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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
We're going to go right out to the ka commas
spelled hotline though, and bring on a guest tonight. Luther Ellis,
former NFL or former Denver Bronco, former Super Bowl fifty chaplain,
father of Jonah Ellis, Broncos ed rusher and Kate Ellis,
who's playing for the Atlanta Falcons in this game, as
well as a host of other elises that have already
made the NFL. We liken him to the mccaffreys of
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defense with those genetics. Hopefully he takes that in stride
and doesn't murder me. Luthor, how's it going, seating?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
That's going? Gray? How are you and doing pretty well? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I remember when when your son Jonah was drafted on
draft night, here in Denver, and he was elated and everything,
and we you know, it just occurred to me how
many of you elis as they had Eli's children they
had in the in the NFL. And I asked him
if he had a sister, was a doctor somewhere, that
might be a family disappointment. Given help if you got
some made the NFL, you got to be proud of
that whole family. What's it like being the parent of
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two sons that are going to be playing each other
in an NFL game?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Oh, it's so exciting, and you know, we're grateful and
God's blessome the way that he has and that they've
had opportunities that they have right now currently. And I mean,
I don't like to play in the NFL, but then
an opportunity to play against you know, your sibling and
it's gonna be for bragging rights and a lot of
other things that goes on. So it's something that's really
exciting and we're excited to support him.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
My guy, Luther, how you doing, man? Nick Ferguson here.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
A big dog, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I'm doing well?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Man?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
And you know, for me, know one as though I mean,
you have your son's playing, you know, in the NFL.
But I just want you to give us somewhat of
a glimpse of what it was like in the Ellis
household with the kids that you have, and just you know,
the whole idea of football was a huge part of it.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
What was that?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
What was that like for you? Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It was first of all awesome. I like my wife
and I we weren't planning on having twelve children, right,
I mean, it was just one of those things that
we felt, you know, lived whatever, to adopt and do
different things and to grow the family that way. And
I'm multo close. And what's crazy is it was pretty
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quiet around the household and a lot of friends would
call and say, hey, we'll go on. Where's your kids?
So quiet? Oh they're all here, right. But as soon
as we had guests or anything like that, then it
got pretty wild and crazy. So but in our household, honestly,
I tried to get him to play other sports, be
quite honest, and my oldest at first, Kayden, he didn't
want anything to do with sports. He wanted to be
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a scientist. I'll be great, good, let's let's just have
you down that path. Now. I do want to throw
the ball around with you and have fun in doing that.
But you know, I try to direct them other ways,
but of course football is a huge part of who
we are and what we do. And I coached a
little bit and then the kids are like, well, we
want to do that too. So monstory short, they got
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into it. They love it. It's been a huge part
of that family, just because also I think, you know,
football brings so many different things with it far as
development and character and just disappointment and developing strength, meaning
and character and how you little losses and how y'all
go you know, winning, And I just think there are
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so many pluses and benefits of it that we're grateful
that they all chose to play the great game in football.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Well, with all your boys playing football and all of
those guys being on our defensive side of the ball,
do you have any conversations with them now that they're pros,
weekly conversations on things that they can could improve on
the things that you see in their game. Do you
have those conversations with them?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Oh? Yeah, we do. Yeah, we talked, not as much
as I would like to, just because you know, I
am coaching here at the University of Utah and and
it's just harder to be able to spend more time
with them to help coach them up and do those things.
But they'll ask me things or say things, or call
and say, hey, this happened, or this happened. Help you
handle that. But we do. We talk a lot about
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technique and different things. Of course, they have different terminology
than what we do, but at the end of the day,
it's still football and it's still about fundamentals and technique.
And you know, if you have fundamentals and technique, then
your athletic bility being that much better. So we talk
a lot about that and just you know, how to
be sounded in what they do and what they're being
have to do. And I enjoy it. I love talking
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with them. I love when the awe moments happen and
then they go out and use it and apply it
and you see it and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Talking with Luther Ellis. Todd Davis was in here earlier
today and he was talking about you being one of
you being one of his favorite people. That you're obviously
the chaplain for the Super Bowl fifty team. Tell us
a little bit about what that experience was like being
a chaplain for a Super Bowl winning football team.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It was crazy. It was awesome. I mean, these guys
are just great, not only great athletes, for the great men,
and you know, I had an opportunity for into them
outside of football in an incense of spiritually and and
sharing the Gospel, and you just love it on these guys, right,
And we kept it pretty simple because I'm a pretty
simple guy. I believe that guests principle applies in all
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areas of life, and so when it came to the
spiritual side of things, being able to just pour into
the guys, being able to walk with him through different
seasons of their lives and different childs and thinks that
was happening, and you know it was. It was a
lot of fun. And you know I got a chance
to well I didn't get to do it because that's
some come up, but you know, opportunities to really point
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your by. You know, they asked, hey, do you appreciate
my wedding? Will you do this and do a different things.
So it was a great experience and I love it.
My kids liked it a lot, and my wife got
to put bunch of the women and it was something
that you know, was fully out of blue, unexpected when
coach Kobiac called me how the blue? And you know,
I get this phone call and he's like Cooper. I'm like, hey,
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how are you. I'm not sure it is I don't
know the number. And he goes, it's Coop. I'm who's
Who's He goes Coobiac. I was like, oh my gosh, coach,
what's up? I always been a lot. How you being?
And he goes, I'll you know. We talked for a
minute and then he goes, hey, I want to bring
you give you an opportunity to be our chat. I'm like,
what wait okay? And then of course Ray jack and
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Ray Jackson those guys and you all got to know
him prior to that, and then with him in part
of the organization. It was just a huge blessing. So
grateful for the opportunity, which I was, you know, good
to keep going doing it, but uh, you know, being
in at Denver, being the team chat run and then uh,
you know, got the coaching buzz because coach KU's right.
First day I'm out there and he's like, what are
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you doing? I said, I'm watching practice. He goes go
over there and start coaching, help them out, let's go,
you know differ. So I went over and you know,
we'll help you know what I could do with the
lines and then tied ends and whatever else they could
coaches needed. I why to help out. You know, the whole
time held it back, but that's okay. It was so
fun and just got me going and coaching opportunities, and
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and then it happened.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I always felt as though coaching was somewhat you know,
down the road for you. And you have a big
game coming up this weekend here in Boulder where the
youth to come in and play to see you buffs.
But you got two guys who definitely are big guys
and definitely stand out, uh, Tafuna and Tana Vasa. I mean,
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what is it about these guys that you guys lean
on so much and will lean on Saturday as you
face the buffs.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yes, I mean those guys are awesome guys, uh, first
and foremost as people, right, They're They're great individuals. They
love football, they love lie. Uh Junior is married and
he has a beautiful son, and and they're just great
young men that you know, again, I'm fortunate enough to
build a foreign to them. Sure, you know, hopefully a
little bit of knowledge and wisdom and and just continue
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to help them on their journey in this great game
called football, right. And and then Killo is just he's
just a lot of fun too. He's he's younger and
and he has that kind of help uh type of
mentality and and it's just fun watching these guys get
out there and kay, you know what you're asking to
do coaching wise, and go out there and play really well.
So but hey, the Buzz and Bus are really really
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good team. Uh, they have talent all over the place.
They they're doing great. I mean, their defenses playing better
and better every week. And it's gonna be a tough path.
So we're gonna need those two d be bes and
and to be able to handle themselves and do what
we need them to do because without those two, I mean,
I don't know that our defense is quite the same.
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And you also have to have all a defense alignment.
But I really believe especially interior wide, because they think
control the interior, it makes it that much easier on
the defense.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
We'll talk again with Luther Ellis, father of both Cayden
and Jonah, also be playing this Sunday coach at Utah
chaplain for the Super Bowl fifty Broncos team, but more
importantly twenty fourteen mate if Nick Ferguson and a desperate
world here wants to know what kind of Dirk you
have on a young Nick Ferguson.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
That was awesome that he was awesome that I got
to Denver. You know, of course he's you know, be
on defense side and doing those things he was. He
was awesome. He just took took me in like you know,
anything I needed. He was quiet, funny, you know because
in who I was at that time and where I
was that in live was just a family. It was
you know, you didn't hang out too much, but it
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was fun going to the defensive dinners and doing the
things of that nature and hanging out. But I don't
have anything on him. He's as far as I know,
he's not the class and straight up and just love
playing being a teammate and watching him do the things
he does and making the plays he made for us.
So it was awesome.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Well, thank you, said the check.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
It will be in the mayor. I see.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Before he got on and I see what happened here.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
You know what look the week. When you look at
the way that the game is being played in the
NFL from a quarterback standpoint, there are so many mobile
guys in the league. How do you coach your guys
to actually deal with that skill set?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, I mean that's a great question, because you know
it is kind of for surely a big dilemma for us,
right the guys up front, because we our jobs have
to get out to that quarterback and I'll let him
get out of the past rush lanes, and we got
to do our part and holding up and doing those things.
We tried multiple ways and different things that we try
to make it more difficult on him, meaning getting after him,
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but also controlling the lanes and and not opening up
lanes so you could just escape on us. But I
don't know, I feel like it's one of those things
where when you play what's the word, I don't stay scared,
but you've played more of a conservative. Hey, we're just
going to bull rush and just trying to keep them
contained in the pocket. Well, typically those guys, like you said, right,
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only are they great athletes, but they can win that ball.
So now you give them all towards the time to
the ice sector your secondary right and as you say, man, hey,
you can't come beforeever. So you know what what we
do is, honestly, we just try to get after him.
We just say, guys, you know you've got to put
fresh on him. You got to make him uncomfortableack. But
we got to get hits on him. So we need
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to just rush and rush smart rush. You know, just
Willy and Nelly can get up fills, run by the quarterback,
that type stuff. But you have to maintain your fresh
past our slang. But we can't resteat him and said, hey,
I was going to do a bull rush all game,
because again, these guys are I mean all about you,
But these kids coming in now, I mean you got
in high school, kids are a far more advanced than
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I was when I got into the Bros. Right, I
mean they're they're working on this game year round and
getting some great teaching and great coaching through former NFL guys,
coaches and things of that nature. So these guys are
a lot more skilled and more advanced, I would say,
than even during our time. Right. It's just one of
those things where these kids are spending so much time
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in the game that you have to get after them
and the best way to do that it just again
starts up front. Guys up front and have to cause
that pressure, cause that havoc be in his grill, so
he's always thinking about like where they're coming from. Right,
if we can get his eyes from looking downfield or
checking down to a second third grade and we're doing
a good job.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Talk again with Luther ellis, what do you think of
the nil era of football? Is nil good for is
it good for recruits? Is it good for football? What's
the biggest difference now between when you were coming up
and these is now? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I think I think in Aisle is a good thing
in a sense of you know, you look at all
these years. I think back in my day when we
figured out what we were making per hour for all
the time and effort we put into football. You know,
it was really a little less than minimum ways back then,
which you know, I don't remember what minim ways back then,
but it was you know, pretty leak and for everything
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that you're doing. And then the universities are able to
new jerseys and do all the things. So I do
think there was it was an imbalanced and it was
something that needed to be addressed and looked at. But
where we're at right now, it doesn't my tennis, and
it's not creating an equal playing field across the board
in the sense of if you right have a big purse,
you're going to be able to do a lot more
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with that then with someone other schools that don't have that.
And it's just not the way I think college football
should be. To me, if we already lost amateurism status
quite a while ago, I assume they started broadcasting and
making some kind of roadue opportunities from the games being played,
it's no longer amateurism anymore. It's about the dollars and
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about what you're trying to get out of it. And
of course they say, oh, hey, you're education everything else
more so grateful for that. But the bottom line, like
ABC and NBC and all these people aren't broadcasting games
just to do out of the kindness of their hearts, right,
They're doing it because it's a big drawing and it
helps them to generate the revenue. So to me, I
just I'm at the point where in college football it
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is what it is. We're a semipro league. Let's call
it what it is. Let's model after the NFL and
create a salary cap, create those different things, because then
now you're going to have more equity or more equitable
for all schools and have opportunities to do us. And
I know it's like, hey, you got so many schools. Yeah,
well we need to figure it out. Because again, just
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right now, I mean, I don't know if you guys
saw that, but that Michigan kid quarterback or whatever he is,
I mean, he's a dynamic athlete. Right, somebody's you know,
one school is willing to pam ten and a half
million dollars coming out of high school. So wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Well listen ten seconds here. My last question for you.
Are you coming to the Broncos game on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Fortunately I won't be able to make it. I wish
I could make it, but you know, we just Sunday's
big game planning day for us and things that we do.
So I fortunately won't be able to make it, but
my wife and my kids, their belts will be there
and they'll enjoy it, and I'm excited for them to
go head to head and of course I'm just gonna
be cheering for them individually.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Well, I'll see you Saturday on the sideline before the game.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Awesome, that'd be great, look forward to it.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well, we really appreciate you taking some time out for
us tonight and I wish you luck. Sorry you don't
get see about your son's play man, it's a shame,
but do hopefully be able to watch it on TV.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I will thank you guys, appreciate your time. Now, I'll
see you Saturday.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Right, I'll get that dirt from him at some point.
I promise you focused and this is gonna happen to