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September 9, 2025 • 17 mins
Is It Acceptable For ICE To Racially Profile?
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You're listening to Charleston's Morning News on ninety four to
three WSC. Now back to Kelly and Blaze.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Supreme Court is lifting restrictions on immigration patrols in
the Los Angeles area. Yesterday, the High Court blocked a
federal judge's ruling that prevented ICE officers from stopping people
based on their race or ethnicity, or if they speak Spanish.
The Court's decision was in response to an emergency request
filed by the Trump administration, and it puts on hold

(00:33):
the ruling from the Biden appointed judge. In the majority opinion,
Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote, the Judiciary does not set immigration
policy or decide enforcement priorities.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
So I don't know how ICE is trained, but I
would imagine this is part of their training. Certainly if
someone works for ICE and wants to talk to us
off air about it.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
We talked about this earlier.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I mean, if it's saying the quiet part out loud
because it needs to be said to protect ICE in
mid ways to do their job, I'm not sure where
this should be made some big issue.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, when you say the quiet part out loud, I
think you're talking about profiling, right, So you're talking about
profiling people based on their race, ethnicity, or the language
they speak.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Well language they speak, And if you're at Immigrations and
custom Enforcement, I would think that would be part of
the job if you're not speaking English or you know,
I don't know, that's to me. There are people And
we even had a caller who said, I have an accent,
I'm from a different country. I'm here legally as an

(01:40):
American citizen, and I would be okay if I stop me.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Roberto.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah, and Roberto is a good guy and from Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
But I have to disagree. This doesn't sit right with me.
And I'll take a bunch of heat for this. And
you know, and I don't mean to get sidetracked here,
but I'm kind of sick of how divided we've become,
because every time somebody disagrees, like you come under attack.
Some woman the other day told me I was arrogant,
and I'm like, how, so point out how I was

(02:08):
being so arrogant and wrong, and she's like, right there,
And I'm like, by pointing out asking you how I'm arrogant,
I'm being arrogant, you know. So everybody wants you don't
have to be one hundred percent in agreement all the time.
I'm still on your side, but on this issue, I
kind of disagree because I think you would feel that

(02:29):
you were unfairly targeted if they pulled you over simply.
And Roberto brought up, you know, gang tats and all
this other stuff. I get that, go after the people
with the gang tats and all that, but based on
the color of your skin, or ethnicity or the language
you speak, if that's if that's their probable cause. I
have a problem with that. And you know why, because

(02:50):
I grew up around cities. In the city I grew
up and didn't have a huge crime problem, but it
was right next to Detroit, which had a huge, hot
crime problem. And in both those cities, the police and
stop you, ask you where you're going, they profile you.
And as even as a white dude, if I wandered
into a black neighborhood, they'll pull you over. What are

(03:10):
you doing here? What's your business here? In all of
this and it just doesn't I was always taught as
a kid, you know what they do in Russia. They
pull you over and ask you for your papers. And
I can't shake that feeling that it's unfair to simply
profile people based on their race or ethnicity or the
language they speak, and they have done nothing else wrong, Well.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
We don't know if they've done nothing else wrong in Well.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
We do because this is what the whole thing is about.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Well, ICE again, immigrations and customs enforcement, you have to
think about We need to put it in context with
today's times. And I agree with you. We're divided on
things that we shouldn't be in a lot of ways.
But it also we have to provide context. Look at
the sanctuary cities California. Just before the break, we're talking
with our national correspond in DC. Not just about DC,

(04:02):
but obviously Chicago, the third largest city in America.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
In Illinois, sanctuary cities all over.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Eveston's mayor, look at how they have demonized ICE. They're docks.
There are all of these. They cannot get their job done.
I mean, Everston's mayor. Over the weekend, I caught him
talking about going to ICE raid locations to share rights
with people in his sanctuary city who deserve to be protected.

(04:31):
He's saying that ICE is going to be terrorizing his constituents.
That he's asked, is local law enforcement not to not
to help ICE in any way, shape or form turn
off their video license cameras. I mean, I think that
this is a tool. It sounds to me as if
it's a tool to help strengthen ICE in a time

(04:53):
when they need it, when they're being demonized throughout cities
in our country.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, I look at that as two different issues.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Could be and but it's all happening well.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
And I agree with the court that it's not up
to them to set immigration policy or decide enforcement priorities.
I agree with that part of the decision. And this
is not a final decision, by the way, This is
just putting this previous decision by a lower court judge
on hold. But it still doesn't sit well with me
being profiled for the color of your skin, or your

(05:26):
ethnicity or the language you speak. And I know you've
just named all of these problems, but you know what,
there's plenty. I look at it this way. Let's see
if I can come up with an analogy. Going five
miles over the speed limit and you get pulled over
and given a ticket, and you're like, you don't have
anything better to do than give me a ticket for
going five miles over there's people running red lice, there's

(05:48):
people swerving all over, there's drunk dry there's all this
going on, and you're out here targeting me for going
five miles over the speed limit. And the color of
your skin or your ethnicity or the language you speak
isn't even going five miles over the speed line. It's
doing nothing except existing. So I would feel that I

(06:09):
was unfairly targeted if I was stopped for one of
those three reasons I just listed. Because there's so many
other things you can go after. Go after the states
that created these sanctuary cities and are not cooperating with
ICE because they're acting illegally. Go after the gang tatted
up ones, go after the criminals, go after people that

(06:29):
are breaking the laws. Start there, and then now your
senses are tweaked because this guy's or girls committing a crime.
And now they're speaking in a different language and they're
doing all this, so hey, where are you from? But
just simply stopping them on the basis of speaking a
different language or the color of their skin or their ethnicity,

(06:51):
I think is wrong. So we might have to disagree
about this, but that's my position.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Fair there, he was weighing in as others were about,
you know, should ice be able to stop people just
because of the color of their skin and the you know,
the language that they are speaking. So it's a it's
been an interesting way. He said he saw both sides.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, he said he saw both sides. We heard from Omar.
Omar called and said, you know, he agrees. He said,
you know, there's plenty of good, honorable, law abiding citizens
that speak two different languages and so forth. He said
his dad was I think, he said harmony vat but anyway,
a military vet and had an accent. He said it

(07:34):
would piss him off if that happened.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
So I'm sure. But was dad here legally obviously you
served in the military. That's the answer is yes, so dad,
it would piss my dad off too, although he didn't
speak well accent.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
In this country, you're innocent until proven guilty. And if
they're pulling you over, you know, if they're profiling you
simply because of the color of your skin, or because
of the lay would you speak, or your ethnicity, then
that is not innocent until proven guilty. That's guilty until
proven innocent.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
So we got this talk back.

Speaker 6 (08:10):
Good morning, Blaze and Kelly this is Joe from Somerville Blaze.
I totally disagree with you on this. Okay, do you
realize I'm eighty years old, I am still working, and
I'm having taxes taken out of my pay to pay
for these people that are here illegally. The other day
I was at Bjays and some Spanish people were had

(08:32):
a trait. I mean thankful, four and ten dollars worth
of food and everything was paid.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Forward food stamps talk back feature on the iHeart app
round with a microphone.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
We mentioned, Well, so.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Then let's go after all the Spanish people, Joe, Let's
go after anybody with a Spanish accent. Let's go anybody
with after a dark tinted skin. Because you saw some
people at BJ's purchasing some stuff with snap cards and
that look like they probably weren't here illegally. So let's
just again make everybody guilty until proven innocent.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Well, this is I mean, we keep focusing on Spanish speaking.
I mean, there's a look at the Ice raid that
happened in neighboring Georgia. They were South Korean. I mean
I don't think the language exactly. I mean I feel
like we're focusing.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Just solely on that.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I'm not talking about going after people that are here illegally.
I'm not talking about going after people that have committed
crime and then checking further in to see if they're
here illegally. I'm not talking about even profiling people with
gang tattoos. If you're all tatted up with a bunch

(09:38):
of gang messages, sure profile those people. But I'm talking
about specific to this case, and it's very specific to
the case. What it says. It says ethnicity, the language
you speak, and your race. So if you're cool in

(10:00):
the United States of America with just pulling people over
because there are certain race or ethnicity, or they speak
a different language than English, and that's the sole reason,
that's their probable cause for stopping you and asking you
if you're here legally. But you I disagree wholehearted.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
You need to qualify who they are.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
They in this Supreme Court case is ice immigration and customers.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
What forcement it's part of their job to I just
it's part of their job. Well, it's part of the
everyday cops job on the beat to prevent criminals. So
why not just stop everybody? Right, We'll just stop everybody.
They'll put into crime real fast. Every damn person driving

(10:49):
down the road will just stop them. We'll question them,
we'll see what they're up to. And if you got
nothing to.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Worry about, then you got and you'll be on your
way and you got nothing to worry about. Well, unfortunately,
council culture is not dead. The Pierce County, Washington sheriff
is being investigated by the Washington State Criminal Justice Training
Commission for comments he made on social media. Sheriff Keith
Swank posted on x quote do you think it's time

(11:17):
to ban trans people from owning guns? That's all he said.
The question has been raised since the Minneapolis church shooting
or the suspect identified as transgender. Swank posted in response,
this is what the left does to shut people up.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
He's one hundred percent right.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
He is one hundred percent right. And think about this.
All he did was ask a question. He didn't even.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Say, didn't make a statement.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
He didn't say it's time to ban trans people from
owning guns. And you know what, even if he would
have said that, that's perfectly within his free speech rights
to say that, and if you don't like it, vote
him out in the next election for sheriff. But he
didn't even say that. He posed a question, do you
think it's time demand trans people from owning guns? And

(12:03):
the leftists have a huge problem with that, and now
they're investigating him ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well, Washington State, consider the source. I hope that he
wins the SmackDown on this one. I mean, they brought it,
but he, to me, has a case here. It's called,
you know, free speech literally codified.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
In the United States Constitution.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Well, and again, you know, they're weaponizing the bureaucracy because
as sheriff as far as I know, in every county
in the United States of America. I could be wrong,
but you're elected sheriff, and so the people that don't
like it are going to find a way to supersede

(12:44):
what the voters decided and get rid of them anyway
by sicking the Washington State Criminal Justice Training Commission on
them or whatever it might be there anywhere else through
the country.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
To supersede our constitution are found documents and oh, by
the way, every sheriff is elected to uphold our constitution.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, so, I mean, this is a free speech issue.
And like I said, he it wasn't even as egregious
as saying that they should ban trends from owning guns.
He's simply posing the question, but either way is within
his right. And if you don't like it, then vote
him out of the next election. And if you lose,
if you're come up on the wrong side of the election,

(13:27):
boo hoo hoo. That's the way it works in the
United States. And stop sicking these the swamp on people,
the bureaucracy. You do not want blood to pool in
your rectum. Glad you're with us this morning. Good Wednesday,
morning to you. A new study suggests using a cell
phone in the bathroom increases the risk of developing hemorrhoids.

(13:48):
Researchers found that about thirty seven percent of smartphone users
spend over five minutes on the toilet, compared with only
seven percent of non smartphone users and regular smartphone use
on the toilet, it was associated with a forty six
percent greater risk of having hemorrhoids. Hemorrhoids are often associated
with prolonged sitting. However, the risk is higher when sitting

(14:11):
for too long on a toilet is pressure from the
seat can cause blood to pool in the rectum. So
I know it's an uncomfortable subject, but it's important to
know for your health, right, because I don't know anybody
that's like you. Oh, crew, I can deal with some hemorrhoids,
so you should know that your behavior may be causing hemorrhoids.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Well, it's also it's such a sitting it's also straining.
So this is almost like a debate about distraction versus digestion.
I mean, I know a lot of people walking around
here with a high protein diet, very little carbs. We
know carbs get things moving, of course, so too to vegetables.
But is it a distracted thing? Is it a digestion thing?

(14:53):
Meaning we're distracted by ourselves, so we're not getting into business.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
It's literally a sitting thing. It has nothing to.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Do with you.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Rates are also by straining and sitting.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
In all of the things. It's not just sitting.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Well, I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I mean
I certainly understand the process. But I mean I think
it's this is a distracted thing.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
So regular smartphone, you sound the toilet was associated with
a forty six percent greater risk of having hemorrhoids. Says
nothing about digestion, says nothing about your diet, says nothing
about and yes, it's because it does cost strain, and
think about it. I don't want to get into too
much detail here, thinks. Think what happens to your buttocks

(15:37):
when you're sitting on an open toilet seat. It puts
a kind of separates and puts certain pressure on a
certain area that we already just discussed, and it gives
you hemorrhoids.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Well, so are you someone who goes into and is
This is also another discussion on in the work versus
the private bathroom. So people are probably doing things differently
at work versus what they do in their private bathroom.
I don't know how to discuss this without getting super
personal about bathroom habits.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
I mean, do you normally bring your cell phone into
the bathroom?

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I do, okay at home versus at work, because I mean,
this is a question.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
It's different for guys, I think because.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I try not to use the bathroom at work.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Ever.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Well, I mean to number.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
One, I gotcha, Okay, Well, I'm asking because stalls are involved, right,
You guys at least usually have one stall with when
you know, with the walls for this purpose.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Oh no, everything's out.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
I know that it's hunger games sometimes and you guys,
I'm just choking. Well, so it's a work conversation versus
a home conversation.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Well, any which way, and we're talking about no matter
two business.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
No matter where you're doing it. If you're doing it
with your cell phone and you're sitting there for longer
we're reading through some story or finishing an email, or
having a con whatever you're doing, playing a game, whatever
you're doing. If you're just not taking care of business
and getting up right away, then it's putting an extra
strain on your hinie and giving you an increased chance

(17:12):
of getting hemorrhoids.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
So not only behind the wheel, can you be distructed
by your cell phone, but also in the loo?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yes, in South Carolina's working on a new law. Felt
hands off in the toilet. I'm just joking. Of course
they're not, but I wouldn't put it past them.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
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