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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Talk a little see you bossle guy, and you well, Neil,
how you doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
How are you guys to that doing pretty well?
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Twenty third ranked? See you, boff six and two. A
little bit of optimism in CU country. I mean, we're
still rocking the one to six record against ranked opponents,
and you know, two big twelve losses is going to
be tough for them to figure it out. But they're
a little bit of optimism in buff Country right now.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, it is. I mean, and I think you know
last year.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
They jumped out the three wins in a hurry, got
up into the top twenty. I think they got it
to nineteen and everybody was excited, no reality said. And
I think this is a lot different this year because
you know, they've beaten They beat a good team last
week in Cincinnati. I'm not saying Cincinnati is a world leader,
but that they beat a good team there. They took
Kansas State down to the wire, and Kansas State is
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a good team. And so I think if you look
at the team, the depth, the players, they've got a
lot of different positions, the coaching staff, the future looks
good for Colorado football. So far.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
You've got an interesting situation on.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Offense again, where you're throwing the ball very well three
hundred and twenty three point nine year passing yards per game,
but once again two hundred and sixty fifth in the country.
They're not running the ball very well, but they've run
the ball effectively.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
In the situations that they sort of needed to.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
At this point, Travis Hunter looks like a legitimate Heisman contender.
I know they're also pushing the shad or portion of this,
but Travis Hunter looks like a legitimate Heisman contender, maybe
even the front runner.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I'm just waiting for somebody to tell me who was
the better college football player today.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
In all honesty, tell me who a better.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
College football player is if it's supposed, if that award
is supposed to go to the most outstanding college football player.
I think the guy that's averaging one hundred and thirty
snatch a game has you know, I don't know, fifteen
pass breakups, three interceptions, second or third in the Big Twelve.
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I think this week in receiving yards, touchdown, all those
things could.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Be a first round draft pick at either position. I
just tell me who a better football player is today,
and I you know, obviously I'm biased.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I covered the University of Colorado went there, been covering
him for a long time. But I'm really curious.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
To know who right now people think.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Is a better college football player than Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, that's That's one of those things that as I
watch and we try to shove a quarterback down.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Our throat, whether it's cam Ward or Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
The only other contender I even see here is Janty,
the running back out of Boise State. And it's one
of those weird years where the quarterbacks are not at
the top even though they you know, the people keep
trying to hype it up and push one down our throats.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
What Travis Hunter's doing is unpresent.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I mean, Janty is having a spectacular year's a running back. Well,
what Travis Hunter's doing is unprecedented.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, we haven't seen it before, not.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
In our lifetimes.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I mean, I just we'd go back to the days
when Sammy Baugh and guys like that were playing play
in both ways.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But we haven't seen this in our list time, especially
at this level.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I mean, we've seen guys that have you know, uh
have played you know, some snaps on the other side
of the ball where they were great defensive players. Champ Bailey.
Champ Bailey played played some some some wide receiver college,
not at this level. Travis Hunter is playing at a
you know, an all conference, arguably All American level at
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two positions, you know, on two sides of the ball.
And and again, you know you hear scouts to say
the guy could get drafted. You know, someone's have to
make a decision.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Do they want him to play dB or wide receiver
because he can play both in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, And that's going to be the fascinating thing.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I think you're more likely to see him be a
full time corner with some wide receiver plays put in
simply because that's the easiest way to do it.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
If you're gonna play both ways in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
But you know, I don't know the money's on the
receiver side, and Travis may elect that he wants to
be that type of player and.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
The team as a whole. You know, you're coming out
back to back.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Wins at Arizona where you drub them Cincinnati a good team,
you beat, you play Kansas State tough. You surprised everybody
you see, just just more than doubling them up.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It's it's been.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The last five games have been pretty good for the
CU team.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And as you look ahead, you're you're at Texas Tech.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You got a Utah team that isn't what people thought,
you got a Kansas team that isn't what people thought.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
In an Oklahoma State game, it looks very winnable.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It's very possible this team wins the next four, wins out.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It's very possible this team is favored in the next
four games. And the TIVA said that six weeks ago
people would have said your nuts, but they could only Yeah,
they could be favored and they could win out. They
could be a ten and two team. And you know,
there's a lot of and we've talked about Shador, Who've
talked about Travis Hunter. I think Shador is one of
the top two or three quarterbacks in the nation. But
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boy throws some credit out to that to the defensive
coordinator who has done a very good job with this team,
drawing up the scheme to match the talent that he has.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, you sort of took the next question right out
of my mouth there, because I was like, how under
the radar is Rob Livingston of the job that he
is doing with his defense because right now from where
I'm sitting, everybody knows who should door standers, as everybody
knows what Travis Hunter is the real MVP.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Here is what Livingston is getting out of that defense.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Oh, I tell you what, They're just light years ahead
of what they were a year ago. They added some talent,
not a ton of talent. They added some good players
on that team. But what he has done. I was
just talking to a guy a couple of days ago
who said, you know, he brought a little bit of
the pro flavor to college ball. And he's done it
because he has a good secondary. And what he's done
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is they play a lot of man demand. They lean
on that secondary to do their work, and that allows
the linebackers to go downhill. That gives them more of
a pass rush, that gives them a better run defense.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
He's done everything by what he knows.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Which is being a DB'ST coach. That's what he did
with Cincinnati Bengals for eight years. He was in the
secondary there, and he's taken that secondary and leaned on
him in a big way and done some things with
them to give the rest of the defense a chance
to make plays. And I don't know if you if
you watch the Cincinnati game close, he's doing.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Things like taking Travis Hunters, taking.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Him into nickel and saying, you're covering that tight end.
You've got one hundred and eighty pound guy, and that's
dripping wet Travis Hunter, one hundred and eighty pounds covering
a big six four to sixty five tight end and
just shutting him down.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
And he's doing that, you know, moving guys around and
doing different things and different at different stages of the game,
making great halftime adjustments and using the talent that he
has and.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Again, very talented secondary. I think, I think they've got
some guys that will go on to the next level
other than Travis Hunter. But he's taking those guys and
he's crafted the defense that can attack, can take some chances,
get out of the quarterback and do things like that.
And I promise you that people are looking at Robert
Livingston and going WHOA, who's that guy?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I would not be surprised to see if he his
name gets some elevated recognition, possibly even some head coaching interviews.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Here at what he's done in you know, sort of adapting.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
The scheme to this defense because last year it felt
like they were running a scheme that just did not
fit what they had, and it feels like they've really
kind of rounded the corner on that this year. As
we look at the conference as a whole, that lost
to Kansas State really hurts because you got Iowa State,
BYU Kansas State sitting there, and you know that Kansas
State game looked winnable. BYU has managed to in Iowa
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State really has managed to play incredible football this year.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Is there an.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Outside chance the Colorado wins out here, they get some
help along the way, maybe maybe they sneak in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Here, there's an outside chance, but you're really gonna need
some help because to get into to get into the
Big Twelve champion, you have to get into the Big
Twelve championship to get to the playoffs, would be my guess.
I mean, I don't think they're going to take even
a ten to two team that doesn't make the conference
title game. So if you if you put that into
the equation, they've got to get some help and get
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you know, BYU's got to lose, Iowa States got to lose.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Kansas State has to lose another game, or else they
lose that tie bread to Kansas State.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
So there's a lot of what is and this can
happen and that can happen. You know, we're going to
know more as the weeks go on and as it
ticks down. But right now, I think this team just
wants to win another game. I think they want to
get to seven and two and then maybe eight and
two and then nine and two, ten and two. I
think they want to keep winning and see if they
can at least get to a really nice bowl game
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and then hope things shake out that maybe they get
a break here or there and do get a chance
at the conference championship game.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
What do you say to people speculating about the future
of Prime, which you'd more likely to head to the
NFL after the season? Obviously Travis Hunter out of the
NFL after the season. The situation down there at Florida
State where Mike Morval is about to get run out
of town. What do we when we look at this thing?
Is is Prime really committed to Colorado? He's saying the
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right things, but is he really committed to Colorado?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Is he's really building something long term?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
As we look at some of these people who recently
have flipped commitment to Colorado.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah. You know, the one thing I can say is
with every coach that I've ever covered and never been around,
and you know, you you you know the game as
well as I do, you got to take what you've got,
to take him at their word until they prove you different.
And I don't think I don't think.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Coach Prime has any inkling of leaving right now.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I think he loves the situation. He's there, he's got there,
it's in it. You know, he's he's in the national
spotlight again. He's got Colorado moving, He's got a nice contract.
Uh you know, they can almost redo his contract and
give him more money. I don't think he's I think
he's ready to kind of separate himself from from his
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kids for a little bit because he's been with him
since they were pee wee's, right, you know, he's been
coaching those kids since they were pee wee's. And maybe
he's maybe he wants to take a chance to step back.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And this is a chance, This is a chance.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
For him to do something that everybody said was impots. Okay,
the way he has done it. He is writing a
really interesting blueprint about college football that I admit, you know,
when it first started, I looked at it and said,
who by, that's you know, if you're not going to
recruit thirty high school kids a year or twenty high
school kids a year, and you're not going to bring
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all those kids in, you've got to be really good
in the portal. He's done a pretty good job with that.
It's you know, obviously Travis and Chaudor are the stars,
but if you look around that team, they've got other
guys that are coming up and that are playing very well.
Jordan Seaton's a you know, a great probably the highest
rated freshman left tackle in the nation right now. They've
got guys out on the outside that are playing really well.
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Colton Hood's a good young running back. August Dave and
August Dave and Dalan Hayden are running back, and so
he's bringing in players from other positions and showing that
he can do that. I think I think he wants
to write his legacy there. Really, I really think he
wants to write his legacy at the University of Colorado
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instead of just said Okay, yeah, I'm done here, I'm
going to move on.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
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Speaker 3 (11:06):
Neil, you know I'm with you on that because I
was admittedly insanely skeptical of these you know, travel this
this is portal right, and and you know, but he
seems to have found a way to navigate sort of
the Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I'm creating a culture here while.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Pushing guys out, bringing guys in and and and doing
it through the portal rather than being a high school recruiter.
And I don't know if what he's doing is the roadmap.
I mean, maybe it's maybe it is this Einstein level
way of uh navigating the nil era of college football.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Maybe it's my old school bias that still thinks you
need to have homegrown roots. I don't know, but right
now it looks like that Colorado in a lot of
ways is the epicenter of college football. You know, it's
funny to me to go back and watch the comments
from Paul Finbaum talking about.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
See You being irrelevant. I'm like, well, wait, wait, wait a minute,
wait a minute. They might not make the playoffs, but
they're not irrelevant. They're the most talked about college football
team in the nation.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, And if you look and I think.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I think I think Coach Prime and his staff.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Are learning as they go along too. They're saying, Okay, well,
you know, maybe we do need to get a couple
more guys here. And everybody thinks that the transfers they're
bringing in are all guys that just have one year
left or two years left.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And they brought in several transfers that have you know, two.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Three years, and some of them have four years left.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
And so they're they're plugging in players where they think
they can plug them in, finding guys that can play,
and bringing them in, and so it's not all just
one undone guys that.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Are coming in, if that, guys that have two or
three years. And I think I think as they go along,
you're figuring this out. And I think a guy like
Robert Livingston is looking at this and saying, Okay, this
is how we can do this. We can bring this
guy in. Now I've got two guys here that I
can play at corner for the next two or three years.
Now I've got a couple of defenses, like I've got
some linebackers. And so I think I think they're they're
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figuring it out as they go along. A little bit too.
And I think they're tweaking the formula or that you'd
want to say it. But I do think coach Prime
looked at this and.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
And you know, okay, money is not.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
It's not going to be his driving force. Just I mean,
I don't if you watch TV, he's doing enough commercials
to pay the bills.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Right right, Yeah, that's so I think, you know, I
think I think I think he would like to.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Be the guy that said, look, look what I did
at Colorado, which is a dead program right. Look where
it was two years ago, it was.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
It's been a relevant since for the last twenty years.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I mean, they've had what one one season or Mike
McIntyre that was worth writing home about since this is
a Barnett era.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, yeah, no, they have it, Yeah they haven't. You know,
they they went to.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
One Bowl game under Hawkins when.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
They finished six and seven. Hawkins lost to some guy
named Saban or something. I think I've heard that guy
before he played Alabama. Yeah, they lost to Alabama. You know,
there's some guy named Saban coaching back then, and that
was his first year at Alabama, and uh, you know,
programs kind of went different directions at.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
That point really a branching off point for both for
both programs.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
You know, what's what what? What is the biggest surprise
for you the season?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
The biggest disappointment I look at for me at probably
the UCF.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Game is probably the biggest surprise.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Biggest disappointment has been the lack of getting the run
game going, but they managed to win without it.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, I think the biggest surprise was probably the way
they dominated UCF. I mean, you know, I'm not sure
how good UCF is that They've played a lot of
people closely. You know, they pushed Iowa State to the end.
They should probably should have beaten Iowa State if they,
you know, had made some mistakes down the stretch. So
the way they went down to Orlando and just dominated
them was was, you know, probably the biggest surprise. I
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thought they had a good chance to win. I didn't
think they win by was the three touchdowns? Four touchdowns? Uh,
the wait, biggest disappointment, you know, I guess you could
say the run game. But what I've what I've been
impressed with these last few weeks is there's sneaking in
enough run game to make people respect it. And I
think Pat Sherman deserves some credit here for the way
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he's done things. He'll he'll sneak in a couple of
tight ends, you know, and play big boy ball for
a few plays, and you know, knock out some runs
and then all of a sudden, then they'll start throwing
the ball. And so that's been an improvement. Uh. But yeah,
I guess if you were, if you were talking, the
biggest disappoint would probably be the run game. But as
long as you whenever you've got Schnor Sanders and those
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four or five six wide receivers, they're just gonna throw
the ball.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, And it's certainly been fun to watch, and uh
certainly continues to be fun to watch paired up with
the defense.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
We mentioned that Robblins is done.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Neil, we appreciate your time this evening, Neil welksubuffs dot com.
We always I appreciate you having you on, Yes, sir,
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