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you were skeptical of my trade Jamal Murray plan.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I understand the trepidation.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
But as we watch the Nuggets against the Calves tonight struggle,
and it became clear that it feels to me like
that this this team has constructed has kind of reached
its ceiling.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's kind of reached its it's exhausted its.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Ability to get to the championship, and it feels like
some changes need to be made to put some they
they just feel tired. It feels like you gotta get
some some fresh bood of spark in there, if you will.
And I have advocated for moving on from Jamal Murray.
I did this offseason. I'll advocate for it again. There
are several different routes you can go here to try
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to restock the deck, the first of which being just
trade for another player. Financially, a trade of Jamal Murray,
for instance, for Daron Fox is almost one to one,
and I would rather have Daron Fox, who I think
is a better rebounding guard anyway, which is what you
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sort of need when you have an Koli Yoki who's
going to be on the perimeter at times. You need
your guards to be able to rebound. I would rather
have someone like that. He's also a better primary scorer
when he needs to be than Jamal Murray at this
point in his career.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Would you trade Jamal Murray for Diaron Fox? Yeah, I definitely.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
If I'm Cavin Booth, I consider it right because once
you make this move about how the Nuggets are constructed
at this particular point, and this is this may be
fall right in line with having Westbrook being a member
of the team. I've always felt that you can let
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him play the point guard and take the stress off
of Jamal Murray. But the thing is for me, like,
if you're trading Murray, who and what are you getting
back in return? How that's going to impact the roster?
Does that mean that you move MPJA two or you
keep him on the roster, because if you were to
move those two guys, now you have to ask yourself, well,
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where's the help coming from for Nicola Yokis, Because one
of the issues the Nuggets have is that it's not just.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Jamal Murray, it is their bitch.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Their bench is a group that gets outscored and so
much so looking at the game tonight, while Nicola Jokis
had to come back in the game with a little
over his seven twenty remaining in.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
The game, being down fifteen exactly just kind.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Of I guess make it look more reasonable at that
particular point. But if you're going to tell me you
want to move Jamal Murray, you got to give me
something that is going to say, Okay, well you're moving
him a guy who does well with Nicola Jokis in
the pick and roll. Okay, Well what other player you're
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bringing in that I can do that now? Aaron Fox
hell of a score, three point shooter, something that the
Nuggets have been trying to rebuild on since there's no KCP, Right, So,
I mean, is there more.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
To this story or does it stop just there at Well,
there's Maul Murray, I wanted.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I wanted to move Murray for Buddy Heeled in the
offseason and get some picks and everything else. You know,
with with that situation, that that situation is long since past.
Do we see what Heal is able to do now
when he's in the right system for him. But I mean,
look at this thing. You need to get some new
blooded here.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
There has to. I mean, you look at these and
they see they just look tired. They just look like
a team.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
It's just like, well, you know, we're whatever they're they're
about to be a five hundred basketball team. You know,
you're talking about eleven and nine after today and you're
headed for five hundred basketball And.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That's it's not gonna get. I mean, this team is
not winning anything.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
If you if you look at the rest of the West, right,
you might win an opening round series, but.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
They're not beaten.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
They're not beating a Minnesota, they're not beating a Phoenix,
they're not being a Golden State in a seven game series.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Like this is just not there.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
This is not a team it's constructed to uh to
beat those kinds of teams.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Well, you know, I'm with you with the fact of
saying that the Nuggets forget.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
About it, okayc You're at Houston at this point.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, I mean they need an injection of new blood, right,
And that doesn't.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Necessarily mean that you move Samaul Murray.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
You may need to get more players that make your
second unit that much better to take the pressure off
of those guys, because you're right, they they looked tired.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Absolutely they do.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Think about the run that they've been on over the
past four years. That takes a lot out of you.
How much rest do you think Nicola Jokishi has received,
right or Jamal mrch Just think about after last season
they lost to the Minnesota Timberwolves and both of those
guys represented their country in the Olympic. Now, to Nicola
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Yoki's credit, he looked like the same Jokis who was
in a Nuggets uniform.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Now Jamal playing for Team Canada, it looked a little different, right.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
So I can understand the fact of saying, you know,
those guys being tired, but that is probably weighing on
Jamal the most as far the level of production. But
if you can bring some other guys in here that
can uplift the bench area, maybe that solves your issue.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Maybe that that's the biggest question.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
That's probably where Cavin Booth and Michael Malone needs to
put a lot of their attention and showing up the
bench play.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Oh, I agree with you, and.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I think at the end of the day, you know
you've got to get more out of Watson and Strawther
for sure. You know you haven't really you had that
one game I've got out of sorrys. The rest of
it hasn't really been all that great. Nause. You get
a few minutes here or there, like there's just you're
just not getting quality minutes out of out of anybody.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
But we're us Westbrook Realley.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Well see, for me, they need more two way players
and guys who specialize on the defensive side.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Of the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
But they still can give you rebounds, they can give
you assists. These are hustle guys. If you look at
every single team, no matter the professional sport, you have
those types of guys. Those are your your hustle guys
or whatever. The Nuggets need more of those scrappy type
of well.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
But they put one of those guys in the starting
lineup already, Christma Brown.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
They don't have that off the bench now right, And.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
That affects how productive the bitch can actually be. Now,
I know every player wants to be started, and I
know that CHRISTA. Brown wanted to be a starter in
the lead, but he's best suited the.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Listen, that's no disrespect to him, no, but that that
second unit needs someone to lead them, someone who's going
to give them the edge and added to this person
who could score, and he gives the Nuggets that.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
No, it's not, it's not not. Being a six man
is a specific role in the NBA, and it's not.
It's not a knock on you being the guy who's
able to come in off the bench and put juice
into the lineup. We saw it before, you know, you
Nuggets have seen it before. Keneth Reid, right, Freed was
not the same guy in the starting lineup as he
was coming off the bench.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And some guys don't want to accept that role because
you think it's less said, and I get it, because
you're right. They feel as though it beludle's who and
what they're trying to accomplish in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But there is value to be had.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
There because if you become a great sixth man, to me,
you stay in the league.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Along top standpoint, there was a guy Corlus Williamson who
was a phenomenal six man, you know, juice guy coming
off the bench with that kind of still.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Honestly, Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Wasn't his best when he was coming off the bench
as a six man juice guy, irritant, you know that
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
There are plenty of guys who have been good players
in this league that are absolute studs.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Coming off the bench as a six man type.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Once again, I think that's where the Nuggets really need
to do better. They need to focus on their bench
play and trying to fortify that with guys with some grits,
some attitude. I mean, look, DeAndre jordan is a great story, right,
but he's a raw, raw guy. But you need to
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flip that roster spot in the money that you're paying
him to get a quality guy that actually helps you
win basketball games. Because let's be totally honest, Like, if
Nicola need an actual arrest, could you.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Count on DeAndre Jordans for there's nobody on there you
can count. You can't.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So this is how the Nuggets, in my situation, a
void the craziness that you are talking about in trading
Jamal Murray.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
At this point though, you kind of have to, and
do you have to? I mean, what are you gonna do.
You've got to shake this thing up.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You've got to move those other guys, move some of
those other guys.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, I mean, if you want to move Porter, okay,
well you're gonna find the take that deal. If you
don't have to, what are you getting back for that?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
That's what my problem is, that Lucienbury has some value
in the position that he plays.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Porn is just kind of a guy.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
But once again, because of that, moving Jamal and having
Porter remain on the team, just being a guy that
who is maybe his game is sometime that's the way
to summarize his game. I don't I don't know if
I can't, I can't agree with that because you've got
two guys who are I would say, household names here
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in Denver. Jamal hasn't really in my opinion, taken off
where he's well respected around the league in that way
like a Nicola Yokic. But those two guys work together.
Look how long Utah hell stocked them alone together?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Right, and then they just kept changing the cast around
him just second there for a little Byron Russell or whatever.
But you had to find a tertiary option in here.
And the problem here is that the Nuggets don't have
a primary secondary option. They have Nicola Jokic and other guys,
and sometimes that's Jamal and sometimes that's that's Michael Porter Jr.
Aaron Gordon is a the core is Jokic, and Gordon
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Gordon is the the Chess Peace defensive player, and Jokich
is Jokic. You gotta find shooters, you gotta find two
way players and shoot.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I think they can shoot, all right? What do you
what do you think about a three teams tray where.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Jamal goes to the Miami Heat for a couple of players,
They get a guy like Duncan Robinson or Tyler Herro because.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
They don't think it's enough for I don't think that's
enough for Murray fix back. On top of that or something,
the Miami is willing to give up a future first
round pick. I mean maybe maybe, I mean and I
hear because part of the thing is is death here.
But is either one of those.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Guys like you're not trying to recreate Jamal and the
aggregate Russ is gonna move into the starting position as
a point guard at that point? Are these are Hero
and Robinson really providing you with championship caliber depth?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
If you believe that's the case, then ye.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Cause here, well, I would say more Hero than Duncan
because Hero can shoot, right, and you need three point shooting,
especially looking at the teams in Weston Conference.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Right, I'm with you on that. I'm absolutely with you
on that. I would probably need more than just Hero
and Robinson in a future. First, you know, I think
you have to you said a three team trade. What
are you giving up at all? That you're just giving up?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Jamal? Like, are you giving up? Is there anything beyond
that that you're giving up?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
No? I mean you say Peyton Watson, okay, right, I
mean when you give it up some defense there, I mean,
maybe you gotta give us. You gotta give something to
get something. And right now, the Nuggets don't have what
it takes because Christian Brown needs to be on the
second unit and ready for that role, you know, and
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Zegnagy has been on the team for a couple of
years and he hasn't really stepped off that the bitch
for the Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
So so where does that leave them?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, I'm hesitant to because next year you're gonna get
your draft pick back. You know, you gotta get You
had the draft pick, you had the guy to spell
Jokic and uh and and he got hurt. You're gonna
have him back next year. So I'm hesitant to invest
too much into that portion of it. But you've got
to find the right pieces to put around Yokice to
make another championship. R otherless, you're just wasting this window.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Well, maybe you.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
You take that approach that Michael Malone has. That's a
little different from Calvin Booth because Booth wants some more
younger players because he's thinking depth and futures. But coach Malone,
in my opinion, realize the window for Dakola Jokic, and
he's like, look, we need to go get some vetter
complete pieces that I know that can come in and
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pay play right now, because we already know what they
can do and we're not gonna ask them to do
anything that they can do.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
What we're asking him to do I fit well with
what we're trying to do offensively defensively.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I think in the answerroom that.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Philosophy could work if you're suggesting that the Nuggets are
still in that championship window.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Who's the one player in the league wish list wise
that if you could go get to pair with Yokich,
you would Steph Curry. Well, I mean yeah, okay, Well,
well you asked the question realistically. They quickly Let me
try that again, Let me try that again, Try that again,
let me try that again realistically, because Curry is never ly.
But like, for in second, I'm sitting there with the
Buddy healed thing, right and I'm like, dude, if you
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could pare Buddy heeled and Yoki chup, I swear to
you that thing would would.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Be popping every night? What about Kyrie Irver? I don't
know how that works in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Well what we see we're not talking about the locker like.
I'm sitting there like I'm like, oh no, wait man,
So so you asked me a question, I gave you
two answers, and you kind of shot gun them both down.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'm not a post I'm listening. I'm listening to it.
I'm just saying like, I don't know if that works
in the lock I love it on the court. I
love it on the court. Okay, answers, Lucas, you know
what I was, that's Michael Porter.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Sign me up for that. I've said years ago. Some
people thought, oh, you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Due if you were to put Nikola Jokics together, Oh
my god, oh man, you.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Probably have to give I mean you're talking.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
About you give it up, Murray, you give it up Porter,
you give it up three first rounders, and you're probably
giving up and you probably give it up like Payt Watson.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
On top of that, I might do it because at
that point, who's stopping you in the league. They got
to outscore you. No, made that because you don't have
any pitch. That's what somebody at that point, You know
what you can for negulate where you can get a
couple of players here here and there and just kind
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of make it work. Guys willing to take veteran minimum
deals just to play with those two guys get so
with that.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'm sure you know who who I know would take that,
Chris Paul. Yeah, Chris Paul would definitely take that. Right.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So, yeah, you're gonna pair up CP in Westbrook to
run the point with Luke at the two.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Hey, hey, look as a fring it up to Hey,
just rerunning. We're run we out and running. Well, those
two are running.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Chris Russ Westbrookers sitting back to like they gotta walk
in with tennis ball, try to get down there.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
You don't have to do all the work. Nikole is
gonna set it up. He's gonna feed you. You still
got Aaron going on the team. Who's gonna cut to
the basket. Yeah, Chris Paul is a veteran guy's not
as quick as he used to. He's gonna set everything
else up. He's gonna get to his spot and right this.
At that point, all you had to do is, hey,
share and deliver.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
That's it. Yeah, shareon deliver. I'm wondering, I'm gonna look
this up later and figure out if I could, if
you can make.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
That trade work at Jamalaport, how you can make that
work financially and everything else to make that work, because man,
that would be not the Dallas has ever given up, Luca, No,
But still, you know, I mean, if you want to,
if you want to hit the pipe dream, all right,
there you go.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
But I still like the idea if you could with
the Kyrie Irving, they don't have to get along in
the locker room, not to say that they will not
get along, and Kyrie is just that type of guy.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But just think about it. He can create his own.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Shot, he can get to the basket, he could take
a guy off the dribble.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I mean, he's everything you want in the point guard.
Yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
No, I'm with it, Which brings me back right back
to the darn Fox trade. Would you trade Jamal Murray
for Derek Fox?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I would, of course, but I know Sacramento will not
allow that to.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Happen and save money on that deal. You can, but
it's got to be something else.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I mean, Fun in my opinion, is a hell of
a player because for me, he reminds me of a
better or a more athletic Steph Curry who could play defense.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That's what reminds me of.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Okay, I'm just like, at the end of the day,
that was where I was going with this. I was like, look, financially,
you can make this work. It's not it's not impossible.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
The Kings actually do save a little bit of money
on that. They're going nowhere right now, so you know.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But pipe Dream is Luka Dondre. That's pipe dream. That's Pipeream. Yeah,
I mean this pappen. That's that's really good. Lord.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Uh, well, she's the thing with Luka Doncic, he's one
of the few NBA stars maybe with enough power to
uh where it doesn't matter what the MAVs want, in
the situation where he can maybe force his way out
if if you want.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I don't think it ever happened, but it'd be nice
to dream. Some dare to dream.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
We gotta hit Commercial break Market's CPT to night back
into this texts coming in.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
A lot of a lot of texts about the basketball stuff.
We can get into some of that here in a
little bit, but it's, uh, that's.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Fascinating, Stacy for you to says he's taking his lunch
break is vapor and listening.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
To b CT.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Okay, you gotta Stacey, you gotta tell the you gotta
tell your boss. That's been all bright Nick Ferguson are
saying that you should be allowed to text whatever you
want into this show. That's like, if he has any
problems with that, he can go see Nick Ferguson directly.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, you can come see me directly.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
But Ben has already stated to me off air that
he's willing to compensate you, uh well for your losses.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
No, no, I did not did not say that. I
did not. It was you call me to just say
I feel like that is a fifth sir.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Wow, oh you compensated. I mean just when you think
you know people. We'll send him some care kicks. Oh
it makes sure his freeze dry too. Yeah, yeah, we'll
make up. We'll put it, put some dry ice in there.
So appreciation. Listen to Stacy. Yeah, we appreciate it. We
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have so we appreciate all our listeners. And I hope
you guys are having a great holiday season thus far.
Five six six nine ers text line.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
By the way, December fifteenth ten days now, KOA celebrating
eight huge anniversary. December fifteenth will be the one hundred
year anniversary of KOA flipping on the switch one number.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Fifteenth, nineteen twenty four. Are think it gonna be any
gifts because as an anniversary this in.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Kate, I don't know if we're doing all that around here,
and we might talk to Dave Tepper about that.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
We have a football game going on that day obviously,
on December fifteenth, that's the Colts game.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Probably the biggest game in Denver. Big is the brocktball
game in Denver.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
It s'ds the run to the super Bowl because if
you win this win, you're pretty much in the playoffs.
You win that game, it's it. It's not a lock,
but it would take a lot of scenarios, plus you're
losing out.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
To do so. You lose.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You lose that game to the Colts, though, and now
you're only one game ahead of the Colts. They own
the tiebreaker and they're playing Tennessee, Jacksonville the New York
Giants to finish out the season, while we got to
take on the Chargers, Bengals and Chiefs. Or you gotta
give you this touf an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Need to win that game. Yes, gotta win that game.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
That's that's I mean, you're not eliminated that points, but
it's one of those ones that she makes a dramatic
difference in your playoff.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Can't we safely say that every game from here on
out is a knee to want you. If you win
the Colts game, you can almost lose out and still
make the playoffs when no one's trying to do that.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
But I'm trying to for losing out things happen.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
If you win that Coult game, you could probably still
lose out and make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
The whole idea is to win every seat, to win
every game.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I'm just saying, if disaster happens, why are you always
with the escape hast the saying if it happens, if.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
You win that Colts game, you got all the padding
in the world. You know what, they say it was
a fifth.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I've never heard that. You never heard was a fifth?
You've never ever heard this one?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Because saying you made this song, I don't know as
the text line if I was a fifth?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
You ever heard this before? Zactually here, they're young. You
know what the you know what you as a pulse
of the kids.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
He might not have heard old school? Well it's too
old school for his generation. Okay, have you ever heard
the if if was a fifth? I've never heard that.
Really puzzitive.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It sounds like a page from a doctor SEUs bu
okay during the break.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Exactly. I think.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Just because it rhymes doesn't mean that it's a nursery rhyme.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I mean, yes, they being the people who I.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Grew up around, right, they would always the sentence green
exenham no if was a fifth, like, we would all
be tore up, right like, I mean, yes, I'm giving
you the PC version.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yes, so now you shot in your head like the
no no like? So now does it resonate with you?
Have you heard it before?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
It resonates with me? I still haven't heard it before.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Anybody like if anybody else textually five six six cines
or if you ever heard of if was a fifth?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Because I if was a fifth, we will all be
tore up right now. But obviously there there was some inflatives,
right I'm looking up what you now now?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
But e literally I thought this was like some kind
of like, I'm like, what are you talking about right now?
Actually thought it was some doctor Sue's nursery rhyme. Well,
I mean, yeah, a green agent Ham. But I'm gonna
to break the last time. Yes, I'm gonna ask Tony manus.
I'm gonna ask they temperthday, Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Okay, in all fairness, they may not know if they
do good on them, but the.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Text line is not responding. We'll find out.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
We'll find if anybody has heard this expression before. I
feel like the whitest guy alive right now, because I
have not heard this.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well, you know what, maybe it was the only saying
around the people in the group that I grew up there.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Maybe it was a Florida colloquial thing.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I never heard it.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Okay, well it could It could be a Florida Miami
type thing. It could be.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Bill texts in and says, I'm sixty two. I've never
heard this.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
He's never he's never heard it. They maybe new school
for Bill.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Maybe it falls in that middle generation between the years
the Bill.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Maybe it's kind of demographic type of thing. You know.
Maybe I don't know. I don't know. Manle we go
back to the wash fluff here, mraphics. I'm just saying,
was he a singer? Were you here for that? Are
you here for the wash fluffing? I was not here
for the wash cloths? Singers?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Does it?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Singers? Looks like he's not a wash Do you use
the golf or do you use a wash cloth?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I don't use a watch.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, I told you, he looks like he's not an
right down demographics. See there it is so so some
of these things kind of goes back to where you
were born from an area.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
But it could be from a demographic stamps too.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Oh, I have not heard of this. Three two three,
I've not heard of this. Wow, we're gonna find this out.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
We're gonna we're gonna get the pulse of people here.
Look how far out of touch I am on this one.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'm sure if I call Clinton porters right now, he
would be able to complete that phrase.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
We need to do that. That's what we need to do.
You know what we're gonna do. I'm gonna put together
a bit. That's what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
What if you randomly call former teammates and you're just
gonna say that and see what they respond with, and
then we'll pull clips together and then we'll we'll put
it on the air.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
We might have the pre recorder because I can't. We're
not gonna do what.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I did not know you here now.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
We're not doing that live response before call Cole calling
someone and hit the red buzzy.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
We're doing. We'll do like a man on the street
pre recording package.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
We'll figure out exactly how many and we'll go around
the locker.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Room do it, just asking how many? Yeah, I mean
if it was a fifth and did you see what
they hold them? What they said? I bet you.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I mean, guys in the Broncos locker room, even though
they are probably around Zach Seger's age.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
They would know what that means. We'll find out.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
That people come to Broncos country.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I'd like you let's see. I'm just I'm just saying,
Zack scene is a steel stone.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Like I haven't never heard of it. That's from Dave.
I'm up in the Midwest, live in Arizona, Colorado. Never
heard of it. Oh, so I would like when people
text in tell us.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Where the seven two l says it's a twenty ten
song by a little fat and someone.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
So somebody's on your side.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Ferguson, Oh, this may be a rocky mountain high Midwest
thing where people just don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I mean, I'm not like, I'm not a rocky mountain
like I came out here with Teddy. I mean just
been twelve years now Arkansas. But I didn't come here
from Marcus.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I came here from Tampa, Okay, Okay, Tampa by way
of Arkansas, by.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Way of almost everywhere from Arkansas when I was in
high school and after.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Come on, man, somebody's there's someone out there right now
driving who has heard the saying before if if was
a fifth, we would all be tore up right now,
because you know what a fifth is?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, first of all, is that do you know what if? Yeah,
I know what a fifth is?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Okay, are you sure you're old enough to know what
a fifth is?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I'm not bad there is. You don't have a face
to face I could say that.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh my god, Well I do agree with demographics can
cause this. I've heard different things called different things in
all kinds of places. Here we have a garage, but
in Iowa they call it. They call it a carstall.
I'm sorry, yeah, they call it. They don't call a garage.
They call it a car stall. Apparently. I know in
the UK they call it a garage. The garage is
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a garage that they pronounced it. I'll call my buddy
Paul Brown will find out the garage. They don't have
that any garages in the UK.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Everybody, just like.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Here, we call it's an apartment. They call it the
flip flat.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
We call it the trunk. They call it the boot.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yes, so do they say that's the boot? Say no, no, No,
boot is what they put on your car. You don't
pay your tickets?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, or Canada.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, the Canada boot is about is about. Just pronounce
it differently, by the way. So to clarify that he's
not on your side, he simply googled it. But to
your credit, if he googled it and on the internet,
it's on the so it must be true.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, that's what I've been told. If it's on the Internet,
it must be true. It has to be true.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Both nickshun Offensive Rookie of the Week three times out
of four and brock Bowers gets Offensive Rookie of the month.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Make that math math for me there, Nick Ferguson, Well,
the math is not mathing.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
But in all sincerity, brock Bauers has definitely balled out
and that draft sad is being drafted right after Bob
Nicks at thirteen going to the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
It's showing because he is.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
A force to be reckoned when he was one of
those guys that I was hoping by chance that the
Broncos would have have the ability to take to add
to a guy like Bob Nick. Sure well whomever or
the quarterback was that they selected. But that's something that
it could confuse me too, as well as far as
being I guess offensive Player.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Of the Month.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I don't know how what number is, what metrics they
use to come up with that, I don't know. If
they say, well, you know what, bows won a couple
of awards during the week, you know, let's give it.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
To someone else.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, but if you win three of them in a month,
you figure you would be the Player of the month.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Well, once again, that means that you are expecting those
who are coming to these calculations to be smart enough
to go. You know what, I think this guy should
get it because he's won already three times and to
give a month so I'm not gonna give those intoos.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Are you telling me that the voters have voter fatigue
and voting for votix?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
What else?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
What else could be the reason as to why, because
it tell me doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
It doesn't make sense to me. By yes, two get
defensive Player of the Month.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
That sort of makes sense, although I think I would
have given it to his teammate in Panino, not that
I'm complaining there. There's a lot of hardware the Moroncos
are pulling in with these of the Week of the
month awards.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
They're a young team.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
We talk about this a lot Bronco's third youngest team
in the NFL. Can that kind of stuff become a
distraction for a young team?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
No, no, no, it's not because it all goes back
to the leadership in the locker room and the coaching staff.
It is the fact that you acknowledge and you validate
the players for the accomplishments and the recognition they received.
But you tell them that's not the hardware that means
the most.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Right, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And if you ask any guy, one of those guys
in that locker room, they would be willing to give
up any kind of monthly or weekly accolades for the
one that matters the most, and that's a Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Right, You would give that up because you had toque
or a trophy or ring. Right.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
And once again, it depends on who you're talking to,
it might be a little different, right. But but for me,
it's thank you for the season awards, but I want
the postseason award because it is in the postseason that
you become legendary. Everything that happens during the season we
remember vaguely, but we always remember what the teams did
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in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
You'll remember me for centuries is that what you're saying,
only if there's a dub behind your name, if you
got a hell.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I'm quoting, Wow, I got two ls in my last
I'm sitting here trying to quote song lyrics. I look,
I agree with you. You want, obviously, the Lobardi, you want,
the races, you want, all that kind of stuff. I
worry was that, all of a sudden, this team is
experiencing success for the first time in a long time.
You got guys that are starting to pilot plaques week
after week, and I just wonder if any of that
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stuff starts to become a little bit of a distraction
to those guys.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Well, it all depends on who the guy.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Is, especially if they're young players like that. PS two
has been here before. Yeah, he's been a probos so
he knows okay whatever. And also he's played at Alabama,
so he's no stranger to the absolation from the outside
and people uplifting him and talking about how great he is.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Right, That's that's a guy I don't worry about.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
But if you get a guy who no one's really
talked about that much and he hasn't received a lot
of praise, that guy, I would worry about now, Like
if anyone is worrying about bot Nicks, you shouldn't because
you said, he's won this award three times already. Yeah,
and I haven't seen a significant change that would suggest
that he's going south.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
No, I wouldn't either, Like I just you know, kind
of in the back of my head, like this is
a young football team. You start to you start to
get some of that, and you start to feel yourself sometimes, you.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Know, you start to get it. You start to get
a little recognition. Sometimes you start to feel yourself.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Well, and listen, Ben, it's okay to feel yourself sometimes,
to understand that this is where you started, this is
where you are, this is where you're getting to. And
having recognition by voters or people around the league talking
about certain players, you hope that it inspires your younger
roster to say, you know what, Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I go to work every single day with Ben.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I put on my shoes, my pants one leg at
a time, just like bitch.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
When I put it on, putting my pants on, I
make gold records. And what that cow bell, I tell you,
cow Bell, it's a terrible walking.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Hey, listen.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
If that is something that getting the players going, hey,
so be it, so be it.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Oh, I you know I'm all for Like I never
I was never one of those guys that cared about
that kind of stuff, Like I wanted the award because
I wanted to win something like I wanted to win everything,
but I didn't really care, you know, like, uh, that
was one of the things. So that the Color broadcast,
just like we won the Evening show it. I think
the plaque is still over there on Chris Donaldson's desk,
like we never even bothered to pick it up. We
just won the thing and we're like, cool, we got it.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Boom again.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
It just goes back to you who you are as
an individual. What's your overall goal?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
What's the wit everything?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, I want I want to win the commercial breaks, Yes,
I want to win everything competitive like that.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You want to win the commercial breaks.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Now that's different to win the bye week I want
with the commercial bro I would win it all.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I'll be going to bed tonight. I'm gonna win sleeping.
Is that equivalent to winning the off season? I would
to win that too. Off season?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
When I brushed my teeth, I'm gonna win brush my teeth.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I am competitive things so that the hygiene trophy of
the year a war, I mean, is there one? Because
I'm gonna win that too. No, you're not gonna win that.
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you were skeptical of my trade Jamal Murray plan.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I understand the trepidation.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
But as we watch the Nuggets against the Calves tonight struggle,
and it became clear that it feels to me like
that this this team has constructed has kind of reached
its ceiling.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's kind of reached its it's exhausted its.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Ability to get to the championship, and it feels like
some changes need to be made to put some they
they just feel tired. It feels like you gotta get
some some fresh bood of spark in there, if you will.
And I have advocated for moving on from Jamal Murray.
I did this offseason. I'll advocate for it again. There
are several different routes you can go here to try
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to restock the deck, the first of which being just
trade for another player. Financially, a trade of Jamal Murray,
for instance, for Daron Fox is almost one to one,
and I would rather have Daron Fox, who I think
is a better rebounding guard anyway, which is what you
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sort of need when you have an Koli Yoki who's
going to be on the perimeter at times. You need
your guards to be able to rebound. I would rather
have someone like that. He's also a better primary scorer
when he needs to be than Jamal Murray at this
point in his career.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Would you trade Jamal Murray for Diaron Fox? Yeah, I definitely.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
If I'm Cavin Booth, I consider it right because once
you make this move about how the Nuggets are constructed
at this particular point, and this is this may be
fall right in line with having Westbrook being a member
of the team. I've always felt that you can let
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him play the point guard and take the stress off
of Jamal Murray. But the thing is for me, like,
if you're trading Murray, who and what are you getting
back in return? How that's going to impact the roster?
Does that mean that you move MPJA two or you
keep him on the roster, because if you were to
move those two guys, now you have to ask yourself, well,
(02:37):
where's the help coming from for Nicola Yokis, Because one
of the issues the Nuggets have is that it's not just.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Jamal Murray, it is their bitch.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Their bench is a group that gets outscored and so
much so looking at the game tonight, while Nicola Jokis
had to come back in the game with a little
over his seven twenty remaining in.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
The game, being down fifteen exactly just kind.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Of I guess make it look more reasonable at that
particular point. But if you're going to tell me you
want to move Jamal Murray, you got to give me
something that is going to say, Okay, well you're moving
him a guy who does well with Nicola Jokis in
the pick and roll. Okay, Well what other player you're
(03:26):
bringing in that I can do that now? Aaron Fox
hell of a score, three point shooter, something that the
Nuggets have been trying to rebuild on since there's no KCP, Right, So,
I mean, is there more.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
To this story or does it stop just there at Well,
there's Maul Murray, I wanted.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I wanted to move Murray for Buddy Heeled in the
offseason and get some picks and everything else. You know,
with with that situation, that that situation is long since past.
Do we see what Heal is able to do now
when he's in the right system for him. But I mean,
look at this thing. You need to get some new
blooded here.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
There has to. I mean, you look at these and
they see they just look tired. They just look like
a team.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
It's just like, well, you know, we're whatever they're they're
about to be a five hundred basketball team. You know,
you're talking about eleven and nine after today and you're
headed for five hundred basketball And.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That's it's not gonna get. I mean, this team is
not winning anything.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
If you if you look at the rest of the West, right,
you might win an opening round series, but.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
They're not beaten.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
They're not beating a Minnesota, they're not beating a Phoenix,
they're not being a Golden State in a seven game series.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Like this is just not there.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
This is not a team it's constructed to uh to
beat those kinds of teams.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Well, you know, I'm with you with the fact of
saying that the Nuggets forget.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
About it, okayc You're at Houston at this point.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, I mean they need an injection of new blood, right,
And that doesn't.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Necessarily mean that you move Samaul Murray.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
You may need to get more players that make your
second unit that much better to take the pressure off
of those guys, because you're right, they they looked tired.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Absolutely they do.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Think about the run that they've been on over the
past four years. That takes a lot out of you.
How much rest do you think Nicola Jokishi has received,
right or Jamal mrch Just think about after last season
they lost to the Minnesota Timberwolves and both of those
guys represented their country in the Olympic. Now, to Nicola
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Yoki's credit, he looked like the same Jokis who was
in a Nuggets uniform.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Now Jamal playing for Team Canada, it looked a little different, right.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
So I can understand the fact of saying, you know,
those guys being tired, but that is probably weighing on
Jamal the most as far the level of production. But
if you can bring some other guys in here that
can uplift the bench area, maybe that solves your issue.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Maybe that that's the biggest question.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
That's probably where Cavin Booth and Michael Malone needs to
put a lot of their attention and showing up the
bench play.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Oh, I agree with you, and.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I think at the end of the day, you know
you've got to get more out of Watson and Strawther
for sure. You know you haven't really you had that
one game I've got out of sorrys. The rest of
it hasn't really been all that great. Nause. You get
a few minutes here or there, like there's just you're
just not getting quality minutes out of out of anybody.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
But we're us Westbrook Realley.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Well see, for me, they need more two way players
and guys who specialize on the defensive side.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Of the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
But they still can give you rebounds, they can give
you assists. These are hustle guys. If you look at
every single team, no matter the professional sport, you have
those types of guys. Those are your your hustle guys
or whatever. The Nuggets need more of those scrappy type
of well.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
But they put one of those guys in the starting
lineup already, Christma Brown.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
They don't have that off the bench now right, And.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
That affects how productive the bitch can actually be. Now,
I know every player wants to be started, and I
know that CHRISTA. Brown wanted to be a starter in
the lead, but he's best suited the.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Listen, that's no disrespect to him, no, but that that
second unit needs someone to lead them, someone who's going
to give them the edge and added to this person
who could score, and he gives the Nuggets that.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
No, it's not, it's not not. Being a six man
is a specific role in the NBA, and it's not.
It's not a knock on you being the guy who's
able to come in off the bench and put juice
into the lineup. We saw it before, you know, you
Nuggets have seen it before. Keneth Reid, right, Freed was
not the same guy in the starting lineup as he
was coming off the bench.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And some guys don't want to accept that role because
you think it's less said, and I get it, because
you're right. They feel as though it beludle's who and
what they're trying to accomplish in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But there is value to be had.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
There because if you become a great sixth man, to me,
you stay in the league.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Along top standpoint, there was a guy Corlus Williamson who
was a phenomenal six man, you know, juice guy coming
off the bench with that kind of still.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Honestly, Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Wasn't his best when he was coming off the bench
as a six man juice guy, irritant, you know that
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
There are plenty of guys who have been good players
in this league that are absolute studs.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Coming off the bench as a six man type.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Once again, I think that's where the Nuggets really need
to do better. They need to focus on their bench
play and trying to fortify that with guys with some grits,
some attitude. I mean, look, DeAndre jordan is a great story, right,
but he's a raw, raw guy. But you need to
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flip that roster spot in the money that you're paying
him to get a quality guy that actually helps you
win basketball games. Because let's be totally honest, Like, if
Nicola need an actual arrest, could you.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Count on DeAndre Jordans for there's nobody on there you
can count. You can't.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So this is how the Nuggets, in my situation, a
void the craziness that you are talking about in trading
Jamal Murray.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
At this point though, you kind of have to, and
do you have to? I mean, what are you gonna do.
You've got to shake this thing up.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You've got to move those other guys, move some of
those other guys.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, I mean, if you want to move Porter, okay,
well you're gonna find the take that deal. If you
don't have to, what are you getting back for that?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
That's what my problem is, that Lucienbury has some value
in the position that he plays.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Porn is just kind of a guy.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
But once again, because of that, moving Jamal and having
Porter remain on the team, just being a guy that
who is maybe his game is sometime that's the way
to summarize his game. I don't I don't know if
I can't, I can't agree with that because you've got
two guys who are I would say, household names here
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in Denver. Jamal hasn't really in my opinion, taken off
where he's well respected around the league in that way
like a Nicola Yokic. But those two guys work together.
Look how long Utah hell stocked them alone together?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Right, and then they just kept changing the cast around
him just second there for a little Byron Russell or whatever.
But you had to find a tertiary option in here.
And the problem here is that the Nuggets don't have
a primary secondary option. They have Nicola Jokic and other guys,
and sometimes that's Jamal and sometimes that's that's Michael Porter Jr.
Aaron Gordon is a the core is Jokic, and Gordon
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Gordon is the the Chess Peace defensive player, and Jokich
is Jokic. You gotta find shooters, you gotta find two
way players and shoot.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I think they can shoot, all right? What do you
what do you think about a three teams tray where.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Jamal goes to the Miami Heat for a couple of players,
They get a guy like Duncan Robinson or Tyler Herro because.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
They don't think it's enough for I don't think that's
enough for Murray fix back. On top of that or something,
the Miami is willing to give up a future first
round pick. I mean maybe maybe, I mean and I
hear because part of the thing is is death here.
But is either one of those.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Guys like you're not trying to recreate Jamal and the
aggregate Russ is gonna move into the starting position as
a point guard at that point? Are these are Hero
and Robinson really providing you with championship caliber depth?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
If you believe that's the case, then ye.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Cause here, well, I would say more Hero than Duncan
because Hero can shoot, right, and you need three point shooting,
especially looking at the teams in Weston Conference.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Right, I'm with you on that. I'm absolutely with you
on that. I would probably need more than just Hero
and Robinson in a future. First, you know, I think
you have to you said a three team trade. What
are you giving up at all? That you're just giving up?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Jamal? Like, are you giving up? Is there anything beyond
that that you're giving up?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
No? I mean you say Peyton Watson, okay, right, I
mean when you give it up some defense there, I mean,
maybe you gotta give us. You gotta give something to
get something. And right now, the Nuggets don't have what
it takes because Christian Brown needs to be on the
second unit and ready for that role, you know, and
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Zegnagy has been on the team for a couple of
years and he hasn't really stepped off that the bitch
for the Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
So so where does that leave them?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, I'm hesitant to because next year you're gonna get
your draft pick back. You know, you gotta get You
had the draft pick, you had the guy to spell
Jokic and uh and and he got hurt. You're gonna
have him back next year. So I'm hesitant to invest
too much into that portion of it. But you've got
to find the right pieces to put around Yokice to
make another championship. R otherless, you're just wasting this window.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Well, maybe you.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
You take that approach that Michael Malone has. That's a
little different from Calvin Booth because Booth wants some more
younger players because he's thinking depth and futures. But coach Malone,
in my opinion, realize the window for Dakola Jokic, and
he's like, look, we need to go get some vetter
complete pieces that I know that can come in and
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pay play right now, because we already know what they
can do and we're not gonna ask them to do
anything that they can do.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
What we're asking him to do I fit well with
what we're trying to do offensively defensively.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I think in the answerroom that.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Philosophy could work if you're suggesting that the Nuggets are
still in that championship window.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Who's the one player in the league wish list wise
that if you could go get to pair with Yokich,
you would Steph Curry. Well, I mean yeah, okay, Well,
well you asked the question realistically. They quickly Let me
try that again, Let me try that again, Try that again,
let me try that again realistically, because Curry is never ly.
But like, for in second, I'm sitting there with the
Buddy healed thing, right and I'm like, dude, if you
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could pare Buddy heeled and Yoki chup, I swear to
you that thing would would.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Be popping every night? What about Kyrie Irver? I don't
know how that works in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Well what we see we're not talking about the locker like.
I'm sitting there like I'm like, oh no, wait man,
So so you asked me a question, I gave you
two answers, and you kind of shot gun them both down.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'm not a post I'm listening. I'm listening to it.
I'm just saying like, I don't know if that works
in the lock I love it on the court. I
love it on the court. Okay, answers, Lucas, you know
what I was, that's Michael Porter.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Sign me up for that. I've said years ago. Some
people thought, oh, you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Due if you were to put Nikola Jokics together, Oh
my god, oh man, you.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Probably have to give I mean you're talking.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
About you give it up, Murray, you give it up Porter,
you give it up three first rounders, and you're probably
giving up and you probably give it up like Payt Watson.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
On top of that, I might do it because at
that point, who's stopping you in the league. They got
to outscore you. No, made that because you don't have
any pitch. That's what somebody at that point, You know
what you can for negulate where you can get a
couple of players here here and there and just kind
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of make it work. Guys willing to take veteran minimum
deals just to play with those two guys get so
with that.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'm sure you know who who I know would take that,
Chris Paul. Yeah, Chris Paul would definitely take that. Right.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So, yeah, you're gonna pair up CP in Westbrook to
run the point with Luke at the two.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Hey, hey, look as a fring it up to Hey,
just rerunning. We're run we out and running. Well, those
two are running.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Chris Russ Westbrookers sitting back to like they gotta walk
in with tennis ball, try to get down there.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
You don't have to do all the work. Nikole is
gonna set it up. He's gonna feed you. You still
got Aaron going on the team. Who's gonna cut to
the basket. Yeah, Chris Paul is a veteran guy's not
as quick as he used to. He's gonna set everything
else up. He's gonna get to his spot and right this.
At that point, all you had to do is, hey,
share and deliver.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
That's it. Yeah, shareon deliver. I'm wondering, I'm gonna look
this up later and figure out if I could, if
you can make.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
That trade work at Jamalaport, how you can make that
work financially and everything else to make that work, because man,
that would be not the Dallas has ever given up, Luca, No,
But still, you know, I mean, if you want to,
if you want to hit the pipe dream, all right,
there you go.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
But I still like the idea if you could with
the Kyrie Irving, they don't have to get along in
the locker room, not to say that they will not
get along, and Kyrie is just that type of guy.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But just think about it. He can create his own.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Shot, he can get to the basket, he could take
a guy off the dribble.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I mean, he's everything you want in the point guard.
Yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
No, I'm with it, Which brings me back right back
to the darn Fox trade. Would you trade Jamal Murray
for Derek Fox?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I would, of course, but I know Sacramento will not
allow that to.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Happen and save money on that deal. You can, but
it's got to be something else.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I mean, Fun in my opinion, is a hell of
a player because for me, he reminds me of a
better or a more athletic Steph Curry who could play defense.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That's what reminds me of.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Okay, I'm just like, at the end of the day,
that was where I was going with this. I was like, look, financially,
you can make this work. It's not it's not impossible.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
The Kings actually do save a little bit of money
on that. They're going nowhere right now, so you know.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But pipe Dream is Luka Dondre. That's pipe dream. That's Pipeream. Yeah,
I mean this pappen. That's that's really good. Lord.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Uh, well, she's the thing with Luka Doncic, he's one
of the few NBA stars maybe with enough power to
uh where it doesn't matter what the MAVs want, in
the situation where he can maybe force his way out
if if you want.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I don't think it ever happened, but it'd be nice
to dream. Some dare to dream.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
We gotta hit Commercial break Market's CPT to night back
into this texts coming in.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
A lot of a lot of texts about the basketball stuff.
We can get into some of that here in a
little bit, but it's, uh, that's.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Fascinating, Stacy for you to says he's taking his lunch
break is vapor and listening.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
To b CT.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Okay, you gotta Stacey, you gotta tell the you gotta
tell your boss. That's been all bright Nick Ferguson are
saying that you should be allowed to text whatever you
want into this show. That's like, if he has any
problems with that, he can go see Nick Ferguson directly.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, you can come see me directly.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
But Ben has already stated to me off air that
he's willing to compensate you, uh well for your losses.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
No, no, I did not did not say that. I
did not. It was you call me to just say
I feel like that is a fifth sir.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Wow, oh you compensated. I mean just when you think
you know people. We'll send him some care kicks. Oh
it makes sure his freeze dry too. Yeah, yeah, we'll
make up. We'll put it, put some dry ice in there.
So appreciation. Listen to Stacy. Yeah, we appreciate it. We
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have so we appreciate all our listeners. And I hope
you guys are having a great holiday season thus far.
Five six six nine ers text line.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
By the way, December fifteenth ten days now, KOA celebrating
eight huge anniversary. December fifteenth will be the one hundred
year anniversary of KOA flipping on the switch one number.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Fifteenth, nineteen twenty four. Are think it gonna be any
gifts because as an anniversary this in.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Kate, I don't know if we're doing all that around here,
and we might talk to Dave Tepper about that.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
We have a football game going on that day obviously,
on December fifteenth, that's the Colts game.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Probably the biggest game in Denver. Big is the brocktball
game in Denver.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
It s'ds the run to the super Bowl because if
you win this win, you're pretty much in the playoffs.
You win that game, it's it. It's not a lock,
but it would take a lot of scenarios, plus you're
losing out.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
To do so. You lose.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You lose that game to the Colts, though, and now
you're only one game ahead of the Colts. They own
the tiebreaker and they're playing Tennessee, Jacksonville the New York
Giants to finish out the season, while we got to
take on the Chargers, Bengals and Chiefs. Or you gotta
give you this touf an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Need to win that game. Yes, gotta win that game.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
That's that's I mean, you're not eliminated that points, but
it's one of those ones that she makes a dramatic
difference in your playoff.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Can't we safely say that every game from here on
out is a knee to want you. If you win
the Colts game, you can almost lose out and still
make the playoffs when no one's trying to do that.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
But I'm trying to for losing out things happen.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
If you win that Coult game, you could probably still
lose out and make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
The whole idea is to win every seat, to win
every game.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I'm just saying, if disaster happens, why are you always
with the escape hast the saying if it happens, if.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
You win that Colts game, you got all the padding
in the world. You know what, they say it was
a fifth.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I've never heard that. You never heard was a fifth?
You've never ever heard this one?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Because saying you made this song, I don't know as
the text line if I was a fifth?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
You ever heard this before? Zactually here, they're young. You
know what the you know what you as a pulse
of the kids.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
He might not have heard old school? Well it's too
old school for his generation. Okay, have you ever heard
the if if was a fifth? I've never heard that.
Really puzzitive.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It sounds like a page from a doctor SEUs bu
okay during the break.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Exactly. I think.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Just because it rhymes doesn't mean that it's a nursery rhyme.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I mean, yes, they being the people who I.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Grew up around, right, they would always the sentence green
exenham no if was a fifth, like, we would all
be tore up, right like, I mean, yes, I'm giving
you the PC version.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yes, so now you shot in your head like the
no no like? So now does it resonate with you?
Have you heard it before?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
It resonates with me? I still haven't heard it before.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Anybody like if anybody else textually five six six cines
or if you ever heard of if was a fifth?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Because I if was a fifth, we will all be
tore up right now. But obviously there there was some inflatives,
right I'm looking up what you now now?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
But e literally I thought this was like some kind
of like, I'm like, what are you talking about right now?
Actually thought it was some doctor Sue's nursery rhyme. Well,
I mean, yeah, a green agent Ham. But I'm gonna
to break the last time. Yes, I'm gonna ask Tony manus.
I'm gonna ask they temperthday, Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Okay, in all fairness, they may not know if they
do good on them, but the.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Text line is not responding. We'll find out.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
We'll find if anybody has heard this expression before. I
feel like the whitest guy alive right now, because I
have not heard this.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well, you know what, maybe it was the only saying
around the people in the group that I grew up there.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Maybe it was a Florida colloquial thing.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I never heard it.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Okay, well it could It could be a Florida Miami
type thing. It could be.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Bill texts in and says, I'm sixty two. I've never
heard this.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
He's never he's never heard it. They maybe new school
for Bill.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Maybe it falls in that middle generation between the years
the Bill.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Maybe it's kind of demographic type of thing. You know.
Maybe I don't know. I don't know. Manle we go
back to the wash fluff here, mraphics. I'm just saying,
was he a singer? Were you here for that? Are
you here for the wash fluffing? I was not here
for the wash cloths? Singers?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Does it?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Singers? Looks like he's not a wash Do you use
the golf or do you use a wash cloth?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I don't use a watch.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, I told you, he looks like he's not an
right down demographics. See there it is so so some
of these things kind of goes back to where you
were born from an area.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
But it could be from a demographic stamps too.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Oh, I have not heard of this. Three two three,
I've not heard of this. Wow, we're gonna find this out.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
We're gonna we're gonna get the pulse of people here.
Look how far out of touch I am on this one.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'm sure if I call Clinton porters right now, he
would be able to complete that phrase.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
We need to do that. That's what we need to do.
You know what we're gonna do. I'm gonna put together
a bit. That's what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
What if you randomly call former teammates and you're just
gonna say that and see what they respond with, and
then we'll pull clips together and then we'll we'll put
it on the air.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
We might have the pre recorder because I can't. We're
not gonna do what.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I did not know you here now.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
We're not doing that live response before call Cole calling
someone and hit the red buzzy.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
We're doing. We'll do like a man on the street
pre recording package.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
We'll figure out exactly how many and we'll go around
the locker.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Room do it, just asking how many? Yeah, I mean
if it was a fifth and did you see what
they hold them? What they said? I bet you.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I mean, guys in the Broncos locker room, even though
they are probably around Zach Seger's age.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
They would know what that means. We'll find out.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
That people come to Broncos country.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I'd like you let's see. I'm just I'm just saying,
Zack scene is a steel stone.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Like I haven't never heard of it. That's from Dave.
I'm up in the Midwest, live in Arizona, Colorado. Never
heard of it. Oh, so I would like when people
text in tell us.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Where the seven two l says it's a twenty ten
song by a little fat and someone.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
So somebody's on your side.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Ferguson, Oh, this may be a rocky mountain high Midwest
thing where people just don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I mean, I'm not like, I'm not a rocky mountain
like I came out here with Teddy. I mean just
been twelve years now Arkansas. But I didn't come here
from Marcus.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I came here from Tampa, Okay, Okay, Tampa by way
of Arkansas, by.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Way of almost everywhere from Arkansas when I was in
high school and after.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Come on, man, somebody's there's someone out there right now
driving who has heard the saying before if if was
a fifth, we would all be tore up right now,
because you know what a fifth is?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, first of all, is that do you know what if? Yeah,
I know what a fifth is?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Okay, are you sure you're old enough to know what
a fifth is?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I'm not bad there is. You don't have a face
to face I could say that.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh my god, Well I do agree with demographics can
cause this. I've heard different things called different things in
all kinds of places. Here we have a garage, but
in Iowa they call it. They call it a carstall.
I'm sorry, yeah, they call it. They don't call a garage.
They call it a car stall. Apparently. I know in
the UK they call it a garage. The garage is
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a garage that they pronounced it. I'll call my buddy
Paul Brown will find out the garage. They don't have
that any garages in the UK.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Everybody, just like.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Here, we call it's an apartment. They call it the
flip flat.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
We call it the trunk. They call it the boot.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yes, so do they say that's the boot? Say no, no, No,
boot is what they put on your car. You don't
pay your tickets?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, or Canada.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, the Canada boot is about is about. Just pronounce
it differently, by the way. So to clarify that he's
not on your side, he simply googled it. But to
your credit, if he googled it and on the internet,
it's on the so it must be true.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, that's what I've been told. If it's on the Internet,
it must be true. It has to be true.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Both nickshun Offensive Rookie of the Week three times out
of four and brock Bowers gets Offensive Rookie of the month.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Make that math math for me there, Nick Ferguson, Well,
the math is not mathing.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
But in all sincerity, brock Bauers has definitely balled out
and that draft sad is being drafted right after Bob
Nicks at thirteen going to the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
It's showing because he is.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
A force to be reckoned when he was one of
those guys that I was hoping by chance that the
Broncos would have have the ability to take to add
to a guy like Bob Nick. Sure well whomever or
the quarterback was that they selected. But that's something that
it could confuse me too, as well as far as
being I guess offensive Player.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Of the Month.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I don't know how what number is, what metrics they
use to come up with that, I don't know. If
they say, well, you know what, bows won a couple
of awards during the week, you know, let's give it.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
To someone else.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, but if you win three of them in a month,
you figure you would be the Player of the month.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Well, once again, that means that you are expecting those
who are coming to these calculations to be smart enough
to go. You know what, I think this guy should
get it because he's won already three times and to
give a month so I'm not gonna give those intoos.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Are you telling me that the voters have voter fatigue
and voting for votix?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
What else?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
What else could be the reason as to why, because
it tell me doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
It doesn't make sense to me. By yes, two get
defensive Player of the Month.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
That sort of makes sense, although I think I would
have given it to his teammate in Panino, not that
I'm complaining there. There's a lot of hardware the Moroncos
are pulling in with these of the Week of the
month awards.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
They're a young team.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
We talk about this a lot Bronco's third youngest team
in the NFL. Can that kind of stuff become a
distraction for a young team?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
No, no, no, it's not because it all goes back
to the leadership in the locker room and the coaching staff.
It is the fact that you acknowledge and you validate
the players for the accomplishments and the recognition they received.
But you tell them that's not the hardware that means
the most.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Right, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And if you ask any guy, one of those guys
in that locker room, they would be willing to give
up any kind of monthly or weekly accolades for the
one that matters the most, and that's a Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Right, You would give that up because you had toque
or a trophy or ring. Right.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
And once again, it depends on who you're talking to,
it might be a little different, right. But but for me,
it's thank you for the season awards, but I want
the postseason award because it is in the postseason that
you become legendary. Everything that happens during the season we
remember vaguely, but we always remember what the teams did
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in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
You'll remember me for centuries is that what you're saying,
only if there's a dub behind your name, if you
got a hell.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I'm quoting, Wow, I got two ls in my last
I'm sitting here trying to quote song lyrics. I look,
I agree with you. You want, obviously, the Lobardi, you want,
the races, you want, all that kind of stuff. I
worry was that, all of a sudden, this team is
experiencing success for the first time in a long time.
You got guys that are starting to pilot plaques week
after week, and I just wonder if any of that
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stuff starts to become a little bit of a distraction
to those guys.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Well, it all depends on who the guy.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Is, especially if they're young players like that. PS two
has been here before. Yeah, he's been a probos so
he knows okay whatever. And also he's played at Alabama,
so he's no stranger to the absolation from the outside
and people uplifting him and talking about how great he is.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Right, That's that's a guy I don't worry about.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
But if you get a guy who no one's really
talked about that much and he hasn't received a lot
of praise, that guy, I would worry about now, Like
if anyone is worrying about bot Nicks, you shouldn't because
you said, he's won this award three times already. Yeah,
and I haven't seen a significant change that would suggest
that he's going south.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
No, I wouldn't either, Like I just you know, kind
of in the back of my head, like this is
a young football team. You start to you start to
get some of that, and you start to feel yourself sometimes, you.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Know, you start to get it. You start to get
a little recognition. Sometimes you start to feel yourself.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Well, and listen, Ben, it's okay to feel yourself sometimes,
to understand that this is where you started, this is
where you are, this is where you're getting to. And
having recognition by voters or people around the league talking
about certain players, you hope that it inspires your younger
roster to say, you know what, Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I go to work every single day with Ben.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I put on my shoes, my pants one leg at
a time, just like bitch.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
When I put it on, putting my pants on, I
make gold records. And what that cow bell, I tell you,
cow Bell, it's a terrible walking.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Hey, listen.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
If that is something that getting the players going, hey,
so be it, so be it.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Oh, I you know I'm all for Like I never
I was never one of those guys that cared about
that kind of stuff, Like I wanted the award because
I wanted to win something like I wanted to win everything,
but I didn't really care, you know, like, uh, that
was one of the things. So that the Color broadcast,
just like we won the Evening show it. I think
the plaque is still over there on Chris Donaldson's desk,
like we never even bothered to pick it up. We
just won the thing and we're like, cool, we got it.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Boom again.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
It just goes back to you who you are as
an individual. What's your overall goal?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
What's the wit everything?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, I want I want to win the commercial breaks, Yes,
I want to win everything competitive like that.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You want to win the commercial breaks.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Now that's different to win the bye week I want
with the commercial bro I would win it all.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I'll be going to bed tonight. I'm gonna win sleeping.
Is that equivalent to winning the off season? I would
to win that too. Off season?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
When I brushed my teeth, I'm gonna win brush my teeth.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I am competitive things so that the hygiene trophy of
the year a war, I mean, is there one? Because
I'm gonna win that too. No, you're not gonna win that.
We gotta a commercial break. But to the seekers, mic
off after that Broncos country tonight, after
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