10-31-25 Hour 2 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ween to all of you out there who celebrate him.
All of you don't.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
When's the last time you guys went go ahead, me
and you got kids, so you go trick or treating?
I imagine, Ben, did.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
The kids get candy?

Speaker 3 (00:10):
I don't. I don't know. All right, No, I don't
go trigger treating. I would love to, but we're normally working.
That's fine, that's fair, Yes, but that's.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Weird when a mid forty something guy shows up on
your front porch and the.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
So what do you I'm going through a midlight crisis.
It's your costume. But no, like last year, I took
I took off because it was my son's birthday, Like
today is my son's birthday, So happy birthday. But usually
what we do is our kids collect the candy and
we buy it back from there.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
You buy candy from your kids, Yes, we beat so
they don't get they don't eat the candy.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
No they don't. You eat the candy, No, we don't.
Where does the candy go?

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Well?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
See that that is a mystery in my house because
we put it in certain places, but my kids seem
to find out.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Okay, you know it's a safe place to store it.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
You could you could bring it in here, I will
store it for you know, they will find it.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
That's what I'm gonna do next time. Because ideas that
every kid wants to eat every morsel of candy that
they collect once, yes, at the same time and at
the runner risk of them getting sick or be eating
like a sugar comber.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
The idea is that you pick out.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
A couple of pieces, like three pieces, we buy the
rest from you, right, So that way it helps out
as far as the dental bill.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Can I use that money to go buy more candy? No,
you can't. Would the purpose?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I was just saying, like, yeah, so we didn't like
I was allowed to trick or treat growing up. First
of all, we weren't allowed to have candy. And second,
well my dad believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Waitite, so you were not allowed to have candy. So
when you got to school, did you just kind of
gorge on coacher at that point?

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Homeschool? Okay?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Oh you know, oh yeah, because I did four years
of private school, four years of home school, and then.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Four years public school.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
So I like, yeah, so we were you know, my
dad was for what he claimed for religious reasons, we
were allowed to do Halloween, and then on top of that,
we weren't allowed candy. So the first time I ever
went tri or treating, I was seventeen years old. Were
you wait, wait, wait, you aged out? My friends we

(02:26):
were all like, okay, you've never been triggered treating, and
so they took me trick or treating when I was
actually was nineteen nineteen years So what happened when you.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Walked up to someone's door and ran in the doorbell
and knocked on it and say trick or treating?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I did my friend's little cousin and pretended I was walking.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Uh oh oh, So so you grabbed a little kids
as though you were they were my prop Oh wow,
I think it was like a cowboy too.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I gotta go wow, all about.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Six shooters that man nineteen years old? First time I
trick or treated?

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I don't doubt it for a second. Nick Oh, and
I could see Ben.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
But but Ben being who he is, just saying, you know,
being soft and pathetic and saying, well, this is my
kid or whatever.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
We just trigger treating whatever we could. Could you give
us a little more?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
No, I just pulled the gun out with a candy
in the bag. Now, you got this. I thought I
thought it would be weird being broke. Yeah, what a minute.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
I thought it was like an age limit, like after
a certain point here.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Because apparently if you show up on somebody's portion in
your mid forties with no kid, you're weird.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
So well, all.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Things being considered, Ben, yes, that is highly weird. You
show up knocking on the door solo, no kid in hand,
even if it's a prop.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I'm just saying, no, you can't want some candy, can't
do it for free.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
You go, you go.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
You know, it's a year of the day we had
We had my Cliffs on this program.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
He was promoing his book.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I remember that, and Mike Cliss was like, I can't
remember if he was trigger treating or if he was
handed candy.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
He had kids bringing on his store while we're.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Interviewed, and he's giving candy out all the air. You
remember this, No, I remember, I don't.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Know if you were here. You may not have been
here not I don't remember. But yeah, this is where
one year of the day where Mike Cliff was on
this show. No, I need the address.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Because Mike's giving out two three candy bars to each one.
That's coming by, and he was telling kids to take
more candy. He was hooking everybody up that night. He
was clearly if you want to look on Mike Cliss's block, right.
I was like, Mike, I know we're hear a promo
your book, but apparently you got plenty of money. You're
giving these kids three four pieces of candy pearl.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, think about it.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Every kid knows what house to avoid and which house like, yes,
they give out the best trees, like like you can
give out those bite sized snickers. But in my neighborhood,
there was an older lady sheep. She was like the
candy lady.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
In full bars. Yeah, yeah, you knew, yes, be hitting
her up first. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
They looked real quick with me, like you show up
at my door, I'm taking candy. No, you said, trigg
or treating us a trick, give me a piece of candy.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
But you know what, here's the thing funny.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I'm glad you mentioned that because the whole idea is
trick or treat, right, But even in my neighborhood, no
one ever knows, did any.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah that's the threats.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
The threat is I'm gonna trick you or you give
me a treat and then nobody does.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
So why do we even say trigger treat?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
So you guys are advising people start calling the kids bluffs.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yes, I mean.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Technically speaking, it's trick or treats right, right, that's what
that's what we say.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
So we need kids to be more mischievous. Start, start,
and then I'm saying being a little more creative.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
How about that other than the castle, right, just been
a little more creative to the table, make work for
that kid.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yes, a little slide of hand or something that sounds mischievous.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Why why it has to be. It's not like we're
saying you're throwing a So someone work work for the
candy worked for it. The person who's giving it away,
they worked for it. They approaches it.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
So with anything else in life, you want something bad
for your dollard, Like if you unrelated thing participations Nicky
Nick Ferguson wants his house toilet paper. If you're listening
to this, he's looking for someone to toilet paper.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
He wants spirit.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yes, why is that the case? Because it's called when
you walk up to someone's door, you're not going to
What is it that you say, Zach Segers, trick or treat.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
And I'm saying, what type of trick do you think
they're talking about? Listen, I don't know, but we not
the same kind. You get that on cold No, no
one's talking about No one's talking about that. But the
idea is is in the word.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
If that is the case, then why don't we just
kids knock on the door to say treat, treat.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I get what you're saying. I have seen and their expectations. Nick,
I think you should be careful what you're asking for.
I don't disagree with your premise. I'm saying it sounds
like you're asking for getting generation. They don't want to
work for any titled went to the gentleman's clubs expected
starting anything.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
You got to put some work in first, just saying yes, come.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
On, quick shift of topics here, Brian says, Nick, you
were not on the air the evening we had clush
on the spine.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
You missed it, but yes, that was there. We had that.
We interviewed Mike and Mike was giving out.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Michael was giving Allen, you're telling the kids to take
more candy, and I'm like, bro, what you are the guy?

Speaker 1 (07:25):
You're the guy on the house and everybody knows what
well think about it.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
I mean, you can't take all that candy back into
the house because if you do, as an adult, you
know what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
You're gonna eat it. Yes I am no, but but
you can't. Why not? That's you're consuming too much sugar.
And then the Dentists Association, I have never had a life.
You've never had a cavin not one cavity. Ever. I

(07:57):
don't believe that you feel free. I don't believe that
you know that there was a I read somewhere.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I don't know how true is, but I read somewhere
that it was a dentist who actually came up with
cotton candy, right, because when you really think about it,
it's like, oh wow, cotton candy. But from a diabolical standpoint,
as a dentist, you are increasing your revenue.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
It was that it was a combination of dentist William
Morrison and confectioner John C. Wharton.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Think about that, talk about a repeat business. Well, Listerene
was originally toilet bowl cleaner.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
They couldn't sell it, so they they made up the word.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Wait, wait you say Listerene was a toilet bowl cleaner.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
The stream was originally a toilet bowl cleaner. They did
not sell, so they made up the word halatosis to
describe bad breaths and use it.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
As a refresher talk about being gained by the system. Wow,
they got us. I got it. And then they started
adding uh, the mint flavor to it.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
They suckered. Yeah, well then they didn't, you know, and
then they go mint and evergreen and all that and this.
You know, then it's mouthwashed.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
But the original histery you remember the original history, like
the brown tasted.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
So nasty, it was so gross. Mm you could still
use the new listerine. What do you mean to clean
the toilet?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Probably probably fantic so yeah, yes, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Your breath is smelling minty's fresh, but it was all
meant for a toilet interesting.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
But it's I mean, it's a type of alcohol. So yeah,
I mean that's what you would use it for. You
could still use it for that.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Well, I know, listen, I know some people who use uh,
other types of alcohol and call it mouthwash, but they
don't call the listerine.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh yeah, they call it exact day you.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Listen, you don't have to sell me out on the air.
Like this, I'm like six nine zero the uh there's
the text of people are now asking me what gentlem club?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, that's that's that's why the turky hole quickly pivoted
off of that.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Uh said one A pat from Monuments talking about me
not wanting to row run bow Nicks says, I disagree.
If you're gonna be the big bad dog on the block,
you go right at him, punch him in the mouth
and show who's the toughest or you the top ones.
But there's only one way to find out, and that's
to go at them.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Well what if you're not well, you know, I still
will say I love.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Bow but I'm not deliberately putting bow in a one
on one with his ear.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well you don't have to. You could design it where
he has a lead blocker. I mean, I guess, but
I'm just saying, like.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I'm not how many times if you saw him Peyton,
you would actually call that this week?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Dude, if I had to take some hill back there,
I'd call it four or five times. But I'm not
putting bow Knicks back there to do that.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
But most of his carries when he comes to uh
design chiv runs, they've been outside on a price.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
They do this, you got to sweep or whatever he
has whatever. Yeah, he's all, God, I'm okay with that.
I just, you know, maybe one or two, but I'm
not trying to do that. Defense is so fast. I'm
not sure I'm trying to do that.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Well. The whole idea is to try to set the
defense up, and before you run the RPO play, you
have to give them certain plays to kind of get
them thinking with that what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
They just ran us. Look, amute, ago, what was it
when Risky Agarella was here.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
They were playing against the Raiders and they ran like
a tight end kind of.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Play of the season.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
They ran that tight end buck sweep or whatever it was. Yeah,
and ever nobody was fooled.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Now the Broncos set it up. I say, maybe run
it twice this game on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
I'd like to see some more halfback screens. By the way,
we talked about the screen game and he SPAMSLS wide
receiver screens.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I'd like to see some we have.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
When's the last time we ran a half back screen.
It's been a while.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
I mean the halfback screen typically goes to Marvin Mams,
who's not going to be playing I don't think in
this game.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Right, but R. J.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Harvey could be that guy.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I'd love to see a little half back, you know,
a couple of these half back screens and take advantage
of the speed on the Texas defense.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
You know, when Josh McDaniels was with the Patriots, he
had this one play that I really love. Or they
would run like a double screen, like you know, Brady
were faked to one side.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, man, it was wasn't like the wider screen.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
The wide receiver side was to the field side, and
then you had the like to the right hand side,
you had the uh, the running back would run a
screen like. It was like almost like a play action
because you fake the handoff and then you look like
you were gonna throw it that way, and then you'd
come back and throw it the other way.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
And yeah, it's like, yeah, double screen or whatever.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
One time they they did it was really funky. It
was almost like three screens built into one. Fake to
the left, fake to the right, throw middle screen.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
You can only run it once.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well, yeah, see that again. You know, don't bother with
all the window dressing, just go blow up the Yeah,
and this is what.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Based on what Sean Payton has done from you know,
creativity standpoint, running a lot of those kind of like
orbit sweeps, and to Marvin Mam, there's an opportunity to
build off of that, especially once again with this Texan
defense being so fast. The one thing they want to
do they want to get up field. Yeah, they want

(13:10):
to get up Let's take advantage. Yes, I'm saying I'd
love to see the running back.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Let's get some gun two back going, you know, and
let's let's run some running back screens off that let
them let them guys come through and uh.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
And take advantage of that the over pursuit.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
And this is where running the ball helps out whether
you are affected not with the boot keep game, yeah,
especially this week against this defense.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Right, and we know we're going to see that boot.
We know we're gonna see that little boot whip. You
know you don't talk about that boot.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
To the right with the whip whip 'ro oute right there.
You know we're gonna see that twice this game because
we see it every game. So let's get let's just
start run left, run left, run left, and let's come
back with the screen. Then we'll run left run left
and then we'll get that boot game going.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Anyway, what do I know, I'm just some door on
the microphone.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Do you know what I saw last week which I
hadn't really seen all season a long, And I think
they used I guess, uh Evan Ingram to do it.
Just kind of visualize this. He's on the left side
of the ball, he's off the ball. On the snap
of the ball, he comes back to the right side
and he cuts the backside.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Guy.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, that was kind of one of the staples of
you know, like Alex Gibbs when he was here. When
I played for the Denver Broncos, they would always cut
the backside. And don't forget there was a point in
time where Alex Gibbs was an offensive line coach or
or consultant when Sean Payton was with the Saints briefly.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, so let's you know, you'd hope that that would
get incorporated. I five six six, text line nine seven. Oh,
when I grew up, you had to tell a joke
or sing a song in order to get a treat.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, that seekers. I don't know how old that person is,
but they said they had to.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Tell a uh what it was it a joke or
sing a song.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
A joke, tell a joke or sing a song. How
about that?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Well, trick or treat is give me a treat or
I'm going to trick you, not give me a treat,
or I'm gonna do a trick now, like I'm gonna
do an ally for you. So yeah, apparently back in
his day you had to tell a joke or sing
a song in.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Order to get the treat, like stand up right, existing on, Yes,
you want, you want candy, Let's get some applause in here,
do something?

Speaker 2 (15:19):
All right, let's get a stick and hoop in here too.
If we're bringing everything back to the nineteen hundreds, it
was a fun game. Yes, original atari, Yes, that's what
it was.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yes, I never did that. Do you ever cliped your
cards to the spokes of your bike?

Speaker 3 (15:35):
You know?

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Hoop came after you.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, I'm I'm that old. Yes, of course I let
her be lighted. I flipped on the switch.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yes, you cannot have a bike without getting the cards
and Clippeah. No, no, young singers has no idea what
we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
So it's funny because I started collecting baseball cards, you know,
in the eighties, and nineteen uh and so then my
dad at that point in time, was like thinking about
all the cards that they clipped to the spokes at
Bike and he went back to remember Beckett, you know,
a price guy or whatever. He started looking through and
he's like, dude, I was clipping fifty thousand dollars Mickey
mantles to the spokes of what bike. You were ridiculousous, Oh,

(16:14):
just stupid. And I said one nine love the flipping show,
fellas Flipping. Love it shout out zach Bin and Nick
bring his top tier entertainment on a Halloween. Love it
appreciate I always love the shout outs. We got more
of the show. We come back.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Nine zero is the text line. We were just talking
about the Turkey Hole earlier. Saxe Gers managed to track
that down for us in the Turkey Hole and Sean
Payton gave us that nugget today.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Sean Payton give us some other stuff today too, though.
He sat down as he does every week with our
own Dave Logan and they break down a play for
the coach's corn this week is the Pat Bryant touchdown
against the Dallas cowpel.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
Mix A deep drop, looks left, throws the ball, He's
got Pat Bryant in the corner of the so.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Brian makes a catch touchdown.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Denver twenty four yards.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
So Sean Pat Bryant catches his first NFL touchdown in
that big win at home against Dallas last week. Let's
talk a little bit about that play.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
So, you know, a lot of weeks, we'll have an
empty package, and sometimes you want to decide if you're
going to have a running back involved in the package.
In this case, it was a squadron. We had the
half back to the strong side. Immediately when he's furthest outside.
If a linebacker goes out there, you get a man's

(17:39):
own read and then we usually have three or four
plays in squadron we can get to and so I
think it was second and two, but we got a
shell look and he got to a play that I
would tell you if we practiced that defense versus that play,

(18:00):
ninety nine percent of the throws would go to Sutton
on that bender. And the safety leaned a little bit
off the alley towards Sutton and it left Pat in
that hole. And so when he threw it, I had
no idea where he's throwing the football, and it's so
My point is he I can't recall a rep where

(18:22):
he hit and it was the right read. You know,
there's a conversion by Pat in the turkey hole and
Sutton's bending, the safety leaned, and.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
It was it was. It was a.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
Fabulous read and throw and a really good catch because
it was right at that like if we'd have been
on the nineteen yard line, I don't think I think
it's a complete Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Yeah, So when the ball's in the air, do you
have a one point two second thought of what the hell?

Speaker 6 (18:52):
Yeah it comes up? Yeah, that happened two times in
that game, that play. And then there was a play
we hit Mims on a go ball all right versus
bump and run, and we brought Troy in short motion,
and all week the play is you know, f sail,
it's Troy's play and Mims is clearing. And when he
threw it, yeah, when he threw it, I had that

(19:14):
same like where's he going? And then good job.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
It happens twice, Yeah, all right to Pat.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
And I would say all during the week in practice
that went to that that ball never went to Mims.
And but that's listen, that's encouraging that's vision and kind
of seeing. And so that happened twice in that game.
And and on a good note, both of them were
big completions. The one the Mims that was significant. You

(19:41):
know we were chasing at that point. But Pat's the
same way.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
So you know what I thought was good with with
Pat aside from that's his first touchdown or receivers always
remember the first touchdown. He's a guy that gives you
such good effort. In the running game, we used to
have every aspect used to have a saying called if
if you play in the mud, you're first in lined,
and it was it would Raymond Berry is my receiver coach. Yeah,

(20:08):
and it was his way of saying, listen.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
You got to get in and dig out safety. You say,
if you do, we're gonna take care of it. That's right.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Well, everyone everyone talks about running the football. Well, and
I think you can watch the tape and see who
blocks the force or who doesn't. And now there are
times in RPOs where you don't have to, but ultimately
you have to be able to.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
You have to be able to block the fourth.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
Today we're playing a team that's playing a lot of
quarters and so not cloud and so when it means
their safeties are going to get involved in the run
and man, this how deep is the safety? And tell
me how long i can stay on this corner? And
then I've got to handle these So the splits today
and handling these quarter safeties in the run game and
making making the corners tackle. Making the corners tackle.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
YEP, sounds good. Appreciate the time.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Appreciate you you got to make those corners tackle. Sean
Payton U and now with our own Dave Logan breaking
down the play the.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Touchdown of Pat Bryant in the Dallas game five six
six nine zeros text line.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
I was appreciate you can do. Getting to do those segments.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
That is something that you look at Chris Abrams train
and we wonder exactly how big the gap is going
to be without having pats er Tan in there.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
But one thing I will say about Abram's train, he
is a tackler. He will tackle.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
You know, you go back and you look at the
tape on him, I think he almost plays the position
almost the opposite wist or Tan. Tanda loves to be
in that trail technique and then uses a lettuces and
catch up, make a beats you and to throw it
and make a play. Abrams train likes to play a
little softer off the guy, keep him in front of
and read the hips and then get down and and
make the tackle, and that will allow underneath catches at times,
whereas Sir Tan's kind of takes that away. What have

(21:53):
you seen out of Abram's train that you've liked? What
are you concerned about so far?

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Well, the one thing.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
You do like is the level of experience being forced
into action last season, getting him kind of prepared for this.
But let's just let's not kind of put the cart
before the horse. Even with that experience, it's not a
lot of consistent starting experience, So you do worry. You

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do have some concerns based on the ability to route
or pattern read. And when you think about this offense
from the Texans, they're going to give you a bunch
of personnel groupings.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
And it goes back to communicating.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Being as though you're playing on the road defensively, you
don't have to worry about crowd noise, right, so you're
going to have the ability to communicate. That's going to
be a strong part of it. But I love how
Chris Abrams Drain competes right, He competes at the point
of attack, and he does a great job at the
line of scrimmage. And there was once a Hall of

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Fame corner. You might have heard of this guy who
was a teammate of min named cham Bailey.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Never heard of them.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, he often said that.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
He is he an obscure relative of Boss Bailey.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yes he is, he is. He is related.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
But his whole thing is if you win at the
line of scrimmage with your feet, you limit the amount
of yawds you run down the field. And that is
true Chris Aber's raim. That's the one thing I like
about him, his ability to compete at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
But if there was anything that.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
I would have to say from a coaching point, is
winning on upfield routs consistently. That's not to say that
he can't do it, and we've all been subjected to
a ben but just kind of being consistent.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
And if Nico Collins is playing in this game, then
I think he should coming off concussion.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
You want to know.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Where he's at. I think, yeah, that's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
The other interesting part of this is is the Texans
you know, receivers or whatever.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
You're not gonna have Kirk.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
He may have Collins, but they shouldn't have a deep
stable of receivers. The problem with the Houston Texas isn't
the quarterback I could receive.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
It's the offensive line. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Uh, their offensive line play has been charitably bad for
years now.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
And you know it's not just a personnel thing. I
mean it was scheme.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
A couple of years ago. Bobby Sloan used to when
he was there ZOC. He used to put Rodnie Stanley
I think it was, or who they had was a
Stanley Ard Tunsel I can't remember now. Yeah, they used
to put tunsl one on one, he split to slide
the other four and leave Tunsel one on it. And
everybody knew what they were doing because they do whatever
play and so what you what you wound up having
was teams showing overload to one side. They'd slide to

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that side, those guys woul drop out and then you'd
bring the pressure from the other side. Larrymy Tunseel sitting
there trying to block three guys at once and it
was never gonna happen. So schematically, they've had some issues
over the years now. Kaylee doesn't do that as much.
He's more of a West Coast throwback guy. But it's
gonna be it's gonna be interesting to see. It's as
gonna be interesting to see how they go after Abram's train.
If I noticed certain things on tape, I you know,
for sure to make O'Ryan's and that staff are notice

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it on the tape, and and one of the I
wonder if they're going to spam the hitch against Abram's
train early just because he likes to play off a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
The whole idea has been that you can see subtle
flaws in any player's game. And we're talking about Chris
Abrams Straane versus c J. Stroud, the wide receivers for
the Houston Texans. If you can't get to that read,
if you can't find that receiver and set your feet,
it doesn't make a difference how.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Open he can be.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
He can be over my ten yards if you can't,
if you don't see him and you can't step up
in the pocket and deliver the paths, then that's going
to be problematic. When when you look at this Texans team,
I think it's fifteen sacks on the season, and there
are three games the season, the Rams, the Buccaneers, and
the Seattle Seahawks. They had three sacks on it. The

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one thing that CJ. Stroud does that I like from
a quarterback standpoint. I mean, if it's a sack there,
he's going to take the sack. It reminds me sort
of like you know, Peyton Manning when he played for
the Broncos. He's not going to try to lose a
large amount of yards to put his offense in a hole,
trying to use his leg to scramble now.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Here, trying to throw those quick passes.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
So the Broncos are going to have to be rity
and prepare, especially the linebackers to get into those slant
windows because that's something that the Texas loved to throw,
and that allows a quarterback to get into an instant
rhythm and get the ball out of his hand.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, and for bow that seems to be a key
getting into a rhythm. We've seen him start hot, and
when I say he start hot, I mean the opposite
are starting hot.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I mean he runs hot early in games.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
I can't remember exactly how many of his interceptions have
come in the first quarter.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
I think they call that a heater, right when you
run hot, that's the heater.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
He just looks, he looks like too amped up to
start games, you know what I mean. And like we've
had a number we had what three or four straight
games to free and outs before this pass game where
he doesn't get the three out, but then he throws
then interception, and I'm trying to think he's I know
of at least two interceptions that came in the first quarter.
Would the Dallas game, in the Tennessee game, he had
a he had a first quarter interception. I'd had to

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go back and look at the others, but at least
two of his five interceptions this year have come in the.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
First quarter of football games.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
And that's you know, that's sort of telling you like
he has a little trouble getting into the rhythm and
getting it right early, and then we see these blazing
fourth quarters where he actually is red hot on they
once they get a little tempo and a.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Little tight, well, well think about what you just you're
talking about, right, So in the fourth quarter we're seeing
more up tempo. Now you're forcing Bow to process information
really quickly, diagnose things and get the ball out of
his hands, and early in the early stages of the game,
it's just like, Okay, well, let's kind of get it,
feel for it. I'm like, no, man, forget that. Take

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take that whole game plan.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Ball it up and throw it out of the window.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Because we've seen bo excel when you're putting in the
pressure on him to think and process information fast. So
so you do that because you know that the Texas
playing in the dome, so they're gonna keep the roof
closed to keep to trap the noise inside. So now
you can you go silent count? Can you go quick count?

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And can you go hurry up? Because if you if
you sit there and you do this with doughtical motion,
I mean danil Hunter and Will Anderson.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
They're coming.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, you have to keep those guys at bay and
keep them guessing what is the snap count?

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Right?

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (28:21):
On one on two?

Speaker 3 (28:23):
You have to find a way to slow them down,
especially if on that right side where Mike mcglishy is.
You have to slow those guys down. That's how you
do it.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
And they've got two good edge rushers over there, Will
Anderson and daneil Hunter. Hunter's not maybe had as much
as productive a season as as they would have expected.
But uh, they certainly are very They're very strong, very
fast edge rushers right there.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
The weak part of their defensive line is in the middle.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, it is in the middle. So once again, there's
still ways to attack it. But you can't make it
a constant habit, like when I'm talking about inside traps, right,
get some of those inside traps going, but set it up.
Set it up in a way where you can take
advantage of it. And it may be a couple of
plays ben where you may go to it in the

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first quarter. You may have little to no success, but
don't abandon it because as those big guys start getting
up field, then you can smack across the face. That's
the great thing about the wham play for an offensive player,
but it's bad for a defensive player. You start coming
up field thinking as though you're unblocked. Oh I gave

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you this, dude, the best pass move ever, only to
have some guy come and ear hole you. Right, because
now I want you to do that, and whether you're
successful or not, guess what that's gonna do.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Slow them down, Slow them down.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Taxans are opportunistic on defenses as well. They will come
after you and get the peanut punch going with the
and they have several forced fumbles on the season.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
I think they for four or five fumbles. But the
ends both do it.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
We mentioned Shazier, I mean it's he's lush year and
and m J. Stewart to safety who took over for
Gardner Johnson, has one as well. The other thing that
they do well is they intercept the football. They force
you to make bad passes with that pressure. Jalen p
trade three interceptions on the year. We already talked about
Kamari Lassiter, he's got to Stingley's got two and the
other safety Klen Bullock's got one as well. So they

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they they find ways with that three mans, that three
safety matter, rotation with uh and with those corners to
force you into throws you don't want to make and
then they pick you off.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
And that's that's what we have to avoid.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I can get away, you know, boul gets rid of
the football, doesn't take a lot of sacks, but we
can't have in a game like this is a turnover
or pick six scenario.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
No you don't. And that coach's corner.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
You heard Coach Payton talking about trying to force corners
to tackle. Usually you do that when you have corners
and guys on the edge who are unwilling to tackle,
they kind of shy away from it. These corners, they're
not those types of guys, no, So you want to
be careful with type of run plays you run out

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these guys.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
And I want to give I.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Give credit to players I watch because I mean, that's
what I do. But when you look at this Texan secondary,
these are guys, especially Derek Stingley, right, if you throw
the ball behind like bo did to start out on
that first possession against Dallas, He's capable of taking the
ball to the house. And you gotta remember your defensive neutralizer,

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which is number two defensive player.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Of the year.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
He's not playing in the game, right. So it's gonna
be interesting to see how they adapt. Will they continue
with the Broncos, continue to run what they've been doing
and just Abram trains next man up? Are they going
to try and play it safe with some more like
too high man under players safe for what? Well, I'm
saying like there's a little bit more put Abrams drain
out there on an island.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Esecially, if you got an Eco Collins out there. Man, Hey,
you got a knuckle up sometime. Welcome to Lee, Yes, hotly,
welcome to the league.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Because whether you offensive defensively Sean Payton or Vance Joseph,
someone gets injured to get nicked up.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
In this case, the Broncos new PS two was going to.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Be out, so you could you could you could.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Plan and work with that.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Right.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's not like one of these guys are coming in
mid game. No, so you say, okay, well, we're not
going to change up what we do just because we're
missing the player. We have to go out and do
what we have to do. Now does that put more
pressure on the edge rushers?

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yes, definitely puts more pressure on them to get home
because now you've got guys like that out on an
island and they're going to be up against you know,
the n Eco Collins of the world.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
So, so now you play a little more zone than
you played before so the guys can keep everything in
front of them.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
But this is the for me.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
I don't know how you feel about this, but zone
is a lot harder than man in my opinion, because
man coverage it is just your physical attributes and skills
against another player, I.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Would say, man is more physical and zone is more mental. Yes,
and think about this.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
You've been around a lot of people, right, how many
Let's say if you had a party with thirty people,
what is the chance is that all three of those
people are thinking very logically?

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Oh in nil, all thirty of them are going to
get me arrested? Exactly.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
So now add that to players who may get tired, right,
and ask them to communicate. We were talking earlier about
how the Dallas Cowboys defense did not communicate, right, So
when you play zone coverage, you need every single guy,
all eleven players thinking is one and I can tell
you that doesn't happen. All it takes is one player

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to say to mention these words.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Right. I saw something real quick, and we'll get into
this here in the next segment.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I'm with you on that, Yes, you, communication is absolutely
gonna be vited with that our own crack researcher and
data scientists back there, zach Seers, and we'll get into
this and explain.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
What this means more.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
On the other side. Bote nix is the EPA or
expected points out A per drop back in the first
quarter is a er point oh one two, which is
twenty fifth out of thirty five eligible.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Right in the second quarter he moves up to eleventh.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Right then you get to the third quarter, he drops
all the way back to thirty first, and then the
fourth quarter up to fifth. So there is some sort
of credence to this him getting into a rhythm with that.
We'll break down what that means. We come back Brocos Country. Now,
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