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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bill Malani filling in for Benjamin all Right as the
Broncos get set to face the New Orleans Saints on
Thursday night. And I'm here in studio with Nick Ferguson. Nick,
how you doing, man, I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Doing back in the field. How much is help?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm doing great. It's good to be in here talking Broncos.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And I'm also joined by the main man, Steve, mister Hoff.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Steve Batwater.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
You didn't give yourself the proper introduction.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You know, when you're around Steve, you gotta call him
mister Hoff. He makes everybody do that. Yeah, everything changed
once he got that gold jacket.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
He wasn't the same Steve anymore.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You know how change You're You're like, don't talk to me,
And I was like, what I thought? We're afraid You're like,
call me mister Hoff. Kiss the ring, kiss the rings.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Stop doing. Just get it, just get it. Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
We got a lot to talk about today, guys. The
Broncos trying to bounce back from a tough home loss
against the Chargers last Sunday, and they're facing a Saints
team that's really banged up. I mean, they got a
lot of injuries. We found out today. Hey, PS two
is not going to be playing for the Broncos. So
this is a big game for the Broncos to try
and get right here. And you know what, let's just
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start by talking about playing Thursday. Steve, what'd you think about?
You know, did you ever have to play on a
Thursday in your career?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
No, that was too far back. You don't even remember.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Well, you played on thanks Kimming maybe right Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, how was that a couple of times? Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
It was all right, except for we played against the
Detroit Lions and Barry Sanders and I missed him twice.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
In one play. Embarrassing. I've seen Barry Sanders film. It
was a lot of guys that missed it. Some guys
missed him like four times. So twice on the same plan.
You whiffed him. Then you got back up and chasing
chased him a game across the field and I.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Just remember me running over the chase and I adjusted
my face mask for some reason.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I remember that in the middle of the Yeah, and
then he again and I'm like on the ground.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Like, oh man, this guy. Forget about it. But that
was that was Barry. There's a famous play I saw
when Barry was playing the Chicago Bears, and I think
all you loving other Bears offenders might have missed him twice.
So the course, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
It's just you know, that's one of my Thanksgiving memories.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
What about you? Did you play on Thursday? Yes, man,
I happen to play on Thanksgiving and I played on
like New Year's Eve. It was the body right for
the did you were you able to Thursday night football?
I hated it because it threw off my routine. If
I got banged up that Sunday, I didn't have enough
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time to get my body prepared for what I needed
to do from a physicality standpoint, because that was kind
of my staple.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
But after so many games anyway, your body is never
back to like it was when you walk through the training.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
No, it's not, but that's why the emphasis is even more.
Like I'm playing on a Thursday. My body hasn't truly here.
And you know, some of my teammates would try to
sell it as well. You know what, man, it's almost
like another boy. Yeah, they get the weekend. That sounds great.
After you played the game, Yeah, try to get into
that game with maybe a next issue, right, just issue.
(03:32):
Yeah yeah, yeah, and then come home like me talking
about well it's gonna be like an extra buy afterwards.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
No, yeah, well it hurt the bronctice this week because like, hey,
maybe Pat, if it's a Sunday game, maybe he's got
through a concussion protocol, but because the game's Thursday, he
can't get through it, you know, in time to play
in the game.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So you know, A crazy thing about it I think
about that is like.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Back in the day when we played, guess what we
would have been back in the game there was yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
There was no protocol.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, I don't have great the information wasn't out there.
I didn't know what they were doing that was happening.
But man, that's it blows my mind out. Hey, that
can happen now and they don't come out to see
him over there?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
How many hand things I got up? Yeah, but Steve did.
That was the customary test of trying to see if
you had a concussion. Yeah, every time, no matter where
it was, how many things do I have up? It
was all that was the only time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so you knew that the yeah yeah, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And you're when you guys played, you didn't want to
come out of the game for concussion, right, Like you're like,
I got to get back in there.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
No, but knowing what I know, now, yeah, I would
have liked to have known, so hey, I wouldn't be
so forgetful now, well I just forgetful.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's good that you know. PS Two, that
happened the first play of the game, you know, and
you're like, oh man, yeah, but you know you got
to be safe. You know, he's got a bright future obviously,
so you know, you don't want to risk anything just
for this for two weeks, you know, you know what To.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Be totally honest. This is even if the Broncos game
were at home on Sunday, or even if it was
on the road, I still don't think he plays in
that game. And the reason I say that is the
magnitude and the sheer volume. Like if you go back
and listen to listen to it on television, you will
hear how loud it was. Because at first I thought
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it was his shoulder. Yeah I did too, because it
got paid underneath, right, and then I saw him roll over.
The first thing he did was he took both his
hands and put him on his head, you know, when
he was walking off the field. Yeah. Yeah, so I've
been in that situation before, and you don't really get
over those things as quickly as you would like.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Right, It's almost worse when your head hits the ground, right,
because you're like whipped and then you hit the and
then you hit the ground. That's sometimes even worse than
if you collide with somebody, right.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I think so, I think, so you're at the ground
can be just as dangerous as you clide into somebody.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, I'm saying it's probably more dangerous, right, because the.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Body's move some but the ground is not going, it's
not moving.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah. Here's the other thing too. Our brains are kind
of free floating in our skulls, in our nerves. But
for me, it's it's a bam, bam. You get it
twice because once again, this is why I play defense.
But it's better to be the hammer than the nail.
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So if I'm hitting someone, they take the brunt of
that blow so their head is always already moving like
a car accident sometimes. But then if it's a good
one of those bang bang plays, I get you with
the first bang, second bang, your head hits the ground,
so you get it twice, so for PSU. Luckily for him,
he just got that one time and it was a
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hard impact.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, so hopefully, you know, with this little mini by
after this, he can get back out there and get
going with the Bronco. But hey, the Saints are also
banged up here. You know, Derek Carr probably not gonna
play in this one, Chris Olave, Rashid Shaheed out, Taysom Hill,
you know, so they're gonna be without without a lot
of their guys. So this is gonna be sort of
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an interesting match up here without a lot of the starters.
But you know, I think it's big though for the
Broncos coming after that Chargers game, especially on the offensive side.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Of the ball. They need to bounce back this week. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Uh, they need to bounce back and get that confidence
back that they had. But I also think that, uh,
not having our starting center or played a played a
big big part of that. Although the who's that that
backed him up?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Was it? What? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did okay.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
But he just uh he just wasn't as thirty in
there as I like to see. But I thought Matt
Pert did okay and that the right tackle was this. Yeah,
he did a nice job subbing in for.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
For my mcglitche yep.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
So yeah, right right, because yeah, that's that's right.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
They had two two injuries. The yeah, yeah we've been
we were making never been two.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
So I mean, hey, if we if we take a
win with them banged up, we'll take it.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, yeah, but take it.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I mean like we were talking here before we hopped
on the air just about a halftime, like, hey, you
were looking at those stats, Nick, You're like, I can't
believe that this is what happened in a half of football.
You know, they they turn it on there in the
fourth quarter. Now it's a chance for them to come
back against the Saint the Saint team and be like
all right, we got to get back on track here.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, yeah, that's gonna be the idea. And for me,
last week, I felt as though the Broncos were going
to be the charges because they had two key parts
of their defense out. Joey Bosab was out with the
hip and the Santi Samuel was out. He was an
IR for like four weeks. So I was like, Okay,
well the Broncos will be able to take advantage of it,
because you don't have the extra pressure coming off the edge,
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and the company is not going to be that great
in the back end. But justin Herbert was able to
go twenty one to thirty four, one touchdown, but twenty
and thirty seven yards. Now, the great thing about it
is that the Broncos defense stepped it up in the
second half because they only gave up three points. That
was it. And that's something that's what has become a
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trend for Vance Joseph defense as the Broncos kind of
went on that three game winn the streak, but you
know it fell apart.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
So you thought that the defense, Okay, hey, they gave
up some stuff after PS two went out, made some
corrections there, tightened up for the offense. They didn't do
their part to keep the Broncos in the game long enough.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
No, and then when you look at what the Chargers
were able to do, the Chargers took a page of
the Raiders book. The week before, the Raiders rushed for
one hundred and fifteen yards. So the Chargers said, well,
we might not be able to throw the ball down
the field, but we are able to run on the
Broncos defense. They rushed for one hundred and twenty eight.
They're running team too, and ninety six of those yards
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came from JK. Dobb himself. Yeah. So as we move
into Thursday, even though the Saints don't really have the
veteran wide receivers, they playing with a bunch of young
wide receivers. Don't have a Kamar Jamal Williams, who's a
very physical bag if you remember him from his days
in Detroit, and they have Alvin Kamara. He is to me,
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he's what darrens bros. Was to me when I played
a nightmare in the screen game. He's a nightmare. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I mean he has those games where he you know,
he puts up four touchdowns, you know, like once he
gets rolling, it's really hard to bring him down and
contain him.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, why do you think that is?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
What is it about some of those guys when they
get on the outside there in the screen game in particular,
they're just a nightmare?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (10:43):
I think a lot of it depends on the offense
is timing, and if the offensive lineman get out there
in time, it right where they can block the guys properly.
If your timing is off, those players aren't going to work.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
But if your.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Timing is down, and so did you get out and
get that ball out there? The linemen are coming and
they get that block, that first block on the cornerback
or the safety or linebacker whoever is there first.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You got, you got a chance. But if you if
you're off by a second, is over.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, and then he starts picking up speed and then
it's just over. I mean, I mean, you're not gonna
It's hard to tackle a guy out there in.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
The middle of nowhere, and you gotta you know, what.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Makes those plays extremely explosive and dangerous is when you
have a guy like Delil mcgloughlin out there, or have
a Kamara, one of those guys who have the speed
to take at the.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Distance and make make guys miss. Now, if you.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Get big clunky backs out there, it's not as it's.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Not as third n Yeah, I thought I was gonna
be a big part of this Broncos offense, you know,
because that's like what Sean likes to do. I mean,
that's why Alvin Kamara had so much success there.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That's what Sean likes to do. Yeah. And also you
have to have those linemen who are able to get
out there. Yeah, Yeah, right and kind of set up
that screen and the biggest thing for me, you know,
my time playing it with the Broncos, and I'll go
back to Corey Dillon. Corey Dillon kind of set the
trend because the Broncos before I arrived here, they gave
up I believe maybe charge to twenty eight yards Corey Dillon.
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So the idea was that we had to be better
against the run. And the way you do that is
that's a team effort, that's just not a single individual.
And when you think about the screen pass, where are
they throwing the ball, They're throwing it where you have
mathematically the least amount of defenders outside. So that means
is though, if pursuit angles are wrong and one guy
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goes instead of running over the top where he's supposed to,
and he try to go back, goes back door, it's
gone because the screen is trying it's not trying to
hit back inside, it's trying to stay outside. And you
see countless times teams are successful in the screen game
because guys are not staying with their responsibility because really quickly,
when you're playing against a team that runs the screen,
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Steve was talking about it, you need your corner. To
set the edge, you need a guy who's right on
the point. So if anything, you want to force that
runner back inside, that's where you have more proc guys. Yeah,
but guys, I don't see. It bugs me because the
receiver of running or the lineman come to block a
guy instead of taking it on, sacrificing yourself for the
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betterment of the team. You know what he does, He
saves himself and he moves to the side. He moves
to the side, and the guy goes, oh, thank you
and go straight. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Man.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, the Broncos they're gonna have to adjust without PS two.
I mean, no doubt about it. This guy was, Hey,
you go out match up with the number one wide receiver,
We're gonna leave you on a highland. And then that
allows the rest of the defense to do different things,
you know. I mean, the Broncos have been a blitz
heavy team so far through the first six weeks here,
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mostly because hey, you can afford to.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Do that with PS two out. Now without him, what
are they gonna do?
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Yeah, I mean yeah, when you got corners, you gotta
have two of them too, two corners that can play
man the man and you feel confident, Oh you can,
you can bring the house and you know, you say
he's got to be good cover guys too. But uh,
with PS two down, next ran up and I think
we attempted that some last week, but the run game
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just was getting the best of us. And you know,
once you got the run game going, everything's gonna work.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
But you can't just beat Next Man up. You can't
be like, Okay, go out and do what PS two
is doing, right. I mean, you're gonna have to make.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Played really well.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
I guess taking over the role that passer Tayn had
and I think it was Levi Wallace that came in
for him and leave I did a nice job. But
the run game just got the most of us. I
think this last week. Once they started running that ball
not getting tackled for three four yards pass the line
of scrimmage, that's over. It's over once they get that
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run game going. Hey, even mentally, I know when I played,
when I when teams a running.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
The moral the moralize, yeah yeah, and it affects every
other part of your game, it doesn't. It takes you
out of a rhythm from a defensive coordinator standpoint, like
you talk about vance Joseph coming into even the Raiders game.
The Broncos were one of the top teams, if not
the top team when it came to pressure rate and
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running a lot of cover one. Where as a team
is running a ball on you, you can't really do that
because your corners and your safeties are playing man and
man coverage. You only got two guys. Well, you have
a couple of guys inside the box who can now
play the run, and advantage goes to the offense. So
that's why it's videolin is going to be really important
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for the Broncos on Thursday night to shut down any
existence use of the two running backs Jamal Williams and
Alba Kamara.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
How much of it is, Hey, now we got a
week to get ready for this, or I guess for
the short week, but hey, we got a few days
of practice to kind of get gig organized here compared
to Hey, we had a game plan against the Chargers
very first played a game. Your star goes out. Now
they have a little bit of time to just adjust, right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Think mentally they they know and and the guys who
are backing up and know they're going to be playing
they know that now versus kind of being thrust into
the situation. I know back when I played, and I
hope this isn't the case. Hey, sometimes guys, when you
throw in they weren't ready.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
They weren't ready.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
They really hadn't been paying attention in practice. And I'm
sure Van Josel has the guys to where everybody's.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
On the same page. But uh, that's just my thought.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
But that's what I remembered, Like, man, we don't want
him in the game because he doesn't really know his stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yep, Yeah, you got to be ready to go.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Yeah, and exactly said, I'm pretty sure all our guys
are gonna be ready to.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Go, and that's that's key.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
And they look like they were ready to play last
week when when they stepped in.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
The effort was there. Effort was there.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
But it's just that run game got the best of us.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well, I'm just gonna start it here on Broncos Country tonight.
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That's next on Broncos Country tonight. So Malani filling in
for Benjamin alright here in studio with Nick Ferguson and
mister Hoff Steve Atwater. This is a big one coming
up tomorrow night. Broncos heading out to New Orleans where
Sean Payton spent fifteen years, won a Super Bowl there
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with the New Orleans Saints, and now he's back. Steve,
you think he's gonna be welcomed with open arms there.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Yeah, I think so, because you know, when he left,
I don't think they really wanted him to leave.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
You know, he had kind of been the bid rock
of that team for so many years, took him to
the Super Bowl, a lot of playoff games, and they
still have a tremendous amount of respect for him. So
I think they're definitely going to give him a warm reception.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
What do you think, Nick, Yeah, I mean when the
coach has been there fifteen years, of.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Course, I mean, yeah, thank you for what you've done.
Because let's me be toellal me honest. Without Sean Payton
being in the building with Drew Brees, and obviously wasn't
just those two men. There was a whole bunch of
other people who helped the team win and get to
that particular point. But yeah, you're going to kind of
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celebrate those guys in that moment. And I just wonder
if it was more strategic because the Broncos were playing
the Saints on Thursday night that they elected from an
organization standpoint, that being a game to put Drew Brees
in the Ring of Fame most definitely. I mean, everything
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is strategic.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
High on Thursday night there. I think that you guys
are thinking about this too rationally. I think that there's
a lot of emotion in play here because Sean was
the guy there, you know what I mean, and he
helped him win so many games. I mean, how many
times do they win thirteen games there? I mean, they
were always one of the top seeds in the in
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the NFC there.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
And I'm sure they want him to remember all of that,
and they want him to get emotional and uh want
to get him throw him off of his game. But
Sean is more than that though, man, I know, Sir
Sean is a smart man.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
And I know that, but well, I'm saying though, is
like you even said, Steve, they didn't want him to leave,
right and he said, look, I need a break, I
need I need to look recharge my batteries here.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But it was just one year in boom.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Now he pops back up with another team in the NFL.
I think that you feel like, wha wait a second.
I thought you needed to retire here. I thought you
were you know, you were going to be out for
a little while here. Now all of a sudden, you're
back here with the Broncos in your face, your face
is the Saints, Like wait, who you know?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Like it's like dating a girl and she say that,
you know what, we need to break and then you
take a break and the next thing you know, you
you're out with the fellas and then you see her
out with another dude, Like I think said we need
to take a break. Now you're in a different relationship. Yeah,
Or she's like, I'm not saying that, Steve, I'm happens
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to me, but I'm just saying that it could be.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Or she's like, hey, I need to focus on my career.
I'm not ready to have a relationship right now. And
then boom, like you said another guy. So I think
that you can feel a little firmed here.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Why Steve Man, why do I get so personal with
this man? I mean, why take it back to well?
Because that's exactly what it is. It's a relationshis personal Yes,
you've been in a relationship for fifteen years. Fifteen Yeah,
I need to take a break. I need a break.
Wait what kind of break you mean you need like
go downstairs break?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Well, hey, all right, look at your break, but you're
coming back.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
They had that, they had.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Now, look it's different, like, hey, when Peyton Manning went
back to Indy, you know that was a really emotional situation,
but Indy told him, hey, we don't want you here anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So it's like it's a little bit different. I didn't
really say that it was because of his neck injury.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Yeah, but they said, hey man, thank you, thank.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
You for your time, thank you. We're going to We're
going with Andrew Lucky.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You know how this works.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
It's emotional, Steve, Yes, yeah, it's personal. Person But but
this is different because Sean was like I'm out and
then boom, now all of a sudden, he's back. I
think that if you're a Saints fan, certainly the fan.
You're like, we got to win this game.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
We got.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
The Saints game well compensated. Yes, at first round pick.
They get money as well, but.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
They paid. The organization was well conpensated.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Not not the fans and put on that bron They're like,
that feels funny. You know that doesn't look Yeah, you
know this.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Is I can imagine what my ex with another dude, right,
I can imagine that man and just being like, you
know what, yeah, yeah you.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Be by yourself?
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Yeah yeah, yes, yeah, yes, of course I don't know
what guy, what gal out there?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Uh if someone breaks up with them that they're like, hey,
you know, on the surface, you want you to be Yes.
On the surface, you may say that, but really you
don't mean that. Yeah. Yeah, you guys didn't get along.
It's better off you guys.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Go see if you're saying you think Saints fans are like, hey, Seawan,
I hope that you win Super Bowls with the Broncos.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
No, obviously, the true Saints fans they're going to be
still route for their team, the Saints. But they go say, hey, hey,
we understand, you know, everything doesn't last forever, and we
wish you the best of luck, not this game, but
you know, overall, what's the best hub up.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
It's just an interesting situation because almost every other time
that somebody has to leave the organization, it's not because
they wanted to, right, you know what I mean, And
so this is just sort of an interesting situation that
it was his choice to leave, then he took a
year off, missed football, got back into the game.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Is not out of the ordinary, though.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
To go for that long and hey man, I need
a break for No.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Of course not that's that's totally normal. I mean, I
think that fifteen years, the way that these coaches they grind,
they put in these hours, it's normal. But I think
that coming back so quickly that's the part.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Two years would have been better, or let.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Your contract run out and then hey, then come out
or whatever something like that.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes, just like I know, I had a buddy who
was engaged to this young lady and she broke it off.
So he asked for her his ring back and she
said no, what yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
No, and then she fussed down the toilet.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Oh you could sue for that, I think, Yeah, Phil,
I love if you can sue for that.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I think that there's an understanding what the ring's for. Well, yeah,
it's an understanding, but once it's down on the toilet,
there's no evidence.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Man, you got the receipt Yeah, yeah, you're keeping receipts literally.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
And that is what probably some of the Saints fans
on Thursday night are going to do. They're gonna keep
some of those receipts.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
And I think that what about the players, what about
in that locker room, they're like, man, you left us,
you know, like, hey, guy like Cam Jordan, those guys
who played for Sean.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, they think the word of them. But I don't
think that I don't think that changes though. I really don't.
I think that they they respect that, they respect that, Hey,
he needed a break.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
He's been he did it for a long He was
there before I got there, and he was you know,
he had a nice career there.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
And won Super Bowl. He needed a break. Listen, it's okay.
At the beginning of the season, I distinctively remember Cam
Jordan being on the show with Kay Adams and she
asked him, well, hey, looking at the schedule, you guys
have the Broncos and coach Peyton's coming back. And she
asked him, did you circle that on the calendar? He
was like, damn right, I did so.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Even though now he's saying, yeah, what did you take
that to mean that he's mad?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
No, I just think it to mean that he's looking
forward to that game playing against his former coach. And
I mean, the sport is competitive. You want to go
out and beat your friends, and there's always that that
gaman ship where you know, you want to talk a
little trash after the game if you win. If you
don't win, you're not saying it nothing.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
So I'm sure if but regardless of which way the
game goes, I think after the game, yeah, that's all
you play for him, they're gonna come over and get
a big hug.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Well, of course, of course, but not I mean before, yes,
I've seen yeah, I've done that before. I would say
yes to the coaches. I played it for one particular time.
But obviously you win, you're gonna go across and be cortious.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
You're gonna go across the spective ball in his face.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
No, but but I'm walking across the field showing all
thirty two, like, yeah, what's up, coach, just to let
it know.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
Then it's just like, what's up coach.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
It's yeah, I mean it's and the whole breeze thing.
I mean, I want to get into that a little
bit here because I do think that that the fact
that he's going into the Hall of Fame, the Saints
Hall of Fame, that's a big deal the Saints. The
Saints this week put out a video, uh, you know,
like showing like all this stuff about Drew Brees. No
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shots of Seawan in there, Like there's no no huh,
you know, nothing like that, so you you don't even
see Sean in the video. So like, I think that
there's just a little bit interesting going on here. So
Bronco's heading to New Orleans today to get ready for
a big matchup. How crazy is that that? You know,
two days ago they were playing in the game and
then boom the gin on a plane and now they're
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heading to New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
So that that just really it blows my mind to
know that that the body can recover it can it can?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
It'll have to they may not, but they'll be ready.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
It's hard to being that road team, you know, for
the Thursday night, because you can just h if you're
at the home, you're you know, it's just like a
regular Wednesday, you know so. Uh, But of course this
game all about Sean Payton going back to New Orleans.
Of course he said, Hey, it's not about me. This
is about just the next game on the calendar.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Here.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
We got to just get focused and get ready for
the win. But for everybody else, we can talk about
Sean Payton going back to New Orleans and the fact
that Drew Brees is going into the Hall of Fame,
the Saints Hall of Fame. How big of a deal
is that that? Hey, the player that you know, you're
attached at the hip with the quarterback. You know, everybody,
Drew Brees, Champayne, They're attached. He's gonna be there at
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the game.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
Yeah, and we all know that Sean Payton has a
special place in Drew Brees's heart, And I think you
know Drew Brees has a special place in Sean Payton's
hard They're both fond of one another. For one, Sean, Uh,
I wouldn't say took a chance when he traded, Well
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he was traded from San Diego.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Is that great? No?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I think that they picked him up because Drew was
thinking about going to Miami with seeing there.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Right or what I'm trying to. I think he was
a free agent, right, I'm not. I'm not sure on
that because I know that the Chargers were trying to
trade him to Miami and he felt his physical because
of his shoulder. Oh that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Trade well, yeah, because John Lynch hit him, right, that
was that was from that game.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, I remember watching it happen. Man, I know Jaylens
had something to do with that. Yeah, but that was
a play right there, was trying to dive forward and
kind of extended his arm and he got up. It
just it was just right there.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
So yeah, so I know that they're fond of each other,
and uh, it's going to mean a lot Sean that
he's going in. But Sean is right, he's got it
before he's he can't get caught up in in that.
He's got to have his folks on those first fifteen plays,
those scripted plays, and uh, you know what the game
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plan is going to be, what the field is like,
all those different things the head coaches do. He's got
to do that and get caught up in the emotional
part of Drew Brees going in and him being back
in New Orleans and all the fans still love him
and all that good stuff. Hey, that's great, but we
could do that after the game.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, Drew Brees was a free agent when he signed there. Okay,
so not traded. I thought I thought that I was right.
I usually am. You know.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
He sounded like, I just kid, No, no, no, no, yeah,
I'm just playing.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I'm just getting around. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
But you know, I remember, like when Peyton went back
to Indy, they played this big tribute video for him
on the jumbo Tron before the game.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It was emotional. How do you block that? Do you
see him cry?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I mean I don't know if he was crying, but
I mean it was touching to him. I mean it
was like it was like a big deal. You know,
it was a big deal and that offense was wrong.
That was twenty thirteen. It was coming. You know, the
Broncos were undefeated. They ended up using that game, you know,
And now it's probably different for the player versus the coach, right,
I mean you don't think so you think they get
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as animated.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I mean yeah, I mean, you want to win the game.
He spent fifteen years in one place. You want to
go back and have your best showing and once again,
even though it was on the show week the Broncos
is loss a game they should have won on Sunday
at home. So you want to make sure you go
in and you you want to show him right, you
want to show that that ex that guess what.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yeah, look at me now, I gotta.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yes, exactly, Oh, I guess does that put pressure on
bow this week?
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Then?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Like, hey, I gotta do this for coach? I don't
think so? Nah, I think I think.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
I'm sure Coach Peyton has told him, don't don't worry
about that, don't worry about that, focus on the game plan,
one player at a time. But he's not a robot.
Nobody's a robot. But I think that he'll be able
to separate the two. I think because he's been he's been,
I've been great at you know, getting home in on
what he needs to get hunt.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I mean, you got to just treat it like a
regular game, you know. But for Sean it's different. I
think too.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, Okay, see see that's what your mouth say. Yeah,
we gotta like a regular game. Yeah, but you can't
do it. No, you can't. It's not a regular game.
It's not it's not Steve, thank you so much for
hanging out with us this first hour. Man.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Man, it's it's it's an honor man always with you.
But seeing my guy Field Maloney man a while, man
made my day.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah. I mean we used to chop it up all
the time. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
It feels like just like riding a bike, you know,
like I'm just back doing what I do.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
That's what you do, man, You're great at it.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
It's great. Thank you very much, Steve. We're gonna trade
Steve here. We're gonna go into an enemy territory and
talk with Matthew Parris from the Times.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Pick a un that's how you say it.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Who's from Louisiana here the Times pick a UNI and
the Advocate that's coming up after the break. Stick with
us here on Broncos Country tonight
Bill Malani filling in for Benjamin all Right as the
Broncos get set to face the New Orleans Saints on
Thursday night. And I'm here in studio with Nick Ferguson. Nick,
how you doing, man, I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Doing back in the field. How much is help?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm doing great. It's good to be in here talking Broncos.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And I'm also joined by the main man, Steve, mister Hoff.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Steve Batwater.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
You didn't give yourself the proper introduction.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You know, when you're around Steve, you gotta call him
mister Hoff. He makes everybody do that. Yeah, everything changed
once he got that gold jacket.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
He wasn't the same Steve anymore.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You know how change You're You're like, don't talk to me,
And I was like, what I thought? We're afraid You're like,
call me mister Hoff. Kiss the ring, kiss the rings.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Stop doing. Just get it, just get it. Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
We got a lot to talk about today, guys. The
Broncos trying to bounce back from a tough home loss
against the Chargers last Sunday, and they're facing a Saints
team that's really banged up. I mean, they got a
lot of injuries. We found out today. Hey, PS two
is not going to be playing for the Broncos. So
this is a big game for the Broncos to try
and get right here. And you know what, let's just
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start by talking about playing Thursday. Steve, what'd you think about?
You know, did you ever have to play on a
Thursday in your career?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
No, that was too far back. You don't even remember.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Well, you played on thanks Kimming maybe right Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, how was that a couple of times? Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
It was all right, except for we played against the
Detroit Lions and Barry Sanders and I missed him twice.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
In one play. Embarrassing. I've seen Barry Sanders film. It
was a lot of guys that missed it. Some guys
missed him like four times. So twice on the same plan.
You whiffed him. Then you got back up and chasing
chased him a game across the field and I.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Just remember me running over the chase and I adjusted
my face mask for some reason.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I remember that in the middle of the Yeah, and
then he again and I'm like on the ground.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Like, oh man, this guy. Forget about it. But that
was that was Barry. There's a famous play I saw
when Barry was playing the Chicago Bears, and I think
all you loving other Bears offenders might have missed him twice.
So the course, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
It's just you know, that's one of my Thanksgiving memories.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
What about you? Did you play on Thursday? Yes, man,
I happen to play on Thanksgiving and I played on
like New Year's Eve. It was the body right for
the did you were you able to Thursday night football?
I hated it because it threw off my routine. If
I got banged up that Sunday, I didn't have enough
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time to get my body prepared for what I needed
to do from a physicality standpoint, because that was kind
of my staple.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
But after so many games anyway, your body is never
back to like it was when you walk through the training.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
No, it's not, but that's why the emphasis is even more.
Like I'm playing on a Thursday. My body hasn't truly here.
And you know, some of my teammates would try to
sell it as well. You know what, man, it's almost
like another boy. Yeah, they get the weekend. That sounds great.
After you played the game, Yeah, try to get into
that game with maybe a next issue, right, just issue.
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Yeah yeah, yeah, and then come home like me talking
about well it's gonna be like an extra buy afterwards.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
No, yeah, well it hurt the bronctice this week because like, hey,
maybe Pat, if it's a Sunday game, maybe he's got
through a concussion protocol, but because the game's Thursday, he
can't get through it, you know, in time to play
in the game.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So you know, A crazy thing about it I think
about that is like.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Back in the day when we played, guess what we
would have been back in the game there was yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
There was no protocol.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, I don't have great the information wasn't out there.
I didn't know what they were doing that was happening.
But man, that's it blows my mind out. Hey, that
can happen now and they don't come out to see
him over there?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
How many hand things I got up? Yeah, but Steve did.
That was the customary test of trying to see if
you had a concussion. Yeah, every time, no matter where
it was, how many things do I have up? It
was all that was the only time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so you knew that the yeah yeah, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And you're when you guys played, you didn't want to
come out of the game for concussion, right, Like you're like,
I got to get back in there.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
No, but knowing what I know, now, yeah, I would
have liked to have known, so hey, I wouldn't be
so forgetful now, well I just forgetful.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's good that you know. PS Two, that
happened the first play of the game, you know, and
you're like, oh man, yeah, but you know you got
to be safe. You know, he's got a bright future obviously,
so you know, you don't want to risk anything just
for this for two weeks, you know, you know what To.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Be totally honest. This is even if the Broncos game
were at home on Sunday, or even if it was
on the road, I still don't think he plays in
that game. And the reason I say that is the
magnitude and the sheer volume. Like if you go back
and listen to listen to it on television, you will
hear how loud it was. Because at first I thought
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it was his shoulder. Yeah I did too, because it
got paid underneath, right, and then I saw him roll over.
The first thing he did was he took both his
hands and put him on his head, you know, when
he was walking off the field. Yeah. Yeah, so I've
been in that situation before, and you don't really get
over those things as quickly as you would like.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Right, It's almost worse when your head hits the ground, right,
because you're like whipped and then you hit the and
then you hit the ground. That's sometimes even worse than
if you collide with somebody, right.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I think so, I think, so you're at the ground
can be just as dangerous as you clide into somebody.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, I'm saying it's probably more dangerous, right, because the.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Body's move some but the ground is not going, it's
not moving.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah. Here's the other thing too. Our brains are kind
of free floating in our skulls, in our nerves. But
for me, it's it's a bam, bam. You get it
twice because once again, this is why I play defense.
But it's better to be the hammer than the nail.
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So if I'm hitting someone, they take the brunt of
that blow so their head is always already moving like
a car accident sometimes. But then if it's a good
one of those bang bang plays, I get you with
the first bang, second bang, your head hits the ground,
so you get it twice, so for PSU. Luckily for him,
he just got that one time and it was a
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hard impact.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, so hopefully, you know, with this little mini by
after this, he can get back out there and get
going with the Bronco. But hey, the Saints are also
banged up here. You know, Derek Carr probably not gonna
play in this one, Chris Olave, Rashid Shaheed out, Taysom Hill,
you know, so they're gonna be without without a lot
of their guys. So this is gonna be sort of
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an interesting match up here without a lot of the starters.
But you know, I think it's big though for the
Broncos coming after that Chargers game, especially on the offensive side.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Of the ball. They need to bounce back this week. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Uh, they need to bounce back and get that confidence
back that they had. But I also think that, uh,
not having our starting center or played a played a
big big part of that. Although the who's that that
backed him up?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Was it? What? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did okay.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
But he just uh he just wasn't as thirty in
there as I like to see. But I thought Matt
Pert did okay and that the right tackle was this. Yeah,
he did a nice job subbing in for.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
For my mcglitche yep.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
So yeah, right right, because yeah, that's that's right.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
They had two two injuries. The yeah, yeah we've been
we were making never been two.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
So I mean, hey, if we if we take a
win with them banged up, we'll take it.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, yeah, but take it.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I mean like we were talking here before we hopped
on the air just about a halftime, like, hey, you
were looking at those stats, Nick, You're like, I can't
believe that this is what happened in a half of football.
You know, they they turn it on there in the
fourth quarter. Now it's a chance for them to come
back against the Saint the Saint team and be like
all right, we got to get back on track here.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, yeah, that's gonna be the idea. And for me,
last week, I felt as though the Broncos were going
to be the charges because they had two key parts
of their defense out. Joey Bosab was out with the
hip and the Santi Samuel was out. He was an
IR for like four weeks. So I was like, Okay,
well the Broncos will be able to take advantage of it,
because you don't have the extra pressure coming off the edge,
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and the company is not going to be that great
in the back end. But justin Herbert was able to
go twenty one to thirty four, one touchdown, but twenty
and thirty seven yards. Now, the great thing about it
is that the Broncos defense stepped it up in the
second half because they only gave up three points. That
was it. And that's something that's what has become a
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trend for Vance Joseph defense as the Broncos kind of
went on that three game winn the streak, but you
know it fell apart.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
So you thought that the defense, Okay, hey, they gave
up some stuff after PS two went out, made some
corrections there, tightened up for the offense. They didn't do
their part to keep the Broncos in the game long enough.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
No, and then when you look at what the Chargers
were able to do, the Chargers took a page of
the Raiders book. The week before, the Raiders rushed for
one hundred and fifteen yards. So the Chargers said, well,
we might not be able to throw the ball down
the field, but we are able to run on the
Broncos defense. They rushed for one hundred and twenty eight.
They're running team too, and ninety six of those yards
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came from JK. Dobb himself. Yeah. So as we move
into Thursday, even though the Saints don't really have the
veteran wide receivers, they playing with a bunch of young
wide receivers. Don't have a Kamar Jamal Williams, who's a
very physical bag if you remember him from his days
in Detroit, and they have Alvin Kamara. He is to me,
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he's what darrens bros. Was to me when I played
a nightmare in the screen game. He's a nightmare. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I mean he has those games where he you know,
he puts up four touchdowns, you know, like once he
gets rolling, it's really hard to bring him down and
contain him.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, why do you think that is?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
What is it about some of those guys when they
get on the outside there in the screen game in particular,
they're just a nightmare?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (10:43):
I think a lot of it depends on the offense
is timing, and if the offensive lineman get out there
in time, it right where they can block the guys properly.
If your timing is off, those players aren't going to work.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
But if your.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Timing is down, and so did you get out and
get that ball out there? The linemen are coming and
they get that block, that first block on the cornerback
or the safety or linebacker whoever is there first.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You got, you got a chance. But if you if
you're off by a second, is over.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, and then he starts picking up speed and then
it's just over. I mean, I mean, you're not gonna
It's hard to tackle a guy out there in.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
The middle of nowhere, and you gotta you know, what.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Makes those plays extremely explosive and dangerous is when you
have a guy like Delil mcgloughlin out there, or have
a Kamara, one of those guys who have the speed
to take at the.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Distance and make make guys miss. Now, if you.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Get big clunky backs out there, it's not as it's.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Not as third n Yeah, I thought I was gonna
be a big part of this Broncos offense, you know,
because that's like what Sean likes to do. I mean,
that's why Alvin Kamara had so much success there.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That's what Sean likes to do. Yeah. And also you
have to have those linemen who are able to get
out there. Yeah, Yeah, right and kind of set up
that screen and the biggest thing for me, you know,
my time playing it with the Broncos, and I'll go
back to Corey Dillon. Corey Dillon kind of set the
trend because the Broncos before I arrived here, they gave
up I believe maybe charge to twenty eight yards Corey Dillon.
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So the idea was that we had to be better
against the run. And the way you do that is
that's a team effort, that's just not a single individual.
And when you think about the screen pass, where are
they throwing the ball, They're throwing it where you have
mathematically the least amount of defenders outside. So that means
is though, if pursuit angles are wrong and one guy
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goes instead of running over the top where he's supposed to,
and he try to go back, goes back door, it's
gone because the screen is trying it's not trying to
hit back inside, it's trying to stay outside. And you
see countless times teams are successful in the screen game
because guys are not staying with their responsibility because really quickly,
when you're playing against a team that runs the screen,
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Steve was talking about it, you need your corner. To
set the edge, you need a guy who's right on
the point. So if anything, you want to force that
runner back inside, that's where you have more proc guys. Yeah,
but guys, I don't see. It bugs me because the
receiver of running or the lineman come to block a
guy instead of taking it on, sacrificing yourself for the
(13:16):
betterment of the team. You know what he does, He
saves himself and he moves to the side. He moves
to the side, and the guy goes, oh, thank you
and go straight. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Man.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, the Broncos they're gonna have to adjust without PS two.
I mean, no doubt about it. This guy was, Hey,
you go out match up with the number one wide receiver,
We're gonna leave you on a highland. And then that
allows the rest of the defense to do different things,
you know. I mean, the Broncos have been a blitz
heavy team so far through the first six weeks here,
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mostly because hey, you can afford to.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Do that with PS two out. Now without him, what
are they gonna do?
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Yeah, I mean yeah, when you got corners, you gotta
have two of them too, two corners that can play
man the man and you feel confident, Oh you can,
you can bring the house and you know, you say
he's got to be good cover guys too. But uh,
with PS two down, next ran up and I think
we attempted that some last week, but the run game
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just was getting the best of us. And you know,
once you got the run game going, everything's gonna work.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
But you can't just beat Next Man up. You can't
be like, Okay, go out and do what PS two
is doing, right. I mean, you're gonna have to make.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Played really well.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
I guess taking over the role that passer Tayn had
and I think it was Levi Wallace that came in
for him and leave I did a nice job. But
the run game just got the most of us. I
think this last week. Once they started running that ball
not getting tackled for three four yards pass the line
of scrimmage, that's over. It's over once they get that
(14:53):
run game going. Hey, even mentally, I know when I played,
when I when teams a running.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
The moral the moralize, yeah yeah, and it affects every
other part of your game, it doesn't. It takes you
out of a rhythm from a defensive coordinator standpoint, like
you talk about vance Joseph coming into even the Raiders game.
The Broncos were one of the top teams, if not
the top team when it came to pressure rate and
(15:21):
running a lot of cover one. Where as a team
is running a ball on you, you can't really do that
because your corners and your safeties are playing man and
man coverage. You only got two guys. Well, you have
a couple of guys inside the box who can now
play the run, and advantage goes to the offense. So
that's why it's videolin is going to be really important
(15:41):
for the Broncos on Thursday night to shut down any
existence use of the two running backs Jamal Williams and
Alba Kamara.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
How much of it is, Hey, now we got a
week to get ready for this, or I guess for
the short week, but hey, we got a few days
of practice to kind of get gig organized here compared
to Hey, we had a game plan against the Chargers
very first played a game. Your star goes out. Now
they have a little bit of time to just adjust, right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Think mentally they they know and and the guys who
are backing up and know they're going to be playing
they know that now versus kind of being thrust into
the situation. I know back when I played, and I
hope this isn't the case. Hey, sometimes guys, when you
throw in they weren't ready.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
They weren't ready.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
They really hadn't been paying attention in practice. And I'm
sure Van Josel has the guys to where everybody's.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
On the same page. But uh, that's just my thought.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
But that's what I remembered, Like, man, we don't want
him in the game because he doesn't really know his stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yep, Yeah, you got to be ready to go.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Yeah, and exactly said, I'm pretty sure all our guys
are gonna be ready to.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Go, and that's that's key.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
And they look like they were ready to play last
week when when they stepped in.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
The effort was there. Effort was there.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
But it's just that run game got the best of us.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well, I'm just gonna start it here on Broncos Country tonight.
You're listening to Nick ferguson Steve Atwater. I am Phil
Malaney filling in for Benjamin Alright, you want to get
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talk about Sean Payton making his return to New Orleans.
(17:20):
That's next on Broncos Country tonight. So Malani filling in
for Benjamin alright here in studio with Nick Ferguson and
mister Hoff Steve Atwater. This is a big one coming
up tomorrow night. Broncos heading out to New Orleans where
Sean Payton spent fifteen years, won a Super Bowl there
(17:41):
with the New Orleans Saints, and now he's back. Steve,
you think he's gonna be welcomed with open arms there.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Yeah, I think so, because you know, when he left,
I don't think they really wanted him to leave.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
You know, he had kind of been the bid rock
of that team for so many years, took him to
the Super Bowl, a lot of playoff games, and they
still have a tremendous amount of respect for him. So
I think they're definitely going to give him a warm reception.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
What do you think, Nick, Yeah, I mean when the
coach has been there fifteen years, of.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Course, I mean, yeah, thank you for what you've done.
Because let's me be toellal me honest. Without Sean Payton
being in the building with Drew Brees, and obviously wasn't
just those two men. There was a whole bunch of
other people who helped the team win and get to
that particular point. But yeah, you're going to kind of
(18:32):
celebrate those guys in that moment. And I just wonder
if it was more strategic because the Broncos were playing
the Saints on Thursday night that they elected from an
organization standpoint, that being a game to put Drew Brees
in the Ring of Fame most definitely. I mean, everything
(18:53):
is strategic.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
High on Thursday night there. I think that you guys
are thinking about this too rationally. I think that there's
a lot of emotion in play here because Sean was
the guy there, you know what I mean, and he
helped him win so many games. I mean, how many
times do they win thirteen games there? I mean, they
were always one of the top seeds in the in
(19:16):
the NFC there.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
And I'm sure they want him to remember all of that,
and they want him to get emotional and uh want
to get him throw him off of his game. But
Sean is more than that though, man, I know, Sir
Sean is a smart man.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
And I know that, but well, I'm saying though, is
like you even said, Steve, they didn't want him to leave,
right and he said, look, I need a break, I
need I need to look recharge my batteries here.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But it was just one year in boom.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Now he pops back up with another team in the NFL.
I think that you feel like, wha wait a second.
I thought you needed to retire here. I thought you
were you know, you were going to be out for
a little while here. Now all of a sudden, you're
back here with the Broncos in your face, your face
is the Saints, Like wait, who you know?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Like it's like dating a girl and she say that,
you know what, we need to break and then you
take a break and the next thing you know, you
you're out with the fellas and then you see her
out with another dude, Like I think said we need
to take a break. Now you're in a different relationship. Yeah,
Or she's like, I'm not saying that, Steve, I'm happens
(20:22):
to me, but I'm just saying that it could be.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Or she's like, hey, I need to focus on my career.
I'm not ready to have a relationship right now. And
then boom, like you said another guy. So I think
that you can feel a little firmed here.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Why Steve Man, why do I get so personal with
this man? I mean, why take it back to well?
Because that's exactly what it is. It's a relationshis personal Yes,
you've been in a relationship for fifteen years. Fifteen Yeah,
I need to take a break. I need a break.
Wait what kind of break you mean you need like
go downstairs break?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Well, hey, all right, look at your break, but you're
coming back.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
They had that, they had.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Now, look it's different, like, hey, when Peyton Manning went
back to Indy, you know that was a really emotional situation,
but Indy told him, hey, we don't want you here anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So it's like it's a little bit different. I didn't
really say that it was because of his neck injury.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Yeah, but they said, hey man, thank you, thank.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
You for your time, thank you. We're going to We're
going with Andrew Lucky.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You know how this works.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
It's emotional, Steve, Yes, yeah, it's personal. Person But but
this is different because Sean was like I'm out and
then boom, now all of a sudden, he's back. I
think that if you're a Saints fan, certainly the fan.
You're like, we got to win this game.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
We got.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
The Saints game well compensated. Yes, at first round pick.
They get money as well, but.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
They paid. The organization was well conpensated.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Not not the fans and put on that bron They're like,
that feels funny. You know that doesn't look Yeah, you
know this.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Is I can imagine what my ex with another dude, right,
I can imagine that man and just being like, you
know what, yeah, yeah you.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Be by yourself?
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Yeah yeah, yes, yeah, yes, of course I don't know
what guy, what gal out there?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Uh if someone breaks up with them that they're like, hey,
you know, on the surface, you want you to be Yes.
On the surface, you may say that, but really you
don't mean that. Yeah. Yeah, you guys didn't get along.
It's better off you guys.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Go see if you're saying you think Saints fans are like, hey, Seawan,
I hope that you win Super Bowls with the Broncos.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
No, obviously, the true Saints fans they're going to be
still route for their team, the Saints. But they go say, hey, hey,
we understand, you know, everything doesn't last forever, and we
wish you the best of luck, not this game, but
you know, overall, what's the best hub up.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
It's just an interesting situation because almost every other time
that somebody has to leave the organization, it's not because
they wanted to, right, you know what I mean, And
so this is just sort of an interesting situation that
it was his choice to leave, then he took a
year off, missed football, got back into the game.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Is not out of the ordinary, though.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
To go for that long and hey man, I need
a break for No.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Of course not that's that's totally normal. I mean, I
think that fifteen years, the way that these coaches they grind,
they put in these hours, it's normal. But I think
that coming back so quickly that's the part.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Two years would have been better, or let.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Your contract run out and then hey, then come out
or whatever something like that.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes, just like I know, I had a buddy who
was engaged to this young lady and she broke it off.
So he asked for her his ring back and she
said no, what yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
No, and then she fussed down the toilet.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Oh you could sue for that, I think, Yeah, Phil,
I love if you can sue for that.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I think that there's an understanding what the ring's for. Well, yeah,
it's an understanding, but once it's down on the toilet,
there's no evidence.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Man, you got the receipt Yeah, yeah, you're keeping receipts literally.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
And that is what probably some of the Saints fans
on Thursday night are going to do. They're gonna keep
some of those receipts.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
And I think that what about the players, what about
in that locker room, they're like, man, you left us,
you know, like, hey, guy like Cam Jordan, those guys
who played for Sean.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, they think the word of them. But I don't
think that I don't think that changes though. I really don't.
I think that they they respect that, they respect that, Hey,
he needed a break.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
He's been he did it for a long He was
there before I got there, and he was you know,
he had a nice career there.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
And won Super Bowl. He needed a break. Listen, it's okay.
At the beginning of the season, I distinctively remember Cam
Jordan being on the show with Kay Adams and she
asked him, well, hey, looking at the schedule, you guys
have the Broncos and coach Peyton's coming back. And she
asked him, did you circle that on the calendar? He
was like, damn right, I did so.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Even though now he's saying, yeah, what did you take
that to mean that he's mad?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
No, I just think it to mean that he's looking
forward to that game playing against his former coach. And
I mean, the sport is competitive. You want to go
out and beat your friends, and there's always that that
gaman ship where you know, you want to talk a
little trash after the game if you win. If you
don't win, you're not saying it nothing.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
So I'm sure if but regardless of which way the
game goes, I think after the game, yeah, that's all
you play for him, they're gonna come over and get
a big hug.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Well, of course, of course, but not I mean before, yes,
I've seen yeah, I've done that before. I would say
yes to the coaches. I played it for one particular time.
But obviously you win, you're gonna go across and be cortious.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
You're gonna go across the spective ball in his face.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
No, but but I'm walking across the field showing all
thirty two, like, yeah, what's up, coach, just to let
it know.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
Then it's just like, what's up coach.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
It's yeah, I mean it's and the whole breeze thing.
I mean, I want to get into that a little
bit here because I do think that that the fact
that he's going into the Hall of Fame, the Saints
Hall of Fame, that's a big deal the Saints. The
Saints this week put out a video, uh, you know,
like showing like all this stuff about Drew Brees. No
(27:12):
shots of Seawan in there, Like there's no no huh,
you know, nothing like that, so you you don't even
see Sean in the video. So like, I think that
there's just a little bit interesting going on here. So
Bronco's heading to New Orleans today to get ready for
a big matchup. How crazy is that that? You know,
two days ago they were playing in the game and
then boom the gin on a plane and now they're
(27:33):
heading to New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
So that that just really it blows my mind to
know that that the body can recover it can it can?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
It'll have to they may not, but they'll be ready.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
It's hard to being that road team, you know, for
the Thursday night, because you can just h if you're
at the home, you're you know, it's just like a
regular Wednesday, you know so. Uh, But of course this
game all about Sean Payton going back to New Orleans.
Of course he said, Hey, it's not about me. This
is about just the next game on the calendar.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Here.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
We got to just get focused and get ready for
the win. But for everybody else, we can talk about
Sean Payton going back to New Orleans and the fact
that Drew Brees is going into the Hall of Fame,
the Saints Hall of Fame. How big of a deal
is that that? Hey, the player that you know, you're
attached at the hip with the quarterback. You know, everybody,
Drew Brees, Champayne, They're attached. He's gonna be there at
(28:29):
the game.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
Yeah, and we all know that Sean Payton has a
special place in Drew Brees's heart, And I think you
know Drew Brees has a special place in Sean Payton's
hard They're both fond of one another. For one, Sean, Uh,
I wouldn't say took a chance when he traded, Well
(28:50):
he was traded from San Diego.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Is that great? No?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I think that they picked him up because Drew was
thinking about going to Miami with seeing there.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Right or what I'm trying to. I think he was
a free agent, right, I'm not. I'm not sure on
that because I know that the Chargers were trying to
trade him to Miami and he felt his physical because
of his shoulder. Oh that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Trade well, yeah, because John Lynch hit him, right, that
was that was from that game.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, I remember watching it happen. Man, I know Jaylens
had something to do with that. Yeah, but that was
a play right there, was trying to dive forward and
kind of extended his arm and he got up. It
just it was just right there.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
So yeah, so I know that they're fond of each other,
and uh, it's going to mean a lot Sean that
he's going in. But Sean is right, he's got it
before he's he can't get caught up in in that.
He's got to have his folks on those first fifteen plays,
those scripted plays, and uh, you know what the game
(29:53):
plan is going to be, what the field is like,
all those different things the head coaches do. He's got
to do that and get caught up in the emotional
part of Drew Brees going in and him being back
in New Orleans and all the fans still love him
and all that good stuff. Hey, that's great, but we
could do that after the game.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, Drew Brees was a free agent when he signed there. Okay,
so not traded. I thought I thought that I was right.
I usually am. You know.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
He sounded like, I just kid, No, no, no, no, yeah,
I'm just playing.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I'm just getting around. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
But you know, I remember, like when Peyton went back
to Indy, they played this big tribute video for him
on the jumbo Tron before the game.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It was emotional. How do you block that? Do you
see him cry?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I mean I don't know if he was crying, but
I mean it was touching to him. I mean it
was like it was like a big deal. You know,
it was a big deal and that offense was wrong.
That was twenty thirteen. It was coming. You know, the
Broncos were undefeated. They ended up using that game, you know,
And now it's probably different for the player versus the coach, right,
I mean you don't think so you think they get
(31:08):
as animated.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I mean yeah, I mean, you want to win the game.
He spent fifteen years in one place. You want to
go back and have your best showing and once again,
even though it was on the show week the Broncos
is loss a game they should have won on Sunday
at home. So you want to make sure you go
in and you you want to show him right, you
want to show that that ex that guess what.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yeah, look at me now, I gotta.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yes, exactly, Oh, I guess does that put pressure on
bow this week?
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Then?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Like, hey, I gotta do this for coach? I don't
think so? Nah, I think I think.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
I'm sure Coach Peyton has told him, don't don't worry
about that, don't worry about that, focus on the game plan,
one player at a time. But he's not a robot.
Nobody's a robot. But I think that he'll be able
to separate the two. I think because he's been he's been,
I've been great at you know, getting home in on
what he needs to get hunt.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I mean, you got to just treat it like a
regular game, you know. But for Sean it's different. I
think too.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, Okay, see see that's what your mouth say. Yeah,
we gotta like a regular game. Yeah, but you can't
do it. No, you can't. It's not a regular game.
It's not it's not Steve, thank you so much for
hanging out with us this first hour. Man.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Man, it's it's it's an honor man always with you.
But seeing my guy Field Maloney man a while, man
made my day.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah. I mean we used to chop it up all
the time. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
It feels like just like riding a bike, you know,
like I'm just back doing what I do.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
That's what you do, man, You're great at it.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
It's great. Thank you very much, Steve. We're gonna trade
Steve here. We're gonna go into an enemy territory and
talk with Matthew Parris from the Times.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Pick a un that's how you say it.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Who's from Louisiana here the Times pick a UNI and
the Advocate that's coming up after the break. Stick with
us here on Broncos Country tonight
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