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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Big show tonight. We've got Parker Gabriel coming up in
the eight o'clock hour. Ryan Mike, We're gonna go inside
the numbers with us at seven o five. We started
all off with my guy Nick Ferguson in the Hall
of Famer, Steve Atwater.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Steve, how are you? Man?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Ah? Man, I'm doing all right. Don't sound I get
down in the dump. Come on, oh man, I'm not
down in the dumps. I'm just what you sound like?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Sound like?
Speaker 5 (00:30):
You know what he sounded like, you know on Sesame
Street what it was? A snuffle off iguins.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Hello bird? What's going on? You make it sound fly
to you? Yes? Do it?
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Am I right?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I am right?
Speaker 6 (00:47):
Not as good as it would have been if we
got a dumb bud, you know, of course, if we
would have made it twelve in a row, would been
a little easier to go with.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Go today on a Monday.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
But you know what, man, I think that the more
games that you win in a row, the pressure just
builds unnecessarily well unnecessarily well.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Okay, see if that would be true, Steve, if it
was outside of Denver, Colorado, or if you were not
playing for the Steelers or the Packers on a big,
big market. You a big fan playing here in Denver.
You and I both know this. The elevation of pressure
just kind of goes up. I don't ask fifty two eighties,
(01:30):
but I don't.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
Even think it's I think it's more so the self
pressure that the players put on themselves, because and the coaches,
the whole nine yards. Because I remember Man nineteen ninety eight. Bro,
we were thirteen and oho going into New York to
play the Giants.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And we're like, Bro, we might be fourteen and after
the game.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
And that was in the back of our minds, even
though we really didn't talk about it much. But Bro's
that's just an add way that you don't need. Well,
if this is to the game playing, all the adjustments
you gotta make, you gotta tack away, you gotta do
all these different things. Then you think about, Bro, if
we do this, we're gonna be fote, right.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
But that's initially that's part of the game, right that
the stress.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Okay, just like coach once told me, the pressure is
a privilege.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
There are not too many teams right now that are
sitting with that elevated level of pressure.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So they have no idea, think about this.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
The Cleveland Browns in their franchise history, only knows about
that level of pressure. Maybe a handful of years right
outside of that Bernie cozaar and you know when John
l Way just killed them with the drive, just kind
of just just broke the franchise.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
They don't know what pressure is. They have no idea.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
So playing here in Denver, playing at home where you
you're you're undefeated, you were seven and oh, crowd, yes,
bring you bring in a winning street like eleven twelve game.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
I'm not I'm not saying that it's a good thing
that we lost.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, well, see, I
know you're not saying that.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Yeah, I'm just saying, though you could as a positive
way of looking at it, like, okay, well that's one
last thing we got to think about. You know, we
want to have to think about the street. Yeah, I
want to think about this long Winter Street. Now we
just start back over and you can you can build
written now, Okay, go ahead, take it from Mayor.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Remember when we were on Grant last week and that
question came up, and I told you there's an eighty
twenty in that locker room. You may have eighty percent
of the guys may not think about it, but there's
a twenty percent of the guys who are probably thinking
about of the pressure, the number one seed and all
of this. Because coach Payton said he came out and said, well, well,
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here's my three things in order right when the division.
Then he said be the number one seed and then
win the super Bowl in that particular order. So I'm
guessing I got them right. So I don't think he's
gonna call my name out in the press conference that
Nick Ferguson got it incorrect. But that's the pressure associated
with where you are. And just because you lost to
(04:05):
the Jacksonville Jaguars, that pressure doesn't stop. Because you're on
a short week. You still have Kansas City, you still
have the charge.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's one last thing you got to think about. Well
is it not. I'm gonna say no, it is man.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I'm gonna say no, Steve, because that's the one last
thing you got to think about. But that's that sounds
like you're saying that it's okay that they know, not
that it's okay, but good thing they lost to now
take their pressure.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
No, No, No, I didn't say that at all.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Okay, I just said, Okay, obviously you want to win
every football game. Everyone everybody does. Yes, I never had
a perfect season. You ever had a perfect season? Okay,
Well when it happens, you know, we we probably figured
they wouldn't win every game, every single game. Well, I
know we had the two losses to start with. But
(05:00):
I just feel like that's just one less thing that
the players have to think about it. They just want
one less distraction, unnecessary distract, I think.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Okay, I feel as though they're gonna think about this anyway.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Short, we could not think they lost the game. Yes,
well okay, think about think about all the things this
game is that's done.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Yes, but you one, I know, like I go back
to what I said, Grant, there's an eighty twenty rule.
Some guys can turn the page. Some guys can't. And
here's why. Because those guys who did not play well,
those who drop balls, those who miss tackles, those who
missed assignments.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Those guys.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
You would like to think that, Okay, Short, we turn
the page. The coaches are telling them to turn the page.
But mentally we know this as a player. Sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Happen as quickly as you would like for it to happen.
But it's gonna have to happen.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You don't have a choice. You have no choice.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
But I don't want to call anybody, almost call someone
out by name, man boy, let me tell you. Let
me stop it. I'm sorry I almost did, but I
can't do it. There's certain players that I know. We're
gonna have a hard time forgetting what happened on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
That's okay, don't forget my Thursday. Well, well, I.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Think that's the benefit of the short weekend.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Yeah, you hope so, because now you're thinking about another opponent.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
They may not think about that current opponent until they're
actually on the flight headed to Kansas City, right, Yes, they.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Gonna think about winning the mid room when they got
to make all the adjustments based off what the Kansaity
chiefs do, not what.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Steve's already forgotten already.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
But here's the Steve wasn't on the field. Steve didn't
miss an assignment.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Steve didn't drop a ball, right, Steve didn't miss a tackle.
So that's why it's easier for Steve or myself or
anyone else to say, I would like to forget it,
but I'm telling you, being a player, right, you're supposed
to move on. But there's just certain plays when the
coaches playing and go over them, and as they're correcting things,
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you replay that moment.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
In your head.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Here's how I could have made a play to change
the trajectory.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Of the score of the game.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So you're saying, when you were playing, you're you a
bad play from the previous game would stick with you
into the next game, into the following weeks.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Yes, that's that issue would be in my head, and
I had to remove it in the way that I
only removed it. I need to go into that next game,
and I needed to play better.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Case in point.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
One time we played Kansas City on Monday night football
and I had sixty yards of penalties by myself.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Damn, damn.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Pivot. But it's bad enough that I had to deal
with it. But give me the day with the capitold.
So I came into the facility. I wasn't even coming
to pick up my check. I was going to work
out and watch the film. You was going to make
sure that joke still worked. Yes, I came in on
Tuesday to make sure my name prompt to stand there
(08:13):
and he said, Nick Ferguson right, and they had moved
it and there was another box or a garbage bag
there in my locker.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
And why are all these safeties working out too?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Because you know I always come in on Tuesday just
to see what what group was working out. I ran
into uh David Gibbs, who's my DV coach, and he
said this to me. He said, I hope you're not
going upstairs to pick up your check because you didn't
earn it.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Damn yes. So you got to back up to the
window and I don't even looked at it.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Look you know what, but.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Hit your arm out behind you.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
In your hand.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
No.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
So so for about three weeks I didn't go pick
up my check till I felt that I earned it
on the field.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
That's cap No, that's real talk, that's real.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
I wasn't doing direct deposit. No, come on, I want
a pay per check. I want to see all my money. No, no,
direct department.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Unfortunately it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
That's then was.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Really small, but real talk.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I didn't pick up my check for three weeks because
what he said to me impinged on me. Because I
felt as though I did not earn my check that week.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So I said, until I feel as.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Though I earned my check, I'm not gonna go pick
it up.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Or because of your play both dang both.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
And and And that was affirmation from him telling me
that don't go pick it up. You didn't earn it.
And I was crushed. So every day for about three weeks,
I was all over my game plan. Not that not
as though I wasn't before, but I was all on
it because I'm like David Gibbs or anyone else.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
They're never gonna tell me that again.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
So it sounds like you worked a little hard after
you got on you.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, I was already working on sound like tough coaching.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Right, So I mean, I mean, David gibbson, it's as
tough as they come, trust me.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
But did you hear did you hear PS two talking
about because he's kind of kind of saying the same
thing you did that this could have been, you know,
the wake up call that the Broncos needed.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
This is what he had to say post game, he
shout out.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Soon now they executed, you know, they made it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
The plays that he needed to make. But I said
at least not gonna be that easy. I mean, I
leven winning straight, that's a pretty impressive feat. But you know,
I think this was wake up you know this and
that you know look back on backs.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
You know, kind of hitting the reset button.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
And to your credits of your podcast, there were a
couple of guys, probably ticket for granted, they probably said,
look at our home winning streak, Look how well we're
playing throughout the season. Look at what is in front
of us, right, And they didn't attack the game. They
didn't attack execution and fundamentals the same way that they
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have attacked and week week prior weeks.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
That's a possibility.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Because we are all human, we all flawed, and we
all treachers.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
That happened, so I've seen it happen in my career.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
No, man, see in your career, have you've never seen
a couple of guys just kind of like not really
prepare the way that they should.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
And it could be different because the errors of football
and also who was coaching you? Yeah, I mean you.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Could tell we tell the meetings or in practice locked in?
Oh yeah you were locked in, bro, You keep missing
the call. You just we just went over this five times.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
See it took whoever that was, it took them five times?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
What was that when we're doing practice though, yes, it wasn't.
Wed have to wait till we got to the games.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
And I remember early on in my career we would
get like little tests, like all right, all the adjustments,
because that was one of the biggest things for us,
is making sure we communicate and which adjustments to make
because you don't make those adjustments, especially with somebody go
in motion to come back and oh you can't be quiet, Yes,
(12:14):
let the guy know what's going on, and uh, but
you know, once you got that part squareway, we're good.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
But see, what's a gatting when you're speaking of.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Is something that that happens and stands out mostly on
defense opposed to offense, because when there's a breakdown in
communication and protection, there's there's a sack, there's a breakdown
in communication in the secondary, there's an explosive. And that
was one of the issues that I've seen watching the
Broncos team. It's not something that happens all the time,
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but it says at the moments that it does happen.
Because I know football, I see it and I'm going,
like those two guys didn't communicate right, because anytime, if
you want to know, when you see two.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Guys stand in the end zone, they got their hands up,
what my fault is your fault?
Speaker 5 (13:03):
There's two guys at en zone, they try to figure
out whose fault it is.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Well, how big of a reason, you know, because we
saw the Drags have a bunch of explosive plays.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I think they had like.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Eight plays over twenty yards and the rest of the game,
you know, the defense pretty much held them in check,
but it was those big plays. How much of the
absence of Brandon Jones factored into that, you know, the
back end of the secondary. Who's communicating some of those
things to the rest of the secondary.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I'm going to say it plays a huge role because
just think.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
About it this way.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
When you have Brandon Jones and telling on her Funga,
they've been playing together in the secondary since training. If
you get a chance to know a person inside and out,
there's a verbal communication, then there's a non verbal communication.
You moved that guy out, That's like someone's ying your
right hand behind your back and said, okay, go fight,
Mike Tyson, come trouble. You were in trouble, so when
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you insert other guys in the lineup, even though they're
working or they're trying to work cohesively in practice, it
is still not the same in the game. In game
time because guess what this crowd noise. You know how
loud it was.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You could you could see it on the TV broadcast.
Their camera's shaking, and Dave and Rick both on our
broadcast said, this is the loudest I've heard the stadium
in over a decade.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I remember being up in the press box and this
lady she was she put the.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Camera on the on the water water Jurassic Park. Yeah,
that's going on here. So so factor that crowd.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Noise in and insert someone else into the lineup, like
maybe PJ.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Lock who hadn't been there in a while. It takes
time to.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Tiny to kind of get that fluidity, even though you're saying, well,
here's a guy who should know the scheme and you
probably can talk to them, but then it goes down
from communication.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
To now execution right. And I'm not singling out PJ.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Lot, but there was a lot of disconnect when it
came to tackling right.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And that's the one thing defensively, you have to know
how to do.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
You have to know where other players are on the field,
and that was the part for me that I.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Was disappointed in seeing the poor tackling and how much
of it. Yeah, that is is kind of frustrating, you know.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Uh, losing containers is frustrating, you know, having the guy
run up to make a tackle and there's another guy outside
of him and he overruns them and not both y'all outside. Yes,
you know, I don't understand what you're saying. This the
space shial, the word is knowing where you're, where you're,
where your teammates are.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Man, that's uh, that's huge. You know.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I thought Riley Moss played pretty good in coverage.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
During the game, but like you guys were just talking about,
he messed a couple of tackles that you just don't
see him normally miss.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Some of that reason, some of that is also, Hey,
sometimes you get that they call it athlete too.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You know, sometimes you got exceptional.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Athletes that may plays making HTN bro that boy he
plays the ball.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Yes see, I knew, well I watched ETN when he
was in at Yes, well you can call him alien
if you want to too as well.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
But that that dude was very explosive.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Even though he only finished the game with the fifty yards.
You can see on every single run he was coming
downhill with power. And Parker I think, is Parker Washington.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Numbering eleven the receivers that return guy too, right, Yeah,
he's slippery.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah, he's like Deebo Samuel like standing on the field
seeing him.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
He's a thick guy.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
And what Steve is saying, it's true, like sometimes you
can have a perfect angle and the guy's just going
to outrun your a if he wants to get outside,
he's getting outside.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Well, there's that one play that was just like I
think it was a third down and it was just
like a five yard out route by him, and Riley
Moss whiffed on him, and then Huff missed him too,
And I was like, I've never seen that from both
of them missing a tackle on the same play.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
But maybe you're right, maybe it was just how athleted.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
And I also think that, like that's why the divisions
are so difficult, because you've played against these guys, you kind.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Of know them.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
You know they're not gonna come with anything, you know,
you know they're athletes pretty much. But when you play
somebody out of your division. You don't know how you're
gonna match up athlete versus athlete.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
And some of these guys just crazy.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
They crazy talent, crazy speed, crazy ability to get out
of tackles in that.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And I think we all kind of I saw it
on film. You know they guys, don't. You may not.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
They may not be household names on the Jacksonville Jaguars, but.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
They got some playmakers.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
But here's the other thing too, because it's it's happened
to all of us. Monday night football, Greemy Packers playing
against Brett Fahr and James Jones was a receiver and
he ran like a double move on Champ and I'm
the middlefield closed safety. I'm running over because he gets
outside of Champ. I'm running over as fast as I
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can to get him and try to push him out
of bounds.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
But I overrun it and he back because I'm running
so fast.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
So I tried to speed to her and run and
beat him to the pylon, and he just he just
out ran me to the pilon.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
So it happens to all of us.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
The idea is that you don't want it to happen
that often, right, So with the Broncos defense, it was
happening too frequently where you had too many guys over
running the play when just like ETN, there was like
a toss play on the right side Barcos sideline and
I'm thinking this thing is shut down, right, What rolegh
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Moss did was instead of Raleigh coming straight down to
take on the tackle because you're gonna get blown up anywhere,
you can't cut him anymore, Riley kind of moved out
about five yards and you expand that gap for the
pulling guard. So if you run wide, he's gonna kick
you out. There's increase. Everyone else is trapped inside right,
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and I think I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Who was it that made came up and made the tackle.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Might have been Hufunga, but whomever that was, they the touchdown.
But once again, on toss sweeps, you have to know
you gotta sacrifice someone and it might be you.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I'm seriously, I'm serious.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Because you can't cut those guys anymore like we could
have back in the day. You gotta run up in
there and most likely he's gonna toss you about the club, right,
So happened, Yeah, oh yeah, it's gonna happen to you.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, sometimes you got to sacrifice yourself.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
For the We're off and.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Rolling on Broncos Country tonight. When we come back, I
want to get your guys' thoughts on shop Sean Payton's
postgame comments, he had some interesting things to say. We'll
get to that next on Broncos Country to night on
koa Eten runs through a tackle, steps through another tackle.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
He's going to be inside the five yard line and
stopped at the three.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
But a good job there by the big back.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
You mentioned how tough he was to get in the ground,
and that time a couple of misstackles.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Singleton couldn't get him down, Jack Allen couldn't get him
down as well, and jay Kwan McMillan too.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
A run of twenty four first down the gold Jacksonville
to Denver three.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
These were just some of the mistackles we were talking
about in that first segment. The Broncos just seemed to
not be able to get et in on the ground
during this game.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Steve, Yeah, that that that was uh, I mean it
was surprising because we had been playing such good defense.
We've been making sure tackles and you know, uh, really
our defensive backs weren't having to make a ton of tackles.
But again, when you look at the film on the
Jacksonville Jaguars, you see they have talent all over the field.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
And at night, have you been this guy? He's been.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
He was the first round draft pick. I don't know
the word on the word with college with the Clemson.
Uh he had a knee injury or something his first
year missus, first year, near footing whatever, Well know what
it was. But ever since then he's been getting better
and better man, and he's he's a great player and
he runs with power. They get him the rock, although
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he didn't give him the rock as much as this game.
Uh yeah, I'm glad they didn't. But yeah, he's a
good player and teams have that. And again, when when
you don't see these teams that frequently, you don't really
know what they have. You know, because you haven't watched
a ton of films. You know, the week leading up
to it, you watch some film, but you haven't played
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against them. You don't really know the size.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You know, you know how how tough they are.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Well, once you get in that game, you're like, oh, man,
I didn't I saw them film.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
That's one of the things like when you watch someone
on film and they may seem as though, oh, well,
they're not really that fast, they don't run with that
much power, and you don't really find out until someone
hits them first or someone or they make you miss
and you go like, hey, you go back to the others.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Don't be one of those days. Man, It's gonna be
one of those days.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
And that's kind of what's going to be like from
here on out for the Denver Broncos or every single
team that's fighting to get into the playoffs. Just think
about what happened when Cleveland first, i mean faced off
against Buffalo yesterday. Josh Allen didn't have one of those
Josh Allen days. It was just James freaking Cook and
he was.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Giving them that business. So you have to understand this
is gonna happen. Yeah, you're gonna get that work, so
you better come to work. Well.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Sean Payton had some interesting comments about how much they
got worked in that Jacksonville Jaguars loss.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
All the all the things that are important or are
important to winning. You know, we didn't do a good
enough job with and that starts with me. They were
better on third downs, they won the turnover battle, they
won the kicking battle, and so now we have a
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you know, week two, digest it. You can't spit it out,
you gotta swallow it, and that starts with every one
of us.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Soap hold on.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
He seems like he was really proud of that comment
when he was saying it, and I was like, this
is gonna get used in all the wrong ways.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
I know, man, this social media and everything. He's so
crazy nowadays. Man, you see all kinds of stuff. People
say something and other people's minds go in other places
and then it's just takes on a whole new meaning.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
You know what it made me think of immediately when
he said it.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
What it's like, Kuli.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
So But he's right though, you know, like even though
that's not the phrase I would have used, it's like
you just got to accept it. They got dominated at
home against another team that's going to be a playoff team,
and they got to learn from it and move on.
And they got a short week and they got to
get ready for the Chiefs, a division rival, I mean,
albeit without probably Gardner Minshew because he got hurt as well,
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not a torn acl but also injured. I know, along
with Patrick Mahomes. I mean, the Chiefs want nothing more.
They have nothing left to fight for in this season
other than to ruin. The Broncos hopes that winning the
AFC West and that number one seed in the AFC playoffs,
so it turn it around.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Quick, Yeah, they do.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
It's sort of like, you know, when I was sick
as a kid. For some reason, my grandparents thought that
castor oil was a resolution for everything.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Hey, that stuff works, man, Not for everything.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Damn thing right, Grandma, I was playing football, butch has
hurt for what. It's one of those things where coach
is talking about It's like the Broncos got their heavy
dose of castor oil right now on Christmas Day against Kansas.
Say they need some sweet potato pie to wash that
taste out of their mouth.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
That's what they need, sweepotato pie.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I don't know, not cast oil.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
No, No, I tell you what, man.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
My wife I came home the other day, I had
a little crick in my neck from skiing.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
She's like, she get oil on it. Next morning I
woke up felt brand new.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Wow, I've never I've never used see. I thought the
idea is to put some tussin on it.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
No, that's fair when you want to have some really
weird dreams.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That's a lucid dreams.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yeah, hold on, gret, I was only they would only
give us rope testine, like you have a really serious cough.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
But you're on a whole different level that stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
You never had weird dreams on cough medicine.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
No, see now, now, maybe, yeah, you went over the
recommended the mount because okay, Greg, this is how it works.
On the back of the box, it says per body
pound or or by your age group.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Right, you gave only so much either tea.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Spoon not not not four cups of it because.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I think you had too much.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I had fun, see.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Now, No, you know you sounded like you sound like
you're from up Texas somewhere.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Sipping my lessons from three to six months. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
Yeah, man, But getting back to the to the point,
I think that Sean has the obviously the right concept.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah you do. You gotta forget about we talked about
that earlier. Nick, You're saying that is not it's easy
to do.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
It's it's not. I mean it's easy to say. You
know what, turn the page. We got to put that
behind us. You gotta forget it. I just told you
a story about how I had my trials and tribulations
on a particular.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Play, and it lingered.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
It lingered because now you don't want to be in
that mold again. Yes, do you have to show that
you have the propensity to move past it. Yes, But
here we all know this when we look at the game.
We talk about how physical the game is. It is,
but it's more mental than anything. Being able to overcome
the mistakes that you've made. Put it in a rear
(27:13):
view mirror. It sounds easier than it actually is.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
But but I also think that with the bad, they're
also with some good things too. You can't just folks
on the bad and like just look at this as a.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Hundred times that's what we look at the good one
hundred times.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Okay, I'm gonna give it to you guys like this,
Like you come across someone, a friend you hadn't seen
in a long time. Hey man, how's it going right?
That's the opening question. Now, things going on poorly in
their life, they want to tell you, and you open
the gate and they just might tell you how bad
things are. Because in our lives there's a tendency for
us to grab and hold on to those things that
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are negative that are happening to us, instead of focusing
on things that are positive.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
That's what everybody might say, bro things are going amazing,
lying maybe live He's all good man, No, they not.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Kway common spirit health text line five six six nine
zero from the seven to two to oho, Broncos haven't
had good defense since the Raiders game.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
They've had good enough till yesterday.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
We're actually gonna hear from Nick Bonito his thoughts on
the defensive performance as of late, since the bye week,
and now he described his play yesterday. That coming up
a little bit later in the show. Also on the
text line from the nine to seven zero, how many
gummies did you give him? I'm gonna call Nick Babylon
from here on out.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
What are you talking about? What gummy? Yes? I mean
I know what gummies they might be talking about too high.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
No, No, I'm not no not, I don't even eat
gummy bears anymore.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
How about that.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Steve you were talking about before we went to the
traffic break there about how you can't just focus on
all the negative, but you gotta, you know, show the
guys some of the good plays they had against the
Jacksonville Jaguars as well.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
They were right in that game for most of it.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I mean I never felt like they were gonna lose
until about that bo Nicks interception in the fourth quarter
when he was not on the same page with I
forget who he was thrown to at that time, but
you know, he tried to throw back shoulder and the
guy wasn't looking back shoulder and there was an interception,
and oh that was Pat Bryant. Ye And uh, from
everything I've heard, he's doing okay. Just released from the
(29:29):
hospital with a concussion only, so that's good news. We'll see,
I'm sure it'll be out this week. But what were
some of the positives that you saw in that loss
to the Jaguars.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
I would say, uh, bot Nicks, he had good numbers,
and I thought he played well throughout most of the game.
I know that that last interception and you just got
to you're just trying to make a play, right, right,
You're trying to trying to throw it up and make
a play. I thought that that r J played well,
(30:03):
you know, a couple of big runs, so I thought
he ran hard. I would like to have seen him
get the ball a little bit more, him and Jalil both. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, But like once we got down that second touchdown,
we just kind of abandoned the run game altogether. And
you're down fourteen and you're like, we got we gotta
get back in the game now. But I mean even
Jalil coming right out of halftime had that big, big
run as well. I think that's the recipe we got
to get back to, is a fifty to fifty you know,
run and pass. I think that's just that's the recipe
for success in the playoffs. But when you get down behind,
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you know, two touchdowns in the fourth quarter, it's tough
to stick with that running game, you.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Know what I means. Like if you ever cooked using
a recipe and.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
The recipe calls for flour, and instead of using flower,
you use almond flower, which changed the entire taste of
whatever you're baking, And like you said, the recipe really,
you know, run the ball. We can't substitute almond flour
for regular flower because it's not gonna taste great. The
pH balance and the offense is off right, And what
(31:05):
I mean by pH balance it obviously is run the
freaking ball. And here's what we saw Liam Cohen do.
Regardless of what Travis etm.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Was able to do, they still stuck to it no
matter what. They kept running, they kept running it. They
wouldn't And he didn't have as productive of a game.
He had more yards than r J.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Harvey did, but his yards per carry was nothing like RJ's.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
You know where where Liam Coleman got his first basic
foundation of offense from?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You know where?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You got it from the Shanahan tree.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
That's right, Sean McVay.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
And that's why I wasn't surprised standing on the sideline,
and they just kept running like, you know what, They're
gonna keep smashing him. He's gonna get one yard game,
two yard loss. They kept running it. They never gave up,
and and and that's the strategy.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
And they controlled time possession thirty three minutes, Uh, a
little over thir thirty three minutes. We had twenty six minutes,
so they had a little bit more time to run
it too. But yeah, they they had it stuck to
it and more Russia than we did, rusher TIMPs than
we did.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, well we got to run to a break. Steve
that hour always goes too fast with you man. Have
a happy holidays, Merry Christmas. Will chat with you after
a Chiefs win on Christmas.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
That's right, Merry Christmas, have holidays. Marco's Country, let's go.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
We'll be right back on Broncos Country. A night on
KOA
Big show tonight. We've got Parker Gabriel coming up in
the eight o'clock hour. Ryan Mike, We're gonna go inside
the numbers with us at seven o five. We started
all off with my guy Nick Ferguson in the Hall
of Famer, Steve Atwater.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Steve, how are you? Man?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Ah? Man, I'm doing all right. Don't sound I get
down in the dump. Come on, oh man, I'm not
down in the dumps. I'm just what you sound like?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Sound like?
Speaker 5 (00:30):
You know what he sounded like, you know on Sesame
Street what it was? A snuffle off iguins.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Hello bird? What's going on? You make it sound fly
to you? Yes? Do it?
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Am I right?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I am right?
Speaker 6 (00:47):
Not as good as it would have been if we
got a dumb bud, you know, of course, if we
would have made it twelve in a row, would been
a little easier to go with.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Go today on a Monday.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
But you know what, man, I think that the more
games that you win in a row, the pressure just
builds unnecessarily well unnecessarily well.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Okay, see if that would be true, Steve, if it
was outside of Denver, Colorado, or if you were not
playing for the Steelers or the Packers on a big,
big market. You a big fan playing here in Denver.
You and I both know this. The elevation of pressure
just kind of goes up. I don't ask fifty two eighties,
(01:30):
but I don't.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
Even think it's I think it's more so the self
pressure that the players put on themselves, because and the coaches,
the whole nine yards. Because I remember Man nineteen ninety eight. Bro,
we were thirteen and oho going into New York to
play the Giants.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And we're like, Bro, we might be fourteen and after
the game.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
And that was in the back of our minds, even
though we really didn't talk about it much. But Bro's
that's just an add way that you don't need. Well,
if this is to the game playing, all the adjustments
you gotta make, you gotta tack away, you gotta do
all these different things. Then you think about, Bro, if
we do this, we're gonna be fote, right.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
But that's initially that's part of the game, right that
the stress.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Okay, just like coach once told me, the pressure is
a privilege.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
There are not too many teams right now that are
sitting with that elevated level of pressure.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So they have no idea, think about this.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
The Cleveland Browns in their franchise history, only knows about
that level of pressure. Maybe a handful of years right
outside of that Bernie cozaar and you know when John
l Way just killed them with the drive, just kind
of just just broke the franchise.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
They don't know what pressure is. They have no idea.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
So playing here in Denver, playing at home where you
you're you're undefeated, you were seven and oh, crowd, yes,
bring you bring in a winning street like eleven twelve game.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
I'm not I'm not saying that it's a good thing
that we lost.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, well, see, I
know you're not saying that.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Yeah, I'm just saying, though you could as a positive
way of looking at it, like, okay, well that's one
last thing we got to think about. You know, we
want to have to think about the street. Yeah, I
want to think about this long Winter Street. Now we
just start back over and you can you can build
written now, Okay, go ahead, take it from Mayor.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Remember when we were on Grant last week and that
question came up, and I told you there's an eighty
twenty in that locker room. You may have eighty percent
of the guys may not think about it, but there's
a twenty percent of the guys who are probably thinking
about of the pressure, the number one seed and all
of this. Because coach Payton said he came out and said, well, well,
(03:42):
here's my three things in order right when the division.
Then he said be the number one seed and then
win the super Bowl in that particular order. So I'm
guessing I got them right. So I don't think he's
gonna call my name out in the press conference that
Nick Ferguson got it incorrect. But that's the pressure associated
with where you are. And just because you lost to
(04:05):
the Jacksonville Jaguars, that pressure doesn't stop. Because you're on
a short week. You still have Kansas City, you still
have the charge.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's one last thing you got to think about. Well
is it not. I'm gonna say no, it is man.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I'm gonna say no, Steve, because that's the one last
thing you got to think about. But that's that sounds
like you're saying that it's okay that they know, not
that it's okay, but good thing they lost to now
take their pressure.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
No, No, No, I didn't say that at all.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Okay, I just said, Okay, obviously you want to win
every football game. Everyone everybody does. Yes, I never had
a perfect season. You ever had a perfect season? Okay,
Well when it happens, you know, we we probably figured
they wouldn't win every game, every single game. Well, I
know we had the two losses to start with. But
(05:00):
I just feel like that's just one less thing that
the players have to think about it. They just want
one less distraction, unnecessary distract, I think.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Okay, I feel as though they're gonna think about this anyway.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Short, we could not think they lost the game. Yes,
well okay, think about think about all the things this
game is that's done.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Yes, but you one, I know, like I go back
to what I said, Grant, there's an eighty twenty rule.
Some guys can turn the page. Some guys can't. And
here's why. Because those guys who did not play well,
those who drop balls, those who miss tackles, those who
missed assignments.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Those guys.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
You would like to think that, Okay, Short, we turn
the page. The coaches are telling them to turn the page.
But mentally we know this as a player. Sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Happen as quickly as you would like for it to happen.
But it's gonna have to happen.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You don't have a choice. You have no choice.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
But I don't want to call anybody, almost call someone
out by name, man boy, let me tell you. Let
me stop it. I'm sorry I almost did, but I
can't do it. There's certain players that I know. We're
gonna have a hard time forgetting what happened on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
That's okay, don't forget my Thursday. Well, well, I.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Think that's the benefit of the short weekend.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Yeah, you hope so, because now you're thinking about another opponent.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
They may not think about that current opponent until they're
actually on the flight headed to Kansas City, right, Yes, they.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Gonna think about winning the mid room when they got
to make all the adjustments based off what the Kansaity
chiefs do, not what.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Steve's already forgotten already.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
But here's the Steve wasn't on the field. Steve didn't
miss an assignment.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Steve didn't drop a ball, right, Steve didn't miss a tackle.
So that's why it's easier for Steve or myself or
anyone else to say, I would like to forget it,
but I'm telling you, being a player, right, you're supposed
to move on. But there's just certain plays when the
coaches playing and go over them, and as they're correcting things,
(07:11):
you replay that moment.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
In your head.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Here's how I could have made a play to change
the trajectory.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Of the score of the game.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So you're saying, when you were playing, you're you a
bad play from the previous game would stick with you
into the next game, into the following weeks.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Yes, that's that issue would be in my head, and
I had to remove it in the way that I
only removed it. I need to go into that next game,
and I needed to play better.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Case in point.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
One time we played Kansas City on Monday night football
and I had sixty yards of penalties by myself.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Damn, damn.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Pivot. But it's bad enough that I had to deal
with it. But give me the day with the capitold.
So I came into the facility. I wasn't even coming
to pick up my check. I was going to work
out and watch the film. You was going to make
sure that joke still worked. Yes, I came in on
Tuesday to make sure my name prompt to stand there
(08:13):
and he said, Nick Ferguson right, and they had moved
it and there was another box or a garbage bag
there in my locker.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
And why are all these safeties working out too?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Because you know I always come in on Tuesday just
to see what what group was working out. I ran
into uh David Gibbs, who's my DV coach, and he
said this to me. He said, I hope you're not
going upstairs to pick up your check because you didn't
earn it.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Damn yes. So you got to back up to the
window and I don't even looked at it.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Look you know what, but.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Hit your arm out behind you.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
In your hand.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
No.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
So so for about three weeks I didn't go pick
up my check till I felt that I earned it
on the field.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
That's cap No, that's real talk, that's real.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
I wasn't doing direct deposit. No, come on, I want
a pay per check. I want to see all my money. No, no,
direct department.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Unfortunately it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
That's then was.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Really small, but real talk.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I didn't pick up my check for three weeks because
what he said to me impinged on me. Because I
felt as though I did not earn my check that week.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So I said, until I feel as.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Though I earned my check, I'm not gonna go pick
it up.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Or because of your play both dang both.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
And and And that was affirmation from him telling me
that don't go pick it up. You didn't earn it.
And I was crushed. So every day for about three weeks,
I was all over my game plan. Not that not
as though I wasn't before, but I was all on
it because I'm like David Gibbs or anyone else.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
They're never gonna tell me that again.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
So it sounds like you worked a little hard after
you got on you.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, I was already working on sound like tough coaching.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Right, So I mean, I mean, David gibbson, it's as
tough as they come, trust me.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
But did you hear did you hear PS two talking
about because he's kind of kind of saying the same
thing you did that this could have been, you know,
the wake up call that the Broncos needed.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
This is what he had to say post game, he
shout out.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Soon now they executed, you know, they made it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
The plays that he needed to make. But I said
at least not gonna be that easy. I mean, I
leven winning straight, that's a pretty impressive feat. But you know,
I think this was wake up you know this and
that you know look back on backs.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
You know, kind of hitting the reset button.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
And to your credits of your podcast, there were a
couple of guys, probably ticket for granted, they probably said,
look at our home winning streak, Look how well we're
playing throughout the season. Look at what is in front
of us, right, And they didn't attack the game. They
didn't attack execution and fundamentals the same way that they
(11:04):
have attacked and week week prior weeks.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
That's a possibility.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Because we are all human, we all flawed, and we
all treachers.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
That happened, so I've seen it happen in my career.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
No, man, see in your career, have you've never seen
a couple of guys just kind of like not really
prepare the way that they should.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
And it could be different because the errors of football
and also who was coaching you? Yeah, I mean you.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Could tell we tell the meetings or in practice locked in?
Oh yeah you were locked in, bro, You keep missing
the call. You just we just went over this five times.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
See it took whoever that was, it took them five times?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
What was that when we're doing practice though, yes, it wasn't.
Wed have to wait till we got to the games.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
And I remember early on in my career we would
get like little tests, like all right, all the adjustments,
because that was one of the biggest things for us,
is making sure we communicate and which adjustments to make
because you don't make those adjustments, especially with somebody go
in motion to come back and oh you can't be quiet, Yes,
(12:14):
let the guy know what's going on, and uh, but
you know, once you got that part squareway, we're good.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
But see, what's a gatting when you're speaking of.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Is something that that happens and stands out mostly on
defense opposed to offense, because when there's a breakdown in
communication and protection, there's there's a sack, there's a breakdown
in communication in the secondary, there's an explosive. And that
was one of the issues that I've seen watching the
Broncos team. It's not something that happens all the time,
(12:45):
but it says at the moments that it does happen.
Because I know football, I see it and I'm going,
like those two guys didn't communicate right, because anytime, if
you want to know, when you see two.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Guys stand in the end zone, they got their hands up,
what my fault is your fault?
Speaker 5 (13:03):
There's two guys at en zone, they try to figure
out whose fault it is.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Well, how big of a reason, you know, because we
saw the Drags have a bunch of explosive plays.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I think they had like.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Eight plays over twenty yards and the rest of the game,
you know, the defense pretty much held them in check,
but it was those big plays. How much of the
absence of Brandon Jones factored into that, you know, the
back end of the secondary. Who's communicating some of those
things to the rest of the secondary.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I'm going to say it plays a huge role because
just think.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
About it this way.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
When you have Brandon Jones and telling on her Funga,
they've been playing together in the secondary since training. If
you get a chance to know a person inside and out,
there's a verbal communication, then there's a non verbal communication.
You moved that guy out, That's like someone's ying your
right hand behind your back and said, okay, go fight,
Mike Tyson, come trouble. You were in trouble, so when
(13:56):
you insert other guys in the lineup, even though they're
working or they're trying to work cohesively in practice, it
is still not the same in the game. In game
time because guess what this crowd noise. You know how
loud it was.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You could you could see it on the TV broadcast.
Their camera's shaking, and Dave and Rick both on our
broadcast said, this is the loudest I've heard the stadium
in over a decade.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I remember being up in the press box and this
lady she was she put the.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Camera on the on the water water Jurassic Park. Yeah,
that's going on here. So so factor that crowd.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Noise in and insert someone else into the lineup, like
maybe PJ.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Lock who hadn't been there in a while. It takes
time to.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Tiny to kind of get that fluidity, even though you're saying, well,
here's a guy who should know the scheme and you
probably can talk to them, but then it goes down
from communication.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
To now execution right. And I'm not singling out PJ.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Lot, but there was a lot of disconnect when it
came to tackling right.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And that's the one thing defensively, you have to know
how to do.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
You have to know where other players are on the field,
and that was the part for me that I.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Was disappointed in seeing the poor tackling and how much
of it. Yeah, that is is kind of frustrating, you know.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Uh, losing containers is frustrating, you know, having the guy
run up to make a tackle and there's another guy outside
of him and he overruns them and not both y'all outside. Yes,
you know, I don't understand what you're saying. This the
space shial, the word is knowing where you're, where you're,
where your teammates are.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Man, that's uh, that's huge. You know.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I thought Riley Moss played pretty good in coverage.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
During the game, but like you guys were just talking about,
he messed a couple of tackles that you just don't
see him normally miss.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Some of that reason, some of that is also, Hey,
sometimes you get that they call it athlete too.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You know, sometimes you got exceptional.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Athletes that may plays making HTN bro that boy he
plays the ball.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Yes see, I knew, well I watched ETN when he
was in at Yes, well you can call him alien
if you want to too as well.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
But that that dude was very explosive.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Even though he only finished the game with the fifty yards.
You can see on every single run he was coming
downhill with power. And Parker I think, is Parker Washington.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Numbering eleven the receivers that return guy too, right, Yeah,
he's slippery.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah, he's like Deebo Samuel like standing on the field
seeing him.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
He's a thick guy.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
And what Steve is saying, it's true, like sometimes you
can have a perfect angle and the guy's just going
to outrun your a if he wants to get outside,
he's getting outside.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Well, there's that one play that was just like I
think it was a third down and it was just
like a five yard out route by him, and Riley
Moss whiffed on him, and then Huff missed him too,
And I was like, I've never seen that from both
of them missing a tackle on the same play.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
But maybe you're right, maybe it was just how athleted.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
And I also think that, like that's why the divisions
are so difficult, because you've played against these guys, you kind.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Of know them.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
You know they're not gonna come with anything, you know,
you know they're athletes pretty much. But when you play
somebody out of your division. You don't know how you're
gonna match up athlete versus athlete.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
And some of these guys just crazy.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
They crazy talent, crazy speed, crazy ability to get out
of tackles in that.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And I think we all kind of I saw it
on film. You know they guys, don't. You may not.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
They may not be household names on the Jacksonville Jaguars, but.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
They got some playmakers.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
But here's the other thing too, because it's it's happened
to all of us. Monday night football, Greemy Packers playing
against Brett Fahr and James Jones was a receiver and
he ran like a double move on Champ and I'm
the middlefield closed safety. I'm running over because he gets
outside of Champ. I'm running over as fast as I
(17:54):
can to get him and try to push him out
of bounds.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
But I overrun it and he back because I'm running
so fast.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
So I tried to speed to her and run and
beat him to the pylon, and he just he just
out ran me to the pilon.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
So it happens to all of us.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
The idea is that you don't want it to happen
that often, right, So with the Broncos defense, it was
happening too frequently where you had too many guys over
running the play when just like ETN, there was like
a toss play on the right side Barcos sideline and
I'm thinking this thing is shut down, right, What rolegh
(18:32):
Moss did was instead of Raleigh coming straight down to
take on the tackle because you're gonna get blown up anywhere,
you can't cut him anymore, Riley kind of moved out
about five yards and you expand that gap for the
pulling guard. So if you run wide, he's gonna kick
you out. There's increase. Everyone else is trapped inside right,
(18:53):
and I think I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Who was it that made came up and made the tackle.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Might have been Hufunga, but whomever that was, they the touchdown.
But once again, on toss sweeps, you have to know
you gotta sacrifice someone and it might be you.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I'm seriously, I'm serious.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Because you can't cut those guys anymore like we could
have back in the day. You gotta run up in
there and most likely he's gonna toss you about the club, right,
So happened, Yeah, oh yeah, it's gonna happen to you.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, sometimes you got to sacrifice yourself.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
For the We're off and.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Rolling on Broncos Country tonight. When we come back, I
want to get your guys' thoughts on shop Sean Payton's
postgame comments, he had some interesting things to say. We'll
get to that next on Broncos Country to night on
koa Eten runs through a tackle, steps through another tackle.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
He's going to be inside the five yard line and
stopped at the three.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
But a good job there by the big back.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
You mentioned how tough he was to get in the ground,
and that time a couple of misstackles.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Singleton couldn't get him down, Jack Allen couldn't get him
down as well, and jay Kwan McMillan too.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
A run of twenty four first down the gold Jacksonville
to Denver three.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
These were just some of the mistackles we were talking
about in that first segment. The Broncos just seemed to
not be able to get et in on the ground
during this game.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Steve, Yeah, that that that was uh, I mean it
was surprising because we had been playing such good defense.
We've been making sure tackles and you know, uh, really
our defensive backs weren't having to make a ton of tackles.
But again, when you look at the film on the
Jacksonville Jaguars, you see they have talent all over the field.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
And at night, have you been this guy? He's been.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
He was the first round draft pick. I don't know
the word on the word with college with the Clemson.
Uh he had a knee injury or something his first
year missus, first year, near footing whatever, Well know what
it was. But ever since then he's been getting better
and better man, and he's he's a great player and
he runs with power. They get him the rock, although
(21:02):
he didn't give him the rock as much as this game.
Uh yeah, I'm glad they didn't. But yeah, he's a
good player and teams have that. And again, when when
you don't see these teams that frequently, you don't really
know what they have. You know, because you haven't watched
a ton of films. You know, the week leading up
to it, you watch some film, but you haven't played
(21:24):
against them. You don't really know the size.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You know, you know how how tough they are.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Well, once you get in that game, you're like, oh, man,
I didn't I saw them film.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
That's one of the things like when you watch someone
on film and they may seem as though, oh, well,
they're not really that fast, they don't run with that
much power, and you don't really find out until someone
hits them first or someone or they make you miss
and you go like, hey, you go back to the others.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Don't be one of those days. Man, It's gonna be
one of those days.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
And that's kind of what's going to be like from
here on out for the Denver Broncos or every single
team that's fighting to get into the playoffs. Just think
about what happened when Cleveland first, i mean faced off
against Buffalo yesterday. Josh Allen didn't have one of those
Josh Allen days. It was just James freaking Cook and
he was.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Giving them that business. So you have to understand this
is gonna happen. Yeah, you're gonna get that work, so
you better come to work. Well.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Sean Payton had some interesting comments about how much they
got worked in that Jacksonville Jaguars loss.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
All the all the things that are important or are
important to winning. You know, we didn't do a good
enough job with and that starts with me. They were
better on third downs, they won the turnover battle, they
won the kicking battle, and so now we have a
(22:59):
you know, week two, digest it. You can't spit it out,
you gotta swallow it, and that starts with every one
of us.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Soap hold on.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
He seems like he was really proud of that comment
when he was saying it, and I was like, this
is gonna get used in all the wrong ways.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
I know, man, this social media and everything. He's so
crazy nowadays. Man, you see all kinds of stuff. People
say something and other people's minds go in other places
and then it's just takes on a whole new meaning.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
You know what it made me think of immediately when
he said it.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
What it's like, Kuli.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
So But he's right though, you know, like even though
that's not the phrase I would have used, it's like
you just got to accept it. They got dominated at
home against another team that's going to be a playoff team,
and they got to learn from it and move on.
And they got a short week and they got to
get ready for the Chiefs, a division rival, I mean,
albeit without probably Gardner Minshew because he got hurt as well,
(24:11):
not a torn acl but also injured. I know, along
with Patrick Mahomes. I mean, the Chiefs want nothing more.
They have nothing left to fight for in this season
other than to ruin. The Broncos hopes that winning the
AFC West and that number one seed in the AFC playoffs,
so it turn it around.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Quick, Yeah, they do.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
It's sort of like, you know, when I was sick
as a kid. For some reason, my grandparents thought that
castor oil was a resolution for everything.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Hey, that stuff works, man, Not for everything.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Damn thing right, Grandma, I was playing football, butch has
hurt for what. It's one of those things where coach
is talking about It's like the Broncos got their heavy
dose of castor oil right now on Christmas Day against Kansas.
Say they need some sweet potato pie to wash that
taste out of their mouth.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
That's what they need, sweepotato pie.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I don't know, not cast oil.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
No, No, I tell you what, man.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
My wife I came home the other day, I had
a little crick in my neck from skiing.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
She's like, she get oil on it. Next morning I
woke up felt brand new.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Wow, I've never I've never used see. I thought the
idea is to put some tussin on it.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
No, that's fair when you want to have some really
weird dreams.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That's a lucid dreams.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yeah, hold on, gret, I was only they would only
give us rope testine, like you have a really serious cough.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
But you're on a whole different level that stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
You never had weird dreams on cough medicine.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
No, see now, now, maybe, yeah, you went over the
recommended the mount because okay, Greg, this is how it works.
On the back of the box, it says per body
pound or or by your age group.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Right, you gave only so much either tea.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Spoon not not not four cups of it because.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I think you had too much.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I had fun, see.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Now, No, you know you sounded like you sound like
you're from up Texas somewhere.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Sipping my lessons from three to six months. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
Yeah, man, But getting back to the to the point,
I think that Sean has the obviously the right concept.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah you do. You gotta forget about we talked about
that earlier. Nick, You're saying that is not it's easy
to do.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
It's it's not. I mean it's easy to say. You
know what, turn the page. We got to put that
behind us. You gotta forget it. I just told you
a story about how I had my trials and tribulations
on a particular.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Play, and it lingered.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
It lingered because now you don't want to be in
that mold again. Yes, do you have to show that
you have the propensity to move past it. Yes, But
here we all know this when we look at the game.
We talk about how physical the game is. It is,
but it's more mental than anything. Being able to overcome
the mistakes that you've made. Put it in a rear
(27:13):
view mirror. It sounds easier than it actually is.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
But but I also think that with the bad, they're
also with some good things too. You can't just folks
on the bad and like just look at this as a.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Hundred times that's what we look at the good one
hundred times.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Okay, I'm gonna give it to you guys like this,
Like you come across someone, a friend you hadn't seen
in a long time. Hey man, how's it going right?
That's the opening question. Now, things going on poorly in
their life, they want to tell you, and you open
the gate and they just might tell you how bad
things are. Because in our lives there's a tendency for
us to grab and hold on to those things that
(27:52):
are negative that are happening to us, instead of focusing
on things that are positive.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
That's what everybody might say, bro things are going amazing,
lying maybe live He's all good man, No, they not.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Kway common spirit health text line five six six nine
zero from the seven to two to oho, Broncos haven't
had good defense since the Raiders game.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
They've had good enough till yesterday.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
We're actually gonna hear from Nick Bonito his thoughts on
the defensive performance as of late, since the bye week,
and now he described his play yesterday. That coming up
a little bit later in the show. Also on the
text line from the nine to seven zero, how many
gummies did you give him? I'm gonna call Nick Babylon
from here on out.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
What are you talking about? What gummy? Yes? I mean
I know what gummies they might be talking about too high.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
No, No, I'm not no not, I don't even eat
gummy bears anymore.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
How about that.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Steve you were talking about before we went to the
traffic break there about how you can't just focus on
all the negative, but you gotta, you know, show the
guys some of the good plays they had against the
Jacksonville Jaguars as well.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
They were right in that game for most of it.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I mean I never felt like they were gonna lose
until about that bo Nicks interception in the fourth quarter
when he was not on the same page with I
forget who he was thrown to at that time, but
you know, he tried to throw back shoulder and the
guy wasn't looking back shoulder and there was an interception,
and oh that was Pat Bryant. Ye And uh, from
everything I've heard, he's doing okay. Just released from the
(29:29):
hospital with a concussion only, so that's good news. We'll see,
I'm sure it'll be out this week. But what were
some of the positives that you saw in that loss
to the Jaguars.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
I would say, uh, bot Nicks, he had good numbers,
and I thought he played well throughout most of the game.
I know that that last interception and you just got
to you're just trying to make a play, right, right,
You're trying to trying to throw it up and make
a play. I thought that that r J played well,
(30:03):
you know, a couple of big runs, so I thought
he ran hard. I would like to have seen him
get the ball a little bit more, him and Jalil both. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, But like once we got down that second touchdown,
we just kind of abandoned the run game altogether. And
you're down fourteen and you're like, we got we gotta
get back in the game now. But I mean even
Jalil coming right out of halftime had that big, big
run as well. I think that's the recipe we got
to get back to, is a fifty to fifty you know,
run and pass. I think that's just that's the recipe
for success in the playoffs. But when you get down behind,
(30:33):
you know, two touchdowns in the fourth quarter, it's tough
to stick with that running game, you.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Know what I means. Like if you ever cooked using
a recipe and.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
The recipe calls for flour, and instead of using flower,
you use almond flower, which changed the entire taste of
whatever you're baking, And like you said, the recipe really,
you know, run the ball. We can't substitute almond flour
for regular flower because it's not gonna taste great. The
pH balance and the offense is off right, And what
(31:05):
I mean by pH balance it obviously is run the
freaking ball. And here's what we saw Liam Cohen do.
Regardless of what Travis etm.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Was able to do, they still stuck to it no
matter what. They kept running, they kept running it. They
wouldn't And he didn't have as productive of a game.
He had more yards than r J.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Harvey did, but his yards per carry was nothing like RJ's.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
You know where where Liam Coleman got his first basic
foundation of offense from?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You know where?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You got it from the Shanahan tree.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
That's right, Sean McVay.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
And that's why I wasn't surprised standing on the sideline,
and they just kept running like, you know what, They're
gonna keep smashing him. He's gonna get one yard game,
two yard loss. They kept running it. They never gave up,
and and and that's the strategy.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
And they controlled time possession thirty three minutes, Uh, a
little over thir thirty three minutes. We had twenty six minutes,
so they had a little bit more time to run
it too. But yeah, they they had it stuck to
it and more Russia than we did, rusher TIMPs than
we did.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, well we got to run to a break. Steve
that hour always goes too fast with you man. Have
a happy holidays, Merry Christmas. Will chat with you after
a Chiefs win on Christmas.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
That's right, Merry Christmas, have holidays. Marco's Country, let's go.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
We'll be right back on Broncos Country. A night on
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