July 16, 2025 • 17 mins
Jefferey Epstein Didn't Kill Himself, And Stevie Wonder Is Not Blind
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yes, traffic and weather every ten minutes. This is Charleston's
Morning News with Kelly and Place on ninety four to
three WSC.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
The latest with the Epstein saga that is not going away.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Speaker Mike Johnson says Attorney General Pam Bondi needs to
explain her statements regarding Jeffrey Epstein. His comment comes in
response to the Justice Department announcing it would not make
any more disclosures in the case. Johnson's remarks express a
difference in rhetoric that breaks away from President Trump, who
has defended Bondi. He emphasized his trust in the President,
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but also noted that he supports transparency and said we
should put everything out there and let the people decide it.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm glad that he said that in the end, because
the beginning of his statements, which were I don't understand
the fascination of this. He's been dead a long time.
I was like, oh no, come on, mister president. Certainly
people surrounding you who have explained the ire that the
base has with regards to all of the propping up
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of this is, you know, the building up this is.
We're gonna get information. There's a Lisz there's white binders.
I mean, how does he not understand that? So the
first part of his statement yesterday is very frustrating. I'm
glad he ended it with if there's something out there,
if there's a there there, we'll put it out.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, let me play Devil's advocate for a moment, So say,
in President Trump's one of these people Jeffrey Epstein surrounded
himself with the rich and famous. Trump's not the only one.
You know, Clinton was on his plane. How many times
there's pictures of him with other presidents with you know,
as I said, the rich and famous. So if you
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just put everything out there and let the people decide,
don't you risk putting the reputation of people that don't
deserve to have their reputation tarnished?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
In danger?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah? Well, well, and I understand that because if you
have one hundred people on a list and five of
them are pedophiles, in the other ninety five and people's
eyes will be guilty by association.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
So I understand, right, So I understand too, So I
kind of understand the president's point, and you know, but
the problem is is that you know, he he drummed up,
he ginned up, all this. You know, hey, we're going
to get them and we're going to get to the
bottom of this and everything. And then that was my point.
It turns out that there the bottom of this is
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nothing getting to the bottom of this. There's nothing at
the bottom of this, and and so it blew up
in his face, and maybe he should have laid off
the rhetoric to begin with.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, well, and you know what, human beings make mistakes.
I mean, why not at least come out and say
that yesterday Pam BONDI really missed the opportunity to say, listen,
I realized that, you know, we all wanted to see
something here, but instead it was definitely a defensive posture.
Didn't want to talk about it. Certainly she knew getting
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in front of the press yesterday it was all going
to be about Epstein. You know, I don't quite get
how she handled that yesterday, and I didn't think that
was a good look for her. But you know, Trump
attempted to point this out with his initial truth post. Now,
this true social post landed over the weekend, so maybe
a lot of people didn't see it, but he basically
said these files were gathered by people from the Obama
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Biden administration, and it leads to, you know, some intimations, expectations,
at least the way things have gone in the past,
that very you know, maybe dirty details hidden, potentially destroyed,
or maybe conveniently disappeared. So you have to think about
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how many corrupt clouds are likely still embedded in these
three letter agencies. You know, look at what we've been
through this previous administration. As I mentioned the whole cloth
made up to Steel dossier in attempts to impeach Trump.
You know, they could be providing the same cover still around,
protecting these sick politicians who care more about power than people.
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And I know Trump's weighing all of that.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Or maybe there's no proof there, you know, And that's
the thing. Uh, And maybe it's not only Trump and
Bondie's fault, but also the media's fault and all of them.
And this is the kind of circus that we live
in today. And let's go watch the Lions eat somebody
in the coliseum. Geez.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I mean we're getting closer blades, we are.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Hey, Kellium Blaze. Concerning the Bondi and Bongino crisis, I
think Bongino's kind of been a little entitled baby kind
of crying about not getting his way and then throwing
attempt a chance, you're me threatening to leave. It's kind
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of childish and it shouldn't happen.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Hey, Hollywood, thanks for the talkback tap there around radio
Mike phone on the iHeartRadio apps about thirty seconds. It's
on demand, So if you know a can't hold on
the line at seven to two one talk, you can
certainly drop your thoughts here this morning. Is it just
Dampongino being childish about this?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I don't know if he's being childish about it. So
he and Cash Btewl, going back weeks, possibly even months,
tried to kind of set the stage that there was
nothing here, not what people expected, and then he had
Pam Bondi doing the opposite out there, gen and up
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all this. So it's on my desk and we're reviewing
thousands of hours of videotape and intimating that there was
a whole lot there that turned out not to be
there according to her. Now, so Bongino's like, what the
hell are you doing? And so I understand his frustration.
He's out there trying to tamp down the expectations and
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they're trying to ramp them up, and then he's like,
you know what, but I you know, if this is
what the this is going to be, then maybe I
don't want a part of it. And we can only
guess or speculate, you know, what happened there and what
the conversation was when he didn't come to work. But
I think that was just to show like, hey man,
I'm not playing your stupid game.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well, there was reports last week. I talked about it
on Monday where he was in the White House behind
closed doors with Susie Wiles, who's, of course, you know,
the assistant to the President, and he's screaming and there's
shouting matches, and you got to wonder that, you know,
they didn't say, hey man wants to take Friday.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Off, Like why don't you take I don't know, again.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Its chill out because he was back at work earlier
this week. People said with the while behind closed doors
and a lot of meetings, he was there. He was
behind the desk with a I was reported a good
attitude and I'm using air quotes my fingers here, but
I think a lot of only hearsay though, Well sure,
but I think a lot of people are feeling the
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frustration that Bongino is feeling. And you know, to your point,
where does Pam Bondi take responsibility in this? Yesterday at
that press conference, if you missed it, I feel like
there was a whole lot of responsibility. It was more
like affuscating, you know, responsibility. She was just kind of
trying to refocus the entire Epstein questioning from the press
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to you know, making America safe. She must have said
it fifteen times.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Well, when you know what, when she's on the hot
seat and they're asking her about all of these things,
what is she supposed to say? So in a way,
and I'm not excusing her, I think that they did,
you know, create at least part of this problem that
they're facing now. But at the same time, she's a
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prosecutor and she now heads up the Department of Justice.
Just what exactly is she supposed to say other than
we have all of this evidence and we're looking at it,
and then what the media does with that? This is
my point. The media was complicit in this, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Sure, But she doubled down on her mimo that was
put out last week that created all of this, which
was there's no there there She doubled down on that yesterday.
She said, my statement, my mimo, you know it speaks
for itself, meaning case clothes kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Well, what just because you wish her to do something
different and you wish there was evidence there and all
these things, like I said, Dan Bungino Cash, BUTTEL have
been saying this for a long time relatively that there
isn't anything there.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
They've been trying to let you might want it.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
To be there, but like, what do you want them
to do start making up evidence or just still you know,
hyping something that's never going to come to fruition.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, I honestly wish that we didn't talk anymore about
this to this at least ad nauseum, because there's so
many of the things that the Justice Department is working on,
whether it was the twenty twenty elections or what really
happened with COVID or what you know, the amount of
people who are thrown in jail during January sixth and
what actually happened there. There are so many other things
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if you want to talk about a corruption in the
deep state and the swamp that is DC that I
would like answers to. Are we going to talk about
any of those things at nauseum the way we are
in the same fervor. I don't know, well, hopefully in
some of your calls in comments as we weigh in.
It's interesting the layers to the Epstein drama. John's been
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waiting on the line a while.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Go ahead, John, People got to remember something. The Democrats
were still in control after the election in November up
until January twentieth, So anything could have happened with that evidence.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah. I think it's been intimated by the President himself
and that true Social post over the weekend, he tried
to say, Hey, you know, we've had twodministrations, Democrat administrations
who've come after me. Do you honestly think that if
they had some evidence or information that it wouldn't have
come out.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well regarding him, you know that that was regarding Trump himself.
If they would have had that information, then it would
have come by anything to hurt Republicans head of an election.
But yes, yeah, but that was specifically to him, and
he also was saying, look, look, these are the same
people that created the Steele dossier and all these other things,
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and you know they were in charge of this Epstein
file and so can we trust this information, is what
he was saying. But you know, to John's point, yeah,
they had time to wipe the file. But again, I mean,
this is such a big deal over a guy that
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died years ago, and justice is not going to be
served in this case. It's just not. And if you're
hoping the same thing that, if you think there's going
to be purp walks for all of the shenanigans that
the Biden administration got away with, the lying and the
law breaking and everything else, you're going to be sorely disappointed,
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just like you are with this case. And that's just
the sad reality of it. And you know, I don't
know if there was a client list or not, but
I know that it no longer exists. Glaine Julaine, however
you want to say Gilaine, however you want to say
her name.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I've heard Gislaine and Gislaine.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Now they're saying it's a Glaine or whatever, however you
want to pronounce her name. She says that there was
no client list.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Oh, she wants to go before Congress. She's pushing her
case up to the Supreme Court of the United States. Y'all,
this isn't going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
She's trying to get out of jail, and again she
wants to go before Congress her that whole case is
they're trying to put it's on appeal to the Supreme Court.
They're saying the government acted in bad faith when they
tried her to begin with, because they had to deal
with Jeffrey Epstein going back to two thousand and seven.
I think it was where they weren't going to arrest
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co conspirators. So that's what that's all about. It's not
that she has any new information to share with Congress
or anything like that. And that's all teas and bs
in the media puffing this thing up, only for you
to be disappointed again in the future when it doesn't
materialize ahead JD.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
We've had the CIA actively be involved and try to
throw an election. We've had the FBI actually be involved
in trying to throw election. We've had the FBI openly
attack a president. Oh openly again. Do you honestly think
Pam Body and Dan Bongino haven't been contacted and told
if you don't shut up about this stuff, we're going
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to start hurting your family. You honestly think our government
doing that?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I don't have evidence of that, but I wouldn't be surprised.
I mean, this is why we you know, the deep
state is something that many people won't exposed.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I mean, I don't know President Trump. You know, there
was two assassination attempts on him. Iran threatened assassination. So
if you're on a world stage and you're not afraid
of Iran and you're not you know, but you're afraid
of Jeffrey Epstein's you know. No, it sounds like to
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way too much of a conspiracy theory to me. And
I get why people are all off on this thing,
but it's getting very tiring. We'll never know the truth,
just like we don't know the truth about a whole
bunch of other stuff. Let's move along. Let's solve some
problems that we can solve. Let's expose some things that
we can expose, and not keep beating this dead horse,
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this dead pat file.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Thirty fifty years later, like the JFK files released, maybe
then we'll get some answers.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Well even that, I mean, you know how much came
to light in these files that were released over JFK
or RFK or Martin Luther King or any of it.
So they've lied to us for a long time. They're
probably still lying to us. But let's expose what we
can expose now instead of living in the past. I
just got off the line with George was saying that,
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you know, when it comes to Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi,
this whole Jeffrey Epstein case, what they probably should say is,
you know what they got rid of all of the
evidence before this case was handed over to us, and
there is no evidence there. And sorry, but there's nothing
to prosecute because the deep state hit everything already.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, that's what I was saying earlier.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
And there it goes. So that's what George just had
to say. So Stevie Wonder really blind. Motown legend Stevie
Wonder says he really is blind, despite claims that have
begun circulating online, according to reports from Entertainment Weekly. The
musician addressed the speculation during a performance on his Love
Light and Song Mini tour through Europe. He took a
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moment to tell the crowd, you know, there have been
rumors about me seeing and all of that, and you
know the truth. The truth is, shortly after my birth,
I became blind. The singer songwriter continued on to note
that his blindness has allowed him to quote see the
world in the vision of truth of sight, see people
in the spirit of them, not how they look or
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what color they are.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I'll tell you what Stevie Wonder is he do you
know he has nine children with five women blinds, blind
or not. That love has been spread around.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Well, so this is not a recent development like they
would have you believe. For years now, there's been rumors
Stevie Wonder could see. This goes to stories from everybody
from Eddie Murphy to Lionel Ritchie who says, you know
about a car ride that he was about to take
with Stevie Wonder and shack.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Snoop Dogg a car ride like Stevie's driving.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Come on, he said, he wanted to play Stevie. Stevie
wanted to play him. Lionel Richie a demo tape. He said,
get in the car. Here, I'm going to get in
the driver's seat. You get in a passenger seat, he says.
Stevie Wonder reaches back behind the seat, puts the car
into gear and starts backing down the driveway. And he said, gotcha.
But anyway, that's hilarious. Yeah, and then there's different versions
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of that story that people have told. So there's been
this rumor going around forever that Stevie Wonder really wasn't blind,
Like why would he make it up? I don't you know. Anyway,
again with the conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
He was born premature and it led to his blindness.
He developed some kind of retinopathy and it's where your
eyes don't grow basically, and it led to his blindness.
Have you ever seen a picture of him without his
glasses on?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yes? Yeah, So Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself and Stevie
Wonder's not blind.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
The latest with the Epstein saga that is not going away.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Speaker Mike Johnson says Attorney General Pam Bondi needs to
explain her statements regarding Jeffrey Epstein. His comment comes in
response to the Justice Department announcing it would not make
any more disclosures in the case. Johnson's remarks express a
difference in rhetoric that breaks away from President Trump, who
has defended Bondi. He emphasized his trust in the President,
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but also noted that he supports transparency and said we
should put everything out there and let the people decide it.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm glad that he said that in the end, because
the beginning of his statements, which were I don't understand
the fascination of this. He's been dead a long time.
I was like, oh no, come on, mister president. Certainly
people surrounding you who have explained the ire that the
base has with regards to all of the propping up
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of this is, you know, the building up this is.
We're gonna get information. There's a Lisz there's white binders.
I mean, how does he not understand that? So the
first part of his statement yesterday is very frustrating. I'm
glad he ended it with if there's something out there,
if there's a there there, we'll put it out.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, let me play Devil's advocate for a moment, So say,
in President Trump's one of these people Jeffrey Epstein surrounded
himself with the rich and famous. Trump's not the only one.
You know, Clinton was on his plane. How many times
there's pictures of him with other presidents with you know,
as I said, the rich and famous. So if you
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just put everything out there and let the people decide,
don't you risk putting the reputation of people that don't
deserve to have their reputation tarnished?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
In danger?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah? Well, well, and I understand that because if you
have one hundred people on a list and five of
them are pedophiles, in the other ninety five and people's
eyes will be guilty by association.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
So I understand, right, So I understand too, So I
kind of understand the president's point, and you know, but
the problem is is that you know, he he drummed up,
he ginned up, all this. You know, hey, we're going
to get them and we're going to get to the
bottom of this and everything. And then that was my point.
It turns out that there the bottom of this is
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nothing getting to the bottom of this. There's nothing at
the bottom of this, and and so it blew up
in his face, and maybe he should have laid off
the rhetoric to begin with.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, well, and you know what, human beings make mistakes.
I mean, why not at least come out and say
that yesterday Pam BONDI really missed the opportunity to say, listen,
I realized that, you know, we all wanted to see
something here, but instead it was definitely a defensive posture.
Didn't want to talk about it. Certainly she knew getting
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in front of the press yesterday it was all going
to be about Epstein. You know, I don't quite get
how she handled that yesterday, and I didn't think that
was a good look for her. But you know, Trump
attempted to point this out with his initial truth post. Now,
this true social post landed over the weekend, so maybe
a lot of people didn't see it, but he basically
said these files were gathered by people from the Obama
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Biden administration, and it leads to, you know, some intimations, expectations,
at least the way things have gone in the past,
that very you know, maybe dirty details hidden, potentially destroyed,
or maybe conveniently disappeared. So you have to think about
(03:45):
how many corrupt clouds are likely still embedded in these
three letter agencies. You know, look at what we've been
through this previous administration. As I mentioned the whole cloth
made up to Steel dossier in attempts to impeach Trump.
You know, they could be providing the same cover still around,
protecting these sick politicians who care more about power than people.
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And I know Trump's weighing all of that.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Or maybe there's no proof there, you know, And that's
the thing. Uh, And maybe it's not only Trump and
Bondie's fault, but also the media's fault and all of them.
And this is the kind of circus that we live
in today. And let's go watch the Lions eat somebody
in the coliseum. Geez.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I mean we're getting closer blades, we are.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Hey, Kellium Blaze. Concerning the Bondi and Bongino crisis, I
think Bongino's kind of been a little entitled baby kind
of crying about not getting his way and then throwing
attempt a chance, you're me threatening to leave. It's kind
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of childish and it shouldn't happen.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Hey, Hollywood, thanks for the talkback tap there around radio
Mike phone on the iHeartRadio apps about thirty seconds. It's
on demand, So if you know a can't hold on
the line at seven to two one talk, you can
certainly drop your thoughts here this morning. Is it just
Dampongino being childish about this?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I don't know if he's being childish about it. So
he and Cash Btewl, going back weeks, possibly even months,
tried to kind of set the stage that there was
nothing here, not what people expected, and then he had
Pam Bondi doing the opposite out there, gen and up
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all this. So it's on my desk and we're reviewing
thousands of hours of videotape and intimating that there was
a whole lot there that turned out not to be
there according to her. Now, so Bongino's like, what the
hell are you doing? And so I understand his frustration.
He's out there trying to tamp down the expectations and
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they're trying to ramp them up, and then he's like,
you know what, but I you know, if this is
what the this is going to be, then maybe I
don't want a part of it. And we can only
guess or speculate, you know, what happened there and what
the conversation was when he didn't come to work. But
I think that was just to show like, hey man,
I'm not playing your stupid game.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well, there was reports last week. I talked about it
on Monday where he was in the White House behind
closed doors with Susie Wiles, who's, of course, you know,
the assistant to the President, and he's screaming and there's
shouting matches, and you got to wonder that, you know,
they didn't say, hey man wants to take Friday.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Off, Like why don't you take I don't know, again.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Its chill out because he was back at work earlier
this week. People said with the while behind closed doors
and a lot of meetings, he was there. He was
behind the desk with a I was reported a good
attitude and I'm using air quotes my fingers here, but
I think a lot of only hearsay though, Well sure,
but I think a lot of people are feeling the
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frustration that Bongino is feeling. And you know, to your point,
where does Pam Bondi take responsibility in this? Yesterday at
that press conference, if you missed it, I feel like
there was a whole lot of responsibility. It was more
like affuscating, you know, responsibility. She was just kind of
trying to refocus the entire Epstein questioning from the press
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to you know, making America safe. She must have said
it fifteen times.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Well, when you know what, when she's on the hot
seat and they're asking her about all of these things,
what is she supposed to say? So in a way,
and I'm not excusing her, I think that they did,
you know, create at least part of this problem that
they're facing now. But at the same time, she's a
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prosecutor and she now heads up the Department of Justice.
Just what exactly is she supposed to say other than
we have all of this evidence and we're looking at it,
and then what the media does with that? This is
my point. The media was complicit in this, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Sure, But she doubled down on her mimo that was
put out last week that created all of this, which
was there's no there there She doubled down on that yesterday.
She said, my statement, my mimo, you know it speaks
for itself, meaning case clothes kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Well, what just because you wish her to do something
different and you wish there was evidence there and all
these things, like I said, Dan Bungino Cash, BUTTEL have
been saying this for a long time relatively that there
isn't anything there.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
They've been trying to let you might want it.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
To be there, but like, what do you want them
to do start making up evidence or just still you know,
hyping something that's never going to come to fruition.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, I honestly wish that we didn't talk anymore about
this to this at least ad nauseum, because there's so
many of the things that the Justice Department is working on,
whether it was the twenty twenty elections or what really
happened with COVID or what you know, the amount of
people who are thrown in jail during January sixth and
what actually happened there. There are so many other things
(09:15):
if you want to talk about a corruption in the
deep state and the swamp that is DC that I
would like answers to. Are we going to talk about
any of those things at nauseum the way we are
in the same fervor. I don't know, well, hopefully in
some of your calls in comments as we weigh in.
It's interesting the layers to the Epstein drama. John's been
(09:38):
waiting on the line a while.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Go ahead, John, People got to remember something. The Democrats
were still in control after the election in November up
until January twentieth, So anything could have happened with that evidence.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah. I think it's been intimated by the President himself
and that true Social post over the weekend, he tried
to say, Hey, you know, we've had twodministrations, Democrat administrations
who've come after me. Do you honestly think that if
they had some evidence or information that it wouldn't have
come out.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well regarding him, you know that that was regarding Trump himself.
If they would have had that information, then it would
have come by anything to hurt Republicans head of an election.
But yes, yeah, but that was specifically to him, and
he also was saying, look, look, these are the same
people that created the Steele dossier and all these other things,
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and you know they were in charge of this Epstein
file and so can we trust this information, is what
he was saying. But you know, to John's point, yeah,
they had time to wipe the file. But again, I mean,
this is such a big deal over a guy that
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died years ago, and justice is not going to be
served in this case. It's just not. And if you're
hoping the same thing that, if you think there's going
to be purp walks for all of the shenanigans that
the Biden administration got away with, the lying and the
law breaking and everything else, you're going to be sorely disappointed,
(11:17):
just like you are with this case. And that's just
the sad reality of it. And you know, I don't
know if there was a client list or not, but
I know that it no longer exists. Glaine Julaine, however
you want to say Gilaine, however you want to say
her name.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I've heard Gislaine and Gislaine.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Now they're saying it's a Glaine or whatever, however you
want to pronounce her name. She says that there was
no client list.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Oh, she wants to go before Congress. She's pushing her
case up to the Supreme Court of the United States. Y'all,
this isn't going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
She's trying to get out of jail, and again she
wants to go before Congress her that whole case is
they're trying to put it's on appeal to the Supreme Court.
They're saying the government acted in bad faith when they
tried her to begin with, because they had to deal
with Jeffrey Epstein going back to two thousand and seven.
I think it was where they weren't going to arrest
(12:18):
co conspirators. So that's what that's all about. It's not
that she has any new information to share with Congress
or anything like that. And that's all teas and bs
in the media puffing this thing up, only for you
to be disappointed again in the future when it doesn't
materialize ahead JD.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
We've had the CIA actively be involved and try to
throw an election. We've had the FBI actually be involved
in trying to throw election. We've had the FBI openly
attack a president. Oh openly again. Do you honestly think
Pam Body and Dan Bongino haven't been contacted and told
if you don't shut up about this stuff, we're going
(12:57):
to start hurting your family. You honestly think our government
doing that?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I don't have evidence of that, but I wouldn't be surprised.
I mean, this is why we you know, the deep
state is something that many people won't exposed.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I mean, I don't know President Trump. You know, there
was two assassination attempts on him. Iran threatened assassination. So
if you're on a world stage and you're not afraid
of Iran and you're not you know, but you're afraid
of Jeffrey Epstein's you know. No, it sounds like to
(13:36):
way too much of a conspiracy theory to me. And
I get why people are all off on this thing,
but it's getting very tiring. We'll never know the truth,
just like we don't know the truth about a whole
bunch of other stuff. Let's move along. Let's solve some
problems that we can solve. Let's expose some things that
we can expose, and not keep beating this dead horse,
(13:59):
this dead pat file.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Thirty fifty years later, like the JFK files released, maybe
then we'll get some answers.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Well even that, I mean, you know how much came
to light in these files that were released over JFK
or RFK or Martin Luther King or any of it.
So they've lied to us for a long time. They're
probably still lying to us. But let's expose what we
can expose now instead of living in the past. I
just got off the line with George was saying that,
(14:30):
you know, when it comes to Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi,
this whole Jeffrey Epstein case, what they probably should say is,
you know what they got rid of all of the
evidence before this case was handed over to us, and
there is no evidence there. And sorry, but there's nothing
to prosecute because the deep state hit everything already.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, that's what I was saying earlier.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
And there it goes. So that's what George just had
to say. So Stevie Wonder really blind. Motown legend Stevie
Wonder says he really is blind, despite claims that have
begun circulating online, according to reports from Entertainment Weekly. The
musician addressed the speculation during a performance on his Love
Light and Song Mini tour through Europe. He took a
(15:17):
moment to tell the crowd, you know, there have been
rumors about me seeing and all of that, and you
know the truth. The truth is, shortly after my birth,
I became blind. The singer songwriter continued on to note
that his blindness has allowed him to quote see the
world in the vision of truth of sight, see people
in the spirit of them, not how they look or
(15:39):
what color they are.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I'll tell you what Stevie Wonder is he do you
know he has nine children with five women blinds, blind
or not. That love has been spread around.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Well, so this is not a recent development like they
would have you believe. For years now, there's been rumors
Stevie Wonder could see. This goes to stories from everybody
from Eddie Murphy to Lionel Ritchie who says, you know
about a car ride that he was about to take
with Stevie Wonder and shack.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Snoop Dogg a car ride like Stevie's driving.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Come on, he said, he wanted to play Stevie. Stevie
wanted to play him. Lionel Richie a demo tape. He said,
get in the car. Here, I'm going to get in
the driver's seat. You get in a passenger seat, he says.
Stevie Wonder reaches back behind the seat, puts the car
into gear and starts backing down the driveway. And he said, gotcha.
But anyway, that's hilarious. Yeah, and then there's different versions
(16:44):
of that story that people have told. So there's been
this rumor going around forever that Stevie Wonder really wasn't blind,
Like why would he make it up? I don't you know. Anyway,
again with the conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
He was born premature and it led to his blindness.
He developed some kind of retinopathy and it's where your
eyes don't grow basically, and it led to his blindness.
Have you ever seen a picture of him without his
glasses on?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yes? Yeah, So Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself and Stevie
Wonder's not blind.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
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