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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nine zero is the text line, and uh, Bolden Green
stand out linebacker Gideon Lampron is going to answer to
the transfer portal. And for those of you looking at
me quizically right now, are looking ready like why do
I care about this guy?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's not him or his play, which has actually been good.
Uh that I want to comment on real quick. It's
in his middle name in all caps is ESPN. I'm
dead serious, he got his middle name.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
What's his name? Gideon Lampron? Gideon Espn Lambron.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Uh with his dad, Marty Lampron knuck it onto his
son's birth certificate while his wife Jennifer was recovering from
giving birth.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I bet that one over great. It's legal. Middle name
is ESPN all caps.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
No, what are we doing here, dude, There's no way
Mom allowed that to count of certificates. It choice, yes,
But at at some point, once you realizes that it's
on there, you can actually change it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
You can.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
But at that point, linebacker and range Ohio, the real name,
all right, I promise you?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Gideon Espn Lambage?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Let me ask, let me ask this question. What's the
ethnic background of this individual?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I mean, I mean you would think. But then the
Gideon if you kind of go this is like when SHAKEE.
Gillis was on the SNL. You're guessing the arrests or whatever.
I'm like, you know, at the first you're like, Okay, no,
white white people aren't funny enough to do this.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
But then you wait minute. The first name is Gideon.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
By the way, it was going to be my first
name before my mom vetoed.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Look, there's all kinds of names that take place in
the hood. So that's what I had to ask, Right,
how did pop get get.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So, you know, just so you know, just guessing he's
got the answer. He doesn't have photo we we whit
take it on the chin on this way. So so
so go into the D n V. Right, you know
how it asked you first?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
But your middle middle initial put the E or do
your WI you gotta By the way, officially the name
is all caps too. It's all capital letters. There's no
lowercase letters, all caps.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Es is going excuse me, uh, who do you have
any Do you have any other form of I D?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Is this a joke? E?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Spnamron He was all back second team, by the way,
so it's not like he's a bad you know he's
a player. He's not he's bad play. He's hitting the
transfer portal. So if you, uh, if you ever wanted
on your your team, now you can uh go ahead
and get.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Kidd of dad. Don't know how mom still allowed that
to filter it through.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, and this dude one looks like his name should
be Chase Smith, you know, like he he.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Looks like he would tell you that his dad's going
to sue you. My dad's a lawyer, and I'm going
to sue you if you teach me.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Oh, this guy absolutely puts mayonnaise on everything he puts.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Could just imagine like like what was his first day
of school, like when he was like, I don't know,
in the sixth grade.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, it's like a middle name.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Though, so you know you don't have a chance to Okay,
those we play a little game right now. How many
of the three let's know each other's middle names?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I don't know a single one? Are you? I mean,
you guys probably know mine' that's available. I don't know.
And I don't know what you're I don't know what
your middle name is.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I don't know either it's an I give you my
initiatives A that's all you go.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
For MEBC ABC, the parent company.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh man, Nicholas, my wife wa tross.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
My wife would have wrung my neck if I did
like that on the on the birth certificate. How do
you think that is okay? But what if you named
a Bravo? Would she still be mad? Bravo? Yeah? Or Network?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
My wife would have been salty. My wife would have
been salty as hell?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
What are you doing to our son?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I just I just finally we can call attention to this.
That's Zachary hbo seekers over there.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Listen, man, look, I know some people in the hood,
like they combine first name and last name that the
Paros name or Arangelo or something.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Like that, like what is that orange jello?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
We've certainly seen the African American community come away with
some creative marriage before Oldest Crawford. I mean, you know Koolaid,
mckinstre and.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Right now, man, come on, man, now you can get
a nickname that has nothing to do with the food item,
but just because a parent just looked at you in
a certain way.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But kool Ai, come on, man, kool Aid if he
came out going, oh yeah, the doctor's standing there waiting
to kid.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Aside the whole time you bust out the birket Oh yeah, honey,
stick with me on this.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh KOOLI Hey when he gets to the league. Oh,
that's going to hit.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I know we were he I know we were favoring Derek. Yes,
what about koolid?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What about kool aid?
Speaker 6 (05:39):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Think about what? Hey telling your wife?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Think about the endorsements, right, you gotta take big picture.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Meanwhile, she's looking at you like you got two hairs.
So you're a new fool. I'm just saying, none of
us know each other, but test to say the middle names,
like none of us know each other's middle names. Like
my middle name is Bryce. None of us know each
other's middle names Bryce, Alexander. There you go, all right,
what's your min name? Alexander? Interesting? You both have a's
and I'm a b. That's why they call me the great. Yeah,
(06:10):
you just start doing that, Zach someone the name you
can't create yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I forgot to tell you you weren't here. Grant was
in here, and somebody on the text line thinks you
are an absolute, thinks you're a stud, and they started
calling you snacks seekers. I'm just telling you concerning concern
after the Steve Hernson shokes, somebody on the text line
started calling you that.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Snack seekers is he in tonight? So I was like, oh,
my name, at least.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
At least it's that way and not like Snacks Harrison
where it was very large.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Man, That's what I got, the snacks nickname.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And I'm wondering, Zach, are you going to tell you know,
Mario over Tansey or b Messes that someone calls you Snacks.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You gotta tell you that.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I mean, you have to one hundred percent lord that
over him. Yeah, that's gonna be a Fifth A Endment
issue for me, for sure. I'm gonna blasted on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, if you're not gonna put it out?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Did I say I wasn't gonna tell them? I met?
I was, Yeah, tell them that show is gonna go
for Let's talk Broncos and let's talk nicknames.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yes, are the Broncos catching the Packers at the right time.
The Packers got the pretty pretty hefty injury report. Broncos
getting healthy here Powers maybe probably not back this week,
but maybe Adkins looks like he's back with the Broncos,
weaving Marcedes Lewis today.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Uh, Pat Wright will be out for the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I'll just I know I reported that yesterday, but I'll
do it again for those who aren'tay attention. Pat Wright
will be out for the Broncos for this game. But overall,
Broncos fairly healthy. You look at the Packers and they've
got a lot of lingering issues. Now they are getting
healthy in some ways, and this is certainly gonna be
the most speed they've played on offense. But are we
catching him at the at the right time because of
the injury stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, and that's one thing that you can never prepare
yourself for and not always attested this teams that end
up playing in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Not to take anything away from.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Them coaching wise and playing wise, but it's mostly the
teams that are the healthiest. And the fact that when
you think about Josh Jacobs, who has had the Broncos
number from a defensive standpoint for for some years, so
he's been dealing with some swilling and is his knee right.
(08:25):
So it's up in the air whether he's going to
play on Sunday or not. But if he doesn't, Emmanuel
Wilson can definitely come in six feet two hundred and
twenty six pounds.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, he's got some side, he's got some.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Size, and he's coming downhill. But yeah, you know what,
this is the thing with the long season. This is
why you know the.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
League is eventually gonna get to eighteen games. Let's just
call it what it is.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And this is why when we get to this half
of the season, once the league finally moves to eighteen games,
it's going to affect a lot and a lot of
teams that started off the season that idea that they
were going to be in a super Bowl. We want
to see a lot of those things change because of injuries.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, and it's you know, we talked about the backup quarterbacks.
You already need five quarters to play out of a
backup quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Most teams too. On average.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Out of the season, you're probably going to get to
the point where you need five running backs and two
quarterbacks to make it through a season.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
If you've got an eighteen game season, they just to
wear and tear on the body.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Well, I don't think then it goes far than just
having five or six running backs.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So you have to have five or six quality running backs.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
That's for a second, you'd have five guys that you
can you know, and I'm not talking about the Burger
franchise that can go down there and play well, well, well.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You know what, I'll tell you what with my years
here with the Denver Broncos, that's essentially was kind.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Of the mo of Mike Senahan.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
That's why when someone a one running back went down,
it was like we go plug and playing, sit them
in there.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
But they also had the eye for talent in the
scheme to fit to me, because if matter it was
Run Browns or Mike Anderson, or Orlandis Garrier, tell Quinton
Griffith or Tatum, they just kept going and it was
just like these guys are just they aren't even real
names anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
We're just finding guys, finding guy. Can you run? Can
you count the four?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Do you know whether you know eighteen? Boss toss?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Can you run that with you? Okay, now you take
six steps of cut. Yes, yes, yes, yes it was.
It was that type of thing. But yes, you're.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Going to really need that.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
But it only emphasizes the importance of the run game.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And I can tell you this with one certainty. The
run game is.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Something that Matt Lafleur values because that's how he was taught.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
They build off that right with the run game, and
they run a lot on first down. They're one of
the heaviest under center teams on first down. They're one
of the heaviest run teams on first down. They're one
of the heaviest motion teams on first down. They are
absolutely they build off the run. I mean, everybody knows
Jordan Love for the passing, they know those receivers.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But the reality is Green Bay builds off the run
at your point.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, and you can't be off the Mike Shanahan tree
without that being a stateple. I know we've been joking
about ABC and D, but if you had a more choice,
tests is.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Like, what's the first thing you do offensively?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Run the ball, run the ball, run the ball, and
of course on the above run.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
The damn ball.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yes, he run the ball, store and like like. And
they've been effective with that. I mean that that's that
that offense, he is quite effective. They are very good
at what they do. This is gonna be an interesting
game because the Packers have a lot of speed on
the outside that I don't know if the Broncos have
seen uh this much this year, I wonder, I mean,
they've played talented receivers. Obviously you've seen what now Jake
(11:31):
Browning was still on the ball, but they played talented receivers.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Then, you know, it's different having Higgins and Chase Polls
and having you know, Brownie being the quarterback opposed to
having Jordan Love be your quarterback. And you got Watson, Dobbs,
Reeves and mencis Wick, Smelton, Matc Golden.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
They got a lot of speed on the outside.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And we are a man team and Jordan Love is
at his best going against man.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
And what happens with you playing a defense that's playing
man and you just so happen lose contained.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, there's nobody back there to you know, if you're
a corner there, this is rid of Moss and you
know it, pats Er Tan, there's nobody back there to
help you in this one.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
This is gonna be you know, you're on your own.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
And I hope that Sir Tan gets lined up on
Watson because Watson's the exact kind of guy Moss is
struggle with six four two eight. Yeah, it's and a
law to chew up the yardage with every with every
step Watson, those big physical guys are the ones that
Moss struggles. Moss plays really well against He's played well
against fast guys, whatever. It's just those big guys, those
big guys, big athletic guys that he struggled with a
(12:38):
little bit at times.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You know, the George Pickens type. So just the hyper athletic,
big dudes that play that position.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
So I think you're gonna want to try to get
find ways to get Watson on cirtan uh and let
and hope that you end up with Moss on.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
What you do if you're an offensive coordinator is really simple,
Like like a guy that you want to feature, get
one of the Broncos anyone else, and the same go
for Sean Payton and the Broncos offense. Do you take
your marquee guy and you get him off the ball?
I mean what you think about when Kyle Shenihan was
Matt Ryan and with the Falcons, Julio Jones, big wide
(13:14):
receiver right, just like Watson, but they moved him around,
they got him off the ball. So to create a
match of a mismatch where you can't really get your
hands on him if you're playing man coverage, and you'll
see some of that.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
They've got Jayden Reid coming out of the slot. That's
a lot of speed too. You got that gold that
comes on at speed on Terry Wicks that speed. They've
got speed on the outside and I cannot stress that
off the Broncos fans.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
This is going to be the toughest test this defense
is faced here.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
So with that said, what defensive scheme if you're Vance
Joseph to account for all of these speedy wide receivers
and keep them in front of you, what defense would
you call?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well, you got two. You got two philosophies here, two
schools of thought. Basically, one is you get enough pressure
that there's no deep developing stuff that you play your
corners off and you get enough pressure there that you
can't that they can't get by you.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Right, that's that's gonna happen, but it's not gonna happen
as consistently.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So where do you go?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
The other option is something that's antithetical to what Vance
Joseph does, which is too deep man under and then
and that you've got to help over the top if
if you need it. But that takes Ufaga and Jones
out of their strengths being down there interchangeably in the.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Box and giving you different looks.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
So once again, this defense is going to be pressed
with not just being having great communication at home, being
on the same page, having the guys in the secondary
all seen the same thing, which I can tell you
can be problematic at times. And if you go and
you play too deep, guess what bes too deep? Four verts? Yeah, right,
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So the players would have to understand when you are
in too deep, too deep safeties high, and you get
four verticals, four gods screaming down the field, your zone
now turns into man coverage.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's a pick them, yes you say, it becomes a
pick them at that point for you.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So that that that you know there are different problems.
Speed creates problems, and the Packers a lot of problem.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Packers have a lot of speed, and that's that's one
of those things whereas you look at this game coming up,
this is why I think this is going to be
the toughest test for the Denver Broncos defense so far
this year.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
They play good offenses.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I mean obviously Pat Mahomes can't say is they played
you know, the Cowboys and Bengalo that kind of So
they play good offenses. This is going to be the
toughest test for the defensively because there's just so much speed.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Also too, if you if you play cover two too much,
what you basically do you're.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Daring the team to run the ball, right.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, so you have to be great in tackling in
open space and your safeties have to be your extra defenders.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And run support. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I think you're going to see a lot of single
high looks on early downs and then when you get
to late downs and you'll have some rotations back into
those late down That's that's great. Green Bay is good
and third downs they are They're they're good. They're good
football team. I don't want a short change screen bad
at all. And you know they're a good football team.
They despite the record, isn't quite as good as I
think they are. They have some defensive you know, adjustments
here there. See they lost craft all of the offense
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has gotten better since Crafts has been out.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Well, this is why I feel as though like you're
saying that this is a challenge for the Denver Broncos
on paper statistically, and that's why getting this win would
would be great for so many different reasons. It keeps
you in a hunt for their first round buy. But
it puts that Raiders game in the rearview mirror as
you look forward to Jacksonville the Chargers and that game
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on Christmas, which I don't care where the Chiefs are
at that point out of the playoffs. I still think
that there's still a dangerous team on that Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
They love to spoil it for the Broncos on Christmas
Day and take that gift back we cut back.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
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Speaker 2 (16:53):
Hotline and bring on our guy, Henry Chisholm from d
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Speaker 1 (16:56):
No word on if Henry's middle name is d MVR
in all caps, but we'll find that out for you.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Henry, how you doing this evening? Good?
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Unfortunately that's not my middle name. Middle name's Richard. We
do as our producer for the show is named Dion.
I started calling him dion VR, but that's.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
About as close as we get.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Okay, Yeah, we just didn't know if we had much
like the linebacker from Bolden Green was, you know, the
ESPN middle name. We were trying to try to see
if anybody else No, no dice there think and I
were head headed to break. We were talking about how
the Packers might be the biggest test for the Broncos
so far this season.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
A lot of speed on the outside.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I know the Broncos have played a few good offenses,
but they I don't think they've played anybody with this
much speed on the outside. What say you about this matchup?
Speaker 8 (17:38):
No, I think that that's probably the case. The speed
in particular, you know, the Bengals receivers are incredible. It's
just a little bit different game when you're playing at
Jake Browning versus Joe Burrow, Like the receivers for the
Cowboys are phenomenal.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
But yeah, it's not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
The speed that stands out. I think i'd agree.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
That this has to be the fastest group that the
Broncos are going up against.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Well, we look at the fact of the run game,
and the Broncos were able to establish some semblance of
a run game last week RB against the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
What do you think or how do you.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Think that that run game is going to shape up
against Jeff Hafley in that package defense to suit this week.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You know, I'm curious.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
It's been a lot of fun to watch r J
Harvey throughout the season.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Of course, when JK.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
Dobbins is here, you know that he's going to get
the majority of the carries between the tackles, which leads
RJ to take a bunch of the receiving role. And
so when you see him catch a ball in the backfield,
I think he's still second in the NFL among rookie
running backs and receiving yards. You know, he kind of
found that niche and he was able to break some
big plays off and be a contributor to the offense.
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But throughout the season, he just never really was able
to find his footing as a runner until this week
against the Raiders, And so I'm curious he seems more
confident just being around him.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
A little bit. He seems more comfortable in that role.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
But yeah, I mean, like you said, this is a
tough defense specifically to run against, and it's certainly more
of a test.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
It is nice, though, I think, just to.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
Have that Raider game in your mind if you're a
rookie running.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Back, knowing that at least this is possible, knowing what it.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
Feels like to get seventeen carries and be productive with them.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
I think that confidence is going to be important.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I think this week absolutely talk with Henry Chisholm from
dmv R.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Henry, we know Pat Bryant's going to be out for
the game this Sunday. You know, I think Nick and
I both hope that that means we'll see a lot
more of our most explosive player in Marvin Mims. But
I personally don't trust it, as I know that Sean
Bayden has never met the play. He doesn't want to
dial up for a little Jordan Humphrey. As we as
we start to look at this thing this weekend, who
(19:45):
do you want to see more of Mims? Elijah more
you see more Troy frankl or Humphrey. Who do you
want to see more of in that?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
In his stead?
Speaker 8 (19:53):
I take it it's Marvin's turn.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I think you got to get him more involved.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
We've kind of seen the ebbs and flows for all
those guys. Troy Franklin for a month there was looking
like a very good receiver for the Broncos, and he
kind of fades out and you see flashes from other guys.
I was talking to Marvin yesterday, and one of the
things that he said was, you know, he's not too
worried about the opportunities he gets, you know, because he
gets to return the kicks, return the punts. He has
(20:19):
a way to contribute. And on top of that, he
believes every time he's gotten an opportunity that he's basically
taken advantage of it. And when you have that thought
in your mind, it's a lot easier to say, hey,
I've proven myself. They'll call on me when they need me,
and when my time comes, I don't need to try
to do too much because I've made big plays, or
(20:40):
I think his words were, I've made remarkable plays for
this team before.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I do think that it is his turn.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
I think that, especially with Pat Bryan out, it just
makes it so easy.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
To say, hey, we've got to get Marvin more involved.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
And we saw what he did in December last year
when he was one of the NFL's most productive receivers.
And I think a lot of us that by this
time this year we would have seen that carry over
a bit.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
We would have at least had you know, a month
a month.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Long stretch like that at some point. But the fact
that we haven't, the fact that he's.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Coming off that punt return touchdown.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
I think that this is I think that this is
kind of his time to shine.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Oh, we think.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
About where the Broncos currently sit right now as far
as the set count, they sit at fifty five sacks.
So I'm going to give you an opportunity to predict
that are over under on sacks for the Broncos on
Sunday against Joe Love and the Packers.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
That's uh, you know, I'll say give me five.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I think it's a big game.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
Yeah, we were talking key to the game earlier this morning.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
My key was the pass rush depth.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
I think that's what's kind of been missing as we've
seen the Broncos defense. I don't want to say perform poorly,
but maybe have a couple of lapses over the past
few weeks where we expect them to be a little
bit more dominant than they've been.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I think a lot of that is not having Jonah Ellis.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
I think that in the past when they've taken.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
Nick Benito and Jonathan Cooper off the field, they didn't
see much drop off because of that depth. But you
lose one piece of that depth things change. Getting Jonah
back on the field last week, I think is big.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
I think that adding him means that we can kind.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Of get back to this dominant rush that we saw
especially early in the season. So I'll say I'll stick
to my guns and say I think I think they
get five I think they get to Jordan Love five times.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Tyler henry ch is home from d NVR.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You know, we're still in the middle of a season, obviously,
and there's a lot to go. It's just that the
Broncos are going to make the playoffs it looks like,
and hopefully have a little bit of a run. But
as we look at this team as constructed, are there
any pieces you feel like are missing?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
And what would you like to see the Broncos go
after this offseason?
Speaker 8 (22:49):
I think, to me, it's still running back. You know,
we saw what the Broncos look like when they have
a productive running back. That's when they felt fairly dominant
when JK. Dobb there was leading the charge. He's one
of the five most productive running.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Backs in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
But you know, as much as I hope to see R. J.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
Harvey take a step forward, and I think that he's
capable of it. The truth is, in the modern NFL,
you need two running backs. And so even if you
do look at R. J. Harvey at the end of
the year and say, hey, we like what we see,
we like what we got for our second round pick,
I think you still need to add another piece. And
you know, I wouldn't call it a glaring need.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I don't think the Broncos have one of those.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
But just given the depth across the team, I don't
really have anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That I think I would point to. We've we watched him.
Evan England kind of methodically.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Kind of build up his stats over the season, obviously
the biggest games against Washington Commanders. Do you think he
could be in for a big pass catching game against
the Packers?
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Against the Packers, it's tricky. So you brought up the
game against the Commanders.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So by far his best game of the season.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
Then what the Broncos did there was spread that defense out.
They really found ways to force linebackers to cover Evan
Ingram and because of that.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
They were able to produce or he was able to produce.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
I think that the game plan against the Packers is
more similar to the game plan against the Raiders than
it is to the game plan against the Commanders, and
by that I mean running the football using heavy personnel,
a lot of Little dur and Humphrey, a lot of
Nate Adkins who hopefully will be back.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
That to me is the route that I.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
See this going.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
I do think though, that when you look back at
playoffs football recently, tight ends have just been so important.
You know, the Eagles win the Super Bowl last year,
their leading receiver wasn't a J. Brown, it wasn't Devonte Smith, it.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Was Dallas Goddard.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
And you can kind of go back through the history
of all these playoff runs. Obviously, guys like Travis Kelcey
and Rob Gronkowski of skew things toward tight ends, but
the production of tight.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Ends in the postseason and even late in the season in.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
General has been huge in determining.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Who winds up winning. And I think.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
Eventually you need to see more from Evan Ingram. I'm
just not sure if this is the week to where
the game plan fits.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Talk with Henry Chisholm from d NBR, I wanted to
shift gears a little bit here and talk about the
state of football in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I guess as a whole.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
You got to see us brings in Brendon Marion for
the go go offense.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
You got Jim Mora now at CSU.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Is are we getting a football renaissance in the state
of Colorado?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I hope so you know. I'm a Montana guy.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Went to University of Montana Sacramento State, watched a lot
of their games where Brendan Marion was.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
The head coach.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
This year, I will say Montana head coach Bobby Hawk
might have been onto something when he called the Montana
defense the no no defense.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
After beating Sacramento State. I mean, the point is that Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
State offense was a lot of fun to watch. I'm
curious to see what he does.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
The creative run game was so interesting there.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
There's so much misdirection.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
The quarterback there didn't put up big passing numbers all
that efficient, but that's because he was a big guy
who was able to run a lot and you know,
put his shoulder down into guys and open everything up
in the run game. With all the different quirky read
options and all the things that they get up.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
There, I'm curious what that looks.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Like with a guy like Juju Lewis at.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
Quarterback, who I'd imagine will still be the starter next
year for Colorado, though nothing's ever guarantee. A very mobile guy,
but a guy who can make a couple more plays
of his arm. Do you really want him putting his
shoulder down? And if that's the case, how does it
kind of change the way the run game plays out
because the quarterback run was so important with what Brendan
Mary was doing. But you know, I think he's been awesome.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'm curious to see Jim Moore.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Of course, Broncos are.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
They've said like they are Super Bowl contenders again.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Renaissance.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
I'm all in.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I just you know, as you're looking at this, I'm like, well,
it's just, you know, we we're kind of having an
era here, or looks to be having an era here
where there's a lot of quality football going on.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And certainly appreciate it. We appreciate your time today, Henry
as well. Afford to catching you down.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
There and seeing the Broncos take on the Packers and
hopefully get that W this weekend.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Yeah, they've got they've got a puncher chance.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
At least you've got the Sportswoks.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Don't believe yeah, well, you know who cares what they think? Well,
we'll just keep cashing tickets. Henachism from d NVR. Appreciate
the time, buddy, thank you.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
You know he thinks he seems to agree a lot
of speed out of the Packers and this could present
a problem for this Broncos man defense.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
But this is the right time to be exposed to that.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
You want to figure out going into the latter half
of the season what you can and what you can't do.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And when you look at the.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Broncos from a second every standpoint, they have the guys
to play both man and zone.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Now what it comes down to, and I tell with
this all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Now you say, okay, but I'll ask you which one
do you think is tougher?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Man is Zone?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
And why I think Man is tougher simply because it
requires more, especially if you are in it constantly. It
requires more out of you physically in terms of running.
So there's more from a stamina perspective.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
And then there's no there's no forgiveness in man, like
if you make a mistake, somebody double, there's nobody back.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
There to help you.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
In zone, it requires it's it's a little bit more
mental than.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
It is physical obviously.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
It requires more communication. Uh, but but you know it takes.
It's less taxing if you're in zone because you're not
running all over the field all the time like you
are and man now, man.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Is more taxing obviously because the physical portion of it
being able to match up with the guy you were
in front of right as herm and Edwards would call it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Cat coverage, right, you got that cat right?
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
So from zone for me, zone is a little tougher because.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
What you are relying on is your mate, your buddy,
your teammate being on the same page with you.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
So that means we all have to see complimentary routes
all at the same time.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And oh, by the way, Ben, I have to hope
that you're not mentally tied, because if you're mentally tied,
which is different between being physically tired, then guess what,
you and I get enough oxygen into your brain. And
I'm pointing to you, clapping at you, trying to tell
you some of them, but guess what, you don't hear me.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I don't I'm zoned out, man, I'm trying to Rick.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think that is the difference because man requires more physicality,
or at least more out of you physically, I should say,
and it's less forgiving.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
But you know, the the the mental aspects of the
zone game are so tough. I mean, you have to
have that communication.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
You've got to understand where the seams are between your zones,
and you gotta and you guys have to have sort
of that community, that that that amieba. You know that
nebulous floating communication and know where those spots are and
know where who's got to pick who up as they
slide through those zones.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And the one thing about the zones is drops zone drops.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
There's there's a designated area that I need you to
hit in my If you are maybe the hook the
curl player.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Now when I say hooked the curl, you plan on
the tracks the hash marks. Now I may ask you
to be.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Like twelve, well eight to twelve back and maybe two
yards inside the numbers. Now if you were sitting at
six instead of starting at eight. Now you subject the
guy who's behind you now has a much larger You
put in stress on it and teams know that. That's
why they high low you and the good teams they
(30:30):
don't let you see it coming.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
No no, no, no, no, no no no. They bring
the guy who's sitting down in front of you.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
The quarterback is going to turn in that direction. You're
thinking I got a big hit or I'm about to
pick this one. But guess what, that's not where the
quarterback is going. Like the one guy that I played
against in my time who was brilliant at doing it,
I mean he was.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
An actor, not an actor. He was an actor and
that was Peyton Manning and they was great at it.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I love doing that where you're bringing you bring a guy,
you bringing two guys on crossers, one behind the other,
and you're bringing one in front.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Of to try to bite that and pull that down.
So I'm snagging you get that out and then im
and then I'm right behind it. I'm bringing somebody, you know.
And That's where I'm really going with the ball.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
And that is the thing again, these each philosophy man
zone has its strengths and its weaknesses, but it can
be the zone game is a mental man's game. I
mean you've got to be you've got to going on
point and you got to do that because you know
whereas uh like you're talking about cat coverage or hat covered.
You know, if you got this out and you got
to either way, like with man coverage, you get out
physical to guy, you'd be all right. I mean, that's
(31:32):
just your dude, and you're responsible for that dude. In
zone though, you've got to make mental calculations. Okay, he's
coming through. Is he sitting down or is he carrying through?
Do I drop off and drop it?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Let him go? What am I?
Speaker 3 (31:42):
So?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
There are there are aspects to both and the Broncos
defense it's a hybrid. You know, there's it's it looks
like a lot of man defense, but there are zone
principles to it, especially on the inside release.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
See, this is why I'm a huge fan of quarters.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Right you're running, you're running quarters because Quarters it has
both zone and man.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Type of principles associated with it.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
But it also allows your safeties to be fast flow
in the run if need be. But if it's a
strong save, you get a tight end he blots down,
now boom you fast flow. If he has an arn't release,
you know, there's nothing about that release that tells you
it's a run.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Right, And that's you know, That's why I think Quarters
is so vogue right now. And what what Vic does
is so vogue in the league right now. Now that's
not it's not what Advance does. But Vance has hybridized
a lot of the principles that he learned from Weed
and has added his own stamp to it. And I
think that's probably the next weave of defense in the
NFL as people have, Uh it's everybody just about his
pivoted to quarters and they figured out, Okay, you gotta
(32:43):
figure you got to have a power run game that's
able to that's that you're able to get chunks of yardge.
You got a nickel and diamond in the flask till
they bite and then you you know, you take your
your shots jesuitiously.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
It's just like the Cover two before it or the
Cover three, you know after that where everyone can't run
Over two.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Not everybody can and can't run it not everybody can
run Cover three, but they got figured out over time,
Like the Tampa two was the Vogue defense for a
while and they.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Got figured out, uh.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
And then the Cover three, you know, the Legion of
Boom and that was the Vogue defense for a while
and everybody's kind of figured that out, and so you
got quarters, which is in in in C six six stuff,
which which Fix runs which, But it's kind of getting
you know, it's kind of getting figured out. I wonder
if what Vance runs is the next league wide defenses
in the NFL, quarters or a.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Quarter, quarter a half. One side you playing quarters, the
other side you're playing cover two.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, and so our C six is you know, but yeah, anyway,
it's you know, those are the vogue defenses.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Right now we come back, We're gonna get into a
little talk.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Is this championship or bust for the Nuggets, Abs and Broncos.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
We come back on Broncos country, didn't I
Nine zero is the text line, and uh, Bolden Green
stand out linebacker Gideon Lampron is going to answer to
the transfer portal. And for those of you looking at
me quizically right now, are looking ready like why do
I care about this guy?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's not him or his play, which has actually been good.
Uh that I want to comment on real quick. It's
in his middle name in all caps is ESPN. I'm
dead serious, he got his middle name.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
What's his name? Gideon Lampron? Gideon Espn Lambron.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Uh with his dad, Marty Lampron knuck it onto his
son's birth certificate while his wife Jennifer was recovering from
giving birth.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I bet that one over great. It's legal. Middle name
is ESPN all caps.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
No, what are we doing here, dude, There's no way
Mom allowed that to count of certificates. It choice, yes,
But at at some point, once you realizes that it's
on there, you can actually change it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
You can.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
But at that point, linebacker and range Ohio, the real name,
all right, I promise you?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Gideon Espn Lambage?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Let me ask, let me ask this question. What's the
ethnic background of this individual?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I mean, I mean you would think. But then the
Gideon if you kind of go this is like when SHAKEE.
Gillis was on the SNL. You're guessing the arrests or whatever.
I'm like, you know, at the first you're like, Okay, no,
white white people aren't funny enough to do this.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
But then you wait minute. The first name is Gideon.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
By the way, it was going to be my first
name before my mom vetoed.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Look, there's all kinds of names that take place in
the hood. So that's what I had to ask, Right,
how did pop get get.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So, you know, just so you know, just guessing he's
got the answer. He doesn't have photo we we whit
take it on the chin on this way. So so
so go into the D n V. Right, you know
how it asked you first?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
But your middle middle initial put the E or do
your WI you gotta By the way, officially the name
is all caps too. It's all capital letters. There's no
lowercase letters, all caps.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Es is going excuse me, uh, who do you have
any Do you have any other form of I D?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Is this a joke? E?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Spnamron He was all back second team, by the way,
so it's not like he's a bad you know he's
a player. He's not he's bad play. He's hitting the
transfer portal. So if you, uh, if you ever wanted
on your your team, now you can uh go ahead
and get.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Kidd of dad. Don't know how mom still allowed that
to filter it through.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, and this dude one looks like his name should
be Chase Smith, you know, like he he.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Looks like he would tell you that his dad's going
to sue you. My dad's a lawyer, and I'm going
to sue you if you teach me.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Oh, this guy absolutely puts mayonnaise on everything he puts.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Could just imagine like like what was his first day
of school, like when he was like, I don't know,
in the sixth grade.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, it's like a middle name.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Though, so you know you don't have a chance to Okay,
those we play a little game right now. How many
of the three let's know each other's middle names?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I don't know a single one? Are you? I mean,
you guys probably know mine' that's available. I don't know.
And I don't know what you're I don't know what
your middle name is.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I don't know either it's an I give you my
initiatives A that's all you go.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
For MEBC ABC, the parent company.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh man, Nicholas, my wife wa tross.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
My wife would have wrung my neck if I did
like that on the on the birth certificate. How do
you think that is okay? But what if you named
a Bravo? Would she still be mad? Bravo? Yeah? Or Network?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
My wife would have been salty. My wife would have
been salty as hell?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
What are you doing to our son?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I just I just finally we can call attention to this.
That's Zachary hbo seekers over there.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Listen, man, look, I know some people in the hood,
like they combine first name and last name that the
Paros name or Arangelo or something.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Like that, like what is that orange jello?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
We've certainly seen the African American community come away with
some creative marriage before Oldest Crawford. I mean, you know Koolaid,
mckinstre and.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Right now, man, come on, man, now you can get
a nickname that has nothing to do with the food item,
but just because a parent just looked at you in
a certain way.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But kool Ai, come on, man, kool Aid if he
came out going, oh yeah, the doctor's standing there waiting
to kid.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Aside the whole time you bust out the birket Oh yeah, honey,
stick with me on this.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh KOOLI Hey when he gets to the league. Oh,
that's going to hit.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I know we were he I know we were favoring Derek. Yes,
what about koolid?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What about kool aid?
Speaker 6 (05:39):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Think about what? Hey telling your wife?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Think about the endorsements, right, you gotta take big picture.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Meanwhile, she's looking at you like you got two hairs.
So you're a new fool. I'm just saying, none of
us know each other, but test to say the middle names,
like none of us know each other's middle names. Like
my middle name is Bryce. None of us know each
other's middle names Bryce, Alexander. There you go, all right,
what's your min name? Alexander? Interesting? You both have a's
and I'm a b. That's why they call me the great. Yeah,
(06:10):
you just start doing that, Zach someone the name you
can't create yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I forgot to tell you you weren't here. Grant was
in here, and somebody on the text line thinks you
are an absolute, thinks you're a stud, and they started
calling you snacks seekers. I'm just telling you concerning concern
after the Steve Hernson shokes, somebody on the text line
started calling you that.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Snack seekers is he in tonight? So I was like, oh,
my name, at least.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
At least it's that way and not like Snacks Harrison
where it was very large.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Man, That's what I got, the snacks nickname.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And I'm wondering, Zach, are you going to tell you know,
Mario over Tansey or b Messes that someone calls you Snacks.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You gotta tell you that.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I mean, you have to one hundred percent lord that
over him. Yeah, that's gonna be a Fifth A Endment
issue for me, for sure. I'm gonna blasted on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, if you're not gonna put it out?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Did I say I wasn't gonna tell them? I met?
I was, Yeah, tell them that show is gonna go
for Let's talk Broncos and let's talk nicknames.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yes, are the Broncos catching the Packers at the right time.
The Packers got the pretty pretty hefty injury report. Broncos
getting healthy here Powers maybe probably not back this week,
but maybe Adkins looks like he's back with the Broncos,
weaving Marcedes Lewis today.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Uh, Pat Wright will be out for the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I'll just I know I reported that yesterday, but I'll
do it again for those who aren'tay attention. Pat Wright
will be out for the Broncos for this game. But overall,
Broncos fairly healthy. You look at the Packers and they've
got a lot of lingering issues. Now they are getting
healthy in some ways, and this is certainly gonna be
the most speed they've played on offense. But are we
catching him at the at the right time because of
the injury stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, and that's one thing that you can never prepare
yourself for and not always attested this teams that end
up playing in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Not to take anything away from.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Them coaching wise and playing wise, but it's mostly the
teams that are the healthiest. And the fact that when
you think about Josh Jacobs, who has had the Broncos
number from a defensive standpoint for for some years, so
he's been dealing with some swilling and is his knee right.
(08:25):
So it's up in the air whether he's going to
play on Sunday or not. But if he doesn't, Emmanuel
Wilson can definitely come in six feet two hundred and
twenty six pounds.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, he's got some side, he's got some.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Size, and he's coming downhill. But yeah, you know what,
this is the thing with the long season. This is
why you know the.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
League is eventually gonna get to eighteen games. Let's just
call it what it is.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And this is why when we get to this half
of the season, once the league finally moves to eighteen games,
it's going to affect a lot and a lot of
teams that started off the season that idea that they
were going to be in a super Bowl. We want
to see a lot of those things change because of injuries.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, and it's you know, we talked about the backup quarterbacks.
You already need five quarters to play out of a
backup quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Most teams too. On average.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Out of the season, you're probably going to get to
the point where you need five running backs and two
quarterbacks to make it through a season.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
If you've got an eighteen game season, they just to
wear and tear on the body.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Well, I don't think then it goes far than just
having five or six running backs.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So you have to have five or six quality running backs.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
That's for a second, you'd have five guys that you
can you know, and I'm not talking about the Burger
franchise that can go down there and play well, well, well.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You know what, I'll tell you what with my years
here with the Denver Broncos, that's essentially was kind.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Of the mo of Mike Senahan.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
That's why when someone a one running back went down,
it was like we go plug and playing, sit them
in there.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
But they also had the eye for talent in the
scheme to fit to me, because if matter it was
Run Browns or Mike Anderson, or Orlandis Garrier, tell Quinton
Griffith or Tatum, they just kept going and it was
just like these guys are just they aren't even real
names anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
We're just finding guys, finding guy. Can you run? Can
you count the four?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Do you know whether you know eighteen? Boss toss?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Can you run that with you? Okay, now you take
six steps of cut. Yes, yes, yes, yes it was.
It was that type of thing. But yes, you're.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Going to really need that.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
But it only emphasizes the importance of the run game.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And I can tell you this with one certainty. The
run game is.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Something that Matt Lafleur values because that's how he was taught.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
They build off that right with the run game, and
they run a lot on first down. They're one of
the heaviest under center teams on first down. They're one
of the heaviest run teams on first down. They're one
of the heaviest motion teams on first down. They are
absolutely they build off the run. I mean, everybody knows
Jordan Love for the passing, they know those receivers.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But the reality is Green Bay builds off the run
at your point.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, and you can't be off the Mike Shanahan tree
without that being a stateple. I know we've been joking
about ABC and D, but if you had a more choice,
tests is.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Like, what's the first thing you do offensively?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Run the ball, run the ball, run the ball, and
of course on the above run.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
The damn ball.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yes, he run the ball, store and like like. And
they've been effective with that. I mean that that's that
that offense, he is quite effective. They are very good
at what they do. This is gonna be an interesting
game because the Packers have a lot of speed on
the outside that I don't know if the Broncos have
seen uh this much this year, I wonder, I mean,
they've played talented receivers. Obviously you've seen what now Jake
(11:31):
Browning was still on the ball, but they played talented receivers.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Then, you know, it's different having Higgins and Chase Polls
and having you know, Brownie being the quarterback opposed to
having Jordan Love be your quarterback. And you got Watson, Dobbs,
Reeves and mencis Wick, Smelton, Matc Golden.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
They got a lot of speed on the outside.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And we are a man team and Jordan Love is
at his best going against man.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
And what happens with you playing a defense that's playing
man and you just so happen lose contained.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, there's nobody back there to you know, if you're
a corner there, this is rid of Moss and you
know it, pats Er Tan, there's nobody back there to
help you in this one.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
This is gonna be you know, you're on your own.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
And I hope that Sir Tan gets lined up on
Watson because Watson's the exact kind of guy Moss is
struggle with six four two eight. Yeah, it's and a
law to chew up the yardage with every with every
step Watson, those big physical guys are the ones that
Moss struggles. Moss plays really well against He's played well
against fast guys, whatever. It's just those big guys, those
big guys, big athletic guys that he struggled with a
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little bit at times.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You know, the George Pickens type. So just the hyper athletic,
big dudes that play that position.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
So I think you're gonna want to try to get
find ways to get Watson on cirtan uh and let
and hope that you end up with Moss on.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
What you do if you're an offensive coordinator is really simple,
Like like a guy that you want to feature, get
one of the Broncos anyone else, and the same go
for Sean Payton and the Broncos offense. Do you take
your marquee guy and you get him off the ball?
I mean what you think about when Kyle Shenihan was
Matt Ryan and with the Falcons, Julio Jones, big wide
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receiver right, just like Watson, but they moved him around,
they got him off the ball. So to create a
match of a mismatch where you can't really get your
hands on him if you're playing man coverage, and you'll
see some of that.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
They've got Jayden Reid coming out of the slot. That's
a lot of speed too. You got that gold that
comes on at speed on Terry Wicks that speed. They've
got speed on the outside and I cannot stress that
off the Broncos fans.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
This is going to be the toughest test this defense
is faced here.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
So with that said, what defensive scheme if you're Vance
Joseph to account for all of these speedy wide receivers
and keep them in front of you, what defense would
you call?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well, you got two. You got two philosophies here, two
schools of thought. Basically, one is you get enough pressure
that there's no deep developing stuff that you play your
corners off and you get enough pressure there that you
can't that they can't get by you.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Right, that's that's gonna happen, but it's not gonna happen
as consistently.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So where do you go?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
The other option is something that's antithetical to what Vance
Joseph does, which is too deep man under and then
and that you've got to help over the top if
if you need it. But that takes Ufaga and Jones
out of their strengths being down there interchangeably in the.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Box and giving you different looks.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
So once again, this defense is going to be pressed
with not just being having great communication at home, being
on the same page, having the guys in the secondary
all seen the same thing, which I can tell you
can be problematic at times. And if you go and
you play too deep, guess what bes too deep? Four verts? Yeah, right,
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So the players would have to understand when you are
in too deep, too deep safeties high, and you get
four verticals, four gods screaming down the field, your zone
now turns into man coverage.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's a pick them, yes you say, it becomes a
pick them at that point for you.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So that that that you know there are different problems.
Speed creates problems, and the Packers a lot of problem.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Packers have a lot of speed, and that's that's one
of those things whereas you look at this game coming up,
this is why I think this is going to be
the toughest test for the Denver Broncos defense so far
this year.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
They play good offenses.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I mean obviously Pat Mahomes can't say is they played
you know, the Cowboys and Bengalo that kind of So
they play good offenses. This is going to be the
toughest test for the defensively because there's just so much speed.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Also too, if you if you play cover two too much,
what you basically do you're.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Daring the team to run the ball, right.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, so you have to be great in tackling in
open space and your safeties have to be your extra defenders.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And run support. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I think you're going to see a lot of single
high looks on early downs and then when you get
to late downs and you'll have some rotations back into
those late down That's that's great. Green Bay is good
and third downs they are They're they're good. They're good
football team. I don't want a short change screen bad
at all. And you know they're a good football team.
They despite the record, isn't quite as good as I
think they are. They have some defensive you know, adjustments
here there. See they lost craft all of the offense
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has gotten better since Crafts has been out.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Well, this is why I feel as though like you're
saying that this is a challenge for the Denver Broncos
on paper statistically, and that's why getting this win would
would be great for so many different reasons. It keeps
you in a hunt for their first round buy. But
it puts that Raiders game in the rearview mirror as
you look forward to Jacksonville the Chargers and that game
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on Christmas, which I don't care where the Chiefs are
at that point out of the playoffs. I still think
that there's still a dangerous team on that Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
They love to spoil it for the Broncos on Christmas
Day and take that gift back we cut back.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
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Speaker 2 (16:53):
Hotline and bring on our guy, Henry Chisholm from d
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Speaker 1 (16:56):
No word on if Henry's middle name is d MVR
in all caps, but we'll find that out for you.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Henry, how you doing this evening? Good?
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Unfortunately that's not my middle name. Middle name's Richard. We
do as our producer for the show is named Dion.
I started calling him dion VR, but that's.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
About as close as we get.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Okay, Yeah, we just didn't know if we had much
like the linebacker from Bolden Green was, you know, the
ESPN middle name. We were trying to try to see
if anybody else No, no dice there think and I
were head headed to break. We were talking about how
the Packers might be the biggest test for the Broncos
so far this season.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
A lot of speed on the outside.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I know the Broncos have played a few good offenses,
but they I don't think they've played anybody with this
much speed on the outside. What say you about this matchup?
Speaker 8 (17:38):
No, I think that that's probably the case. The speed
in particular, you know, the Bengals receivers are incredible. It's
just a little bit different game when you're playing at
Jake Browning versus Joe Burrow, Like the receivers for the
Cowboys are phenomenal.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
But yeah, it's not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
The speed that stands out. I think i'd agree.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
That this has to be the fastest group that the
Broncos are going up against.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Well, we look at the fact of the run game,
and the Broncos were able to establish some semblance of
a run game last week RB against the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
What do you think or how do you.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Think that that run game is going to shape up
against Jeff Hafley in that package defense to suit this week.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You know, I'm curious.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
It's been a lot of fun to watch r J
Harvey throughout the season.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Of course, when JK.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
Dobbins is here, you know that he's going to get
the majority of the carries between the tackles, which leads
RJ to take a bunch of the receiving role. And
so when you see him catch a ball in the backfield,
I think he's still second in the NFL among rookie
running backs and receiving yards. You know, he kind of
found that niche and he was able to break some
big plays off and be a contributor to the offense.
(18:45):
But throughout the season, he just never really was able
to find his footing as a runner until this week
against the Raiders, And so I'm curious he seems more
confident just being around him.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
A little bit. He seems more comfortable in that role.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
But yeah, I mean, like you said, this is a
tough defense specifically to run against, and it's certainly more
of a test.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
It is nice, though, I think, just to.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
Have that Raider game in your mind if you're a
rookie running.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Back, knowing that at least this is possible, knowing what it.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
Feels like to get seventeen carries and be productive with them.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
I think that confidence is going to be important.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I think this week absolutely talk with Henry Chisholm from
dmv R.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Henry, we know Pat Bryant's going to be out for
the game this Sunday. You know, I think Nick and
I both hope that that means we'll see a lot
more of our most explosive player in Marvin Mims. But
I personally don't trust it, as I know that Sean
Bayden has never met the play. He doesn't want to
dial up for a little Jordan Humphrey. As we as
we start to look at this thing this weekend, who
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do you want to see more of Mims? Elijah more
you see more Troy frankl or Humphrey. Who do you
want to see more of in that?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
In his stead?
Speaker 8 (19:53):
I take it it's Marvin's turn.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I think you got to get him more involved.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
We've kind of seen the ebbs and flows for all
those guys. Troy Franklin for a month there was looking
like a very good receiver for the Broncos, and he
kind of fades out and you see flashes from other guys.
I was talking to Marvin yesterday, and one of the
things that he said was, you know, he's not too
worried about the opportunities he gets, you know, because he
gets to return the kicks, return the punts. He has
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a way to contribute. And on top of that, he
believes every time he's gotten an opportunity that he's basically
taken advantage of it. And when you have that thought
in your mind, it's a lot easier to say, hey,
I've proven myself. They'll call on me when they need me,
and when my time comes, I don't need to try
to do too much because I've made big plays, or
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I think his words were, I've made remarkable plays for
this team before.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I do think that it is his turn.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
I think that, especially with Pat Bryan out, it just
makes it so easy.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
To say, hey, we've got to get Marvin more involved.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
And we saw what he did in December last year
when he was one of the NFL's most productive receivers.
And I think a lot of us that by this
time this year we would have seen that carry over
a bit.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
We would have at least had you know, a month
a month.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Long stretch like that at some point. But the fact
that we haven't, the fact that he's.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Coming off that punt return touchdown.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
I think that this is I think that this is
kind of his time to shine.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Oh, we think.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
About where the Broncos currently sit right now as far
as the set count, they sit at fifty five sacks.
So I'm going to give you an opportunity to predict
that are over under on sacks for the Broncos on
Sunday against Joe Love and the Packers.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
That's uh, you know, I'll say give me five.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I think it's a big game.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
Yeah, we were talking key to the game earlier this morning.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
My key was the pass rush depth.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
I think that's what's kind of been missing as we've
seen the Broncos defense. I don't want to say perform poorly,
but maybe have a couple of lapses over the past
few weeks where we expect them to be a little
bit more dominant than they've been.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I think a lot of that is not having Jonah Ellis.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
I think that in the past when they've taken.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
Nick Benito and Jonathan Cooper off the field, they didn't
see much drop off because of that depth. But you
lose one piece of that depth things change. Getting Jonah
back on the field last week, I think is big.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
I think that adding him means that we can kind.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Of get back to this dominant rush that we saw
especially early in the season. So I'll say I'll stick
to my guns and say I think I think they
get five I think they get to Jordan Love five times.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Tyler henry ch is home from d NVR.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You know, we're still in the middle of a season, obviously,
and there's a lot to go. It's just that the
Broncos are going to make the playoffs it looks like,
and hopefully have a little bit of a run. But
as we look at this team as constructed, are there
any pieces you feel like are missing?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
And what would you like to see the Broncos go
after this offseason?
Speaker 8 (22:49):
I think, to me, it's still running back. You know,
we saw what the Broncos look like when they have
a productive running back. That's when they felt fairly dominant
when JK. Dobb there was leading the charge. He's one
of the five most productive running.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Backs in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
But you know, as much as I hope to see R. J.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
Harvey take a step forward, and I think that he's
capable of it. The truth is, in the modern NFL,
you need two running backs. And so even if you
do look at R. J. Harvey at the end of
the year and say, hey, we like what we see,
we like what we got for our second round pick,
I think you still need to add another piece. And
you know, I wouldn't call it a glaring need.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I don't think the Broncos have one of those.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
But just given the depth across the team, I don't
really have anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That I think I would point to. We've we watched him.
Evan England kind of methodically.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Kind of build up his stats over the season, obviously
the biggest games against Washington Commanders. Do you think he
could be in for a big pass catching game against
the Packers?
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Against the Packers, it's tricky. So you brought up the
game against the Commanders.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So by far his best game of the season.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
Then what the Broncos did there was spread that defense out.
They really found ways to force linebackers to cover Evan
Ingram and because of that.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
They were able to produce or he was able to produce.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
I think that the game plan against the Packers is
more similar to the game plan against the Raiders than
it is to the game plan against the Commanders, and
by that I mean running the football using heavy personnel,
a lot of Little dur and Humphrey, a lot of
Nate Adkins who hopefully will be back.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
That to me is the route that I.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
See this going.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
I do think though, that when you look back at
playoffs football recently, tight ends have just been so important.
You know, the Eagles win the Super Bowl last year,
their leading receiver wasn't a J. Brown, it wasn't Devonte Smith, it.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Was Dallas Goddard.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
And you can kind of go back through the history
of all these playoff runs. Obviously, guys like Travis Kelcey
and Rob Gronkowski of skew things toward tight ends, but
the production of tight.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Ends in the postseason and even late in the season in.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
General has been huge in determining.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Who winds up winning. And I think.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
Eventually you need to see more from Evan Ingram. I'm
just not sure if this is the week to where
the game plan fits.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Talk with Henry Chisholm from d NBR, I wanted to
shift gears a little bit here and talk about the
state of football in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I guess as a whole.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
You got to see us brings in Brendon Marion for
the go go offense.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
You got Jim Mora now at CSU.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Is are we getting a football renaissance in the state
of Colorado?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I hope so you know. I'm a Montana guy.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Went to University of Montana Sacramento State, watched a lot
of their games where Brendan Marion was.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
The head coach.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
This year, I will say Montana head coach Bobby Hawk
might have been onto something when he called the Montana
defense the no no defense.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
After beating Sacramento State. I mean, the point is that Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
State offense was a lot of fun to watch. I'm
curious to see what he does.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
The creative run game was so interesting there.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
There's so much misdirection.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
The quarterback there didn't put up big passing numbers all
that efficient, but that's because he was a big guy
who was able to run a lot and you know,
put his shoulder down into guys and open everything up
in the run game. With all the different quirky read
options and all the things that they get up.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
There, I'm curious what that looks.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Like with a guy like Juju Lewis at.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
Quarterback, who I'd imagine will still be the starter next
year for Colorado, though nothing's ever guarantee. A very mobile guy,
but a guy who can make a couple more plays
of his arm. Do you really want him putting his
shoulder down? And if that's the case, how does it
kind of change the way the run game plays out
because the quarterback run was so important with what Brendan
Mary was doing. But you know, I think he's been awesome.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'm curious to see Jim Moore.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Of course, Broncos are.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
They've said like they are Super Bowl contenders again.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Renaissance.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
I'm all in.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I just you know, as you're looking at this, I'm like, well,
it's just, you know, we we're kind of having an
era here, or looks to be having an era here
where there's a lot of quality football going on.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And certainly appreciate it. We appreciate your time today, Henry
as well. Afford to catching you down.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
There and seeing the Broncos take on the Packers and
hopefully get that W this weekend.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Yeah, they've got they've got a puncher chance.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
At least you've got the Sportswoks.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Don't believe yeah, well, you know who cares what they think? Well,
we'll just keep cashing tickets. Henachism from d NVR. Appreciate
the time, buddy, thank you.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
You know he thinks he seems to agree a lot
of speed out of the Packers and this could present
a problem for this Broncos man defense.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
But this is the right time to be exposed to that.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
You want to figure out going into the latter half
of the season what you can and what you can't do.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And when you look at the.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Broncos from a second every standpoint, they have the guys
to play both man and zone.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Now what it comes down to, and I tell with
this all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Now you say, okay, but I'll ask you which one
do you think is tougher?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Man is Zone?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
And why I think Man is tougher simply because it
requires more, especially if you are in it constantly. It
requires more out of you physically in terms of running.
So there's more from a stamina perspective.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
And then there's no there's no forgiveness in man, like
if you make a mistake, somebody double, there's nobody back.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
There to help you.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
In zone, it requires it's it's a little bit more
mental than.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
It is physical obviously.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
It requires more communication. Uh, but but you know it takes.
It's less taxing if you're in zone because you're not
running all over the field all the time like you
are and man now, man.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Is more taxing obviously because the physical portion of it
being able to match up with the guy you were
in front of right as herm and Edwards would call it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Cat coverage, right, you got that cat right?
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
So from zone for me, zone is a little tougher because.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
What you are relying on is your mate, your buddy,
your teammate being on the same page with you.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
So that means we all have to see complimentary routes
all at the same time.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And oh, by the way, Ben, I have to hope
that you're not mentally tied, because if you're mentally tied,
which is different between being physically tired, then guess what,
you and I get enough oxygen into your brain. And
I'm pointing to you, clapping at you, trying to tell
you some of them, but guess what, you don't hear me.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I don't I'm zoned out, man, I'm trying to Rick.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think that is the difference because man requires more physicality,
or at least more out of you physically, I should say,
and it's less forgiving.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
But you know, the the the mental aspects of the
zone game are so tough. I mean, you have to
have that communication.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
You've got to understand where the seams are between your zones,
and you gotta and you guys have to have sort
of that community, that that that amieba. You know that
nebulous floating communication and know where those spots are and
know where who's got to pick who up as they
slide through those zones.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And the one thing about the zones is drops zone drops.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
There's there's a designated area that I need you to
hit in my If you are maybe the hook the
curl player.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Now when I say hooked the curl, you plan on
the tracks the hash marks. Now I may ask you
to be.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Like twelve, well eight to twelve back and maybe two
yards inside the numbers. Now if you were sitting at
six instead of starting at eight. Now you subject the
guy who's behind you now has a much larger You
put in stress on it and teams know that. That's
why they high low you and the good teams they
(30:30):
don't let you see it coming.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
No no, no, no, no, no no no. They bring
the guy who's sitting down in front of you.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
The quarterback is going to turn in that direction. You're
thinking I got a big hit or I'm about to
pick this one. But guess what, that's not where the
quarterback is going. Like the one guy that I played
against in my time who was brilliant at doing it,
I mean he was.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
An actor, not an actor. He was an actor and
that was Peyton Manning and they was great at it.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I love doing that where you're bringing you bring a guy,
you bringing two guys on crossers, one behind the other,
and you're bringing one in front.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Of to try to bite that and pull that down.
So I'm snagging you get that out and then im
and then I'm right behind it. I'm bringing somebody, you know.
And That's where I'm really going with the ball.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
And that is the thing again, these each philosophy man
zone has its strengths and its weaknesses, but it can
be the zone game is a mental man's game. I
mean you've got to be you've got to going on
point and you got to do that because you know
whereas uh like you're talking about cat coverage or hat covered.
You know, if you got this out and you got
to either way, like with man coverage, you get out
physical to guy, you'd be all right. I mean, that's
(31:32):
just your dude, and you're responsible for that dude. In
zone though, you've got to make mental calculations. Okay, he's
coming through. Is he sitting down or is he carrying through?
Do I drop off and drop it?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Let him go? What am I?
Speaker 3 (31:42):
So?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
There are there are aspects to both and the Broncos
defense it's a hybrid. You know, there's it's it looks
like a lot of man defense, but there are zone
principles to it, especially on the inside release.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
See, this is why I'm a huge fan of quarters.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Right you're running, you're running quarters because Quarters it has
both zone and man.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Type of principles associated with it.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
But it also allows your safeties to be fast flow
in the run if need be. But if it's a
strong save, you get a tight end he blots down,
now boom you fast flow. If he has an arn't release,
you know, there's nothing about that release that tells you
it's a run.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Right, And that's you know, That's why I think Quarters
is so vogue right now. And what what Vic does
is so vogue in the league right now. Now that's
not it's not what Advance does. But Vance has hybridized
a lot of the principles that he learned from Weed
and has added his own stamp to it. And I
think that's probably the next weave of defense in the
NFL as people have, Uh it's everybody just about his
pivoted to quarters and they figured out, Okay, you gotta
(32:43):
figure you got to have a power run game that's
able to that's that you're able to get chunks of yardge.
You got a nickel and diamond in the flask till
they bite and then you you know, you take your
your shots jesuitiously.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
It's just like the Cover two before it or the
Cover three, you know after that where everyone can't run
Over two.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Not everybody can and can't run it not everybody can
run Cover three, but they got figured out over time,
Like the Tampa two was the Vogue defense for a
while and they.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Got figured out, uh.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
And then the Cover three, you know, the Legion of
Boom and that was the Vogue defense for a while
and everybody's kind of figured that out, and so you
got quarters, which is in in in C six six stuff,
which which Fix runs which, But it's kind of getting
you know, it's kind of getting figured out. I wonder
if what Vance runs is the next league wide defenses
in the NFL, quarters or a.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Quarter, quarter a half. One side you playing quarters, the
other side you're playing cover two.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, and so our C six is you know, but yeah, anyway,
it's you know, those are the vogue defenses.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Right now we come back, We're gonna get into a
little talk.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Is this championship or bust for the Nuggets, Abs and Broncos.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
We come back on Broncos country, didn't I
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