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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Running down today's top stories on a Tuesday edition, this
show Welcome in Good Morning.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseeth is directing the military to put
a pause on the recruitment of new transgender individuals. Hegg
Seth is also ordering the suspension of planned procedures for
current service members with gender dysphoria. This comes along with
President Trump's executive order that essentially bans trans military service.
Heg Seth wrote in a memorandum for senior Pentagon leadership,
(00:41):
efforts to split our troops along the lines of identity
weakens our force and makes us vulnerable. Yesterday, hegg Seth
also signed a memorandum renaming Fort Liberty in North Carolina
back to Fort Rowland L. Bragg.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Many people never ever called it anything than Fort Bragg
if you ever looked at any of their social posts,
which I followed the fort on social I mean quite literally,
people in the comments went out of their way to
make sure and say it's Fort Bragget's, Fort Bragget's Fort Bragg.
It just went to show that they were not on
board with us the woke renaming of these military forts.
(01:20):
But this is a ripple effect. The idea of getting
DEI and you know, all these woke policies out of
our military, which has nothing to do with us being
force ready, is popular, so popular that as soon as
Trump won the presidency back in November and then move
into December, a fifteen year record high number of people
(01:42):
signed up to serve in the army because he ran
on getting woke and DEI out of the military.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, I agree with the statement that Hegsat said is
that you know, it makes us vulnerable and it is
an effort to split our troops along the lines of identity.
Doesn't belong in the military. The military has one job,
and that's to protect the citizens of the United States
of America. And they are a fighting force and to
(02:12):
pretend that it's anything other than that is dangerous in
my opinion.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, not only that it opens the door those policies
and this whole culture shift, it had to open the
door to taxpayer funded trans surgeries and all these other things.
Like I say, ripple effects.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Is what I'm saying. It's like that's not the job
of the military. It's not like, oh, I'm going to
join the military because I want to get a sex
change operation and that's an easy way to get it
paid for, is to go serve my country. I mean
that's disturbing to me.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, it is. It's disturbing to people who were serving
or even wanted to serve. So congratulations, way to go,
you know the Defense secretary there, Pete Hegseth renaming Fort
Bragg after Biden renamed it Fort Liberty. The ripple effect also, so,
by the way, last time I was in the area
and in Fayetteville was when I checked off a bucket list.
(03:06):
I threw myself out of a perfectly good airplane on
my birthday and happened to be jumping with the Golden
Knights on board, which was really cool, and one of
them shared my birthday that day, which was ironic. But
afterwards grubbed at a local pub and started having a
conversation with a man who was running for their local council.
This is about two years ago. Yes, this previous birthday,
(03:29):
he was running for his local council. Because they were
also not just trying to rename Fort Bragg, they were
trying to rename Fort Bragg Boulevard. Their local council was
trying to, you know, flip all the names, and he
said this, we can't have this. This is a you know,
sort of a line in the sand. And I don't
know if he ever run won his election, but it
was just interesting, so interesting to see now that it's
(03:50):
you know, where the pushback will come from if there's
any on renaming anything else.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Sure, well, what do you think about the renaming of
the bases? What do you think about trends in the military.
Do they have a place in the military. Seven to
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Speaker 1 (04:15):
This is Charleston's Morning News with Kelly and Blaze.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
See we were just talking about transgender policies and the
military being called back, specifically with Pete Hegseth, and also
the renaming Bragg is back, Fort Bragg no longer Fort Liberty,
and Hallelujah. In North Carolina this.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Morning, Darryl called in said he was surprised that they
didn't name, it rename it Fort drag Hey.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That that's a good one, Darryl, that's a good one. Oh.
But the it's truly telling the culture shift of things,
the idea that just in November, I'm sorry, December alone,
the recruitment numbers in the army alone hit a fifteen
(05:05):
year high. Now that you know Trump was to be
the incoming president after the November election, then there was
a course, the pushback against Pete hegseeth and look it
continues to be between the two of these men. Promises may,
promises kept. I'm here for it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, I mean, it's interesting. So the you know, the
Fort Bragg name change. So I believe the way that
this is framed is I don't know if it's named
in the second go round after the original brag that
it was named after. So I'm trying to dig into
this because and this is this goes more towards reporting
(05:45):
and trying to and we complain about this all the time,
trying to get the facts straight. You'll see these little
things in these articles, right, and it's never you know,
in the news business, we used to have a rule
the five w's who, what, when, where, why? And nobody
does that anymore. And so there's just this smattering of facts.
And you know, it said in the story that I
(06:09):
reported that it was being renamed after Roland L. Bragg,
who was a World War II hero. Now I don't
know if this is bad reporting or if this was
done on purpose. The original Fort Brag, of course, was
named after a Civil War Confederate general Brag so well, and.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It wasn't the only one renamed go over to Georgia
and Benning and others. There are names that they went
after in different forts across the country. Frankly who yes,
they tied it with the original intent of what you're
just talking about with the Civil War Confederate Brag and
that's how they went at least they peddled this to
the public that these are It was along with the
(06:51):
statues coming down and you know, this whole erasure of history.
That's at least how they pushed this through under the
Biden regime that you know, well, right.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
And this is my point. So when they changed it
to Fort Liberty, it was because, oh it was named
after a Confederate and that's racist, right. And then now
when they're reporting that, you know, Pete Hegseth has renamed
it back to Fort Bragg. It says the new name
pays tribute to Pfc. Roland L. Bragg, a World War
(07:21):
II hero who earned the Silver Star in Purple Heart
for his exceptional courage during the Battle of the Bulge.
So that's a different brag.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well. Either way, I'm glad the name's back and more
to come on that. Meanwhile, like I said, the ripple
effective things. This will be interesting to see and I'm
here for it, whether it's the local people in that
area protecting their Brag Boulevard and other things that I
(07:50):
mentioned before the break where I ran into a guy
who was like, this is you know, Kelly, this is
this is affecting our community in so many different ways
other than just change a sign outside of the fort.
I mean, there's a brag Boulevard there. You know, it's
a name historically that has built up an area, been
built up in an area that that frankly needed protecting.
(08:13):
And this man, I wish I'm trying to find his
name to see if he actually made it to his
council because he said his counsel Frankly was a nonpartisan.
You know how these non partisan races are I think
city council for example. People don't have to say which
way they lean, but you can tell by how they vote.
But his council, he said, was more blue than red.
And this guy definitely leaned, you know, more conservative and Republican.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
But well, we need to rename Charleston because it's named
after a king.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, think about this, Think of all the history can
go about the line that needs to be drawn on,
rewriting of history or racing it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Frankly right, you can keep going down that rabbit hole
forever and playing politics with it. And you know, and
hopefully we're back to some common sense here.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
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Speaker 2 (09:13):
Welcome in Tuesday edition of the program here on ninety
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seven two one, eight two five five. That's eight four
to three, seven to two one talk mentioned SLED. The
State Law Enforcement Division here in South Carolina has a
confirmed and open investigation of voyeurism and assault that's underway
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after our representative in the first Congressional District had quite
a fiery speech last night from the floor of Congress.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
We're covering this morning's top stories. The South Carolina Law
Enforcement Division confirmed Monday night and it has an active
investigation in the accusations of assault, voyeurism, and harassment involving
four men, including the former fiance of US Representative Nancy May.
Sled open an investigation regarding allegations of assault, harassment, and
voyeurism on December fourteenth, twenty twenty three, after being contacted
(10:09):
by the United States Capitol Police, sled spokesperson Rene Wonderlick
said in a statement. Since that date, SLEDD has conducted
multiple interviews, served multiple search warrants, and has a well
documented case file that will be available for release upon
the conclusion of the case.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
So it's interesting, you said at the top of the
hour there it was, as she said, She said, Well,
I think it's important to address the other side what
he has said out here. This morning, there was a
statement released by your ex fiancee saying, I categorically deny
these allegations. I take this matter seriously. I will cooperate
fully with any necessary legal process to clear my name.
(10:49):
There are other names and pictures and identities that she
you know, of his business partners she put out there.
I'll refrain from using their names because they haven't been
charged with anything. None of the names in pictures and
photos and all that that have been put out here have,
whether it was local, jurisdicdition, or state what you just
(11:09):
mentioned led to investigation.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Well, you know, I mean, we actually debated about covering
this story because I'm like, this is totally unfair.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Well, I think the other he said I want to
add to this is the is the Attorney General, Alan Wilson.
He says, Miss Mace either doesn't understand or is purpose
purposefully mischaracterizing the role of the Attorney General. He says,
at this time, our office hasn't received any reports or
requests for assistance from any law enforcement or prosecution agencies
(11:40):
regarding these matters. He says. Additionally, the Attorney General and
members of his office have no role and no knowledge
of these allegations until you know these public statements that
she made last night. So in my mind, as I'm
watching all of this, I'm reading his statements. Feels pretty political,
given the fact that they both may be running for governor.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, you know, let's start at the beginning. So she
says that she was essentially roofed with some vodka drinks,
that she discovered these videos of inappropriateness with girls and
she was one of them, and accuses these men of
taking part in this. There's no local police reports that
(12:21):
this ever happened in any of the jurisdictions where any
of these men live. It was reported to the Capitol
police by Nancy Mays a couple of now going on,
a couple of years ago, right, this was December of
twenty twenty three, so over a year ago anyway, And
so there's no record of this happening. There's no reports
(12:44):
to the local police, no investigations by the local police.
She didn't report it, seemingly from the details that we
know now, didn't report it to the local police. But
then gets up there and drags these guys' names through
the mud on you know, on the house floor, and
then she accuses the state Attorney General Alan Wilson of
(13:07):
sitting on this story. When he's the state prosecutor. The
case is that he investigates have to be referred to
him by law enforcement agencies in South Carolina. And so
it's totally unfair that she also lumps him in on
this story when he has nothing to do with it,
(13:28):
and when there is no investigations going on other than
this sled investigation which was instigated by the Capitol Police
in Washington, DC. So this is why it's this thing
reeks of tabloidism to me, And I really didn't even
want to talk about it because we're dragging these poor
guys' names and we're not going to use them on purpose.
(13:51):
But this is her just getting up there and spewing
out a bunch of accusations against these four men and
also against the Attorney General of South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Well, there's one side of it. There's the other side
of it that potentially exposes a really seedy, dark underworld
of apps and online dating and you know, a potential
for you to become a victim that you didn't even
know about. There are so many layers to this story,
which is why I realize many people are reacting, you know,
(14:21):
emotionally on you know, some of this. I'm looking at
some of the reaction online now rather than maybe not
focus on the laws that she's proposed, because she herself
is admitting sadly that she's become a victim herself. You know, listen,
Safe Shelters Act. I'm reading into the Rape Shield Enhancement Act,
the Sue and Stop Voyeurs Act, to Stop Revenge Porn Act,
(14:44):
whether we like it or not, dating apps and online dating,
and I mean, it's really put generations of women and men,
frankly and pretty vulnerable situations to become unknowing victims. So
there's a lot to parse out here, I believe with
this story.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Well, you know, and this goes back to to December
of twenty twenty three when it was referred by the
Capitol Police to sled, So it happened before that. How
Come she hasn't mentioned it until now? How Come she
didn't file any kind of local police report on Sullivan's
Island where this supposedly occurred, or to the Charleston Police
(15:18):
or Daniel Island. I think she lives in Charleston. How
come she didn't do any of that? And then now
so and we don't know when this supposedly took place,
we know that it was over a year ago, and
we know that she hasn't said anything about it until now.
It just seems really unfair to me that it's brought
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up in this manner.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Well, again, we need to remind everyone that because she's
a congresswoman, she shielded from potential criminal prosecution and civil
lawsuits by the Constitution's Speech and Debate Clause. This provides
lawmakers with immunity for quote acts taken within the legislatives
spear So be mindful of where she did what she did.
(16:05):
If you're asking the why she did it.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well I'm asking why she did it at this point,
and why she decided to use her position in the
United States government to out her former fiance over something
that happened along, you know, a fairly long time ago
in the scope of things. So I don't know, and
I don't you know. And again I don't want to
(16:28):
question if it really did happen. I mean, I don't
want to cast her in a bad light, but this
just does not smell right to me, and I don't
think that her approach is the right one in trying
to expose the story.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Now, Charleston's Morning News with Kelly and Place.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Interesting the reaction here we are talking about the Mace
story making national headlines locally here, first, Congressional congresswoman, you know,
very openly exposing so much my goodness on the floor
of Congress last night.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
And let's you know, let's be straight about it. Whether
she's exposing anything, we don't know. She blobbed a bunch
of accusations.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Now she openly admitted that she she herself, you know,
was a victim to you know, being taped and videoed
without her knowledge. She's got pictures and video of thousands
of others. In her speech, she even said she had to,
you know, tell a woman that she was raped and
didn't even know that. You know, this woman didn't know
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she was raped, wasn't caught on tape. I mean, this
goes pretty deep. And I know a lot of people,
like I said before, are reacting on emotions and rather
not the law she proposed, and that would be a
shame because she I mean, it took no matter what
you think about her motives, I mean this, this took
a lot for her to stand up and say I'm
(17:55):
a victim here. And it looks like she's exposing quite
a sick and seedy, pervasive, dark world of the web
and herself admitting sadly, very publicly that she became entangled in.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
But the web, I don't. She's not going after the
dark side of the web. She's going after her former
fiance and three of his business associates, which is the
and the attorney general of the state of South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Well, and again it's why I shared at least publicly
her ex fiance's statement, you know, saying that he denies
categorically all of this, and also the you know, current
top cop our state attorney general saying, wait a minute,
this is the first we're hearing.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Of this, and this is not the way this works.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I mean pretty much in part it was a much
longer statement, right for you all to get the point
or picture there. Yeah, yeah, but I again, there is
a culture, whatever her motives, she's you know, these thousands
of videos and photos that she, you know, says she's
got and found. And I agree with you got to
go through the process, you know, of women who never
(19:04):
knew they were being recorded, exposed this dating apps and
online dating. This opens a whole nother conversation, you know,
whether one wants to make it about Mason the process,
or if she's you know, setting herself up to run
for governor and all this other stuff. This really is.
But generationally, women and men and vulnerable situations to become
unknowing victims. And this has been going on sadly for years.
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I have heard horrifying story, horrifying stories to me from
younger women in dating world who I immediately advise, don't
you ever put yourself in a situation like that for
you to become a potential victim. I mean, they're horrifying
to me. I mean, there are a lot of very
trusting people who don't realize, how you know, pervasive people
(19:47):
and their sicknesses and perversions can be. So the fact
that she brought up safe shields act in things that
I would have never thought unless you're a victim trying
to fight back, I suppose that you wouldn't know that
you need sue and stop voyeurs act, stop revenge porn act.
I mean, I don't want to ignore these things.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Well, again, I think it's unfair these men have not
been charged. There were no police reports. There was a
police report too, the Capitol Police in Washington, DC, far
away from where this supposedly occurred, and then they reported
it to SLED. So SLED is doing their investigation. So
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I guess we'll see how Sled's investigation turns out, and
that ought to be the scope of it, and then
if there's something there there, then we can go drag
these guys' names through the mud. But in the meantime,
you can't ignore the fact that this is her former
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fiance and three other gentlemen who have not been charged
with any crimes, and to implicate them on the house
floor and then implicate the Attorney General of South Carolina
for quote not doing anything about it. I'm paraphrasing, I don't.
(21:14):
It's unseemly to me.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Maybe this reaction, this mace thing smells off. I predict
a train wreck ahead. There's other comments that we can share,
but you can weigh into talk back feature on the
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Running down today's top stories on a Tuesday edition, this
show Welcome in Good Morning.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseeth is directing the military to put
a pause on the recruitment of new transgender individuals. Hegg
Seth is also ordering the suspension of planned procedures for
current service members with gender dysphoria. This comes along with
President Trump's executive order that essentially bans trans military service.
Heg Seth wrote in a memorandum for senior Pentagon leadership,
(00:41):
efforts to split our troops along the lines of identity
weakens our force and makes us vulnerable. Yesterday, hegg Seth
also signed a memorandum renaming Fort Liberty in North Carolina
back to Fort Rowland L. Bragg.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Many people never ever called it anything than Fort Bragg
if you ever looked at any of their social posts,
which I followed the fort on social I mean quite literally,
people in the comments went out of their way to
make sure and say it's Fort Bragget's, Fort Bragget's Fort Bragg.
It just went to show that they were not on
board with us the woke renaming of these military forts.
(01:20):
But this is a ripple effect. The idea of getting
DEI and you know, all these woke policies out of
our military, which has nothing to do with us being
force ready, is popular, so popular that as soon as
Trump won the presidency back in November and then move
into December, a fifteen year record high number of people
(01:42):
signed up to serve in the army because he ran
on getting woke and DEI out of the military.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, I agree with the statement that Hegsat said is
that you know, it makes us vulnerable and it is
an effort to split our troops along the lines of identity.
Doesn't belong in the military. The military has one job,
and that's to protect the citizens of the United States
of America. And they are a fighting force and to
(02:12):
pretend that it's anything other than that is dangerous in
my opinion.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, not only that it opens the door those policies
and this whole culture shift, it had to open the
door to taxpayer funded trans surgeries and all these other things.
Like I say, ripple effects.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Is what I'm saying. It's like that's not the job
of the military. It's not like, oh, I'm going to
join the military because I want to get a sex
change operation and that's an easy way to get it
paid for, is to go serve my country. I mean
that's disturbing to me.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, it is. It's disturbing to people who were serving
or even wanted to serve. So congratulations, way to go,
you know the Defense secretary there, Pete Hegseth renaming Fort
Bragg after Biden renamed it Fort Liberty. The ripple effect also, so,
by the way, last time I was in the area
and in Fayetteville was when I checked off a bucket list.
(03:06):
I threw myself out of a perfectly good airplane on
my birthday and happened to be jumping with the Golden
Knights on board, which was really cool, and one of
them shared my birthday that day, which was ironic. But
afterwards grubbed at a local pub and started having a
conversation with a man who was running for their local council.
This is about two years ago. Yes, this previous birthday,
(03:29):
he was running for his local council. Because they were
also not just trying to rename Fort Bragg, they were
trying to rename Fort Bragg Boulevard. Their local council was
trying to, you know, flip all the names, and he
said this, we can't have this. This is a you know,
sort of a line in the sand. And I don't
know if he ever run won his election, but it
was just interesting, so interesting to see now that it's
(03:50):
you know, where the pushback will come from if there's
any on renaming anything else.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Sure, well, what do you think about the renaming of
the bases? What do you think about trends in the military.
Do they have a place in the military. Seven to
two one Talks seven two five is the landline number
for the ninety four to three WSC studio this morning.
Don't forget about the talkback feature if you're listening online
or on our app.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
This is Charleston's Morning News with Kelly and Blaze.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
See we were just talking about transgender policies and the
military being called back, specifically with Pete Hegseth, and also
the renaming Bragg is back, Fort Bragg no longer Fort Liberty,
and Hallelujah. In North Carolina this.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Morning, Darryl called in said he was surprised that they
didn't name, it rename it Fort drag Hey.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That that's a good one, Darryl, that's a good one. Oh.
But the it's truly telling the culture shift of things,
the idea that just in November, I'm sorry, December alone,
the recruitment numbers in the army alone hit a fifteen
(05:05):
year high. Now that you know Trump was to be
the incoming president after the November election, then there was
a course, the pushback against Pete hegseeth and look it
continues to be between the two of these men. Promises may,
promises kept. I'm here for it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, I mean, it's interesting. So the you know, the
Fort Bragg name change. So I believe the way that
this is framed is I don't know if it's named
in the second go round after the original brag that
it was named after. So I'm trying to dig into
this because and this is this goes more towards reporting
(05:45):
and trying to and we complain about this all the time,
trying to get the facts straight. You'll see these little
things in these articles, right, and it's never you know,
in the news business, we used to have a rule
the five w's who, what, when, where, why? And nobody
does that anymore. And so there's just this smattering of facts.
And you know, it said in the story that I
(06:09):
reported that it was being renamed after Roland L. Bragg,
who was a World War II hero. Now I don't
know if this is bad reporting or if this was
done on purpose. The original Fort Brag, of course, was
named after a Civil War Confederate general Brag so well, and.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It wasn't the only one renamed go over to Georgia
and Benning and others. There are names that they went
after in different forts across the country. Frankly who yes,
they tied it with the original intent of what you're
just talking about with the Civil War Confederate Brag and
that's how they went at least they peddled this to
the public that these are It was along with the
(06:51):
statues coming down and you know, this whole erasure of history.
That's at least how they pushed this through under the
Biden regime that you know, well, right.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
And this is my point. So when they changed it
to Fort Liberty, it was because, oh it was named
after a Confederate and that's racist, right. And then now
when they're reporting that, you know, Pete Hegseth has renamed
it back to Fort Bragg. It says the new name
pays tribute to Pfc. Roland L. Bragg, a World War
(07:21):
II hero who earned the Silver Star in Purple Heart
for his exceptional courage during the Battle of the Bulge.
So that's a different brag.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well. Either way, I'm glad the name's back and more
to come on that. Meanwhile, like I said, the ripple
effective things. This will be interesting to see and I'm
here for it, whether it's the local people in that
area protecting their Brag Boulevard and other things that I
(07:50):
mentioned before the break where I ran into a guy
who was like, this is you know, Kelly, this is
this is affecting our community in so many different ways
other than just change a sign outside of the fort.
I mean, there's a brag Boulevard there. You know, it's
a name historically that has built up an area, been
built up in an area that that frankly needed protecting.
(08:13):
And this man, I wish I'm trying to find his
name to see if he actually made it to his
council because he said his counsel Frankly was a nonpartisan.
You know how these non partisan races are I think
city council for example. People don't have to say which
way they lean, but you can tell by how they vote.
But his council, he said, was more blue than red.
And this guy definitely leaned, you know, more conservative and Republican.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
But well, we need to rename Charleston because it's named
after a king.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, think about this, Think of all the history can
go about the line that needs to be drawn on,
rewriting of history or racing it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Frankly right, you can keep going down that rabbit hole
forever and playing politics with it. And you know, and
hopefully we're back to some common sense here.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
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Speaker 2 (09:13):
Welcome in Tuesday edition of the program here on ninety
four to three WS we'll get to your talkback taps.
Certainly your calls are welcome to join the conversation at
seven two one, eight two five five. That's eight four
to three, seven to two one talk mentioned SLED. The
State Law Enforcement Division here in South Carolina has a
confirmed and open investigation of voyeurism and assault that's underway
(09:38):
after our representative in the first Congressional District had quite
a fiery speech last night from the floor of Congress.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
We're covering this morning's top stories. The South Carolina Law
Enforcement Division confirmed Monday night and it has an active
investigation in the accusations of assault, voyeurism, and harassment involving
four men, including the former fiance of US Representative Nancy May.
Sled open an investigation regarding allegations of assault, harassment, and
voyeurism on December fourteenth, twenty twenty three, after being contacted
(10:09):
by the United States Capitol Police, sled spokesperson Rene Wonderlick
said in a statement. Since that date, SLEDD has conducted
multiple interviews, served multiple search warrants, and has a well
documented case file that will be available for release upon
the conclusion of the case.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
So it's interesting, you said at the top of the
hour there it was, as she said, She said, Well,
I think it's important to address the other side what
he has said out here. This morning, there was a
statement released by your ex fiancee saying, I categorically deny
these allegations. I take this matter seriously. I will cooperate
fully with any necessary legal process to clear my name.
(10:49):
There are other names and pictures and identities that she
you know, of his business partners she put out there.
I'll refrain from using their names because they haven't been
charged with anything. None of the names in pictures and
photos and all that that have been put out here have,
whether it was local, jurisdicdition, or state what you just
(11:09):
mentioned led to investigation.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Well, you know, I mean, we actually debated about covering
this story because I'm like, this is totally unfair.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Well, I think the other he said I want to
add to this is the is the Attorney General, Alan Wilson.
He says, Miss Mace either doesn't understand or is purpose
purposefully mischaracterizing the role of the Attorney General. He says,
at this time, our office hasn't received any reports or
requests for assistance from any law enforcement or prosecution agencies
(11:40):
regarding these matters. He says. Additionally, the Attorney General and
members of his office have no role and no knowledge
of these allegations until you know these public statements that
she made last night. So in my mind, as I'm
watching all of this, I'm reading his statements. Feels pretty political,
given the fact that they both may be running for governor.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, you know, let's start at the beginning. So she
says that she was essentially roofed with some vodka drinks,
that she discovered these videos of inappropriateness with girls and
she was one of them, and accuses these men of
taking part in this. There's no local police reports that
(12:21):
this ever happened in any of the jurisdictions where any
of these men live. It was reported to the Capitol
police by Nancy Mays a couple of now going on,
a couple of years ago, right, this was December of
twenty twenty three, so over a year ago anyway, And
so there's no record of this happening. There's no reports
(12:44):
to the local police, no investigations by the local police.
She didn't report it, seemingly from the details that we
know now, didn't report it to the local police. But
then gets up there and drags these guys' names through
the mud on you know, on the house floor, and
then she accuses the state Attorney General Alan Wilson of
(13:07):
sitting on this story. When he's the state prosecutor. The
case is that he investigates have to be referred to
him by law enforcement agencies in South Carolina. And so
it's totally unfair that she also lumps him in on
this story when he has nothing to do with it,
(13:28):
and when there is no investigations going on other than
this sled investigation which was instigated by the Capitol Police
in Washington, DC. So this is why it's this thing
reeks of tabloidism to me, And I really didn't even
want to talk about it because we're dragging these poor
guys' names and we're not going to use them on purpose.
(13:51):
But this is her just getting up there and spewing
out a bunch of accusations against these four men and
also against the Attorney General of South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Well, there's one side of it. There's the other side
of it that potentially exposes a really seedy, dark underworld
of apps and online dating and you know, a potential
for you to become a victim that you didn't even
know about. There are so many layers to this story,
which is why I realize many people are reacting, you know,
(14:21):
emotionally on you know, some of this. I'm looking at
some of the reaction online now rather than maybe not
focus on the laws that she's proposed, because she herself
is admitting sadly that she's become a victim herself. You know, listen,
Safe Shelters Act. I'm reading into the Rape Shield Enhancement Act,
the Sue and Stop Voyeurs Act, to Stop Revenge Porn Act,
(14:44):
whether we like it or not, dating apps and online dating,
and I mean, it's really put generations of women and men,
frankly and pretty vulnerable situations to become unknowing victims. So
there's a lot to parse out here, I believe with
this story.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Well, you know, and this goes back to to December
of twenty twenty three when it was referred by the
Capitol Police to sled, So it happened before that. How
Come she hasn't mentioned it until now? How Come she
didn't file any kind of local police report on Sullivan's
Island where this supposedly occurred, or to the Charleston Police
(15:18):
or Daniel Island. I think she lives in Charleston. How
come she didn't do any of that? And then now
so and we don't know when this supposedly took place,
we know that it was over a year ago, and
we know that she hasn't said anything about it until now.
It just seems really unfair to me that it's brought
(15:39):
up in this manner.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Well, again, we need to remind everyone that because she's
a congresswoman, she shielded from potential criminal prosecution and civil
lawsuits by the Constitution's Speech and Debate Clause. This provides
lawmakers with immunity for quote acts taken within the legislatives
spear So be mindful of where she did what she did.
(16:05):
If you're asking the why she did it.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well I'm asking why she did it at this point,
and why she decided to use her position in the
United States government to out her former fiance over something
that happened along, you know, a fairly long time ago
in the scope of things. So I don't know, and
I don't you know. And again I don't want to
(16:28):
question if it really did happen. I mean, I don't
want to cast her in a bad light, but this
just does not smell right to me, and I don't
think that her approach is the right one in trying
to expose the story.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Now, Charleston's Morning News with Kelly and Place.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Interesting the reaction here we are talking about the Mace
story making national headlines locally here, first, Congressional congresswoman, you know,
very openly exposing so much my goodness on the floor
of Congress last night.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
And let's you know, let's be straight about it. Whether
she's exposing anything, we don't know. She blobbed a bunch
of accusations.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Now she openly admitted that she she herself, you know,
was a victim to you know, being taped and videoed
without her knowledge. She's got pictures and video of thousands
of others. In her speech, she even said she had to,
you know, tell a woman that she was raped and
didn't even know that. You know, this woman didn't know
(17:35):
she was raped, wasn't caught on tape. I mean, this
goes pretty deep. And I know a lot of people,
like I said before, are reacting on emotions and rather
not the law she proposed, and that would be a
shame because she I mean, it took no matter what
you think about her motives, I mean this, this took
a lot for her to stand up and say I'm
(17:55):
a victim here. And it looks like she's exposing quite
a sick and seedy, pervasive, dark world of the web
and herself admitting sadly, very publicly that she became entangled in.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
But the web, I don't. She's not going after the
dark side of the web. She's going after her former
fiance and three of his business associates, which is the
and the attorney general of the state of South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Well, and again it's why I shared at least publicly
her ex fiance's statement, you know, saying that he denies
categorically all of this, and also the you know, current
top cop our state attorney general saying, wait a minute,
this is the first we're hearing.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Of this, and this is not the way this works.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I mean pretty much in part it was a much
longer statement, right for you all to get the point
or picture there. Yeah, yeah, but I again, there is
a culture, whatever her motives, she's you know, these thousands
of videos and photos that she, you know, says she's
got and found. And I agree with you got to
go through the process, you know, of women who never
(19:04):
knew they were being recorded, exposed this dating apps and
online dating. This opens a whole nother conversation, you know,
whether one wants to make it about Mason the process,
or if she's you know, setting herself up to run
for governor and all this other stuff. This really is.
But generationally, women and men and vulnerable situations to become
unknowing victims. And this has been going on sadly for years.
(19:27):
I have heard horrifying story, horrifying stories to me from
younger women in dating world who I immediately advise, don't
you ever put yourself in a situation like that for
you to become a potential victim. I mean, they're horrifying
to me. I mean, there are a lot of very
trusting people who don't realize, how you know, pervasive people
(19:47):
and their sicknesses and perversions can be. So the fact
that she brought up safe shields act in things that
I would have never thought unless you're a victim trying
to fight back, I suppose that you wouldn't know that
you need sue and stop voyeurs act, stop revenge porn act.
I mean, I don't want to ignore these things.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Well, again, I think it's unfair these men have not
been charged. There were no police reports. There was a
police report too, the Capitol Police in Washington, DC, far
away from where this supposedly occurred, and then they reported
it to SLED. So SLED is doing their investigation. So
(20:30):
I guess we'll see how Sled's investigation turns out, and
that ought to be the scope of it, and then
if there's something there there, then we can go drag
these guys' names through the mud. But in the meantime,
you can't ignore the fact that this is her former
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fiance and three other gentlemen who have not been charged
with any crimes, and to implicate them on the house
floor and then implicate the Attorney General of South Carolina
for quote not doing anything about it. I'm paraphrasing, I don't.
(21:14):
It's unseemly to me.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Maybe this reaction, this mace thing smells off. I predict
a train wreck ahead. There's other comments that we can share,
but you can weigh into talk back feature on the
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here at to ninety four to three WSC Tap it.
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you think here this morning.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
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