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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Some technical difficulties. I guess it seems with U Ben's microphone,
he's he's on. It's just your mic was on, but
he wasn't indicating. So it's try it again, all right,
can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Now?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
There it is?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Okay, it's just not lighting up. Yeah, I just said
the board wasn't lighting up there. I was like, what's
the world's going on here? I'm pushing every button on
the man. He was hitting the button like it was
a game of whack a mole.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I it was, uh, yeah, that was a moment there.
I was like, all right, I don't don't know what's happening,
but all of a sudden, the lights decided to just
go out on me.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
So anyway, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Kids?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Broncos Country tonight? There's been already Nick ferguson what's going on?
Then you see it.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I'm not eating Brussels trouts. I just I don't care
what was going on that last show. I'm sorry what
I'm not sprouts? Yeah, with all that stuff that was
going on, like, I couldn't even I wasn't there for
the beginning of it.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, But apparently Ryan as a gesture to his.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Wife, which you know. Good for him is, uh, we'll
go and order. They'll order appetizes. His wife Likesrussells prouce,
he doesn't, and he will split the Brussels sprouce.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
With her, so he would suffer. So he'll eat them.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
And I'm like, why don't you just get a half
order and let her eat them and you get something
you like and then you're both happy.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Well, okay, why not just be honest and just say, well, well,
she knows he doesn't like him. Oh, she knows, she knows.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Okay, it does it anyway because he's a great person
and I'm a horrible human being.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
And I'm just like, I'm you know, I draw the
line way before that.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
I guess that would make me horrible too, because I'm
not eating something I don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Like I'm I'm just like, yeah, honey, you can get
a half order. I'll get a half order potato skins.
We'll call him even. Yes, there he is everything solved.
Or she could take a full order, eat half of them,
take the other half. Hole.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, apparently Brussels prouts are terrible reheated.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
I thought they were terrible, like the way they are,
but apparently they're terrible reheated.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I'll tell you this, man, I was but a time
really quickly. I know, you know, Thanksgiving this week, So
I said, Grant, I'm bet exactly the tell This is
great for this conversation. But once, by a time, I
did not eat Brussels sprouts. The reason I didn't eat
Brussels sprouts because growing up in an African American household,
that wasn't on the menu.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
That's why people food. I know what you're talking about. Wait, wait,
that's not what I said. That's not what I said.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Growing up in my household, we didn't eat that, just
like we didn't eat quinoa either.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's a white people.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Because I was my wife, My wife introduced me to that,
and I was like, what the.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Hell is queen? So I moved out here to Colorado.
So the first time I kim Wa was I was
in my thirties. Yes, so I didn't I didn't know
what Queenwa was. Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I didn't know what Brussels sprouts were because once again,
it wasn't a part of my culture.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
But now I eat them.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Because we my wife does a great job of kind
of startaining them and then kind of cooking, uh, like
like baking turkey bacon and mixing them together.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
And yeah, I'll tell you what, tell you what I'll do.
I'll come over. I'll just eat the turkey bacon and
you guys can't bust and we'll call it.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I's got the turkey bacon right off there, so you're
just gonna pick.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
I'll pick through the busters of problems, eat the turkey bacon.
We'll call it. Even I just know I my dad
didn't like him, and so we never had to eat
them growing up, which was drank because they're disgusting and and.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
I just never I've just never since and that's never
been a thing. So you eat uh like, Hey, I
love broccoli, grab green peas.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I eat cauliflower. Yeah, I used to rice cauliflower to
as a rice substitute. What what I use it for?

Speaker 1 (03:37):
But I I listen, I understand Ryan's plight, why he's
doing it.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Uh, but is this something that I couldn't do.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I'm not gonna sit there and I'm not gonna suffer throat.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I love my wife, but I really love my taste.
But yeah, that's what we're saying. You know, I gotta
I really got to live with him.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
You know, it's like after me and after me and
the mississ be done. Then Oh, I got of the
taste buds right exactly, which in my case don't even
have that, but you know whatever, my taste book, Oh
I got Oh I got her my taste buds right now.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
But I'm taste buds working it through that. That's right. Yeah,
I've been. Uh that's all you have. I'm just saying, like, look,
you know, I'll be I dance with the one that
brought me. I'm just saying, listen, I get it. I
totally understand.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
I'm a firm believer, especially with the holidays upon us,
that uh one should not be forced or coerced into
eating something that they are not fond of. Is there
anything on the traditional turkey list that you don't eat? Well, okay,
Thanksgiving list. It all depends because depending on what in

(04:46):
the background you're from. No, I'm asking you specifically, is
there anything on the turkey list you don't eat?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Because like, I don't I don't really do dressing or
stuffing or anything like, I don't do that.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I just don't need it. I do stuffing. I mean,
I mean, you know, what this.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Not.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
There's not a limit to what I'm willing to try, Okay,
but if there's something I don't like after trying.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Then I'm done with it.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Because there is regular cranberry sauce in the can. Yeah,
and then there's the one with the actual cranberries, yes,
the round one.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
The solid yes, the good stuff. Yeah, I'm here for that.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
I don't like the cranberry and the can gelatinous you know, mutant.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Look, yeah, it makes that weird noise. Yeah. When it
comes out of there, you're like, oh no, no, I'm
kind of good, all right. And then it comes down
there like a red slimmer from Ghostbusters and like to
slice it. I'm not. I'm not doing that. So I
don't do like, I don't do potato salad. I don't
do stuffing. Who's having potato sauce? I think went here,

(05:51):
somebody brought some, and I'm like, what we do it? Well,
we did have almas in it. I don't remember. I
just remember being no, I ain't am right. I don't
do devil eggs either. I don't do the devil legs.
See I love devils. Okay. Yeah. When I was a kid,
I liked them for whatever reason. Like once I hit
my teenagers, I didn't like him anymore. I don't know why.
You know what, I found that very interesting.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Uh, that should bring that up, because it just seems
as though as you get older, your tastes but seemed
to change. Things that you loved as a kid. You
don't love anymore. Things that you didn't.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Like as a kid. Now you hated onions as a kid.
Now you know, I put them on a lot of stuff.
But yeah, it's it's funny how stuff changes like that.
I couldn't do I couldn't do that otherwise, I think
I'd eat just about everything for Thanksgiving, just about everything.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
So I have to ask this, and you know, listen
to chime in on it, and you could do the
same things. Act if you go to someone's home own
Thanksgiving and let's just say they serve you something that
you don't really like, do you suffer through it and
you eat it?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Or do you let them know, like, hey, I don't
eat this, Well what do you serve? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I fixed my own plates, so I'm a big boy.
I fixed my own plate, so I don't have to
worry about that. Well, some people, like you know, they
had like serving lines or whatever. You go grab your fool.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
So some stuff I don't like, Well yeah, but sometimes
you go to someone's place and you know, well maybe
they are kind of putting it together for you.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Ryan as a serving of food. I got mine. Let me,
uh you know how I'm all weird die right now.
I got you know, there's there's ways to there's ways
to slide through there. I load up my surface area
with the things I like early.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
And then I sit down and I'm like, I sit
down and I go, oh, I just there was no
room on my plate back. But when I go back
for seconds, I'm gonna, oh, I'm gonna get some and
you know what, ninety minutes from then or whatever when
seconds come for sixty minutes from them, when seconds come around,
they've forgotten, they've forgotten. I just get my my more
of what I like. See, this is like the Macavelian

(07:46):
stuff here. I just tell them now, I'm not gonna
eat it.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
This dude's like son sou out here enjoying it. Thanks
you guys want to know Machiavelian.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
I was about to attend Thanksgiving with uh my beloved
girlfriend's family. We found out uh no mashed potatoes, no
mac and cheese, and we will now be spending Thanksgiving
with my family.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Wow, you switched families oversides.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Admittedly, No, there's more to it than that. Okay, it
could have It could have been a factor.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
What kind of Thanksgiving is it when you don't have
mac and cheese and mashed potatoes?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
That was my question. That was my question.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
No, I can see the mac and cheese getting skipped on,
but potatoes, like that's a staple.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Mac and cheese. It just depends on what region of
the country you in because some some places they don't cheese.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
And here's the crazy thing, Ben, the mac and cheese
was more acceptable when we when there was pushback on
this concept. There was like maybe mac and cheese, but
not the mashed potatoes.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Is your girlfriend's family just hate the Irish or something?
And we've had here's the thing we've I've had with
my girlfriend for a while.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
I've done Thanksgiving with them before, never an issue until
this year to where there is a decision made by
the host of this year's Thanksgiving that man, I don't
want any of the white star vegetables.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, you know what I know, in certain relationships there
are deal breakers, right, That could be a deal breaker
if I'm meeting.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Your parents for the first time.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, right, and you're refute like you guys, I'm gonna
break selman.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
If you don't want it, don't eat it.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
That's that's exactly what I said, Like, we'll bring it.
We'll bring it for ourselves because we want it. Yeah,
you don't have it. That's a great solution here for
everyone else too. We're not going to just bring stuff
for us.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Okay, So is it is it rude in this particular
situation where someone I don't know changes the me and
you and they don't have what you want for you
to for you to bow out well, or is it
better to kind of go there and if he has
something you don't eat, just say I'm not gonna eat it.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
How long have you known? How long have you known
these people? I've known them for multiple years.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, then it is totally permissible to bow out all
that kind of stuff if it takes the time and
you got to go to make the first impress, shouldn't
all that, That's one thing. But bro, if it's eight
you're eight years deep and they're all like, we're not
doing potatoes they.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
And I will say.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
They eventually wore down and they're like, okay, we can
maybe we can maybe have some potatoes for you guys,
and we're like, sure for just us, Well, of course
we'll be the only one eating. Everyone else involved except
for the one person making us.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Think about the mashptato.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
We're saying to me and my girlfriend, thank you God,
we wanted mashed potatoes.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
No card thing, like I said, dietary, it's.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Just a weird I think it's to you know, stir
the pot. I think that's honestly what it's about.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Okay, I'm just wow.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I've never I was like, this is one of the
I think Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
I think turkey. I think mashed potatoes. That's number two.
I'd say that's like peanut butter and jelly, they go
hand in hand.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, I mean it's turkey, it's mashed potatoes, and it's.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Green like green bean like that. There's a trip, Holy triumvirate.
Did you say green beans not green bean, casserole not
green kettle? Well, either way is some sort of green
bean acouter mom?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Well, no green bean, no green beans castle roll.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, I'm not going to line them out. I'm not
I can do the cast role. I'm okay with it,
but I mean green beans in this instance, like.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
That's the whole. That's the first three things you think
about when you think of I mean like that or
stuffing used to be the fourth one, right, Yeah, and
once again it comes with the turkey.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, well, well you think maybe from what Za is
talking about, no mass potatoes, no gravy.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Is there is this a no gravy household.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
No, there'll be gravy. I was tempted to be like, well,
we don't want turkey there, I was. I was tempted
to put it back on the other front. Yeah, you
don't want mashed potatoes there, Well, we don't want turkey there?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
How about that? Let's let's let's one up. Then this
is missile crisis, except with ice giving foods.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
This this is the definitely uh interesting for sure.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Who's gonna back down? Five six, six nine zerols A
text on which is now working. By the way, after
all that rigmarole I had to go through yesterday to
get it to work. Quite a few different texts coming
in here. I'll get to some of these.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Somebody asked if Shad or Sanders Jersey from the game
against the Raiders getting.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Sent to Canton.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
That's Brian and Sid Can I blame that on him?
Always stop it? She do or will get to start again.
We had the Shelby on I don't know if you
had that audio zac.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Shelby Harris was on with Karrie Sports earlier was talking
about uh, Shador Sanders Okay, I'll get it ready, I'll
get it ready.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Okay, Well we got that audioce some world play there,
but yeah, he was talking about what the locker room
was like, and of course Shelby. It's funny because I
was watching a game and I was talking to this
guy that was sitt next to as a friend mine,
and I was say, this's my boy, Shelby Harris right there.
He's playing in this game. And it looked at Shelby
got the sack at that exact moment, and so Grant.
And now we're talking about last night because Grant was
doing like the same thing. He's like, yeah, I talked

(12:35):
to him all the time when you OCD he got
that exact moment that we were saying, and I was, oh, man,
that was cool for me.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
I am glad that Shudor was able to have that
the success that he received. H I don't think I've
ever seen a quarterback under so much scrutiny like Shador.
We all know what happened with him as far as
the draft process, and I still think it's ridiculous that

(13:02):
he didn't receive any reps leading up to the point
where he was thrust in the game after Dylan Gabriel
got injured. By no means, was his debut as a
starter against the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Was it perfect? No one else's.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
No player typically grades out one percent, especially when you're
coming in in that situation as a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
But I was happy to see the things that he did.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
There are positive things to build on, and it just
shows you what the player is capable of when you
give them ample amount of practice time with the starters.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, I mean he's gotta quit bail out the back
of the pocket and you know, taking those those stupid
sacks and trusting his arm little too much.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
There's some different things in there.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
But what's that well, but I mean, you know what
I'm talking about, how he tries to bail out the
back door, turns his back down the field, and then
flips it back around. I mean, you got away with
that in college, I could get awa vid here. There's
a few things to correct, There's always things to correct.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Right, But he did enough to win. What are we
really doing here? Okay?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
I think sometimes when we look at players, and mostly quarterbacks,
there's an over analyzation of college quarterbacks and pro quarterbacks.
Everyone's looking for perfection. You're not really going to have
that per se.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah. No, I'm with you on need. I don't want
to overscrutinize it. But he did enough to win. He
didn't enough to deserve another another stab at it and
see what he's got. He wasn't you know. It wasn't
a great performance. It wasn't a bad one, but he
did enough to win. And there seemed to be a
bit of an energy with the Browns. Shelby Harris, you know,
was on earlier and had she just talked with them.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, it was good, and I think it was It
was encouraging, you know, and I think that was the
best word, It is encouraging. You saw some of the
traits that kind of sets him apart from other people,
but then also you saw that, like you know, he
does have a good touch on the ball, he has,
he has good awareness, he moves very well inside the pocket,
and that's was really with him, you know, getting his
further reps in the offense since camp, you know, and

(14:58):
so that's you know, it's encouraging. Like I said before,
he's encouraging. He just you know, obviously he's going to
get better and better.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
As he gets more comfortable, as he as he established
himself a little bit more. But you know that's you know,
what the defense likes to see. You know, it's been
a lot of time. So you saw a playgo for
forty yards in the air like that. That's exciting for
us and that helps us, you know, to going and
make plays because when you see the offense is able
to move the ball at times and it's not necessarily all.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
In the defense, it does make you, you know, maybe
that ability to play a little bit more free. So
it was exciting to have him around, as exciting for
him to you know, he has his or about him
as we all know, like he knows how to handle himself.
He knows how to command the huddle, he knows how
to command the locker room, knows how to talk to people.
So you know, he has traits that actually and gets
him far in his league, and obviously this is one start.

(15:48):
But you know, the goal for the Browns and for
all of us is that it is just you know,
whatever the situation and the solution may be, you know,
it's to start to the answer in the future.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Why you go, I mean, it seems like I mean,
as somebody that's in that locker room, and he seemed
to be optimistic about it.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Well, me listening to what Shelby was saying, spoke to
the idea of okay, well, the defense has a little
buy in. And that's one aspect of this game that
most people in the media and the fans overlooked is
what's happening in the locker room.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
The coaches and the front office.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
People may have their guy and feel what they feel,
but it's about what the guys in the locker room
feel for one another. And I can attest to that
because when we had Jake Plummer versus Jay Cutler, there
was a difference.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Jay Cutler was our quarter.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Was our one of our quarterbacks, eventually was named the
starting quarterback, but he didn't present the same type of
feel that Jake provided. And that creates someone of a
divided locker room where you had the guys on offense,
they were Jay Cutler guys.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Guys on defense, we with Jake Pumber guys.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
And with the situation with Shador, is that, yes, that's
what you want to see. You want to see the
ball moving down the field on a consistent basis. You
want to get some splash plays because that's kind of
exciting for the defense. You want a guy that can
stay on the field, who can move the offense to
keep you fresh defensively. So Shador did show some flashes.

(17:23):
So it's one of those things where you don't want
to build him up too much in this situation. But
more importantly, there's not a situation where you break him
down and you just evaluate him like he's a player
that has received starting reps.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
For sixteen seventeen weeks. That's not the case.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
And the Browns organization, those who were making their decisions,
they did him a disservice. They did him a disservice
because now he's going to have to go in and
play against Robert silin the forty.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Nine ers defense.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
That's going to be a tall task, that's going to
be entirely different from playing against the Raiders. But I
know there are those who are waiting to pick him
apart in that regard, but I would tell them, pump
your brakes. Did you do the same thing and keep
that same energy for other quarterbacks who were placed in
that situation and nine times out of ten and this
is gonna be no. Yeah, I mean that, And that's

(18:17):
sort of the thing.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
I mean, you go back and look at it what
Dylan Gabriel did over the season, and you could tell
you kind of.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Wasn't it right.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
We don't know if she door is it or not,
but there's a different energy there when they're playing and
there're certainly Shelly pointed out, we han't seen the ball
travel forty yards through the air all season. It's because
they hadn't had anybody throwing the ball, you know, down
the field, and so he's not afraid to do that.
That may help out a little bit. Those explosives have
been what the Browns have been lacking on offense.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
One of the things they've been lacking on offense have
been like a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
But you know that that should help even some things
that we'll see, we'll see what it is what it
is this week, But overall, I mean, you got to
get him a passing grade for the first start.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
You know, he went out there and got the dub.
Can't ask for more than that. Broncos Country Night backup
for this five six six nine zero sex line. We
got a game coming up. Spy Week is over.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
We got a game coming up Washington Commander's Sunday Night Football,
and the Commanders will try to get Jade Daniels back
for this one. I'm I don't know, man, I'm not
sure that it's uh that it's gonna be happening.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I don't know why would they try to get him
back to play for this particular game?

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Are you suggesting yes? No, that makes.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Absolutely They gotta win out. That's the old that's their
only chance they lose. And if they have MARIODI and
they're gonna.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Lose, well, the question becomes for dan Quinn, Adam Peters
and everyone in the Washington organization do you risk another
injury with Jayden Daniels? And the reason I say that
is because you're saying that they have to win out
every They have to win every single game, basically winning out.

(19:56):
The probability of that happening I think is slim to none.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
So do you want to risk that against this defense.
I say, no, I think you're three and eight at
this point. Okay, you've got that's what six games left.
You can finish nine and eight at best, and that
that gets you in.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
I don't think so. I don't know if it does
or doesn't. I mean, you've got a couple of teams.
You've got four teams I think that are in the
wildcard hunt that are all seven wins or better. Green Bay, Detroit,
San Francisco, and Seattle are all seven or eight wins,
meaning that they would have to basically lose out in
order for that to happen. Caroline had six and six,
Dallas five to five and one. You know, I don't

(20:41):
think it's it's likely, but you know how teams are though. Man, yeah, coach,
you're not wired to not you know, try to win games.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
This is why you have backup players, this is why
Mariota is on the roster. And oh, by the way,
you still have a defense and it will be up
to them to show this though they can slow down
the Denver Broncos. I mean, dan Quinn has taken over
to defensive calls, right, He's definitely taking over his calls.
Well once again, do you risk your long term solution

(21:13):
for short term results.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
But he is their risk.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
I mean, he's there inherents extra risk out of this,
and there's risk.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
In any other game.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Remember Dan Quinn was screamed at after that having Jane
Dames in the game against the Seattle Seattle Seahawks in the.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Fourth quarter, and it wasn't even him, it was Jane
who just went back in what wasn't supposed to be
going back in.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Well, either way, he was in the football game and
no one thought that he would get injured.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Trying to run around the right side, but it happened.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
And that's what I'm saying, Like it's it's I mean,
unless there's something that adds a compound injury to the elbow, uh,
then your risk, your injury risk is the same as
it always was for every game and every snap. And
I like for me, I just I don't know, I'm
not to not try to win games. I get it.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I understand where you're coming from. You still can try
to win games with Marcus Mario.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's terrible, Like, you're not gonna win with him. You
have him on your roster for a vison. If you
found somebody and you know.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Okay, So so let's fast forward in this kind of
mock up this scenario, they played Jane Dames. Now the
injury is to his non throwing on Let's just say
that he's trying to brace himself from either a ball
or being sacked by multiple Broncos players. And then, oh,
by the way, now he injures something else.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
The question will become, well, why did you play him
in this particular game? He could have you could have
saved it for next week.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
And even if he says that he's ready to play,
there's no different than Joe Burrow saying that he's ready
to play, or Baker Mayfield and.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
You know, playing this week, he's playing on Thursday night?
Is it worth it? That's that's the biggest.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Now, if if I was Todd Bowles and you're talking
about Baking Mayfield, then I can say, you know what,
We're still in the hunt, we're trying to stay ahead
of the Carolina Panthers. But still do you risk kind
of sacrificing a guy like Baking Mayfield?

Speaker 2 (23:13):
I say no.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
When I look at where the Washington Commanders find themselves,
and I look at the Cincinnati Bengals having Joe Burrow
in there may help them win one or two games.
It's not making them playoff bound, So why even risk it.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I mean they feel like that's the best chance to win.
That's what that's shaye see.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
And there's there's a currency to that too, because like you, you know,
as a coach, you gotta live it the shelf life. Man,
you don't win games, you gotta get bounced. Fans are
too impatient these days, like you're not. You don't you
don't get time to turn it back around and all
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
No, you don't get a chance to do that.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
But you put your future in jeopardy by riskinness. I
can see if we were saying that it's the final
two weeks of the season and either of these two
teams needed to win one of the two games to
get into the wild card.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Now I have to say, you know what, I might
consider it. I'm not.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's not a definite. I might considerate. But once again,
the Bengals are three and eight.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Well they got it. They gottah, I think so they
got it. They've got Jayden in practice this week. They'll see,
but I don't know if it's there. They're gonna they were.
I mean, I'll tell you guys, just for ten days,
they're gonna tell them if he's if he's able to.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Go or not.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Of course, in practice, he's gonna be able to go
because guess what, there's no game time pressure on him.
His opposing defense is a scout team defense, and basically
because he's coming up an injury, so they're not gonna
put game type of pressure on him.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
So he's gonna look fantastic.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, it's just I'm just reporting with their drying. I'm
not rendering the opinion here. It's it's like, if it's me,
it's probably a lost season. Probably could use the better
draft pick.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
You know, like, you're already three and eight seams. But
I'm also not wired to like until I'm eliminated. I'm
also not wired to dumb game. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
You're Mariota through seven games this year has only seven
touchdowns to five interceptions, where Jade Daniels, who played in
parts of six games, had eight touchdowns to only two interceptions.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Okay, but tell me this.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Let's talking about the Commanders, the three and eight jayde plays, right,
what is going to change for him offensively?

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Playing against the Broncos defense. What changes offensively his legs?
I mean the fact that he can move. I've seen
guys who can run in the Broncos defense. Guess what,
they swarm like a pack of wolves. I'm not disputing that.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
What I'm saying is is he got a better shot
of getting away that Marcus Marita does.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
If that is their only claim that, oh, well, his
legs are going to give him the ability to move
around in the pocket, Hey take your best shot.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
They give you an added dimension as far as that goes.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
But I mean, like end of the day, I don't
think either one of these like they may be able
to win with Jane Daniels, they're definitely not going to
win with Marcus Mariota.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I think we can just agree on that statement. Well,
what you're saying is true.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Well, looking at the limited amount of weapons that the
commanders have at their disposal, you are exposing your quarterback, right.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's like going outside but negative in the cold. Well,
well you know who's not going to have to go
out in the cold. Who's that? That's Bonix? Because the
Denver Broncos and a little bit of breaking news here,
have just locked up Luke Wattenberg on a four year deal.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Luke Weidenberg, Luke Wattenberg four year deal or good for him, no,
good for him?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Is paid.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, you know what, and that breeds higher expectations for
the group right to go out there and perform, because really,
do we see an offensive line group that one gets paid.
All of the guys to healthy three have been playing

(27:01):
consecutive games in consecutive season in the same system together.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Wadenberg's been kind of a weak link though, I mean
on that offense.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
I mean, I guess when you've had the other stuff
that you've had go on this year, it hasn't looked
quite as bad, and both found ways to work around it.
But of the five, he was clearly the weakest link
when we started the season.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
But that's the I would say the great thing about
being a sinner because you're booking by two guards and
then then you're booking by two tackles, So any deficiencies
that you might have, not saying that Wattenberg has an
observer amount of shortcomings and deficiencies, you.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Can cover them up.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah, I would say by the money, this probably means
Ben Powers is likely done here in Denver, just look
at the way the money and the expenditures are on everything. Obviously,
and I keep getting asked the same question by John
Franklin Myers. I don't think he's coming back. I don't
think the Rockets are offering him. I love miss player,
they love him as a player, but I don't think
he's coming back. While they drafted Savion Jones.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Well, you know, here's what where I look at it.
And I brought this up with Steve and Grant, and
I brought it up with Dave and Ryan, and no
one seemed to want to have the conversation about the
possibility of what happens when a team starts to play
well and your coaching staff and your roster gets raided.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
This is something that happens.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
So these guys who are currently on the Broncos team,
obviously you played for the team that the uniform that
you're playing. But my mindset was always that you played
for all thirty two teams because you never know when
the team is gonna make a decision to move on
past you when they say, well, either you two old,
injury or your salary is too much.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
So for a guy like John Franklin Myers, he's played.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Well, he's gonna get a contract on somebody. I just
don't think it's gonna be here. We'll see, because I
think they're gonna I think the next one's gonna be
Malcolm Roach and then we'll go from there and forget
Justice Trannaud.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, I mean you're gonna have to figure that one
out as well. Because the good news.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
For that though, is the single to Money's gonna come
off the books the end of this year, and so
you know you're with the Russ.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Money gone, Single to money gone.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
You move on from empowers, you can afford to Nod
and Roach in your draft class and have a little
bit of change to go out there.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
In free all.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
You don't have to be smart as far as what
you do because you're thinking about bow Knicks.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Bow Knicks has to be in the whole structure. That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
You're building all these contracts in now, like that's what
you're trying to do is build these contracts in now
so when it comes time to pay BO, you can
pay BO and then you know and continue to cycle.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
For this is a cycle that a lot of teams
go through trying to figure out the ross gymnastics, Who
to keep, who to pay, who to let go? Can
we go get a cost effective guy out of free
agency or Kobe bring in a draft.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Pick, draft a guy who to replace an expensive you
know those kinds of things.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Right now, you can afford to.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Pay everybody on defense because you got a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
On a rookie deal. When that evaporates, that's going to
be a difference.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
It's been all Brian mckferguson zach Seekers, not grant span
back there.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I did call your grants hoping the show.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Wucky idiot self flustered I could get the microphone to work.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
The Panels guy was just one of those, one of
those opers.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
But don't think zach Seekers that week loss over the
fact that you've been dating this young lady for eight years?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
What are you, uh, We're gonna make an honest woman
out of her? And man, don't answer that.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
I don't answer on the public thereway, I do not
answer that. That's almost I will say to two men's
point to the setup of the question.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Not the first time I've had to face this scrutiny.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I was getting grilled by uh some of her friends
during Halloween a matter of fact.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
But I've I've got I've got things in order. Well,
let me ask this question. Let me let me ask you.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
All right, you say you were being grilled by the
friends at during Halloween. Correct any of these friends that
you're being grilled by or any of them these individuals.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Are they married? No, sir, kidding? Okay, So if.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
They are not married, they should not be pressing you
into this situation.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
And even if they.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Were actually the way, the shouldn't be pressing in. They
should not be pressing you into this situation. So don't
answer man's question.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Which is an obvious setup. You know, he's too smart
to right smart fun if we've debated before, he's too
smart to fault for that. But good for you. How
old are you again? How old are you? Guess what
you can answer this one. That's just not a setup.
I am twenty six. I I gollan. It's basically high
school or right after. Yeah, we've got senior year high school.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Different high schools too, Okay, okay, right, So it's a
little bit this is like you're like, you know, thirty
five and you've been there, there's a little bit different different.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
If you're sad, I'm trying to help you out here. Now,
you got a chource, right, you got two people on
your shoulders.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I am one of them. You know which one knows.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Now I'm trying to give you one out and I'm
trying to help you out. Now, either you're going to
listen to me, or you're gonna listen to the other
guy on your shoulder to not answer this question.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
But yes, do not answer it.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
And then more poorly, you don't answer that over open airwaves.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I'm trying to help you out. All the fun out
of my setups. Man, it's like Thanksgiving. I'm not trying.
I've remember ready to crash and burn something here. Let's
see Ben.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Ben is that person who is the disruptor chaos. He
is like the Danos. He comes to your party, just
disrupts it and then leaves.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Right. You don't want you know, I'm trying to tell
him listening I'm saying anything, I don't know that. I'm
not do that. What I'm adans I'm more like Tony
Starks than anything else.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
No, No, that that doesn't work. I know you've liked
that comparison as far as you're concerned. Genius philanthropist see
at least Tony Starks trying to help out man, even
though some of his ways were little un orthodox.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
You, on the other hand, it's chaos, he said. I'm
LOOKI you chaos. Yes, you Stark would have that mic work,
and that's all I look. I offered to get inside
and fixed this. I offered to correct this thing.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
I had to hack the text line thing to get
everybody actually has.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
The text line yesterday. That was a nightmare yesterday. I
got it.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
You're welcome, all right, all right, Tony, I'm just saying,
oh my god, we're gonna get back to some football stuff.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
We uh we profit. By the way, I had the
text of the night here somewhere. Where was this.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
I gotta find this thing because it was great. I
gotta take back here, give me a second. I think
talking about the Brussels sprous thing earlier, he was saying,
if my lovely wife, who I adore, was dying and
the only way to save her was to eat Brussels sprouts,
I'd have to think hard about it.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I see, that's that's different. I'm like, load me up
on the Brussels sprouts. Get it.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
By the way, the text line is is ponying you
right now on this eight years.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Car warranties are ten years. See, that's drive is over.
This is what I try to protect you from. That's
exactly what I tried to protect you from. But no one.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
You let the devil on your soldier just kind of
suck you in Rocos Country.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Night back with some football after this
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