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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Would entail a lot of nakedness.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, when you originally said you know that, I was like,
I'm so there. And then I realized what it was,
and then I'm like, I'm so not there.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well, for those that don't know, since it was audio only,
then actually showed up to my apartment naked for the recording.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Of his in support.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I thought this was what we were doing. I thought
we were naked and not afraid. That was not answered
the door. He did invited me in.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
There wasn't anything to see.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I'm just how did you not have your eyes not checked?
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Again?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm blind, I get I'd see that's.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
What the cat said. It was just hissed at me.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Weird.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh, a lot of stuff going on today. We're gonna
get to to all that here in a bit.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You got Minny Bunsen, you got up. In the next segment,
it's time for a week nine recap, and we're starting
things off with the Ravens at the hapless Dolphins and
Lamal walks over the line. The changes white two on
the Blake Crock claps his hands, gets the snap back
to throw back pedaling, back pedaling towards the ends up top.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
The five fork andrews of the goal line, touch down
Ravens Baltimore's.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
Tight end with his second touchdown grab.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Of the first half.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
That call courtesy of Jason Horowitz. With Westwood one and
Lamar's back, and so are the Ravens playoff chances?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, I'll say they look like they got the road
paved in front of them. Big days from Derreck Henry
and Lamar Jackson two hundred and four passing yards but
four touchdowns.
Speaker 8 (01:41):
I think the Ravens just kind of got the game
going by feeding Derrick Henry and just telling.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Lamar, hey man, just come back, do Lamar type things.
Speaker 8 (01:48):
And I guess it helps that you're playing the Dolphins,
who can't seem to get it going on either side
of the ball.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Okay, I the Dolphins, I mean they're stuck in. I
can't even call it neutral.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
It's just bad.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Till he was talking about Lord, you know, picked up
a bunch of yardage, but no touchdowns, had an interception.
They can't get the run game on track, even though
he Chain was doing all right in that one. Jayalen
Watte was the only thing they had really kind of
going on offense.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't know what to do with this.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
They keep trying to tell everybody that Mike McDaniel is
gonna be the coach, you know whatever. Yeah, he's gonna
finish out the year and pave the way for the
next guy. The Bears at the Bengals, and my goodness,
did this one have a lot going on at the end.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, I'm gonna play both calls for you.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
The high and alert safeties are back deep but unsay
emotions left. They're blitzing. It's picked up Caleb Cruse.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
Middle of the field, lovely catch, picks away the thirty,
lovely twenty clove the ten clover, then zone touchdown.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Bears Williams drops back to throw. Here comes up, blitz
doesn't get home.
Speaker 8 (02:47):
Trug down in the middle of the field, caught c
Loveland at the twenty fifteen ten five touchdown Chicago.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
It's seventeen seconds to.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Those concertseyw MVP. You have Jooniak and the Bengals broadcast
team with w Cky, Dan Hord.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And Dave Lapham.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, the Bengals call is so funny for multiple levels
because they are but.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Also they did not sound the least bit surprised.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, when you've scored eighty points in the last two
games and lost both of them, nothing surprises you anymore
as a Bengals fan.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
By the Broncos have had the complete forteit of taking
on three of the worst defenses I've ever seen this
year between the Giants, Bengals, and Cowboys. The Bengals, Mike go,
I mean that defense isn't bad, it's historically bad.
Speaker 8 (03:32):
Yeah, that Bengals defense is terrible. It makes me want
to come up call out certain defensive players by name.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
But I won't do that. But I'll just focus on
the positive.
Speaker 8 (03:42):
You know, Lovelin just kind of taking the ball down
the middle of the field, just bouncing off of guys
and it seem as though he wanted to tug more
than the Bengals defense. One at the stop. And now
once again, what does this say about Kayla Williams and
Ben Johnson. I think it says that if things keep
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training in this direction, they stay healthy, they can make
a lot of noise.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I agree. I think he's growing up. I think Caleb
Weeve's growing up in front of our eyes. Took him
a little bit, but I think he's growing up front
of ours. We'll say, Joe Flacco, by the way, four
hundred and seventy passing yards and four touchdowns in this.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Game, Joey butter flaccoh if you're Jake Browning, don't you
have to retire?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Like, don't you like, after you see what Joe Flacco,
the ghost of the corpse of Joe Flacco is doing
in this offense, don't you have to be like, I'm sorry, guys,
I gotta.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Go that into Cleveland Browns too as well.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Vikings at the Lions, JJ McCarthy Lmar Michigan wolver Range.
JJ McCarthy takes the snap, short drop, runs up to
the right.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
What's he gonna do. He's gonna run Ken Fine Amazon.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Touche, JJ McCarthy, and that's Paul Allen with KFA and
then he is excited that JJ McCarthy is back.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Nobody gave the Vikings a chance in this one.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Everybody was all over the Lions in this one, myself included.
The Lions were a nine and a half point favorite.
They wind up losing twenty seven to twenty four. A Hey, man,
I McCarthy might have something.
Speaker 8 (05:13):
Yeah, I didn't see this one coming because, I mean,
the last time we saw McCarthy it looked decent, but
it wasn't consistent and we were not sure, or at
least I wasn't of what he was capable of.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
But I mean, based on what.
Speaker 8 (05:25):
He did against the Troy Lyon, who was a pretty
darn good team, that shows as though that defense, you know, there.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Wasn't any in that particular game.
Speaker 8 (05:34):
But from an offensive standpoint, both of these teams, man,
they could put.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Up a lot of point.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I can you know Vikings might be somebody sneaky. Keep
your eye on down the stretches as we're doing this
this one. The other team in this division that messed
up there, the Green ban Packers were thirteen point favorites
against the Carolina Panthers, and the Panthers brought it.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
For the win.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Chance of the snap Martin the whole. Fitzgerald drives the leg,
the kick is up, it.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
Is god Ry.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Fitzgerald delivers at Carolina silences Lambeau Field at Lambeau.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
As Anie Shroff mentioned in that with WRFX and Yeah
talk about games, he didn't see coming Panthers going into
Lambeau and beating the Packers.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Bryce Young barely had one hundred yards pass a no touchdowns,
in an interception, but it was.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
The Rico Dowell Show.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Twenty five carries one hundred and thirty yards, two touchdowns,
caught a couple of balls for eleven yards as well. Well.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
The biggest shocking thing for me was Ricodo twenty five
carries hunt thirty yards. The Packers only had one sack
in the game. And the crazy part is the Carolina
Panthers are five and four.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Who would have thought once? I'm just saying on the
On the Packers side of things, Jordan Loved threw the
ball thirty seven times, only came away two hundred and
seventy three yards.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
He had an interception, no touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
He got sacked once as well. Josh Jacobs got the
touchdown rushing in seventeen carries eighty seven yards on the ground,
Dobbs brother Dobbs was the leading receiver in that one
for the Packers, who suffered disaster as Tyler Kraft went down.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
In that one, Nighters taking on the Giants.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Shot that's net for Jones.
Speaker 9 (07:16):
Mccaffery's wide open, the pass floats in, he pulls it
in along the lapt pylon for a forty nine Ers touchdown.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
That call courtesy of Jack Smith. With w NBR and
the forty nine ers looking pretty good.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, they keep finding ways to win despite the fact
that they are the walking wounded. Is they lose more
and more players. Seems like they lose somebody every game.
Mccaff where he got over one hundred yards on the
ground of the touchdown. Brian Robinson got in the end
zone as well. Mac Jones continuing to play very well.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
They've got some decisions to make.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
The Rock perty Mac Jones stuff going on there in
San Francisco.
Speaker 8 (07:50):
Top it, Ben, There are no decisions that need to
be made. They paid Rock Purdy and Brock Purty earn
every cent of it. The unfortunate game for the forty
nine ers is that they know that they have adequate
depth with mac Jones.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But you said it, I mean.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
This is one of the more intriguing teams in the
NFL because they seem to do a week in and
week out with their rosster being as battled and bruce
as they are.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
But he was wondering who was going to take over
the rushing role in Giants with Cam scattaboo outs, whether
it was going to be Singletary or Tyrone Tracy and
Jackson Darts was the leading rusher for the New York Giants.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Falcons Patriots to be.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Seivers split to the left by aafter pro fires open
the little pitchers that the picks.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Turls sights that.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Down Patriots come on called courtesy of WBZ Bob Socie
and don't look now, Patriots, Coltson Broncos all the top
teams in the afclad it is. Meanwhile, the Falcons continue
to ignore Djon Robinson only twelve carries for forty six
yards for him.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
In that one.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
You've got to get Jon Robinson's ball.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
You have to get get in the ball.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
But when you talk about a guy who had a
monster day from a stat standpoint and a fantasy standpoint,
was Drake Grunt. I mean, yeah, you handle the ball
at bj On Rumson, he's gonna have some of those
games where he's not going to jump off the page.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
But Drake London was awesome.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
But I would just say, definitely say you guy had
to get cal Pitts more involved into that offense if
this Falcons team is gonna get out of this.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Hole to be in three to five.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, fans are calling for their head coaches and offensive
coordinators heads in that one. Another surprise or at least
a sort of a surprise and melt down by the
Coults who were red high before this prior mooth. Crab
motions out to the right, snap to Rogers back looking
at the right, four firemoot, tops down Pittsburgh Steelers bus
strike from Rogers to prior moot and the Steelers have
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taken the lead.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Wow Wow Wow Wow wow Wow. Rob King with w
Dve and Father Time's got nothing on Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, he's playing all right.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Daniel Jones meanwhile, had a melt down outdoors.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Fifty pass attempts, he had three interceptions, he was sacked
five times. He fumbled the ball three times, losing two
of them, and that was the difference in the game.
Jonathan Taylor effectively bottled up by the Steelers fourteen carries
only forty five yards.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
Well, if I'm a Colts fan, I'm not really upset
about this because this was the first game all season
Wall that we've seen Boss secure the being issue for
Dame Jones and hopefully he has a bounce back game.
But sometimes in the season you need one of those
games to force you to kind of realize what.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
You're capable of.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
And maybe this game, losing by seven, turn the ball
over six times that the Steelers, this may be it.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah. This was Steelers for the way their defense is
played most of the year, looking kind of sluggish.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
This was a redemption game for the Chargers at the
Tennessee Titans Herbert.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
They rushed for standon Tall to.
Speaker 9 (10:50):
The end Zoll looking for Q cat what a grab
que touchdown Shoulders twenty yards us to Shotston for Q.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Matt Muney Smith loving had some Q with Kfi and
the Chargers won a game they're supposed to win.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, I you know, I call him Q too because
just like the other Q has John Luke Leccard's nemesis
and Star Trek whenever he came up.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Things were about to get nasty.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
Have.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
The Chargers, by the way, might be the walking wound
as well. Joe alt done for the year. They've lost
both their tackles. They're down to like guys you've never
heard of along the offensive line. I was told by
a source that I need you to confirm this, Nick,
that they called up one Nick Ferguson to see if
he could play offensive tackle because that's how bad they're
out of bodies.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
No, then they called me up.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
Man, I'm on that slim faster die, so I believe
that would be but to stop any opposing pass rusher.
But here's an interesting thing, and I think Justin Herbert
gets a bad rap because he's with the Chargers. He's
one of the better quarterbacks in this league. But in
this particular game, I mean he led you know, the
quarterbacks in passing, but he led the team and both
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teams and Russia, which is unreal.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
So with all being out, this is gonna put a.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
Lot of pressure on him and hopefully this doesn't turn
into him and making.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Light of mistakes.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, that's that's the thing you worry about with, you know.
With that, hopefully that'll hopefully it'll work out. In the
Broncos favor, but you don't ever want to see anybody
getting hurt and beat up. Back there, Jaguars at the Raiders,
this one going to overtime. Shotgun for Trevor dropping it's
a quarterback draw, Trevor.
Speaker 9 (12:25):
To the five into the end.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Zone, touchdown.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Put another terrific play call a quarterback draw and Trevor
ran it.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Into the end zone again.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
The Jaguars the league.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Frank Franzie with wj XL and Jaguars win. But I
like the decision from the Raiders to go for two
in overtime.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, I disagree with Nick on this one. That was
a smart move. You're a two and five football team.
You don't have anything to lose. Go for two, go
for the win, go for the dog. Come on, Nick,
there'll be a coward. I'm not gonna be a coward.
But guess where the Raiders are. They're now two.
Speaker 8 (12:55):
So hindside May twenty twenty, you kicked the field goal
and you can.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Continue the game to be playing out and.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
Then give yourself an opportunity. But here's the thing that
was really interesting, Like no one's really giving a rave
As an opportunity in his game against Trevor Lawrence and
the Jaguars.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But this game, as you said, it.
Speaker 8 (13:12):
Went to the wine. And here's something that the Broncos
should think about. Travis int In twenty two carries eighty
four yards and the average three point eight to carry.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
So run the ball on Thursday against this Ragers.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Just carried it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And they weren't the only one that was averaging in
that by shell Tooton had nine carries for twenty one.
Trevor Lawrence, we just heard about to scramble a twenty
four yards Alan nowt lea Quinn Allen. Run the ball.
He got ten yards on one carry.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
So yeah, with the moral of the story on the ball,
let you JK. Cook. I'm just saying, Saints at the Rams,
Stafford throws.
Speaker 9 (13:44):
Left side, don't satches it down. Another touchdown from Matthew
Stafford to Defonte Adams.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
His second of the day.
Speaker 9 (13:53):
On the receiving end, Matthew pass four through the air
and the Rams have cracked it open again.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Belong with KSPN. And are the Rams the best team
in the NFL right now?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well, I mean I'm not even sure the best team
in their division lo the Seahawks right now?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
They were they were beating up on the New Orleans.
Oh this one, I don't have anything to say.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I mean, Stafford just blew him out and got Rashichi
traded to the aforementioned Seahawks.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
All this day five the time is undefeated, but not
in the case of Matthew Stafford, a guy with the
bad back still finding ways to throw toestdowns.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Change sit the Bills and Patty mahomes the first sub
fifty percent completion percentage game of his NFL career.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
There's the snap, there's the handoff, the shove is there,
and he is in pearl one yard touchdown run Josh
Allen with this second rushing touchdown.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Of the game, That call courtesy of Chris Brown with
w g R. And the Bills continue their dominance over
the Chiefs in the regular season.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, I guess the postseason is usually a different story though.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, just the.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Regular season not on my door, and wake me up
once we get to January.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
And with's how these.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Teams, dude? Yeah, Seahawks putting it to our commanders. Here's
the snap play action fake Darnald rolling right, rolls on
the right side, rydn't and that's White thirty five thirty
saves it bounce twenty five, twenty.
Speaker 9 (15:13):
Fifteen ten five touchdown Seattle.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Tony White made the.
Speaker 9 (15:18):
Catch and sports his first career touchdown.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
That call courtesy of Ryan Rakey with wes Wood one.
And maybe you're right the Seahawks may be.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
The best team in the US.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Is Sam Darnle the MVP?
Speaker 8 (15:30):
I would go as that far, but he is definitely
the comeback player of the year in.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
My opinion, playing out of his mind, didn't drop out.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
He didn't have a miss.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Pass in the first half. And how about them Cardinals?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Cardinals first and goal, Jacobe Bresset in the gun, the snap,
a four man rush. One's a curs En song cop touchdown.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
McBride here's side did inside the pylon three yards teeth
in the home zone.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
How another touchdown pass.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
For percent That call courtesy of Kevin Harlan with west
Wood one. Wrapping up a pretty good weekend for the
NFC West Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
The Dorks yesterday we're all picking the Cowboys. I told
him I didn't even need the points. Give me the
Cardinals to win out right. They should have listened on
show me the money.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
It seemed like the Cardinals have found the quarterback at
lease of the remaining.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Of the season to start the Bresse.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, Barshet's name is starter.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
So what does that mean for their other high priced
quarterback Colin Murray?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Gonna be a Jet next year?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Interesting?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Get ready? Maybe in New Orleans? Who knows, we'll see
well come back. Vide bon Signiori is gonna preview these
Raiders coming up for us, mister Broncos Country Night right
here on Kiawa. We're gonna go right out to the
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bon Signor report of the Review Journal covering the Raiders
obviously does the tailgate on Raider Nation Radio for AM
five seventy out there and my personal favorite video, how
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you doing.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Buddy, I'm doing well. How are you guys doing?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Hey, it's Raiders week. You know, we're always doing well
here Thursday night football too, which is you know, it's
always fun, but it's also a heck of a workday,
you know, getting done late and all that kind of stuff.
The Raiders make a trade today, sending off Jacobe Myers
to the Jacksonville Jaguars for a team that, from our perspective,
certainly felt like it had a dearth of weapons, although
some young talent there. That move seems a bit perplexing.
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Although we know Myers had wanted.
Speaker 10 (17:12):
Out, Yeah, no doubt about it, and you know he
was going to leave in free agency, and there was
I know, you know some people are like, well, you know,
you get a compensation pick for it, or a compensatory
pick for it. But the Raiders are so far under
the salary cap going into next offseason and have a
whole bunch of cash to spend. Their cast expenditures go
down from two hundred and eighty nine thousand or two
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hundred and eighty nine million this year to one hundred
and thirty six million as of right now next year.
That there's no guarantee that they're going to get anything
for him in the.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Comptics because they might sign.
Speaker 10 (17:43):
More players than they lose. So they felt like the
best route was to go ahead and trade him and
get a guaranteed return for him. And now there's probably
two schools of thought here, depending if you're talking to
the coach and a general manager. The coach wants to
win right now. I think the manager wants the build
for the future, and this is definitely a move.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
To do that.
Speaker 10 (18:05):
It'll get Jack Besh the reoking from TCU on the
field a little bit more helped expradite his development and
at the same token and more just as importantly, it
gives them now eleven picks in next year's jap when
you add in some contexts that they're expected to get
for some free agency losses, and they'll now have six
picks within the first four rounds, including three now in
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the foreground.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
Vinny with the tough laws on the road and Ben
is one of those individuals who feel as though, yeah,
Pete Carra was right for going forward on the two
point version. I say the kick the showd go and
keep the game moving. How is it that the Raiders
plan on in your in your mind and covering a
team bounce back on a short week against a very
talented Broncos team.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah, that's going to be a challenge.
Speaker 10 (18:52):
As far as you know, going for two, I think
I think you would have probably had a fight on
your hands with Max Crosby and a whole bunch of others.
There are twenty seconds left to play, so you know.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
That they weren't gonna definitely weren't going.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
To settle for a tie. It was a great learning
experience and one that they ultimately.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Did not pass.
Speaker 10 (19:11):
But there was no question that they were going to
definitely go for two right there and go for the
win rather than settle, because you know, if there was
more time in the game, maybe you tie it up,
try to get your defense back out there and get
the ball back to try to win it on a
field goal. But with twenty seconds left and you've got,
you know, two wins, they were definitely going to go
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for it. In terms of, you know, making the trip
to Denver now without Jacobe Myers, it was going to
be a tough game as was, and I think everyone
here understands the challenge that that's going to be on
short notice going out to Denver to play a really good,
well coached team that's just quite frankly better than the
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Raiders right now. So it's going to take her Cubian
effort by the Raiders to be competitive in this game.
And I think if they are competitive, of NF, the
offense can can kind of pick up where they left
off on Sunday. They were really starting to roll in
the second half of that game, especially in the fourth
quarter in overtime. Brock Powers was the best player on
the field, and they'll probably be, well maybe one of
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the at least one of the best players in the
field on Thursday. If they can continue to progress offensively
and put on a show and score some points and
show some growth in that regard and lose an entertaining game.
I don't think there's I would say that there's some
people in the building that wouldn't be too upset about
something like that happened ty with.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Vine Basin yor have any you know, I think most
Broncos fans looking at this and say and they think
this is a pretty probably calling this a gimmi game. Obviously,
you never want to do that in the NFL, as
you know, every game has got to be fought, and
you certainly see, you know, teams upset all the time.
Look at the Panthers Packers. That was what thirteen point
dogs in that when this past weekend. But the Denver
Broncos are undefeated home, one of two teams in the
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NFL to still be that, along with the Indianapolis Colts,
and they've got their sites set on the rest of
this schedule, which looks fairly tough. Two games against Kansas
City a charge there, a Packers game in there, jackson
a suddenly tough Jacksonville game in there. What are the
Raiders thinking about this game? Is this one that they
have any confidence that they can come in and win?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Well?
Speaker 10 (21:11):
I think now that they have Rock in the fold,
and that made life a whole lot easier for Gino Smith.
He was just a different quarterback and has been a
different quarterback.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Really.
Speaker 10 (21:21):
The only time that that he's had him healthy outside
of Sunday was against the Patriots, a team that they
beat on the road. So that's that's something that I
would think that the Broncos should be aware of. Bob
Bowers makes a big difference. He is a freaking good
football player.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Man. I've seen a bunch of good players. This guy
is as good of.
Speaker 10 (21:40):
A young player as I've seen him so many different ways,
and he has a chance to waylay people and really
change games. So and then you've got Ashton Genty, who
I think is coming along and it's kind of a
home run threat anytime he touches the ball. So this
isn't a game that I think the Denver Broncos should
win pretty easily. And and you know, if I'm them,
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I want to take care of it as early as
possible and then go and enjoy an extended period off
before getting ready for your next game. But I would
also be wary because there are two really good football
players that they're going to have to go against offensively,
and that's Powers and Ashton Genty, and maybe a revitalized
Gino Smith who feels a lot better working with them
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than some of the young guys that were replacing Brock
Powers and Michael Mayer earlier.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
In the season.
Speaker 10 (22:28):
And then on top of that, you also have Max
Fozy who has the ability to change games on the
other side of the field. So I think the Broncos
are going to win, probably decisively, but I think the
Raiders feel like with the weapons that they have now
that they can at least go out there and be competitive.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Bitty wit.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
With that being said, how would you kind of categorize
what you've seen from Chick Kelly in his play calling
so far?
Speaker 10 (22:53):
Yeah, I mean it's life was tough for them when
Bowers They're just not good enough to withstand that kind
of a loss. And it looked good in Week one,
you know, they beat, like I said, the Patriots, and
and and he was in Gino Smith and and Chip
were spreading the ball around and he was nine different receivers.
They had seven plays I think for over over twenty yards.
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It was really clicking at that point. But then the
wheels fell off because Brock Powers wasn't in the lineup.
So it's two different it's two different Chip Kelly offenses.
It's the one that he's had with Brock Powers for
two games and it's looked pretty good in those two games.
And then there were six others where Brock Bowers wasn't
was either really limited or just not on the field altogether,
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and it changed everything. So and Chips talked about.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
How this isn't this isn't Ohio.
Speaker 10 (23:42):
State where you could just go pluck another fifty year
or excuse me, five star recruit you know, off the
bench and put him in and the way you go,
it gets in pretty quick, especially on this Raiders team
right now, where the backups are just right either too
young and too you know, not ready yet, or just
not not good enough to kind of fill those types
of types of holes. But I will say this, it's curious,
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it'll it'll be interesting to see how this all plays out,
you know, quite frankly with Chip Kelly and end with
Pete Carroll and whether or not you know, Tom Brady
and the powers that be feel like they're the right
coaches to get this thing on the right track for
the long haul. You've got two older coaches in Chip
Kelly and Pete Carroll, and their timelines, you know, might
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not line up with the with the task that's really
truly required of the Raiders, and that's to rebuild this roster.
You've got some great young pieces, but you have a
whole bunch of holes everywhere else on and in so
many other places on the roster that it's going to
take a couple of years to get that thing turned
around where it needs to be. And does Pete want
to stomach that at seventy four years old, there's Chip
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in his sixties.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
I want to deal with that?
Speaker 10 (24:50):
Or do they want to maybe find in Chip case,
go find something that's a little bit easier right now
and a little bit more conducive to winning right now?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
With visor from the room, you journal and you're absolutely right,
I mean, Pete Carroll's not here for a long slog rebuild.
You know, when you at his age, when you take
this job you're there for a quick turn. Gino Smith
looks like a little of the little lustard following off.
Is there any thought that turning to Kenny Pickett, I
think if.
Speaker 10 (25:17):
If I'd alwaydn't roll it out, if he continues to
be reckless with the football and you know, turning it
and over, he's limited that a little bit. It was
one interception against four touchdowns on Sunday. I think the
Raiders will take that every every Sunday. But if it
reverts back to the three interceptions, he had two games
with three interceptions and and you know, just games where
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he just wasn't he lost the accuracy and lost the
touch which was you know, a very just a real
departure of the quarterback that Pete Carroll remembered in Seattle.
So if it goes sideways like like it has at
points this season, and then you know, you might as
well give it a shot, give Kenny Picker a shot
to see what he's came for, because you're probably gonna
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have to make a decision on him, you know, pretty
pretty quickly here whether or not he's somebody that can
compete for a starting job or at least a backup role.
You gave up a fifth round pick to go get him,
So you have something invested in them. At some point
you want to see what you have. And Gina will
play a little bit of a role in that. If
you played like you played on Sunday. No, I don't
see them doing that, But there's been so many games
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this year where he hasn't looked even close to that
that there's got to be a point in time where
maybe they pull a plug and give Kenny a chance
to start a couple of games.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Here, Benny, how is that supposed to work in your mind?
When when you think about what you said earlier and
what I'm talking about, like spi Tech is playing for
the future, he's playing the loan game. And you just
mentioned Pete Carroll and Tobe Kelly. I mean these two
guys along into two. So who wins that particular battle,
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because I know the ratest fans have to be upset
because they were expecting maybe more of a high flying
office than they're actually receiving.
Speaker 10 (27:00):
Well, if you're asking who would win that battle, just
remember this, or ask yourself this, Where did John spy
Tech play college football? Who was his teammate when you
played college football? Spoiler alert, it was Tom Brady. You know,
they're good friends, and so John spy Tech was always
going to be here, whether it was Ben Johnson, whether
we're able to make that home run higher or bring
in somebody else, it was always going to be John
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spy Tech as the general manager, and they were going
to pair him.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
With the coach preferably.
Speaker 10 (27:26):
First choice was Ben Johnson, and you know Pete was
the was the fallback option. But if you're asking who's
gonna kind of win that day, if it ever came
to that, then it's going to be John spy Tech
and they'll go find another another coach just because of
who's you know, here in this building from time to
time as a as a minority owner and somebody with
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a huge voice in the football operations. And that's Tom
Brady's former college team at the University of Michigan, Ty
with Anny.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Moon Signori from the Review General Leader's two players. So
I wanted the Broncos to draft to this past draft
that went to AFC West opponents. Ronde Gadsden, who's lighting
up there with the Chargers, and Dante Thordon Junior, the
big six foot five wide receiver that you guys drafted
there with the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
What's been the impetus to getting him going there for
the Raiders.
Speaker 10 (28:14):
Yeah, you know, there were times in training camp where
it was it felt like it was really coming along
for Dante, But then there would be periods where you
realize he needs a lot of work, and he's a
hard worker and he's a really smart kid, and the
Raiders believe that it'll eventually turn around. But there were
just too many times during during games where he didn't
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fight for the ball or not that he didn't fight
for the ball. I don't think he was.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
I don't think.
Speaker 10 (28:39):
He's he's there yet in terms of knowing when you
got to go really go get the ball and be
aggressive and then come back.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
On the ball.
Speaker 10 (28:46):
Little nuances of the wide super position that quite honestly,
he was not taught at the University of Tennessee. You
know how they played that kind of a funky offense
at Tennessee, and it do Dante Thornton, you know, many favors.
Even when he was on the field that PF they
didn't really throw it to him a whole lot, So
they knew that there was going to be a learning curve.
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What he has is six foot five size and four
to three speed. In the forty usually have one or
the other. He's got both, and it's legit he could fly.
But there are some parts of the wide receiver position
that that just haven't turned around or come around as
quickly as they wanted it to. And so now he's
been kind of relegated to a more developmental.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
You know track for this year. Now saying that you.
Speaker 10 (29:35):
Know, moving moving Jacoby Myers opens the door for a
Jack Besh to get in at slot wide receiver. And
now they're going to have a decision to make when
they when they play eleven personnel, who that third wide
receiver is going to be. Trey Tucker is going to
be one of the wide receivers. Jack Beash will be
that it should be the slot wide receiver. But when
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they play eleven personnel, who's a third wide receiver?
Speaker 5 (29:59):
And right now it.
Speaker 10 (30:00):
Feels like HETE's probably going to go with Tyler Lockett.
That make a whole lot of sense to me at
thirty three years old, and there's really no future for
for Tyler here as opposed to to whatever extent you
can get Dante out there on the field to expedite
his his development. I think you should take advantage of that,
But I don't know that peace seeds it that way
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just yet. It may, it may, you know, happen like
that at some point when it's painfully obvious that they're
that they're if it's not already that they're that they're
not in contention for anything serious, and just get him
out there and start getting him developed so that going
into next year he's going to be that further or
that much further along, even with the growing pains that
you're going to have to experience. So we'll see if
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that if that intersects the way it probably should, but
I don't know that right now Pete is ready to
do that.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Many We appreciate the toime as always, Brother lake Ford
to seeing you out there on Thursday.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
All right, man, take care of a great job.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Absolutely take care of anybod Signori the Review Journal and
Nick you know, I yeah, that's right. They I mean,
they did pick up Tyler, and I think a lot
of people sort of kind of forgotten about that line that.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Changes one probably not much of anything.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I mean, Lockett was a guy that was mostly forgott
about that there in Tennessee before he asked for his release,
and he went out of the frying pant of the
fire from the Titans to the to the Raiders, and
I is this a trap game?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Like, I just this is a game.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I'm like, I'm one hundred percent picking the Broncos, even
though when I get to the Kawi thing, I'm gonna
pick the Raiders just to keep the reverse Jink streak alive. Like,
I don't see any way the Raiders win this.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
No, this is not a trap game of any sorts.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Even though the Raiders looked a lot better on Sunday
against Jacksonville than we've seen them all season long. And
like Vinnie said, I mean they beat the Patriots and
then everyone's thinking like, okay, well maybe the Raiders have
turned the corner, and that the big problem during that
losing streak was not having adequate weapons and brought Bauers
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being out.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Now Bowers is being out being back, excuse me, and.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
He's going to see a significant amount of targets. But
outside of that, what other guys offensively that you say,
well actually scares you from a Raider standpoint, Not many,
if at any at all. Now, Ashton Jenz is one
heck of a young running back. I will agree with that.
But if you can't create space and back off the
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Broncos defense, and we've seen that Geno Smith went under
the rest, which he has been under the rest a
lot this season. I mean he's not making timely reids
and timely throw So unless you know something that I don't,
or there's a massive stomach flu between now and Thursday,
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the Broncos win this game handedly.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I just one of the text lines seven two said
telling you this is a trap game. Bowers and Crosby.
We have to get rid of the screen. Acrosby will
get it be force to pick six. Dude.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
I mean Max Crosby is a beast.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I mean he's a great football player. Don't get me wrong.
I try to take anything away from him or Bowers,
but I don't know, he's one player. Yeah, we can
get more to this. On the other side, we got
some time to that Broncos after night back and for
this