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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Got Next Saturday, it's Broncos and bus football and react
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
That's next Saturday, Saturday, eight p eight am. Excuse me
to midnight on KOA. We got wall to wall coverage
next Saturday, Broncos and Buffs. You guys disappointed at all
about the uh, the Buffs taken on BYU and the
Almeal Bowl and at the facto conference game, Yes, it
upsets me.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
You know, they haven't played. I'm still upset about it.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah. I was a huge problem with it.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
I mean, this was kind of a big twelve matchup
there we could have seen during the regular season. Had
things going right for the Buffs and they beat Kansas State,
I mean, I mean, excuse me, Kansas, things would have
been entirely different. But I thought the bowl games were
best suited to watch teams play out of co off
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as teams not the same team within your conference. To me,
where where where is the glory in recruiting with that
you meet someone in your conference in a bowl game?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, to me, the Bowl.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
If Bulls are going to have any relevance whatsoever in
the playoff era, you've got to create exotic matchups that
just aren't going to occur otherwise, because that's what people.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Want to see. Right.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
You want to see Colorado taking on an SEC team
like Arkansas, Right, No, I wanted to see cam Ward
versus Sad.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Matchups like that.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Playoffs you want to see stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And so those are really the you're either marketing the
personalities or you're marketing exotic matchups that you're not otherwise
going to get. And in this case, we got a
conference matchup between Colorado and BYU. Now I imagine the
diehards will go travel and watch the game and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
But this has got to be disappointing, right, Yeah, it
is disappointing.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I listen.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I was OneD sports Zoo early in the week and
this conversation came up. I know, as a former CEU Buff,
Dave was okay with this because the Buffs had been
to a bowl game in some time, Right, me, on
the other hand, is just like, no, it just can't be. Okay,
let's just get to the bowl. I know Coach Prom
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said that's what he wanted to do for Miss Peggy,
get her to a bowl.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Right, this is a bowl. It's not the Bowl, it's
an exhibition bowl. But it's all yes, that's all this is.
Shod Or will be playing in this one. Shoud door
Santa Stress. Of those guys, they're gonna be playing in
this bowl game. So good on, good on them for that.
What do you it's his last game at Colorado? Does
he have anything left to prove here? And what is
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his legacy at Colorado?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
At the end of the day, he cemented his legacy
as being, I'll say, one of the better quarterbacks who
playing to see U uniform. And I know there's probably
some SeeU alone probably screaming at me, but just burying
me for a second. I mean, after Cordell Stewart, I
mean things. The cover was kind of bear do you
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think and no one was really paying attention to the
Buffs football, But Coach.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Prime came in.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Even though they only won a couple of games in
his first year, everyone was so excited about him and
able to talk to town here in Denver, Boulder and
across college football, so much so that it pissed a
couple of coaches off right that they were getting so
much press and clippings. And the second year, I mean
they took things to a whole different level. I mean
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things jumped up as far as student enrollment nils and
portal transfers. So I love what coach Primme is doing
up in Boulder. And shador really made the name of
himself so much so that he was in a Heisman conversation.
But more importantly, he's in that conversation to see, well,
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who's going to be the top player taking in the
twenty twenty five draft other than Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
So I think he did a good job for himself.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
He doesn't have the opportunity to put his name on
the CU record books. He's not going to pass up
the yardage record. He's not going to pass up Montes
or le Foul or to even get close because those
guys had multiple years to be able to do it.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I had four years to be able to do it,
rather in Shadoro had two.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
But if he does throw for two touchdown passes one
touchdown pass would tie him with Steven Montes and Cody
Hawkins for the all time touchdown passes for Colorado. Two
would give him sole possessorship of the lead in total
touchdown passes.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Well, Colorado, listen, I am not the one that played
the ponies. But I will go out on the limb
and say, well, I'll take the over on that one,
and he throws two or more.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yes, I'll take that over.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Okay, Yeah, Because he currently has sixty two touchdown passes
at CEU, whereas Cody Hawkins and Steven Montese each have
sixty three. The big difference between those three quarterbacks. Schaudor
finishes his career right now, one game left, obviously with
eleven interceptions. Cody Hawkins had forty three and Steven Montes
had thirty three, both those two, of course, playing four
full seasons.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I did not believe that co Tody.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Hawkins was tied for the lead in touchdown passes.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I did not believe that until I saw it.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Well, when you said Hawkins and you mentioned Montes.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I was just like n But I did not know
Cody Hawkins was there, and.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I think Montes was up there in that particular way.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
But good for him, Good for him. But this is
the challenges you want in any collegiate program, right, they say,
Well the cliche saying records are meant to be broken,
but you want something to kind of really challenge guys.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I mean you go with a look across the field
and you.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
See your opponent and you think that gets you up
to go and play on a week to week basis.
But knowing as though you were competing with guys who've
come before you playing in your same position and you're
trying to outdo them as well, to me, that adds
something extra to the mix.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, I you know, remembering the career of Cody Hawkins,
that is not what I would have thought.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
The interceptions I absolutely believed, but I did not tell you.
I did not believe he led see you where it
was tied for the lead. Rather it's you in touchdown
st Stepha Lee Fowl was the other guys that makes
the four of them that are above fifty. None that
nobody else's close. Joe Klatt has forty six. It would
be next on the list. Uh As we look at
uh this, shador And and Dion had some words to
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say on anything.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
About your legacy what's your legacy as a Buff.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I was able to turn everything around and get everything
back on the right track on how it was in
the past, and uh.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Just bringing Colorado back to the glory days.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
You know, it's funny just I remember coming in and
reading some of the stuff and hearing like nepotism. You know,
why would you have your son playing quarterback? We're like,
you must you couldn't have watched the film. We couldn't
watched tape to understand like what we have on the
roster and what he brings to the table. And I'm
glad everything was said, everything was done with everything worked
out accordingly, like it like it did.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
It was like his the record says, it's perfect timing.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
But just to flip the whole thought process of Buff
football and Buff Nation, it has been incredible. I mean,
we've had some young men on the team and his
roster in that locker room, his teammates said, even came
from Jackson that are truly responsible for changing the whole
mindset of who we are.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Shador led the conference in completions, yards, touchdowns, yards per game,
and rating. He led the FBS and completion percentage this
past year, and his career is the all time FBS
career leader in completion percentage at seventy one point eight percent.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Although he did finish as thirteen and ten.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
As a starter.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Part of that, I think is building up from a
program that started. You know, they took over the head
one win, but thirteen and ten as a starter with
one win against a ranked opponent, is that disappointment.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
That was not not for me in my eyes.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Because let's go back to where CU was before Chador
or Prime came to Boulder with his nepotism. Right, No,
no one really cared at about what was going on
in Boulder.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
We knew there was a team there, he had some.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Uniforms, they had a field, but no one.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Really, no one would cared about CU football. That program
was ostensibly dead.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Yes, And if you've been out to a game at
Folsom Field over these past two years, whether the Buffs
won the game or not, it was one of those
places that you had to be, like on a Saturday
afternoon or Saturday night, you know, it was one of
those places that you needed to be. And so that
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was right when it comes to his legacy, coming here,
just trying to make his mark change the perception of
Buffs football, but also leave it in a good space
where now he can move on and he can say, well,
I came from Jackson State, me and my father with
this idea of making waves and head waves in college football,
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and no one really believed us. Everyone was just kind
of looking down on us from a negative standpoint. But
we changed college football. And I would say, even though
to see you, Buffs have not in the college football
playoffs per se, They've essentially change buzz football and how.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
We look at them.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well, yeah, I mean it is a culturally, it is
a mecca right now. It is the center point of
college football. It's interesting to me some of the criticisms
that he gets that aren't Levy and other coaches that
may have done the same thing Chrit Signetty. By the way,
in Indiana playing Notre Dame took thirty kids out of
the portal. Miniana doesn't get dinged for taking thirty kids
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out of the portal? Is that just because Dion was
the first one through.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
The door on that?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
You know what is the reason here that we're all
bashing Dion for using the portal like that and we're
all praising Indiana for.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
The turnaround that they had. We know what that is,
man nepotism. We've seen that to see you before.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I just mentioned the guy Cody Hawkins, Hawkins's son.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I mean, but we've seen nepotism all over the place.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
You look at any line of work.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Well yeah, yeah, it's both though, it's a nepotism. But
it's one thing to say you're going to do something.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
And talk a good talk. Now you got to get
out there and walk the walk, and.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
The bus really did that, primarily do that, and he
really changed the culture and reshaped once again, not just
see you football, well, in my opinion, college football as
a whole, because one guy had so many coaches pissed
off at him based on the level of publicity and
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news covers that his team, him and his team were
receiving opposed to those coaches who had been in the
college game for longer than coach prime.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And of course it was interesting when he got into coaching,
as you're talking about a coach with no coaching experience
or any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Obviously has the playing experience.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
They didn't have the coaching experience, you know, and by
and large experience success early specifically down at the you know,
the HBC level, but you know, it looks like they're
building something at Colorado.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Will see.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm interested to see the next chapter without and what
his investment is without his son's here. I'm interested to
see if that changes anything, that changes him at all.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
I am interested to see that.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Angle of it as far as you know the rest
of it goes.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Where does the CU program go from here?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You know, I mean you brought in now the kid
from Liberty, You've got the recruit, you got Juju. The
recruit that you got in gonna be a QB battle
for that. And you've got a an NC doua A
or a college football landscape that has seen what he's
done in pulling things out of the transfer portal.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
And are adopting those himself.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Now there's competition in the marketplace, does that erode some
of his ability to be able to do what he
does or as the originator, does that make that more desirable.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
It is the same with what coach Prime will do
and who he is, and that that has been established
long time ago. It's going back to where he was
returning kicks for Bobby Boden in Florida, State, and he
had the Jerry Curl.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Glow.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
He had.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Yes. And I know the new term that the kids
used now is called drip. No, that was the drip back.
The literal dri literally drip exactly, get up off your
sofa and leave a stain. But he's been that same
person since those days, being a great self promoter and
being able to go out there and promote himself, his coaches,
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the equipment staff, the medical staff that came with him
from Jackson State. This is the one thing I love
about Coach Prime because he's one of those guys that
he's going.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
To keep people employed.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Right, as long as c U continues to do well,
he's going to keep people around him employed. And he's
employing the right people. He's creating the right culture that's
around him. So I don't see see you football going down.
I just see the trending arrow trending up for them.
Because even though Shador is not going to be there,
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Travis Hunter is not going to be there, all I
still are going to be on Bolder because everyone wants
to see what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Well, that is the thing.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Who's the next personality steps up? You imported shador A,
Travis Hunter. The story came with them. Maybe they were
top recruits. You had him come down to the HBCU level.
Now you're approven that you were doing it at the
FBS level. The question is who's the next personality on
the field here at Colorado because coach prime as the
coach just compelling as that is, is not moving the needle.
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If they're not winning games or they're not putting up
statistical you know, they're not having statistical production at which
someone can invest in, whether that's a Heisman.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Candidate and an NFL draft pick whatever.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Well, the idea is that for me, Ben is the
art of the sale ry. Can you be a salesman? Right?
I'm not talking about a door to door salesman. I'm
not talking about a car salesman. No, no, no, no.
I'm talking about someone can you sell yourself? And where
I come from in Florida and a promise for Florida too.
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And I don't know if you guys have heard the same,
but it's always said that you need to have.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
The gift of gab.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Right, you got to have the gift to gap, You
have to have the ability to sell water too well,
and Coach Prime has that and as long as he
has that personality, everything else will come along. Players are
going to say, I want to play there after seeing
what happened with Travis Hunter, and he's he gave Travis
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the ability to play both sides because he knew that.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
And he believed in him.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
More players who have that ability going to say, you
know what, Coach Prime, if you're gonna allow me to
play both ways, I'm coming.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
To see you come there. You get an advantage of that.
You do have to be a bit of a car
salesman to be a head coach anyway. That's what recruiting
is a good car.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Not all of them are. Not all of them are.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Not all of them are good car salesmen, but you
get the idea.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
This has encouraged other programs to take a look at
hiring former athletes with no coaching experience. Norfolk State this
week hired Michael Vick as their new head coach. Do
we expect any success out of Norfolk State because of
Michael Vick?
Speaker 5 (15:29):
I would say right away, once again, it's all about
can you motivate players who go out there and play
outside of themselves, because that's.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
What coaching is.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Whether you play the game or you didn't, can a
coach is still in you that Hey, there's a brick
wall right there.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
It is four layers thick. Now.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I know physically everything tells me you can't run through
that wall.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
But if you can inspire a guy that much.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
As a coach and getting run through that wall, and
I hope that Michael Vick is able.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
To do that, Yeah, that's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And I wonder what the attention is going to be
on Norfolk State this week just because of Michael Vick
at the head coach position, if that will bring them
attention to a previous you know, program that didn't have
a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
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(16:43):
Gunn the guy who did the Guardians of the Galaxy
as do we.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yes, I have and I have some thoughts. I have
some thoughts. Well give me give me first and foremost,
give me your thoughts. First. Well, first of.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
All, I don't like we're having the dog in there,
We're having Crypto in there, Like Crypto isn't pumping.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Enough over there with Bitcoin.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Now we got the dog, you know, I like, there's
there's a It felt like it was doing too much.
There was like so many characters and there for those
of you who don't know Comic lawd that's got Guy
Gardner in there. It's got mister Terrific in there. You
see Hawk Girl in There's so there's like a ton
going on.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
It was weird.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Like the guy who's doing the actor looks like Richard
Iowaani when he's Clark Kent and then looks like Henry
Cavill when he's Superman, which you know, cool for the
transition there, but he looks like a like a like
a stoned out dork as U as Clark Kent. And
then they got they got this this wig on Nathan
phill Yon for those of you who don't know Nathan
Fillion as he's on the rookie.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
He was in my favorite ever TV show, Firefly.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
He he has this wig on.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It looks like he's a reject from a knockoff he
Man movie in nineteen eighty two. Uh as as Guy
Gardner in there, and I like the Guy Gardner in
the comic. He's kind of a he's kind of a
d bag, but he's like, he's not that.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Kind of you know whatever, And so you know, I
don't know, there's a there's a lot going on here.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
And I it didn't look like I don't know. I'm
gonna I'm gonna give.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
James gun the benefit of the doubt because he hasn't
done me wrong yet.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
But the trailer I was super met.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I wasn't overly excited about it. I know, it's kind
of a Superman reboot.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
For me.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
When you rebooting a series like this that, in my opinion,
that was really successful with Henry Cavell as the Man
of Steel.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I thought that you're gonna, like jay Z, let.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Me reintroduce myself and we need to learn this character.
Really gets to know this character through the eyes of
James Gunn's direction, and for me, introducing so many characters
you love the idea of introducing more characters, but at
the same time, I want to see what his version
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Superman by himself, standalone carrier, stand long character being able
to carry the movie.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
And I have to.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Say when I watched it, and I watched it several times,
I couldn't help but think that visually it just looks
like a CW television so just kind of a regular
DC CW television show.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, for those of you who don't know, David corn Sweat
is the actor who's playing Superman.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
This may not know who he is.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
He played a little bit in House of Cards. I'm
trying to think of other things, but he was a
little bit in the movie Twisters. He was in there
for a second, but not really a well known actor
as far as that that stuff goes. Yeah, I did
did have kind of a field to that was just
kind of I don't know. It did feel a bit
small scale, you know what I mean, Like there was
a lot happening, but then it felt like something that
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you could see on TV.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And not maybe at a movie theater. Grant, have you
seen the trailer?
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Just watched him?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay, I did like Nicholas Holt look as Lex Luthor.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, I like him as Yeah, I liked him as
an actor.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
There's some things I haven't liked to me in, Like
I didn't like him what was he an X Man?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I think it was.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I didn't like him as Beast the Next Man it was.
But I liked him in that, uh that Russian you
know I'm talking about on Hulu. He was the king
in that Russian show. It He's so great that. Yeah, Kate,
what is it called I'm remember in the grade or something.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yes, he's so good in that.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
But I liked his look as Lex Luthor here, although
he actually looks.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Like the lead character from the hit Man video game
kind of as well.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, I love your description of the wig too the
week that because I liked the guy Gardner in the comics,
especially later in the comics when you get Red Ladder,
you know all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
But his look is like.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Way updated now and they've got like this eighteen eighty
two look for for him, and.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I'm like, I don't what where like that?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You couldn't even get that haircut now if you tried.
And who did you say the guy playing Superman looks
like when.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
He's Clark can he looks like Richard Iawati. Is that
the guy from Flight of the Concords.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Uh No, but he looks he also looks like that's
Richard Diaowadi there, you know he's uh looked like, Yeah,
he's a British comedian and director, an actor or whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Who's been in uh, who's been in some you know
some stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
As far as I go, if you saw the guy,
you'd know, you know who I was talking about.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I'm trying to think of what he was in.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
He was in a TV show that was fairly popular,
and I can't think of that the IT crowd, the
I T crowd. He's in that one either, though, Yeah
he was. He was Maurice Moss in that. He was
in Community for an episode. I think too if you
watch that show. But anyway, great show. I was the
Superman trailer man, like, what do you to you? It
looks like a te Is this something? I mean, I'm
gonna go see it.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Because it's James Gunn and he hasn't steered me wrong yet.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
But well, oh listen, I didn't like Suicide Squad too.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
You didn't like the you don't like the suicide the
second suicide Squad. No, I did not. It wasn't.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I mean, the first one was, uh was great in
my mind, But does it seem like this is this
kind of doing too much and it didn't really bring
the characters to life that I wanted to see in
the way that I wanted to see.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Did you watch the Peacemaker TV show?
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I watched a couple of episodes, a couple of episodes up,
but but that.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
That was kind of an enough for me.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
And once again, see, I know it seemed like I'm
kind of this comic book snob.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Blanket Ferguson, I.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Was just gonna say, Blanket Ferguson, I no longer have
the wet blanket.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Wait, don't put that title on me. Do not do that.
I'm not going to sit here and lie. You put
that on me. Well, but I have a friend in
California who is more of a comic book snob than
anyone that I know.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
And when I lived in.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
California, we would go and watch comic book movies together
with our families and he would critique every single thing
down to the color, the proper color.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Sounds like you have accurate with everything. I just think
like this is your interpretation of it. As a director,
I want to see something good, Like, for instance, when
Zack Snyder did the you.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Know, the the DC stuff just well.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Right, like I liked his whole construction of the mythos
of God versus Man and all that kind of like
it was dark.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
And I was like, okay, done. And then the w
B execs got involved in well, we went just to
be lighter and funnier and more like the MC to
the media, they screwed the whole thing up.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
If you watch the Snyder cut of way better, of course,
way better.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I'm not saying it was perfect, but I kind of
liked it.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And now there's such this it's just such this dividing
line demarcation thing, you know whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
And well, here's the thing, you know, I'm not. I'm
a comic book.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Lover, but I'm not deep into comic books where I
go through and camb through with a fine too comb.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
It doesn't have to be comics accurate to me.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yes, your interpretation, show me something that's intriguing, but but
give me with the basis of this character, but give
me something like when you think.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
About Batman, right, the Dark Knight, I mean to have
him and in that realm where he's like, what was
it George Clooney, and it made Batman look all goofy.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I didn't really like that. I mean, he's a dark knight,
so it should be dark.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
So Kristen Belle, I liked that version of a Batman,
even when Batman versus Superman. I even love, you know,
Ben Affleck portrayal a Batman, got.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
A world weary Batman, you know.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
And yeah, yeah, it's almost like eight Earth forty three Batman.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Well, I mean it was interesting to me because like
I felt like Snyder did something different with it. It
was like, I'm not trying to be a slave to
the comics here, I'm.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Trying to do something little different. Yes, I love you know.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
So he's like he's like xenophobic in a way Batman
is because he's worried that, you know, the aliens are
gonna come in and take over and all that, and
there's like you can assign sort of real world attitudes
to some of these characters. He he tried to ground it,
I think in reality, and I guess people weren't ready
for that.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
But you know, it's interesting because when you look at
DC and Marvel obviously you have characters who kind of.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
DC is grittier and darker. Yeah, yeah, it is, but
the characters somewhat kind of mimic one another.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Oh yeah, they're all like, I mean, Batman in DC
as Tony Starks.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, he's also green Arrow, but ripped off their own character.
Well well yeah, so it's a rich playboy vigilanti with
no real powers.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, just use a bullet arrow. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
I love that kind of that, that parallel, but I
was expecting a little more.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Check it out just to see it to make sure
that I'm not just I didn't see that the first
trailer and just kind of go overblown.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
But right now I just I have to say it.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
And it may just be me, but initially just look
like a typical c W show kind of.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I mean, there was there was kind of a bit
of that needs to be dark man.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, and this did not feel I mean, a gun
things don't generally feel dark, but they do like have
an element of gross to them at times.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Well and listen, this is what because that's what he
came up.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
He came up with the toxic Avenger and all that
stuff like we're he.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Lost me with the second suicide eyeball thing. It was
just it was like, come on, man, we go from
the first ones of this Senate. Yeah, you're doing too much.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Man.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You know you've been out with a guy, you know
when you were single, Right, you go out and you
try to meet some women, and just that guy who's
he's just doing too much. Yeah, I mean, that's that's
kind of what I see sometimes we're gun but I'm
I'm gonna give it an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
I'll give it an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
What do you think about Wendell Pierce as Perry White?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
No, okay, I like Prue Taylor Vance's Jonathan Kent. That's
the dad clerk kit. You don't know Prue Taylor Vance.
He's basically blind. You probably know him from a couple
of seasons of The Mentalist. Yeah, you know, and that
kind of stuff. There's been in a few movies and
stuff here or there.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
But I thought that was like, wow, that's outside the box.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
But I dig it. Yeah, but I still see Kevin Costman.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, every time, you know, are you think you think
of the dude from the Dukes of Hazard?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Did it on the TV show?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Like what you think of this like, you're just like,
that's just kind of who you think of when it
comes to those kinds.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Overall.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yeah, I'm in no practice.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It comes out to what July and next year is
still plenty of time between now and then. But it
was one of those ones where I was like, I
watched this and I'm like, I don't, I don't know,
I don't really you know, but there I've been wrong
before when they when Chris Nolan announced he was casting
Heath Ledger as Joker, I was like, you gotta be
kid me get out of here with this, the guy
from Ten Things I Hate about you?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Really, And then I was like, wow, I'm old taking
exposed on that.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
He crushed that. Oh he nailed it. I felt like
such an idiot because I was the whole time. I
was sitting there like this is gonna be terrible, and
then you show.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I saw the first trailer for it, and I was like,
oh for me, thank god the Internet doesn't exist right
now or I'd be in trouble.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Here is the thing.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
I guess for me, it's it's a bias for me
because Christopher Nolan has done a great job with a
lot of movies that he's directed, and you see movies
from a cinematic stand stands there like how he presents things,
and the cinematography is out of the out of the roof,
the acting is great, the storyline is great. But I
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guess for me, I compare other comic book directors to
him in some way that may not seem fair, but
as a movie Gore, I do that.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
It's like, I mean, have you ever done that before?
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Where I mean just kind of you see something that's
so great and from that moment on you compare everything.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Else the standard by which you can to So, yeah,
and I do believe because I like I didn't, I
didn't really.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
What was the one that they did, Brandon Ralph Superman?
You remember that one?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, Like, I didn't think it was that bad, but
it wasn't like what I was looking for. It was
it tried to ride the line too much between campy
and gritty, and they couldn't find it where it was
gonna be. No, they could, Yeah, Kelly Casey handing it up,
trying to be like Gene Hackman and then over your
head played it say.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
And I was like, I don't, you don't know what
to do? With this one.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
But I thought Henry Cavill nailed it, Like that was
so good, and I was just like, dude, like, this
is it. This is the definitive way, you know, just
like what it was when bailed at Batman.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
This is the definitive way you gotta do it. Yes,
it was. It was a movie that you wanted to
see with your kids. It wasn't too too gritty, but
it wasn't too bubbly either.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah. Right, there was some kind of character.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Motion, and for me, that's the thing that draws me
in as a moviegoer. Is there enough content where I
believe the person portraying this particular character is one believable
and then does the storyline make that particular superhero seem
to be like very human?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Yeah, because I think that's in the end what we
want to relate it to, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I mean not to get too philosophical on a sports
talk show about comic book movies in real life, but
a lot of it we look for escapism. But comic
book characters, superheroes, those kinds of things have their roots
in almost the mythology, right in religious mythology, right where
we gave Zeus Lightning bolts that he could throw, and
you know, we assigned superhuman powers to religious iconography, and
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so there's there's there's kind of a bit of that
to it, and I think finding the balance in that
while still telling a compelling story that we all still
want to.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Go seize is a fascinating concept.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
And I think that I'm glad the comic book movies
have become popular over the last fifteen twenty years. I
think that in a lot of ways, the Marvel thing
has sort of become a micfranchise. You know, that bugs
me a little bit, but I think I do think
there are compelling stories, and I do think there's a
way to still do it, and I'm hoping that James
Gunn taking over the DC universe does that.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I'm hoping that he does that the right way.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
But the thing that puts the pressure on gun is
the success that Marvel has had. And they're built up
to the characters to an ensemble cast that they put
together like an endgame. And once again, that's another thing
as a movie go or in comic book glover that
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you compare DC movies with like I read DC and Marvel,
but you have some people who just like look, they
are die hard either or and they're not going to
entertain anything from the other side.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
I did both. I was even in image comics.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I thought there was this promising book back in the
day called Wildcats, which was clearly an X Men rip off,
but they had this whole other mythology, you know, behind it,
and it was done by the same guy that you
know that did a lot of the.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
X Men stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
And so over the years there's been a bunch of
you know, there's been a bunch of that kind of stuff.
I'm fascinated to watch this. And I know we've talked
about comic books here for a half hour, but I
am fascinated to watch this. But the trailer on this one,
I don't know not what I was expecting. I guess
this is the best way to put it. The aesthetic says, hey,
this is going to be sort of campy. But they,
you know, the the the director has not really done
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camp before, except if you go all the way back
to when he was doing stuff for Trauma, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
With the Toxic Avenger back back way in the day.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
But this is where I feel sometimes studios get too
involved and they want to make it more. I guess mainstream,
but for me is like, give the fans what they want.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I mean, for years, I guess studios.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Would not make comic book type movies because they just
thought they were cheeky and cheesy.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
But they are very popular movie.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I know Martin Scorsese, he doesn't like the idea, you know,
the movie industry being taken over by comic book movies,
but it's entertaining. There's a lot of nostalgia associated with it.
And once again, your job as a studio and a
director is to give the.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
People what they want.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, and that's at the end of the day. It's
not just it's a combination of you know, telling a
story and your vision of it. But you're hoping to
give the people something that they want to continue to
that they want to continue to see.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
H Grant, you're gonna watch this? Probably not, you know,
but you're not a big movie guy anyway. I'm not
a big comic book movie fan, right, I'm kind of
like Martin Scorsese. Yeah, I do like Guardians of the Galaxy,
the whole franchise.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Well it's that guy, right, So I'll probably watch it,
but I'm not going to go to the theater just.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
To watch it and make an effort about it.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
You're more of a Tom Selleck guy's anything with a mustache, right.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Good to go. Appreciate you guys being along for the ride.
We'll be back next week on Monday.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
We've got about of prime time though coming up Monday
as well, so a little bit of a short show
then look forward to seeing you then. Broncos Country not
Kwa wet blanket all right, so wet blanket.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
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Got Next Saturday, it's Broncos and bus football and react
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
That's next Saturday, Saturday, eight p eight am. Excuse me
to midnight on KOA. We got wall to wall coverage
next Saturday, Broncos and Buffs. You guys disappointed at all
about the uh, the Buffs taken on BYU and the
Almeal Bowl and at the facto conference game, Yes, it
upsets me.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
You know, they haven't played. I'm still upset about it.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah. I was a huge problem with it.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
I mean, this was kind of a big twelve matchup
there we could have seen during the regular season. Had
things going right for the Buffs and they beat Kansas State,
I mean, I mean, excuse me, Kansas, things would have
been entirely different. But I thought the bowl games were
best suited to watch teams play out of co off
(01:00):
as teams not the same team within your conference. To me,
where where where is the glory in recruiting with that
you meet someone in your conference in a bowl game?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, to me, the Bowl.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
If Bulls are going to have any relevance whatsoever in
the playoff era, you've got to create exotic matchups that
just aren't going to occur otherwise, because that's what people.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Want to see. Right.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
You want to see Colorado taking on an SEC team
like Arkansas, Right, No, I wanted to see cam Ward
versus Sad.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Matchups like that.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Playoffs you want to see stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And so those are really the you're either marketing the
personalities or you're marketing exotic matchups that you're not otherwise
going to get. And in this case, we got a
conference matchup between Colorado and BYU. Now I imagine the
diehards will go travel and watch the game and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
But this has got to be disappointing, right, Yeah, it
is disappointing.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I listen.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I was OneD sports Zoo early in the week and
this conversation came up. I know, as a former CEU Buff,
Dave was okay with this because the Buffs had been
to a bowl game in some time, Right, me, on
the other hand, is just like, no, it just can't be. Okay,
let's just get to the bowl. I know Coach Prom
(02:14):
said that's what he wanted to do for Miss Peggy,
get her to a bowl.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Right, this is a bowl. It's not the Bowl, it's
an exhibition bowl. But it's all yes, that's all this is.
Shod Or will be playing in this one. Shoud door
Santa Stress. Of those guys, they're gonna be playing in
this bowl game. So good on, good on them for that.
What do you it's his last game at Colorado? Does
he have anything left to prove here? And what is
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his legacy at Colorado?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
At the end of the day, he cemented his legacy
as being, I'll say, one of the better quarterbacks who
playing to see U uniform. And I know there's probably
some SeeU alone probably screaming at me, but just burying
me for a second. I mean, after Cordell Stewart, I
mean things. The cover was kind of bear do you
(03:00):
think and no one was really paying attention to the
Buffs football, But Coach.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Prime came in.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Even though they only won a couple of games in
his first year, everyone was so excited about him and
able to talk to town here in Denver, Boulder and
across college football, so much so that it pissed a
couple of coaches off right that they were getting so
much press and clippings. And the second year, I mean
they took things to a whole different level. I mean
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things jumped up as far as student enrollment nils and
portal transfers. So I love what coach Primme is doing
up in Boulder. And shador really made the name of
himself so much so that he was in a Heisman conversation.
But more importantly, he's in that conversation to see, well,
(03:48):
who's going to be the top player taking in the
twenty twenty five draft other than Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
So I think he did a good job for himself.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
He doesn't have the opportunity to put his name on
the CU record books. He's not going to pass up
the yardage record. He's not going to pass up Montes
or le Foul or to even get close because those
guys had multiple years to be able to do it.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I had four years to be able to do it,
rather in Shadoro had two.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
But if he does throw for two touchdown passes one
touchdown pass would tie him with Steven Montes and Cody
Hawkins for the all time touchdown passes for Colorado. Two
would give him sole possessorship of the lead in total
touchdown passes.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Well, Colorado, listen, I am not the one that played
the ponies. But I will go out on the limb
and say, well, I'll take the over on that one,
and he throws two or more.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yes, I'll take that over.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Okay, Yeah, Because he currently has sixty two touchdown passes
at CEU, whereas Cody Hawkins and Steven Montese each have
sixty three. The big difference between those three quarterbacks. Schaudor
finishes his career right now, one game left, obviously with
eleven interceptions. Cody Hawkins had forty three and Steven Montes
had thirty three, both those two, of course, playing four
full seasons.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I did not believe that co Tody.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Hawkins was tied for the lead in touchdown passes.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I did not believe that until I saw it.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Well, when you said Hawkins and you mentioned Montes.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I was just like n But I did not know
Cody Hawkins was there, and.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I think Montes was up there in that particular way.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
But good for him, Good for him. But this is
the challenges you want in any collegiate program, right, they say,
Well the cliche saying records are meant to be broken,
but you want something to kind of really challenge guys.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I mean you go with a look across the field
and you.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
See your opponent and you think that gets you up
to go and play on a week to week basis.
But knowing as though you were competing with guys who've
come before you playing in your same position and you're
trying to outdo them as well, to me, that adds
something extra to the mix.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, I you know, remembering the career of Cody Hawkins,
that is not what I would have thought.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
The interceptions I absolutely believed, but I did not tell you.
I did not believe he led see you where it
was tied for the lead. Rather it's you in touchdown
st Stepha Lee Fowl was the other guys that makes
the four of them that are above fifty. None that
nobody else's close. Joe Klatt has forty six. It would
be next on the list. Uh As we look at
uh this, shador And and Dion had some words to
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say on anything.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
About your legacy what's your legacy as a Buff.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I was able to turn everything around and get everything
back on the right track on how it was in
the past, and uh.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Just bringing Colorado back to the glory days.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
You know, it's funny just I remember coming in and
reading some of the stuff and hearing like nepotism. You know,
why would you have your son playing quarterback? We're like,
you must you couldn't have watched the film. We couldn't
watched tape to understand like what we have on the
roster and what he brings to the table. And I'm
glad everything was said, everything was done with everything worked
out accordingly, like it like it did.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
It was like his the record says, it's perfect timing.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
But just to flip the whole thought process of Buff
football and Buff Nation, it has been incredible. I mean,
we've had some young men on the team and his
roster in that locker room, his teammates said, even came
from Jackson that are truly responsible for changing the whole
mindset of who we are.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Shador led the conference in completions, yards, touchdowns, yards per game,
and rating. He led the FBS and completion percentage this
past year, and his career is the all time FBS
career leader in completion percentage at seventy one point eight percent.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Although he did finish as thirteen and ten.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
As a starter.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Part of that, I think is building up from a
program that started. You know, they took over the head
one win, but thirteen and ten as a starter with
one win against a ranked opponent, is that disappointment.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
That was not not for me in my eyes.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Because let's go back to where CU was before Chador
or Prime came to Boulder with his nepotism. Right, No,
no one really cared at about what was going on
in Boulder.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
We knew there was a team there, he had some.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Uniforms, they had a field, but no one.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Really, no one would cared about CU football. That program
was ostensibly dead.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Yes, And if you've been out to a game at
Folsom Field over these past two years, whether the Buffs
won the game or not, it was one of those
places that you had to be, like on a Saturday
afternoon or Saturday night, you know, it was one of
those places that you needed to be. And so that
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was right when it comes to his legacy, coming here,
just trying to make his mark change the perception of
Buffs football, but also leave it in a good space
where now he can move on and he can say, well,
I came from Jackson State, me and my father with
this idea of making waves and head waves in college football,
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and no one really believed us. Everyone was just kind
of looking down on us from a negative standpoint. But
we changed college football. And I would say, even though
to see you, Buffs have not in the college football
playoffs per se, They've essentially change buzz football and how.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
We look at them.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well, yeah, I mean it is a culturally, it is
a mecca right now. It is the center point of
college football. It's interesting to me some of the criticisms
that he gets that aren't Levy and other coaches that
may have done the same thing Chrit Signetty. By the way,
in Indiana playing Notre Dame took thirty kids out of
the portal. Miniana doesn't get dinged for taking thirty kids
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out of the portal? Is that just because Dion was
the first one through.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
The door on that?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
You know what is the reason here that we're all
bashing Dion for using the portal like that and we're
all praising Indiana for.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
The turnaround that they had. We know what that is,
man nepotism. We've seen that to see you before.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I just mentioned the guy Cody Hawkins, Hawkins's son.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I mean, but we've seen nepotism all over the place.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
You look at any line of work.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Well yeah, yeah, it's both though, it's a nepotism. But
it's one thing to say you're going to do something.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
And talk a good talk. Now you got to get
out there and walk the walk, and.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
The bus really did that, primarily do that, and he
really changed the culture and reshaped once again, not just
see you football, well, in my opinion, college football as
a whole, because one guy had so many coaches pissed
off at him based on the level of publicity and
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news covers that his team, him and his team were
receiving opposed to those coaches who had been in the
college game for longer than coach prime.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And of course it was interesting when he got into coaching,
as you're talking about a coach with no coaching experience
or any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Obviously has the playing experience.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
They didn't have the coaching experience, you know, and by
and large experience success early specifically down at the you know,
the HBC level, but you know, it looks like they're
building something at Colorado.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Will see.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm interested to see the next chapter without and what
his investment is without his son's here. I'm interested to
see if that changes anything, that changes him at all.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
I am interested to see that.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Angle of it as far as you know the rest
of it goes.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Where does the CU program go from here?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You know, I mean you brought in now the kid
from Liberty, You've got the recruit, you got Juju. The
recruit that you got in gonna be a QB battle
for that. And you've got a an NC doua A
or a college football landscape that has seen what he's
done in pulling things out of the transfer portal.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
And are adopting those himself.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Now there's competition in the marketplace, does that erode some
of his ability to be able to do what he
does or as the originator, does that make that more desirable.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
It is the same with what coach Prime will do
and who he is, and that that has been established
long time ago. It's going back to where he was
returning kicks for Bobby Boden in Florida, State, and he
had the Jerry Curl.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Glow.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
He had.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Yes. And I know the new term that the kids
used now is called drip. No, that was the drip back.
The literal dri literally drip exactly, get up off your
sofa and leave a stain. But he's been that same
person since those days, being a great self promoter and
being able to go out there and promote himself, his coaches,
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the equipment staff, the medical staff that came with him
from Jackson State. This is the one thing I love
about Coach Prime because he's one of those guys that
he's going.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
To keep people employed.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Right, as long as c U continues to do well,
he's going to keep people around him employed. And he's
employing the right people. He's creating the right culture that's
around him. So I don't see see you football going down.
I just see the trending arrow trending up for them.
Because even though Shador is not going to be there,
(13:15):
Travis Hunter is not going to be there, all I
still are going to be on Bolder because everyone wants
to see what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Well, that is the thing.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Who's the next personality steps up? You imported shador A,
Travis Hunter. The story came with them. Maybe they were
top recruits. You had him come down to the HBCU level.
Now you're approven that you were doing it at the
FBS level. The question is who's the next personality on
the field here at Colorado because coach prime as the
coach just compelling as that is, is not moving the needle.
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If they're not winning games or they're not putting up
statistical you know, they're not having statistical production at which
someone can invest in, whether that's a Heisman.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Candidate and an NFL draft pick whatever.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Well, the idea is that for me, Ben is the
art of the sale ry. Can you be a salesman? Right?
I'm not talking about a door to door salesman. I'm
not talking about a car salesman. No, no, no, no.
I'm talking about someone can you sell yourself? And where
I come from in Florida and a promise for Florida too.
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And I don't know if you guys have heard the same,
but it's always said that you need to have.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
The gift of gab.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Right, you got to have the gift to gap, You
have to have the ability to sell water too well,
and Coach Prime has that and as long as he
has that personality, everything else will come along. Players are
going to say, I want to play there after seeing
what happened with Travis Hunter, and he's he gave Travis
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the ability to play both sides because he knew that.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
And he believed in him.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
More players who have that ability going to say, you
know what, Coach Prime, if you're gonna allow me to
play both ways, I'm coming.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
To see you come there. You get an advantage of that.
You do have to be a bit of a car
salesman to be a head coach anyway. That's what recruiting
is a good car.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Not all of them are. Not all of them are.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Not all of them are good car salesmen, but you
get the idea.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
This has encouraged other programs to take a look at
hiring former athletes with no coaching experience. Norfolk State this
week hired Michael Vick as their new head coach. Do
we expect any success out of Norfolk State because of
Michael Vick?
Speaker 5 (15:29):
I would say right away, once again, it's all about
can you motivate players who go out there and play
outside of themselves, because that's.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
What coaching is.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Whether you play the game or you didn't, can a
coach is still in you that Hey, there's a brick
wall right there.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
It is four layers thick. Now.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I know physically everything tells me you can't run through
that wall.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
But if you can inspire a guy that much.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
As a coach and getting run through that wall, and
I hope that Michael Vick is able.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
To do that, Yeah, that's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And I wonder what the attention is going to be
on Norfolk State this week just because of Michael Vick
at the head coach position, if that will bring them
attention to a previous you know, program that didn't have
a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Rocco's Country tonight. We'll be back after this.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
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Gunn the guy who did the Guardians of the Galaxy
as do we.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yes, I have and I have some thoughts. I have
some thoughts. Well give me give me first and foremost,
give me your thoughts. First. Well, first of.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
All, I don't like we're having the dog in there,
We're having Crypto in there, Like Crypto isn't pumping.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Enough over there with Bitcoin.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Now we got the dog, you know, I like, there's
there's a It felt like it was doing too much.
There was like so many characters and there for those
of you who don't know Comic lawd that's got Guy
Gardner in there. It's got mister Terrific in there. You
see Hawk Girl in There's so there's like a ton
going on.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
It was weird.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Like the guy who's doing the actor looks like Richard
Iowaani when he's Clark Kent and then looks like Henry
Cavill when he's Superman, which you know, cool for the
transition there, but he looks like a like a like
a stoned out dork as U as Clark Kent. And
then they got they got this this wig on Nathan
phill Yon for those of you who don't know Nathan
Fillion as he's on the rookie.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
He was in my favorite ever TV show, Firefly.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
He he has this wig on.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It looks like he's a reject from a knockoff he
Man movie in nineteen eighty two. Uh as as Guy
Gardner in there, and I like the Guy Gardner in
the comic. He's kind of a he's kind of a
d bag, but he's like, he's not that.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Kind of you know whatever, And so you know, I
don't know, there's a there's a lot going on here.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
And I it didn't look like I don't know. I'm
gonna I'm gonna give.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
James gun the benefit of the doubt because he hasn't
done me wrong yet.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
But the trailer I was super met.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I wasn't overly excited about it. I know, it's kind
of a Superman reboot.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
For me.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
When you rebooting a series like this that, in my opinion,
that was really successful with Henry Cavell as the Man
of Steel.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I thought that you're gonna, like jay Z, let.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Me reintroduce myself and we need to learn this character.
Really gets to know this character through the eyes of
James Gunn's direction, and for me, introducing so many characters
you love the idea of introducing more characters, but at
the same time, I want to see what his version
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Superman by himself, standalone carrier, stand long character being able
to carry the movie.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
And I have to.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Say when I watched it, and I watched it several times,
I couldn't help but think that visually it just looks
like a CW television so just kind of a regular
DC CW television show.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, for those of you who don't know, David corn Sweat
is the actor who's playing Superman.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
This may not know who he is.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
He played a little bit in House of Cards. I'm
trying to think of other things, but he was a
little bit in the movie Twisters. He was in there
for a second, but not really a well known actor
as far as that that stuff goes. Yeah, I did
did have kind of a field to that was just
kind of I don't know. It did feel a bit
small scale, you know what I mean, Like there was
a lot happening, but then it felt like something that
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you could see on TV.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And not maybe at a movie theater. Grant, have you
seen the trailer?
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Just watched him?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay, I did like Nicholas Holt look as Lex Luthor.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, I like him as Yeah, I liked him as
an actor.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
There's some things I haven't liked to me in, Like
I didn't like him what was he an X Man?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I think it was.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I didn't like him as Beast the Next Man it was.
But I liked him in that, uh that Russian you
know I'm talking about on Hulu. He was the king
in that Russian show. It He's so great that. Yeah, Kate,
what is it called I'm remember in the grade or something.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yes, he's so good in that.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
But I liked his look as Lex Luthor here, although
he actually looks.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Like the lead character from the hit Man video game
kind of as well.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, I love your description of the wig too the
week that because I liked the guy Gardner in the comics,
especially later in the comics when you get Red Ladder,
you know all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
But his look is like.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Way updated now and they've got like this eighteen eighty
two look for for him, and.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I'm like, I don't what where like that?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You couldn't even get that haircut now if you tried.
And who did you say the guy playing Superman looks
like when.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
He's Clark can he looks like Richard Iawati. Is that
the guy from Flight of the Concords.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Uh No, but he looks he also looks like that's
Richard Diaowadi there, you know he's uh looked like, Yeah,
he's a British comedian and director, an actor or whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Who's been in uh, who's been in some you know
some stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
As far as I go, if you saw the guy,
you'd know, you know who I was talking about.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I'm trying to think of what he was in.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
He was in a TV show that was fairly popular,
and I can't think of that the IT crowd, the
I T crowd. He's in that one either, though, Yeah
he was. He was Maurice Moss in that. He was
in Community for an episode. I think too if you
watch that show. But anyway, great show. I was the
Superman trailer man, like, what do you to you? It
looks like a te Is this something? I mean, I'm
gonna go see it.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Because it's James Gunn and he hasn't steered me wrong yet.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
But well, oh listen, I didn't like Suicide Squad too.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
You didn't like the you don't like the suicide the
second suicide Squad. No, I did not. It wasn't.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I mean, the first one was, uh was great in
my mind, But does it seem like this is this
kind of doing too much and it didn't really bring
the characters to life that I wanted to see in
the way that I wanted to see.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Did you watch the Peacemaker TV show?
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I watched a couple of episodes, a couple of episodes up,
but but that.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
That was kind of an enough for me.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
And once again, see, I know it seemed like I'm
kind of this comic book snob.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Blanket Ferguson, I.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Was just gonna say, Blanket Ferguson, I no longer have
the wet blanket.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Wait, don't put that title on me. Do not do that.
I'm not going to sit here and lie. You put
that on me. Well, but I have a friend in
California who is more of a comic book snob than
anyone that I know.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
And when I lived in.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
California, we would go and watch comic book movies together
with our families and he would critique every single thing
down to the color, the proper color.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Sounds like you have accurate with everything. I just think
like this is your interpretation of it. As a director,
I want to see something good, Like, for instance, when
Zack Snyder did the you.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Know, the the DC stuff just well.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Right, like I liked his whole construction of the mythos
of God versus Man and all that kind of like
it was dark.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
And I was like, okay, done. And then the w
B execs got involved in well, we went just to
be lighter and funnier and more like the MC to
the media, they screwed the whole thing up.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
If you watch the Snyder cut of way better, of course,
way better.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I'm not saying it was perfect, but I kind of
liked it.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And now there's such this it's just such this dividing
line demarcation thing, you know whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
And well, here's the thing, you know, I'm not. I'm
a comic book.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Lover, but I'm not deep into comic books where I
go through and camb through with a fine too comb.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
It doesn't have to be comics accurate to me.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yes, your interpretation, show me something that's intriguing, but but
give me with the basis of this character, but give
me something like when you think.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
About Batman, right, the Dark Knight, I mean to have
him and in that realm where he's like, what was
it George Clooney, and it made Batman look all goofy.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I didn't really like that. I mean, he's a dark knight,
so it should be dark.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
So Kristen Belle, I liked that version of a Batman,
even when Batman versus Superman. I even love, you know,
Ben Affleck portrayal a Batman, got.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
A world weary Batman, you know.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
And yeah, yeah, it's almost like eight Earth forty three Batman.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Well, I mean it was interesting to me because like
I felt like Snyder did something different with it. It
was like, I'm not trying to be a slave to
the comics here, I'm.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Trying to do something little different. Yes, I love you know.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
So he's like he's like xenophobic in a way Batman
is because he's worried that, you know, the aliens are
gonna come in and take over and all that, and
there's like you can assign sort of real world attitudes
to some of these characters. He he tried to ground it,
I think in reality, and I guess people weren't ready
for that.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
But you know, it's interesting because when you look at
DC and Marvel obviously you have characters who kind of.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
DC is grittier and darker. Yeah, yeah, it is, but
the characters somewhat kind of mimic one another.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Oh yeah, they're all like, I mean, Batman in DC
as Tony Starks.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, he's also green Arrow, but ripped off their own character.
Well well yeah, so it's a rich playboy vigilanti with
no real powers.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, just use a bullet arrow. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
I love that kind of that, that parallel, but I
was expecting a little more.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Check it out just to see it to make sure
that I'm not just I didn't see that the first
trailer and just kind of go overblown.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
But right now I just I have to say it.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
And it may just be me, but initially just look
like a typical c W show kind of.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I mean, there was there was kind of a bit
of that needs to be dark man.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, and this did not feel I mean, a gun
things don't generally feel dark, but they do like have
an element of gross to them at times.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Well and listen, this is what because that's what he
came up.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
He came up with the toxic Avenger and all that
stuff like we're he.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Lost me with the second suicide eyeball thing. It was
just it was like, come on, man, we go from
the first ones of this Senate. Yeah, you're doing too much.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Man.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You know you've been out with a guy, you know
when you were single, Right, you go out and you
try to meet some women, and just that guy who's
he's just doing too much. Yeah, I mean, that's that's
kind of what I see sometimes we're gun but I'm
I'm gonna give it an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
I'll give it an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
What do you think about Wendell Pierce as Perry White?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
No, okay, I like Prue Taylor Vance's Jonathan Kent. That's
the dad clerk kit. You don't know Prue Taylor Vance.
He's basically blind. You probably know him from a couple
of seasons of The Mentalist. Yeah, you know, and that
kind of stuff. There's been in a few movies and
stuff here or there.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
But I thought that was like, wow, that's outside the box.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
But I dig it. Yeah, but I still see Kevin Costman.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, every time, you know, are you think you think
of the dude from the Dukes of Hazard?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Did it on the TV show?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Like what you think of this like, you're just like,
that's just kind of who you think of when it
comes to those kinds.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Overall.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yeah, I'm in no practice.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It comes out to what July and next year is
still plenty of time between now and then. But it
was one of those ones where I was like, I
watched this and I'm like, I don't, I don't know,
I don't really you know, but there I've been wrong
before when they when Chris Nolan announced he was casting
Heath Ledger as Joker, I was like, you gotta be
kid me get out of here with this, the guy
from Ten Things I Hate about you?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Really, And then I was like, wow, I'm old taking
exposed on that.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
He crushed that. Oh he nailed it. I felt like
such an idiot because I was the whole time. I
was sitting there like this is gonna be terrible, and
then you show.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I saw the first trailer for it, and I was like,
oh for me, thank god the Internet doesn't exist right
now or I'd be in trouble.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Here is the thing.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
I guess for me, it's it's a bias for me
because Christopher Nolan has done a great job with a
lot of movies that he's directed, and you see movies
from a cinematic stand stands there like how he presents things,
and the cinematography is out of the out of the roof,
the acting is great, the storyline is great. But I
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guess for me, I compare other comic book directors to
him in some way that may not seem fair, but
as a movie Gore, I do that.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
It's like, I mean, have you ever done that before?
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Where I mean just kind of you see something that's
so great and from that moment on you compare everything.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Else the standard by which you can to So, yeah,
and I do believe because I like I didn't, I
didn't really.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
What was the one that they did, Brandon Ralph Superman?
You remember that one?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, Like, I didn't think it was that bad, but
it wasn't like what I was looking for. It was
it tried to ride the line too much between campy
and gritty, and they couldn't find it where it was
gonna be. No, they could, Yeah, Kelly Casey handing it up,
trying to be like Gene Hackman and then over your
head played it say.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
And I was like, I don't, you don't know what
to do? With this one.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
But I thought Henry Cavill nailed it, Like that was
so good, and I was just like, dude, like, this
is it. This is the definitive way, you know, just
like what it was when bailed at Batman.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
This is the definitive way you gotta do it. Yes,
it was. It was a movie that you wanted to
see with your kids. It wasn't too too gritty, but
it wasn't too bubbly either.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah. Right, there was some kind of character.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Motion, and for me, that's the thing that draws me
in as a moviegoer. Is there enough content where I
believe the person portraying this particular character is one believable
and then does the storyline make that particular superhero seem
to be like very human?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Yeah, because I think that's in the end what we
want to relate it to, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I mean not to get too philosophical on a sports
talk show about comic book movies in real life, but
a lot of it we look for escapism. But comic
book characters, superheroes, those kinds of things have their roots
in almost the mythology, right in religious mythology, right where
we gave Zeus Lightning bolts that he could throw, and
you know, we assigned superhuman powers to religious iconography, and
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so there's there's there's kind of a bit of that
to it, and I think finding the balance in that
while still telling a compelling story that we all still
want to.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Go seize is a fascinating concept.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
And I think that I'm glad the comic book movies
have become popular over the last fifteen twenty years. I
think that in a lot of ways, the Marvel thing
has sort of become a micfranchise. You know, that bugs
me a little bit, but I think I do think
there are compelling stories, and I do think there's a
way to still do it, and I'm hoping that James
Gunn taking over the DC universe does that.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I'm hoping that he does that the right way.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
But the thing that puts the pressure on gun is
the success that Marvel has had. And they're built up
to the characters to an ensemble cast that they put
together like an endgame. And once again, that's another thing
as a movie go or in comic book glover that
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you compare DC movies with like I read DC and Marvel,
but you have some people who just like look, they
are die hard either or and they're not going to
entertain anything from the other side.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
I did both. I was even in image comics.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I thought there was this promising book back in the
day called Wildcats, which was clearly an X Men rip off,
but they had this whole other mythology, you know, behind it,
and it was done by the same guy that you
know that did a lot of the.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
X Men stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
And so over the years there's been a bunch of
you know, there's been a bunch of that kind of stuff.
I'm fascinated to watch this. And I know we've talked
about comic books here for a half hour, but I
am fascinated to watch this. But the trailer on this one,
I don't know not what I was expecting. I guess
this is the best way to put it. The aesthetic says, hey,
this is going to be sort of campy. But they,
you know, the the the director has not really done
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camp before, except if you go all the way back
to when he was doing stuff for Trauma, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
With the Toxic Avenger back back way in the day.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
But this is where I feel sometimes studios get too
involved and they want to make it more. I guess mainstream,
but for me is like, give the fans what they want.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I mean, for years, I guess studios.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Would not make comic book type movies because they just
thought they were cheeky and cheesy.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
But they are very popular movie.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I know Martin Scorsese, he doesn't like the idea, you know,
the movie industry being taken over by comic book movies,
but it's entertaining. There's a lot of nostalgia associated with it.
And once again, your job as a studio and a
director is to give the.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
People what they want.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, and that's at the end of the day. It's
not just it's a combination of you know, telling a
story and your vision of it. But you're hoping to
give the people something that they want to continue to
that they want to continue to see.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
H Grant, you're gonna watch this? Probably not, you know,
but you're not a big movie guy anyway. I'm not
a big comic book movie fan, right, I'm kind of
like Martin Scorsese. Yeah, I do like Guardians of the Galaxy,
the whole franchise.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Well it's that guy, right, So I'll probably watch it,
but I'm not going to go to the theater just.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
To watch it and make an effort about it.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
You're more of a Tom Selleck guy's anything with a mustache, right.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Good to go. Appreciate you guys being along for the ride.
We'll be back next week on Monday.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
We've got about of prime time though coming up Monday
as well, so a little bit of a short show
then look forward to seeing you then. Broncos Country not
Kwa wet blanket all right, so wet blanket.
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