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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well do it Broncos Country tonight. But with all Brian
Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith, no rally fingers mustache.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I thought maybe he'd come in and try it.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Maybe maybe given one time to Nick Ferguson pointing out
that the waxed mustache.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
But no, if Nick Ferguson is not going to grow
his beard back out on anything with my facial that
is one hundred percent fair.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Why does this all hinge on me growing back my face?
You're hair? Hey, I'm just saying, ask your wife. You're
the only one here who could grow the cool beer.
So you're you're mean right, First, Let's be totally honest.
Each one of us test all testosterone.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Driven men could actually grow a beard, maybe some lot
full of than others.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Just looks like a beards so much as it looks
like I have the main No. I mean if you were.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Dedicated to it, yeah, and you pushed through it like
I did to get through the itchy.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Paz, you too can. I mean, look look at grand
space you can be there. That can be that without
the thickness of the mustache.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I guess a week old like for me, it just
grows out to a certain point and then it just stops.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I guess it looks like.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
That kid that just starts growing facial hair and high
school and has to.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Grow it out. Yes, because it looks cool, but it
really looks really bad. This is it. It's always been
like this.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Like that's why I usually electricrazier trimmed down the next
day stubble, because that's what it always looks like. It
just does not get thicker than that.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Well, if you guys are anticipating or waiting for me
to grow back my face your hair, you can forget it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You got what you got.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Noven Beard coming up with lovetails right with Decen Beard.
So I mean, no, I've been there, done that. I
did that for eight years.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'm just still waiting on both of you to join
the mustache gang.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I think we're good five years that nobody. Nobody wants
to see me like that, Like I'm not looking. It
is not a good look for me.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You're gonna be like that guy that people see in
public and they're like, get your kids away from him.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, they're like, that guy's got a fan exactly. He
got a conversion van for sure, not the a team van,
but the spoiler come on, I can't believe that.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
The first thing you tell us, Hey, why don't you
guys just grow mustache?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Some people's faces are not built for the sash, and
this is like, for whatever reason, your face that much
it works.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I never expected to be a mustache man. But I
was just talking to my wife last night. I was like,
I don't think I'll ever shave it. It's just part
of me now. I think Nick would look good with
a nice clean mustache.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
No, no, no, I've seen lethal weapon Danny Glover. I've
seen it. I don't even oh that that I need
a mullet to go.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Just make the thing work, right, I people though, faces
just work with a mustache, right, they Grant Smith, they
work with a mustache.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Oh man, I was watching Friends the other day.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
My wife was watching when I got home from work,
and it was the season where Tom Sellick doesn't.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Have a mustache. Like, that's gonna be me. Now, I
can't ever shave it. How weird does it look? See,
I'm not good.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I can't do that because it's just like me growing
a mustache. You might as well put me on a
bolo police alert.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Like that's what I just I looked. Oh, I thought
you're gonna say you're join in on Bolo tie Thursday too.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No, that's no. Be on the lookout. No, I don't
want to do that. Last night, Nick suggested that the OKAC.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Thunder we're going to give the Nuggets hole they could handle,
and they certainly did.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I mean, listen last year when we had VK on yesterday,
I said to BK, I said, well, last year, if
you look at the two meetings the OKC Thunder, they
were two and one versus the Nuggets, and a lot
of those games were tight. But the problem was SGA.
Who was gonna stop him? Right because last night, wherever
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you wanted to get on the floor, he got to
his spot.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
And then the idea of.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
The defense specialist, you know, KCP is not here, so
it's gonna be Aaron going And I don't know if
you saw it, but it was at the top of
the key.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
He like dribble, he switched hands and then he hit
him with the heavy.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Aund.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yes, so right now the Thunder are playing with a
lot of confidence. They don't fear that Denver Nuggets as
all the teams fear. And granted you asked me the
other night bit about the window for the Nuggets. I
think it's going to get to a point where we're
gonna have to talk about the window for the Thunder
because these two teams are on a collision course. And
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what I saw from check Homegrun last night, he was
about that life.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I'm just saying, Hey, I mean he was twenty five points,
fourteen boards, five Assistshi Gildess, Alexander twenty eight points, Shy
had three blocks. That was impressive, eight assists, seven boards.
The Denver Nuggets just couldn't hit from from downtown. Nicola
was doing his thing, and I don't even think you
just had anybody else that felt like they were a
major contributor.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You know, blocks, did Homegrun have four? Yeah? Man, that
one boy, wait.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
With the one on the joker and then he was
like trailing to play and he was slowly coming down
and then all of a sudden he got the bounce
pass and Peyton.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Watson was trying to block the side post rage.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, it was not a great night for the night,
especially shooting for the Nuggets. By the way, that understand
something like thirteen blocks as a team. It was an
absurd number. Uh, And just I think is said Joe
was the only starter who didn't get a block in
that game. So there's a lot of people kind of
panicking out there already. To me, it's just one game
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against a very good team.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You know in the Thunder, you get ten games in
and you're seeing these kinds of problems, then then I'm
starting to hit the panic button.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I'm not hit the pant button after one game.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
No, if anyone is hitting the panic button, it's an
over exaggeration, right, because I know expectation for teams here
in Denver are definitely high, and when you go out
on your home court and you don't play well, everyone
thinks the sky's following. But this is the first game
of the season, and that's that's a good and the
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bad of the NBA season. It's so long.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's like the baseball season.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
You can lose the first twenty games and then come
on on a back end and then now you may
be number one seeds. And let's be totally honest, Ben,
the Nuggets are not going to be a player in
basketball team now. They're not going to be that type
of team.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Speaking of baseball, baseball season, you talked about it being
a lengthy season, it's come to its penultimate conclusions. The
World Series starts tonight, Los Angeles Dodgers, New York Yankees.
We know that you're a big New York Yankees fan, Nick,
So why are the Dodgers gonna beat him tonight?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean, you can say whatever he wants.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
And you know what, this is the epic series. I
think baseball fans were wanted coast, whether you like the
teams or the players or not, because you got big
city versus big city right, versus Biggie right right, the
concrete jungle versus palm trees and beaches right, and you know,
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people running on the beach like is they watch? So
you have all of that kind of clashing at one time.
And for me, I wanted to see sluggers like show
Hey go tiny.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Just think about it.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
As many years as Shohey has been in baseball, and
he was with the Angels at one point, jump to
the Dodgers. Now he's in the World Series. So you
got Juan Soto, you know, you got Ama Judge, you
have John Carlos Stanton and that hitting versus the pitching
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of the Dodgers is no matter who wins, man, it's
going to be epic for baseball fans.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Well, yeah, I think it's I mean, it's two major
markets and all that kind of stuff. There are a
lot of in between cities. The flyover cities are a
little disgruntled, you know, calling it an East coast West coast,
you know series and all that kind of stuff. But
is this does this have the potential to be the
type of series that reignites things for the sport? Baseball
has been a fairly long suffering sports since the strike
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back in the nineties when football and basketball overtook them
and never looked back.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Does this have the potential to beat Laker Celtics. Yes
it does.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Now if it's kind of like a sweep or one
team wins one game, I'm gonna say no.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I mean, if you push it to the limit where
you getting to the last game, right, your last.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Game to me, that's when it becomes truly epic because
now you got the story, franchise, the different players, Pitts, Babe, Ruth,
all of that.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know, we get a chance to sit back and
watch on phone. This is one of this. This is
kind of good and.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
The bad about you know baseball and the NBA where
they have multiple games that you can kind of stretch
this out and you can really build it up. And
this is definitely one of those series that the MLB
can actually build up.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
The same world. Serious. I mean, obviously you've got your
team in it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
We're wearing your Yankees hat right now, a top of
your Btanzie therapy hoodie. I welcome back today a Broncos
fashion country tonight.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I but is this appointment viewing?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Would it be appointment viewing for you if it was
the Astros and the Dodgers. No, So it's because you're
you're watching, but because you're well.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Because not just because the Yankees are in it, but
just the story tradition behind the two franchises. If you
were to go from the you can go from the
guys who were the managers to the guys who were
the players, to the guys who were calling the game,
like the Dodgers Vince Gully me Baseball one to watch
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and to listen to.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
This Gully is no longer with us, but you just.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Kind of envision, like, how will you called this particular play?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Right, Let's say Mookie Bets hits.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
A double, a triple of home run, how would he
call it? So there's so many facets to this game
that if you're the Baseball commissioner, you could not have
written a bigger story. Because I know some people in
New York who I know who are both Mets fans
and Yankees fans. Some of them were hoping for a
subway series, and I'm like, we've already seen that. I
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don't want to see that. I want to see those
teams duke it out.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Well, you're talking about the history of the Yankees and
the Dodgers. They faced off eleven times in the World Series.
I mean, just think about that, eleven times against each other. However,
this is the first time in forty three years that
they're going to be going head to head for the title.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
So this is a new generation of fig Nite, the
rivalry and all that kind of stuff. I'll probably watch
it in passing.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I mean, to be honest with you, baseball is so
off my radar most of the time.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well, well, let's be totally honest.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
There's so many things that are off your radar unless
you play in a video game where you're just running
the front.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, those are all off my radar, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
No, I mean, but baseball it is like, it's so
far up. There's so many other things I prioritize before
I'm even watching that.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And I'm watching you know, I'm watching college football.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I'm watching basketball, watching college basketball.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Okay, it's October, right, Baseball are October for this moment.
It was built with this moment, right, Like for me,
there's so many games in baseball. I don't watch the
first I don't know forty games, yeah, right, But after
All Star I started tuning in. That's when it starts
to get really serious. And just is this something unique?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
If you own a text line, if you think I'm crazy, whatever,
or you you're a fan of it, just hit us
up with let us not, because once again, it's something
different about October baseball opposed to the beginning of the
season that is so electric and this is going to
be one of those epics series once again.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Well, somebody from the nine seven zero points out the
thing that I was about to point out, which is
the epic money versus epic money. These are the top
two payrolls in b are two of the three top
three payrolls, and the Mets were obviously the other one
three hundred and three million dollars for the Yankees two
hundred and forty nine million dollars for the Dodgers. And
I say that as somebody who came up as as
a long suffering Royals fan. Who is you know at
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their payrolls twenty first in the league. In fact, for
a long time there for the Royals. They're good players.
They were almost a de facto farm system for the
for the Yankees, because when the players got good, they
couldn't pay them anymore, and the Yankees would come along
and just buy them.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And so that's that's.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Sort of Do you like the fact that baseball doesn't
have a salary cap that the teams can just buy
the best team?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I mean, if you have the money, go ahead and
do it, like Stybrenn has tried it for years. And
did the Yankees have like the best of the best players?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Did it always mean that they won a title? No,
but they were always in the think of it. And
it's funny that you bring up the Royals several years
back when you look at the rose payroll for the
Dodgers and the Yankees, like, over the years they won
a title, Yeah, they won a title.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
They did twenty five years without breaking five hundred they
finally won one. Yes, right right right?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
So you you the idea is that you spend money
for titles what you do. But on the off chance,
if you have a great farming system and you can
evaluate talent, there's a possibility that you put yourself right there. Now,
does that mean that that's guaranteed? Absolutely not, the only
thing that's guaranteed in life. As I was told as
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a kid, death in taxis that's about it.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Well, and the Rockies thinking the Rocky hold on the
Rockies right here on kill the Rockies by the way,
for those curriers have a middle of the pack payroll.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
The a one hundred and forty.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Two million, little over a hundred forty million, which would
be sixteenth, just right there at the In the media
and in terms of payroll.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
There was all show there's a story this week. I'm
sure you got from Patrick Sandres.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I saw the players that are looking to get rid
of it.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I'm like, why you finally started getting some calendar.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
You're gonna You're just gonna ship them off. We suck again.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
See some teams do that just so they can say
they hit the reset button and start all over.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
So now maybe the fan basic.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Okay, Well, they're taking a different approach, a different vision,
and it's still to me that that means you're still
trying to keep the fan.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Base on the hook. For me as a fan, if
I see that the team is.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Not doing everything they can possible to make the team better,
even if that meant been that you have to pay
a luxury tax if you in basketball, so be it right,
But are you really committed to winning? And that's been
the question mark around here as it pertains to the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So I was wondering about their report.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Saunders said, the plan the team lands a lower payroll
with an expectation that they will shop second basement. Breton
Rodgers left, he starter, Austin Gomber and righty started Cal
Quantrill three of.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
The bright spots that this team had.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's a frustrating turn of event for Rockies fans as
they get two consecutive seasons of one hundred losses while
they enjoyed encouraging step forwards from Tolio, Breton Doyle, Tovar,
Ryan Felder, Nolan Jones had a good season two years ago.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You hope you can get back to that.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And Charlie Blackman retired and you're saying you're gonna trade
away three of the better players that you have.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Okay, so and what are they gonna get back? We
all saw what they didn't get for Nolan Aronano.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
If the Rockies management were telling me they're going to
trade those players for pitching, right, maybe that might be
somewhat of an idea, because you're not getting pitchers to
come in, Like I think a couple of years ago,
I think Dick Monford was talking about so he was
to ask a question about Garret Cole, who pitches for
the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It's like, why are you not going after Garret Cole?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
And he was just like, well, we kind of know
me paraphrasing that we can't get those types of players.
So since say no, they can't get those types of players,
you now have to trade for them or you have
to draft and develop.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
And the Rockies formerly is not even close to the Dodgers,
They're not even close to Arizona Diamondbacks.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, so why don't you keep your good players and
then try to add to it?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
What do I know? I'm just some guy. We got
hit a break, we come back, Mike k He's going
to join us. Talk a little bit about the Panthers
litener Broncos country and I don't care.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Why going right out to the KWA Common Spirit Health
hotline and bring our guy Mike kay at Mike Underscore
e underscore k on Twitter. I refuse to call it
X covers of Panthers The Charlotte Observer, Mike, how you doing.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
I'm well, how's it going, guys?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Going pretty well? I'm trying to think of the nicest
way to say this. The Broncos have circled.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
This game as a very wittable game, and the Broncos
are not exactly a team anybody's sitting here calling a
Super Bowl favorite. Why should the Broncos be worried about
the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
I struggled to think of a reason, to be honest
with you. They have an injury report that has eighteen
statuses on it, and ten of those are outer doubtful.
They're starting Bryce Young, who has looked futurd in this
first few games this season. They benched him. They've openly
said that eighty Dalton gives them a better chance to win.
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I guess if you want to look for one threat,
it's the Chuba Hubbard Express, just running through that defensive front.
But even then, I don't know if it'll be enough.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
So when you look at the fact that there are
a couple of players, Gionta Johnson, he's not playing, and
now you can have the conversation on whether that is
because the team is protecting Johnson or they're looking to
trade him.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
But no Adam Thiela. So where does the offense come from?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
You mentioned Trouper Hubbard, but it's gotta be a little
more offense than that if you're gonna play against the
differ Broncos.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Here Leget, the first round pick, started to bloss him
a little bit over the last month or so. He
had a rough game against the Commanders, but they like
what he's able to do in the open field. He's
gonna jump all threat He's a big body. Jatavian Sanders,
the tight end from Texas. He started to kind of
developed into a possession weapon. Miles Sanders is a guy
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who has kind of been forgotten about, but he can
make plays in the passing game like there are weapons.
But this is not going to be m Kansas City Chiefs.
This is not going to be the Detroit Lions. This
is not gonna be the Philadelphia Eagles. This is going
to be a team that is struggling not to go
in last in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Talking to Mike Kay from the Showott Observer, Mike, how's
my guy Dave doing out there? Canal's take it over
as a head coach. Now, you guys have been through
a few coaches, you know, fairly recently. How has Dave
Canal's adjusting to it? What does it look like under
him in terms of trajectory.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
Well, I think he's learning right. I think this is
a situation where he comes in after one year of
being and OC, and now he's the head coach, the
offensive coordinator, the quarterback coach, and the spirit leader all
in one. I mean, it's a lot to take on.
He's kind of taking it head on, and I think, look,
this has been a humbling experience the first seven weeks,
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especially for a guy who's incredibly positive. But I think
he's trying to see it through. I think he's in
sync with the front office, which was something that I
think the previous regime kind of lacked. And you know,
I mean I think he's trying to develop. I think
he's in a similar vote to when you have a
rookie quarterback and he's just kind of learning the job
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the Goos.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
When you look at the Denver Broncos from from your
side and you look at the offense, because the offense
has been struggling until that Thursday night game, how do
you guys in Carolina look at bo Nicks in the offense.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
I think, similar to my point of how Dave tanal
Is is, Goo Nicks has upside. He's athletic, he's got
great traits, but he's still learning. He's kind of like
when you see like a birthing video of a giraffe,
right like, he's kind of moving around. He's he's athletic,
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he can do certain things, but it's not all there yet.
And I think you know, for Igor everro it's an
opportunity to kind of take advantage of the fact that
you have a bunch of no name personnel who haven't
really been able to you haven't been able to study
if you're an opposing team, and maybe he creates a
plan that can stop.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Nixed Tyler Mike kay Hell the Charlotte Observer, Mike, as
we look at the Panthers, you guys also have a
Jero Rivero there on the defensive side. Got some interviews
this past cycle. It had been trending upwards for him.
But you look at the defense he's year, and of
course a lot of that can be attributed to attrition
and injury and all that. But the shine seems to
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have come off of Geral rivera a little bit. What
is that the case there locally or is that just
a national maybe misperception.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Well, I think there's a little bit of that, but
I would also say the contact is key with this.
So the Panthers doubled down on their investment in Bryce
Young by going heavy and offensive free agency, which then
let the neglect on defense. Brian Burns sus famously traded
Frank you Mouu signed elsewhere, even though they wanted to
have him back. They brought in guys that he was
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familiar with, and Josie Jewell and James did sorry Josie Jewell,
Nick Scott, Jordan Bullershawn Robinson, and I mean those guys
have all been banged up throughout this first half. I
mean Jenavian Clowney, Dame Jackson, dj Watam, three guys they
brought in who didn't have familiarity with the system have
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also been banged up. This is a papers in starting
defense to begin with. But when you lose guys like
Derek Brown in Game one, and Shack Thompson in Game three,
and Josie Jules after three games, Jaavian Clowney's out for two,
and the list goes on and on, it's kind of
hard when you've got a bunch of guys who are
probably better off on practice squads than in starting line ups.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
So the Broncos from the running back standpoint, they are
trying to rebuild that room. But there is someone that
is familiar with that North Carolina area, and that's Deelil
McLoughlin and Jeli reminds me of Darren Spros when I
played against Sean Payton's New Orleans Saints. No One as though,
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there's the Carolina Panthers are coming in and looking at
that connection, hometown connection. What have you seen from je
Them McLoughlin that might have impressed you?
Speaker 7 (22:03):
I mean, he is fast. I agree with the Scrolls take.
I mean I covered Darren in Philadelphia even when he
was in his mid thirties, I was still the quickest
guy on the field. Look, I think he likes to
get out in space. I think he's a threat between
the tackles, outside the tackles, can catch the ball cleanly.
I think he's got that underdog kind of grit to
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him too. I mean, this is the guy who in
middle school was sleeping in his mom's sports focus, was
under noticed as a high school college recruit, then when undrafted,
and I think he is a really good compliment with
Javonte Williams. Oh And, by the way, the Panthers can't
stop the fun to say their lives. It's been the
crux of Everro's two seasons in Charlotte, and I just
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I think he and Williams are gonna have a big game.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
On some of it. Well, I want to talk with
Mike k again for the Charlottes are the problem there
is that you have an unused object against a very
movable force in that Sean Payton, for whatever reason, sees
that running wins football games for this Denver Broncos team
and then proceeds to try to have Bonnicks throw forty
five passes instead at or around the line of scrimmage.
I'd be right there with you if I had any
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confidence this team would stick with the run. One of
the three best teams in terms of success rate when
they run the football, they just don't do it. What
is the outside perception of the Denver Broncos as a
football team in this coaching staff specifically, I mean.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
I think it's an up and comer. I mean, I
think Sean Payton has a lot of respect at least
from the NFC South, where he won a Super Bowl,
was pretty successful in playoff appearances and has a long history.
He remember there were rumors about him having interest in
the Panthers job, and I will tell you fans were
excited about that potential.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I think from a.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Rockster standpoint, I think it's a middle in depth chart.
But I think coach good coaching and stand out guys
like McGlocklin who's developing really well, helps the kind of
perception of Litten. This AFC West is somewhat wide open,
the AfD is somewhat wide open in the playoff picture.
They can make a run.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
With everything that's happening with the Carolina Panthers. And I
don't want to call it dysfunctional, but when you look
at four straight losses.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
In a row and they're averaging.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
From a defensive standpoint, and it may not just be
all defensively, but they're giving up at least thirty points.
What's the hope and what's the game the Panthers are
hoping to achieve on Sunday? Because in any given game
there's a possibility that you can win. But you're trying
to walk away from a coach's standpoint and say, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Well we can hang our hat on this.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
And if there was one thing, what if anything, cause
the Panthers say that they can hang their hat on.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Yeah, I mean to go back. Also, I say the
AFC West is wide open. I mean the three teams
under the chiefs excuse me, all right, to get the playoffs.
But what I would say is, look, because the Panthers
have been outscored one seventy to ninety seven in their
last five games. They've lost four straight. They haven't looked competent.
I mean, I think competent football. Look sometimes those are
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just better. Is It's kind of like the bar, right,
I mean, I think you want to see Bryce Young
do some good things after being benched for five weeks.
I think you want to see the defense be able
to actually tackle. For one, I think if you can
see some development within the system within some guys who
are lower on the depth chart. I think that's a
win for them, but this is going to be a
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tough matchup for them.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Is Bryce Young going to be a Carolina Panther next year.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
The way it's trendy, No, I just don't. I don't
see a road to where this is redeemable because if
you look at it Monday, Sunday and Monday. I know Ben,
I know you follow this Sunday and Monday. Dave can
Alice said this is about Andy Dalton is enough playing
lebroncos he has routinely said that Andy Dalton gives them
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their best to win. Well, they've lost tour straight. What
does that say about right show? And I think he
wouldn't have been able to make Fricion wouldn't be playing
this week if Eddie Dolton didn't get into a minor
car accident and hurt his throwing some like that's the
reality of the situation. They have a few more winnable
games or at competitive games up on their schedule before
the bye week, and then after that it is a
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murderer's row of playoff defenders. I just don't know if
Rice doesn't get back on the field after this game
where he is still equipped, how he comes back for them?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, that's that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And then I wonder you know where he goes for
the rehabilitation. I guess we'll see you know how that
how that works out, how it works out for the Panthers. Mike,
look forward to seeing you up in the press box
this weekend.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I appreciate you, Bud, thanks for having guys yep by.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Case Charlotte Observer. Why should the Broncos be worried about
the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
I struggled to think of a reason, to be honest
with you. They have an injury report that has eighteen
statuses on it and tended to that are outer doubtful.
They're starting Bryce Young, who has looked futrade in this
first two games. You want to look for one threat,
it's the Chuba Hybrid Express just running through that defensive front.
But even then, I don't know if it'll be enough.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I'll put you this way, if you buy the line
up to twenty and a half Rocks laid twenty and
a half, it only gets you to plus two fifty three.
That's hilarious. That is that is an absurd number. Buying
up to twenty and a half and you only get
plus two fifty three.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I know I said earlier there was no guarantees, but
two death and taxes.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
There might be a third one death.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I'm thinking that this could be a third one, especially
speaking to someone who covers the Panthers, because right now,
looking at the Panthers the current situation Andy Dalton, who
probably gave.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
The Panthers an opportunity, he was the best quarterback, and
they're still losing ten to forty every game.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
What were the odds that he somehow gets in a
car accident. Yeah, God bless the fact that both he
and his family are okay, but he injured a finger
on his throwing hands, so.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
He cannot play this game.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Now the Panthers are forced to go back to Bryce Young,
a guy that it's obvious that Dave Canelis doesn't want,
but he's out there and I know Bryce Young wants
to prove that he can play in this league, but
once again he's not being set up for success because
Deontay Johnson not playing, Adam Thieln not playing. So this
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is just bad. I just I feel bad for Bryce
Young I truly do, because being drafted by the Carolina
Panthers has.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Done nothing for his career at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I mean, you've got starting offensive lineman out Taylor Molten,
you got Todby Tremble, who's hurt, a adult obviously hurt,
Deontay Johnson who's hurt.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
On the defensive side, Ayshan Robinson, Josey Jeweler hurt.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
And you can go down the list in terms of
the ir that they have, in terms of their good
players that are that are all out. It's just a
The funny part about it this year is we just
got through playing a team that was banged up, but
at least they were good when they started.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
This team. The Panthers were not good at all. Now,
in all fairness, let me back up for a second.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
The Raiders did beat Baltimore and Carolina did beat the Raiders,
and everyone started to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
But that seemed like it was I don't.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Know, six years ago, right, Yeah, And I mean you
wearing an army shirt. So the first thing I started
thinking about when you ran off that list of guys
questionable with injury.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
It's a freaking mass unit.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, It's like it's just like the Saints last week,
who had you know, forty guys that were all hurt
to some degree, except the Saints were good when they
when those guys were healthy.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
The Panthers aren't even good when these guys are healthy.
And think about the.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Week before that, you had a Santi Samuel Junior who
was on IR who's out four games, and Joey Bosa
didn't even play in that game. Yeah, I still on
to I go back to that, that's the game that
the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Should should have won, should have won. You look at you.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I mean it's it's been the Broncos been fortunate to
play some pretty bad up teams. They gotta win over
the Bucks when they were pretty banged up. I mean
they were missing what six starters on defense.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Hey look man, you'll need play who's on the game
you play with the friend the Broncos fault.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I'm just saying they've gotten pretty fortunate with that, and
that's helped them out to this four and three four
and three records so far, because I think that there
are some games that got away from them that that
shouldn't have I think you should have won the charge
of game. I think you should have won the Steelers game.
You got lucky with the Jets that de Zerline missed
the field goal.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
So so you're suggesting that maybe I should or Broncos
Country should I don't know, predict hope wish knock on
wood that the next two opponents, the Baltimore Ravens and
the kan City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I don't know me have some injuries over the next
two weeks.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
If Lamar Jackson and Pat Maholmes were to suddenly eat
some McDonald's hamburgers and get a little tummy ache from it,
I wouldn't be mad.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Well maybe, uh, I don't know. You know a lot
of people. Maybe you could send them like, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
The care package or something like that will work something out.
I'll see what I can do and.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Like like Chad Ochusingle used to do when I played,
send then the bill.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Everybody because they gotta get sick or whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Who was Who is the receiver that used to h
mumble the girlfriend's phone numbers to him?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Who remember this? I'm trying to remember who it was.
I want to say it was fred X, but I
could be wrong on that. You know what it was
one of those receivers was Who's like like he would,
and he would. He would repeat you find out that
the who he's playing it.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
We could be lined up against find their girlfriend's phone
number somehow, that's all like something Chad would do, and
then repeat their phone number to him. He just over
and over, so he's lined up next to him, just
repeat the phone number.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
That would have the adverse effect on me, right, It
wouldn't make me get so disjointed where I couldn't play it,
piss me off so much that I'm driven to.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Get you, to get you to ship the hell up,
make it mad enough to flip over a gatoray table, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Throw down a sideline, a sidelight chain gang worker, just sho,
I just try to do his job.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Fingers mustache, Yeah, sit over there with the waxed handlebars. Man,
just run on the cue.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Just why we were putting this thing together.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
This is why we made him the Hulk.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
He tried to question that at first, when we said
we were the Avengers.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
He tried to question it first. But the Hulk.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
That's what it takes to turning the Hulk one time
and you're the Hulk.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
No, I mean at some point he calms down, right
and he goes back to being Bruce Banner.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
But you're with just one goat.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Everybody knows what I'm talking about right now, call me McGregor,
the Bridge pillow.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I know they don't. We gotta take commercial break. We'll
be back.
Well do it Broncos Country tonight. But with all Brian
Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith, no rally fingers mustache.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I thought maybe he'd come in and try it.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Maybe maybe given one time to Nick Ferguson pointing out
that the waxed mustache.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
But no, if Nick Ferguson is not going to grow
his beard back out on anything with my facial that
is one hundred percent fair.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Why does this all hinge on me growing back my face?
You're hair? Hey, I'm just saying, ask your wife. You're
the only one here who could grow the cool beer.
So you're you're mean right, First, Let's be totally honest.
Each one of us test all testosterone.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Driven men could actually grow a beard, maybe some lot
full of than others.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Just looks like a beards so much as it looks
like I have the main No. I mean if you were.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Dedicated to it, yeah, and you pushed through it like
I did to get through the itchy.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Paz, you too can. I mean, look look at grand
space you can be there. That can be that without
the thickness of the mustache.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I guess a week old like for me, it just
grows out to a certain point and then it just stops.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I guess it looks like.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
That kid that just starts growing facial hair and high
school and has to.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Grow it out. Yes, because it looks cool, but it
really looks really bad. This is it. It's always been
like this.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Like that's why I usually electricrazier trimmed down the next
day stubble, because that's what it always looks like. It
just does not get thicker than that.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Well, if you guys are anticipating or waiting for me
to grow back my face your hair, you can forget it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You got what you got.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Noven Beard coming up with lovetails right with Decen Beard.
So I mean, no, I've been there, done that. I
did that for eight years.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'm just still waiting on both of you to join
the mustache gang.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I think we're good five years that nobody. Nobody wants
to see me like that, Like I'm not looking. It
is not a good look for me.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You're gonna be like that guy that people see in
public and they're like, get your kids away from him.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, they're like, that guy's got a fan exactly. He
got a conversion van for sure, not the a team van,
but the spoiler come on, I can't believe that.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
The first thing you tell us, Hey, why don't you
guys just grow mustache?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Some people's faces are not built for the sash, and
this is like, for whatever reason, your face that much
it works.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I never expected to be a mustache man. But I
was just talking to my wife last night. I was like,
I don't think I'll ever shave it. It's just part
of me now. I think Nick would look good with
a nice clean mustache.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
No, no, no, I've seen lethal weapon Danny Glover. I've
seen it. I don't even oh that that I need
a mullet to go.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Just make the thing work, right, I people though, faces
just work with a mustache, right, they Grant Smith, they
work with a mustache.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Oh man, I was watching Friends the other day.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
My wife was watching when I got home from work,
and it was the season where Tom Sellick doesn't.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Have a mustache. Like, that's gonna be me. Now, I
can't ever shave it. How weird does it look? See,
I'm not good.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I can't do that because it's just like me growing
a mustache. You might as well put me on a
bolo police alert.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Like that's what I just I looked. Oh, I thought
you're gonna say you're join in on Bolo tie Thursday too.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No, that's no. Be on the lookout. No, I don't
want to do that. Last night, Nick suggested that the OKAC.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Thunder we're going to give the Nuggets hole they could handle,
and they certainly did.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I mean, listen last year when we had VK on yesterday,
I said to BK, I said, well, last year, if
you look at the two meetings the OKC Thunder, they
were two and one versus the Nuggets, and a lot
of those games were tight. But the problem was SGA.
Who was gonna stop him? Right because last night, wherever
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you wanted to get on the floor, he got to
his spot.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
And then the idea of.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
The defense specialist, you know, KCP is not here, so
it's gonna be Aaron going And I don't know if
you saw it, but it was at the top of
the key.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
He like dribble, he switched hands and then he hit
him with the heavy.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Aund.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yes, so right now the Thunder are playing with a
lot of confidence. They don't fear that Denver Nuggets as
all the teams fear. And granted you asked me the
other night bit about the window for the Nuggets. I
think it's going to get to a point where we're
gonna have to talk about the window for the Thunder
because these two teams are on a collision course. And
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what I saw from check Homegrun last night, he was
about that life.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I'm just saying, Hey, I mean he was twenty five points,
fourteen boards, five Assistshi Gildess, Alexander twenty eight points, Shy
had three blocks. That was impressive, eight assists, seven boards.
The Denver Nuggets just couldn't hit from from downtown. Nicola
was doing his thing, and I don't even think you
just had anybody else that felt like they were a
major contributor.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You know, blocks, did Homegrun have four? Yeah? Man, that
one boy, wait.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
With the one on the joker and then he was
like trailing to play and he was slowly coming down
and then all of a sudden he got the bounce
pass and Peyton.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Watson was trying to block the side post rage.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, it was not a great night for the night,
especially shooting for the Nuggets. By the way, that understand
something like thirteen blocks as a team. It was an
absurd number. Uh, And just I think is said Joe
was the only starter who didn't get a block in
that game. So there's a lot of people kind of
panicking out there already. To me, it's just one game
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against a very good team.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You know in the Thunder, you get ten games in
and you're seeing these kinds of problems, then then I'm
starting to hit the panic button.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I'm not hit the pant button after one game.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
No, if anyone is hitting the panic button, it's an
over exaggeration, right, because I know expectation for teams here
in Denver are definitely high, and when you go out
on your home court and you don't play well, everyone
thinks the sky's following. But this is the first game
of the season, and that's that's a good and the
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bad of the NBA season. It's so long.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's like the baseball season.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
You can lose the first twenty games and then come
on on a back end and then now you may
be number one seeds. And let's be totally honest, Ben,
the Nuggets are not going to be a player in
basketball team now. They're not going to be that type
of team.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Speaking of baseball, baseball season, you talked about it being
a lengthy season, it's come to its penultimate conclusions. The
World Series starts tonight, Los Angeles Dodgers, New York Yankees.
We know that you're a big New York Yankees fan, Nick,
So why are the Dodgers gonna beat him tonight?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean, you can say whatever he wants.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
And you know what, this is the epic series. I
think baseball fans were wanted coast, whether you like the
teams or the players or not, because you got big
city versus big city right, versus Biggie right right, the
concrete jungle versus palm trees and beaches right, and you know,
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people running on the beach like is they watch? So
you have all of that kind of clashing at one time.
And for me, I wanted to see sluggers like show
Hey go tiny.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Just think about it.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
As many years as Shohey has been in baseball, and
he was with the Angels at one point, jump to
the Dodgers. Now he's in the World Series. So you
got Juan Soto, you know, you got Ama Judge, you
have John Carlos Stanton and that hitting versus the pitching
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of the Dodgers is no matter who wins, man, it's
going to be epic for baseball fans.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Well, yeah, I think it's I mean, it's two major
markets and all that kind of stuff. There are a
lot of in between cities. The flyover cities are a
little disgruntled, you know, calling it an East coast West coast,
you know series and all that kind of stuff. But
is this does this have the potential to be the
type of series that reignites things for the sport? Baseball
has been a fairly long suffering sports since the strike
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back in the nineties when football and basketball overtook them
and never looked back.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Does this have the potential to beat Laker Celtics. Yes
it does.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Now if it's kind of like a sweep or one
team wins one game, I'm gonna say no.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I mean, if you push it to the limit where
you getting to the last game, right, your last.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Game to me, that's when it becomes truly epic because
now you got the story, franchise, the different players, Pitts, Babe, Ruth,
all of that.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know, we get a chance to sit back and
watch on phone. This is one of this. This is
kind of good and.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
The bad about you know baseball and the NBA where
they have multiple games that you can kind of stretch
this out and you can really build it up. And
this is definitely one of those series that the MLB
can actually build up.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
The same world. Serious. I mean, obviously you've got your
team in it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
We're wearing your Yankees hat right now, a top of
your Btanzie therapy hoodie. I welcome back today a Broncos
fashion country tonight.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I but is this appointment viewing?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Would it be appointment viewing for you if it was
the Astros and the Dodgers. No, So it's because you're
you're watching, but because you're well.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Because not just because the Yankees are in it, but
just the story tradition behind the two franchises. If you
were to go from the you can go from the
guys who were the managers to the guys who were
the players, to the guys who were calling the game,
like the Dodgers Vince Gully me Baseball one to watch
(09:26):
and to listen to.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
This Gully is no longer with us, but you just.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Kind of envision, like, how will you called this particular play?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Right, Let's say Mookie Bets hits.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
A double, a triple of home run, how would he
call it? So there's so many facets to this game
that if you're the Baseball commissioner, you could not have
written a bigger story. Because I know some people in
New York who I know who are both Mets fans
and Yankees fans. Some of them were hoping for a
subway series, and I'm like, we've already seen that. I
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don't want to see that. I want to see those
teams duke it out.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Well, you're talking about the history of the Yankees and
the Dodgers. They faced off eleven times in the World Series.
I mean, just think about that, eleven times against each other. However,
this is the first time in forty three years that
they're going to be going head to head for the title.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
So this is a new generation of fig Nite, the
rivalry and all that kind of stuff. I'll probably watch
it in passing.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I mean, to be honest with you, baseball is so
off my radar most of the time.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well, well, let's be totally honest.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
There's so many things that are off your radar unless
you play in a video game where you're just running
the front.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, those are all off my radar, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
No, I mean, but baseball it is like, it's so
far up. There's so many other things I prioritize before
I'm even watching that.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And I'm watching you know, I'm watching college football.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I'm watching basketball, watching college basketball.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Okay, it's October, right, Baseball are October for this moment.
It was built with this moment, right, Like for me,
there's so many games in baseball. I don't watch the
first I don't know forty games, yeah, right, But after
All Star I started tuning in. That's when it starts
to get really serious. And just is this something unique?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
If you own a text line, if you think I'm crazy, whatever,
or you you're a fan of it, just hit us
up with let us not, because once again, it's something
different about October baseball opposed to the beginning of the
season that is so electric and this is going to
be one of those epics series once again.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Well, somebody from the nine seven zero points out the
thing that I was about to point out, which is
the epic money versus epic money. These are the top
two payrolls in b are two of the three top
three payrolls, and the Mets were obviously the other one
three hundred and three million dollars for the Yankees two
hundred and forty nine million dollars for the Dodgers. And
I say that as somebody who came up as as
a long suffering Royals fan. Who is you know at
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their payrolls twenty first in the league. In fact, for
a long time there for the Royals. They're good players.
They were almost a de facto farm system for the
for the Yankees, because when the players got good, they
couldn't pay them anymore, and the Yankees would come along
and just buy them.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And so that's that's.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Sort of Do you like the fact that baseball doesn't
have a salary cap that the teams can just buy
the best team?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I mean, if you have the money, go ahead and
do it, like Stybrenn has tried it for years. And
did the Yankees have like the best of the best players?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Did it always mean that they won a title? No,
but they were always in the think of it. And
it's funny that you bring up the Royals several years
back when you look at the rose payroll for the
Dodgers and the Yankees, like, over the years they won
a title, Yeah, they won a title.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
They did twenty five years without breaking five hundred they
finally won one. Yes, right right right?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
So you you the idea is that you spend money
for titles what you do. But on the off chance,
if you have a great farming system and you can
evaluate talent, there's a possibility that you put yourself right there. Now,
does that mean that that's guaranteed? Absolutely not, the only
thing that's guaranteed in life. As I was told as
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a kid, death in taxis that's about it.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Well, and the Rockies thinking the Rocky hold on the
Rockies right here on kill the Rockies by the way,
for those curriers have a middle of the pack payroll.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
The a one hundred and forty.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Two million, little over a hundred forty million, which would
be sixteenth, just right there at the In the media
and in terms of payroll.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
There was all show there's a story this week. I'm
sure you got from Patrick Sandres.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I saw the players that are looking to get rid
of it.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I'm like, why you finally started getting some calendar.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
You're gonna You're just gonna ship them off. We suck again.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
See some teams do that just so they can say
they hit the reset button and start all over.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
So now maybe the fan basic.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Okay, Well, they're taking a different approach, a different vision,
and it's still to me that that means you're still
trying to keep the fan.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Base on the hook. For me as a fan, if
I see that the team is.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Not doing everything they can possible to make the team better,
even if that meant been that you have to pay
a luxury tax if you in basketball, so be it right,
But are you really committed to winning? And that's been
the question mark around here as it pertains to the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So I was wondering about their report.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Saunders said, the plan the team lands a lower payroll
with an expectation that they will shop second basement. Breton
Rodgers left, he starter, Austin Gomber and righty started Cal
Quantrill three of.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
The bright spots that this team had.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's a frustrating turn of event for Rockies fans as
they get two consecutive seasons of one hundred losses while
they enjoyed encouraging step forwards from Tolio, Breton Doyle, Tovar,
Ryan Felder, Nolan Jones had a good season two years ago.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You hope you can get back to that.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And Charlie Blackman retired and you're saying you're gonna trade
away three of the better players that you have.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Okay, so and what are they gonna get back? We
all saw what they didn't get for Nolan Aronano.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
If the Rockies management were telling me they're going to
trade those players for pitching, right, maybe that might be
somewhat of an idea, because you're not getting pitchers to
come in, Like I think a couple of years ago,
I think Dick Monford was talking about so he was
to ask a question about Garret Cole, who pitches for
the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It's like, why are you not going after Garret Cole?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
And he was just like, well, we kind of know
me paraphrasing that we can't get those types of players.
So since say no, they can't get those types of players,
you now have to trade for them or you have
to draft and develop.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
And the Rockies formerly is not even close to the Dodgers,
They're not even close to Arizona Diamondbacks.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, so why don't you keep your good players and
then try to add to it?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
What do I know? I'm just some guy. We got
hit a break, we come back, Mike k He's going
to join us. Talk a little bit about the Panthers
litener Broncos country and I don't care.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Why going right out to the KWA Common Spirit Health
hotline and bring our guy Mike kay at Mike Underscore
e underscore k on Twitter. I refuse to call it
X covers of Panthers The Charlotte Observer, Mike, how you doing.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
I'm well, how's it going, guys?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Going pretty well? I'm trying to think of the nicest
way to say this. The Broncos have circled.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
This game as a very wittable game, and the Broncos
are not exactly a team anybody's sitting here calling a
Super Bowl favorite. Why should the Broncos be worried about
the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
I struggled to think of a reason, to be honest
with you. They have an injury report that has eighteen
statuses on it, and ten of those are outer doubtful.
They're starting Bryce Young, who has looked futurd in this
first few games this season. They benched him. They've openly
said that eighty Dalton gives them a better chance to win.
(16:47):
I guess if you want to look for one threat,
it's the Chuba Hubbard Express, just running through that defensive front.
But even then, I don't know if it'll be enough.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
So when you look at the fact that there are
a couple of players, Gionta Johnson, he's not playing, and
now you can have the conversation on whether that is
because the team is protecting Johnson or they're looking to
trade him.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
But no Adam Thiela. So where does the offense come from?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
You mentioned Trouper Hubbard, but it's gotta be a little
more offense than that if you're gonna play against the
differ Broncos.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Here Leget, the first round pick, started to bloss him
a little bit over the last month or so. He
had a rough game against the Commanders, but they like
what he's able to do in the open field. He's
gonna jump all threat He's a big body. Jatavian Sanders,
the tight end from Texas. He started to kind of
developed into a possession weapon. Miles Sanders is a guy
(17:42):
who has kind of been forgotten about, but he can
make plays in the passing game like there are weapons.
But this is not going to be m Kansas City Chiefs.
This is not going to be the Detroit Lions. This
is not gonna be the Philadelphia Eagles. This is going
to be a team that is struggling not to go
in last in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Talking to Mike Kay from the Showott Observer, Mike, how's
my guy Dave doing out there? Canal's take it over
as a head coach. Now, you guys have been through
a few coaches, you know, fairly recently. How has Dave
Canal's adjusting to it? What does it look like under
him in terms of trajectory.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
Well, I think he's learning right. I think this is
a situation where he comes in after one year of
being and OC, and now he's the head coach, the
offensive coordinator, the quarterback coach, and the spirit leader all
in one. I mean, it's a lot to take on.
He's kind of taking it head on, and I think, look,
this has been a humbling experience the first seven weeks,
(18:38):
especially for a guy who's incredibly positive. But I think
he's trying to see it through. I think he's in
sync with the front office, which was something that I
think the previous regime kind of lacked. And you know,
I mean I think he's trying to develop. I think
he's in a similar vote to when you have a
rookie quarterback and he's just kind of learning the job
(19:00):
the Goos.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
When you look at the Denver Broncos from from your
side and you look at the offense, because the offense
has been struggling until that Thursday night game, how do
you guys in Carolina look at bo Nicks in the offense.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
I think, similar to my point of how Dave tanal
Is is, Goo Nicks has upside. He's athletic, he's got
great traits, but he's still learning. He's kind of like
when you see like a birthing video of a giraffe,
right like, he's kind of moving around. He's he's athletic,
(19:37):
he can do certain things, but it's not all there yet.
And I think you know, for Igor everro it's an
opportunity to kind of take advantage of the fact that
you have a bunch of no name personnel who haven't
really been able to you haven't been able to study
if you're an opposing team, and maybe he creates a
plan that can stop.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Nixed Tyler Mike kay Hell the Charlotte Observer, Mike, as
we look at the Panthers, you guys also have a
Jero Rivero there on the defensive side. Got some interviews
this past cycle. It had been trending upwards for him.
But you look at the defense he's year, and of
course a lot of that can be attributed to attrition
and injury and all that. But the shine seems to
(20:18):
have come off of Geral rivera a little bit. What
is that the case there locally or is that just
a national maybe misperception.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Well, I think there's a little bit of that, but
I would also say the contact is key with this.
So the Panthers doubled down on their investment in Bryce
Young by going heavy and offensive free agency, which then
let the neglect on defense. Brian Burns sus famously traded
Frank you Mouu signed elsewhere, even though they wanted to
have him back. They brought in guys that he was
(20:47):
familiar with, and Josie Jewell and James did sorry Josie Jewell,
Nick Scott, Jordan Bullershawn Robinson, and I mean those guys
have all been banged up throughout this first half. I
mean Jenavian Clowney, Dame Jackson, dj Watam, three guys they
brought in who didn't have familiarity with the system have
(21:07):
also been banged up. This is a papers in starting
defense to begin with. But when you lose guys like
Derek Brown in Game one, and Shack Thompson in Game three,
and Josie Jules after three games, Jaavian Clowney's out for two,
and the list goes on and on, it's kind of
hard when you've got a bunch of guys who are
probably better off on practice squads than in starting line ups.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
So the Broncos from the running back standpoint, they are
trying to rebuild that room. But there is someone that
is familiar with that North Carolina area, and that's Deelil
McLoughlin and Jeli reminds me of Darren Spros when I
played against Sean Payton's New Orleans Saints. No One as though,
(21:53):
there's the Carolina Panthers are coming in and looking at
that connection, hometown connection. What have you seen from je
Them McLoughlin that might have impressed you?
Speaker 7 (22:03):
I mean, he is fast. I agree with the Scrolls take.
I mean I covered Darren in Philadelphia even when he
was in his mid thirties, I was still the quickest
guy on the field. Look, I think he likes to
get out in space. I think he's a threat between
the tackles, outside the tackles, can catch the ball cleanly.
I think he's got that underdog kind of grit to
(22:25):
him too. I mean, this is the guy who in
middle school was sleeping in his mom's sports focus, was
under noticed as a high school college recruit, then when undrafted,
and I think he is a really good compliment with
Javonte Williams. Oh And, by the way, the Panthers can't
stop the fun to say their lives. It's been the
crux of Everro's two seasons in Charlotte, and I just
(22:51):
I think he and Williams are gonna have a big game.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
On some of it. Well, I want to talk with
Mike k again for the Charlottes are the problem there
is that you have an unused object against a very
movable force in that Sean Payton, for whatever reason, sees
that running wins football games for this Denver Broncos team
and then proceeds to try to have Bonnicks throw forty
five passes instead at or around the line of scrimmage.
I'd be right there with you if I had any
(23:14):
confidence this team would stick with the run. One of
the three best teams in terms of success rate when
they run the football, they just don't do it. What
is the outside perception of the Denver Broncos as a
football team in this coaching staff specifically, I mean.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
I think it's an up and comer. I mean, I
think Sean Payton has a lot of respect at least
from the NFC South, where he won a Super Bowl,
was pretty successful in playoff appearances and has a long history.
He remember there were rumors about him having interest in
the Panthers job, and I will tell you fans were
excited about that potential.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I think from a.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Rockster standpoint, I think it's a middle in depth chart.
But I think coach good coaching and stand out guys
like McGlocklin who's developing really well, helps the kind of
perception of Litten. This AFC West is somewhat wide open,
the AfD is somewhat wide open in the playoff picture.
They can make a run.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
With everything that's happening with the Carolina Panthers. And I
don't want to call it dysfunctional, but when you look
at four straight losses.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
In a row and they're averaging.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
From a defensive standpoint, and it may not just be
all defensively, but they're giving up at least thirty points.
What's the hope and what's the game the Panthers are
hoping to achieve on Sunday? Because in any given game
there's a possibility that you can win. But you're trying
to walk away from a coach's standpoint and say, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Well we can hang our hat on this.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
And if there was one thing, what if anything, cause
the Panthers say that they can hang their hat on.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Yeah, I mean to go back. Also, I say the
AFC West is wide open. I mean the three teams
under the chiefs excuse me, all right, to get the playoffs.
But what I would say is, look, because the Panthers
have been outscored one seventy to ninety seven in their
last five games. They've lost four straight. They haven't looked competent.
I mean, I think competent football. Look sometimes those are
(25:12):
just better. Is It's kind of like the bar, right,
I mean, I think you want to see Bryce Young
do some good things after being benched for five weeks.
I think you want to see the defense be able
to actually tackle. For one, I think if you can
see some development within the system within some guys who
are lower on the depth chart. I think that's a
win for them, but this is going to be a
(25:33):
tough matchup for them.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Is Bryce Young going to be a Carolina Panther next year.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
The way it's trendy, No, I just don't. I don't
see a road to where this is redeemable because if
you look at it Monday, Sunday and Monday. I know Ben,
I know you follow this Sunday and Monday. Dave can
Alice said this is about Andy Dalton is enough playing
lebroncos he has routinely said that Andy Dalton gives them
(25:59):
their best to win. Well, they've lost tour straight. What
does that say about right show? And I think he
wouldn't have been able to make Fricion wouldn't be playing
this week if Eddie Dolton didn't get into a minor
car accident and hurt his throwing some like that's the
reality of the situation. They have a few more winnable
games or at competitive games up on their schedule before
the bye week, and then after that it is a
(26:21):
murderer's row of playoff defenders. I just don't know if
Rice doesn't get back on the field after this game
where he is still equipped, how he comes back for them?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, that's that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And then I wonder you know where he goes for
the rehabilitation. I guess we'll see you know how that
how that works out, how it works out for the Panthers. Mike,
look forward to seeing you up in the press box
this weekend.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I appreciate you, Bud, thanks for having guys yep by.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Case Charlotte Observer. Why should the Broncos be worried about
the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
I struggled to think of a reason, to be honest
with you. They have an injury report that has eighteen
statuses on it and tended to that are outer doubtful.
They're starting Bryce Young, who has looked futrade in this
first two games. You want to look for one threat,
it's the Chuba Hybrid Express just running through that defensive front.
But even then, I don't know if it'll be enough.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I'll put you this way, if you buy the line
up to twenty and a half Rocks laid twenty and
a half, it only gets you to plus two fifty three.
That's hilarious. That is that is an absurd number. Buying
up to twenty and a half and you only get
plus two fifty three.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I know I said earlier there was no guarantees, but
two death and taxes.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
There might be a third one death.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I'm thinking that this could be a third one, especially
speaking to someone who covers the Panthers, because right now,
looking at the Panthers the current situation Andy Dalton, who
probably gave.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
The Panthers an opportunity, he was the best quarterback, and
they're still losing ten to forty every game.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
What were the odds that he somehow gets in a
car accident. Yeah, God bless the fact that both he
and his family are okay, but he injured a finger
on his throwing hands, so.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
He cannot play this game.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Now the Panthers are forced to go back to Bryce Young,
a guy that it's obvious that Dave Canelis doesn't want,
but he's out there and I know Bryce Young wants
to prove that he can play in this league, but
once again he's not being set up for success because
Deontay Johnson not playing, Adam Thieln not playing. So this
(28:31):
is just bad. I just I feel bad for Bryce
Young I truly do, because being drafted by the Carolina
Panthers has.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Done nothing for his career at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I mean, you've got starting offensive lineman out Taylor Molten,
you got Todby Tremble, who's hurt, a adult obviously hurt,
Deontay Johnson who's hurt.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
On the defensive side, Ayshan Robinson, Josey Jeweler hurt.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
And you can go down the list in terms of
the ir that they have, in terms of their good
players that are that are all out. It's just a
The funny part about it this year is we just
got through playing a team that was banged up, but
at least they were good when they started.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
This team. The Panthers were not good at all. Now,
in all fairness, let me back up for a second.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
The Raiders did beat Baltimore and Carolina did beat the Raiders,
and everyone started to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
But that seemed like it was I don't.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Know, six years ago, right, Yeah, And I mean you
wearing an army shirt. So the first thing I started
thinking about when you ran off that list of guys
questionable with injury.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
It's a freaking mass unit.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, It's like it's just like the Saints last week,
who had you know, forty guys that were all hurt
to some degree, except the Saints were good when they
when those guys were healthy.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
The Panthers aren't even good when these guys are healthy.
And think about the.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Week before that, you had a Santi Samuel Junior who
was on IR who's out four games, and Joey Bosa
didn't even play in that game. Yeah, I still on
to I go back to that, that's the game that
the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Should should have won, should have won. You look at you.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I mean it's it's been the Broncos been fortunate to
play some pretty bad up teams. They gotta win over
the Bucks when they were pretty banged up. I mean
they were missing what six starters on defense.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Hey look man, you'll need play who's on the game
you play with the friend the Broncos fault.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I'm just saying they've gotten pretty fortunate with that, and
that's helped them out to this four and three four
and three records so far, because I think that there
are some games that got away from them that that
shouldn't have I think you should have won the charge
of game. I think you should have won the Steelers game.
You got lucky with the Jets that de Zerline missed
the field goal.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
So so you're suggesting that maybe I should or Broncos
Country should I don't know, predict hope wish knock on
wood that the next two opponents, the Baltimore Ravens and
the kan City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I don't know me have some injuries over the next
two weeks.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
If Lamar Jackson and Pat Maholmes were to suddenly eat
some McDonald's hamburgers and get a little tummy ache from it,
I wouldn't be mad.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Well maybe, uh, I don't know. You know a lot
of people. Maybe you could send them like, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
The care package or something like that will work something out.
I'll see what I can do and.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Like like Chad Ochusingle used to do when I played,
send then the bill.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Everybody because they gotta get sick or whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Who was Who is the receiver that used to h
mumble the girlfriend's phone numbers to him?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Who remember this? I'm trying to remember who it was.
I want to say it was fred X, but I
could be wrong on that. You know what it was
one of those receivers was Who's like like he would,
and he would. He would repeat you find out that
the who he's playing it.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
We could be lined up against find their girlfriend's phone
number somehow, that's all like something Chad would do, and
then repeat their phone number to him. He just over
and over, so he's lined up next to him, just
repeat the phone number.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
That would have the adverse effect on me, right, It
wouldn't make me get so disjointed where I couldn't play it,
piss me off so much that I'm driven to.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Get you, to get you to ship the hell up,
make it mad enough to flip over a gatoray table, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Throw down a sideline, a sidelight chain gang worker, just sho,
I just try to do his job.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Fingers mustache, Yeah, sit over there with the waxed handlebars. Man,
just run on the cue.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Just why we were putting this thing together.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
This is why we made him the Hulk.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
He tried to question that at first, when we said
we were the Avengers.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
He tried to question it first. But the Hulk.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
That's what it takes to turning the Hulk one time
and you're the Hulk.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
No, I mean at some point he calms down, right
and he goes back to being Bruce Banner.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
But you're with just one goat.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Everybody knows what I'm talking about right now, call me McGregor,
the Bridge pillow.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I know they don't. We gotta take commercial break. We'll
be back.
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