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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yes, this is Charleston's Morning News with Kelly and Blaze.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
The man accused of killing conservative activist Charlie Kirk can
wear regular clothes during his trial. The Utah judge and
the case made his ruling yesterday, adding that Taler Robinson
is presumed innocent and potential jurors seeing him in prison
attire would be prejudicial. The ruling also applies to any
in person hearings with the next one cent for January.
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Robinson will also be required to wear constraints while in court,
but the media is forbidden to show them. Robinson is
accused of shooting and killing Kirk at a speaking event
in September.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm taking deep breaths on this one. I just I
this news came down after I'd just seen a post
by his widow. So you have Erka Kirk sitting looked
like behind maybe someone else was driving them, but her
little girl there, toddler now left without a father because
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of this horrific assassination. As they are turning into the
turning Point USA parking lot, and she's saying, you know,
very just gleefully saying, daddy, Charlie, Charlie Kirk. It just
it broke my heart because this guy should be made
an example of and not be given special treatment to.
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And someone will say, well, this isn't really special treatment.
I just it's not special treat no mercy for this
dude who has quite literally admitted in text. There's all
other evidence, and I know a trial has to be
you know, by law, we have to have a trial here. No,
I get.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
It, Well, you can't be judge. Jury and execution can't
help it.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
This is this one, This one hits deep, not just
for me, for a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well I realize that, but a lot of people need
to realize that the judge is actually trying to protect
any kind of conviction that they get against this murderer
so that it can't be challenged that it was prejudicial.
And you could argue that bringing out somebody for their
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court case in an orange jumpsuit and constraints would be prejudicial.
So the judges are ruling he's trying to cut that
off at the head, right, So right from the get go,
he's trying to prevent any kind of challenge to what
ultimately happens in his courtroom.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I hope that this is a quick and speedy trial
that's all I can say. I mean, there's a lot
that we've had to digest, and that's putting it mildly
with regards to I mean, listen to what we were
talking about before the break. We're dealing with lunatics who
believe if you don't agree, you know, if I don't
agree with you, it's violence, and they're justifying assassinations. So
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I you know, no mercy for this dude who's writing
on bullets and sending texts and all the other things,
all the multiple ways laid out by cash Betel on
the FBI and other investigators. I just I pray for
a quick and speedy and just trial and judgment in
this well.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
There's a ton of evidence pointing to his guilt, including
his own words, that will come out in court. And
you have to believe in the justice system. If you don't,
then I mean, it's anarchy and we're done for So,
you know, look at it like this judge is protecting
the process, and he's protecting what the jury ultimately finds
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in this case, and he's preventing the lawyers that are
in this murderer's defense to challenge what happen in this courtroom.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
In any way.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So you know a lot of people come out and say, oh,
this level of judge and he should be paraded out
and should be punished. Well, you know what, you have
to prove him guilty at first. He's presumed innocent until then.
So the judge is protecting the process so it can't
be challenged in the future. Minnesota man's facing federal charges
in connection with an alleged murder for a high plot
involving US Attorney General Pam Bondi. Thirty year old Tyler
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Maxon Avalos is accused of making a TikTok post featuring
a photo of Bondi with a sniperscope a red dot
on her forehead, as well as the text wanted Pam
Bondy reward forty five thousand dollars dead or alive, preferably dead.
The posters reported to the FBI in October ninth. Avalos
has a criminal history that includes a twenty twenty two
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felony stalking conviction and a twenty sixteen misdemeanor domestic assault conviction.
He made an initial court appearance in Minneapolis earlier this
month and was released on a personal recognisant bond recognisance
bond last week.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, here we go soft on crime.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
H we've got of course it was Minneapolis, right.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Well, I mean, let's deep dive on this for a second,
because we know they're crazies out there. We already know
when someone's off kilter, the slightest thing can be triggering. Right,
COVID turned the world up side down, so you had
the strong they pulled up the bootstraps, you know, kept
the wheels rolling. The week, cracked the middle, well, the
middle of the road, hung on for dear life, right,
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just got through it best you could. And meantime, in
the midst of all of that, you've got these caustic,
dastardly politicians using the opportunity to further turn us into
the divided States of America. They honed in on their nasty,
caustic rhetoric. And they haven't hit the brakes since, not
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even post two attempted assassinations on President Trump, not even
post Charlie Kirk assassination. They've hit the gas pedal on it.
So you've got these loonies out here who may be
on the edge, which this guy already had a record,
would he wasn't held you know, responsible for and they
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just continue. It's really concerning. We're in such concern many
times in our country. I mean sometimes I'm at a
loss for words.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, well, I can't believe he was released in a
personal recognizance bun Well.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, I think the same thing about many of these
other you know, blue state judges and attorneys general. And
I mean I'm looking in Charlotte, North Carolina, a lot
of these cases after that poor child was you know,
knife to death on the subway there, and there's just
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case after case after case of people, you know, whether
it's rap sheets that are you know, just three inches thick,
It's like, how is this person on the street? And
we have an entire party of you know, politicians and
people who are voting for them and continue to put
them in office, who embrace I mean, look at mom, Donnie,
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you know from the stage over the was it over
the weekend? You know, they don't they don't want law enforcement,
they don't need law. Who needs laws? Of course, what's
the point of having laws if we don't actually enforce them?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well, how many times have you heard that these people
who have been on the radar of somebody and nothing
was done, and then they go do a horrific act.
And then this guy has a violent past, and then
he puts up a wanted poster for Pam Bond. He
wanted dead or live, offers a forty five thousand dollars reward,
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and then he gets released on his own personal recognissance.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well, and I will add to my remarks that it
breaks my heart for law enforcement officers who do their
job to enforce our laws and put these people in cuffs.
They stuff them and they cuff them, and you know,
you have these judges and so on that just you know,
let these people go, let them plead down to chart,
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you know, lesser charges and move on. Thing to see here.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Yeah, I don't like that phrase. They stuff them.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
With what you've never heard cuff and stuff?
Speaker 4 (08:08):
He said, they stuff them and cuff them.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Well I should have said, cuff.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
What are they stuffing them? More?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
They them and stuffed them into the back of a cruiser.
Puff and stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I'm just I'm just laughing at the stuffing them with stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I'm sorry, it's close to Thanksgiving fall on my mind,
or you do.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
But the well, I mean, the point being is that
what do you gotta do to get arrested? In Minneapolis?
I guess not things off the table on letting you go.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Well, I mean there's a there's a couple of lanes
on this one, because law enforcement, you know, was devastated
by officers putting their lives on the line every day.
Think about how criminalized you know under the previous president
back to Obama made law enforcement and then you know
you got the whole Joys George Floyd thing, and it
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just continued on and good people left the force, and
it left people behind who maybe shouldn't even have the job.
They're more like, you know, social justice warriors with a badge,
and so they're not out there arrested people. We see
that kind of stuff in Portland and turn in a
blind eye.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Basically, well, this guy was arrested. This is the justice
system that's doing this, not the ploy.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I said, there's multiple lanes.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
So why the hell did they let him go?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Why did they let him out, you know, on a
bond after he posts forty five thousand dollars reward for
killing a federal official there?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I mean there, I can't answer that. To me. That
is complete insanity.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Right, And so that's what we have to look at,
is like why are these insane. Are these the same?
You know, where did these judges come from? And why
is this happening?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, many of them are appointed. If I know in
the case I mentioned, the Charlotte case. You know, many
of these people don't even have the you know, legal
background to even be doing what they're doing. You don't
have the chops.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, they got to get the activism out of the
judge ships yes, and start, you know. And if you
don't like the law, change the law. And that's the
political part of it. The politics don't belong in the judiciary.
The politics belong in politics. If you don't like the law,
change the law. But if it's the law, it's the
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judge's job to enforce the law and and make sure
that justice is served and to protect people ultimately well.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And it just also, I mean, who polices the judges
At the end of the.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Day, AUTH already saying. Indian man is facing charges after
he allegedly stamp two teens with a metal fork on
a flight from Chicago to Germany. Saturday's from Chicago to Frankfurt,
Germany was diverted to Boston, where the twenty eight year
old man was taken into custody the US Attorney's Office
says priteenth or rather preneath usir A Polly, has been
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charged with assault with a deadly weapon with intent to
do bodily harm. One seventeen year old passenger was stabbed
in his left clavicle, while another was wounded in the
back of his head. The suspect was once admitted to
the US and a student visa, but was not in
the country lawfully.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I was looking to see what flight, what airline this was,
because on's the last time you've been on an airplane
and able to get your hands on an actual, real
metal fork on a plane.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Well, this user a poly guy. Well what I question is,
you know what my I have a birthday coming up,
my driver's license about to expire. I don't have a
real idea yet. I'm like, what do you need for
a real idea? And they're like, okay, well you need
your birth certificate and you know all this other crap.
And I won't even get into how much this all
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pisces me off. But anyway, or you can't get on
a domestic flight in the United States, and especially not
an international one. And if you can't do that without
a real idea and having to show all this proof.
How the hell did this usera poly guy from India
that's here illegally, get on this flight out of Chicago
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to begin with?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, yeah, how'd you get into our country? Why are
you still here? Now you're moving amongst us and attacking us.
I mean, this is a massive concern, not only for
this administration but for millions of Americans who reelected Trump
in a resounding historic win.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
But literally, if you don't have the driver's license with
the star on it, and you went through all the
government regamoo to prove that you're an American because you've
lived here your whole life, and now you have to
prove it. And then there's this guy that just jumps
on some flight from Chicago to Germany. How did that
happen in the first place?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Well, it is Chicago. Can't help but point that out.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
What does that have to do?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Well, Chicago's the epicenter of you know, look the other way,
and when it comes to people or who are here
in our country illegally quite literally.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Well, airports are federal facilities.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I understand that, but these are still people who live
and work in Chicago, Illinois. I mean, you know, and
who knows the pervasive nature with which you know they
police when they are living amongst mayors in Chicago who
are comparing. I don't know if you caught him saying, there,
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you know, Mayor Brandon Johnson comparing a reporter asking about
an illegal immigrant to oh, well, back in the day,
my people were called slaves or not. We're not. Why
don't we call them what they are? They're undocumented, you know, immigrants,
And it's like, what, but these are you know, people
living and working in Chicago electing someone like this guy.
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So who knows how they actually police in that airport?
I mean, I understand there are federal rules, laws, regulations.
I have flown. I have the real idea. I went
through all the stuff that you're about to go through,
and it pisses me off immeasurably. So how does that happen?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
And then it especially pisses you off when you see
somebody like this just hop on a flight and start
stabbing people. Turns out he's not even here legally. I
still want to know how he got through security and
got on this airplane without a real ID if he's
not in this country lawfully.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
And I also want to know how there was a
metal fork on the plane. I mean, it's another example
of it's not the tool, it's the full.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But here we are, Hey, thanks for being with us
on this Tuesday morning. The Federal Reserve is widely expanded
to cut interest rates this week. The FED kicks off
its two day meeting in Washington, DC today with an
announcement on a possible rate cut coming tomorrow. The group
is indicated it will announce a cut following a string
of poor labor market reports coupled with news that inflation
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has slowed. The Fed's cut has a trickle down effect
on consumers, lowering mortgage, credit card, and auto loan interest rates.
So we'll see what the Fed does.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Cat Hannity and a quick blip on this yesterday in
the afternoon driving home three to six here on ninety
four to three WSC, and he was just you know,
you could feel the anger and saying this is too little,
too late. So we're looking at what quarter of a percent?
This is what we've continued to be told to expect,
you know, the too little, too late part, and the
effects of it are I guess remain to be seen.
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The concern on the Fed side is that oh, inflation,
this could trigger and make things worse. I would think
the concern for businesses would be, is it really going
to help at this point? Not all companies you know,
can or want to take on more debt, even at
a lower rate.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Well, I mean, I think it has more to do
with the consumer, right, So it would be the people
purchasing those companies' goods.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Well, that's a whole other layer to it, and whether
they have the ability to purchase, and I certainly we
know that they're addressing or you know, it's under consideration.
What this shutdown means now in week four with fifteen
billion dollars with a bee siphoned out of our economy
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because people aren't going into brick and mortar businesses or
shopping online or spending this cash or even the cash
they don't have. And I don't know about you, but
I'm already looking ahead trying to purchase some stuff for
the holidays. I mean, even if it's made in the USA,
it takes a long time to get there. And you
know there's many things I'm passing up and not able
to buy because we're all feeling the pinch.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yeah. Well, I mean I don't know what a rate
cut would do to help that.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Well, some people would borrow more. I'm not suggesting that
Dave Ramsey would not be happy about that, but there
are many people who you know, because they live paycheck
to paycheck, and now think about the ones who aren't
getting paychecks looking ahead for the holidays, and you know,
put stuff on cards. You know, we have a lot
of people in credit card debt. I mean, mind blowing
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numbers of people on credit card debt.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Well, you know, I mean this is a number of
different things beyond just the rate cut from the FED.
So you have to find a way to live within
your means. And I get it. Sometimes your means suck.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Well yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I get it. It's tough.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
But you can't blame the FED for putting stuff on
credit cards and then saying your credit card balance is
you know, they're interest rate on.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Your credit cards. Of course they're ripping you off. They
always have, don't use credit cards.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Well, of course there's a deeper, you know, economic conversation,
you know, multi faceted we could have here. There's all
kinds of layers to this. Is it too little, too late?
Are we going to see? You know, even if it
comes with the quarter of a point. Is it going
to really motivate someone to, you know, go buy the house,
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sell the house, move, have a bigger Christmas?
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I mean, may we're.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Getting into you know, we're getting into territory where the
other day I was discussing it's like we might even
start getting into the foes again.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
On mortgage rates, I mean, that's pretty good news.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Well that would be great, But you know what my
mortgage rate is, man, I'm trying to think of how
long I've held it, well, over a over a decade
at this more closer maybe to fifteen two and a
half percent, let's get there.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I don't think you've had a two and a half
percent for a decade. But the and that's an huh.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Over a decade?
Speaker 4 (18:51):
No, they weren't that low.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Okay, I don't know by own mortgage rate.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
There's no way that you got a two and a
half percent mortgage rate decade or more ago.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
But the.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know, the point is is that you get you
have to free up money in the economy for people
to spend right and a two and a half percent
interest right on a home. If you're waiting for that again,
good luck to you well, I mean that's a historically
low rate, Like.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
You're right, four would be great, but if that's the
new two and a half percent, but you know, it's
happened and it can happen again. And this is where
the President is saying, my god, please, this is you know,
well beyond time to you know, help fuel what spark
has been lit in an economy that has been decimated
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through COVID and so on and bad policy.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Well, I mean everybody can armchair quarterback the Fed, right,
but the so I'm going to remain neutral on that.
You know, I don't know, the economy needs to start
moving again. We need good paying jobs, is what we need.
And so you can, you know, argue about an interest rate,
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but what we need is for people to be able
to make more money and support themselves and not be
you know, over taxed in so many different meanings of
the word quite literally taxed and just you know, you
feel like you're under attack in this country financially trying
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to get by. And that's even middle class people. And
that's a problem and that's where the problem is.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
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