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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you've missed the sound of my voice, well then
I'm sorry for your ears.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Should never miss the sound of my voice.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
But yes, I've been out a little out of the weather.
Uh still a little under the weather, but enough back
to be back here with you all right before Christmas.
Merry Christmas to you five six, six, nine zeros A
text line. Gonna need you guys, get involved the conversation,
A big show. We got Rick Luis going to join
us in six thirty. Thanks Ryan Edwards for totally spoiling
mystery guests that people would never have known. Alex Gold
(00:26):
at seven o five and Sean Keeler at eight thirty five.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So we'll get a chance to preview.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
The Chiefs game with Alex Gold get a chance. Talked
to Sean Keeler about his latest column. I actually and
this will be fun because I disagreed with something that
Sean said.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I missed his lad latest column. What was it?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
He was?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
He's bagging on the refs pretty hard for that Jacksonville game.
You know there were missed calls, but I didn't feel
like that game was appreciably poorly officiated.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Well for all the talk going into it, it was
like the Jags and the Broncos are both some of
the most heavy, heavily penalizzed teams. They let him play, Yeah,
and ness referee crew was supposed to call the most
penalties in the league. For all that being said, I
didn't think there were overly that many penalties.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, I didn't think they inserted themselves much. I mean,
I get it that people didn't like the call on PJ.
But you knude, you saw the quarterback drop the arm,
put the ball down. You saw people give up on
the play, even if you couldn't hear. Like, I get it,
I get where that call is coming from. I hate
that it went against us, and I hate that it happened.
I think you have to make that call.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, you have to make that was in this era,
you make that call.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It was five seconds after the whistle blue, whether it heard.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It or not, right, you know, everybody, almost everybody had
stopped at that point, and it's you know, the only
people that were still going was the big boys who
were still trying to gear down and stop their momental.
The reality of that game and the reason that we
lost is we got out coached both sides of the football.
We got out coached. We got out executed, We got
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out coached. We didn't make plays on defense that we
needed to make. You can't let five yard games become
fifty yard gains.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
And expect to win. But we got out coached.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And it's a bigger thing that Jacksonville, and I warned
everybody leading up to that game, Jacksonville wants to bait
you into a shootout. They want to bait you into
throwing the ball because they thrive on turnovers and they
want to put you in turnover type situations. Granted, one
of our turnovers came on a washed handoff, but you
know whatever, jackson That's that's what Jacksonville does. They thrive
on the extra possessions. They thrive on putting you and
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making you one dimensional.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And they did it. We knew and we knew what
they were trying to do, and we let them do
it to us.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, that I didn't even think the Broncos really played
that bad, which was what I was telling Ryman before
the show, Like that was the scarier part to me,
is that we just got beat like we got dominated,
and all all facets of the game, I.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Mean, the defense wasn't where it needs to be and
it's there's some issues with that. I think Jacksonville put
a masterclass on And I don't know if you've seen
this or not, then Curt has posted some some videos
about it where you can see. But in the group
chat that I mean, we were talking about how how
they kept getting up to the line of scrimmage right,
and the center would start doing all this this stuff,
and everybody else would be would still be getting up
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to the line of scrimam. So really what the center
was doing was theatrical in an effort to you know,
fake calling out mics and all kinds of points and
whatever else. He's really just waiting to see if his
guys are are on the line, and as soon as
they were, he would silent count, snap it, and Trevor
Lawrence would be back at the top of his drop
before any of our guys had even gotten into the backfield.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And that's how they negated.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
The pass rush, using a using a silent count in
a hostile environment. You know, whatever else you want to
be mad at the you know, the Jaguars, whatever else
you gotta take your captain.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That that was genius. It was genius move.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, and you were talking about the creativity of Liam
Cohen and their Jaguars offense, and I think it really.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Shined through in that game.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And even when we were getting sacks on Trevor Lawrence,
they were coming from right up the middle, not our
edge guys, and he was only losing like a yard
or two or I wasn't losing ten to twelve yards.
It was like almost back to the line of scrimmage
every time.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, and so.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
There's there's I think there's some there's definitely some stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
To take away from that.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You know, it sucks because you know you're looking at
this thing and you're like, all right, well, we definitely
need to win on Thursday because you know, the Chargers,
we don't know if they're gonna win or lose that game.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Excuse me against Houston, and I apologize.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
If my voice continues to break, I may may call
myself out for that on.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
This But there's you know, the Chargers have a tough
task with Houston.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The Broncos are going to be up against Christal lucan
And and the Kansas City Chiefs. Now it's at Arrowhead,
you know, on a Thursday night, on a short week,
it's always tough. But there I believe twelve and a
half point favorites in that game. And and you know,
you kind of want to go back to that Jags
game and look at the tape and say, Okay, there's
some stuff to pull out of here that people are
starting to get the blueprint on us a little bit
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that we need to change up, and you don't really
have this is like, it's the worst week to have
that happen because you got a short week. You can't
really get into that. You don't have time to do
all that as you get ready to face Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Now, maybe you'll be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You know, go out and do a you know, a
post you know, autopsy on it after the Kansas City game,
kind of do both of them, since you got the
ended before you got to play the Chargers, and at
that point you may have clinched everything from the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But yeah, it just sucks that this is like the
worst timing, even though you're getting a shorthanded Kansas City team.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yeah, And I mean they were talking a little bit
on KOA Sports. You heard a little bit with Rod
Smith and Nick Ferguson and Ryan They were talking about
style points I could care less about style.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Never cared about style.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Just beat the Chiefs, wrap up the AFC West and
call it a day. Like, just get out of there
with winning, like you said, you got a long week
after that. Then you can kind of dissect what teams
are figuring out about your your defense and your offense.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Frankly, yeah, it's it's and that's one of those things like, well,
we don't necessarily clinch the West.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
We do.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
If the Chargers lose, they have to lose to Houston.
I think they lose.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I don't know, man, I think the Chargers they were
going to lose the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I didn't think they were gonna lose the Cowboy.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
The Chargers have the type of offense that beats that
kind of defense, right, what it takes to beat because Houston.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Okay, so Houston, and I always say this because Houston.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I call him disrespectful on defense, right, And it's a
compliment to the way they play defense. It really is
not a Sean Payton small market whatever those dorks were
saying about that nonsense, but it really is the backhanded compliment.
It's a compliment to the Houston Texans, even if it
appears a bit backhanded because they don't they don't disguise anything,
and they don't blitz. They are straight up sending therefore
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and dropping the rest of them back and daring you
to beat it. And they are very very good at it.
The problem with doing that, as you've if you've ever
watched my personal man crushed Dan Quinn's defense, is that
you can run on it. You're five on four and
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they're coming up field, and so there's there's the way
to do that is to get is to get those
combo blocks and to get the run game going.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You'll run a lot of duo doing that, but.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You'll you'll see teams like the Chargers beat teams like
the Texans even short handed, if they're able to execute
in a run game, and that that's how you beat
teams like that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Now, you can't settle for field goals. You have to
you have to take the point when you give.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You can't settle for you can't go down there, you know,
three trips and score nine points and that you still
got to get in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
So you're gonna have to throw at some point.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
But the idea that the main component in beating teams
like that is to put them back on their heels
where they are unable to send their front four with
their ears pinned back every play.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
If they get you an obvious pass situations, they destroy you.
That's what they do.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
That's that's how that defense works. You have to stay patient,
run the football. And if there's any team out there
that does that, it's the La Chargers.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I was gonna say, since they've got hamped them back,
I mean, they're their run game is clicking, and Justin
Herbert's gonna, you know, take off himself.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, and he's he's banged up. Obviously they're shorthanded on
the offensive line. But I still leave the La Chargers
are gonna be formidable in that game. And I'm gonna
be honest with you if you're the conspiracy type, which
I am not, but you may be. And by the way,
that what was that comedian Ron Funchess, I think does
a great bit on the conspiracy, the conspiracy, the the
government's in charge of like eight hundred million people. I
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got one son, and I lie to that brother all
the time.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I love that bit.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I was.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It's so great. If you have a chance to watch,
you to watch it.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I'm not the conspiracy theory type, But it sure would
be beneficial to the NFL to have a matchup and
a brawl for it all the following week.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Especially if especially with this dud of a lineup in
the Christmas Day games.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You got, you got duds, you got all three duds, coach,
two duds for Netflix and a dud for Amazon coming
up on Thursday, and you've got a chance to create
the brawl for it all.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
The following week.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I'm just saying it benefits the NFL for both teams
to win.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Man, I'm here for it though, Like, these are the
games I've been waiting for since I started working these
Broncos game games. At the end of the year, we're
into we'll be into January at that point, and the
winner of that game wends the AFC West. Like that's
the stuff that gives you goosebumps as a sports fan.
Like obviously in Broncos country, you'd love to have it
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wrapped up before then, right, But for me, that's the
stuff that I signed up for.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Like, those are the games that I'm getting nammed for.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I love football, the matters, they're like late season football,
the match I love it because you get the better
you get everybody in their back, every every offensive defensive
coordinator play, They're in their bag for that stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Man, you get up for that.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
It's you just get the best kind of football games
in those situations as opposed to the real stinkers you
get when they don't matter. And if you don't think
I'm kidding, look around the league at some of these
games from teams that don't matter. We're getting another Max
Brosmer game this weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You kidding? Meet Max Brosmer.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Jasey McCarthy spend more time l injured than the Jackson Dark.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
At this point.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh, just frustrating, five six, six, nine zeros In a
text line, I want to hear from you guys.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
What do you guys got going on for Christmas?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You guys gotta be dialed into the the NBA, the NFL,
the sports that they now offer on Christmas Day? How
many people are gonna be around your family? How many
people can't stand your family? It's like, you know me,
I'm just gonna knopski.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Except for your mom. Man, Well, I love my mother. Yeah.
They just got a new dog.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
You're a dog. No, they they just got a new dog.
They got a new puppy. It's it's a little Australian
shepherd pooh sing.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Anyway, those things are adorable. No, it's totally adorable. It's
they've they're taking all these videos and just sending them
to me, and it's just that puppy just can't figure
anything out at this point. It's just like just learning
everything on the fly. It's these videos are epically hilarious.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, those are the best.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
You know, it's funny you mentioned the NBA and the
NFL on Christmas. I was having this debate with Ryan
before KOA Sports.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Today.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I feel like the NFL has officially stolen Christmas from
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Oh yeah, these are terrible matchups. Yeah, terrible matchups that
we're getting for Christmas. And I guarantee you they are
going to dwarf the NBA at least double right, at
least what ten times? Yeah, they are going to absolutely
slaughter the NBA has been triggering matchups on Christmas. The
Nuggets are going to be playing on Christmas during during
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the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Every single one of you are going to be watching
the Broncos. Well, you might flip over on commercials. I
don't know see how that goes, but yeah, it's just
one of those things.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Like it's we have absolutely hilariously bad football matchups. And
if you're Netflix, I mean you've really got to be like, really,
we can't flex any of this.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
This is what we paid for.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, the Dallas Cowboys and Washington Commanders. Nothing screams exciting
like two teams with ten wins between them and a
backup quarterback firing off another start.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
But you look at it at the beginning of the
year like this is going to be a hell of
a Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Matchup De Troit versus Minnesota. Same thing and the Battle
for five hundred, right.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
And now you're like, well, are either of these teams
even going to be in the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Probably not, But the Lions are gonna blow out the Vikings,
who are starting Max Brosmer. And then you got the
marquee matchup of the day, the Pinnacle the Crown on
Amazon on Thursday Night Football, as the Broncos take on
the Chiefs, and the Broncos remain thirteen point favorites with
an over under of thirty six and.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
A half and a quarterback for the Chiefs getting his
first ever career start.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I mean, how do you have a thirteen point spread
with a thirty six and a half over Unders.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
That's like the line you look at and you're like,
this game, this is gonna suck. From a neutral perspective, right,
hopefully it's you know, thirty five to three Broncos and
everyone's happy in Broncos Country. But all three of those
matchups you look at them at the beginning of the
year and you're like, damn, we could have three amazing,
top tier NFL matchups. And then the season plays out
and you're like, none of.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
These games are good. From it like a national perspect.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You're starting, yeah, you're starting the season off, and you're like, oh, okay,
we'll kick it off with with Dallas and Washington. We
had Dack versus Jade, and it's gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah you get that, and.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
You got Okay, well, well, even if that one's a dude,
we've still got a an intradivisional rivalry game here at
two playoff teams and Detroit Lions and Minnesota Vikings and
something called a Max brosmer Ah what uh huh, a
little chold would say. And then you got the the
Broncos taken on the dead and the water chiefs or
hemorrhaging bodies at this point on a short week.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
And it's still gonna dwarf the NBA. I know, it's
that's a that's mind blowing. NFL is king we Yeah,
it is.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
By the way, Kansas City, what a what a?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
What a?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
What a reminder to Denver Broncos fans of what great
ownership is versus bad ownership. The Chiefs are moving out
of Missouri to the state of Kansas. They're moving to Oleitha, Kansas.
I mean, this isn't just as this isn't as comically
succinct as like the Bearers moving together Indiana if that happens.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Which is a real possibility, which is and we're all
here to root on the gear Bears. But I haven't
heard that one yet. I I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, I coined that the other night Mandy Connell texted
it was there is like telling me like She's like
I couldn't stop laughing and she's at the gear Bears.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
What is wrong with you? How do you even come
up with that? The Gary, Indiana?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, thing for Chicago, which is, you know, objectively hilarious.
But and this isn't like moving to a Leatha. Kansas
is not like that funny relatively speaking. I mean, ahead
is a it's a it's a it's a tradition. I mean,
it's stadium has been there for fifty plus years.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It is the Chiefs tradition. Yeah, it is like I've
lived in Kansas twice.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I can tell you that there's there is a sentimentality
attached to that. And I will tell you there's a
lot of Chiefs fans that are very unhappy, although I
will say Missouri residents are probably happy with the the
tax lopsided black bad deal the state.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Of Kansas signed with.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
How much the way is that from where the stadium
as now to wear Kansas, Well.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, it's I mean forty minutes with traffic and everything else.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You have a take.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
I wonder what the atmosphere is going to be like
on Christmas night? Yeah, I yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I don't expect there to be a lot of Like
Arrowhead is traditionally a loud, raucous environment.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
There's a lot of disappointment both in this season, the
direction in Kansas City that the recent news I kind
of wonder if there's going to be a larger than
normal contingent of Broncos of Broncos fans there in Kansas
City for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
There's going to be I hope so. And by the way,
I didn't get a chance because I've been out sick.
I didn't get a chance to follow up with profit
And how loud was that stadium? It was Jack's crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I mean, the cameras were vibrating pretty good. I was like,
this is it's been getting louder and louder, and.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
We multiple times, Dave and Rick both were like, this
is the loudest I've ever heard the stadium.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
It was close to like I made that comment not
this week, the last the Packers game, and there's a
moment in there I was like, this is the loud
of stuff hurt this place.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And I had to because I was sick.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I had to watch the game on TV instead of
being there this past weekend, and I'm like, man, it's
just like, look at this. This looks like the loudest.
I mean, I know what the crowd noise sounds like
relative to everything else because I'm there every week.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So it's just one of those like things where you.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Sort of like you could tell you can innately tell
the hair on the back of your neck kind of
thing because you've just been around it so much. So
watching it on TV, which is a new experience for
me because I don't don't get to watch broncles on
TV that much. You know, away games, I guess at
the burn down or whatever, but I mean like games
where I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
There and I'm the it's just me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I was like, oh man, it looks like it's really
loud in there.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
It looks like it's really really loud.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Steve said last night when he was on with Nick
and Me that there was a lady in the press
box that like set her water bottled down at one
point and it was just shaking back and forth, almost
falling over from the crowd noise. While I was just
sitting in the press box, I'm like, that's the atmosphere
that you love, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And that's what you that's what you sign up for.
That's when you get into this. Those are the kind
of moments and the kind of atmosphere you want to
be around when you're doing this kind of stuff. So
it's it's a lot of fun. Five six, six nine
zeros of text line five four one. What makes Houston
able to do that disrespectful defenses with no disguise or anything.
Sounds like the plan is just having better players than
the other team instead of having a scheme that puts
your players in a good position where they're well.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
It's both.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I'm pretty sure it's both.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Houston scheme is a sound scheme first of all, but
they also do have good, good to great players. I mean,
you got Derek Stingley, one of the best corners out there,
you got one of the best pass rushers out there.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You just they have good players. They have very good players,
and they're able to do it.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
It's not to say they don't ever.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Blitz or ever disguise, but they are the least frequent
team and doing those things in the league. They just
they just they come out run their defense, and that's
you know, that's what it is. Seven to nine. I
think I gotta apologize to Ryan and Nick because I'm
pretty sure it was Ben making fun of listeners and
disregarding them about the concerns with Riley Moss, just like
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him lumping us all in together, leantles you talking heads
together and took it out on you, and I apologize
as well. Hopefully those guys are listening on their way
home and they got their apology. Uh yeah, I made
fun of listeners who didn't know what they were talking about.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That doesn't mean that.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Everybody who you know, with Riley Moss, because there were
people saying that he needs to be benched and all
that kind of stuff. And I still don't believe that,
Like Roy Moss doesn't need to be benched. He's just
you know, he's got in his head that these these
holding calls and a lot of them are phantom. You know,
that he's got it in his head that he needs
to do something. Well, then he puts the boxing gloves on,
kind of overcorrects a little bit, and now all of
a sudden the tackling has dropped a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Somebody needs to he needs to go see a sports psychologist.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
He needs to go sit down and get out of
his head on some of this stuff and reset himself.
Whatever the reputation in the league is, just go out
and be the best to you and eventually that stuff will.
You know, Fred Taylor was fragile Fred until he wasn't,
you know, And so that's one of those things. I
think I think you, you know, you kind of got
to find yourself again, and I think Riley needs to
do that a little bit. I Riley's still a good corner.
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You go back and you look at the touchdowns that
have been scored on Riley Mows. Most of them have
an incredible defensive place, but somehow they still found a
touchdown on.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
And he honestly played pretty good other than the miss tackles,
Like he had a couple of crass pass breakups.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
He had that sack.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean there were some glaring miss tackles.
And you know, if you didn't know who Washington was
before that Jaguars game, Nick said it perfectly on KO Sports,
you certainly know now because that dude is electric.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Had him on my fantasy team. He's, uh, finally a
right move by Yeah, you know, I was over two.
He's yeah, he's he's a baller. He's a good player.
And I don't want to take anything away from Jacksonville
at all. You got to tap the cap, tore those guys.
You know, they came in here, did exactly what they
needed to do. We'll get into the a little bit later.
The fake, the fake small market, slight and all that
kind of stuff. I had to get on Twitter and
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Sean cleared it up, but I already knew what they
you know what that was gonna be. What a masterclass though,
by Liam Cohen turning that into something that worked his
motivational fuel for his guys.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
We come back, We got Rick close. He listen to
Bronckos Country Night Kiawa.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah. I broke away from a little fan Christmas party
here to spend a little time with you on Christmas
Eve Eve. All right.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I feel honored, I feel I feel special and uh
it's just the season. So uh, you know, as we
were talking about earlier, it felt like and again I
wasn't there. I was up of the weather, but you were,
Dave was there broadcasting. It felt like that that jazz game.
The volume, the sound, the level of of the fan
fervor in that stadium was as loud as I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, and you need to stop licking doorknobs too. I
think we're so tasty though, right. Uh, you know what,
that's the loudest I've heard the stadium and it was
it was it was shaking, it was a vibrating that's
how loud it was, I don't know what the decibel
level was, but it was. It was just incredible, and
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they it definitely made a difference. And this last game
coming up here against the Chargers, which could be a
very big game, we need Broncos Country to come out
and make some noise again. They made a difference here
this season for sure at home and unfortunately Broncos came
up a little bit short. And I got to give
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the Jags credit. And the Jags played a really good game.
They're a really good team and they may be the
best offense in football right now.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
They are very creative.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I love what Liam Coleen does on that offense and
sort of caters to what Trevor Lawrence and his team
are good at. But more than that, they came in
with the right game plan and they got the Broncos
to play their brand of football. Jacksonville wants you throwing
the ball. They want you to be throwing it deep,
you know, into the teeth of their defense. They want
to try to generate turnovers and they want to get
you into a shootout with them, and that's not the
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Broncos game.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And they got Denver to do that.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
They did yeah, and that was maybe the worst defensive
performance I think this year from the Denver Broncos. I
couldn't believe how many misstackles they had, how many missed
assignments they had in the back end of that defense.
It seemed like guys were wide open pretty much the
whole game, even though they were putting good pressure on
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Trevor Lawrence, you know, and I thought that would be
the difference in the game because typically for him, if
you pressure him, he's not very good. And he was
making plays and also making plays with his legs. So
I give them a lot of credit. The Broncos are
better than that. We'll see a better version of the
Broncos here, certainly in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
That we will talk with Rick Lewis here WRO Broncos,
Coloradole stuff. As we look at that loss and moving forward,
it might have been, you know, you never want to
lose a game, but it might have been the opportune
time to have that happen. Right, You're getting ready for
the playoffs, you've been on a lengthy win streak, sort
of that pressure starts to build and you're like, man,
we haven't a loss in forever. You forget what that's like.
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You know, it can be something that refocuses guys.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Oh, definitely, I think there's going to be a reset.
It definitely it got their attention, which is a good thing.
They got beat by a good team. When we were
walking out of the stadium, Dave and I I told Dave,
I said, you know what, I feel much better about
the fact they got beat by a good team. If
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we were walking out of the stadium right now and
they got beat by say the Jet or something like that,
I think we feel a whole lot worse about losing
that football game. So they got beat by a good team.
They may play again in the playoffs, and I certainly
think the Broncos can beat that football team. They just
didn't play a very good game all around. Got a
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lot of yards on offense, yeah, then, as you know,
but it just it didn't look right. It just didn't
look right, especially on defense.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
It felt like empty calories in a lot of ways
with the yardage not coming up with points. Part of
that was a misfield goal of the doink by Lutz,
and part of that was just you know, turnovers and
everything else. Broncos fans got a reminder of this week
of what good ownership they have and how bad they
could have it somewhere else. The Kansas City Chiefs, who
is their opponent on Thursday, is going to be moving
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out of Missouri into Oleitha, Kansas, and fans there are
not happy. They aren't had with a product this season,
they aren't happy with some of the decisions this season,
and they certainly aren't happy with the decision to move
out of Arrowhead Stadium, a storied, fifty plus year old stadium,
frankly over to Kansas of all places. This yet another
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reminder that ownership really does set the baseline and culture
for a lot of these football teams.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Well, what it tells me is just how special this
ownership group is. They're working on a new stadium too,
and it's not going to cause taxpayers a dime. The
new one they're going to build in Kansas, I believe
it's seventy percent is going to be funded by taxpayers,
and this ownership group's got plenty of money. They don't
have to do that. It's basically, as you know, it's
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a suburb of Kansas City, Missouri. They're just moving across
the river. It's not necessarily a big deal. But they're
crossing state lines, which we saw the Jets and the
Giants do as well many years ago. Some mean, this
does happen, but yeah, it just doesn't feel the same
for Chiefs fans, you know. But I got to say
that stadium it's old, and it's really loud, and it's
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a tough place to play, but it's really dated. I mean,
they need a new stadium bad now. They could have
built one nearby, but apparently they didn't get the support
for that.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, and that's the thing at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
You look at this deal and I'm putting that in
air quotes that the Chiefs signed with the State of Kansas.
I mean, the state of Kansas is basically funding this thing,
you know, and some of it may be debt, right,
I'm not sure exactly the percentage that is debt financing
versus how much is just actual taxpayer funding without delving
into the manucha of it, but as it sits right now,
it looks like the taxpayers of Kansas are funding about
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eighty percent of the stadium.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Do you live in Kansas City for a while, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Twice?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, so you would know
more about it than the vibe about the vibe there
than I would And that ownership group, and they've owned
the team since the very beginning. They seem like they're
a good group. Certainly, they've had a lot of success
over the years, for sure, But you know they've got leverage.
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They got leverage because of all of their success they've
had here the past ten years in particular, where they
can get a really good deal, like somebody is willing
to throw a couple billion dollars at them to build
a new stadium, and that made it pretty easy for
them to make the move.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I think, yeah, brings one to wonder though, I mean,
with the frustration level and the sentiment that you see
certainly online and granted to see, what you see online
is not always a reflection of real life because it's
you know, it's so homogenized in and of itself. But
you kind of wonder if on Christmas, with a team
that didn't make the playoffs and a third string quarterback
and Broncos thirteen point fail and this news, I kind
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of wonder if it's going to be that loud or
maybe even packed with Broncos fans on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I think I saw something this week that you could
buy a ticket for like thirty bucks to the game
for real.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Oh that would be cheaper, I think.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah. I think a lot of fans just are going
to sell their tickets and you can get them cheap,
and they may not even sell out, which would be
pretty interesting too. And it's kind of a I'd be
really disappointed if I'm the Chiefs ownership group or even
the Chiefs players, knowing that the fans in Kansas City,
after all that success, turned on them that quick. Yeah,
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it's been a down year, of course, but if they
don't show up at this game Christmas Night on National TV,
I think it's going to be pretty embarrassing for them.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Oh yeah, that would be a certain feather in the
Broncos cap, and the Broncos have been long suffering at
the hands of Kansas City for the last decade. This
year's earlier win notwithstanding, I think the only other win
I could think I would be the Russell Wilson win.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
We did have to win.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Last year against our backups to get in the playoffs,
but I don't think too many people are, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Worried about that.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
That was Carson Wentz and a bunch of guys that
are selling insurance.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Now as we.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Look at this thing to round out the season, you know,
if the Chargers beat the Texans this weekend, you've set
up a brawl for it all in Week eighteen. And man,
you know, I don't know about you, but being a
part of the broadcast and being able to call games
like that late and said, what does that feel like
with you? With the potential of, you know, a Week
eighteen game that matters for so many different things, it's such.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
A great feeling. Ben I harkened back to the playoff
game at Buffalo last year. Granted it wasn't a home game,
which will be amazing, but just the vibe of a
playoff game is totally different. And actually, you know, the
last two home games we've had have had that vibe,
that energy, that sense of urgency, and so I did
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get a chance to feel that, and there's nothing like it.
And getting a home playoff game will be that time
ten and this Chargers game coming up could very well
feel like a playoff game as well. That's going to
be a big, big game for both of these teams,
and you know, Broncos Country is going to show up
they're gonna make noise. And you know what, this has
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been just such an amazing season for all of us
here in Broncos Country, and me in particular. You know,
my first seven years in the booth. Everybody knows, it's
well documented. We're pretty darn bad. These last two years
have been so much fun in this one with the
potential to go get a playoff run, maybe even a
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first round by and go on a playoff run, and
I just feel so blessed to be able to do it.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, no, I hear you, man, And yeah, I'm right
there with you. It's been a lot of fun. Rack
going get back to your family. What the funk are
you still doing talking to me? We'll let you get
back to your family. Here, you have yourself. Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Well, you know you're one of my favorite people, Ben,
and you're my drum check of course. And I did
tell you we got a gig and Cobo went up
in mid April, So make sure your passport hasn't expired
because we're gonna need you.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Okay, Well, hey, don't be licking.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Any doorknobs when you're down in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
It looks real bad.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
They might not let you back in the country.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I come back with a supervirus. Oh, I've already blocked
the timeout, so your drum Tech's going to be there.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Rick, I'm just telling you all right, Love you, brother, Mary,
Christmas to you and everybody out there in Broncos Country.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yes, sir, love you to talk Edge letter. Rick lewis
the color Aados to your never Broncos. You know Rick
and Dave before I got hired, when I was still
trying out back at Orange and Blue seven sixty and
I had no radio experience whatsoever, and they had plugged
me into a morning show where they had me and
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another guy who had never met, never talked, never nothing,
and it was it was turned into three hours of
me interviewing the guy.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
It was terrible radio. And I'm trying to I'm like.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I could I know it was terrible ready because I
grew up on sports talk radio, right like I'm a guy.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I'm like, I'm a sports talk radio kind of sumer.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I consume that stuff growing up, and I'm like, I
don't know what I'm doing here.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I can't get this guy open up.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I did it, so finally, I guess you know in Rick,
Rick Lewis had been listening and I didn't really I
don't really know Rick right, Like, I didn't really know
him or anything other than I you know, I met
him through introduction, through an introduction or whatever. But we
kind of hit it off first time we talked, and
so Rick is like kind of reached out and he's like,
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hey man, you keep plugging away.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I can tell what you're trying to do.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
You know, you've got the you got the humor you're
trying to be. You know, you got the funny, you
got the this, that and the other, the quick wit,
all this kind of stuff. And he was just you know,
I just paid the comment at the right time when
I needed him as far as that kind of stuff goes.
And I didn't know, you know that he was lobbying
behind the scenes for me any that kind of stuff,
him and Dave, and I owe both those guys basically
my career.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Ryan made all the introductions that got me in here
and had had featured me on his show is like
a guest and that kind of stuff, and that led
to the tryout and then you know from there, So
between the three of the between the three of them,
I really owe.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Those three my career.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
But yeah, Rick Rick especially has been more a lot
more of that mentorship role behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
He does that for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Never ever.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Right right, He never and never wants credit for it,
never wants it, probably doesn't probably is uncomfortable be talking
about right now, but you know, never wants, never wants
credit for any of that. Never Just just the humblest, nicest,
most positive guy. And you know, whatever else you guys
know of Rick Lewis from you know, from listening to
Rick's morning show or listen to call games. I'll tell
you behind the scenes whatever you think of Ricky as
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even better person than whatever you imagine. And he has
been a big boost for me personally and a big
booster for me personally. Uh we come back. We would
check in with Alex gold you little preview of what's
going on in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Get some of those questions answers.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So if you guys have questions set up to me
at five six, six nine zero, what will be back
right for this
If you've missed the sound of my voice, well then
I'm sorry for your ears.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Should never miss the sound of my voice.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
But yes, I've been out a little out of the weather.
Uh still a little under the weather, but enough back
to be back here with you all right before Christmas.
Merry Christmas to you five six, six, nine zeros A
text line. Gonna need you guys, get involved the conversation,
A big show. We got Rick Luis going to join
us in six thirty. Thanks Ryan Edwards for totally spoiling
mystery guests that people would never have known. Alex Gold
(00:26):
at seven o five and Sean Keeler at eight thirty five.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So we'll get a chance to preview.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
The Chiefs game with Alex Gold get a chance. Talked
to Sean Keeler about his latest column. I actually and
this will be fun because I disagreed with something that
Sean said.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I missed his lad latest column. What was it?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
He was?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
He's bagging on the refs pretty hard for that Jacksonville game.
You know there were missed calls, but I didn't feel
like that game was appreciably poorly officiated.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Well for all the talk going into it, it was
like the Jags and the Broncos are both some of
the most heavy, heavily penalizzed teams. They let him play, Yeah,
and ness referee crew was supposed to call the most
penalties in the league. For all that being said, I
didn't think there were overly that many penalties.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, I didn't think they inserted themselves much. I mean,
I get it that people didn't like the call on PJ.
But you knude, you saw the quarterback drop the arm,
put the ball down. You saw people give up on
the play, even if you couldn't hear. Like, I get it,
I get where that call is coming from. I hate
that it went against us, and I hate that it happened.
I think you have to make that call.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, you have to make that was in this era,
you make that call.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It was five seconds after the whistle blue, whether it heard.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It or not, right, you know, everybody, almost everybody had
stopped at that point, and it's you know, the only
people that were still going was the big boys who
were still trying to gear down and stop their momental.
The reality of that game and the reason that we
lost is we got out coached both sides of the football.
We got out coached. We got out executed, We got
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out coached. We didn't make plays on defense that we
needed to make. You can't let five yard games become
fifty yard gains.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
And expect to win. But we got out coached.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And it's a bigger thing that Jacksonville, and I warned
everybody leading up to that game, Jacksonville wants to bait
you into a shootout. They want to bait you into
throwing the ball because they thrive on turnovers and they
want to put you in turnover type situations. Granted, one
of our turnovers came on a washed handoff, but you
know whatever, jackson That's that's what Jacksonville does. They thrive
on the extra possessions. They thrive on putting you and
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making you one dimensional.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And they did it. We knew and we knew what
they were trying to do, and we let them do
it to us.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, that I didn't even think the Broncos really played
that bad, which was what I was telling Ryman before
the show, Like that was the scarier part to me,
is that we just got beat like we got dominated,
and all all facets of the game, I.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Mean, the defense wasn't where it needs to be and
it's there's some issues with that. I think Jacksonville put
a masterclass on And I don't know if you've seen
this or not, then Curt has posted some some videos
about it where you can see. But in the group
chat that I mean, we were talking about how how
they kept getting up to the line of scrimmage right,
and the center would start doing all this this stuff,
and everybody else would be would still be getting up
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to the line of scrimam. So really what the center
was doing was theatrical in an effort to you know,
fake calling out mics and all kinds of points and
whatever else. He's really just waiting to see if his
guys are are on the line, and as soon as
they were, he would silent count, snap it, and Trevor
Lawrence would be back at the top of his drop
before any of our guys had even gotten into the backfield.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And that's how they negated.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
The pass rush, using a using a silent count in
a hostile environment. You know, whatever else you want to
be mad at the you know, the Jaguars, whatever else
you gotta take your captain.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That that was genius. It was genius move.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, and you were talking about the creativity of Liam
Cohen and their Jaguars offense, and I think it really.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Shined through in that game.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And even when we were getting sacks on Trevor Lawrence,
they were coming from right up the middle, not our
edge guys, and he was only losing like a yard
or two or I wasn't losing ten to twelve yards.
It was like almost back to the line of scrimmage
every time.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, and so.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
There's there's I think there's some there's definitely some stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
To take away from that.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You know, it sucks because you know you're looking at
this thing and you're like, all right, well, we definitely
need to win on Thursday because you know, the Chargers,
we don't know if they're gonna win or lose that game.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Excuse me against Houston, and I apologize.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
If my voice continues to break, I may may call
myself out for that on.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
This But there's you know, the Chargers have a tough
task with Houston.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The Broncos are going to be up against Christal lucan
And and the Kansas City Chiefs. Now it's at Arrowhead,
you know, on a Thursday night, on a short week,
it's always tough. But there I believe twelve and a
half point favorites in that game. And and you know,
you kind of want to go back to that Jags
game and look at the tape and say, Okay, there's
some stuff to pull out of here that people are
starting to get the blueprint on us a little bit
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that we need to change up, and you don't really
have this is like, it's the worst week to have
that happen because you got a short week. You can't
really get into that. You don't have time to do
all that as you get ready to face Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Now, maybe you'll be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You know, go out and do a you know, a
post you know, autopsy on it after the Kansas City game,
kind of do both of them, since you got the
ended before you got to play the Chargers, and at
that point you may have clinched everything from the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But yeah, it just sucks that this is like the
worst timing, even though you're getting a shorthanded Kansas City team.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yeah, And I mean they were talking a little bit
on KOA Sports. You heard a little bit with Rod
Smith and Nick Ferguson and Ryan They were talking about
style points I could care less about style.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Never cared about style.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Just beat the Chiefs, wrap up the AFC West and
call it a day. Like, just get out of there
with winning, like you said, you got a long week
after that. Then you can kind of dissect what teams
are figuring out about your your defense and your offense.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Frankly, yeah, it's it's and that's one of those things like, well,
we don't necessarily clinch the West.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
We do.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
If the Chargers lose, they have to lose to Houston.
I think they lose.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I don't know, man, I think the Chargers they were
going to lose the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I didn't think they were gonna lose the Cowboy.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
The Chargers have the type of offense that beats that
kind of defense, right, what it takes to beat because Houston.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Okay, so Houston, and I always say this because Houston.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I call him disrespectful on defense, right, And it's a
compliment to the way they play defense. It really is
not a Sean Payton small market whatever those dorks were
saying about that nonsense, but it really is the backhanded compliment.
It's a compliment to the Houston Texans, even if it
appears a bit backhanded because they don't they don't disguise anything,
and they don't blitz. They are straight up sending therefore
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and dropping the rest of them back and daring you
to beat it. And they are very very good at it.
The problem with doing that, as you've if you've ever
watched my personal man crushed Dan Quinn's defense, is that
you can run on it. You're five on four and
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they're coming up field, and so there's there's the way
to do that is to get is to get those
combo blocks and to get the run game going.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You'll run a lot of duo doing that, but.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You'll you'll see teams like the Chargers beat teams like
the Texans even short handed, if they're able to execute
in a run game, and that that's how you beat
teams like that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Now, you can't settle for field goals. You have to
you have to take the point when you give.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You can't settle for you can't go down there, you know,
three trips and score nine points and that you still
got to get in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
So you're gonna have to throw at some point.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
But the idea that the main component in beating teams
like that is to put them back on their heels
where they are unable to send their front four with
their ears pinned back every play.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
If they get you an obvious pass situations, they destroy you.
That's what they do.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
That's that's how that defense works. You have to stay patient,
run the football. And if there's any team out there
that does that, it's the La Chargers.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I was gonna say, since they've got hamped them back,
I mean, they're their run game is clicking, and Justin
Herbert's gonna, you know, take off himself.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, and he's he's banged up. Obviously they're shorthanded on
the offensive line. But I still leave the La Chargers
are gonna be formidable in that game. And I'm gonna
be honest with you if you're the conspiracy type, which
I am not, but you may be. And by the way,
that what was that comedian Ron Funchess, I think does
a great bit on the conspiracy, the conspiracy, the the
government's in charge of like eight hundred million people. I
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got one son, and I lie to that brother all
the time.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I love that bit.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I was.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It's so great. If you have a chance to watch,
you to watch it.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I'm not the conspiracy theory type, But it sure would
be beneficial to the NFL to have a matchup and
a brawl for it all the following week.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Especially if especially with this dud of a lineup in
the Christmas Day games.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You got, you got duds, you got all three duds, coach,
two duds for Netflix and a dud for Amazon coming
up on Thursday, and you've got a chance to create
the brawl for it all.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
The following week.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I'm just saying it benefits the NFL for both teams
to win.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Man, I'm here for it though, Like, these are the
games I've been waiting for since I started working these
Broncos game games. At the end of the year, we're
into we'll be into January at that point, and the
winner of that game wends the AFC West. Like that's
the stuff that gives you goosebumps as a sports fan.
Like obviously in Broncos country, you'd love to have it
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wrapped up before then, right, But for me, that's the
stuff that I signed up for.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Like, those are the games that I'm getting nammed for.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I love football, the matters, they're like late season football,
the match I love it because you get the better
you get everybody in their back, every every offensive defensive
coordinator play, They're in their bag for that stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Man, you get up for that.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
It's you just get the best kind of football games
in those situations as opposed to the real stinkers you
get when they don't matter. And if you don't think
I'm kidding, look around the league at some of these
games from teams that don't matter. We're getting another Max
Brosmer game this weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You kidding? Meet Max Brosmer.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Jasey McCarthy spend more time l injured than the Jackson Dark.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
At this point.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh, just frustrating, five six, six, nine zeros In a
text line, I want to hear from you guys.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
What do you guys got going on for Christmas?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You guys gotta be dialed into the the NBA, the NFL,
the sports that they now offer on Christmas Day? How
many people are gonna be around your family? How many
people can't stand your family? It's like, you know me,
I'm just gonna knopski.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Except for your mom. Man, Well, I love my mother. Yeah.
They just got a new dog.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
You're a dog. No, they they just got a new dog.
They got a new puppy. It's it's a little Australian
shepherd pooh sing.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Anyway, those things are adorable. No, it's totally adorable. It's
they've they're taking all these videos and just sending them
to me, and it's just that puppy just can't figure
anything out at this point. It's just like just learning
everything on the fly. It's these videos are epically hilarious.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, those are the best.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
You know, it's funny you mentioned the NBA and the
NFL on Christmas. I was having this debate with Ryan
before KOA Sports.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Today.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I feel like the NFL has officially stolen Christmas from
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Oh yeah, these are terrible matchups. Yeah, terrible matchups that
we're getting for Christmas. And I guarantee you they are
going to dwarf the NBA at least double right, at
least what ten times? Yeah, they are going to absolutely
slaughter the NBA has been triggering matchups on Christmas. The
Nuggets are going to be playing on Christmas during during
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the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Every single one of you are going to be watching
the Broncos. Well, you might flip over on commercials. I
don't know see how that goes, but yeah, it's just
one of those things.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Like it's we have absolutely hilariously bad football matchups. And
if you're Netflix, I mean you've really got to be like, really,
we can't flex any of this.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
This is what we paid for.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, the Dallas Cowboys and Washington Commanders. Nothing screams exciting
like two teams with ten wins between them and a
backup quarterback firing off another start.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
But you look at it at the beginning of the
year like this is going to be a hell of
a Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Matchup De Troit versus Minnesota. Same thing and the Battle
for five hundred, right.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
And now you're like, well, are either of these teams
even going to be in the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Probably not, But the Lions are gonna blow out the Vikings,
who are starting Max Brosmer. And then you got the
marquee matchup of the day, the Pinnacle the Crown on
Amazon on Thursday Night Football, as the Broncos take on
the Chiefs, and the Broncos remain thirteen point favorites with
an over under of thirty six and.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
A half and a quarterback for the Chiefs getting his
first ever career start.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I mean, how do you have a thirteen point spread
with a thirty six and a half over Unders.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
That's like the line you look at and you're like,
this game, this is gonna suck. From a neutral perspective, right,
hopefully it's you know, thirty five to three Broncos and
everyone's happy in Broncos Country. But all three of those
matchups you look at them at the beginning of the
year and you're like, damn, we could have three amazing,
top tier NFL matchups. And then the season plays out
and you're like, none of.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
These games are good. From it like a national perspect.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You're starting, yeah, you're starting the season off, and you're like, oh, okay,
we'll kick it off with with Dallas and Washington. We
had Dack versus Jade, and it's gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah you get that, and.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
You got Okay, well, well, even if that one's a dude,
we've still got a an intradivisional rivalry game here at
two playoff teams and Detroit Lions and Minnesota Vikings and
something called a Max brosmer Ah what uh huh, a
little chold would say. And then you got the the
Broncos taken on the dead and the water chiefs or
hemorrhaging bodies at this point on a short week.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
And it's still gonna dwarf the NBA. I know, it's
that's a that's mind blowing. NFL is king we Yeah,
it is.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
By the way, Kansas City, what a what a?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
What a?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
What a reminder to Denver Broncos fans of what great
ownership is versus bad ownership. The Chiefs are moving out
of Missouri to the state of Kansas. They're moving to Oleitha, Kansas.
I mean, this isn't just as this isn't as comically
succinct as like the Bearers moving together Indiana if that happens.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Which is a real possibility, which is and we're all
here to root on the gear Bears. But I haven't
heard that one yet. I I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, I coined that the other night Mandy Connell texted
it was there is like telling me like She's like
I couldn't stop laughing and she's at the gear Bears.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
What is wrong with you? How do you even come
up with that? The Gary, Indiana?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, thing for Chicago, which is, you know, objectively hilarious.
But and this isn't like moving to a Leatha. Kansas
is not like that funny relatively speaking. I mean, ahead
is a it's a it's a it's a tradition. I mean,
it's stadium has been there for fifty plus years.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It is the Chiefs tradition. Yeah, it is like I've
lived in Kansas twice.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I can tell you that there's there is a sentimentality
attached to that. And I will tell you there's a
lot of Chiefs fans that are very unhappy, although I
will say Missouri residents are probably happy with the the
tax lopsided black bad deal the state.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Of Kansas signed with.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
How much the way is that from where the stadium
as now to wear Kansas, Well.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, it's I mean forty minutes with traffic and everything else.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You have a take.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
I wonder what the atmosphere is going to be like
on Christmas night? Yeah, I yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I don't expect there to be a lot of Like
Arrowhead is traditionally a loud, raucous environment.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
There's a lot of disappointment both in this season, the
direction in Kansas City that the recent news I kind
of wonder if there's going to be a larger than
normal contingent of Broncos of Broncos fans there in Kansas
City for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
There's going to be I hope so. And by the way,
I didn't get a chance because I've been out sick.
I didn't get a chance to follow up with profit
And how loud was that stadium? It was Jack's crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I mean, the cameras were vibrating pretty good. I was like,
this is it's been getting louder and louder, and.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
We multiple times, Dave and Rick both were like, this
is the loudest I've ever heard the stadium.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
It was close to like I made that comment not
this week, the last the Packers game, and there's a
moment in there I was like, this is the loud
of stuff hurt this place.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And I had to because I was sick.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I had to watch the game on TV instead of
being there this past weekend, and I'm like, man, it's
just like, look at this. This looks like the loudest.
I mean, I know what the crowd noise sounds like
relative to everything else because I'm there every week.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So it's just one of those like things where you.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Sort of like you could tell you can innately tell
the hair on the back of your neck kind of
thing because you've just been around it so much. So
watching it on TV, which is a new experience for
me because I don't don't get to watch broncles on
TV that much. You know, away games, I guess at
the burn down or whatever, but I mean like games
where I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
There and I'm the it's just me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I was like, oh man, it looks like it's really
loud in there.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
It looks like it's really really loud.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Steve said last night when he was on with Nick
and Me that there was a lady in the press
box that like set her water bottled down at one
point and it was just shaking back and forth, almost
falling over from the crowd noise. While I was just
sitting in the press box, I'm like, that's the atmosphere
that you love, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And that's what you that's what you sign up for.
That's when you get into this. Those are the kind
of moments and the kind of atmosphere you want to
be around when you're doing this kind of stuff. So
it's it's a lot of fun. Five six, six nine
zeros of text line five four one. What makes Houston
able to do that disrespectful defenses with no disguise or anything.
Sounds like the plan is just having better players than
the other team instead of having a scheme that puts
your players in a good position where they're well.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
It's both.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I'm pretty sure it's both.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Houston scheme is a sound scheme first of all, but
they also do have good, good to great players. I mean,
you got Derek Stingley, one of the best corners out there,
you got one of the best pass rushers out there.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You just they have good players. They have very good players,
and they're able to do it.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
It's not to say they don't ever.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Blitz or ever disguise, but they are the least frequent
team and doing those things in the league. They just
they just they come out run their defense, and that's
you know, that's what it is. Seven to nine. I
think I gotta apologize to Ryan and Nick because I'm
pretty sure it was Ben making fun of listeners and
disregarding them about the concerns with Riley Moss, just like
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him lumping us all in together, leantles you talking heads
together and took it out on you, and I apologize
as well. Hopefully those guys are listening on their way
home and they got their apology. Uh yeah, I made
fun of listeners who didn't know what they were talking about.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That doesn't mean that.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Everybody who you know, with Riley Moss, because there were
people saying that he needs to be benched and all
that kind of stuff. And I still don't believe that,
Like Roy Moss doesn't need to be benched. He's just
you know, he's got in his head that these these
holding calls and a lot of them are phantom. You know,
that he's got it in his head that he needs
to do something. Well, then he puts the boxing gloves on,
kind of overcorrects a little bit, and now all of
a sudden the tackling has dropped a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Somebody needs to he needs to go see a sports psychologist.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
He needs to go sit down and get out of
his head on some of this stuff and reset himself.
Whatever the reputation in the league is, just go out
and be the best to you and eventually that stuff will.
You know, Fred Taylor was fragile Fred until he wasn't,
you know, And so that's one of those things. I
think I think you, you know, you kind of got
to find yourself again, and I think Riley needs to
do that a little bit. I Riley's still a good corner.
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You go back and you look at the touchdowns that
have been scored on Riley Mows. Most of them have
an incredible defensive place, but somehow they still found a
touchdown on.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
And he honestly played pretty good other than the miss tackles,
Like he had a couple of crass pass breakups.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
He had that sack.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean there were some glaring miss tackles.
And you know, if you didn't know who Washington was
before that Jaguars game, Nick said it perfectly on KO Sports,
you certainly know now because that dude is electric.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Had him on my fantasy team. He's, uh, finally a
right move by Yeah, you know, I was over two.
He's yeah, he's he's a baller. He's a good player.
And I don't want to take anything away from Jacksonville
at all. You got to tap the cap, tore those guys.
You know, they came in here, did exactly what they
needed to do. We'll get into the a little bit later.
The fake, the fake small market, slight and all that
kind of stuff. I had to get on Twitter and
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Sean cleared it up, but I already knew what they
you know what that was gonna be. What a masterclass though,
by Liam Cohen turning that into something that worked his
motivational fuel for his guys.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
We come back, We got Rick close. He listen to
Bronckos Country Night Kiawa.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah. I broke away from a little fan Christmas party
here to spend a little time with you on Christmas
Eve Eve. All right.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I feel honored, I feel I feel special and uh
it's just the season. So uh, you know, as we
were talking about earlier, it felt like and again I
wasn't there. I was up of the weather, but you were,
Dave was there broadcasting. It felt like that that jazz game.
The volume, the sound, the level of of the fan
fervor in that stadium was as loud as I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, and you need to stop licking doorknobs too. I
think we're so tasty though, right. Uh, you know what,
that's the loudest I've heard the stadium and it was
it was it was shaking, it was a vibrating that's
how loud it was, I don't know what the decibel
level was, but it was. It was just incredible, and
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they it definitely made a difference. And this last game
coming up here against the Chargers, which could be a
very big game, we need Broncos Country to come out
and make some noise again. They made a difference here
this season for sure at home and unfortunately Broncos came
up a little bit short. And I got to give
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the Jags credit. And the Jags played a really good game.
They're a really good team and they may be the
best offense in football right now.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
They are very creative.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I love what Liam Coleen does on that offense and
sort of caters to what Trevor Lawrence and his team
are good at. But more than that, they came in
with the right game plan and they got the Broncos
to play their brand of football. Jacksonville wants you throwing
the ball. They want you to be throwing it deep,
you know, into the teeth of their defense. They want
to try to generate turnovers and they want to get
you into a shootout with them, and that's not the
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Broncos game.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And they got Denver to do that.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
They did yeah, and that was maybe the worst defensive
performance I think this year from the Denver Broncos. I
couldn't believe how many misstackles they had, how many missed
assignments they had in the back end of that defense.
It seemed like guys were wide open pretty much the
whole game, even though they were putting good pressure on
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Trevor Lawrence, you know, and I thought that would be
the difference in the game because typically for him, if
you pressure him, he's not very good. And he was
making plays and also making plays with his legs. So
I give them a lot of credit. The Broncos are
better than that. We'll see a better version of the
Broncos here, certainly in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
That we will talk with Rick Lewis here WRO Broncos,
Coloradole stuff. As we look at that loss and moving forward,
it might have been, you know, you never want to
lose a game, but it might have been the opportune
time to have that happen. Right, You're getting ready for
the playoffs, you've been on a lengthy win streak, sort
of that pressure starts to build and you're like, man,
we haven't a loss in forever. You forget what that's like.
(22:48):
You know, it can be something that refocuses guys.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Oh, definitely, I think there's going to be a reset.
It definitely it got their attention, which is a good thing.
They got beat by a good team. When we were
walking out of the stadium, Dave and I I told Dave,
I said, you know what, I feel much better about
the fact they got beat by a good team. If
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we were walking out of the stadium right now and
they got beat by say the Jet or something like that,
I think we feel a whole lot worse about losing
that football game. So they got beat by a good team.
They may play again in the playoffs, and I certainly
think the Broncos can beat that football team. They just
didn't play a very good game all around. Got a
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lot of yards on offense, yeah, then, as you know,
but it just it didn't look right. It just didn't
look right, especially on defense.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
It felt like empty calories in a lot of ways
with the yardage not coming up with points. Part of
that was a misfield goal of the doink by Lutz,
and part of that was just you know, turnovers and
everything else. Broncos fans got a reminder of this week
of what good ownership they have and how bad they
could have it somewhere else. The Kansas City Chiefs, who
is their opponent on Thursday, is going to be moving
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out of Missouri into Oleitha, Kansas, and fans there are
not happy. They aren't had with a product this season,
they aren't happy with some of the decisions this season,
and they certainly aren't happy with the decision to move
out of Arrowhead Stadium, a storied, fifty plus year old stadium,
frankly over to Kansas of all places. This yet another
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reminder that ownership really does set the baseline and culture
for a lot of these football teams.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Well, what it tells me is just how special this
ownership group is. They're working on a new stadium too,
and it's not going to cause taxpayers a dime. The
new one they're going to build in Kansas, I believe
it's seventy percent is going to be funded by taxpayers,
and this ownership group's got plenty of money. They don't
have to do that. It's basically, as you know, it's
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a suburb of Kansas City, Missouri. They're just moving across
the river. It's not necessarily a big deal. But they're
crossing state lines, which we saw the Jets and the
Giants do as well many years ago. Some mean, this
does happen, but yeah, it just doesn't feel the same
for Chiefs fans, you know. But I got to say
that stadium it's old, and it's really loud, and it's
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a tough place to play, but it's really dated. I mean,
they need a new stadium bad now. They could have
built one nearby, but apparently they didn't get the support
for that.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, and that's the thing at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
You look at this deal and I'm putting that in
air quotes that the Chiefs signed with the State of Kansas.
I mean, the state of Kansas is basically funding this thing,
you know, and some of it may be debt, right,
I'm not sure exactly the percentage that is debt financing
versus how much is just actual taxpayer funding without delving
into the manucha of it, but as it sits right now,
it looks like the taxpayers of Kansas are funding about
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eighty percent of the stadium.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Do you live in Kansas City for a while, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Twice?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, so you would know
more about it than the vibe about the vibe there
than I would And that ownership group, and they've owned
the team since the very beginning. They seem like they're
a good group. Certainly, they've had a lot of success
over the years, for sure, But you know they've got leverage.
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They got leverage because of all of their success they've
had here the past ten years in particular, where they
can get a really good deal, like somebody is willing
to throw a couple billion dollars at them to build
a new stadium, and that made it pretty easy for
them to make the move.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I think, yeah, brings one to wonder though, I mean,
with the frustration level and the sentiment that you see
certainly online and granted to see, what you see online
is not always a reflection of real life because it's
you know, it's so homogenized in and of itself. But
you kind of wonder if on Christmas, with a team
that didn't make the playoffs and a third string quarterback
and Broncos thirteen point fail and this news, I kind
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of wonder if it's going to be that loud or
maybe even packed with Broncos fans on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I think I saw something this week that you could
buy a ticket for like thirty bucks to the game
for real.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Oh that would be cheaper, I think.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah. I think a lot of fans just are going
to sell their tickets and you can get them cheap,
and they may not even sell out, which would be
pretty interesting too. And it's kind of a I'd be
really disappointed if I'm the Chiefs ownership group or even
the Chiefs players, knowing that the fans in Kansas City,
after all that success, turned on them that quick. Yeah,
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it's been a down year, of course, but if they
don't show up at this game Christmas Night on National TV,
I think it's going to be pretty embarrassing for them.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Oh yeah, that would be a certain feather in the
Broncos cap, and the Broncos have been long suffering at
the hands of Kansas City for the last decade. This
year's earlier win notwithstanding, I think the only other win
I could think I would be the Russell Wilson win.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
We did have to win.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Last year against our backups to get in the playoffs,
but I don't think too many people are, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Worried about that.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
That was Carson Wentz and a bunch of guys that
are selling insurance.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Now as we.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Look at this thing to round out the season, you know,
if the Chargers beat the Texans this weekend, you've set
up a brawl for it all in Week eighteen. And man,
you know, I don't know about you, but being a
part of the broadcast and being able to call games
like that late and said, what does that feel like
with you? With the potential of, you know, a Week
eighteen game that matters for so many different things, it's such.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
A great feeling. Ben I harkened back to the playoff
game at Buffalo last year. Granted it wasn't a home game,
which will be amazing, but just the vibe of a
playoff game is totally different. And actually, you know, the
last two home games we've had have had that vibe,
that energy, that sense of urgency, and so I did
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get a chance to feel that, and there's nothing like it.
And getting a home playoff game will be that time
ten and this Chargers game coming up could very well
feel like a playoff game as well. That's going to
be a big, big game for both of these teams,
and you know, Broncos Country is going to show up
they're gonna make noise. And you know what, this has
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been just such an amazing season for all of us
here in Broncos Country, and me in particular. You know,
my first seven years in the booth. Everybody knows, it's
well documented. We're pretty darn bad. These last two years
have been so much fun in this one with the
potential to go get a playoff run, maybe even a
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first round by and go on a playoff run, and
I just feel so blessed to be able to do it.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, no, I hear you, man, And yeah, I'm right
there with you. It's been a lot of fun. Rack
going get back to your family. What the funk are
you still doing talking to me? We'll let you get
back to your family. Here, you have yourself. Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Well, you know you're one of my favorite people, Ben,
and you're my drum check of course. And I did
tell you we got a gig and Cobo went up
in mid April, So make sure your passport hasn't expired
because we're gonna need you.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Okay, Well, hey, don't be licking.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Any doorknobs when you're down in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
It looks real bad.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
They might not let you back in the country.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I come back with a supervirus. Oh, I've already blocked
the timeout, so your drum Tech's going to be there.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Rick, I'm just telling you all right, Love you, brother, Mary,
Christmas to you and everybody out there in Broncos Country.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yes, sir, love you to talk Edge letter. Rick lewis
the color Aados to your never Broncos. You know Rick
and Dave before I got hired, when I was still
trying out back at Orange and Blue seven sixty and
I had no radio experience whatsoever, and they had plugged
me into a morning show where they had me and
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another guy who had never met, never talked, never nothing,
and it was it was turned into three hours of
me interviewing the guy.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
It was terrible radio. And I'm trying to I'm like.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I could I know it was terrible ready because I
grew up on sports talk radio, right like I'm a guy.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I'm like, I'm a sports talk radio kind of sumer.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I consume that stuff growing up, and I'm like, I
don't know what I'm doing here.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I can't get this guy open up.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I did it, so finally, I guess you know in Rick,
Rick Lewis had been listening and I didn't really I
don't really know Rick right, Like, I didn't really know
him or anything other than I you know, I met
him through introduction, through an introduction or whatever. But we
kind of hit it off first time we talked, and
so Rick is like kind of reached out and he's like,
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hey man, you keep plugging away.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I can tell what you're trying to do.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
You know, you've got the you got the humor you're
trying to be. You know, you got the funny, you
got the this, that and the other, the quick wit,
all this kind of stuff. And he was just you know,
I just paid the comment at the right time when
I needed him as far as that kind of stuff goes.
And I didn't know, you know that he was lobbying
behind the scenes for me any that kind of stuff,
him and Dave, and I owe both those guys basically
my career.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Ryan made all the introductions that got me in here
and had had featured me on his show is like
a guest and that kind of stuff, and that led
to the tryout and then you know from there, So
between the three of the between the three of them,
I really owe.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Those three my career.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
But yeah, Rick Rick especially has been more a lot
more of that mentorship role behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
He does that for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Never ever.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Right right, He never and never wants credit for it,
never wants it, probably doesn't probably is uncomfortable be talking
about right now, but you know, never wants, never wants
credit for any of that. Never Just just the humblest, nicest,
most positive guy. And you know, whatever else you guys
know of Rick Lewis from you know, from listening to
Rick's morning show or listen to call games. I'll tell
you behind the scenes whatever you think of Ricky as
(32:42):
even better person than whatever you imagine. And he has
been a big boost for me personally and a big
booster for me personally. Uh we come back. We would
check in with Alex gold you little preview of what's
going on in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Get some of those questions answers.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So if you guys have questions set up to me
at five six, six nine zero, what will be back
right for this
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