10-23-25 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight with Grant Smith and Rick Lewis

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Interesting comments from the Broncos coordinators.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Get to that in just a second.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
But the big story of the day and Ben being
a guest on your own show probably feel very pretty
weird weird.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
But the big story of the day.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
You know, Colorado legend, NBA Hall of Famer Chauncey Billups
arrested and no one's more tied in than you. So
I thought you could stick around for just a couple
of minutes and give us.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
All the details on the story we need to know.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, yeah, right now is the Stans curt Former NBA
players and coaches Chauncey Billups, Terry Rozier, Damon Jones have
all been arrested. There was an illegal gambling and sports
ringing operation that spanned years across eleven states, and total,
thirty individuals have been arrested, thirteen of which are alleged
to be LA Coos and Ostromafia members, charges including illegal gambling,
wire fraud, and extortion. There are two separate indictments. The

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first involved six defendants accused of participating in a sports
corruption scheme that exploited insider information involving NBA players and teams.
The defendants leverage their connections to place prop bets based
on confidence insider information, winning tens of thousands of dollars
per bet. The second indictment involves thirty one defendants charged
with participating in a nationwide scheme to reag illegal parker games.

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The FBI says they used high tech cheating technology, including
X ray tables, invisible ink and glasses, and hidden cameras
on chip trays to steal millions of dollars from victims
in underground poker games that.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Were secretly fixed.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
The two cases are separate, but there are three overlapping defendants,
including former NBA player and coach Damon Jones, who's named,
and Chauncey Billiffs, who is not named, but his co
conspirator number eight. In the second one, the FBI says
NBA player Terry Rozier told defendants he was going to
leave a game early on March twenty third, twenty twenty three,
with an injury. The defendants then placed more than two

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hundred thousand dollars in wagers on the unders for his
prop bets, with Rogier leaving the game after nine minutes.
Those bets paid out tens of thousands of dollars in profits,
and the defendants, and Rogier counted the money at his house,
which he is on tape and text message doing. The
FBI says that former Raptors player John Tay Porter, the
younger brother of Michael Porter Junior, was threatened to participate

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in the sports gambling scheme because of his debts.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
His gambling debts that he already owed money to.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Teams were bet on during the sports gambling scheme include
the Charlotte Hornets, Portland Trailblazers, Lakers, and Raptors. The rigged
poker games occurred in the Hamptons, Miami, Las Vegas, and Manhattan.
The poker scheme targeted victims who were lured to participate
in rigged games by the chance to play alongside former
professional athletes. These athletes included Chauncey Phillips and Damon Jones.

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The FBI says that the defendants utilized altered shuffling machines
to read the cards to the deck and then relay
the information to an off side operator known as the quarterback,
who then sent the information back to whomever was at
the table. The FBI says the defense also utilized other
cheating technologies, including poker chip trays, that read cards through
hidden cameras, special contact lenses and glasses that could read

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marked cards, and X ray poker tables that could read
the cards face down. I says the defendanse robbed a
victim at gunpoint to acquire a rigged shuffling machine. Sports
gambling investigation is called Operation Nothing but Net. The poker
investigation is called Operation Royal Flush. The FBI has been
working on these investigations for over four years, with victims

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losing at least seven million dollars. One specific victim the
largest lost one point eight million. The FBI viewed thousands
of hours of video evidence and executed more than two
dozen search warrants. And those are just the accusations at
this point from the FBI investigation. There are other celebrities
alleged to be caught up in this as well, bigger
names than what came out today, Maybe not locally bigger names,

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but bigger names nationally than what came out today, that
looked to be in line for a possible.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Arrest here soon anything. How soon are we going to know?
With those other names that I can tell you that.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Be speculation on my part, but I will tell you
that there are a bevy of names that one of
which is an NBA Hall of Famer, one of them
is a very famous boxer, one of them is an
NFL Hall of Famer alleged to be caught up in
this as well.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Wow, all right, well, thank you Ben Yep, our insider,
not only for the NFL, but for gambling stories as well.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Well. I have not I did not lose any money
on this disclaimer.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yes, ah, yes, thanks man, Go play some video games.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Here's what I don't understand, right, And as I say this,
I do understand it, but it's so bizarre. I have
to preface it this way. Why would an individual with
so much to lose be willing to make this type
of no pun intended type of gamble.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Why?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, that's what I don't understand when a lot of
these people, I mean not just this story, but when
celebrities or professional athletes get caught up on something that
seems so beneath them, That's what I don't understand. And
you know, Chauncey a true legend in Colorado, like him
and Dave Logan are like the two names you think
of that are from here, made a name for themselves

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and are revered here and it's just horrible to hear
and everything that I've heard about Chauncey from people that
know him, well, it's like this is so out of
character for him. So maybe they were using his profile,
but man, it just does not look good.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Well, here's the way that I look at most of
these situations is that, yeah, I know the allegations are,
I'm going to allow the legal process to actually work
and then cast my final judgment at that particular time
because in this country, we are perceived to be innocent

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into proven guilty.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Now doesn't feel well.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
I have to tell you this.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
In the neighborhood that I grew up in, it was
a total opposite. You were guilty and you had to
prove him innocence. Right, That's what it was. But the
idea is never put yourself in a situation where.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
You are compromised or.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
As it was said in my family especially now, don't
do anything to mess up your wikipedia. So all it
takes is one thing right and it's blasted and being
convicted in the court of popular opinion, it changes everything.
And just think the NBA season just started. This is
dominating the conversation. Now, there was something I was watching

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Rich Eisen Show today and Brian Windhurst was on.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Now, Brian Windhurst brought up.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Something that I found really interesting as far as Terry
Razier is concerned, that there's an algorithm that if you
use your phone your computer, they can trace it back
to you your IP address, the whole nine.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
You sent me that clip and he said basically that
they knew that day.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yes, but Roseia it played for a while and then
mysteriously there was somewhat of an injury. Because I'm a
Miami Heat fan and it was like, well, I was
happy when Roseil came and joined the Miami Heat, but
then all the time, yeah, and then he was injured,
and I'm like, what, What's what's going on That's going.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
To affect the team.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
So now it seems as though this question as to
was he seriously injured or did that was it was
that a kind of recommend that came down from.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
The NBA to kind of sit him out.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
And if that was the case, then if you if
I'm gonna leak Beasley, if I'm John Jay Porter, I'm
a little ticked off because they're like, hey man, we
were put on blasts and this guy just kind of
set out with injury. Yes, so I don't know what's
really going on, but there there is a problem. And
the reason all of this, the timing of it is

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so bad because Adam Silver the other day was saying, well,
the NBA needs to do more regulation or have more
regulations as it pertains to sports betting.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Do you think that maybe that was a little foreshadowing
by him, like he knew this was coming down, right, Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Because think about think about it this way. How many times.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
That we've seen college teams violate some kind of rule
n Cuba rule and oh, we're going to just self sanction,
if you will, self penalized.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
So we're going to penalize ourselves and.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
We're going to say, well, this particular player coach is
not going to be available for this particular game. Michigan
tried to do that same thing, right, and then it
was like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no
no no, you don't get the chance to reprimand yourself.
We're going to do that for you. And then there
was a kind of a suspension for coach Harball, who's
not coming back to coach to coach college football, and

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the current Michigan coach, you know he had some time
for that that kind of scandal.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yes, it's just.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Like, man, I don't get it, and I tell people
in my family I'm honest, and I tell my mom,
I'm not going to jail for anyone in my family.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
I'm not.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
My freedom is my freedom. Whatever you did, I'm sorry.
I love you like a play cousin, but that's on you.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, five six, six, nine zero. The text line from
the seven to to oher. And this is going back
to your point, Nick, about being guilty in the court
of public opinion.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
If Phillips was innocent, his name wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Be in the news.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
I mean, that's people drawing conclusions already. And I mean,
like I said, it does not look good. Something else
that didn't look good on Sunday, the Broncos offense until
that tremendous fourth quarter comeback, which will be replaying tomorrow,
not the entire game.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Just the fourth quarter tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
On BCT at six o'clock.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Joe Lombardi had some comments on the Broncos offense today
when he spoke with the media.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
I just told the guys to start doing some of
that fourth quarter stuff a little earlier, you know, I mean,
really when you look at it, you know, we started slow.
A lot of reasons for that. You know, we had
some drop passes. You know, it felt like they were
playing faster than us a little bit. You know, we
had a lot of screens that we felt were set
up well, and watching the film, felt they were set
up well.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
You know, didn't block the perimeter like we wanted to.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
And you know, there's a lot of reasons why you're
moving the ball or you're not moving the ball, and
you know think that I think that we're a team
that's in really good shape. So I think that we
wear down teams sometimes and that helps. But it just
comes down to you know, execution and getting in a rhythm.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
And you know.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
There are games where we've played well early and the
last couple we haven't. And you know, something that we
look closely at, but I don't think there's a magic
you know, something to look at and say, hey, this
is if we do this, it gets fixed. I think
it's just coming out ready to play early. And I'm
not sure that happened on Sunday, but luckily we figured

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it out.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
That was Broncos offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi on the emphasis
for the offense this week, and if only it were
that easy to recreate some of that fourth quarter magic.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
At the beginning of the game. Anything that stood out
to you in those comments there.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
Nick, Yeah, I mean, once again, when you're the play caller,
you could dictate a lot. As far as what's going
on now, I do agree with Coach Lombardia is going
back to execution. Execution is a good thing. Like we've
seen the Broncos is go back to the Charges game.
There were two plays where the Broncos took d shots,
one to Marvin Mahms and the others to Courtland Sutton.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
They didn't connect and these maybe.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Was on fourth to one and plays like that, but
execution became somewhat of issue now every single thing not
so much when you think about the Broncos screen game,
which was driving fans nuts and bonkers. And it wasn't
only just driving fans crazy, but the alumni who I

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was sitting next to, it was driving them nuts.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
To fans of the play calling either, huh No.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
Because here's the thing, when you've played this game as
long as we've played it, there's certain things that stick out,
like a sore thumb and there's certain things that kind
of flash, like Krispy Kreme Donuts hot sign, right.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
And when you see it, you know it.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
And when you watched how the giants were all over
the Broncos screens all over them almost like they had
the playbook right, they knew what was going to be called.
And sometimes you set that up based on formations, knowing
who's in what position, and you learn that by watching film.
There's a person a couple of people in every inter

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for organization whose jobs are to break down film of
the opponent. My job when I was with the San
Francisco forty nine.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Ers, guess what it was. That was my job looking
at other teams, trying to.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Pick up on Ludle Morris, who's little nuggets to figure
out where I can give to Robert Slid, the defensive coordinator, Hey,
they're going to do this, and oh, by the way,
give you a little insight of what happens in the
press box.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
I'm doing my job.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
I'm charting plays or how many times have been run
this particular play out of this formation. I had to
know that. I had to give that to Rob a
Salad and say, well, here's what they're doing out of
this formation or with this personnel yes on this down edistance,
So that told him how to call plays to stop
it versus the formation that's on the field, right.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
And here's the other thing. The problem with the Broncos screens.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
They had thrown the ball too many times behind the
line of scrimmage. Yeah, they're not throwing the ball vertically.
It's going parallel to the line of scrimmage. So you're
bringing the defenders into the mix. And if you're going
to do that, at least have a bridge play off
of that, which is maybe a screen and go. Because
the other thing that's a problem that I don't think

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no one's talking about I'm gonna talk about because I
know football. If you're going to run screens like that consistently,
grant one, you have to practice that. And two, your
guys have to block the tight end group collected.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
And I'm not singling anyone out.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
They don't do a great job of holding a point
and blocking at the point of attack.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
But that's something that's easily fixable, wouldn't you think, Yeah,
like just getting that buy in for the blocks on
the screenplays from the tight ends, I mean yes, and
not like we don't have good I mean, troutman, he's
a decent blocking tight end, or he has been in
the past.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Okay, you said decent.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Here's the thing and what's involved with every single play
effort doesn't take talent. You just have to make a
decision that I'm going to make this play. And I
can tell you this as a guy that played for
Bill Parcells, played for Mike Shanahan and Wave Phillips, especially
playing for Bill Parcells. He doesn't want to hear Oh

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I tried. Oh this guy was faster than me. No, no, no, no, no,
uh uh. You're supposed to do a job. Do your
damn job, right, I mean, we heard it with the.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Patriots, Go to your job.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
Why do we hear with the Patriots? Where did Bill
Belichick come from? Bill Parcels? So I know what I know.
They don't want to hear any excuses. Did you count
the guy in front of you? Like Mike Westuff used
to say, if you can't count the five, you can't
play for him.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Right, that was the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
So if I know on the screen, I've already identified
the guy I need to block. Id's in front of me,
or maybe he's inside as soon as the ball snapped,
I'm going to make a play. Anyone else can miss
that block. I'm not missing mind. So I'm not seeing
tight ends sustain their blocks. I'm not seeing wide receivers

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sustain their blocks. Right, in order to run a screen game,
you need your perimeter players to block. And Mike Shanahan
had a rule, right, if you don't block, you don't
get the You know, we're not throwing you the ball.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
And Patrick Bryant when he was drafted, I asked.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Him specifically because he was one of those guys who
was blocking in college, and he clearly said, no block,
no rock That's what he said.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
No block, no rob.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
That's right, he clearly said, and it was true. Right,
Why Mike shitty hands I did? Why should I reward
you with a passing play and you can't even blot
on the screen or a run play.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
But also, you got to open up that screen game,
like you said earlier, with some deep shots. And it
feels like we have all the weapons we need to
take deep shots, but we're not doing it early on
in the game.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
We're waiting until we have to.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Come back where we're down nineteen nothing in the fourth quarter.
I mean, you've got Courtland Sutton who a fifty to
fifty ball with him, Yes, it is like a seventy thirty.
You've got Troy Franklin who can run past anybody. Marvin
Mims same thing, like, why aren't we taking these deep
shots earlier in the game. Why does it seem like
Sean Payton has the handcuffs on bow Nicks and tell

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it's time for him to save the day.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
Well, once again, going back to what Lombardi said, as
far as ooh, the team, what they look like in
the fourth quarter?

Speaker 4 (17:00):
What happened in the fourth quarter?

Speaker 5 (17:01):
You were trailing, so you had to go up temple,
which is a dirty word, right, I don't know why
it's a dirty word.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Which should be one of the big biggest advantages the
Broncos have playing a mile high.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
And then yes, and well, I mean Nathan you hack
it when he was here.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
They didn't do it. I mean Sean Payton or Russell
Wilson didn't do it. And I'm like, I don't understand.
I don't understand why you don't do it. So if
you want to know how the Broncos get their office going,
go no huddle.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
But you can only set it up if you start
running the ball.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
And that's the truth. And that's what bothered me the
most when we were down on the goal.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Line last week and it was like pass pass pass,
Okay could have got two yards in those three plays.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Run the ball with JK. Dobbins or R. J. Harvey.
We got a big show tonight.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
We got Rick Lewis, Broncos color analysts joining us next
for the what the Funk segment remased us at seven
oh five. I'm Grant Smith felling in for Benjamin Albright
alongside my guy, Nick Ferguson on Broncos Country to Night
on KOA A fifty am for one ff. I'm your host,
Grant Smith filling in for Benjamin Albright alongside Nick Ferguson,

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and we are joined by Broncos color analyst Rick Lewis, Rick,
What the funk was it like?

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Calling the end of that game?

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Man?

Speaker 7 (18:14):
Man, it was amazing, guys, Well Dave was making that call.
I was hanging out the booth, literally hanging out the booth,
fist bumping, high five and fans backslapping fans. It was magic, man.
I was so excited. I was beside myself. I hardly
slept that night. I don't know about the rest of
Broncos country, but I could hardly go to sleep that night.

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I was just so jacked up from a call on
that game. It was so cool to be able to
do that. What a great experience.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
All right, Ray, let me get to the nuts and
bolts of this situation. Obviously, that was a game winning
cake by Will Ludz. But then there was some individual
situations that took place on the field, one most recently
with Dre Greenlaw where his suspension was upheld.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
But the one with Justice Frenad.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
I don't really understand that one because, as it's been
laid out, it wor suggested that he made contact with
Brad Allen. That's not how I saw it, But you
tell me how you saw it. As far as how
bizarre this situation is, yeah, very strange.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
It almost feels like the NFL's got it out for
the Broncos and Sean Payton when you look at that
and I watched that video many times in slow motion
like you guys probably did, and I didn't see Justin
Ronad do anything wrong. It looked to me like Brad
Allen pushed him out of the way. And that's when
Drake Greenlaw took offense to that and started chasing down

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Brad Allen.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
I don't know what he said to him.

Speaker 7 (19:46):
I don't know did that ever come out, because they
said he verbally threatened.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
It has not come out what he said.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
Well, whatever he said, you know, I either it scared
the crap out of Brad Allen because he pulls his
flag out and he throws it, which is kind of stupid.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Game's over.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
But he must have said something that really scared the
crap out of him that he goes to the league
and tells the league what happens, and it's unfortunate. I
think they will miss Drake green Law this week against
the Cowboys, one of the best offenses in the league.
But that being said, you know, it shows you what

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Dre Greenlaw brings to this football team. And I don't
think they really have had a guy like him on
this football team. This guy's a dog, this guy has
got an edge to him. He sets the tone on defense.
He only played the first half of the game and
he had an impact on the game. So I do
like what he brings to this locker room. And what

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you saw at the end of that game is unfortunate,
some people saying it was dumb for him to do that,
But I think he got caught up in the moment
of all the excitement that all the fans were feeling
and I was feeling in the booth, and he kind
of let his emotions get the best of them.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Broncos color analyst Rick lewis joining us here on Broncos
Country tonight, and let's look ahead to that Cowboys matchup
that the Broncos defense will be taking on this high
powered Cowboys offense without as you mentioned, Drake Green Lawley
inside linebacker, but you know they've been without most of
the year so far this year and looked pretty darn
good as well. How do you slow down this Cowboys

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offense with all the weapons CD Lamb, George Pickens, Ferguson
at tight end, and of course the resurgence of Javonte
Williams at running back.

Speaker 7 (21:36):
Yeah, they're a top ten team in just about every
category except rushing in the National Football League, but they're
near the bottom two or three in just about every
category on defense. So how do you stop this offense?
You need to win the time of possession, paddle and
how do you do that, you run the football, you

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convert third downs. I know we say this every week,
right Nick, right, Grant, We talk about, hey man, run
the football. Stick with the run. They never do. This
would be a good time to do it. Keep that
high powered offense on the bench. You got to convert
third downs. You have to eliminate the stupid penalties. You
have to start catching balls and not dropping them. If

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you do those things on Sunday, I feel like this
could be a get right game for the Broncos on
the offensive side of the ball. I know what they're
gonna do on defense. I feel pretty confident that they'll
be able to slow down Dak Prescott.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
In that high powered offense.

Speaker 7 (22:38):
So I think the Broncos have a chance to score
a lot of points in this game. And that's how
you keep Dak on the bench and slow down that offense.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
That's going to be really interesting for the Broncos to
really definitely to pull that off. But before you join us,
there's some audio from offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi where he
talked about what the team did offensively in the fourth
quarter and how the players need to be able to
duplicate the same performance to start in every single game.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
And my biggest thing is, I mean, I have my answers.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
As to how the team can pull it off, but
is what would be the secret formula in European for
how this team could pull this off, not just starting
the game, but coming out of the gate in the
second half.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yeah, they never do that.

Speaker 7 (23:31):
They rarely start off games hot. They usually start the
game three and out. We've seen that happen over and
over again. I'm not sure why. It almost looks like
in that first quarter first half Bow is pressing like
maybe there's either too much on his plate or he's
feeling too much pressure. That's when we typically see him

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overthrow open receivers. Is in that first half as well,
it feels like they have him on a pretty tight leash,
and thus he looks pretty tight when he's out there.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Then they get behind, and.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
Especially in the fourth quarter, Bo's got to open it up,
and they have to let him open it up otherwise
they're never going to catch up. And that's when he
looks his best. He looks his best in chaos. You know,
he reminds me a lot nick of Jake Plumber. I
think him and Jake very very similar in their approach

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to the game and what they do well. And I
know Jake Plumber very well and I'm sure you do too, Nick.
Jake is a big fan of bo Nicks. He also
feels like they need to take the chains off, take
the leash off of bow Let this guy ball because
he has all the attributes to be a really, really

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good quarterback in this league, but it does seem like
they don't quite trust him in the first half or
early in the game.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Broncos color analyst Rick lewis joining us here on Bronco
Country Tonight.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Rick.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
I'm always behind the scenes running the board for the
Broncos game, but I love the segment you and Ryan
do together every week, and I gotta ask you the question.
I want to give Broncos Country a little tease on
what your answer may be. Feel free to change it
by Sunday. But one player on offense, one player on
defense do you think is gonna have a big game
on Sunday against Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
I think it's gonna be a Bonix day.

Speaker 7 (25:23):
I think the Broncos score thirty points, maybe thirty three
points in this game. The Cowboys passing defense is horrible
and they're probably gonna be out.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Their best cornerback is going to be out.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
I'm talking about Trayvon Diggs, which gives the Broncos a
little more advantage on the defensive side of the ball.
I think it's gonna be somebody like Alex Singleton who's
gonna lead the team in sacks, which he typically does,
but he's gonna be the guy that's gonna have to
stop Javonte Williams in the gap and then the rest
of that defense gonna have to swarm him. Make sure

(26:01):
you get him on the ground. He's very similar running
style to Camp Scataboo. You got to swarm him, no
arm tackles, get him on the ground. So I'm gonna
go Alex Singleton on defense and Bo Knicks on offense.
But I do I would like to reserve the opportunity
to change my mind before we get to Sunday. As
we continue to study the.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Game, wall out, wall out.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
At this time, I like that You've still got to
Camp Skataboo reference in there, your guy from Arizona State.

Speaker 7 (26:29):
Well, you know what I mentioned Alex Singleton and Camp
Scataboo together, and what really changed the game was when
Alex Singleton blitzed. It just blew up scataboo. And you
don't see that ever happened to him. He put him
right on his back, which forced Dart to make a
bad throw that Strenad picked off and that turned the

(26:51):
whole game. When that happened in that game, I started thinking, Man,
we're gonna win this game. We are going to win
this football game. And they came from behind me and
they did it. Man, that was so cool. I can't
wait to hear it replay tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, we got the fourth quarter tomorrow night at six
o'clock here on BCT Rick time always goes too fast.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Really appreciate the time tonight, man.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Anytime, guys, We'll talk to you next week. Go Broncos.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Do you agree with Rick that that's when bow is
at his best, when he's playing a little backyard football.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
One hundred percent or better yet one thousand percent. And
the reason I say that is not because home cooking.
I'm gonna go back and lean on what I know,
and that's football. And what we've seen over the past
couple of years in the game is that the mobile
quarterbacks are the ones that are the hardest to defend.

(27:46):
A guy who is your premier typical traditional pocket passers,
even though they can sling it from the pocket. For me,
those guys are easy to defend when they drop back
or they said the shotgun.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
If you're at seven to eight, guess what going to
be right there? Seven and eight yards expect the exactly.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
I don't have to worry about a guy pulling the
ball down and running the ball because either it's a
design quarterback run or he sees a lane and the
pockets break downs, he takes off and run. Last year
we saw Bow do that a lot. This year we
saw we were seeing bo do that a lot. And
when you look at whether it's PFF numbers, Fox sports

(28:25):
dot com, whatever, when you start to look at the
Broncos and say, well, how many sacks have they given up?
Oh man, that offensive line is great. I'm not trying
to take anything away from the offensive line. But a
mobile quarterback does two things. He can either help you
or he can hurt you. At the same time, he
can help you when the pocket starts to break down.
And we saw it in the Jets game in London.

(28:46):
Pocket broke down by mcglitchy gave the inside I mean
allowed the guy to get inside and outside. Oh inside,
I'm sorry, bow got outside. He threw it to Troy Franklin.
Troy Franklin took two steps, ball was punched out right.
So Bo is actually saving them sometimes.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Now here's the.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
Other part where running quarterback Grant can get you in trouble.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
You know why, you know what we constantly.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
Hear about running or mobile quarterbacks, however you want to
classify it. They hold the poll two damn long. You
know why, because he's trying to make a play.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
That's why. That's why I got Josh Allen then trouble
in his career early on.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Yeah, but at the same.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
Time, this is the the super there's superpower and their
kryptonite all at the same time. So you live and
die with it. Forcing the guy to be something that
he's not. To me, that's a disaster. We saw that
a little bit Russell Wilson Russell was not your pocket passer.
You gotta get him outside the pocket. And the same
thing with Bo. Bo can make plays from the pocket.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Grant.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Well, what did we see in the fourth quarter? Tell
me what coach Lombardy was talking about, Telling me what
Rick Lewis was talking about. Tell me what you saw
and what you heard in the fourth quarter, tell.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Me plays breaking down and bow making place.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Thank you, and even so much.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
So there was a design quarterback run while they pulled
the guy and who got outside.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Nicks on a design quarterback run?

Speaker 8 (30:04):
Bo just have to care BA send to five touchdown,
dead bar, Holy mackerel. The Broncos are an extra point
away from putting thirty on the Giants in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Holy mackerel of that call from Dave Logan.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
But that's what I want to see more of, not
just him scrambling when the plays break down. He is
sneaky athletic, Like, let this dude do some designed run plays,
like when you can pull out Mike McGlinchey from the
right side and have him seal that block, Like what
dB is gonna compare to what dB is gonna.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Come up yes to Mike McGlinchey in that moment, Like
that is a.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Beautifully designed play And if you just let bow run,
he's gonna get the job done.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
But here's another thing too that benefits the offense, the
way that the rules have changed now when there's a
pulling tackle or pulling guard. Back in my day, we
would just knife that guy and just create a pole up.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
You can't do that now.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
That's exactly yeah, the game set up for the offense.
As you well know, we got Breemason's coming up next.
I'm Grant Smith filling in for Benjamin Albright alongside my
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