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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
At least one detainee is dead and touring critical condition
following a shooting at a Dallas ice facility. That's according
to Homeland Security, who earlier in the day said two
detainees were dead and this was yesterday. Turns out one's
dead too or critical. The shooter has reportedly been identified
as twenty nine year old Joshua John. He was found
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dead from a self inflicted gunshot wound at a nearby apartment building.
The FBI's investigating the shooting as an act of targeted violence.
FBI Director Cash Bettel posted a picture on x of
shellcasings engraved with the phrase anti ICE that were found
at the scene. No ICE agents who are injured in
the shooting. The Department of Homeland Security says it's going
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to immediately ramp up security nationwide.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
This is just horrible, and I don't care whether there's
victims were here, you know, illegally or not. Those are
human lives that were lost at least one. We don't
know about the others. I so listen, I'm gonna pray
for them. This is sick and disturbing the amount of
rhetoric that's led up to this. The administration is not wrong.
VP Vance yesterday said there's no tolerance for people who
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quite literally are enforcing the law doing their jobs, these
ICE agents. Yet you have I mean, we could go
down a laundry list of Democrats who are out here.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Sent Gavin newsom Ice agents.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
He's out here saying that there won't be any twenty
twenty eight elections and they're gonna suppress voter turnout. Jasmine
Crockett Dallas is her district and she's calling them slave patrols.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Tim Walls, I could you know?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Hakeem Jeffries said he was threatening the whole unmasking and
doxing of these agents. Rise up against a gestapo. That's
a representative. Guy's name is John Larson. Americans need to
rise up. I mean, the quotes go on and on.
In Boston's mayor Michelle Wu talked about ICE agents, compare
them to neo Nazis, calling them Trump's secret police. This
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rhetoric is more than just dangerous, it's becoming deadly.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well, it's important to point out that this shooter was
not targeting these detainees. He was targeting ICE agents, and
he fired on a van that had ICE agents, but
it also had these detainees, and he ended up killing
one of these detainees and injuring the other two. But
those were not his targets. The target was ICE agents.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
And these ICE agents continue to be targeted all over
the place, whether the van's tires are getting slashed or
the you know, hateful rhetoric that's coming from these lawmakers
out here. What do you expect is going to happen
when you're telling, you know, people who seemingly we don't
know a whole lot about this shooter right now, but
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enough to know the guy was a lunatic, murderous lunatic.
And didn't he also fire upon the building as well.
There are bullets that penetrated windows. I mean, this could
have been far worse. It's awful already.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
It sounds like he wasn't a very good marksman, is
what it sounds like. And he was firing these shots
and yeah, several of them went through the windows of
the building. And they've went out of their way to
say this is not the only case of ICE coming
under attack. Like you said, you know, it's dangerous for
these ICE agents, It's dangerous for the cops. It's dangerous
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for anybody in law enforcement right now with all of
this hatred that's being ginned up against them.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
If your political rhetoric encourages violence against our law enforcement,
you can.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Go straight to hell. And you have no place in.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
The political conversation of the United States of America.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
And I would agree.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Vice President j d Vance yesterday from the podium reacting
to the breaking news and the LUs on Jimmy Kimmel,
the President weighing in.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Jimmy Kimmel's comeback Mine Along has brought in at least
fifteen million views on YouTube and Instagram. Sainclaire Next Star
will continue to preempt to Jimmy Kimmel alive as their
standoff with Disney and ABC continues. While a return date
remains unclear, Nexttar has said it is engaged in productive
discussions with executives at the Walt Disney Company. Kim Will
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returned from a week long suspension on Tuesday, but viewers
of Sinclair's thirty eight ABC affiliates and Nexstar's twenty eight
ABC affiliates missed down on his comeback both companies are
refusing to air the show in protest of comments the
comedian had made related to the death of conservative activist
Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Got to wonder if those constructive conversations are going to
include Kimmel. All he had to do was say the
killer was not Maga, and he didn't do that in
r did he apologize through his crocodile tears.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Disney shareholders are threatening legal action over this temporary suspension.
On Wednesday, a team of lawyers send Disney a letter
saying company executives may have breached their fiduciary duties by
placing improper political considerations above the best interests of the shareholders.
The letter said Disney stocks suffered significant declines in response
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to its decision, which appeared to be in response to
threats from the FCC.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Well, Disney has had a bad couple of months here,
my god, between low turnout at the parks to them
raising their rates on their subscriptions. I mean, you got
to wonder if that plays into it too. But is
the president right? Aren't Kimmel's ratings pretty bad and he's
kind of costing the company?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, he's not Cobert, So I mean I don't know.
I don't know what the financials look like for the
Jimmy Kimmel Show.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Well, interesting that it's the use of shareholders who are
pushing back, so they're literally threatening to sue Disney the
actual shareholders.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yes, well, they sent them a letter saying they've breached
their fiduciary duties by placing improper political considerations above the
best interest of the stockholders. They say that the stock
suffered significant declines in response to their decision to suspend
the Jimmy Kimmel Show, and that that appeared to be
in response to threats from the SCC and they're threatening
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to sue them.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
See the appearance of that. We don't really know.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Maybe the stocks went down because people didn't want to
be associated with someone like Kimmel. I mean, how do
we exactly know the timing of this is all kind
of colliding. So because their stocks went down doesn't exactly
mean that all the people who may have pulled, you know,
their finances from being associated with this on the side
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with which they're pressing it. Could, you know, be however,
many people we don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
We don't know how many.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
People pulled their support of Disney and why specifically. I
find it interesting that they're leaning well, they'll have.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
To prove it. Well, they'll have to prove it in court.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
It'll be interesting to see if they can.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well, they're just leaning pro stockholders. So they're being you know,
they're saying, look, you did financial damage to the stockholders,
and your judiciary duty is to the stockholders.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, again, I'd be curious to see how they prove that,
you know, the stock suffered because Kimmel was taken off
the air versus Kimmel being Kimmel in the first place.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
You know what I'm saying, Well, I suppose a timeline
could establish that. I don't know if that's good enough
in court, but.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, and then speaking of timeline, you go down the
list of you know where Trump is saying, you know,
we could bring a lawsuit of his own. He's done
it to ABC before with George Stefanopolis and one he's
touting that in his latest truth but he meant fifteen
million dollars. That was a defamation case and was it
CBS with the other one with there's.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Kamala and he won that lawsuit, you know, for the
editing Kamala Harris's interview to make her look more coherent,
and he argued that that was an illegal campaign contribution.
That's what he's arguing in this case with Jimmy Kimmel
is that by reinstating him and keeping him on the
air and spewing what he spews, that he's nothing more
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than an extension of another arm of the Democratic Party
and that's an illegal campaign contribution. With the ABC case
that was I think sixteen million dollars. He won, and
that was because George Stephanophoulis referred to him as a rapist,
and of course he was never convicted of being a rapist.
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They all want to say that now, that's why they
did this. That's why that crazy cat lady e Gene
Carroll sued him over what was virtually like all of
the details of her case matched some old CSI show
and she's a crazy lady, and so she went after
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him and that was in civil court and she sued
him over him saying she was a crazy for accusing
him of doing this and that he wasn't her type
in all of this, and that's what that lawsuit was
over that she won, and then George Stephanophoulis goes on
TV and calls him a convicted rapist, and then everybody
keeps spreading this false rumor that Trump is a convicted rapist.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
We'll be interesting to see if he actually brings suit,
if this is going to get ABC's intention, and then
you know it's going to draw more ire from the left,
who continues to try to say that he's a dictator
and this is an assault on free speech, which we
know it's not well.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And it's starting to get messy because now you have
the shareholders of Disney threatening to sue Disney. And so
I think that I brought this up yesterday that Disney
has put themselves in the position where they can win.
They've stuck between a rock and a hard place. They're
going to lose no matter what. So we'll see what
happens if the President follows through on his threat to sue.
We'll see if the shareholders follow through on their threat
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to sue. The White House is unveiling its new Presidential
Walk of Fame. The collection is positioned just outside of
the Oval Office and features portraits of US presidents, with
the exception of former President Biden. For former President Biden,
the White House opted to use a framed photo of
an autopen writing his signature. President Trump and his allies
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have focused on Biden's alleged juice of the autopen, which
can be used to sign official documents in place of
a manual signature, and raised questions about is the president
former president Biden's cognitive abilities while in office.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
And if you've seen the pictures in the.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Video, kind of funny because it cuts down all of
the past presidents and you get to you know, and
then you see like Bush and then Obama and then
Trump and then you see the auto pen and then
you see Trump again.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
We know his troll game is strong. This is more
evidence of it. And while it's funny, is this him
sort of walking and moving on from autopen or not?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
No, I well, where this is him ramping it up?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Some Some are like, wait, I know we can laugh
about it, but you know, if we had an autopen president,
are we going to see some justice? Do we have
anything to prove that this is true? There are a
lot of controversial partons. There's you know, reckless laws that
you know could have been illegally you know, pushed through.
If that's the case, and so there are a lot
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of people wanting justice and feeling like they're never going
to see it.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
So well, it would be hard to prove and it
would also I mean, think of what a mess this
would create. I don't know they're going after him with that,
and then you'd have to go back and see what
every president signed with an autopen and call in the
question whether it's valid. And I you know, I think
move forward. So I think this in business. I think
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that in life you have to move forward. You can't
do all in the past too much, or you expend
way too much energy on things that have already happened.
And there's also unforeseen circumstances to it. So I like
that he's trolling them and all of that. But the
Republicans saying that, you know, they're calling into question the
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legality and all that. That's all politics, kabuki theater, and
nothing's going to come of that. They're not going to
undo what Biden did with the auto pen. Think about
like when a prosecutor gets caught doing something wrong and
then every single person that has been prosecuted by that prosecutor,
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once their case reopened, you know, they've already been tried, convicted,
they're in jail. Calls everything into question. Same thing with
this president. So if they could prove it, and I
don't think they could as far as you know, to
meet the letter of the law in court that and
declare Biden was not capable in his position while he
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was president, then everything he did as president is null
and void.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Think about this.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well, I mean I think that people are thinking about it.
Do we have anybody whistleblower or otherwise who are willing
to get up and actually.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Say yes, this is the case.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
And I understand that this sounds massive, unprecedented, completely historical,
but look at the times that we are in, I
mean this previous administration. When we say reckless and feckless,
I'd like to see some receipts, frankly, and a lot
of people out there, you know, whether it causes you know,
some of the things that you're describing.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Then what if we don't.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
If we are in a nation of laws, then what
are we I mean, you know, yes, it would upend
a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, I don't think they can prove this, and it
doesn't everybody from here to Tim buck two can line
up and say he was out of his mind.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
But who are they.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Let's hearsay, Well, if there are people within the administration
who can prove that this is okay.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I want to pretend I'm the lawyer in this hut.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Well that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Okay, are you a doctor, sir? Are you a brain search?
And how much experience do you have in evaluating patients
and declaring their official medical condition.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I'm talking about whistleblowers within the administration who could prove
that the autopen was being used.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
To we know the autopen was used. They don't have
to prove that. What they have to prove is that
somebody else used the autopen, not Biden, And they have
to prove that Biden was out of his mind and
didn't know what he was doing and did not direct
those people to do that.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Well, the what starts with what I was trying to say,
which is someone who I witnessed this?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
This is who did it? I can prove it?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Not good enough?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It starts there, and we have the Herd Report, we
have sitting you know, people within the government who said
this guy was out of his mind. I didn't say
it so egregiously, but I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
But what I'm saying saying some receipts are arguing the
point that he was not out of his mind. You
know what I think of Biden. I mean, he's one
of the most one of the top people that I
disrespect on this earth. But it's going to be hard
to prove in a court case. It doesn't matter how
many whistleblowers come out and say, well, I saw him
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do this, and I saw him do that, and I
think he was out of his mind.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Oh are you a doctor, sir? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
So, and I'm making it very simple, but that's what's
going to happen. It's hard. You need to prove. You're
sitting in a courtroom. You need to prove it. It's
not what somebody's opinion is. Yeah, of course, and so
anybody that comes in there as a whistleblower that says
he was out of his mind, that's just their opinion.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Well, sadly, I don't think that there are people who
are going to do this. I wish that they would,
but I think that we had already maybe heard or
seen from them.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I think they're just using this to get people fired
up and keep reminding them of what it was like
under Biden, and do I think anything's ever going to
come of this? No, And I get it. We're getting
talk backs like believe you know what these people hold
responsible for what they did, and you with the law
and order and all of this. I mean, it's Washington,
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and I mean, are we really going to go down
this where every administration that comes along just so this
is the new norm. This is going to sue the
president over everything, and they're going to try to throw
everybody in jail. And of course we know Washington's a
swamp and that these people probably should be in jail,
But let's just get rid of them and fix the
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problems in the government and then maybe you can go
after them. I don't think anything's ever going to come.
I think it's wasted time. And I think that that
time spent on all of that is for politics, and
I think it would be much better spent on improving
this country as we move forward, rather than taking revenge
as we look backwards.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well, if we don't stand up to anwo just like
one of the talkbacks said about being a double edged sword,
doesn't matter who's in power, they're not going to be
able to do the job that you just laid out
if we continue to have reckless political law, fair and
all of these other things that are basically wadding up
our constitution and throwing it in the trash.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I mean, someone's got to stand up for the rule
of law.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
But I think that that's I think you're living in fantasyland,
is what I'm is what I'm getting at. I don't
disagree with those things, but to think that you're gonna
throw Joe Biden or James Comey or somebody in jail,
I think that there's no way that's gonna happen. And again,
it's not that it doesn't frustrate me. It's not that
I don't disagree with what they did, but what else
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is new?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
At least one detainee is dead and touring critical condition
following a shooting at a Dallas ice facility. That's according
to Homeland Security, who earlier in the day said two
detainees were dead and this was yesterday. Turns out one's
dead too or critical. The shooter has reportedly been identified
as twenty nine year old Joshua John. He was found
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dead from a self inflicted gunshot wound at a nearby apartment building.
The FBI's investigating the shooting as an act of targeted violence.
FBI Director Cash Bettel posted a picture on x of
shellcasings engraved with the phrase anti ICE that were found
at the scene. No ICE agents who are injured in
the shooting. The Department of Homeland Security says it's going
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to immediately ramp up security nationwide.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
This is just horrible, and I don't care whether there's
victims were here, you know, illegally or not. Those are
human lives that were lost at least one. We don't
know about the others. I so listen, I'm gonna pray
for them. This is sick and disturbing the amount of
rhetoric that's led up to this. The administration is not wrong.
VP Vance yesterday said there's no tolerance for people who
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quite literally are enforcing the law doing their jobs, these
ICE agents. Yet you have I mean, we could go
down a laundry list of Democrats who are out here.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Sent Gavin newsom Ice agents.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
He's out here saying that there won't be any twenty
twenty eight elections and they're gonna suppress voter turnout. Jasmine
Crockett Dallas is her district and she's calling them slave patrols.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Tim Walls, I could you know?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Hakeem Jeffries said he was threatening the whole unmasking and
doxing of these agents. Rise up against a gestapo. That's
a representative. Guy's name is John Larson. Americans need to
rise up. I mean, the quotes go on and on.
In Boston's mayor Michelle Wu talked about ICE agents, compare
them to neo Nazis, calling them Trump's secret police. This
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rhetoric is more than just dangerous, it's becoming deadly.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well, it's important to point out that this shooter was
not targeting these detainees. He was targeting ICE agents, and
he fired on a van that had ICE agents, but
it also had these detainees, and he ended up killing
one of these detainees and injuring the other two. But
those were not his targets. The target was ICE agents.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
And these ICE agents continue to be targeted all over
the place, whether the van's tires are getting slashed or
the you know, hateful rhetoric that's coming from these lawmakers
out here. What do you expect is going to happen
when you're telling, you know, people who seemingly we don't
know a whole lot about this shooter right now, but
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enough to know the guy was a lunatic, murderous lunatic.
And didn't he also fire upon the building as well.
There are bullets that penetrated windows. I mean, this could
have been far worse. It's awful already.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
It sounds like he wasn't a very good marksman, is
what it sounds like. And he was firing these shots
and yeah, several of them went through the windows of
the building. And they've went out of their way to
say this is not the only case of ICE coming
under attack. Like you said, you know, it's dangerous for
these ICE agents, It's dangerous for the cops. It's dangerous
(03:27):
for anybody in law enforcement right now with all of
this hatred that's being ginned up against them.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
If your political rhetoric encourages violence against our law enforcement,
you can.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Go straight to hell. And you have no place in.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
The political conversation of the United States of America.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
And I would agree.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Vice President j d Vance yesterday from the podium reacting
to the breaking news and the LUs on Jimmy Kimmel,
the President weighing in.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Jimmy Kimmel's comeback Mine Along has brought in at least
fifteen million views on YouTube and Instagram. Sainclaire Next Star
will continue to preempt to Jimmy Kimmel alive as their
standoff with Disney and ABC continues. While a return date
remains unclear, Nexttar has said it is engaged in productive
discussions with executives at the Walt Disney Company. Kim Will
(04:14):
returned from a week long suspension on Tuesday, but viewers
of Sinclair's thirty eight ABC affiliates and Nexstar's twenty eight
ABC affiliates missed down on his comeback both companies are
refusing to air the show in protest of comments the
comedian had made related to the death of conservative activist
Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Got to wonder if those constructive conversations are going to
include Kimmel. All he had to do was say the
killer was not Maga, and he didn't do that in
r did he apologize through his crocodile tears.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Disney shareholders are threatening legal action over this temporary suspension.
On Wednesday, a team of lawyers send Disney a letter
saying company executives may have breached their fiduciary duties by
placing improper political considerations above the best interests of the shareholders.
The letter said Disney stocks suffered significant declines in response
(05:08):
to its decision, which appeared to be in response to
threats from the FCC.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Well, Disney has had a bad couple of months here,
my god, between low turnout at the parks to them
raising their rates on their subscriptions. I mean, you got
to wonder if that plays into it too. But is
the president right? Aren't Kimmel's ratings pretty bad and he's
kind of costing the company?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, he's not Cobert, So I mean I don't know.
I don't know what the financials look like for the
Jimmy Kimmel Show.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Well, interesting that it's the use of shareholders who are
pushing back, so they're literally threatening to sue Disney the
actual shareholders.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yes, well, they sent them a letter saying they've breached
their fiduciary duties by placing improper political considerations above the
best interest of the stockholders. They say that the stock
suffered significant declines in response to their decision to suspend
the Jimmy Kimmel Show, and that that appeared to be
in response to threats from the SCC and they're threatening
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to sue them.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
See the appearance of that. We don't really know.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Maybe the stocks went down because people didn't want to
be associated with someone like Kimmel. I mean, how do
we exactly know the timing of this is all kind
of colliding. So because their stocks went down doesn't exactly
mean that all the people who may have pulled, you know,
their finances from being associated with this on the side
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with which they're pressing it. Could, you know, be however,
many people we don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
We don't know how many.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
People pulled their support of Disney and why specifically. I
find it interesting that they're leaning well, they'll have.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
To prove it. Well, they'll have to prove it in court.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
It'll be interesting to see if they can.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well, they're just leaning pro stockholders. So they're being you know,
they're saying, look, you did financial damage to the stockholders,
and your judiciary duty is to the stockholders.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, again, I'd be curious to see how they prove that,
you know, the stock suffered because Kimmel was taken off
the air versus Kimmel being Kimmel in the first place.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
You know what I'm saying, Well, I suppose a timeline
could establish that. I don't know if that's good enough
in court, but.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, and then speaking of timeline, you go down the
list of you know where Trump is saying, you know,
we could bring a lawsuit of his own. He's done
it to ABC before with George Stefanopolis and one he's
touting that in his latest truth but he meant fifteen
million dollars. That was a defamation case and was it
CBS with the other one with there's.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Kamala and he won that lawsuit, you know, for the
editing Kamala Harris's interview to make her look more coherent,
and he argued that that was an illegal campaign contribution.
That's what he's arguing in this case with Jimmy Kimmel
is that by reinstating him and keeping him on the
air and spewing what he spews, that he's nothing more
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than an extension of another arm of the Democratic Party
and that's an illegal campaign contribution. With the ABC case
that was I think sixteen million dollars. He won, and
that was because George Stephanophoulis referred to him as a rapist,
and of course he was never convicted of being a rapist.
(08:33):
They all want to say that now, that's why they
did this. That's why that crazy cat lady e Gene
Carroll sued him over what was virtually like all of
the details of her case matched some old CSI show
and she's a crazy lady, and so she went after
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him and that was in civil court and she sued
him over him saying she was a crazy for accusing
him of doing this and that he wasn't her type
in all of this, and that's what that lawsuit was
over that she won, and then George Stephanophoulis goes on
TV and calls him a convicted rapist, and then everybody
keeps spreading this false rumor that Trump is a convicted rapist.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
We'll be interesting to see if he actually brings suit,
if this is going to get ABC's intention, and then
you know it's going to draw more ire from the left,
who continues to try to say that he's a dictator
and this is an assault on free speech, which we
know it's not well.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And it's starting to get messy because now you have
the shareholders of Disney threatening to sue Disney. And so
I think that I brought this up yesterday that Disney
has put themselves in the position where they can win.
They've stuck between a rock and a hard place. They're
going to lose no matter what. So we'll see what
happens if the President follows through on his threat to sue.
We'll see if the shareholders follow through on their threat
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to sue. The White House is unveiling its new Presidential
Walk of Fame. The collection is positioned just outside of
the Oval Office and features portraits of US presidents, with
the exception of former President Biden. For former President Biden,
the White House opted to use a framed photo of
an autopen writing his signature. President Trump and his allies
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have focused on Biden's alleged juice of the autopen, which
can be used to sign official documents in place of
a manual signature, and raised questions about is the president
former president Biden's cognitive abilities while in office.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
And if you've seen the pictures in the.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Video, kind of funny because it cuts down all of
the past presidents and you get to you know, and
then you see like Bush and then Obama and then
Trump and then you see the auto pen and then
you see Trump again.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
We know his troll game is strong. This is more
evidence of it. And while it's funny, is this him
sort of walking and moving on from autopen or not?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
No, I well, where this is him ramping it up?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Some Some are like, wait, I know we can laugh
about it, but you know, if we had an autopen president,
are we going to see some justice? Do we have
anything to prove that this is true? There are a
lot of controversial partons. There's you know, reckless laws that
you know could have been illegally you know, pushed through.
If that's the case, and so there are a lot
(11:32):
of people wanting justice and feeling like they're never going
to see it.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
So well, it would be hard to prove and it
would also I mean, think of what a mess this
would create. I don't know they're going after him with that,
and then you'd have to go back and see what
every president signed with an autopen and call in the
question whether it's valid. And I you know, I think
move forward. So I think this in business. I think
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that in life you have to move forward. You can't
do all in the past too much, or you expend
way too much energy on things that have already happened.
And there's also unforeseen circumstances to it. So I like
that he's trolling them and all of that. But the
Republicans saying that, you know, they're calling into question the
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legality and all that. That's all politics, kabuki theater, and
nothing's going to come of that. They're not going to
undo what Biden did with the auto pen. Think about
like when a prosecutor gets caught doing something wrong and
then every single person that has been prosecuted by that prosecutor,
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once their case reopened, you know, they've already been tried, convicted,
they're in jail. Calls everything into question. Same thing with
this president. So if they could prove it, and I
don't think they could as far as you know, to
meet the letter of the law in court that and
declare Biden was not capable in his position while he
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was president, then everything he did as president is null
and void.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Think about this.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well, I mean I think that people are thinking about it.
Do we have anybody whistleblower or otherwise who are willing
to get up and actually.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Say yes, this is the case.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
And I understand that this sounds massive, unprecedented, completely historical,
but look at the times that we are in, I
mean this previous administration. When we say reckless and feckless,
I'd like to see some receipts, frankly, and a lot
of people out there, you know, whether it causes you know,
some of the things that you're describing.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Then what if we don't.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
If we are in a nation of laws, then what
are we I mean, you know, yes, it would upend
a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, I don't think they can prove this, and it
doesn't everybody from here to Tim buck two can line
up and say he was out of his mind.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
But who are they.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Let's hearsay, Well, if there are people within the administration
who can prove that this is okay.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I want to pretend I'm the lawyer in this hut.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Well that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Okay, are you a doctor, sir? Are you a brain search?
And how much experience do you have in evaluating patients
and declaring their official medical condition.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I'm talking about whistleblowers within the administration who could prove
that the autopen was being used.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
To we know the autopen was used. They don't have
to prove that. What they have to prove is that
somebody else used the autopen, not Biden, And they have
to prove that Biden was out of his mind and
didn't know what he was doing and did not direct
those people to do that.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Well, the what starts with what I was trying to say,
which is someone who I witnessed this?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
This is who did it? I can prove it?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Not good enough?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It starts there, and we have the Herd Report, we
have sitting you know, people within the government who said
this guy was out of his mind. I didn't say
it so egregiously, but I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
But what I'm saying saying some receipts are arguing the
point that he was not out of his mind. You
know what I think of Biden. I mean, he's one
of the most one of the top people that I
disrespect on this earth. But it's going to be hard
to prove in a court case. It doesn't matter how
many whistleblowers come out and say, well, I saw him
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do this, and I saw him do that, and I
think he was out of his mind.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Oh are you a doctor, sir? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
So, and I'm making it very simple, but that's what's
going to happen. It's hard. You need to prove. You're
sitting in a courtroom. You need to prove it. It's
not what somebody's opinion is. Yeah, of course, and so
anybody that comes in there as a whistleblower that says
he was out of his mind, that's just their opinion.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Well, sadly, I don't think that there are people who
are going to do this. I wish that they would,
but I think that we had already maybe heard or
seen from them.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I think they're just using this to get people fired
up and keep reminding them of what it was like
under Biden, and do I think anything's ever going to
come of this? No, And I get it. We're getting
talk backs like believe you know what these people hold
responsible for what they did, and you with the law
and order and all of this. I mean, it's Washington,
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and I mean, are we really going to go down
this where every administration that comes along just so this
is the new norm. This is going to sue the
president over everything, and they're going to try to throw
everybody in jail. And of course we know Washington's a
swamp and that these people probably should be in jail,
But let's just get rid of them and fix the
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problems in the government and then maybe you can go
after them. I don't think anything's ever going to come.
I think it's wasted time. And I think that that
time spent on all of that is for politics, and
I think it would be much better spent on improving
this country as we move forward, rather than taking revenge
as we look backwards.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well, if we don't stand up to anwo just like
one of the talkbacks said about being a double edged sword,
doesn't matter who's in power, they're not going to be
able to do the job that you just laid out
if we continue to have reckless political law, fair and
all of these other things that are basically wadding up
our constitution and throwing it in the trash.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I mean, someone's got to stand up for the rule
of law.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
But I think that that's I think you're living in fantasyland,
is what I'm is what I'm getting at. I don't
disagree with those things, but to think that you're gonna
throw Joe Biden or James Comey or somebody in jail,
I think that there's no way that's gonna happen. And again,
it's not that it doesn't frustrate me. It's not that
I don't disagree with what they did, but what else
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is new?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
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