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slash Contests. As we look back on this, this Broncos
game against the Falcons and try to put a bow
on this thing, what we are seeing is the national
narrative around the Denver Broncos and specifically bo Nix is changing.
Whereas a few weeks ago we certainly saw people ready
to jump in and back on bow and say that
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he was the worst thing to ever happen.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Are you referring to yourself. I've never said anything of
the sord.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Okay, I gave it his criticisms of poor play early
in the season.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I mean, waitman, you may not have said it.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Directly in those particular words, but I do remember you
not being a huge fan.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I don't know about not a huge fan. I just
said he wasn't ready to start at that point in time.
He looked like but he he's grown through it, and
specifically the last two weeks. It's really the last two
three weeks has really started to come into his own
as a as a starter.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
But the entire national narrative has shifted.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I mean, the people are falling all over themselves to
try to get to the front of the bus to
be the ones to praise Bonix.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Now, what did.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Those individuals have to do in order to correct themselves
other than just saying yes, he is making changes.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I'm I'm just asking for a friend. I mean, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I think that as long as they're being truthful about it,
I think they're good to go.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I think it's something they should do. I'm think they.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Should get a wheel of punishment type deal. Yes, okay,
well we can split the wheel. We can look into that.
See what they do. Here's here's Bill Belichick on the
Pat McAfee show talking about bow Nicks.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Well, I think Denver's played really well defensively, let's start
with that. And I think that that's been a big,
a big asset for the entire football team, especially the quarterback. Look,
there's no better feeling for the quarterback than to know
that if we don't turn the ball over, we're going
to get it back. We don't have to go out
and score forty seven points to win. That we can
count on our defense, and that's.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
A good thing.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Sean's a great coach.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
He does an excellent job of attacking defenses and mixing
up personnel. But obviously Nix is really a smart guy.
He has a lot of experience, you know, a full
college career and has adapted very well to the adjustments
you've seen, changing things at the line of scrimmage and
getting people in the right place and all that. So
his experience and his poise, But if he just doesn't
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go out there and you know, make a lot of mistakes.
They can win with, you know, twenty points, twenty four points.
They don't have to go out there and score you know,
forty nine. So take what's there, take the positive plays.
I think Sean really should you know, be in the
running for whatever Executive of the year, whatever.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
You want to call it.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I mean to play with, you know, a team that's whatever,
thirty percent under the strength based on the salary cap
and the dead money that they had to carry, like
they don't even have a full team here, and you know,
from a salary cap standpoint, but these guys are playing
really well, and you know they're in a tough division,
but it seems like they're getting better and they're good
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on defense. Overall, this has been a good defensive football team.
They didn't do well against Baltimore, but they played pretty
well all season.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Bill Belichick complimenting the defense out of the gate, book
ending that.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
By complimenting the defense on the back end.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
But you talk about bow and how great defense is
a quarterbacks best friends, you know, then you're not there's
not pressure on you to go out there and make
those kinds of plays. You can let it have them naturally,
just got to play not to make mistakes instead of
trying to press, as it were. And I think Bill
Belichick made some pretty good points, very valid points.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
The defense is the quarterback's best friend, even better than
an imagine every friend, because you know, you can see
the outcome. And I'm glad that Bill Belichick whatever went
out of his way to book in his statement by
talking about the defense. Because I don't know about you,
I don't feel as though the Broncos defense, their coaching staff,
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the defensive coordinators receive as much praise as they deserve.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I really don't feel as though they do.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
It's like there's a conversation about what took place in
the weekly game, and it is.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And the other thing and that, oh, by the way,
the defense did that. Now moving back on to bow
knicks in.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
The offense, and when the thing about where the defense
is at this point, they are the foundation to where
this team.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Is at this point.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
All you have to do is look at the game
on Sunday, no touchdowns, right, and the defense gave Bowen
office and coach Peyton several opportunities to put the number
of points.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And granted the offense.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Don't want to take anything away from them, they executed
the way they needed to execute.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But for me, I.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Don't hear enough people talking about the players on the
defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And it may sound crazy, Ben, because I played on
the defense side of.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
The ball, and it may say seem as though maybe
I'm a little.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Frustrated with that, and I can see that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I think my counterpoint there and I'm not disagreeing with
anything you say.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yea would just say.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
The counterpoint is, I think Broncos fans have become used
to having a great defense. I mean, this defense is
outperforming recent defenses, but the Broncos defense by and large
since the Super Bowl season, he has been really good.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
So because of that, and he said, well, well, the
expectation is always had to break the defense.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So they're celebrating the fact that there's some life to
an offense for once since honestly since before the Super Bowl,
since Peyton Manning was back in his prom See.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Okay, I get all that, and even mentioning Peyton Manning,
I go back to what took place in Super Bowl fifty,
how that happened, defense, defense.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And the season of all things. I'm glad you said it.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Who was there being validated yesterday at the game at
had time.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Who that's right, you've gone right. The no fly zone
service members as well, exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Of course, thank you for your servicemen and women of
the military.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I definitely appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
But yes, the no fly zone, they were being validated,
and they were being validated for a specified reason. So
for me, it is like, we can't overlook what's happening,
like Rodney Moss on the play yesterday, just knocking the
ball out of the air, and how much that he
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hasn't approved. And at the beginning of the season, people
were saying, you know what, we're not sure that we
white corner. Let's pick on him, That's what they were saying.
But was it still the same thing that, well, we
don't think he's going to play as well as he
played what he did.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
This Cousins takes it, loads it up home, rumble down
the west side line incomplete.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
He tried to squeeze the football in that time to
Darnell Mooney.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
The speech terri with.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Riley Moss, second year corner for the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Step first step, incomplete, second attempt. Hey, you see what
did they say? Right? They've been saying that ever since
I've played here.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
When there is some account of deflection by a linebacker
a guy on the secondary, what do you constantly hear
the fans saying and come play?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
That tells you right there the big best was this.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well, I'm not disagreeing with you by any stretch. I
think the way to the way I frame that is,
if bo Nicks and Drake mayswap places, would there be
any would any would there be any appreciable difference on
either team?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And the answer is probably no.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Drake May would probably be at roughly the level of
play there he has ten touchdowns, ain't us It would
probably be the offense would be roughly the same. So
you really think the Patriots offense would be roughly the same?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
So.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You know it's slightly look no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Slightly better because Bow and Mike at pink can do
certain things that I think Drake May has not shown.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I was not saying that he's not capable of doing him.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
But think about Bow extending plays with his feet right,
actually picking up Drake jar Bank's got that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
A little bit of that to him. So now there
he has a little bit of that. We haven't seen
it far, not much, just so far yet.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
But that's the thing that changes the Broncos offense that
bo was able to do, that being able to extend
and Coase Belichick kind of alluded to as far as
allowing bow to beat Bowl. Well right, And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I think Sean Payt would allow Drake to be Drake
and that that Guy's what I'm saying is, I don't
think there would be appreciable difference in scoring either way.
You swap both those guys, put them in the other situation,
and I don't think there's much of a different.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And why wouldn't be much of a different? Let me defense, they.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Were carrying them, and it's take away from both again
is carrying.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
The football team.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Atlanta got the test, Atlanta got six points in that game. Yes,
but and and by the way, Atlanta's defense is trash.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
My god, the defense is bad. Like I knew they
were bad, I didn't know they were that bad. Yeah,
I thought they were you talking.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
About on Friday when I was like, yeah, they're slow,
they're not very good.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But I didn't realize they were that bad.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I had a chance to talk to a couple of
individuals I know from Atlanta, who works who worked down
in the Atlanta area, right right, And it was the
concept was like, Okay, well they're trying to understand what's
going on with the Falcons defense. So I'm standing there
in the box and we're having this this conversation and
I'm saying, well, some of the issue is like when
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you look at the pass rush, guys don't seem as
though they have more.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Than one pass rush move.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's like they rush to contact and then yeah, and
it's just like you're going to expose you're back in
on every single possession. And it's not that that Justin
Simmons is bad, Jesse Bates is bad, right, that the
secondary is bad, but you're going to get exposed when
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a quarterback has a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
You've got two guys.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
In that front seven that I thought are even starters
in this league, and that's Grady Jarrett Ye and kay
nellis what.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Happens to Matt Judon.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
But he looks like he does not know what he's
doing in that defense. It's not the same defense that
he's used to either. You gotta remember when he was
in Baltimore, it was straight downhill for him. He never
had to now he's dropping back sometimes he's got other
things going on.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I don't think he was much of it.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I think they saw the name and not the player
and went out and signed him.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah they did.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
But I'll say this one guy they do have on
the Falcons team that is a.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Baller and I like him, Kay Nellis, That's what I
say he was. The other one was Grady Jared Kate Nellison.
Two players. I was like, man, you guys are impressive.
Yes they were.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
They were running around, but once again, the Broncos expose
more of the weaknesses. Yeah, and the Falcons front seven
in their secondary.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And that's not to take anything away from bow the
offense or anything like at all. They just I mean,
like I just didn't realize they were as bad as
they were. Like it was watching that thing, You're just like, oh, wow,
these guys are even worse than I thought, and I
already thought they weren't good.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
That's very That's once again, that's very interesting because if
I'm not mistaken looking at the standings for the NFC South,
I mean, they may.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Be in the league lander second.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Really yeah, like whatever with the with the Bucks, the
NFC South of itself is just trash and that's why
the Broncos swept him.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
But the Bucks and the Falcons figured to be better teams.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I talked to Mark Zenno on Sunday morning, and he
like it was funny because, like, talking to him, I
expected him to be more upbeat about.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Atlanta's chances and he was not. I mean, he's a
nineteen ninet.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
The game down there in Atlanta and you know we
were talking about it, He's like, man, he's like everybody's
talking about this offense, but it hasn't gone up against
a good defense, and I don't think people realize how
bad this defense actually is. It was nothing but complimentary
Bonick and Sean Payton and all that stuff. But man,
like it was funny listening to that. I was like, Wow, Okay,
these Atlanta media is really down on this Falcons team
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relative to what it is that their record is thus far.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Well, the biggest thing.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Is and this is where the skill set of bow
Knicks definitely comes in. Like we talked about it leading
up to that game, how Kirk Cousin could not move
and I know some coordinators love that old NFL type quarterback. Well,
he's going to go through all his progressions. He's going
to do exactly what I want him to do. But
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for me, that ship hissel. The game is no longer
what it was back in nineteen eighty three or two
thousand and one. You need a guy under center that
can make plays with his feet, or.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
At least extend plays with his feet. Yes, yeah, And this.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Is why I was hoping to see more of Michael Pennix.
And I thought maybe with the game being out of
hand as early as it was, that they would put
Pendix in to get him more grooved into.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You didn't throw a fourth pass, so he played most
of the fourth quarter. You know.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It's funny enough their quarterback rating was almost exactly the
same Kirk Cousins quarterback grade, who was sixty eight point nine.
Pennix two of four for twenty four yards was sixty
eight point eight.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
That's wow.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
That's crazy, almost mirror, you know, But that that tells
you that if you are an offensive play caller and
you're still looking for that old throwback guy, you better
have an old throwback system because it's not gonna work
in the current NFL.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It's just not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
That's why I think it was difficult, and I didn't
understand the signing in the first place, But that was
why it was difficult to sort of.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Recraft your entire offense.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
When the Colts made the switch out of Richardson into
Joe Flacco, I'm like, you have to read to your
whole offense. Joe Flacco was literally the opposite player of
Anthony Richardson, Like, like, what are you doing with this
guy as a backup? Because this doesn't make much sense
to me. Well, because the idea is that there was
a belief in the fact that Joe Flacco was a
veteran mentorship, Yes, mentorship.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I don't know how much you can go with that
because different skill set. Well, looking at what Joe was
able to do coming off the couch in Cleveland late
in the season, that is what was something that was
desired by maybe Arthur Blank and you know, not the
Blank excuse me, Jim Ursay out there with the Colts.
But understanding once again, after a couple of games and
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sample size that no like a backup quarterback could come
in and he can shine.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Because of the backup quarterback, no one has high expectations.
But when you.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Are put in the lineup two three four weeks, people
figure you out.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, well, the book on Joe Flacco is sort of
out there. It's not like the figure the books out there,
the book of Flacco. But I mean that's the thing,
like nobody, nobody game plans a backup quarterback because they do.
It's very light. You know, you're not you're not game
planning much on the backup quarterback. You're going after the quarterback,
right right, And so like Joe flacko is a substitution role. Yeah,
I get it, But extended playtime, like you have to
revamp your entire offense. The passing skeleton, I guess can
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be the same. But I mean, Anthony so much what
Anthony Richardson does and Shane Stiken does is predicated on
his quarterback run on the football.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Asked Justin Herbert, Ask Jalen Hurts, ask Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And that changes the dynamic of how people defend you.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
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Speaker 5 (15:23):
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Speaker 2 (15:36):
We talked about it earlier.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
With the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight. Netflix had a
Friday Night to Remember, or basically to for cats, but
the NFL reportedly is standing firm with the streaming giant
after the live boxing event that attracted plenty of viewers
but left plenty of them disappointed in the experience, with
the streaming pausing, having to circle a wheel of death
or not connecting at all.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Eric Fisher reports that the.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
NFL still has confidence in Netflix ability to deliver a
pair of Christmas Day games Chief Steelers and Ravens Texans,
despite the widespread slowdowns, outages, and or grainy images from
the Jake Paul versus Might Tyson fight. The NFL has
one hundred and fifty million reasons to stand by. That's
the fee Netflix is paying for those two games alone,
one hundred and fifty million. That's seventy five million dollars
(16:21):
a game to streatment. The issues nevertheless caused the league
to ask again about the technical infrastructure at Netflix. There's
a sense of relief that the problem happened now, putting
Netflix on notice with the problem that needs to be
fixed for the next thirty seven days. Sam Newman of
Awful Announcing dot Com obtained internal Netflix email that seemed
to reluctantly acknowledge the problems, saying quotes this unprecedented scale
(16:42):
created by many technical challenges, which to launch team tackled
brilliantly by prioritizing stability of the stream for the majority
of viewers.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
The memo reportedly said, I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Sure many of you have seen the chatter the press
on social media by quality issues.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
We don't want to dismiss the poor experience of some members.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
We know we have room for improvement, but still consider
the event a huge success.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I don't know about some members.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It felt like most, if not all, members who tried
to watch that fight encounted something less than the no
different from TV experience, which was claimed whatever the internal
law is well corporate bs memo, that might be it's
a threat level midnight there at Netflix, knowing that if
they are not able to get Christmas Day NFL streaming,
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you're in a whole different world from boxing.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, it's a whole different world.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
And I can tell you that we experienced it on
two of our televisions because we were wondering.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
What was going on right up until the fight. I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, right up until the like when Tyson was walking in,
I was still getting the wheel and having a reset.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
The audio went out twice some.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Almost like that that apple spinning wheel of death.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I like to call it. When you see that on
your computer. Yeah, listen really quickly.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Netflix will have to do something about it.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
They don't.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
This is going to be a major issue because so
many people are going to be watching those holiday games,
and you don't want to be made the mockery of
all the social media.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I mean, if you, like I said, there's one thing
to not be able to do a boxing match, it's
quite another thing to not be able to get the NFL.
That is a whole different ratings animal and a bigger
technical challenge. Scaling at this kind of is not that difficult.
So I don't understand what the issue was with Netflix.
You should have anticipated this, but I guess we'll see
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if they're able to do. Two debris fell from the
roof onto the field at att stadium hours before the
Texans and Cowboys game. Hours before kickoff of tonight's Texans
Cowboys game at at and T Stadium, a piece of
debris fell from the roof onto the playing field. Fox
four and Dallas described the debris as a large piece
of metal which fell.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
As the roof was being opened at the Cowboys home field.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
No one was injured, but it fell near several people
who were on the field preparing for the TV.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Broadcast and obviously raised some safety concerns.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
We can confirm a piece of metal came loose and
fell to the field while the roof was in the
process of opening.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
There were no injuries. It's being reviewed further into this.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
In regarding the ability to reopen the roof, safety will
be able impossible, the Cowboys said in a statement. That
statement was released about two hours prior to kickoff. You
ever had any stadium falling apart on you when you played?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
No, I had not.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
But the first thing I was thinking was, you know
how much you get for a slip and fall. I mean, listen,
when we sat here, we saw the debris, this kind
of fall. It was like this long elongated piece of
sheet metal that some guy had to go into raptors
to reconnect, and the players had to be ushered off
to the field. But for a stadium as big and
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as large as Dallas Stadium is, I think that was
the stadium that hosted the Jake Paul fight, it is
right that you would have everything pretty much intact, But hey, man,
I would have fell on the ground like, oh my
neck in my back.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And your crack.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I had to get a Kaya reference in there after
the freaking nasty went earlier. Guys, the the Simpsons production
is keeping the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And Cowboys from being flexed. You heard that right. Put
the pitsforks and towrdses down.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
They're not gonna do any good potential flexing of the
upcoming Cowboys game out of key windows because of the
fact they lose a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
The week fourteen Monday Night.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Game between the Bengals and Cowboys will not be going
anywhere thanks to Homer Bart, Marge, Maggie and Lisa.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
And the rest of the people that live there in Springfield.
J Morrison at SI dot com.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Since the game isn't eligible to be moved because of
all the artwork, voiceovers, and other work that has already
been done, for the Simpsons alternate broadcast even without the
Simpsons extravaganza, and the bar is pretty high for a flex,
even higher for a Cowboys game, And indeed the Bengals
Cowboys game was picked due to the extreme high unlikelihood
that it would have been flexed in any event. So
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the Bengdols, who are currently four and seven and possibly
four and eight by kickoffs they lose to the Steelers,
were manifesting five and seven for grant over there doubt,
and the Cowboys, who uh three and six, basically gonna
be either four and eight or three and nine and
a kickoff, they will still be the Bengals and Cowboys
three weeks from tonight. Even with the expanded ability to
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flex with Monday Night Thursday Night joining Sunday Night as
of last year, an increased number of standalone windows and
the proliferation of bad teams in twenty twenty four makes
it hard to fill.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Up the one game only windows with good games. As
recently as week seventeen, we has eight standalone windows.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
The solution to that issues at more games, more teams,
and the league would have to expand and make that happen.
So are we at all concerned about first of all,
the Broncos being flexed out, which I'm not against the
Browns on Monday Night. And then second of all, you know,
how do we feel about the inability to flex the
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Cowboys and Bengals out of primetime due to the fact
that all this production went into an alternate broadcast on
The Simpsons that to my knowledge, no one asked for.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Well, we've seen the NFL.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Do a lot of those slime games. We've seen them
do tours throw the addition of games, so this is
something brand new. But I'm just thinking about whomever came
up with this idea and presented it, they did.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Not think about all.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
The minutia was gonna take to kind of pull pull
this off. But me, being a fan of The Simpsons,
I like it for sure, And just think about it.
I mean, The Simpsons is kind of like the longest
running animating program.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Of all time, So you can't disrupt that.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
You can't get rid of Barge, I mean, Mars, Barge, Barge.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I just just March and Krusty the Clown. You just
can't do it.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That's the only Simpson I can do is March. I'm
better with South Park characters or Gardner Minshew will remain
the Raiders quarterback. In week twelve, the Raiders made a
big change to their offense when they fire an offensive coordinator,
Luke Gets last week. They aren't planning any big moves
this week at Coach Antonio Pierce said at the press
conference today that Gardner Minshew will remain in this team
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starting quarterback against the Broncos in Week twelve. Minsh was
thirty to forty three for two hundred eighty two yards,
two touchdowns and an interception in Sunday's thirty fourth.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Nineteen loss to the Dolphins. Pierce thought, he said.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Pierce said he thought the passing offense was more efficient
and more crisp in Scottie Turner's first week calling the
offensive place got her, of course, famously the son of
North Turner and recently the OC at.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Washington before a ban Me took over there.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
He added that Minshew did a good job of managing
the offense and keeping the ball out of harms away
before being picked off.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'll try to push for a comeback late the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Then, she opened the season as the starter, but was
benched in favor of Aiden O'Connell. Minsh moved back into
the number one job after O'Connell injured thumb. Then O'Connell
and will be eligible to come off the IR for
another week. How do we feel by Gardner Minshew being
the quarterback against the Broncos?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Do we care?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Broll? You make care just ever so slightly, because remember
until that PS two interception, things were looking really daunting.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
For the man they got the ten nothing lead. Yes, yes,
so I think for me aight.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
And O'Connell is a better pocket passer than Minshew is,
but Minshew is a better quarterback improvisation. So it's the Raiders.
I don't like it, but you still want to make
sure you're on your p's and q's when Gardner Minshew
is on the center.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, and he's he's beating the Broncos before.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
He's actually a good luck here in Denver overall he
beat the Broncos was the Jacksonville Jaguars. I remember that
during Vic Fangio's Sedley first year, and then of course
it was of course got out to a ten on
of league with the Raiders here as well. Gardner Minshew
might have a little sub a little Minshew.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Magic for Denver we'll see five.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Anthony Richardson is last in the league in completion percentage,
but first in yards per completion CLSE quarterback Anthony Richardson
is practically playing a different game than any other passer
in the league. His completion percentage on the season is
forty eight point five percent, approaching p Blew levels of offal.
But it's not just last in the NFL, it's worse
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than the NFL in many years. A last quarterback who
threw it he's to one hundred and fifty passes and finished.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
The season with the worst completion percentage than Richardson this.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Year was indeed Timothy Tebo in twenty eleven with a
forty six point five percent completion percentage.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
But unlike tv OH, when.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Richardson manages to complete a pass, he's hitting deep balls
down the field like no other player in the league,
averaging fifteen point six yards per completion this year. That
is more than a full two yards ahead of number
two Lamar Jackson, who's averaging thirteen point four. Last quarterback
who threw one hundred fifty passes and finished the season
with a better yards per completion average than Richardson was
Chris Chandler with the Falcons all the way back in
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nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
To no surprise that the.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Quarterback Richardson has been because it's consistent with scouting reports
on him when the Colts drafted him. He's got a
phenomenal arm, could throw deep balls like few other, but
he's not shown a consistent ability to command an NFL
style passing game. He questioned in facing the Colts is
whether the richards can just keep hitting deep balls and
get more consistent underneath.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
If you can, the Colts have something special.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
If you can't, they're gonna have to find an offense
that functions with a sub fifty percent passer.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
With Anthony Richardson, I think it's still too early to
really say what his projective future will be. But based
on the numbers that you're talking about, the kid has
talent right being able to average what he's averaged going
to pass, and you add that with his ability to
run the ball. I think more or less it's about
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changing the coasts offense to fit more of his skill set,
which would allow him to be really successful.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
But I still think.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
That what we saw, even though small stamma size in Florida,
that can be enhanced over time if done the right way.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
For Richardson, yeah, he's you know, he's gonna need a
little bit more work. They knew that when they drafted.
They knew he was young, they knew it was going
to take a little time with all that. But he's
just fascinating that he is just able to connect on
the deep ball as much as he is while simultaneously
not being alilable to hit water if he fell out of.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
A boat underneath six.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
We talked a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
About Justin Tucker and how he's been in his own
head and missing field goals. After his two misses, he
is no longer the most accurate kicker in NFL history
because of the streak he's been on this.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Year with missing kicks.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Eddie Pinero is now the most accurate kicker in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
The Panthers were on their bye week this week, so
kicker Eddie Piniero went to Florida to visit his father,
Eddy Senior, recently.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Had a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
While he was away, he became the NFL's all time
most accurate kicker. Ravens kicker Justin Tucker missed two field
goals and Sunday's loss the Steelers, dropping his career accuracy
to eighty nine point three four eight that's four hundred
and eleven of four to sixty. Pinero has a career
mark of eighty nine point three eight one one oh
one of one thirteen. I would rather, definitely rather get
it hitting a kick or something, obviously not on somebody
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else's downfall, Pinero said via Darren Gant of the team website.
But at the end of the day, justin Tucker's the
greatest of all time. The amount of kicks he's kicked
I've kicked, He's kicked four times the amount of kicks
I've kicked. And to stay at that level, him being
a seven time pro bowler, I mean, there's no question
he's a grace of all time. Tucker has made sixty
one or ninety two kicks of fifty yards a longer
his career. The Ara's only attempt at thirteen such kicks,
making eleven chill He it's Paniro's It's.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
The top the old time record book.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Having discovered the news from his friends alearning to him
and after seeing a post on social media when I
got in the first person I saw was Hunter and
hold her Johnny Hecker and I turned to Johnny and said,
do you think he knows long snapper? JJ Jansen said,
and Johnny kind of looked at me with the ryot
smiles said, I think he knows.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I think he knows. And we texted him, Wow, oh my.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Goodness, how would you like you go to visit your
dad down in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He's had a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It's the bye week, and you become the most accurate
kicker in NFL history, meeting the minimum criterion simply because
the goat, Justin Tucker is missing kicks.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I've heard of game being fired on your day off,
but be elevated, Oh.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Your day off. That's a whole different level.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Is there a possibility that Tucker could somehow reclaim his
title by the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, he could, he needs to if he may.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
If Pinio didn't care and Tucker made I think three
of his next three, he'd be right back on top.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
So it's almost like a one week premature a celebration.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, if Piero misses one, or if Tucker, you know,
makes three in a row, I think then then it
flip flops back.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
But for for the moments, Eddie Piviero and not Justin Tucker,
as Justin Tucker has been for a long time.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I can easily see coming at this upcoming week Vegas Odds.
Now look at these two kickers and see who's going
to finish at the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That's I mean, to me, it's just funny because we've
been talking about Justin Tucker being a greenish cat for
so long, and he has been five percentage, but because
of last season there were a couple and now this
season has been horrible for him. He has fallen down
to where he's number two, and I that to me,
that's just I don't know, I like, I feel for
Justin Tucker, but at the same time, if you're Eddie Piero,
you gotta kind of.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Be like, well, I guess I am the greatest. You
back throw your way into it, but I'll take it.
I mean, it's not like Eddy Piero's been bad.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
He obviously has the high water mark after Justin.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Tucker, right, but at least you are on top of
the world for at least a week. That's better than
what some would be able to say. So hey, kudos
to him and tucker man gets a game.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Right, Yeah, that's he just got to And that's the thing.
Oh you talked about a.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Little bit earlier. But you've got to find a way.
You're a kicker, you got to quit pressing. You gotta
find a way to get back to to what made
you you find that confidence. You know, it's funny because
who's a talk to Louis agi Art the other Day's
you know, punted in the league for a while and
all that, and just getting a chance to talk to him,
and he's like, yeah, he's liked you talked to some
of these kickers, man, and they get in their heads
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and those crossbars become the small He's like, it's amazing
how small they get in your head when you're trying
to correct for stuff and correct for.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Things here or there. And it was just a fascinating conversation.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Cause you don't gonna have to talk to kickers too often,
you know, kickers and punters, it's not somebody that you
talk to too often in this business.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Well, to be toly On is, kickers and punters don't
want you to talk to them because think about it,
when the when the game is on the line, they're
preparing the kick.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
They're all isolated by themselves. Maybe that's the problem. Maybe
they need to.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Be more team players and then just instead of isolating themselves,
maybe make McPherson can make the freaking field goal.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah. Maybe, you know what, We're gonna get that Pete
story out of it. You interviewed, cooked up. We're gonna
make that happen. Get McPherson out of Cincinnati. Wow, Grant
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slash Contests. As we look back on this, this Broncos
game against the Falcons and try to put a bow
on this thing, what we are seeing is the national
narrative around the Denver Broncos and specifically bo Nix is changing.
Whereas a few weeks ago we certainly saw people ready
to jump in and back on bow and say that
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he was the worst thing to ever happen.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Are you referring to yourself. I've never said anything of
the sord.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Okay, I gave it his criticisms of poor play early
in the season.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I mean, waitman, you may not have said it.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Directly in those particular words, but I do remember you
not being a huge fan.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I don't know about not a huge fan. I just
said he wasn't ready to start at that point in time.
He looked like but he he's grown through it, and
specifically the last two weeks. It's really the last two
three weeks has really started to come into his own
as a as a starter.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
But the entire national narrative has shifted.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I mean, the people are falling all over themselves to
try to get to the front of the bus to
be the ones to praise Bonix.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Now, what did.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Those individuals have to do in order to correct themselves
other than just saying yes, he is making changes.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I'm I'm just asking for a friend. I mean, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I think that as long as they're being truthful about it,
I think they're good to go.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I think it's something they should do. I'm think they.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Should get a wheel of punishment type deal. Yes, okay,
well we can split the wheel. We can look into that.
See what they do. Here's here's Bill Belichick on the
Pat McAfee show talking about bow Nicks.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Well, I think Denver's played really well defensively, let's start
with that. And I think that that's been a big,
a big asset for the entire football team, especially the quarterback. Look,
there's no better feeling for the quarterback than to know
that if we don't turn the ball over, we're going
to get it back. We don't have to go out
and score forty seven points to win. That we can
count on our defense, and that's.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
A good thing.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Sean's a great coach.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
He does an excellent job of attacking defenses and mixing
up personnel. But obviously Nix is really a smart guy.
He has a lot of experience, you know, a full
college career and has adapted very well to the adjustments
you've seen, changing things at the line of scrimmage and
getting people in the right place and all that. So
his experience and his poise, But if he just doesn't
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go out there and you know, make a lot of mistakes.
They can win with, you know, twenty points, twenty four points.
They don't have to go out there and score you know,
forty nine. So take what's there, take the positive plays.
I think Sean really should you know, be in the
running for whatever Executive of the year, whatever.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
You want to call it.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I mean to play with, you know, a team that's whatever,
thirty percent under the strength based on the salary cap
and the dead money that they had to carry, like
they don't even have a full team here, and you know,
from a salary cap standpoint, but these guys are playing
really well, and you know they're in a tough division,
but it seems like they're getting better and they're good
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on defense. Overall, this has been a good defensive football team.
They didn't do well against Baltimore, but they played pretty
well all season.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Bill Belichick complimenting the defense out of the gate, book
ending that.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
By complimenting the defense on the back end.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
But you talk about bow and how great defense is
a quarterbacks best friends, you know, then you're not there's
not pressure on you to go out there and make
those kinds of plays. You can let it have them naturally,
just got to play not to make mistakes instead of
trying to press, as it were. And I think Bill
Belichick made some pretty good points, very valid points.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
The defense is the quarterback's best friend, even better than
an imagine every friend, because you know, you can see
the outcome. And I'm glad that Bill Belichick whatever went
out of his way to book in his statement by
talking about the defense. Because I don't know about you,
I don't feel as though the Broncos defense, their coaching staff,
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the defensive coordinators receive as much praise as they deserve.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I really don't feel as though they do.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
It's like there's a conversation about what took place in
the weekly game, and it is.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And the other thing and that, oh, by the way,
the defense did that. Now moving back on to bow
knicks in.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
The offense, and when the thing about where the defense
is at this point, they are the foundation to where
this team.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Is at this point.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
All you have to do is look at the game
on Sunday, no touchdowns, right, and the defense gave Bowen
office and coach Peyton several opportunities to put the number
of points.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And granted the offense.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Don't want to take anything away from them, they executed
the way they needed to execute.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But for me, I.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Don't hear enough people talking about the players on the
defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And it may sound crazy, Ben, because I played on
the defense side of.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
The ball, and it may say seem as though maybe
I'm a little.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Frustrated with that, and I can see that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I think my counterpoint there and I'm not disagreeing with
anything you say.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yea would just say.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
The counterpoint is, I think Broncos fans have become used
to having a great defense. I mean, this defense is
outperforming recent defenses, but the Broncos defense by and large
since the Super Bowl season, he has been really good.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
So because of that, and he said, well, well, the
expectation is always had to break the defense.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So they're celebrating the fact that there's some life to
an offense for once since honestly since before the Super Bowl,
since Peyton Manning was back in his prom See.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Okay, I get all that, and even mentioning Peyton Manning,
I go back to what took place in Super Bowl fifty,
how that happened, defense, defense.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And the season of all things. I'm glad you said it.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Who was there being validated yesterday at the game at
had time.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Who that's right, you've gone right. The no fly zone
service members as well, exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Of course, thank you for your servicemen and women of
the military.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I definitely appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
But yes, the no fly zone, they were being validated,
and they were being validated for a specified reason. So
for me, it is like, we can't overlook what's happening,
like Rodney Moss on the play yesterday, just knocking the
ball out of the air, and how much that he
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hasn't approved. And at the beginning of the season, people
were saying, you know what, we're not sure that we
white corner. Let's pick on him, That's what they were saying.
But was it still the same thing that, well, we
don't think he's going to play as well as he
played what he did.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
This Cousins takes it, loads it up home, rumble down
the west side line incomplete.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
He tried to squeeze the football in that time to
Darnell Mooney.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
The speech terri with.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Riley Moss, second year corner for the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Step first step, incomplete, second attempt. Hey, you see what
did they say? Right? They've been saying that ever since
I've played here.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
When there is some account of deflection by a linebacker
a guy on the secondary, what do you constantly hear
the fans saying and come play?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
That tells you right there the big best was this.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well, I'm not disagreeing with you by any stretch. I
think the way to the way I frame that is,
if bo Nicks and Drake mayswap places, would there be
any would any would there be any appreciable difference on
either team?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And the answer is probably no.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Drake May would probably be at roughly the level of
play there he has ten touchdowns, ain't us It would
probably be the offense would be roughly the same. So
you really think the Patriots offense would be roughly the same?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
So.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You know it's slightly look no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Slightly better because Bow and Mike at pink can do
certain things that I think Drake May has not shown.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I was not saying that he's not capable of doing him.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
But think about Bow extending plays with his feet right,
actually picking up Drake jar Bank's got that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
A little bit of that to him. So now there
he has a little bit of that. We haven't seen
it far, not much, just so far yet.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
But that's the thing that changes the Broncos offense that
bo was able to do, that being able to extend
and Coase Belichick kind of alluded to as far as
allowing bow to beat Bowl. Well right, And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I think Sean Payt would allow Drake to be Drake
and that that Guy's what I'm saying is, I don't
think there would be appreciable difference in scoring either way.
You swap both those guys, put them in the other situation,
and I don't think there's much of a different.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And why wouldn't be much of a different? Let me defense, they.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Were carrying them, and it's take away from both again
is carrying.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
The football team.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Atlanta got the test, Atlanta got six points in that game. Yes,
but and and by the way, Atlanta's defense is trash.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
My god, the defense is bad. Like I knew they
were bad, I didn't know they were that bad. Yeah,
I thought they were you talking.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
About on Friday when I was like, yeah, they're slow,
they're not very good.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But I didn't realize they were that bad.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I had a chance to talk to a couple of
individuals I know from Atlanta, who works who worked down
in the Atlanta area, right right, And it was the
concept was like, Okay, well they're trying to understand what's
going on with the Falcons defense. So I'm standing there
in the box and we're having this this conversation and
I'm saying, well, some of the issue is like when
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you look at the pass rush, guys don't seem as
though they have more.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Than one pass rush move.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's like they rush to contact and then yeah, and
it's just like you're going to expose you're back in
on every single possession. And it's not that that Justin
Simmons is bad, Jesse Bates is bad, right, that the
secondary is bad, but you're going to get exposed when
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a quarterback has a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
You've got two guys.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
In that front seven that I thought are even starters
in this league, and that's Grady Jarrett Ye and kay
nellis what.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Happens to Matt Judon.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
But he looks like he does not know what he's
doing in that defense. It's not the same defense that
he's used to either. You gotta remember when he was
in Baltimore, it was straight downhill for him. He never
had to now he's dropping back sometimes he's got other
things going on.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I don't think he was much of it.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I think they saw the name and not the player
and went out and signed him.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah they did.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
But I'll say this one guy they do have on
the Falcons team that is a.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Baller and I like him, Kay Nellis, That's what I
say he was. The other one was Grady Jared Kate Nellison.
Two players. I was like, man, you guys are impressive.
Yes they were.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
They were running around, but once again, the Broncos expose
more of the weaknesses. Yeah, and the Falcons front seven
in their secondary.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And that's not to take anything away from bow the
offense or anything like at all. They just I mean,
like I just didn't realize they were as bad as
they were. Like it was watching that thing, You're just like, oh, wow,
these guys are even worse than I thought, and I
already thought they weren't good.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
That's very That's once again, that's very interesting because if
I'm not mistaken looking at the standings for the NFC South,
I mean, they may.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Be in the league lander second.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Really yeah, like whatever with the with the Bucks, the
NFC South of itself is just trash and that's why
the Broncos swept him.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
But the Bucks and the Falcons figured to be better teams.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I talked to Mark Zenno on Sunday morning, and he
like it was funny because, like, talking to him, I
expected him to be more upbeat about.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Atlanta's chances and he was not. I mean, he's a
nineteen ninet.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
The game down there in Atlanta and you know we
were talking about it, He's like, man, he's like everybody's
talking about this offense, but it hasn't gone up against
a good defense, and I don't think people realize how
bad this defense actually is. It was nothing but complimentary
Bonick and Sean Payton and all that stuff. But man,
like it was funny listening to that. I was like, Wow, Okay,
these Atlanta media is really down on this Falcons team
(12:13):
relative to what it is that their record is thus far.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Well, the biggest thing.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Is and this is where the skill set of bow
Knicks definitely comes in. Like we talked about it leading
up to that game, how Kirk Cousin could not move
and I know some coordinators love that old NFL type quarterback. Well,
he's going to go through all his progressions. He's going
to do exactly what I want him to do. But
(12:38):
for me, that ship hissel. The game is no longer
what it was back in nineteen eighty three or two
thousand and one. You need a guy under center that
can make plays with his feet, or.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
At least extend plays with his feet. Yes, yeah, And this.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Is why I was hoping to see more of Michael Pennix.
And I thought maybe with the game being out of
hand as early as it was, that they would put
Pendix in to get him more grooved into.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You didn't throw a fourth pass, so he played most
of the fourth quarter. You know.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It's funny enough their quarterback rating was almost exactly the
same Kirk Cousins quarterback grade, who was sixty eight point nine.
Pennix two of four for twenty four yards was sixty
eight point eight.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
That's wow.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
That's crazy, almost mirror, you know, But that that tells
you that if you are an offensive play caller and
you're still looking for that old throwback guy, you better
have an old throwback system because it's not gonna work
in the current NFL.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It's just not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
That's why I think it was difficult, and I didn't
understand the signing in the first place, But that was
why it was difficult to sort of.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Recraft your entire offense.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
When the Colts made the switch out of Richardson into
Joe Flacco, I'm like, you have to read to your
whole offense. Joe Flacco was literally the opposite player of
Anthony Richardson, Like, like, what are you doing with this
guy as a backup? Because this doesn't make much sense
to me. Well, because the idea is that there was
a belief in the fact that Joe Flacco was a
veteran mentorship, Yes, mentorship.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I don't know how much you can go with that
because different skill set. Well, looking at what Joe was
able to do coming off the couch in Cleveland late
in the season, that is what was something that was
desired by maybe Arthur Blank and you know, not the
Blank excuse me, Jim Ursay out there with the Colts.
But understanding once again, after a couple of games and
(14:24):
sample size that no like a backup quarterback could come
in and he can shine.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Because of the backup quarterback, no one has high expectations.
But when you.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Are put in the lineup two three four weeks, people
figure you out.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, well, the book on Joe Flacco is sort of
out there. It's not like the figure the books out there,
the book of Flacco. But I mean that's the thing,
like nobody, nobody game plans a backup quarterback because they do.
It's very light. You know, you're not you're not game
planning much on the backup quarterback. You're going after the quarterback,
right right, And so like Joe flacko is a substitution role. Yeah,
I get it, But extended playtime, like you have to
revamp your entire offense. The passing skeleton, I guess can
(14:57):
be the same. But I mean, Anthony so much what
Anthony Richardson does and Shane Stiken does is predicated on
his quarterback run on the football.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Asked Justin Herbert, Ask Jalen Hurts, ask Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And that changes the dynamic of how people defend you.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yep, NFL six pack coming up next, Rocous Country Night.
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Speaker 5 (15:23):
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can't find anywhere else. No. Six the Top six NFL
headlines what well.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
We talked about it earlier.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
With the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight. Netflix had a
Friday Night to Remember, or basically to for cats, but
the NFL reportedly is standing firm with the streaming giant
after the live boxing event that attracted plenty of viewers
but left plenty of them disappointed in the experience, with
the streaming pausing, having to circle a wheel of death
or not connecting at all.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Eric Fisher reports that the.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
NFL still has confidence in Netflix ability to deliver a
pair of Christmas Day games Chief Steelers and Ravens Texans,
despite the widespread slowdowns, outages, and or grainy images from
the Jake Paul versus Might Tyson fight. The NFL has
one hundred and fifty million reasons to stand by. That's
the fee Netflix is paying for those two games alone,
one hundred and fifty million. That's seventy five million dollars
(16:21):
a game to streatment. The issues nevertheless caused the league
to ask again about the technical infrastructure at Netflix. There's
a sense of relief that the problem happened now, putting
Netflix on notice with the problem that needs to be
fixed for the next thirty seven days. Sam Newman of
Awful Announcing dot Com obtained internal Netflix email that seemed
to reluctantly acknowledge the problems, saying quotes this unprecedented scale
(16:42):
created by many technical challenges, which to launch team tackled
brilliantly by prioritizing stability of the stream for the majority
of viewers.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
The memo reportedly said, I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Sure many of you have seen the chatter the press
on social media by quality issues.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
We don't want to dismiss the poor experience of some members.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
We know we have room for improvement, but still consider
the event a huge success.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I don't know about some members.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It felt like most, if not all, members who tried
to watch that fight encounted something less than the no
different from TV experience, which was claimed whatever the internal
law is well corporate bs memo, that might be it's
a threat level midnight there at Netflix, knowing that if
they are not able to get Christmas Day NFL streaming,
(17:24):
you're in a whole different world from boxing.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, it's a whole different world.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
And I can tell you that we experienced it on
two of our televisions because we were wondering.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
What was going on right up until the fight. I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, right up until the like when Tyson was walking in,
I was still getting the wheel and having a reset.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
The audio went out twice some.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Almost like that that apple spinning wheel of death.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I like to call it. When you see that on
your computer. Yeah, listen really quickly.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Netflix will have to do something about it.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
They don't.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
This is going to be a major issue because so
many people are going to be watching those holiday games,
and you don't want to be made the mockery of
all the social media.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I mean, if you, like I said, there's one thing
to not be able to do a boxing match, it's
quite another thing to not be able to get the NFL.
That is a whole different ratings animal and a bigger
technical challenge. Scaling at this kind of is not that difficult.
So I don't understand what the issue was with Netflix.
You should have anticipated this, but I guess we'll see
(18:23):
if they're able to do. Two debris fell from the
roof onto the field at att stadium hours before the
Texans and Cowboys game. Hours before kickoff of tonight's Texans
Cowboys game at at and T Stadium, a piece of
debris fell from the roof onto the playing field. Fox
four and Dallas described the debris as a large piece
of metal which fell.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
As the roof was being opened at the Cowboys home field.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
No one was injured, but it fell near several people
who were on the field preparing for the TV.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Broadcast and obviously raised some safety concerns.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
We can confirm a piece of metal came loose and
fell to the field while the roof was in the
process of opening.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
There were no injuries. It's being reviewed further into this.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
In regarding the ability to reopen the roof, safety will
be able impossible, the Cowboys said in a statement. That
statement was released about two hours prior to kickoff. You
ever had any stadium falling apart on you when you played?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
No, I had not.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
But the first thing I was thinking was, you know
how much you get for a slip and fall. I mean, listen,
when we sat here, we saw the debris, this kind
of fall. It was like this long elongated piece of
sheet metal that some guy had to go into raptors
to reconnect, and the players had to be ushered off
to the field. But for a stadium as big and
(19:35):
as large as Dallas Stadium is, I think that was
the stadium that hosted the Jake Paul fight, it is
right that you would have everything pretty much intact, But hey, man,
I would have fell on the ground like, oh my
neck in my back.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And your crack.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I had to get a Kaya reference in there after
the freaking nasty went earlier. Guys, the the Simpsons production
is keeping the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And Cowboys from being flexed. You heard that right. Put
the pitsforks and towrdses down.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
They're not gonna do any good potential flexing of the
upcoming Cowboys game out of key windows because of the
fact they lose a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
The week fourteen Monday Night.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Game between the Bengals and Cowboys will not be going
anywhere thanks to Homer Bart, Marge, Maggie and Lisa.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
And the rest of the people that live there in Springfield.
J Morrison at SI dot com.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Since the game isn't eligible to be moved because of
all the artwork, voiceovers, and other work that has already
been done, for the Simpsons alternate broadcast even without the
Simpsons extravaganza, and the bar is pretty high for a flex,
even higher for a Cowboys game, And indeed the Bengals
Cowboys game was picked due to the extreme high unlikelihood
that it would have been flexed in any event. So
(20:46):
the Bengdols, who are currently four and seven and possibly
four and eight by kickoffs they lose to the Steelers,
were manifesting five and seven for grant over there doubt,
and the Cowboys, who uh three and six, basically gonna
be either four and eight or three and nine and
a kickoff, they will still be the Bengals and Cowboys
three weeks from tonight. Even with the expanded ability to
(21:06):
flex with Monday Night Thursday Night joining Sunday Night as
of last year, an increased number of standalone windows and
the proliferation of bad teams in twenty twenty four makes
it hard to fill.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Up the one game only windows with good games. As
recently as week seventeen, we has eight standalone windows.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
The solution to that issues at more games, more teams,
and the league would have to expand and make that happen.
So are we at all concerned about first of all,
the Broncos being flexed out, which I'm not against the
Browns on Monday Night. And then second of all, you know,
how do we feel about the inability to flex the
(21:44):
Cowboys and Bengals out of primetime due to the fact
that all this production went into an alternate broadcast on
The Simpsons that to my knowledge, no one asked for.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Well, we've seen the NFL.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Do a lot of those slime games. We've seen them
do tours throw the addition of games, so this is
something brand new. But I'm just thinking about whomever came
up with this idea and presented it, they did.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Not think about all.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
The minutia was gonna take to kind of pull pull
this off. But me, being a fan of The Simpsons,
I like it for sure, And just think about it.
I mean, The Simpsons is kind of like the longest
running animating program.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Of all time, So you can't disrupt that.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
You can't get rid of Barge, I mean, Mars, Barge, Barge.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I just just March and Krusty the Clown. You just
can't do it.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That's the only Simpson I can do is March. I'm
better with South Park characters or Gardner Minshew will remain
the Raiders quarterback. In week twelve, the Raiders made a
big change to their offense when they fire an offensive coordinator,
Luke Gets last week. They aren't planning any big moves
this week at Coach Antonio Pierce said at the press
conference today that Gardner Minshew will remain in this team
(23:00):
starting quarterback against the Broncos in Week twelve. Minsh was
thirty to forty three for two hundred eighty two yards,
two touchdowns and an interception in Sunday's thirty fourth.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Nineteen loss to the Dolphins. Pierce thought, he said.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Pierce said he thought the passing offense was more efficient
and more crisp in Scottie Turner's first week calling the
offensive place got her, of course, famously the son of
North Turner and recently the OC at.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Washington before a ban Me took over there.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
He added that Minshew did a good job of managing
the offense and keeping the ball out of harms away
before being picked off.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'll try to push for a comeback late the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Then, she opened the season as the starter, but was
benched in favor of Aiden O'Connell. Minsh moved back into
the number one job after O'Connell injured thumb. Then O'Connell
and will be eligible to come off the IR for
another week. How do we feel by Gardner Minshew being
the quarterback against the Broncos?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Do we care?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Broll? You make care just ever so slightly, because remember
until that PS two interception, things were looking really daunting.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
For the man they got the ten nothing lead. Yes, yes,
so I think for me aight.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
And O'Connell is a better pocket passer than Minshew is,
but Minshew is a better quarterback improvisation. So it's the Raiders.
I don't like it, but you still want to make
sure you're on your p's and q's when Gardner Minshew
is on the center.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, and he's he's beating the Broncos before.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
He's actually a good luck here in Denver overall he
beat the Broncos was the Jacksonville Jaguars. I remember that
during Vic Fangio's Sedley first year, and then of course
it was of course got out to a ten on
of league with the Raiders here as well. Gardner Minshew
might have a little sub a little Minshew.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Magic for Denver we'll see five.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Anthony Richardson is last in the league in completion percentage,
but first in yards per completion CLSE quarterback Anthony Richardson
is practically playing a different game than any other passer
in the league. His completion percentage on the season is
forty eight point five percent, approaching p Blew levels of offal.
But it's not just last in the NFL, it's worse
(24:56):
than the NFL in many years. A last quarterback who
threw it he's to one hundred and fifty passes and finished.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
The season with the worst completion percentage than Richardson this.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Year was indeed Timothy Tebo in twenty eleven with a
forty six point five percent completion percentage.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
But unlike tv OH, when.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Richardson manages to complete a pass, he's hitting deep balls
down the field like no other player in the league,
averaging fifteen point six yards per completion this year. That
is more than a full two yards ahead of number
two Lamar Jackson, who's averaging thirteen point four. Last quarterback
who threw one hundred fifty passes and finished the season
with a better yards per completion average than Richardson was
Chris Chandler with the Falcons all the way back in
(25:33):
nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
To no surprise that the.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Quarterback Richardson has been because it's consistent with scouting reports
on him when the Colts drafted him. He's got a
phenomenal arm, could throw deep balls like few other, but
he's not shown a consistent ability to command an NFL
style passing game. He questioned in facing the Colts is
whether the richards can just keep hitting deep balls and
get more consistent underneath.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
If you can, the Colts have something special.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
If you can't, they're gonna have to find an offense
that functions with a sub fifty percent passer.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
With Anthony Richardson, I think it's still too early to
really say what his projective future will be. But based
on the numbers that you're talking about, the kid has
talent right being able to average what he's averaged going
to pass, and you add that with his ability to
run the ball. I think more or less it's about
(26:21):
changing the coasts offense to fit more of his skill set,
which would allow him to be really successful.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
But I still think.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
That what we saw, even though small stamma size in Florida,
that can be enhanced over time if done the right way.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
For Richardson, yeah, he's you know, he's gonna need a
little bit more work. They knew that when they drafted.
They knew he was young, they knew it was going
to take a little time with all that. But he's
just fascinating that he is just able to connect on
the deep ball as much as he is while simultaneously
not being alilable to hit water if he fell out of.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
A boat underneath six.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
We talked a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
About Justin Tucker and how he's been in his own
head and missing field goals. After his two misses, he
is no longer the most accurate kicker in NFL history
because of the streak he's been on this.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Year with missing kicks.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Eddie Pinero is now the most accurate kicker in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
The Panthers were on their bye week this week, so
kicker Eddie Piniero went to Florida to visit his father,
Eddy Senior, recently.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Had a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
While he was away, he became the NFL's all time
most accurate kicker. Ravens kicker Justin Tucker missed two field
goals and Sunday's loss the Steelers, dropping his career accuracy
to eighty nine point three four eight that's four hundred
and eleven of four to sixty. Pinero has a career
mark of eighty nine point three eight one one oh
one of one thirteen. I would rather, definitely rather get
it hitting a kick or something, obviously not on somebody
(27:41):
else's downfall, Pinero said via Darren Gant of the team website.
But at the end of the day, justin Tucker's the
greatest of all time. The amount of kicks he's kicked
I've kicked, He's kicked four times the amount of kicks
I've kicked. And to stay at that level, him being
a seven time pro bowler, I mean, there's no question
he's a grace of all time. Tucker has made sixty
one or ninety two kicks of fifty yards a longer
his career. The Ara's only attempt at thirteen such kicks,
making eleven chill He it's Paniro's It's.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
The top the old time record book.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Having discovered the news from his friends alearning to him
and after seeing a post on social media when I
got in the first person I saw was Hunter and
hold her Johnny Hecker and I turned to Johnny and said,
do you think he knows long snapper? JJ Jansen said,
and Johnny kind of looked at me with the ryot
smiles said, I think he knows.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I think he knows. And we texted him, Wow, oh my.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Goodness, how would you like you go to visit your
dad down in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He's had a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It's the bye week, and you become the most accurate
kicker in NFL history, meeting the minimum criterion simply because
the goat, Justin Tucker is missing kicks.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I've heard of game being fired on your day off,
but be elevated, Oh.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Your day off. That's a whole different level.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Is there a possibility that Tucker could somehow reclaim his
title by the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, he could, he needs to if he may.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
If Pinio didn't care and Tucker made I think three
of his next three, he'd be right back on top.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
So it's almost like a one week premature a celebration.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, if Piero misses one, or if Tucker, you know,
makes three in a row, I think then then it
flip flops back.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
But for for the moments, Eddie Piviero and not Justin Tucker,
as Justin Tucker has been for a long time.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I can easily see coming at this upcoming week Vegas Odds.
Now look at these two kickers and see who's going
to finish at the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That's I mean, to me, it's just funny because we've
been talking about Justin Tucker being a greenish cat for
so long, and he has been five percentage, but because
of last season there were a couple and now this
season has been horrible for him. He has fallen down
to where he's number two, and I that to me,
that's just I don't know, I like, I feel for
Justin Tucker, but at the same time, if you're Eddie Piero,
you gotta kind of.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Be like, well, I guess I am the greatest. You
back throw your way into it, but I'll take it.
I mean, it's not like Eddy Piero's been bad.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
He obviously has the high water mark after Justin.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Tucker, right, but at least you are on top of
the world for at least a week. That's better than
what some would be able to say. So hey, kudos
to him and tucker man gets a game.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Right, Yeah, that's he just got to And that's the thing.
Oh you talked about a.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Little bit earlier. But you've got to find a way.
You're a kicker, you got to quit pressing. You gotta
find a way to get back to to what made
you you find that confidence. You know, it's funny because
who's a talk to Louis agi Art the other Day's
you know, punted in the league for a while and
all that, and just getting a chance to talk to him,
and he's like, yeah, he's liked you talked to some
of these kickers, man, and they get in their heads
(30:34):
and those crossbars become the small He's like, it's amazing
how small they get in your head when you're trying
to correct for stuff and correct for.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Things here or there. And it was just a fascinating conversation.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Cause you don't gonna have to talk to kickers too often,
you know, kickers and punters, it's not somebody that you
talk to too often in this business.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Well, to be toly On is, kickers and punters don't
want you to talk to them because think about it,
when the when the game is on the line, they're
preparing the kick.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
They're all isolated by themselves. Maybe that's the problem. Maybe
they need to.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Be more team players and then just instead of isolating themselves,
maybe make McPherson can make the freaking field goal.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah. Maybe, you know what, We're gonna get that Pete
story out of it. You interviewed, cooked up. We're gonna
make that happen. Get McPherson out of Cincinnati. Wow, Grant
Broncos Country, and I'm back into this
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