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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Us Brime time coming up here in just a little bit.
That's right, I said, Brian time because it's Thanksgiving. I'm
not sure if you did it on purpose. I do not,
but I tried to stumble back over it. And thanks
for selling me out there, Grant. This is gonna be
that kind of show. We got a ton of a
ton of guests today. Everybody wanted to get in on
the Thanksgiving show. Ryan Michael's going to join us here
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in about ten minutes. Paul Charchion, since he's not gonna
do his usual Thursday hit, we'll be here for a
Wednesday hit. Bottom of the hour. We got Nikki Javala,
who used to work the Broncos beat here, our good
friend and shorts the Commanders beat now and obviously the
Commanders are upon it. On Sunday Night Football, we have
her on at top of the seven o'clock hour, and
(00:40):
then of course in the NFL pick them coming up
at seven thirty. Always a fun time.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Look forward to seeing what great great matchups this week.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, there are there's some. There's some fubble that last
week hit some duds. That's some real duds. But this
week appears to or seems to have some some more
intriguing matchups.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, I guess we'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Because I thought the Rams Bucks game was going to
be a great game on Sunday Night last week, and uh,
that was ugly.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, Teddy Bridgewater got in that game.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Teddy two gloves.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I was like, wow, he's still around and speaking to
people that are still around, Nick Venette is still around.
The Seattle Seahawks put him on the active roster today.
Nick Venette is still around. How's that even possible? You know?
Beats mean good for him? Yeah, you know, I'm always uh,
I'm always here for for for anybody secured in the bag.
So a lot of fun with that. Yeah, bust prime
(01:29):
time eight o'clock guys. We always love doing that for uh,
for you guys, five six six nine zeros. The text line,
the text line is, uh, it's popping, it's working. It
looks like we've remedied everything.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
So good good for uh for all that he's got
to get that two factor authentication and yeah that's I'm
still you know, I don't know you guys too, So
well you're a hacker. I'm a slacker, but you you
stumbled over that. I saw you correct yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
There. See what we got here?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Ben?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Can you say we coming on the air tonight and
blame me? Okay, Brian, I will blame you.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh, I said.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It all happy Thanksgiving? You jive turkeys? Yeah, anytime you
get a jive turkey reference, your comment's gonna make it. Yeah,
your comet's gonna make it on the air anytime you
get one of those references. In So, I definitely definitely appreciate, uh,
appreciate that we got Commanders and excuse me, Chiefs and
Cowboys tomorrow. And I think Dallas gonna take Kansas City. Man.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I hope you're right, but I don't think you are.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
They're a better football team than they were we played them.
They got they got a couple of new bodies on
defense from trades, they got, they got a couple of
bodies back from from injury. Like their defense is actually
I'm not gonna call it good, but it's serviceable now
whereas it was non existent when we played them.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, and the offense is still rolling and coming off
that high of the comeback from twenty one down against
the Eagles. I see how it's gonna play. It could
play out that way. But I'm just I still think
the Chiefs are going to win this game. I think
it's gonna be close. I think it's gonna come down
to the wire, but not Chi Saint Dead yet.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I got a sneaking suspicion we'll see.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I hope you're right.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Brian Schottenheimer and Clayton Adams, who's the OC there was
the had previously been with the Arizona Cardinals and he
is widely credited for the sudden resurgence in the career
of Javonte Williams and the run game. You look what
he did for the run game in Arizona last year,
and how how Nason did's been this year, and and
then of course you've got you know, you got the
burgeoning there. Uh. Javonte is like I want to say,
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he's like two hundred yards and three touchdowns away from
two separate quarter million dollar bonuses that were considered not
likely to be earned.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That'd be so awesome for him.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
He's got a yeah, they did have me. He's gonna
wind up with an extra with an extra million to
two million dollars in incentives this year just because he's
been bawling out. Good for him, Good for Javonte Man.
Good for Javonte to you know. And I always loved
that when guys go to another team and they get
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that get that redemption. R Reco Dowd will go into
the Carolina you know, he's the guy Dallas Jettison. He
goes to Carolina, he's you know, he's carrying them on
his back, Gavante down there in Dallas. You know, like
I said, he's he's probably gonna hit a whole bunch
of incentives in that contract that we're considered not likely
to be earned. And uh, you know, good for him.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
That would have been awesome. I thought it was gonna happen.
I was telling everyone he was set for a big
year last year. But uh, you know, we don't run
the ball too much here in Denverse. Well, we do
nearly lead the league in passing attempts though. That is
the thing that we we nearly lead the league in
very very at the we're in the top five for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
That's that's that's where it is with bo Nix. You
can tell my happy side of my voice here on that.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I hope you guys are going to have a good Thanksgiving.
I really do. Whatever you're doing for Thanksgiving with you
with family, by yourself, whatever that may be. Hope you
guys have a good time out there, and you know,
just keep it safe and and uh, you know, have
fun and get some get some turkey, or if you
don't do turkey, some tofurkey. I guess if you're Ryan Edwards.
But yeah, have yourself a great, great Thanksgiving, yourself a
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great you know, holiday weekend. I hope you guys would
get a couple of days off. We're getting a couple
of days off here of course, you guys know, and
it's been mentioned before, but I'll mention it again from
the Taking It for Granted podcast archives, they take it
for granted podcast will be Eric I believe, starting at
three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Three pm to nine pm tomorrow and then on Friday
nine am to two pm. Maybe it depends on what
the Buffs do in their basketball holiday tournament. So do
you either be nine to eleven thirty am or nine
to two, but definitely three to nine pm tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Okay, hey you know again Rick lewis Ze Origin, Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, it'd be a lot of fun. If you guys
have never listened to those episodes, I highly recommend it grant.
This is really good at getting people to open up
in those kind of formats. And I even made you cry.
I choked up a little bit. I did that did
happen on that episode? But I you know, you're really
good at that. And I say this with no uh,
(06:06):
with no agenda or anything else. I miss new content
from the Taking for Granted podcast.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Well, I appreciate that man putting up putting the episodes
together this week.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Maybe may have a spark.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You might be a Jared Stidham a podcast a minute.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I just needed a spark.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
There you go. So we're gonna have to koa Commas
Spirrel hotline and bring on our guy, Ryan Michael. Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Ryan, How you doing doing well?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Guys?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
How were you well? I needed to do We need
to have you on because you know, we ask you
what the data says, and we need to know what
the data says. As far as what is the best
part food parts of Thanksgiving?
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Oh my goodness, I don't know how you choose just one,
but I'm a sucker for stuffing.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
You're we're on the opposite sides of that. Interesting. I
just that's the one I could do without I don't
want your soggy bread. You know, I'm a I'm a'm
a you know me. I I whether I encourage it
or not, I just tell people give me the birth,
and it generally just happens. Sometimes I don't even have
to ask for it. They just what I'm driving. They
just give it to me.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Anyway, Ryan, we're coming off of bye big win over
Patty Mahomes and the Chiefs, Bodics and Sean Payton has
silentced some of the criticism that was brewing before that
big win.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I believe, I know the numbers are not great in
the passing game, but are you Are you of the
opinion that they've kind of shut everybody up?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Not at all.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I'm happy about the win, not at all.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Listen, I do your reject.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Supremis, Ben.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
It's difficult to complain when you're nine and two. But
I think it's a different question if you're asking me
how I feel about the Broncos collectively of the team,
versus how I feel specifically about the passing game, and
totality for me is always the measure, and it's not
as though BO just came off of some kind of
four hundred yard five touchdown performance. It was certainly a
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good step in the right direction and another clutch win.
But we're talking about a guy right now, Ben who
ranks twenty seventh in the NFL and pass completion percentage
twenty fourth and success percentage twenty sixth, pass rating twenty second,
and adjusted net yards per attempt nineteenth in total QBR
and twenty eighth and adjusted EPA P play. So we're
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talking bottom third of the league by most metrics, both
standard and advanced. And you know, we're two thirds of
the way through the season. So I had a conversation
with Nick Ferguson about two weeks ago about this, and
you know what I told him is with the defense
playing to the level that they've been playing, in my
I'm of the view that the Broncos had the best
defense in the NFL. It is the difference between a
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team being nine and two being five hundred or being
sub five hundred, Right, So if he was paired with
Joe Burrow's defense in Cincinnati, I'm confident that Denver would
be coming close to picking first in the draft next
year based on what we're doing specifically in the passing game.
So it's a collective team effort, and it's always good
to see another win, and we can take note of
a step in the right direction in terms of some
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of the things I'm seeing on tape. But collectively, the
passing game is behind schedule. It's not where anybody wants
for it to be, and the nine to two record
doesn't excuse that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Well, speaking of my Bengals and Joe Burrow, he's back, baby.
You've been pretty bullish on him late lately. He wrote
that great article for the Pro Football Hall of Fame,
a great read for anyone who hasn't read it yet.
But yeah, the success of the Bengals passing game I
saw today you ranked Burrow just below Matt Stafford amongst
the best qbs in the game today. Hard to argue
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with that, with Stafford with like twenty five touchdowns and
zero interceptions over the last eight games.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
But why do you feel that way?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And what do you think we'll see from him on
Thanksgiving tomorrow night against the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
It's a good question, you know. I think that because
Cincinnati hasn't had the team success that they had from
twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two, people have completely
overlooked just how well Burrow's played the quarterback position, and
that's been true back from when sinc he had more
success winning a conference championship twenty twenty one, and then
obviously with the defense bottoming out, you might be surprised
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to know that over the last half decade, amongst quarterbacks
have shown fifteen hundred or more passes. Joe Burrow is
the highest rated passer in the NFL at one of
three point one. Below him, Lamar Jackson number two one
O two point six, Matt Stafford fifth place ninety eight
point two.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Pat Mahomes is.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Eighth ninety seven point one, Josh Allen is tenth ninety
six point zero, And obviously both Lamar Jackson and Josh
Allen do things where they're like the Borough could never
dream of. But if we're talking about the best pure
passer in the NFL, it would be difficult to pick
somebody better than Joe Burrow, with the exception perhaps as
you noted the way that Matt Stafford's been playing. It's
all the context of playing situation. And if you look
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at the totality of tea support, we have Cincinnati as
the worst defense in the NFL. They've been Dad for
the last couple of years. The offensive line's been a
mess since Joe Burrows drafted. According to Pro Football Focus,
they ranked thirtieth his rookie season twentiethenty twenty one, twenty
eighth in twenty twenty two, twenty six in twenty twenty three,
thirtieth last year, and Joe Burrow, in my opinion, should
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have been the league MVP last year. And so when
I look at his playing situation reminds me a little
bit of what Matt Ryan went through during some of
those years in Atlanta, which Breeze went through some of
those years in New Orleans. When you have a team
situation that tells you that you could there for four
hundred yards and three touchdowns, he might still lose. They
might need four hundred and fifty and four touchdowns to
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continue to step up from that and to continue to
execute weekend and week out the way Joe Burrow has
seven and zero over his last seven starts in Cincinnati's
been one to eight without him. Tough to argue that
there's any team in the NFL who's more dependent on
their quarterback for success.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Ryan Michael at d Ryan Michael contributed to Pro Football
Hall of Fame, right, I know Joey Burr would kill
to play behind an offensive line like we have here
in Denver. Rockles course line a lockdown another pillar earlier
this week with Luke Wattenberg four year, forty million dollars extension.
How much of an impact do you think this line
has on and making life for the quarterback and the
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offensive play color easier.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
It's making all the difference in the world. They come
for the last two years in a row. Then we've
had the best offensive line in the NFL, and I
would put our unit up against any of the other
thirty one teams in the NFL. And especially when you
look at Bow's playing style. We're talking about a guy
who locks onto his first read. The eye is checkdown,
and when that blocked up, his instinct is to break
the pocket. His instinct is the role to the right.
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And he's an inaccurate passer and how many passes if
it receivers in the ankle. He's not a good or
proficient deet ball passer at all.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And so I can't.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Help but think to myself, Yes, he is number one
in the NFL in fact percentage this year. It's a
remarkable statistic. It's something that he does well. It's something
he did well in Oregon, and he's the antithesis of
Russell Wilson in that regard. But he's not exactly avoiding
facts the way that Peyton Manning did, the way that
Dan Marino did. It's not so much quick trigger release
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and in situational awareness as much as it is breaking
the pocket running spirit. And he has a very low
completion percentage towards the bond in the league. And so
I can't help but ask myself what would Bonix look
like with an average offensive line? And ask yourself this
what would he look like with Cincinnati's offensive line. They're
down to eight.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Here comes the pressure running away from it as Sanders,
he's looking long, He's got a bad.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
God have the tinyard line bonds.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
He's down of a one yard line.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
That call courtesy of Andrew Siciliano with the Browns Radio Network,
And it leads into my next question, Ryan Shador Sanders
getting his first start and came up big with a
win over the Raiders twenty four to ten. It's been
one of the most polarizing figures in the league.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
For sure. He gets it honest and something.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
We can relate to here in Broncos country going through
t BO Mania. What are your thoughts on his potential
as a pro.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I think it's going to be a tough situation for
Shad or happy to see him get to win last
Sunday for sure. You know he's a polarizing figure. And
we ran data not this past offseason, but back before
the twenty twenty four draft on bust rate, and I
don't have the numbers in front of me, but off
the top of my head, I think it was any
first round quarterback drafted outside of the top ten had
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roughly a seventy percent bust right, So I had a
second round grade on Shador. Obviously, he fell all the
way to one hundred and forty fourth overall, so he
was underdraft that There's no question about it. I think
he's the most talented quarterback on Cleveland's roster. But if
you look at the exceptions to the rule when it
comes to quarterbacks drafted outside of the first round who
have had success even in the past quarter century, in
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virtually every single situation, you're having a quarterback stepping into
elite support, whether it's coaching, offensive line or defense. Think
of Joe Montana paired with Bill Walsh Elite top three
defenses on the regular. Think of Kurt Warner going to
the Greatest Show on turf. Think of Tom Brady top
ten defenses every year, Bill Belichick Division. Think of Tony
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Romo and Dak Prescott going to Dallas as some of
the best skilled position players in the NFL. Russell Wilson,
Legion of Boom, Mark Marshaun Lynch, so on and so forth,
and so obviously we know that's not the situation, unfortunately
for Shador in Cleveland. So I love the bravado, I
love the swagger. My question is going to be how
does he carry himself when he's staring at loss after
loss after loss. Because it's one thing to be a
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bad two in Raiders team, it's another thing to compete
with some of the good teams in the NFL. So
I think he is going to be climbing a tall,
tall mountain rooting for him. The history doesn't vode well
for quarterbacks drapped outside the first round. Go aren't stepping
into great supportive playing situations.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Ryan Michael let d Ryan Michael on Twitter, contributor at
the Pro Football Hall of Fame and Annie. We always
love having you on and hope you have a great
Thanksgiving with you and yours and look forward to talking
to you again here soon.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Thank to you guys, appreciate you having me.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Absolutely take care, Ryan Michael, you're the Pro Football Hall
of Fame and coaching analyst in the European League Football,
amongst other things. Now with the CFL, I believe.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I just love how he's given Joe Burrow his due.
I think he was pandering. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I think he was doing a little pandering.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
He did write a great article on Joe Burrow for
the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but reading it it
was kind of tough as a Bengals fan and Joe
Burrow fan because it was highlighted his injuries quite clear
and reliving all of those that I realized.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You realize like he's.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Missed a ton of times since he's been in the NFL.
So hopefully he can stay healthy the rest of this year.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I mean, we're three and eight.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I wouldn't even play him, I don't think, but I
guess if they win all their games, it can be
nine and eight. And just missed the playoffs again, Well.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
That's because that's the same thing I was saying about
Washington with Jayden Daniels. You know, like Nick was pushing
back on him playing. I'm like, wait, what you went out.
You're nine and eight and you might you might make it,
so you know, it's tough. I get it. But I
like Burrow's attitude. You know, in the interview, he straight
up and came out and said, ahle football, pla, that's
what I do. I play football. Yeah he is. There's
there's a risk of injury in every play that that
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you're out there, So what are we gonna do? Not play?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Because I mean, you know that's not an option. His
dad was a defensive coordinator forever. He has that linebacker mentality.
Both of his brothers played linebacker in college. Like he's
a linebacker playing quarterback, which is something I think that
gets him in trouble from time to time.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
But man, is he a hell of a passer?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah? Yeah, he absolutely is. And that's one of those
things that you know, I see again, the league is
better when he's playing. It's more fun when he's playing.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I'm sure you talked about this, but I haven't had
a chance to talk to you about it. Nick and
I on Monday, when you were on KA Sports talked
about Shador start a ton. What did you see from
him and do you think he has potential to be
a quality pro quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
We'll see. I mean, he's still got to iron out
some things. He's got to quit bailing out the back
of pockets. He kind of he'd Russell Wilson said a
little bit where he'll he'll try to buy time, and
he does it in a way that leads to some
horrifically negative plays that you just can't have. He also
doesn't have the same arm strength or athlaticism that Russ
had in his prime. He might be where Russ is
now in terms of the athleticism, but certainly doesn't have
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the arm strength that Russ has. Russ had the prettiest
deep ball in the league that maybe I've seen everts
I was up there, I'll say that, uh, just the
way he dropped the ball in the bucket should door.
Doesn't have that kind of arm strength, so he trusts
his arm a little more than he should at times,
which is gonna gonna lead to some turnovers. I think
he's absolutely capable of being a starter in the NFL.
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I don't know at what level. You know, probably in
that that that league average to not quite the top
ten kind of tier. I think that's that's probably like
I would put bo Nicks at the high end of
that tier, and I would put sh Door at the
low end of that tier at at Schuldor's best.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Right at the tier with like Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
No, they'd be able. I think the Derek cart you know,
you know what I mean, like that' said, Lawrence has
some better tools, but Lawrence just doesn't see it sometimes.
You know, Lawrence has got a stronger arm and more
athleticism than shoud do. He just he just does not
see it sometimes. And he you know, Shdor whatever else
you want to say about him. I mean, kid's kind
of a winner, you know, whatever else you want to
say about it. She's kind of got that that winter,
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Jean and Trevor's just not not really shown that in
the league. We'll see and it'll be fun to watch.
We had a break, We come back. Paul Charchi and
Stoking Fantasy Football next on Broncos Country tonight after Kait
comes for the hotline though, and bring on our guy,
Paul Charchi and Paul, how you doing this evening?
Speaker 7 (19:18):
What do you mean though, I mean, I get that's
what kind of transition is that. I mean, granted it's
hard to follow queen.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
But you know though, well that's I mean, look, I
was trying to lower the bar so that you could
clear it after, you know, I mean, Queen is the
warm up back there. That's you know, it's just like
the time I had to go out and uh and
go on you know after Sam Moral. That wasn't that
wasn't it wasn't good for any buddy. No, you know,
it was so funny. I delivered a yulog. I was
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just I was like, all right, well it's just you know,
oh my goodness, Paul, you sent me an email earlier
and I'm like absolutely looking for that. I cannot find it.
I I've lost your email. Brother.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It's uh.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I meant to pull that, but.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
I would no, but I wish she would email me
more often, you know, just check in see how I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
That's what I'm saying. Turkey at the recipes. Can we
not We're not We're not on that level. We're not
swapping Christmas cards.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
I I don't think we need I would I would
like to think that you'd write me a letter, even
if you weren't in jail, that you would that you'd
write to me.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
I think that would be that'd be sweet. I know
Nick would look and I.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Think that'd be really nice.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Take our relationship to the next level as pen pals.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I think personally, I think it's presumptive that you think
I wouldn't be in solitary if I was in prison.
That's a good point.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
I think you'd make some enemies almost certainly.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Oh my god, it would be horrible. I think we
always see my Twitter. We all know we know what
that is. I find he did fond your email. By
the way, Uh, let's let's start off with Justin Jefferson,
because you sent me this and I I had to
read it twice and then I had to double check
and look away from the phone and look back at
the phone, like, am I reading this? Is Justin Jefferson? Benchable?
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Here we are? Ben, Yes, yes, it's the short answer.
But let's talk it through right now. JJ McCarthy's just bad.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
It's and I'm I'm a lifelong Vikings fan. Let me
let me tell you what we've seen in six games.
He's not improving game to game. Remember week one, he
was the offensive player of the Week in Week one,
and he has regressed on a weekly basis the biggest problem.
And there are other quarterbacks that have been bad through
six games but have turned it around.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
But like Josh Allen, but.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
There were things in Josh Allen's game you could point
out through six games ago. Man, there's there, there's some
moments of greatness. And if we can expand on these
things that Josh is doing really well, he's gonna be great.
There's none of those NFL trades showing right now in
JJ McCarthy. And this despite the fact that he's surrounded
by Jordan Addison, TJ. Hopkinson, Justin Jefferson, and a coaching
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staff that is the rating coach coach of the year
and they've.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Turned around Sam Darnold's career last year.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
And at this point through six games, JJ mccarthyistically is
worse than JaMarcus Russell.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Oh my god, tell me that's not really? Is that really?
Is that an accurate thing? It is?
Speaker 7 (22:08):
Russell through six games, had more yards, he had a
better passer rating, he had thrown fewer interceptions and absorbed
fewer sacks.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Wow, that's I know, that's that is.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That is that fascinating stuff. And it's funny because you know,
JJ give himself a nick which you never trust the guy
who gives himself a nickname. But he give himself the
nickname of nine. But we're being told four and a
half is what the locker room was calling him. So
we'll have to uh, we'll have to we'll have to
fill out to sort that out.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
So for Justin Jefferson to answer you. And by the way,
you're absolutely you can't give yourself a nickname. It has
to be a bestowed upon you because you don't get
to just pick your own nickname.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
That's not that's not how life works.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Max Brosmert is your new starter for the Vikings for
this game against Seattle. Now this think about the Justin
Jefferson angle is the important part here. Seattle's allowing the
fewest Fantasy points to wide receivers over the last five games,
and over those five that five game stretch, one receiver
has topped forty four yards.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
It was pookin a cool and he only got seventy
five scoreless yards. Davante Adams one catch, Marvin Harrison three catches.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
This is a brutal spot.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
And Justin Jefferson is my wide receiver thirty five, So
you've probably got better receivers to use this week.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, I think any wide receivers going up against Michael
McDonald and hoping for sweet freedom. So we'll have to
have to see how that goes.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Ah, well, dust Man, that was really good.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Every once in a while I can get a represent here, somebody,
somebody will get Yeah, but Max Bros Real quick with
the Max Brosemer thing, my good refasan up there and
you know in Minnesota, Yeah, I know him. Well, yeah,
I have not a reef for years, and he had
he already had to deal with Carson Wentz this year,
and if you know a reef's history, it is his pure,
unvital hatred of Carson Wentz.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
The Broseman.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Isn't going to be funnier if Broseber's comically bad, or
is it going to be funnier if he's like somehow
really good.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
We've already seen comic bad this year.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
I might, you know, as a Viking fan, please make
Max Bros mure Okay yet for people that don't know
he he and this is I know what is getting
super boring. I'm gonna Minnesota right a dach that you
guys love the breakdown Minnesota Golden Gopher football. He was
the Gopher quarterback for his final senior year of college.
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Last year, undrafted, the Vikings just brought him in for
a tryout. He looked good, they kept him on the roster,
and ultimately he was he was. He actually outperformed JJ
McCarthy in the preseason, so they kept him unexpectedly. But
he'll be making his first NFL start as an undrafted
free agent.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Maybe it's Brock party two point o. Who knows, you
know somebody else who's got a little bit of regrets
going on. Maybe is one receivers out playing the other
downer in Arizona's Michael Wilson better than Marvin Harrison junior.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
He might be.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
I mean, what what's happened to the last two games
with Michael Wilson is staggering. Then I'm gonna give you
two game totals for Michael Wilson with the two games
that Mark Harrison has missed with his appendicitis attack. Thirty
three targets, twenty five catches, three hundred three yards, I
mean needless to say, this blows away anything Michael Wilson
(25:13):
had ever done in the past, but it also blows
away anything Marvin Harrison had done. Not only had Marvin
Harrison never posted back to back one hundred yard games
like Michael Wilson just did. Marvin Harrison only has two
one hundred yard games in his NFL career, you know,
Wilson just you know, the two one hour games in
the last week. So Drew Patson, the offensive coordinator, came
(25:35):
out yesterday and he said, We're gonna have to change
our progressions. We're gonna have to change the reeds that
we're asking Jacoby Brissett to do because we need to
start prioritizing Michael Wilson. I think Wilson has looked great.
I don't think this is just like all volume in
all fluke. I think he's looked I think he's looked
tremendously good. And even with Harrison expected back this week,
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we're still starting Michael Wilson out there.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Well, I just check to see if Michael Wilson was
still available in my fantasy league, but he is not.
That's probably why I'm four and eight on the year.
But I did get my quarterback back, Joe Burrow coming
back against the Ravens tomorrow night. Should I start him
in his first game back coming off that injury?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Hi? Nick?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
It is?
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Is it go this way in every every segment where
Ben talks for like ninety percent of the time, and
then you just get to like cut in with a
word here and there.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
No, that's that's actually Grant Nicks off tonight.
Speaker 8 (26:27):
But uh yeah, that's Grant. Oh okay, all right, Okay,
it's hard to tell. They sounds so much like I.
I look, I do for me, I do. I do
tend to ramble sometimes to dominate the conversation, but tonight
it's me mostly because it's just me. Otherwise we could
just okay, all right, silence.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
Well great, you could warn me so I don't make
a complete ass out of myself.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Well, I think I'm honored to think you sound You
think I.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Sound like Nick?
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Well, Nick's got good pipes. I don't you know that's
a feeling anything.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
So I hear Joe Burrow making his first start since
Week one in that Week one game, and granted it
turned out he ended up getting nicked out. If it
was a late week one, early week two, but either way,
no touchdowns in that game. Burrow going up against the
raven secondary. Now, if you make the mistake of looking
at the Ravens like defensive statistics for the year, you
(27:18):
can get a very skewed understanding of the Ravens secondary,
because for the first five weeks, their whole secondary was
hurt and they were just getting killed. Since Week six,
the Ravens have arguably the second best pass defense in
the league, second only to your own in Denver.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Ravens had given.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Up three passing touchdowns since Week five and just two
hundred and eighteen yards per game. So this is a
really good defense. Joe Burrow is not gonna have to
Higgins in this game. He's gonna have eleven games of
rust that he needs to knock off. So I don't
love the way this is shaping up. Cincinnati. Baltimore probably
(27:55):
gets ahead, maybe just the sheer volume. Joe Burrow's gonna
be okay here. But if you've got another good option,
I might wait a week and let's just let let's
just let Joe Burrow get through this.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Game with an easier matchup next week.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Paul, And it always.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Goes too fast, probably because I am on a on
a monologue slash the liiloquy. But I'll try to keep
my question shorter for you. Next time you're you're you're
back on.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
Yeah, now that's okay, Hey, don't eat the yams. Let's
let's just make a statement that Aams are not cool
and we don't eat him three hundred and sixty four
days a year.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
You don't need to eat him tomorrow either.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I'm with you on that one, and we'll start the
campaign don't eat the Yams. We're gonna make. This is
gonna be a nation one. We're gonna do this, and
I hey, I appreciate your time. I appreciate your pity.
Laugh on my Michael McDonald joke, and uh, let's get
back to it.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Brother, Well we'll talk next week.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
All right. Sounds good, Paul charging I always love talking
to it. He gets our brand in terms of the humor.
Five six six zeros. The text line, guys, lots of
lots of stuff coming here. Brian asking how she door
is a winner if you would ten and twelve against
Power four opponents, Well, I mean a lot of that
was the defense. I think somebody said, he guesses Bnix
(29:03):
leads the league in intentional grounding. I don't know. I
have to look that up.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I would one hundred percent believe it, because I've been
complaining about that all year long. Just throw it a
little bit closer to the receiver. You don't have to
make a look so obvious where you're just chucking it
into the dirt.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, I don't know. I'll have to go back and check.
I'm genuinely curious on that. Turkey sandwich is a potato salad.
The day after is always my favorite part of Christmas.
That sounds horrible like leftovers. That's your favorite part of Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I love the leftover. Really, we had friends Giving last weekend.
I've been eating leftovers all week long. I don't eat
leftover like I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I don't. I genuinely do not e left over.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Neither does my wife and I think you're both weird.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Well that's fine, we'll be weird together.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Oh please don't.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Oh five six sixty nine zero, let's see your eight
one sixth fan of the Wattenberg signing. We're gonna have
to get younger, cheaper at left guard, left tackle, and
probably right tackle. Let's not add center to the needs. Yeah,
I Broncos hit with the highest paid offensive lines out there,
the highest paid offensive line by far out there in
the NFL. Everybody on that line, nobody's on a rookie deal.
(30:10):
Of the starters. Now, I don't with the Ben Powers thing,
he's probably gone. You probably got one more year of
McGlinchey and then he's gone. You know, Bowles was gett
a little long in the tooth at this point. You
got to think he's here for the next three years. Yeah,
probably two three years long as he continues to hold
up and you know, the body holds up and all that.
But you know, I mean as far as the rest
of that goes, yeah, I would suggest that powers of
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McGlinchey are probably, you know, this offseason and next offseason gone.
You probably replaced them with draft picks and go from there.
I don't know that I would have done the Wattenbird thing,
but hey, I you know, they see something, they're going
with it. That's that's what they do, you know, is
what it is. I'm not complaining.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
That's what I wanted to ask you about because everything
I heard in the off season like he was a
huge question mark, didn't look great during training camp, first
couple of weeks of the year, everyone was rushing us
right up the middle. And now he's getting twelve million
a year. I mean what that's like, top five six
in the league.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Top five money. Yeah, because he's getting the same he's
basically got the Lloyd Cushingbury deal, you know, and I
mean the different The highest paid center of the league
is Creed Humphrey, which you know, as it should be,
I get it. But yeah, that's that's that that's good
money for a center position. But that's the way Sean
Payton constructs a roster too. Sean pays one wide receiver,
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he pays across the offensive line, he may pay a
tight end, and he pays a quarterback and that that's
that's about it. And then he tries to sprinkle the
rest of money that's left over there on the defensive side,
and you know, does everything else with low cost veteran
minimums or rookie deal guys. And that's that's just I mean,
we've got plenty of evidence looking back to New Orleans
if that's how he constructs a roster. So you know,
(31:44):
I mean, as far as that kind of stuff goes,
that's where all the savings will come in when you know,
because and that's part of the reason you've only got
one wide receiver and all these receiver rumors that keep
coming out about the Broncos and this, that and the other.
I'm like, guys, they're not paying another resistious not what
he does. It's just not And that wasn't the reason
I said Brandan Cooks wasn't coming here. They don't have
(32:04):
that kind of relationship just because you know, I mean,
you think everybody that ever played for him, you know
that kind of stuff. But Brandy Cooks and Chomping don't
really have a great relationship. I knew that wouldn't wun't happening. Uh,
I guess see real quick before we got Nick Javala
coming up next segment. Stranger Things Volume five drop today.
I had a chance to watch it yet, but it's
(32:25):
out there on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That three or four years after the last season.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Something like they've spent a long time. All those kids
are like twenty years old now, so to say, like,
isn't Billie Bobby Brown and she's like twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Older with a kid?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, I mean, I'm dead seriously, I will say, I'm
still excited to watch it.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Oh yeah, yeah that sup was gonna ask you, are
you one of those people that because it seems like
it's a it's a pretty divided camp. Like there's some
people that like, I love that show, but there are
people that don't. There are people that really like, I'm
not watching that. I think those are just haters of
good television. Where are they watching reality TV?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Instead?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
This is quality programming And like each episode is a
movie basically, I.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Mean Kanda, Yeah, And it's all like the whole eighties
you know thing, which I mean, if you know me
at all, you know you love that love and the
Dungeons Dragons thing, which if you know me at all,
you know I love that. So that's that's what I
don't really talk about in the air, do I. I
really haven't.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
No, But I'm glad you just outed yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
That's fine. Everybody knows I'm a nerd, so a big deal. Yeah.
Nelli Biby Brown by the way, she married Jon bon
Jovi's kid. Yep, it's funny. Yeah, And and like it's
it's funny to me because people like, yeah, she's uh uh,
she's British or whatever. Actually she's Spanish. She was born
in Spain, Marbella, Spain. She was born in Marbello, Spain.
(33:42):
I think she I think they moved to her parents
were British and living in Spain, I think, and that's
where the uh the accent comes from. But she lived
in Spain for the first I don't remember four or
five years of her life before they moved to him.
They and then they moved to back to Britain for
a minute, and then to America where they lived in Orlando. Yeah,
well I used to there's an overlap. I lived to
(34:04):
Tampa and you know, forty minutes away back when she
was growing up and a kid and all that kind
of stuff. So it's weird stuff I was. It's weird
that I keep tracking people that come out of that area,
Like in areas where I lived at a certain part time,
I always keep tracking people that come out of that
area and go on to things.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Who's the pride of where you grew up in Arkansas?
Speaker 7 (34:21):
Me?
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Which is a sad, sad, sad state of affairs, like
on the on the on the school's Wikipedia page, I
am the celebrity that you know, the notable people. It's
me And again a nineteen thirties. Gut that I'm related
to a nineteen thirties track and field athlete named Footsie Britt.
I feel bad for that town. I feel worse. You
have no idea. Rockos Country died back here for this
Us Brime time coming up here in just a little bit.
That's right, I said, Brian time because it's Thanksgiving. I'm
not sure if you did it on purpose. I do not,
but I tried to stumble back over it. And thanks
for selling me out there, Grant. This is gonna be
that kind of show. We got a ton of a
ton of guests today. Everybody wanted to get in on
the Thanksgiving show. Ryan Michael's going to join us here
(00:20):
in about ten minutes. Paul Charchion, since he's not gonna
do his usual Thursday hit, we'll be here for a
Wednesday hit. Bottom of the hour. We got Nikki Javala,
who used to work the Broncos beat here, our good
friend and shorts the Commanders beat now and obviously the
Commanders are upon it. On Sunday Night Football, we have
her on at top of the seven o'clock hour, and
(00:40):
then of course in the NFL pick them coming up
at seven thirty. Always a fun time.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Look forward to seeing what great great matchups this week.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, there are there's some. There's some fubble that last
week hit some duds. That's some real duds. But this
week appears to or seems to have some some more
intriguing matchups.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, I guess we'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Because I thought the Rams Bucks game was going to
be a great game on Sunday Night last week, and uh,
that was ugly.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, Teddy Bridgewater got in that game.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Teddy two gloves.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I was like, wow, he's still around and speaking to
people that are still around, Nick Venette is still around.
The Seattle Seahawks put him on the active roster today.
Nick Venette is still around. How's that even possible? You know?
Beats mean good for him? Yeah, you know, I'm always uh,
I'm always here for for for anybody secured in the bag.
So a lot of fun with that. Yeah, bust prime
(01:29):
time eight o'clock guys. We always love doing that for uh,
for you guys, five six six nine zeros. The text line,
the text line is, uh, it's popping, it's working. It
looks like we've remedied everything.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
So good good for uh for all that he's got
to get that two factor authentication and yeah that's I'm
still you know, I don't know you guys too, So
well you're a hacker. I'm a slacker, but you you
stumbled over that. I saw you correct yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
There. See what we got here?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Ben?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Can you say we coming on the air tonight and
blame me? Okay, Brian, I will blame you.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh, I said.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It all happy Thanksgiving? You jive turkeys? Yeah, anytime you
get a jive turkey reference, your comment's gonna make it. Yeah,
your comet's gonna make it on the air anytime you
get one of those references. In So, I definitely definitely appreciate, uh,
appreciate that we got Commanders and excuse me, Chiefs and
Cowboys tomorrow. And I think Dallas gonna take Kansas City. Man.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I hope you're right, but I don't think you are.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
They're a better football team than they were we played them.
They got they got a couple of new bodies on
defense from trades, they got, they got a couple of
bodies back from from injury. Like their defense is actually
I'm not gonna call it good, but it's serviceable now
whereas it was non existent when we played them.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, and the offense is still rolling and coming off
that high of the comeback from twenty one down against
the Eagles. I see how it's gonna play. It could
play out that way. But I'm just I still think
the Chiefs are going to win this game. I think
it's gonna be close. I think it's gonna come down
to the wire, but not Chi Saint Dead yet.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I got a sneaking suspicion we'll see.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I hope you're right.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Brian Schottenheimer and Clayton Adams, who's the OC there was
the had previously been with the Arizona Cardinals and he
is widely credited for the sudden resurgence in the career
of Javonte Williams and the run game. You look what
he did for the run game in Arizona last year,
and how how Nason did's been this year, and and
then of course you've got you know, you got the
burgeoning there. Uh. Javonte is like I want to say,
(03:35):
he's like two hundred yards and three touchdowns away from
two separate quarter million dollar bonuses that were considered not
likely to be earned.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That'd be so awesome for him.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
He's got a yeah, they did have me. He's gonna
wind up with an extra with an extra million to
two million dollars in incentives this year just because he's
been bawling out. Good for him, Good for Javonte Man.
Good for Javonte to you know. And I always loved
that when guys go to another team and they get
(04:04):
that get that redemption. R Reco Dowd will go into
the Carolina you know, he's the guy Dallas Jettison. He
goes to Carolina, he's you know, he's carrying them on
his back, Gavante down there in Dallas. You know, like
I said, he's he's probably gonna hit a whole bunch
of incentives in that contract that we're considered not likely
to be earned. And uh, you know, good for him.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
That would have been awesome. I thought it was gonna happen.
I was telling everyone he was set for a big
year last year. But uh, you know, we don't run
the ball too much here in Denverse. Well, we do
nearly lead the league in passing attempts though. That is
the thing that we we nearly lead the league in
very very at the we're in the top five for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
That's that's that's where it is with bo Nix. You
can tell my happy side of my voice here on that.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I hope you guys are going to have a good Thanksgiving.
I really do. Whatever you're doing for Thanksgiving with you
with family, by yourself, whatever that may be. Hope you
guys have a good time out there, and you know,
just keep it safe and and uh, you know, have
fun and get some get some turkey, or if you
don't do turkey, some tofurkey. I guess if you're Ryan Edwards.
But yeah, have yourself a great, great Thanksgiving, yourself a
(05:10):
great you know, holiday weekend. I hope you guys would
get a couple of days off. We're getting a couple
of days off here of course, you guys know, and
it's been mentioned before, but I'll mention it again from
the Taking It for Granted podcast archives, they take it
for granted podcast will be Eric I believe, starting at
three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Three pm to nine pm tomorrow and then on Friday
nine am to two pm. Maybe it depends on what
the Buffs do in their basketball holiday tournament. So do
you either be nine to eleven thirty am or nine
to two, but definitely three to nine pm tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Okay, hey you know again Rick lewis Ze Origin, Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, it'd be a lot of fun. If you guys
have never listened to those episodes, I highly recommend it grant.
This is really good at getting people to open up
in those kind of formats. And I even made you cry.
I choked up a little bit. I did that did
happen on that episode? But I you know, you're really
good at that. And I say this with no uh,
(06:06):
with no agenda or anything else. I miss new content
from the Taking for Granted podcast.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Well, I appreciate that man putting up putting the episodes
together this week.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Maybe may have a spark.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You might be a Jared Stidham a podcast a minute.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I just needed a spark.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
There you go. So we're gonna have to koa Commas
Spirrel hotline and bring on our guy, Ryan Michael. Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Ryan, How you doing doing well?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Guys?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
How were you well? I needed to do We need
to have you on because you know, we ask you
what the data says, and we need to know what
the data says. As far as what is the best
part food parts of Thanksgiving?
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Oh my goodness, I don't know how you choose just one,
but I'm a sucker for stuffing.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
You're we're on the opposite sides of that. Interesting. I
just that's the one I could do without I don't
want your soggy bread. You know, I'm a I'm a'm
a you know me. I I whether I encourage it
or not, I just tell people give me the birth,
and it generally just happens. Sometimes I don't even have
to ask for it. They just what I'm driving. They
just give it to me.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Anyway, Ryan, we're coming off of bye big win over
Patty Mahomes and the Chiefs, Bodics and Sean Payton has
silentced some of the criticism that was brewing before that
big win.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I believe, I know the numbers are not great in
the passing game, but are you Are you of the
opinion that they've kind of shut everybody up?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Not at all.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I'm happy about the win, not at all.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Listen, I do your reject.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Supremis, Ben.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
It's difficult to complain when you're nine and two. But
I think it's a different question if you're asking me
how I feel about the Broncos collectively of the team,
versus how I feel specifically about the passing game, and
totality for me is always the measure, and it's not
as though BO just came off of some kind of
four hundred yard five touchdown performance. It was certainly a
(07:58):
good step in the right direction and another clutch win.
But we're talking about a guy right now, Ben who
ranks twenty seventh in the NFL and pass completion percentage
twenty fourth and success percentage twenty sixth, pass rating twenty second,
and adjusted net yards per attempt nineteenth in total QBR
and twenty eighth and adjusted EPA P play. So we're
(08:19):
talking bottom third of the league by most metrics, both
standard and advanced. And you know, we're two thirds of
the way through the season. So I had a conversation
with Nick Ferguson about two weeks ago about this, and
you know what I told him is with the defense
playing to the level that they've been playing, in my
I'm of the view that the Broncos had the best
defense in the NFL. It is the difference between a
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team being nine and two being five hundred or being
sub five hundred, Right, So if he was paired with
Joe Burrow's defense in Cincinnati, I'm confident that Denver would
be coming close to picking first in the draft next
year based on what we're doing specifically in the passing game.
So it's a collective team effort, and it's always good
to see another win, and we can take note of
a step in the right direction in terms of some
(09:03):
of the things I'm seeing on tape. But collectively, the
passing game is behind schedule. It's not where anybody wants
for it to be, and the nine to two record
doesn't excuse that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Well, speaking of my Bengals and Joe Burrow, he's back, baby.
You've been pretty bullish on him late lately. He wrote
that great article for the Pro Football Hall of Fame,
a great read for anyone who hasn't read it yet.
But yeah, the success of the Bengals passing game I
saw today you ranked Burrow just below Matt Stafford amongst
the best qbs in the game today. Hard to argue
(09:33):
with that, with Stafford with like twenty five touchdowns and
zero interceptions over the last eight games.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
But why do you feel that way?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And what do you think we'll see from him on
Thanksgiving tomorrow night against the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
It's a good question, you know. I think that because
Cincinnati hasn't had the team success that they had from
twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two, people have completely
overlooked just how well Burrow's played the quarterback position, and
that's been true back from when sinc he had more
success winning a conference championship twenty twenty one, and then
obviously with the defense bottoming out, you might be surprised
(10:07):
to know that over the last half decade, amongst quarterbacks
have shown fifteen hundred or more passes. Joe Burrow is
the highest rated passer in the NFL at one of
three point one. Below him, Lamar Jackson number two one
O two point six, Matt Stafford fifth place ninety eight
point two.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Pat Mahomes is.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Eighth ninety seven point one, Josh Allen is tenth ninety
six point zero, And obviously both Lamar Jackson and Josh
Allen do things where they're like the Borough could never
dream of. But if we're talking about the best pure
passer in the NFL, it would be difficult to pick
somebody better than Joe Burrow, with the exception perhaps as
you noted the way that Matt Stafford's been playing. It's
all the context of playing situation. And if you look
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at the totality of tea support, we have Cincinnati as
the worst defense in the NFL. They've been Dad for
the last couple of years. The offensive line's been a
mess since Joe Burrows drafted. According to Pro Football Focus,
they ranked thirtieth his rookie season twentiethenty twenty one, twenty
eighth in twenty twenty two, twenty six in twenty twenty three,
thirtieth last year, and Joe Burrow, in my opinion, should
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have been the league MVP last year. And so when
I look at his playing situation reminds me a little
bit of what Matt Ryan went through during some of
those years in Atlanta, which Breeze went through some of
those years in New Orleans. When you have a team
situation that tells you that you could there for four
hundred yards and three touchdowns, he might still lose. They
might need four hundred and fifty and four touchdowns to
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continue to step up from that and to continue to
execute weekend and week out the way Joe Burrow has
seven and zero over his last seven starts in Cincinnati's
been one to eight without him. Tough to argue that
there's any team in the NFL who's more dependent on
their quarterback for success.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Ryan Michael at d Ryan Michael contributed to Pro Football
Hall of Fame, right, I know Joey Burr would kill
to play behind an offensive line like we have here
in Denver. Rockles course line a lockdown another pillar earlier
this week with Luke Wattenberg four year, forty million dollars extension.
How much of an impact do you think this line
has on and making life for the quarterback and the
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offensive play color easier.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
It's making all the difference in the world. They come
for the last two years in a row. Then we've
had the best offensive line in the NFL, and I
would put our unit up against any of the other
thirty one teams in the NFL. And especially when you
look at Bow's playing style. We're talking about a guy
who locks onto his first read. The eye is checkdown,
and when that blocked up, his instinct is to break
the pocket. His instinct is the role to the right.
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And he's an inaccurate passer and how many passes if
it receivers in the ankle. He's not a good or
proficient deet ball passer at all.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And so I can't.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Help but think to myself, Yes, he is number one
in the NFL in fact percentage this year. It's a
remarkable statistic. It's something that he does well. It's something
he did well in Oregon, and he's the antithesis of
Russell Wilson in that regard. But he's not exactly avoiding
facts the way that Peyton Manning did, the way that
Dan Marino did. It's not so much quick trigger release
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and in situational awareness as much as it is breaking
the pocket running spirit. And he has a very low
completion percentage towards the bond in the league. And so
I can't help but ask myself what would Bonix look
like with an average offensive line? And ask yourself this
what would he look like with Cincinnati's offensive line. They're
down to eight.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Here comes the pressure running away from it as Sanders,
he's looking long, He's got a bad.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
God have the tinyard line bonds.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
He's down of a one yard line.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
That call courtesy of Andrew Siciliano with the Browns Radio Network,
And it leads into my next question, Ryan Shador Sanders
getting his first start and came up big with a
win over the Raiders twenty four to ten. It's been
one of the most polarizing figures in the league.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
For sure. He gets it honest and something.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
We can relate to here in Broncos country going through
t BO Mania. What are your thoughts on his potential
as a pro.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I think it's going to be a tough situation for
Shad or happy to see him get to win last
Sunday for sure. You know he's a polarizing figure. And
we ran data not this past offseason, but back before
the twenty twenty four draft on bust rate, and I
don't have the numbers in front of me, but off
the top of my head, I think it was any
first round quarterback drafted outside of the top ten had
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roughly a seventy percent bust right, So I had a
second round grade on Shador. Obviously, he fell all the
way to one hundred and forty fourth overall, so he
was underdraft that There's no question about it. I think
he's the most talented quarterback on Cleveland's roster. But if
you look at the exceptions to the rule when it
comes to quarterbacks drafted outside of the first round who
have had success even in the past quarter century, in
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virtually every single situation, you're having a quarterback stepping into
elite support, whether it's coaching, offensive line or defense. Think
of Joe Montana paired with Bill Walsh Elite top three
defenses on the regular. Think of Kurt Warner going to
the Greatest Show on turf. Think of Tom Brady top
ten defenses every year, Bill Belichick Division. Think of Tony
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Romo and Dak Prescott going to Dallas as some of
the best skilled position players in the NFL. Russell Wilson,
Legion of Boom, Mark Marshaun Lynch, so on and so forth,
and so obviously we know that's not the situation, unfortunately
for Shador in Cleveland. So I love the bravado, I
love the swagger. My question is going to be how
does he carry himself when he's staring at loss after
loss after loss. Because it's one thing to be a
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bad two in Raiders team, it's another thing to compete
with some of the good teams in the NFL. So
I think he is going to be climbing a tall,
tall mountain rooting for him. The history doesn't vode well
for quarterbacks drapped outside the first round. Go aren't stepping
into great supportive playing situations.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Ryan Michael let d Ryan Michael on Twitter, contributor at
the Pro Football Hall of Fame and Annie. We always
love having you on and hope you have a great
Thanksgiving with you and yours and look forward to talking
to you again here soon.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Thank to you guys, appreciate you having me.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Absolutely take care, Ryan Michael, you're the Pro Football Hall
of Fame and coaching analyst in the European League Football,
amongst other things. Now with the CFL, I believe.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I just love how he's given Joe Burrow his due.
I think he was pandering. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I think he was doing a little pandering.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
He did write a great article on Joe Burrow for
the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but reading it it
was kind of tough as a Bengals fan and Joe
Burrow fan because it was highlighted his injuries quite clear
and reliving all of those that I realized.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You realize like he's.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Missed a ton of times since he's been in the NFL.
So hopefully he can stay healthy the rest of this year.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I mean, we're three and eight.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I wouldn't even play him, I don't think, but I
guess if they win all their games, it can be
nine and eight. And just missed the playoffs again, Well.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
That's because that's the same thing I was saying about
Washington with Jayden Daniels. You know, like Nick was pushing
back on him playing. I'm like, wait, what you went out.
You're nine and eight and you might you might make it,
so you know, it's tough. I get it. But I
like Burrow's attitude. You know, in the interview, he straight
up and came out and said, ahle football, pla, that's
what I do. I play football. Yeah he is. There's
there's a risk of injury in every play that that
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you're out there, So what are we gonna do? Not play?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Because I mean, you know that's not an option. His
dad was a defensive coordinator forever. He has that linebacker mentality.
Both of his brothers played linebacker in college. Like he's
a linebacker playing quarterback, which is something I think that
gets him in trouble from time to time.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
But man, is he a hell of a passer?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah? Yeah, he absolutely is. And that's one of those
things that you know, I see again, the league is
better when he's playing. It's more fun when he's playing.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I'm sure you talked about this, but I haven't had
a chance to talk to you about it. Nick and
I on Monday, when you were on KA Sports talked
about Shador start a ton. What did you see from
him and do you think he has potential to be
a quality pro quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
We'll see. I mean, he's still got to iron out
some things. He's got to quit bailing out the back
of pockets. He kind of he'd Russell Wilson said a
little bit where he'll he'll try to buy time, and
he does it in a way that leads to some
horrifically negative plays that you just can't have. He also
doesn't have the same arm strength or athlaticism that Russ
had in his prime. He might be where Russ is
now in terms of the athleticism, but certainly doesn't have
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the arm strength that Russ has. Russ had the prettiest
deep ball in the league that maybe I've seen everts
I was up there, I'll say that, uh, just the
way he dropped the ball in the bucket should door.
Doesn't have that kind of arm strength, so he trusts
his arm a little more than he should at times,
which is gonna gonna lead to some turnovers. I think
he's absolutely capable of being a starter in the NFL.
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I don't know at what level. You know, probably in
that that that league average to not quite the top
ten kind of tier. I think that's that's probably like
I would put bo Nicks at the high end of
that tier, and I would put sh Door at the
low end of that tier at at Schuldor's best.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Right at the tier with like Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
No, they'd be able. I think the Derek cart you know,
you know what I mean, like that' said, Lawrence has
some better tools, but Lawrence just doesn't see it sometimes.
You know, Lawrence has got a stronger arm and more
athleticism than shoud do. He just he just does not
see it sometimes. And he you know, Shdor whatever else
you want to say about him. I mean, kid's kind
of a winner, you know, whatever else you want to
say about it. She's kind of got that that winter,
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Jean and Trevor's just not not really shown that in
the league. We'll see and it'll be fun to watch.
We had a break, We come back. Paul Charchi and
Stoking Fantasy Football next on Broncos Country tonight after Kait
comes for the hotline though, and bring on our guy,
Paul Charchi and Paul, how you doing this evening?
Speaker 7 (19:18):
What do you mean though, I mean, I get that's
what kind of transition is that. I mean, granted it's
hard to follow queen.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
But you know though, well that's I mean, look, I
was trying to lower the bar so that you could
clear it after, you know, I mean, Queen is the
warm up back there. That's you know, it's just like
the time I had to go out and uh and
go on you know after Sam Moral. That wasn't that
wasn't it wasn't good for any buddy. No, you know,
it was so funny. I delivered a yulog. I was
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just I was like, all right, well it's just you know,
oh my goodness, Paul, you sent me an email earlier
and I'm like absolutely looking for that. I cannot find it.
I I've lost your email. Brother.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It's uh.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I meant to pull that, but.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
I would no, but I wish she would email me
more often, you know, just check in see how I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
That's what I'm saying. Turkey at the recipes. Can we
not We're not We're not on that level. We're not
swapping Christmas cards.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
I I don't think we need I would I would
like to think that you'd write me a letter, even
if you weren't in jail, that you would that you'd
write to me.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
I think that would be that'd be sweet. I know
Nick would look and I.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Think that'd be really nice.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Take our relationship to the next level as pen pals.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I think personally, I think it's presumptive that you think
I wouldn't be in solitary if I was in prison.
That's a good point.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
I think you'd make some enemies almost certainly.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Oh my god, it would be horrible. I think we
always see my Twitter. We all know we know what
that is. I find he did fond your email. By
the way, Uh, let's let's start off with Justin Jefferson,
because you sent me this and I I had to
read it twice and then I had to double check
and look away from the phone and look back at
the phone, like, am I reading this? Is Justin Jefferson? Benchable?
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Here we are? Ben, Yes, yes, it's the short answer.
But let's talk it through right now. JJ McCarthy's just bad.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
It's and I'm I'm a lifelong Vikings fan. Let me
let me tell you what we've seen in six games.
He's not improving game to game. Remember week one, he
was the offensive player of the Week in Week one,
and he has regressed on a weekly basis the biggest problem.
And there are other quarterbacks that have been bad through
six games but have turned it around.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
But like Josh Allen, but.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
There were things in Josh Allen's game you could point
out through six games ago. Man, there's there, there's some
moments of greatness. And if we can expand on these
things that Josh is doing really well, he's gonna be great.
There's none of those NFL trades showing right now in
JJ McCarthy. And this despite the fact that he's surrounded
by Jordan Addison, TJ. Hopkinson, Justin Jefferson, and a coaching
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staff that is the rating coach coach of the year
and they've.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Turned around Sam Darnold's career last year.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
And at this point through six games, JJ mccarthyistically is
worse than JaMarcus Russell.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Oh my god, tell me that's not really? Is that really?
Is that an accurate thing? It is?
Speaker 7 (22:08):
Russell through six games, had more yards, he had a
better passer rating, he had thrown fewer interceptions and absorbed
fewer sacks.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Wow, that's I know, that's that is.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That is that fascinating stuff. And it's funny because you know,
JJ give himself a nick which you never trust the guy
who gives himself a nickname. But he give himself the
nickname of nine. But we're being told four and a
half is what the locker room was calling him. So
we'll have to uh, we'll have to we'll have to
fill out to sort that out.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
So for Justin Jefferson to answer you. And by the way,
you're absolutely you can't give yourself a nickname. It has
to be a bestowed upon you because you don't get
to just pick your own nickname.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
That's not that's not how life works.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Max Brosmert is your new starter for the Vikings for
this game against Seattle. Now this think about the Justin
Jefferson angle is the important part here. Seattle's allowing the
fewest Fantasy points to wide receivers over the last five games,
and over those five that five game stretch, one receiver
has topped forty four yards.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
It was pookin a cool and he only got seventy
five scoreless yards. Davante Adams one catch, Marvin Harrison three catches.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
This is a brutal spot.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
And Justin Jefferson is my wide receiver thirty five, So
you've probably got better receivers to use this week.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, I think any wide receivers going up against Michael
McDonald and hoping for sweet freedom. So we'll have to
have to see how that goes.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Ah, well, dust Man, that was really good.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Every once in a while I can get a represent here, somebody,
somebody will get Yeah, but Max Bros Real quick with
the Max Brosemer thing, my good refasan up there and
you know in Minnesota, Yeah, I know him. Well, yeah,
I have not a reef for years, and he had
he already had to deal with Carson Wentz this year,
and if you know a reef's history, it is his pure,
unvital hatred of Carson Wentz.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
The Broseman.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Isn't going to be funnier if Broseber's comically bad, or
is it going to be funnier if he's like somehow
really good.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
We've already seen comic bad this year.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
I might, you know, as a Viking fan, please make
Max Bros mure Okay yet for people that don't know
he he and this is I know what is getting
super boring. I'm gonna Minnesota right a dach that you
guys love the breakdown Minnesota Golden Gopher football. He was
the Gopher quarterback for his final senior year of college.
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Last year, undrafted, the Vikings just brought him in for
a tryout. He looked good, they kept him on the roster,
and ultimately he was he was. He actually outperformed JJ
McCarthy in the preseason, so they kept him unexpectedly. But
he'll be making his first NFL start as an undrafted
free agent.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Maybe it's Brock party two point o. Who knows, you
know somebody else who's got a little bit of regrets
going on. Maybe is one receivers out playing the other
downer in Arizona's Michael Wilson better than Marvin Harrison junior.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
He might be.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
I mean, what what's happened to the last two games
with Michael Wilson is staggering. Then I'm gonna give you
two game totals for Michael Wilson with the two games
that Mark Harrison has missed with his appendicitis attack. Thirty
three targets, twenty five catches, three hundred three yards, I
mean needless to say, this blows away anything Michael Wilson
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had ever done in the past, but it also blows
away anything Marvin Harrison had done. Not only had Marvin
Harrison never posted back to back one hundred yard games
like Michael Wilson just did. Marvin Harrison only has two
one hundred yard games in his NFL career, you know,
Wilson just you know, the two one hour games in
the last week. So Drew Patson, the offensive coordinator, came
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out yesterday and he said, We're gonna have to change
our progressions. We're gonna have to change the reeds that
we're asking Jacoby Brissett to do because we need to
start prioritizing Michael Wilson. I think Wilson has looked great.
I don't think this is just like all volume in
all fluke. I think he's looked I think he's looked
tremendously good. And even with Harrison expected back this week,
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we're still starting Michael Wilson out there.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Well, I just check to see if Michael Wilson was
still available in my fantasy league, but he is not.
That's probably why I'm four and eight on the year.
But I did get my quarterback back, Joe Burrow coming
back against the Ravens tomorrow night. Should I start him
in his first game back coming off that injury?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Hi? Nick?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
It is?
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Is it go this way in every every segment where
Ben talks for like ninety percent of the time, and
then you just get to like cut in with a
word here and there.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
No, that's that's actually Grant Nicks off tonight.
Speaker 8 (26:27):
But uh yeah, that's Grant. Oh okay, all right, Okay,
it's hard to tell. They sounds so much like I.
I look, I do for me, I do. I do
tend to ramble sometimes to dominate the conversation, but tonight
it's me mostly because it's just me. Otherwise we could
just okay, all right, silence.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
Well great, you could warn me so I don't make
a complete ass out of myself.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Well, I think I'm honored to think you sound You
think I.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Sound like Nick?
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Well, Nick's got good pipes. I don't you know that's
a feeling anything.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
So I hear Joe Burrow making his first start since
Week one in that Week one game, and granted it
turned out he ended up getting nicked out. If it
was a late week one, early week two, but either way,
no touchdowns in that game. Burrow going up against the
raven secondary. Now, if you make the mistake of looking
at the Ravens like defensive statistics for the year, you
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can get a very skewed understanding of the Ravens secondary,
because for the first five weeks, their whole secondary was
hurt and they were just getting killed. Since Week six,
the Ravens have arguably the second best pass defense in
the league, second only to your own in Denver.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Ravens had given.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Up three passing touchdowns since Week five and just two
hundred and eighteen yards per game. So this is a
really good defense. Joe Burrow is not gonna have to
Higgins in this game. He's gonna have eleven games of
rust that he needs to knock off. So I don't
love the way this is shaping up. Cincinnati. Baltimore probably
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gets ahead, maybe just the sheer volume. Joe Burrow's gonna
be okay here. But if you've got another good option,
I might wait a week and let's just let let's
just let Joe Burrow get through this.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Game with an easier matchup next week.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Paul, And it always.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Goes too fast, probably because I am on a on
a monologue slash the liiloquy. But I'll try to keep
my question shorter for you. Next time you're you're you're
back on.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
Yeah, now that's okay, Hey, don't eat the yams. Let's
let's just make a statement that Aams are not cool
and we don't eat him three hundred and sixty four
days a year.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
You don't need to eat him tomorrow either.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I'm with you on that one, and we'll start the
campaign don't eat the Yams. We're gonna make. This is
gonna be a nation one. We're gonna do this, and
I hey, I appreciate your time. I appreciate your pity.
Laugh on my Michael McDonald joke, and uh, let's get
back to it.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Brother, Well we'll talk next week.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
All right. Sounds good, Paul charging I always love talking
to it. He gets our brand in terms of the humor.
Five six six zeros. The text line, guys, lots of
lots of stuff coming here. Brian asking how she door
is a winner if you would ten and twelve against
Power four opponents, Well, I mean a lot of that
was the defense. I think somebody said, he guesses Bnix
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leads the league in intentional grounding. I don't know. I
have to look that up.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I would one hundred percent believe it, because I've been
complaining about that all year long. Just throw it a
little bit closer to the receiver. You don't have to
make a look so obvious where you're just chucking it
into the dirt.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, I don't know. I'll have to go back and check.
I'm genuinely curious on that. Turkey sandwich is a potato salad.
The day after is always my favorite part of Christmas.
That sounds horrible like leftovers. That's your favorite part of Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I love the leftover. Really, we had friends Giving last weekend.
I've been eating leftovers all week long. I don't eat
leftover like I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I don't. I genuinely do not e left over.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Neither does my wife and I think you're both weird.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Well that's fine, we'll be weird together.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Oh please don't.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Oh five six sixty nine zero, let's see your eight
one sixth fan of the Wattenberg signing. We're gonna have
to get younger, cheaper at left guard, left tackle, and
probably right tackle. Let's not add center to the needs. Yeah,
I Broncos hit with the highest paid offensive lines out there,
the highest paid offensive line by far out there in
the NFL. Everybody on that line, nobody's on a rookie deal.
(30:10):
Of the starters. Now, I don't with the Ben Powers thing,
he's probably gone. You probably got one more year of
McGlinchey and then he's gone. You know, Bowles was gett
a little long in the tooth at this point. You
got to think he's here for the next three years. Yeah,
probably two three years long as he continues to hold
up and you know, the body holds up and all that.
But you know, I mean as far as the rest
of that goes, yeah, I would suggest that powers of
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McGlinchey are probably, you know, this offseason and next offseason gone.
You probably replaced them with draft picks and go from there.
I don't know that I would have done the Wattenbird thing,
but hey, I you know, they see something, they're going
with it. That's that's what they do, you know, is
what it is. I'm not complaining.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
That's what I wanted to ask you about because everything
I heard in the off season like he was a
huge question mark, didn't look great during training camp, first
couple of weeks of the year, everyone was rushing us
right up the middle. And now he's getting twelve million
a year. I mean what that's like, top five six
in the league.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Top five money. Yeah, because he's getting the same he's
basically got the Lloyd Cushingbury deal, you know, and I
mean the different The highest paid center of the league
is Creed Humphrey, which you know, as it should be,
I get it. But yeah, that's that's that that's good
money for a center position. But that's the way Sean
Payton constructs a roster too. Sean pays one wide receiver,
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he pays across the offensive line, he may pay a
tight end, and he pays a quarterback and that that's
that's about it. And then he tries to sprinkle the
rest of money that's left over there on the defensive side,
and you know, does everything else with low cost veteran
minimums or rookie deal guys. And that's that's just I mean,
we've got plenty of evidence looking back to New Orleans
if that's how he constructs a roster. So you know,
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I mean, as far as that kind of stuff goes,
that's where all the savings will come in when you know,
because and that's part of the reason you've only got
one wide receiver and all these receiver rumors that keep
coming out about the Broncos and this, that and the other.
I'm like, guys, they're not paying another resistious not what
he does. It's just not And that wasn't the reason
I said Brandan Cooks wasn't coming here. They don't have
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that kind of relationship just because you know, I mean,
you think everybody that ever played for him, you know
that kind of stuff. But Brandy Cooks and Chomping don't
really have a great relationship. I knew that wouldn't wun't happening. Uh,
I guess see real quick before we got Nick Javala
coming up next segment. Stranger Things Volume five drop today.
I had a chance to watch it yet, but it's
(32:25):
out there on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That three or four years after the last season.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Something like they've spent a long time. All those kids
are like twenty years old now, so to say, like,
isn't Billie Bobby Brown and she's like twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Older with a kid?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, I mean, I'm dead seriously, I will say, I'm
still excited to watch it.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Oh yeah, yeah that sup was gonna ask you, are
you one of those people that because it seems like
it's a it's a pretty divided camp. Like there's some
people that like, I love that show, but there are
people that don't. There are people that really like, I'm
not watching that. I think those are just haters of
good television. Where are they watching reality TV?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Instead?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
This is quality programming And like each episode is a
movie basically, I.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Mean Kanda, Yeah, And it's all like the whole eighties
you know thing, which I mean, if you know me
at all, you know you love that love and the
Dungeons Dragons thing, which if you know me at all,
you know I love that. So that's that's what I
don't really talk about in the air, do I. I
really haven't.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
No, But I'm glad you just outed yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
That's fine. Everybody knows I'm a nerd, so a big deal. Yeah.
Nelli Biby Brown by the way, she married Jon bon
Jovi's kid. Yep, it's funny. Yeah, And and like it's
it's funny to me because people like, yeah, she's uh uh,
she's British or whatever. Actually she's Spanish. She was born
in Spain, Marbella, Spain. She was born in Marbello, Spain.
(33:42):
I think she I think they moved to her parents
were British and living in Spain, I think, and that's
where the uh the accent comes from. But she lived
in Spain for the first I don't remember four or
five years of her life before they moved to him.
They and then they moved to back to Britain for
a minute, and then to America where they lived in Orlando. Yeah,
well I used to there's an overlap. I lived to
(34:04):
Tampa and you know, forty minutes away back when she
was growing up and a kid and all that kind
of stuff. So it's weird stuff I was. It's weird
that I keep tracking people that come out of that area,
Like in areas where I lived at a certain part time,
I always keep tracking people that come out of that
area and go on to things.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Who's the pride of where you grew up in Arkansas?
Speaker 7 (34:21):
Me?
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Which is a sad, sad, sad state of affairs, like
on the on the on the school's Wikipedia page, I
am the celebrity that you know, the notable people. It's
me And again a nineteen thirties. Gut that I'm related
to a nineteen thirties track and field athlete named Footsie Britt.
I feel bad for that town. I feel worse. You
have no idea. Rockos Country died back here for this
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