September 4, 2025 • 19 mins
I Don't Mean To Put Words In Your Mouth, But I Will Anyway
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
US headlines and the talk you need. This is Charleston's
Morning News with Kelly and Plays on ninety four to
THREEUSC Florida officials say they plan to eliminate all vaccine mandates,
including those for diseases like measles, polio, and whooping cough.
At a news conference, state Surgeon General doctor Joseph Lopato
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said parents, not the government, should design what goes into
their children's bodies. The Florida Department of Health will move
to repeal its vaccine rules, while lawmakers are expected to
consider changes to state law. The announcement also included the
launch of a Florida version of a Make America Healthy
Again Commission led by Florida First Lady Casey DeSantis.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Way to go, Team DeSantis. I mean all through COVID.
He proved many times, I said to be America's governor
what he did. Many other red states followed, including South Carolina,
which I wish we were the first ones to take
the lead and pushing back on many of these COVID lockdowns, shutdowns, mandates.
But you've got the left out here already got there's
(01:08):
a I think it was I'm not sure if it
was CBS last night, But there was a former Biden
COVID advisor saying, I wouldn't want my kids going to
Disney World in this years ahead, Florida is going to
be a hotbed of transmission.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, you would assume that that person would have decided
to vaccinate their children, and if they believe in the
vaccines so much, then what would there be to worry about?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Great point.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Of course they didn't push back like that on this panel,
of course not.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And the other thing that you never hear them discuss
is the lobbying that Big Pharma does to get these
vaccines mandated for such as for school entry. And they
spend a whole lot of money not only directly lobbying
the government, but also funding groups that support you know,
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mandatory vaccines and so on and so forth. So Big
Pharma has spent a whole lot of money to ensure
that you're forced to vaccinate your children with their product.
And of course there's a profit motive there, and that
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is left out of any kind of debate about this
whole story.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Right Well, and they're continuing to peddle. I mentioned the
former Biden COVID advisor that America is at a free
fall when it comes to public health. Americans feel like
we've been in a free fall when it comes to
public health because now there's so much distrust sown to
your point of that you laid out there, that nobody
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knows who to believe or what to believe anymore. And
that is dangerous.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I've been saying that for years, with all the misinformation,
all the lies, fake news, if you will, the danger
is not that you'll believe it. The danger is that
you won't believe anything anymore because you can't trust anything anymore.
And I think we've gotten to that point.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I mean, it's very sad that we're so divided on
what seems what I would have thought were common sense basics.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Frankly, well, common sense is pretty uncommon these days. Truth
RFK Junior is being called on to step down as
head of the Department of Health and Human Services by
more than a thousand current and former employees. On Wednesday,
the group released a letter signed by them addressed to
Kennedy and members of Congress. The accused Kennedy of taking
actions that compromise the health of the nation. Some of
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the actions the group cited included the firing of CDC
director doctor Susan Moneraz the rescinding of the FDA's emergency
use authorizations for COVID nineteen vaccines, among other things. The
Department pushed back on the letter, saying Kennedy and his
team have accomplished more than any health secretary and history
in the fight to end the chronic disease epidemic and
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make America healthy again.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Here we go, brace ourselves for testimony coming up later
today with RFK Junior.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It'll be heated.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
It'll be a bunch of abloviating from politicians, grandstanding. I
want to claim my time. You know you won't be
able to speak. I mean, the whole thing is with
pushing back against making America healthy again. We talked before
the break we are lacking common sense. It's not so
common anymore. Who doesn't want to make America healthy again.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It's wrong with you.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So Kennedy goes before a Senate committee later today, and
as you just mentioned, we talked about it earlier. You know,
I hate these Senate committees because all it is is
grand standing by these politicians. They get up there and
bloviate and act like answer my question sir yes, sir no,
and I reclaim my time, and you you know, in
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interrupt and all it is is grand standing by politicians
and nothing ever comes of it. Have you ever can
you cite one time and I'm just asking rhetorically that
anything has come of it and anything has changed for
the positive from these Senate committees hearings with these witnesses.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Now, it's just sound bites, and.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Its sound bites.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's politics pedal, Yeah, their opinion.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
To prove that it's politics. The day before he's set
to appear before this Senate committee, they released this letter
signed by you know, one hundred smarter people than he is.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, not only that this lady is refusing to leave,
she's like refusing to go.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's like, you know, they're trying to you.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Know, paint this stand that they're taking while they're pedaling
all kinds of like trauma onto people. The trauma drama
is real when it comes to the left and the idea.
They've got to continue to keep people in fear that
Orange Man is bad. The Trump derangement syndrome is real,
and one day maybe will who knows, maybe under the
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Make America Healthy Again agenda, they'll actually dub Trump derangement syndrome,
a mental illness, but they just they've got nothing.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well, the lady you're talking about refusing to go is
the CDC director that we referenced in that story, Yeah,
doctor Susan Mineras.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
She's refusing to leave, of.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Course, because they all are How can you fight? You
can't fire me? I work for the government.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
And I'm here to help.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
This is how how I don't even know how to
describe it. I mean, what would you what would a
good descriptionary word be for these people that are so?
Is it egotistical?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Is it entitled hypocritical?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I mean, you know there's for saying that you can't
fire me because I'm you know, I work for the government.
I'm I'm a protected class here.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean, I'm just imagine if this is you at
your job, right, what do you think would happen if
you just, you know, tied yourself to your chair there
in the studio and said I'm not leaving, Well, someone
will forcibly remove you or roll you right out the
back door.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Maybe, or maybe it'd be like was it a sein
phone episode? Where was it where they got fired? And
I think it was George got fired. Maybe I'm conflating
too different. Well, it makes characters. But I think it
was where George got fired and somebody said we'll just
go in on Monday and pretend like that never happened.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, or the red stapler guy in the office where
he's down in the basement and they're like, dude, you
haven't been paid and how long like you were like
go a long time ago, Milton office space.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yea space.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And so maybe that's what she's doing, just showing up
for work every day. It'll go away.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, they're inviting drama on purpose so that they can,
you know, pedal this in the headlines and I'm sure
make some camp paying cash off of it. They're hurting,
they're broke the left.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, and we see how credible these letters are signed
by all of these officials and former officials, same thing
as the letters signed by one hundred people coming out
you know on Trump that was all lies and proven
to be lies over Russiagate. And so you see how
credible these letters are that they send and a part
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of this and I keep being reminded of Nancy Pelosi's
wrap up smear where and she even had the bravado
to explain it. And say, well, what you do is
you accuse somebody of something falsely, and then you have
somebody that is supportive of you in the media report
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on that story. Now it gives you credibility and you
can go after him and say, see, it's even being
reported in the media. So you wrap up the smear
and it's all bs. And that's how I look at
like these letters signed by one hundred officials going after
RFK Junior, conveniently the day before he testifies before.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Senate Arrogance Entitlement.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
The field of candidates for New York City mayor may
be about to shrink again. The New York Times reports
the Trump administration is considering offering jobs to both Mayor
Adams and Republican nominee Curtis Sewap, thus clearing the field
for former Governor Andrew Cuomo to challenge Zorn Mom Donnie.
Mayor Adams is brushing off the report. Seawa denies that
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he'd consider any offer to drop out. Mom Donnie, the
Democratic nominee and clear front runner, is accusing the White
House of interfering in the mayoral race.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I don't mind this play actually on Trump's part, and
I think Curtis and Adams. They need to put their
egos aside and accept this offer, if it's actually the case,
because Marxist mom Donnie is a far bigger threat to
New York than say, and Andrew Cuomo, who I do
not agree with on most things.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Well, I don't know about putting your ego aside. I mean,
to be fair, Eric Adams is the mayor of New
York City and he wants to continue to be the
Mayor of New York City. And so you can say, well,
it's ego he should just step aside to not what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Come on, well, what do you think it takes. It
takes a whole lot of things to run for office
remain in office. It takes an ego as part of it. Absolutely,
you have to be able to stand before many people.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Well, then they should all put their egos aside.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Well, I mean sometimes that's.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
A think about what you said.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Some people have the ability to do that for the
good of their city, their position, whatever it may be.
It's this is well, maybe politics is a game you
have to play checkers chess. You decide which way you're
going to do it or how But at the end
of the day, you've got to look at the field
of candidates and say I don't have the chance that
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I wish I did because there are all these other people.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Well, maybe he believes he can win.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Well again, I think, in my opinion that I don't
mind this play. If this is what Trump is attempting
to do, they should at least listen and not immediately
dismiss it.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I think that that is that's not.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Totally removed from reality. Of course, even if they were
planning on accepting this offer, they would initially deny that
they're willing to do so that's the way politics works.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I can't remove from reality. This is literally a story
in the news unless we were talking about the idea
that Trump is not or I think what would be
concerning to me is where would we put Eric Adams.
I don't always agree with his politics. Curtis, on the
other hand, certainly aligns more with conservative and Republican values.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Obviously, what I'm saying is we move from reality. Is
you're saying they should just come out. They shouldn't brush
off you know that they're willing to accept this. Of course,
that's what they all do. Even if are you running
for president, you know my god. I mean, what a
stupid question that is. I don't even know why anybody
in the media still asks it of any potential candidate,
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because they're all going to say, no, no, I'm not
going to consider that. And that's what these politicians all
do when they're asked, oh, would you do this? No,
I am running for mayor of New York and I'm
concentrating on this until I'm not right. So of course
that's what their answer is going to be. Even if
they were, even if they're planning on accepting this offer,
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their initial answer is going to be no, I'm not
considering it. You know, I'm here to serve the citizens
of New York, and you know, and I'm a viable
candidate and this and that. But to just expect politicians,
and especially an incumbent, to just all of a sudden
give up his race because somebody thinks that Andrew Cuomo
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has a better chance of winning against mon Domi than
he does. I don't know. I think that's a stretch
to say that. That's totally ego driven.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So do you think that Mayor Adams has a better
chance than Andrew Cuomo?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I don't know. I'm not a New Yorker, and I
don't think like a New Yorker, and I'm not that
involved in New York politics. But they all have their
internal polling, and I don't know. Maybe Eric Adams will
come out tomorrow or today and say, well, I accept
the offer, but maybe he thinks he has a chance
to win. And I'm not some Eric Adams fan. I'm
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you know, I think he's a liberal, and I think
he's you know, at best liberal light. I think even
Womo come on right. Well, so none of them. I'd
like to see Curtis sewa, but he seems I heard
somebody describe Curtisioo this way. I wish he would be
more serious. I like the guy. He has bona fida's,
He's put in his time. He and I don't know
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why I always have a brain block on the name
of his group where he essentially formed it. When you know,
when New York crime was out of control, this is
before even Giuliani came in and cleaned it up. You know,
he formed his own group. That's why he wears the
you know that red hat. And they went around patrolling
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the city, trying to help the citizens and trying to
keep it safe, he's put in the time. He's a
community he's a true community organizer. He but he does
things like he said the other day that he was
going to release ferial cats to fight the rat problem.
So he's saying things like this that some people would
not consider to be the policies or the statements of
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a serious contender.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Guardian Angels, Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So he formed the Guardian Angels some decades ago. So
I like Curtis Sewap, but again I kind of agree
with I think it was on Gutfelm where they were saying,
you know what, come on, Kurt, be a serious candidate
here instead of talking about, you know, feral cats going
after the rats. Not that New York doesn't have a
rat problem, but it has a whole lot more bigger
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problems than just the rats. And mom Donnie is one
of them.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
The Marxists, that's the most important thing to be focused
on here.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, I guess. But I mean, if it's your city,
if the president came into Charleston's mayoral race and said, here,
I'm going to try to tip the scales to who
I think should be mayor, would that sit well with you?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Well?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Is it just because it's mayor or because he's made
endorsements with plenty of candidates. Is it just the fact
that it's a mayoral race?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Well, no, I'm asking would you be all right with
the president coming in? I mean you maybe you would
with under Trump? What if Biden did it? Would you
be okay with that? No? Yeah, I'll answer for you. No,
you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Well, no, don't answer for me. That actually did happened, frankly,
and it was a Biden's box. It was Biden light.
But we did have Gavin Newsom of all people getting
involved in the mayoral race in the city of Charleston,
and you were all right with that? I mean, I mean,
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if you'd have to be asking a Democrat if they
would be okay with that, I'm not asking you.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Well, I mean it happened. I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I don't really care one way or the other, be honest.
And it's nothing new for again, like I said, Trump
to come out and endorse candidates. I mean, he's not
exactly endorsing any candidates here.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It's not endorsing a candidate. It is offering them jobs
to get them out of the way, to get a
preferred candidate, give him an advantage.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Well, I mean, we can parse words on whether it's
endorsing or preference or anything else, whether it's while you're saying,
election meddling.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Basically, the report says that the Trump administration is considering
offering jobs to Mayor Adams and kurt Is Sewah to
clear the field for former Governor Andrew Cuomo. That is
not an endorsement.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well, again, we can parse words over whether it's election
meddaling or you know, clearing the field. Either way, he's
he's involved. And what are you asking me? Do I
think that that's okay?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
His involvement here?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You said you I.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
You said you don't have a problem with it, And
I said, I think you would have a problem with
it if it was a Democrat doing this, if it
was a Democratic president doing this.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
No, because we saw it in the race in the
city of Charleston by way of his his you know,
down the line and guess what the people spoke. They
made a decision and you know the quote unquote best
candidate for the people who voted one.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Well, then why wouldn't that be the case here? Why
not leave it up? There are new Yorkers, and if
they want to elect a Marxist Communist as mayor, go
for it.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well, because even the presidency and I understand your point,
but even the presiden sees that the race is crowded
here and the stakes are far higher than just New
York City, and the bigger picture is Marxism and communism,
you know, literally rooting in our largest cities across America
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like this would be just the beginning.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Well maybe, you know, sometimes you have to let bad
things happen in order for righteousness to claim victory, and
so let the chips lie where they may.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Well.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And I've heard that argument, and you know, we can
continue to debate it.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And I still I think you would have a problem
if it was.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Joe Biden trying to convince me before the time you
I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Come on, I'm just trying to, you know, get a
little honest conversation going. If it was Joe Biden that said,
I'm going to you know here, I'm going to I
want my candidate to win here, so I'm going to
go offer them jobs and clear the way because i
think the field's too crowded. You'd be pushing back on that,
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and that's just my opinion. I don't mean to I
don't mean to tell you what you would or wouldn't do,
but anyway, but you just did. But I just did,
and I still think that's the case. Thanks for listening
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THREEUSC Florida officials say they plan to eliminate all vaccine mandates,
including those for diseases like measles, polio, and whooping cough.
At a news conference, state Surgeon General doctor Joseph Lopato
(00:24):
said parents, not the government, should design what goes into
their children's bodies. The Florida Department of Health will move
to repeal its vaccine rules, while lawmakers are expected to
consider changes to state law. The announcement also included the
launch of a Florida version of a Make America Healthy
Again Commission led by Florida First Lady Casey DeSantis.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Way to go, Team DeSantis. I mean all through COVID.
He proved many times, I said to be America's governor
what he did. Many other red states followed, including South Carolina,
which I wish we were the first ones to take
the lead and pushing back on many of these COVID lockdowns, shutdowns, mandates.
But you've got the left out here already got there's
(01:08):
a I think it was I'm not sure if it
was CBS last night, But there was a former Biden
COVID advisor saying, I wouldn't want my kids going to
Disney World in this years ahead, Florida is going to
be a hotbed of transmission.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, you would assume that that person would have decided
to vaccinate their children, and if they believe in the
vaccines so much, then what would there be to worry about?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Great point.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Of course they didn't push back like that on this panel,
of course not.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And the other thing that you never hear them discuss
is the lobbying that Big Pharma does to get these
vaccines mandated for such as for school entry. And they
spend a whole lot of money not only directly lobbying
the government, but also funding groups that support you know,
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mandatory vaccines and so on and so forth. So Big
Pharma has spent a whole lot of money to ensure
that you're forced to vaccinate your children with their product.
And of course there's a profit motive there, and that
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is left out of any kind of debate about this
whole story.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Right Well, and they're continuing to peddle. I mentioned the
former Biden COVID advisor that America is at a free
fall when it comes to public health. Americans feel like
we've been in a free fall when it comes to
public health because now there's so much distrust sown to
your point of that you laid out there, that nobody
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knows who to believe or what to believe anymore. And
that is dangerous.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I've been saying that for years, with all the misinformation,
all the lies, fake news, if you will, the danger
is not that you'll believe it. The danger is that
you won't believe anything anymore because you can't trust anything anymore.
And I think we've gotten to that point.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I mean, it's very sad that we're so divided on
what seems what I would have thought were common sense basics.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Frankly, well, common sense is pretty uncommon these days. Truth
RFK Junior is being called on to step down as
head of the Department of Health and Human Services by
more than a thousand current and former employees. On Wednesday,
the group released a letter signed by them addressed to
Kennedy and members of Congress. The accused Kennedy of taking
actions that compromise the health of the nation. Some of
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the actions the group cited included the firing of CDC
director doctor Susan Moneraz the rescinding of the FDA's emergency
use authorizations for COVID nineteen vaccines, among other things. The
Department pushed back on the letter, saying Kennedy and his
team have accomplished more than any health secretary and history
in the fight to end the chronic disease epidemic and
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make America healthy again.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Here we go, brace ourselves for testimony coming up later
today with RFK Junior.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It'll be heated.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
It'll be a bunch of abloviating from politicians, grandstanding. I
want to claim my time. You know you won't be
able to speak. I mean, the whole thing is with
pushing back against making America healthy again. We talked before
the break we are lacking common sense. It's not so
common anymore. Who doesn't want to make America healthy again.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It's wrong with you.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So Kennedy goes before a Senate committee later today, and
as you just mentioned, we talked about it earlier. You know,
I hate these Senate committees because all it is is
grand standing by these politicians. They get up there and
bloviate and act like answer my question sir yes, sir no,
and I reclaim my time, and you you know, in
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interrupt and all it is is grand standing by politicians
and nothing ever comes of it. Have you ever can
you cite one time and I'm just asking rhetorically that
anything has come of it and anything has changed for
the positive from these Senate committees hearings with these witnesses.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Now, it's just sound bites, and.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Its sound bites.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's politics pedal, Yeah, their opinion.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
To prove that it's politics. The day before he's set
to appear before this Senate committee, they released this letter
signed by you know, one hundred smarter people than he is.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, not only that this lady is refusing to leave,
she's like refusing to go.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's like, you know, they're trying to you.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Know, paint this stand that they're taking while they're pedaling
all kinds of like trauma onto people. The trauma drama
is real when it comes to the left and the idea.
They've got to continue to keep people in fear that
Orange Man is bad. The Trump derangement syndrome is real,
and one day maybe will who knows, maybe under the
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Make America Healthy Again agenda, they'll actually dub Trump derangement syndrome,
a mental illness, but they just they've got nothing.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well, the lady you're talking about refusing to go is
the CDC director that we referenced in that story, Yeah,
doctor Susan Mineras.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
She's refusing to leave, of.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Course, because they all are How can you fight? You
can't fire me? I work for the government.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
And I'm here to help.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
This is how how I don't even know how to
describe it. I mean, what would you what would a
good descriptionary word be for these people that are so?
Is it egotistical?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Is it entitled hypocritical?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I mean, you know there's for saying that you can't
fire me because I'm you know, I work for the government.
I'm I'm a protected class here.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean, I'm just imagine if this is you at
your job, right, what do you think would happen if
you just, you know, tied yourself to your chair there
in the studio and said I'm not leaving, Well, someone
will forcibly remove you or roll you right out the
back door.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Maybe, or maybe it'd be like was it a sein
phone episode? Where was it where they got fired? And
I think it was George got fired. Maybe I'm conflating
too different. Well, it makes characters. But I think it
was where George got fired and somebody said we'll just
go in on Monday and pretend like that never happened.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, or the red stapler guy in the office where
he's down in the basement and they're like, dude, you
haven't been paid and how long like you were like
go a long time ago, Milton office space.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yea space.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And so maybe that's what she's doing, just showing up
for work every day. It'll go away.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, they're inviting drama on purpose so that they can,
you know, pedal this in the headlines and I'm sure
make some camp paying cash off of it. They're hurting,
they're broke the left.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, and we see how credible these letters are signed
by all of these officials and former officials, same thing
as the letters signed by one hundred people coming out
you know on Trump that was all lies and proven
to be lies over Russiagate. And so you see how
credible these letters are that they send and a part
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of this and I keep being reminded of Nancy Pelosi's
wrap up smear where and she even had the bravado
to explain it. And say, well, what you do is
you accuse somebody of something falsely, and then you have
somebody that is supportive of you in the media report
(08:47):
on that story. Now it gives you credibility and you
can go after him and say, see, it's even being
reported in the media. So you wrap up the smear
and it's all bs. And that's how I look at
like these letters signed by one hundred officials going after
RFK Junior, conveniently the day before he testifies before.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Senate Arrogance Entitlement.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
The field of candidates for New York City mayor may
be about to shrink again. The New York Times reports
the Trump administration is considering offering jobs to both Mayor
Adams and Republican nominee Curtis Sewap, thus clearing the field
for former Governor Andrew Cuomo to challenge Zorn Mom Donnie.
Mayor Adams is brushing off the report. Seawa denies that
(09:35):
he'd consider any offer to drop out. Mom Donnie, the
Democratic nominee and clear front runner, is accusing the White
House of interfering in the mayoral race.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I don't mind this play actually on Trump's part, and
I think Curtis and Adams. They need to put their
egos aside and accept this offer, if it's actually the case,
because Marxist mom Donnie is a far bigger threat to
New York than say, and Andrew Cuomo, who I do
not agree with on most things.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Well, I don't know about putting your ego aside. I mean,
to be fair, Eric Adams is the mayor of New
York City and he wants to continue to be the
Mayor of New York City. And so you can say, well,
it's ego he should just step aside to not what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Come on, well, what do you think it takes. It
takes a whole lot of things to run for office
remain in office. It takes an ego as part of it. Absolutely,
you have to be able to stand before many people.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Well, then they should all put their egos aside.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Well, I mean sometimes that's.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
A think about what you said.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Some people have the ability to do that for the
good of their city, their position, whatever it may be.
It's this is well, maybe politics is a game you
have to play checkers chess. You decide which way you're
going to do it or how But at the end
of the day, you've got to look at the field
of candidates and say I don't have the chance that
(11:01):
I wish I did because there are all these other people.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Well, maybe he believes he can win.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Well again, I think, in my opinion that I don't
mind this play. If this is what Trump is attempting
to do, they should at least listen and not immediately
dismiss it.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I think that that is that's not.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Totally removed from reality. Of course, even if they were
planning on accepting this offer, they would initially deny that
they're willing to do so that's the way politics works.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I can't remove from reality. This is literally a story
in the news unless we were talking about the idea
that Trump is not or I think what would be
concerning to me is where would we put Eric Adams.
I don't always agree with his politics. Curtis, on the
other hand, certainly aligns more with conservative and Republican values.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Obviously, what I'm saying is we move from reality. Is
you're saying they should just come out. They shouldn't brush
off you know that they're willing to accept this. Of course,
that's what they all do. Even if are you running
for president, you know my god. I mean, what a
stupid question that is. I don't even know why anybody
in the media still asks it of any potential candidate,
(12:14):
because they're all going to say, no, no, I'm not
going to consider that. And that's what these politicians all
do when they're asked, oh, would you do this? No,
I am running for mayor of New York and I'm
concentrating on this until I'm not right. So of course
that's what their answer is going to be. Even if
they were, even if they're planning on accepting this offer,
(12:35):
their initial answer is going to be no, I'm not
considering it. You know, I'm here to serve the citizens
of New York, and you know, and I'm a viable
candidate and this and that. But to just expect politicians,
and especially an incumbent, to just all of a sudden
give up his race because somebody thinks that Andrew Cuomo
(12:58):
has a better chance of winning against mon Domi than
he does. I don't know. I think that's a stretch
to say that. That's totally ego driven.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So do you think that Mayor Adams has a better
chance than Andrew Cuomo?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I don't know. I'm not a New Yorker, and I
don't think like a New Yorker, and I'm not that
involved in New York politics. But they all have their
internal polling, and I don't know. Maybe Eric Adams will
come out tomorrow or today and say, well, I accept
the offer, but maybe he thinks he has a chance
to win. And I'm not some Eric Adams fan. I'm
(13:35):
you know, I think he's a liberal, and I think
he's you know, at best liberal light. I think even
Womo come on right. Well, so none of them. I'd
like to see Curtis sewa, but he seems I heard
somebody describe Curtisioo this way. I wish he would be
more serious. I like the guy. He has bona fida's,
He's put in his time. He and I don't know
(13:59):
why I always have a brain block on the name
of his group where he essentially formed it. When you know,
when New York crime was out of control, this is
before even Giuliani came in and cleaned it up. You know,
he formed his own group. That's why he wears the
you know that red hat. And they went around patrolling
(14:19):
the city, trying to help the citizens and trying to
keep it safe, he's put in the time. He's a
community he's a true community organizer. He but he does
things like he said the other day that he was
going to release ferial cats to fight the rat problem.
So he's saying things like this that some people would
not consider to be the policies or the statements of
(14:43):
a serious contender.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Guardian Angels, Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So he formed the Guardian Angels some decades ago. So
I like Curtis Sewap, but again I kind of agree
with I think it was on Gutfelm where they were saying,
you know what, come on, Kurt, be a serious candidate
here instead of talking about, you know, feral cats going
after the rats. Not that New York doesn't have a
rat problem, but it has a whole lot more bigger
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problems than just the rats. And mom Donnie is one
of them.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
The Marxists, that's the most important thing to be focused
on here.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, I guess. But I mean, if it's your city,
if the president came into Charleston's mayoral race and said, here,
I'm going to try to tip the scales to who
I think should be mayor, would that sit well with you?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Well?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Is it just because it's mayor or because he's made
endorsements with plenty of candidates. Is it just the fact
that it's a mayoral race?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Well, no, I'm asking would you be all right with
the president coming in? I mean you maybe you would
with under Trump? What if Biden did it? Would you
be okay with that? No? Yeah, I'll answer for you. No,
you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Well, no, don't answer for me. That actually did happened, frankly,
and it was a Biden's box. It was Biden light.
But we did have Gavin Newsom of all people getting
involved in the mayoral race in the city of Charleston,
and you were all right with that? I mean, I mean,
(16:17):
if you'd have to be asking a Democrat if they
would be okay with that, I'm not asking you.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Well, I mean it happened. I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I don't really care one way or the other, be honest.
And it's nothing new for again, like I said, Trump
to come out and endorse candidates. I mean, he's not
exactly endorsing any candidates here.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It's not endorsing a candidate. It is offering them jobs
to get them out of the way, to get a
preferred candidate, give him an advantage.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Well, I mean, we can parse words on whether it's
endorsing or preference or anything else, whether it's while you're saying,
election meddling.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Basically, the report says that the Trump administration is considering
offering jobs to Mayor Adams and kurt Is Sewah to
clear the field for former Governor Andrew Cuomo. That is
not an endorsement.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well, again, we can parse words over whether it's election
meddaling or you know, clearing the field. Either way, he's
he's involved. And what are you asking me? Do I
think that that's okay?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
His involvement here?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You said you I.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
You said you don't have a problem with it, And
I said, I think you would have a problem with
it if it was a Democrat doing this, if it
was a Democratic president doing this.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
No, because we saw it in the race in the
city of Charleston by way of his his you know,
down the line and guess what the people spoke. They
made a decision and you know the quote unquote best
candidate for the people who voted one.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Well, then why wouldn't that be the case here? Why
not leave it up? There are new Yorkers, and if
they want to elect a Marxist Communist as mayor, go
for it.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well, because even the presidency and I understand your point,
but even the presiden sees that the race is crowded
here and the stakes are far higher than just New
York City, and the bigger picture is Marxism and communism,
you know, literally rooting in our largest cities across America
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like this would be just the beginning.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Well maybe, you know, sometimes you have to let bad
things happen in order for righteousness to claim victory, and
so let the chips lie where they may.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Well.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And I've heard that argument, and you know, we can
continue to debate it.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And I still I think you would have a problem
if it was.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Joe Biden trying to convince me before the time you
I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Come on, I'm just trying to, you know, get a
little honest conversation going. If it was Joe Biden that said,
I'm going to you know here, I'm going to I
want my candidate to win here, so I'm going to
go offer them jobs and clear the way because i
think the field's too crowded. You'd be pushing back on that,
(19:08):
and that's just my opinion. I don't mean to I
don't mean to tell you what you would or wouldn't do,
but anyway, but you just did. But I just did,
and I still think that's the case. Thanks for listening
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