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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Charleston's Morning News on ninety four to THREEBUSC.
Now back to Kelly and Blaze.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good Friday morning. Gee. I hope you're doing well this morning.
So there's a music festival happening tomorrow in Summerville to
benefit the American Cancer Society. All proceeds benefit the Cancer Society.
JP and the Moonshine Boys are playing the Yacht Club
out on a limb Circus Arts and Wretched Excess. If
you remember, Wretched Access was a huge band in Charleston
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back in you know, late eighties, early nineties, and David
Dunning and Chris Cooper from Wretched accessor in the studio
with me this morning. Good morning, guys, Good morning, Good morning.
Hey man. I'm so glad to see you and you know,
getting ready for this. I went back and you can
hear it in the background. This is Wretched playing in
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the background. And I forgot how awesome you guys were.
To tell you the truth, Yeah, I had a lot
of energy back then. Now I just kidding. We all did.
Oh yeah, yeah boy. But h but this is great
because you're playing this event tomorrow at Brown Family Park
in nexton and it's to benefit the Cancer Society. And Chris,
(01:14):
I guess I'll start with you because you're kind of
the organizer of this, right, didn't you put this together? Yeah?
I did.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Every year I work for some of a police department.
Every year we have an ambassador step forward and uh
organize some way to raise funds, And so I decided
to do it this year, and UH thought, well, how
can I make raise some funds for this cause? And
then I thought about the band, and Uh, I know
that some guys in the band have also been personally
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affected by breast cancer. So I thought, you know, hey,
let me see if the guys would be interested in
getting back together and see if we could raise some money.
And they and everybody was receptive and eager to step in,
and so yeah, so you have tomorrow night's the night.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well that's awesome, And you guys haven't played what and
you did kind of a reunion show? What about fifteen
years ago?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I think, well, we did a couple of things back
in six We did the Music Farm that's about nineteen
years ago, and then we did the thing with Eddie Hogan,
which was probably about that about.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Fifteen years ago. Yeah, we wereund there, so yes, yeah,
it's been a bit.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's been a bit, but I'm sure you're itching to
get up there and rock the crowd. We were talking
off air one of the stories. It's funny because this
makes me laugh. It probably doesn't make you guys laugh.
But we did Battle of the Bands. This is I
think nineteen ninety maybe wow at brittle Bank Park and
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you guys were awesome and all your fans were out
there and I wasn't a judge. I had nothing to
do with it. I was just, you know, I did
sure he did. He paid for it. I did pay
for it because I had to go out there and
announce the winner. And the winner was not you, and
the crowd thought it should have been you. And I
came off that stage silk and wet with beer. Man.
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I mean I just got pelted relentlessly with beer after
announcing the win.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
The nineties.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, sorry man, Oh no, it's your life. I find
it hilarious. Now, you guys probably didn't find it hilarious
at all, because I think everybody thought you deserve to win.
But I mean, you know what what a low country institution,
you know, wretched success was. Like I said in the
late eighties and in the early nineties there, and you've
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got guys have gone on to play in other bands, David,
you know, Live Bay playing Jane, Dave Dunning, Ban Chris Chump,
and and you might have some other projects going on
that I don't even know about. It's been a little
while since we've talked.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah. No, well, right now this is our main or
my main concentration is getting this show highness and successful.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Yes, raised some good money for a good cause.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, And so five o'clock tomorrow, I think is that's
the because I saw something that said, well, the first
pan starts at four forty five, but then I saw
something else that said that the event starts at five,
so probably get there. I don't know, four thirty or so.
I think the doors are at four.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yes, Yeah, we're gonna start collecting donations at four o'clock.
JP and the Moonshine Boys will probably start probably tendall
five or quarter to five because they wanted to get
a good forty five minutes in, so they're gonna start
a little bit early. And then after that'll be the
Yacht Club and then the circus arts folks and Wretch
at Excess.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I mean I'm looking forward to it. I'll be out there.
You kindly asked me to announce you on stage, so
as long as they don't get pelted with beer.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Well, we do have Low Country Taps is going to
show up some beer and wine, so it could be
wine this year now, No, hopefully there won't be anything
like that.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, and then you've got some food trucks out there too,
don't you.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, We've got Jack of all trades barbecue is going
to be out there. We've got Brown's Boiled peanuts, do
c dough, mini donuts, Tiki shaved ice in, sou LA's
Korean Fusion, along with the Low Country Taps folks.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And then how much does it cost to get in?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
It is twenty five dollars donation to the American Cancer
Society and all.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Of that, all of the proceeds go to the American
Cancer Society.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Right, Yes, of all the proceeds go there. I've been
wanting to say this so hopefully can get it out
this morning. What we'll do is we'll have folks set
up to help Folks scan the QR code to my
donation page or my fun page and they can make
their donation that way. With Venmo or a debit card.
But I will say this for anyone that's coming, I
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don't know how overwhelmed that system might get with folks
coming in back to back. So we would be taking
cash as well, and that would probably be the quickest
way to get through the gate is with twenty five
dollars cash.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And of course if you want to donate and more,
you're welcome to do so.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Right, listen, we'll take everything you're given.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yes, absolutely, and well this will be all the original
members of Wretched Access, right, so yes, So you've got
Robert Wagon, Brunner and Outlaw also joining you, right.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
That's right. And O'Quinn, Kevin O'Quinn, who's also Kevin O'Quinn.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
How could I forget Kevin O'Quinn.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
He's also in the Yacht Club. Yes, yeah, so he's
uh yeah, yeah. I haven't run into Kevin in a while.
I mean normally, you know, David, you and I talk
once in a while. And by the way, your former
your former diesel brother, Donnie Donnie Polk said to say
hello to you. I was talking to him yesterday. Oh nice.
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I talked to him every once in a while. Yeah, man.
So it's always great when old friends get together and
enjoy music and enjoy a good time, and especially when
it helps out a great cause like the American Cancer Society.
So tomorrow doors open it for Brown Family Park. That said,
three thousand Front Street and next in all proceeds benefit
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the American Cancer Society. JP and the Moonshine Boys, the
Odd Club, Out on a Limb, Circus Hearts, and these
guys Wretched Excess, David Dunning, Chris Cooper, Kevin O'Quinn, Robert
Wagon Brunner and Outlaw all hit in the stage for
the first time in probably fifteen years. Oh boy, wow, yeah,
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I mean, can you believe how much time has gone
by when you look back, Like when I was saying,
I think it was back in ninety in the story,
I told I'm like, that was almost a half a century.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I know.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
I was thinking the other day. I met Kevin at
the Fair of All Places in eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It was right after Hugo.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
It was the first fair they had come back, and
that's when I met him, and he said they were
looking for a singer, and I went over there. So
that was fall of eighty nine, And this is what
twenty six So what's that thirty something to me?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Thirty five years thirty six years?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Man, just incredible. And as they say, we're only a
band for like four Yeah, I know, when you put
it in perspective, it's like, oh my gosh. Yeah, the
legacy carries on. Baby.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, hey, listen, we're all still alive, which is incredible.
And uh and strangely too, I almost still have our hair.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You would think, just statistically at least one of us
would be bald by now, but now it's just all there.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
You know, Shorter, I was gonna say, you just don't
have as much as you did back in the day,
right right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
And Robert was the only one that couldn't have long
hair back then, so now he's the only one that does.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, always the rebel, the Robert Wagon Brunner.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Well, I'm looking forward to it tomorrow at uh In
nexton at Brown Family Park. It's going to be an
event and you need to be there and come cheer
on Wretched Excess and in the other bands too. Yeah,
Club I don't know, Limb Circus Arts, JP and the
Moonshine Boys. Looking forward to it, guys, and thanks for
taking the time to come in this morning, and thanks
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for taking the time in your efforts to raise money
for the American Cancer Society.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Oh you got it. Thank you for having us, Yes, sir,
thanks buddy.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know, on the way in this morning, I heard
this wild story. It was Suzanne Summer's husband explaining how
they have cloned Suzanne Summers, she passed away a few
years ago. And he said, you know, he learned about
this with Suzanne when she was still alive, and she
was hip to this, and you know, they entered all
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of the information about the books that she's authored, her
interviews and so on and so forth, and they created
an artificial intelligence twin of Suzanne Summers. And he said,
it's incredible. He said, you know, for the first few
minutes I was interacting with it, he said, you know,
it kind of creeped me out a bit. But he said,
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after a couple of minutes, I kind of forgot that
I was talking to a robot and I thought I
was talking to Suzanne. I just I found that totally wild.
And that brings us to our next guest, Kevin Sirilli.
He's founder of MTF don TV's Meet the Future, and
he's also a host of Hello Future, the podcast on iHeartMedia,
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and he's here to discuss how AI is going to
shape our future. Good morning, Kevin.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
It's really me. It's not a digital twin, but that
Sudan Summer stories is crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, isn't it though? And I mean, I guess you
know you could you could create an AI twin to
fill a void for a dead relative, But in this case,
I think it has more to do with you can
keep that money making machine going right.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Well, I think that's one thinking. It also from the
perspective of being able to have a clone of you
that could do multiple functions at work, or to be
able to have multiple jobs. You know, the if you're
a teenager, you could have one one of your digital
twins doing one job and another doing another, and you know,
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and you can think of just the possibilities. I was
speaking to one technologist in Washington, d C. This week
who is telling me about how it's almost like a
video game, and a video game you have different characters
that perform different functions. Ultimately, you want artificial intelligence to
be able to do that. And I talk about this
on my show on iHeart called Hello Future. And you
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want you know, maybe an AI agent to do your scheduling,
another agent to do your financing, another to perform functions
of your job, but all within the same AI platforms.
So we really are only at the start of the
beginning of the next industrial revolution, and these types of
things are really going to be starting to heat up.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Now. You could also worry about it cloning your bad
characteristics too, couldn't you. Theoretically Yeah, I mean I'm more of.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
An optimist, but you're absolutely correct, especially you know, when
you start talking about robots. And one of the themes
that we explored this week is the New York Times
article that is said that they got their hands on
some leak Amazon documents that said that they're going to
have six hundred thousand jobs replaced by robots in the
next couple of years, which is just I think something
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that we're only also at the beginning stages of. I
interviewed the former head of artificial intelligence for NASA's Jet
Propulson Laboratory on the show, and he was saying, we
were talking about how there's one financial institution that is
predicting there will be one billion robots on the planet
within the next twenty five to fifty years.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I mean, that's just stunning. And in that New York
Times report they mentioned cobots. What are cobots.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Yeah, so cobots are are devices that humans are going
to work alongside of, which is kind of you know
how we are now if you consider a computer the
first form of a cobot. But I also take a
much more optimistic view on all of this because think
back to the First Industrial Revolution, the word calculator. Calculators
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were actually human beings who perform And this isn't in
the First Industrial Revolution for those fact checking me. This
was in the last several decades. But calculators were human
beings who actually performed the function of math. They were mathematicians,
but they were replaced with the device, and we call
that device calculators. And so that opened up for a
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new profession for programmers, for humans to then start programming
the calculators. Now, artificial intelligence is doing a lot of
automated programming that will create a new function for humans
and whatnot. So throughout history, we've always seen how humans
work evolve, and we're just starting to figure that out now.
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And I think it's going to be in this period
of transition for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
We also covered on one of your episodes the use
by students of AI, using the generative AI to do
their homework, to help them with their school work, to
work on projects, and that presents a challenge to teachers
and some call it cheating, some call it evolving. You know,
how should we look at the use of AI by
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students while they're learning, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Think the students are teaching the teachers in many ways
how to use artificial intelligence. I'm someone who believes that
trying to tell kids not to use AI is truthfully
like trying to tell a kid not to use a
calculator in math class. And I really do believe that.
I think that, you know, the transfer of knowledge, how
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human beings retain and receive knowledge is dramatically changing. We
are no longer going to have to read six hundred
or seven hundred page books in order to understand a topic.
Technolog he can give us that seven hundred page information
in the blink of an eye, and that will only
continue to become more relevant. I think that what I'm
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a huge advocate for, based on the reporting that I do,
is to have students learn about the world and the
future and the world and how technology is going to
shape it, not just through artificial intelligence, but also through
something called quantum computing. And I think that when they
learn that that they're much better off than having a
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teacher tell them, you know, try to put the genie
back in the bottle, because AI is already here. The
kids have already figured it out.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, I agree with you, But ironically enough, when I
was in school, they would not let us use calculators.
If they found you with a calculator, they would take
it away from you. If they found that you used it,
they would fail you on that paper because they wanted
you to learn the math skills and not rely, in
their terms, not mine on a machine to do it. Well,
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what do you think about that calculator?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
I got my calculator taken away because I was playing
snowd On, which is a game on my TI eighty
three plus. Because the kids at my school, this must
be the difference between years of my school, we had
figured out how to program games on our calculators by that.
So yeah, I mean, of course, hardly am I arguing
that students shouldn't be learning that two plus two equals
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four and with all the disinformation on the Internet. There
are people who believe that two plus two equals seven.
So I totally totally to hear the very astute point
that you're making and agree with that. I guess I
would just say, once you learn the fundamentals, you know,
and the fundamentals are so important in any subject. Once
you learn the fundamentals, I do think that leveraging artificial
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intelligence is something that we should be teaching kids out
of use because they failed the government. I live in Washington,
d C. The policymakers on both sides of the aisle
have failed to protect kids from social media, which is
more addictive in many cases than drugs. I mean, we
don't need to be a rocket scientist to just look
walk down the street when the kids are going on
the school bus and they're all looking at their phones.
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I mean, we're addicted to this, the phones. So I
think that we're going to have to really hopefully correct
the mistakes that Washington failed when it comes to this
next phase of artificial intelligence and quantum computing that they
didn't do with the Internet.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Absolutely, and before you go, I know you have to
go here, but I just wanted to make one more
point because I am this debate with people all the
time because they're like, I'm afraid of AI and it's
going to take over and it can be used for
evil deeds, and I'm like, you know, it's a tool,
and any tool can be used for evil deeds. Take
a firearm, for instance. It can help to feed you,
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it can help to defend you, but it can also
be used for an evil deed. Same thing goes for
a hammer, same thing goes for AI. Right.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
I think that's so well said. And again I look
at this as an optimist. I don't want to live
in a world without the Internet that ultimately, you know
what GPS did for all of us. I don't want
to live in a world where I can't go on
my phone and figure out where to go instantaneously. I
don't want to, you know. I enjoy rideshare apps and
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being able to go different places, being able to get
banking on my phone. These are all because of the Internet.
And so I totally agree with you, and I think
it's just mitigating the risk, like in anything, and making
sure that young people and all Americans are protected by
this technology so that we can do what Americans always
do best, which is innovation and creating new opportunities for
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the future.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Absolutely. Kevin Sieri. He's founder of MTF do on TV's
Meet the Future, and he hosts Hello Future, the podcast
on iHeartMedia. You can find that on the iHeartMedia app. Kevin,
thanks for your time this morning. Good to talk to you,
Thank you, sir. So coming up Sunday at the North
Charleston Performing Arts Center, It's the gen X Takeover Comedy Tour.
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And with me in the studio is John Wellington. You
probably know him, is the Dad Bod veteran the dBV.
Good morning, John, Morning Mike. How are you. I'm doing
good man, how are you? Man?
Speaker 7 (19:08):
This is awesome to be here. I really appreciate you
guys having us in here.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, well, I appreciate you taking the time to come
and talk to us this morning. So tell us how
this this tour came together. H This is a complete accident.
This whole tour is something that we never actually planned
to do. We've got myself, the real Slim Sherry, Kelly Mono,
and Nick Harrison are.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Part of the tour. We all started out as social
media content creators and you know, one day Sherry reached
out to me. We had been dming, we never actually
met in person, and she said, hey, do you want
to go to Nashville and do some creator stuff? You know,
meet people and you know, make videos and stuff like that.
That's what we do on social media. And I said, yeah, sure,
let's let's make it happen. And then our wives got
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involved and they decided that they did not want to
pay for the trip, so they called a local comedy
club and they said, hey, can we do stand up
comm show there?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Now?
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Mind you, three of the four of us have never
done stand up in our life at this point, and
they they got the gig and they told us, you
guys are going to do stand up and we ended
up selling out two shows at a very small comedy
club at that point, and we had a rock star
show and it was the first time I had ever
done stand up, and you know, I thought I was
going to throw up all over myself when I did it.
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But after that we said, hey, let's try this again,
and we went to Cleveland and we sold out a
show there. Then we said, okay, I guess we have
a tour now, and you know, Atlanta, New Orleans, Las Vegas.
We just got back from a sold out in Seattle.
We've got almost twenty plus shows sold out for twenty
twenty five or twenty twenty six, excuse me, and it's
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just rocking on. And of course I've got to come
to my hometown and do a show here for the
family here. So that's why we're back here and going
to be at the pack this Sunday.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
That's right. And you're from the Charles scenario from the
low Country, that's right. I am.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
I am a raised up summer graduated from Stratford.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Well excellent, And you know how many aspiring comedians you
just made jealous because you're like, I never did stand
up before. I never did any stand up before, but
I try my hand at it now. I'm just joking.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
Yeah, Well it's cool like that, and especially in you know,
my late forties now, doing something completely new is really
cool to be in a new industry and be exposed
to new things. And I understand there's a lot of
people that scream and claw to try to get their
way to this point, but you know, keep working hard
at it and most likely you're going to be here
at some point.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Well, now, tell me what the difference is for you. Anyway.
And I know you know the process can be different
for different people. But what was it like. Did you
have to go and practice in all of this or
did you find that it came to you naturally, or
did you go and say, all right, now that I
have to go on stage and I've never done stand
up before. Man, I got to put together an act,
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I got to practice my delivery, I've got to practice
my timing. Or did you just kind of say I'm
going to go on stage and wing it.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
No.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
The first time that I did it, I have put
together a set and I didn't really practice very much.
And I can tell you that I have not done
that set ever since. After the Nashville event, which was
our first event, I learned very fast that I needed
to put some effort into this, kind of like practicing
for football. You know, you practice, practice, practice, then it's
game day and then you just do what you do
practice at But luckily I have a great coach, missus
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Dad bod Veteran Julie Walker, my better half. Every time
before we have a show, we go through the set
and I have a little carry machine in the living
room and we do the timing and we rehearse and
she tells me take this out or add this in,
or do this, do that, or you forgot this, And
you know, we get into this just like a football,
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this practice and repetition game, and then when we go
up on stage it's a little bit easier.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I got stage.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
Anxiety, like you wouldn't believe, believe it or not, and
that makes it a little bit more difficult for me.
So having that practice time really helps, you know, alleviate
that and make this a little bit easier.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I know that it's uncomfortable, certainly to have that stage anxiety,
but do you think that maybe in a way it
helps you a little bit because I think I can't
remember who it was, Johnny Carson or somebody said, man,
if you're not nervous before you go on stage, something's
wrong with you.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
I've definitely heard that before as well, that the nerves
are a natural part of this, and I do believe
that it helps because you want a little bit of
perfection out of yourself. You want to make sure that
you land the jokes the way that you had planned.
And once you get past that first big laugh, I
mean that's when that's when it really changes, you know,
what I mean, it's kind of like scoring your first touchdown.
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Do you feel the crowd, You feel the energy of
the moment, and you really get a little bit more
control over the situation, and then maybe you start to
add stuff in here or there that you didn't plan
on adding. And it's really about that response from the crowd,
because this is a this is an interactive game, right.
A comedian is no good without the crowd out, And
if he can get to the point where he really
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manages that and controls that, it's going to be a
wonderful experience for everybody.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah. Well, like you said, you get that first laugh
and you're like, they're with me. Yeah, that's right, that's
exactly right. So tell me what it's like to be
on the road with all of these comedians. I mean,
does it ever get out of control every time? Every time?
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Because every city is different, every city's got its different
nuances about how we get there and where we're staying
and all this stuff. The energy between the four of us,
I would say, is the equivalent of four rabid squirrels
being shooken up in a cage, because all four of
us have a very creative mindset and we are all
wanting to do creative things, and that usually doesn't produce
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very many results. Right, it's a lot of great ideas.
So we have a great tour manager, Reuben Buck, who
we brought on in Atlanta, and he has really changed
the game for us as far as steering us in
the right direction and leading us in the right ways. Luckily,
you know, we're all in our forties or above Sherris
in our fifties, and we have a little bit more
mature of a way of managing this than we probably
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would have done in our twenties or thirties, So that
helps out a lot. But still, you know, when you
get four creators in a room and you try to
make something actually happen without some sort of leadership guiding you,
it doesn't end well.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So, yeah, I've if you hear your one hundred percent,
So tell us So just about out of time here,
but tell us what we can expect at the show
on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
Yeah, So you can expect a lot of laughs, a
lot of genics related content from all four of us
in different perspectives of it. You can expect a lot
of new things that you probably haven't heard from us
in social Media World, and we do have a surprise
that we cannot talk about, but it's very Charleston specific
that we're going to have as part of this show
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at the Pack at five pm on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And tickets are still available. You know, you can search
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Speaker 2 (26:00):
Okay? Gen xtakeover dot Com and the show Sunday at
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four great comedians, the real Slim Sherry, Nick Harrison, the Professor,
Kelly Mano, and this gentleman right here, dBV John Wellington,
the dadbod veteran John. Pleasure to meet you, and thanks
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for coming in this morning and break a leg on Sunday.
All right, buddy, thank you, sir. I appreciate it. All right,
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Speaker 1 (26:42):
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Now back to Kelly and Blaze.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good Friday morning. Gee. I hope you're doing well this morning.
So there's a music festival happening tomorrow in Summerville to
benefit the American Cancer Society. All proceeds benefit the Cancer Society.
JP and the Moonshine Boys are playing the Yacht Club
out on a limb Circus Arts and Wretched Excess. If
you remember, Wretched Access was a huge band in Charleston
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back in you know, late eighties, early nineties, and David
Dunning and Chris Cooper from Wretched accessor in the studio
with me this morning. Good morning, guys, Good morning, Good morning.
Hey man. I'm so glad to see you and you know,
getting ready for this. I went back and you can
hear it in the background. This is Wretched playing in
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the background. And I forgot how awesome you guys were.
To tell you the truth, Yeah, I had a lot
of energy back then. Now I just kidding. We all did.
Oh yeah, yeah boy. But h but this is great
because you're playing this event tomorrow at Brown Family Park
in nexton and it's to benefit the Cancer Society. And Chris,
(01:14):
I guess I'll start with you because you're kind of
the organizer of this, right, didn't you put this together? Yeah?
I did.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Every year I work for some of a police department.
Every year we have an ambassador step forward and uh
organize some way to raise funds, And so I decided
to do it this year, and UH thought, well, how
can I make raise some funds for this cause? And
then I thought about the band, and Uh, I know
that some guys in the band have also been personally
(01:42):
affected by breast cancer. So I thought, you know, hey,
let me see if the guys would be interested in
getting back together and see if we could raise some money.
And they and everybody was receptive and eager to step in,
and so yeah, so you have tomorrow night's the night.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well that's awesome, And you guys haven't played what and
you did kind of a reunion show? What about fifteen
years ago?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I think, well, we did a couple of things back
in six We did the Music Farm that's about nineteen
years ago, and then we did the thing with Eddie Hogan,
which was probably about that about.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Fifteen years ago. Yeah, we wereund there, so yes, yeah,
it's been a bit.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's been a bit, but I'm sure you're itching to
get up there and rock the crowd. We were talking
off air one of the stories. It's funny because this
makes me laugh. It probably doesn't make you guys laugh.
But we did Battle of the Bands. This is I
think nineteen ninety maybe wow at brittle Bank Park and
(02:40):
you guys were awesome and all your fans were out
there and I wasn't a judge. I had nothing to
do with it. I was just, you know, I did
sure he did. He paid for it. I did pay
for it because I had to go out there and
announce the winner. And the winner was not you, and
the crowd thought it should have been you. And I
came off that stage silk and wet with beer. Man.
(03:02):
I mean I just got pelted relentlessly with beer after
announcing the win.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
The nineties.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, sorry man, Oh no, it's your life. I find
it hilarious. Now, you guys probably didn't find it hilarious
at all, because I think everybody thought you deserve to win.
But I mean, you know what what a low country institution,
you know, wretched success was. Like I said in the
late eighties and in the early nineties there, and you've
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got guys have gone on to play in other bands, David,
you know, Live Bay playing Jane, Dave Dunning, Ban Chris Chump,
and and you might have some other projects going on
that I don't even know about. It's been a little
while since we've talked.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah. No, well, right now this is our main or
my main concentration is getting this show highness and successful.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Yes, raised some good money for a good cause.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, And so five o'clock tomorrow, I think is that's
the because I saw something that said, well, the first
pan starts at four forty five, but then I saw
something else that said that the event starts at five,
so probably get there. I don't know, four thirty or so.
I think the doors are at four.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yes, Yeah, we're gonna start collecting donations at four o'clock.
JP and the Moonshine Boys will probably start probably tendall
five or quarter to five because they wanted to get
a good forty five minutes in, so they're gonna start
a little bit early. And then after that'll be the
Yacht Club and then the circus arts folks and Wretch
at Excess.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I mean I'm looking forward to it. I'll be out there.
You kindly asked me to announce you on stage, so
as long as they don't get pelted with beer.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Well, we do have Low Country Taps is going to
show up some beer and wine, so it could be
wine this year now, No, hopefully there won't be anything
like that.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, and then you've got some food trucks out there too,
don't you.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, We've got Jack of all trades barbecue is going
to be out there. We've got Brown's Boiled peanuts, do
c dough, mini donuts, Tiki shaved ice in, sou LA's
Korean Fusion, along with the Low Country Taps folks.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And then how much does it cost to get in?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
It is twenty five dollars donation to the American Cancer
Society and all.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Of that, all of the proceeds go to the American
Cancer Society.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Right, Yes, of all the proceeds go there. I've been
wanting to say this so hopefully can get it out
this morning. What we'll do is we'll have folks set
up to help Folks scan the QR code to my
donation page or my fun page and they can make
their donation that way. With Venmo or a debit card.
But I will say this for anyone that's coming, I
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don't know how overwhelmed that system might get with folks
coming in back to back. So we would be taking
cash as well, and that would probably be the quickest
way to get through the gate is with twenty five
dollars cash.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And of course if you want to donate and more,
you're welcome to do so.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Right, listen, we'll take everything you're given.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yes, absolutely, and well this will be all the original
members of Wretched Access, right, so yes, So you've got
Robert Wagon, Brunner and Outlaw also joining you, right.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
That's right. And O'Quinn, Kevin O'Quinn, who's also Kevin O'Quinn.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
How could I forget Kevin O'Quinn.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
He's also in the Yacht Club. Yes, yeah, so he's
uh yeah, yeah. I haven't run into Kevin in a while.
I mean normally, you know, David, you and I talk
once in a while. And by the way, your former
your former diesel brother, Donnie Donnie Polk said to say
hello to you. I was talking to him yesterday. Oh nice.
(06:44):
I talked to him every once in a while. Yeah, man.
So it's always great when old friends get together and
enjoy music and enjoy a good time, and especially when
it helps out a great cause like the American Cancer Society.
So tomorrow doors open it for Brown Family Park. That said,
three thousand Front Street and next in all proceeds benefit
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the American Cancer Society. JP and the Moonshine Boys, the
Odd Club, Out on a Limb, Circus Hearts, and these
guys Wretched Excess, David Dunning, Chris Cooper, Kevin O'Quinn, Robert
Wagon Brunner and Outlaw all hit in the stage for
the first time in probably fifteen years. Oh boy, wow, yeah,
(07:25):
I mean, can you believe how much time has gone
by when you look back, Like when I was saying,
I think it was back in ninety in the story,
I told I'm like, that was almost a half a century.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I know.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
I was thinking the other day. I met Kevin at
the Fair of All Places in eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It was right after Hugo.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
It was the first fair they had come back, and
that's when I met him, and he said they were
looking for a singer, and I went over there. So
that was fall of eighty nine, And this is what
twenty six So what's that thirty something to me?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Thirty five years thirty six years?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Man, just incredible. And as they say, we're only a
band for like four Yeah, I know, when you put
it in perspective, it's like, oh my gosh. Yeah, the
legacy carries on. Baby.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, hey, listen, we're all still alive, which is incredible.
And uh and strangely too, I almost still have our hair.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You would think, just statistically at least one of us
would be bald by now, but now it's just all there.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
You know, Shorter, I was gonna say, you just don't
have as much as you did back in the day,
right right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
And Robert was the only one that couldn't have long
hair back then, so now he's the only one that does.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, always the rebel, the Robert Wagon Brunner.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Well, I'm looking forward to it tomorrow at uh In
nexton at Brown Family Park. It's going to be an
event and you need to be there and come cheer
on Wretched Excess and in the other bands too. Yeah,
Club I don't know, Limb Circus Arts, JP and the
Moonshine Boys. Looking forward to it, guys, and thanks for
taking the time to come in this morning, and thanks
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for taking the time in your efforts to raise money
for the American Cancer Society.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Oh you got it. Thank you for having us, Yes, sir,
thanks buddy.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know, on the way in this morning, I heard
this wild story. It was Suzanne Summer's husband explaining how
they have cloned Suzanne Summers, she passed away a few
years ago. And he said, you know, he learned about
this with Suzanne when she was still alive, and she
was hip to this, and you know, they entered all
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of the information about the books that she's authored, her
interviews and so on and so forth, and they created
an artificial intelligence twin of Suzanne Summers. And he said,
it's incredible. He said, you know, for the first few
minutes I was interacting with it, he said, you know,
it kind of creeped me out a bit. But he said,
(09:52):
after a couple of minutes, I kind of forgot that
I was talking to a robot and I thought I
was talking to Suzanne. I just I found that totally wild.
And that brings us to our next guest, Kevin Sirilli.
He's founder of MTF don TV's Meet the Future, and
he's also a host of Hello Future, the podcast on iHeartMedia,
(10:13):
and he's here to discuss how AI is going to
shape our future. Good morning, Kevin.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
It's really me. It's not a digital twin, but that
Sudan Summer stories is crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, isn't it though? And I mean, I guess you
know you could you could create an AI twin to
fill a void for a dead relative, But in this case,
I think it has more to do with you can
keep that money making machine going right.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Well, I think that's one thinking. It also from the
perspective of being able to have a clone of you
that could do multiple functions at work, or to be
able to have multiple jobs. You know, the if you're
a teenager, you could have one one of your digital
twins doing one job and another doing another, and you know,
(11:07):
and you can think of just the possibilities. I was
speaking to one technologist in Washington, d C. This week
who is telling me about how it's almost like a
video game, and a video game you have different characters
that perform different functions. Ultimately, you want artificial intelligence to
be able to do that. And I talk about this
on my show on iHeart called Hello Future. And you
(11:30):
want you know, maybe an AI agent to do your scheduling,
another agent to do your financing, another to perform functions
of your job, but all within the same AI platforms.
So we really are only at the start of the
beginning of the next industrial revolution, and these types of
things are really going to be starting to heat up.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Now. You could also worry about it cloning your bad
characteristics too, couldn't you. Theoretically Yeah, I mean I'm more of.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
An optimist, but you're absolutely correct, especially you know, when
you start talking about robots. And one of the themes
that we explored this week is the New York Times
article that is said that they got their hands on
some leak Amazon documents that said that they're going to
have six hundred thousand jobs replaced by robots in the
next couple of years, which is just I think something
(12:22):
that we're only also at the beginning stages of. I
interviewed the former head of artificial intelligence for NASA's Jet
Propulson Laboratory on the show, and he was saying, we
were talking about how there's one financial institution that is
predicting there will be one billion robots on the planet
within the next twenty five to fifty years.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I mean, that's just stunning. And in that New York
Times report they mentioned cobots. What are cobots.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Yeah, so cobots are are devices that humans are going
to work alongside of, which is kind of you know
how we are now if you consider a computer the
first form of a cobot. But I also take a
much more optimistic view on all of this because think
back to the First Industrial Revolution, the word calculator. Calculators
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were actually human beings who perform And this isn't in
the First Industrial Revolution for those fact checking me. This
was in the last several decades. But calculators were human
beings who actually performed the function of math. They were mathematicians,
but they were replaced with the device, and we call
that device calculators. And so that opened up for a
(13:33):
new profession for programmers, for humans to then start programming
the calculators. Now, artificial intelligence is doing a lot of
automated programming that will create a new function for humans
and whatnot. So throughout history, we've always seen how humans
work evolve, and we're just starting to figure that out now.
(13:54):
And I think it's going to be in this period
of transition for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
We also covered on one of your episodes the use
by students of AI, using the generative AI to do
their homework, to help them with their school work, to
work on projects, and that presents a challenge to teachers
and some call it cheating, some call it evolving. You know,
how should we look at the use of AI by
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students while they're learning, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Think the students are teaching the teachers in many ways
how to use artificial intelligence. I'm someone who believes that
trying to tell kids not to use AI is truthfully
like trying to tell a kid not to use a
calculator in math class. And I really do believe that.
I think that, you know, the transfer of knowledge, how
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human beings retain and receive knowledge is dramatically changing. We
are no longer going to have to read six hundred
or seven hundred page books in order to understand a topic.
Technolog he can give us that seven hundred page information
in the blink of an eye, and that will only
continue to become more relevant. I think that what I'm
(15:10):
a huge advocate for, based on the reporting that I do,
is to have students learn about the world and the
future and the world and how technology is going to
shape it, not just through artificial intelligence, but also through
something called quantum computing. And I think that when they
learn that that they're much better off than having a
(15:32):
teacher tell them, you know, try to put the genie
back in the bottle, because AI is already here. The
kids have already figured it out.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, I agree with you, But ironically enough, when I
was in school, they would not let us use calculators.
If they found you with a calculator, they would take
it away from you. If they found that you used it,
they would fail you on that paper because they wanted
you to learn the math skills and not rely, in
their terms, not mine on a machine to do it. Well,
(15:58):
what do you think about that calculator?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
I got my calculator taken away because I was playing
snowd On, which is a game on my TI eighty
three plus. Because the kids at my school, this must
be the difference between years of my school, we had
figured out how to program games on our calculators by that.
So yeah, I mean, of course, hardly am I arguing
that students shouldn't be learning that two plus two equals
(16:24):
four and with all the disinformation on the Internet. There
are people who believe that two plus two equals seven.
So I totally totally to hear the very astute point
that you're making and agree with that. I guess I
would just say, once you learn the fundamentals, you know,
and the fundamentals are so important in any subject. Once
you learn the fundamentals, I do think that leveraging artificial
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intelligence is something that we should be teaching kids out
of use because they failed the government. I live in Washington,
d C. The policymakers on both sides of the aisle
have failed to protect kids from social media, which is
more addictive in many cases than drugs. I mean, we
don't need to be a rocket scientist to just look
walk down the street when the kids are going on
the school bus and they're all looking at their phones.
(17:09):
I mean, we're addicted to this, the phones. So I
think that we're going to have to really hopefully correct
the mistakes that Washington failed when it comes to this
next phase of artificial intelligence and quantum computing that they
didn't do with the Internet.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Absolutely, and before you go, I know you have to
go here, but I just wanted to make one more
point because I am this debate with people all the
time because they're like, I'm afraid of AI and it's
going to take over and it can be used for
evil deeds, and I'm like, you know, it's a tool,
and any tool can be used for evil deeds. Take
a firearm, for instance. It can help to feed you,
(17:44):
it can help to defend you, but it can also
be used for an evil deed. Same thing goes for
a hammer, same thing goes for AI. Right.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
I think that's so well said. And again I look
at this as an optimist. I don't want to live
in a world without the Internet that ultimately, you know
what GPS did for all of us. I don't want
to live in a world where I can't go on
my phone and figure out where to go instantaneously. I
don't want to, you know. I enjoy rideshare apps and
(18:13):
being able to go different places, being able to get
banking on my phone. These are all because of the Internet.
And so I totally agree with you, and I think
it's just mitigating the risk, like in anything, and making
sure that young people and all Americans are protected by
this technology so that we can do what Americans always
do best, which is innovation and creating new opportunities for
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the future.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Absolutely. Kevin Sieri. He's founder of MTF do on TV's
Meet the Future, and he hosts Hello Future, the podcast
on iHeartMedia. You can find that on the iHeartMedia app. Kevin,
thanks for your time this morning. Good to talk to you,
Thank you, sir. So coming up Sunday at the North
Charleston Performing Arts Center, It's the gen X Takeover Comedy Tour.
(18:57):
And with me in the studio is John Wellington. You
probably know him, is the Dad Bod veteran the dBV.
Good morning, John, Morning Mike. How are you. I'm doing
good man, how are you? Man?
Speaker 7 (19:08):
This is awesome to be here. I really appreciate you
guys having us in here.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, well, I appreciate you taking the time to come
and talk to us this morning. So tell us how
this this tour came together. H This is a complete accident.
This whole tour is something that we never actually planned
to do. We've got myself, the real Slim Sherry, Kelly Mono,
and Nick Harrison are.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Part of the tour. We all started out as social
media content creators and you know, one day Sherry reached
out to me. We had been dming, we never actually
met in person, and she said, hey, do you want
to go to Nashville and do some creator stuff? You know,
meet people and you know, make videos and stuff like that.
That's what we do on social media. And I said, yeah, sure,
let's let's make it happen. And then our wives got
(19:50):
involved and they decided that they did not want to
pay for the trip, so they called a local comedy
club and they said, hey, can we do stand up
comm show there?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Now?
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Mind you, three of the four of us have never
done stand up in our life at this point, and
they they got the gig and they told us, you
guys are going to do stand up and we ended
up selling out two shows at a very small comedy
club at that point, and we had a rock star
show and it was the first time I had ever
done stand up, and you know, I thought I was
going to throw up all over myself when I did it.
(20:21):
But after that we said, hey, let's try this again,
and we went to Cleveland and we sold out a
show there. Then we said, okay, I guess we have
a tour now, and you know, Atlanta, New Orleans, Las Vegas.
We just got back from a sold out in Seattle.
We've got almost twenty plus shows sold out for twenty
twenty five or twenty twenty six, excuse me, and it's
(20:44):
just rocking on. And of course I've got to come
to my hometown and do a show here for the
family here. So that's why we're back here and going
to be at the pack this Sunday.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
That's right. And you're from the Charles scenario from the
low Country, that's right. I am.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
I am a raised up summer graduated from Stratford.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Well excellent, And you know how many aspiring comedians you
just made jealous because you're like, I never did stand
up before. I never did any stand up before, but
I try my hand at it now. I'm just joking.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
Yeah, Well it's cool like that, and especially in you know,
my late forties now, doing something completely new is really
cool to be in a new industry and be exposed
to new things. And I understand there's a lot of
people that scream and claw to try to get their
way to this point, but you know, keep working hard
at it and most likely you're going to be here
at some point.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Well, now, tell me what the difference is for you. Anyway.
And I know you know the process can be different
for different people. But what was it like. Did you
have to go and practice in all of this or
did you find that it came to you naturally, or
did you go and say, all right, now that I
have to go on stage and I've never done stand
up before. Man, I got to put together an act,
(21:55):
I got to practice my delivery, I've got to practice
my timing. Or did you just kind of say I'm
going to go on stage and wing it.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
No.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
The first time that I did it, I have put
together a set and I didn't really practice very much.
And I can tell you that I have not done
that set ever since. After the Nashville event, which was
our first event, I learned very fast that I needed
to put some effort into this, kind of like practicing
for football. You know, you practice, practice, practice, then it's
game day and then you just do what you do
practice at But luckily I have a great coach, missus
(22:26):
Dad bod Veteran Julie Walker, my better half. Every time
before we have a show, we go through the set
and I have a little carry machine in the living
room and we do the timing and we rehearse and
she tells me take this out or add this in,
or do this, do that, or you forgot this, And
you know, we get into this just like a football,
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this practice and repetition game, and then when we go
up on stage it's a little bit easier.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I got stage.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
Anxiety, like you wouldn't believe, believe it or not, and
that makes it a little bit more difficult for me.
So having that practice time really helps, you know, alleviate
that and make this a little bit easier.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I know that it's uncomfortable, certainly to have that stage anxiety,
but do you think that maybe in a way it
helps you a little bit because I think I can't
remember who it was, Johnny Carson or somebody said, man,
if you're not nervous before you go on stage, something's
wrong with you.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
I've definitely heard that before as well, that the nerves
are a natural part of this, and I do believe
that it helps because you want a little bit of
perfection out of yourself. You want to make sure that
you land the jokes the way that you had planned.
And once you get past that first big laugh, I
mean that's when that's when it really changes, you know,
what I mean, it's kind of like scoring your first touchdown.
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Do you feel the crowd, You feel the energy of
the moment, and you really get a little bit more
control over the situation, and then maybe you start to
add stuff in here or there that you didn't plan
on adding. And it's really about that response from the crowd,
because this is a this is an interactive game, right.
A comedian is no good without the crowd out, And
if he can get to the point where he really
(24:02):
manages that and controls that, it's going to be a
wonderful experience for everybody.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah. Well, like you said, you get that first laugh
and you're like, they're with me. Yeah, that's right, that's
exactly right. So tell me what it's like to be
on the road with all of these comedians. I mean,
does it ever get out of control every time? Every time?
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Because every city is different, every city's got its different
nuances about how we get there and where we're staying
and all this stuff. The energy between the four of us,
I would say, is the equivalent of four rabid squirrels
being shooken up in a cage, because all four of
us have a very creative mindset and we are all
wanting to do creative things, and that usually doesn't produce
(24:44):
very many results. Right, it's a lot of great ideas.
So we have a great tour manager, Reuben Buck, who
we brought on in Atlanta, and he has really changed
the game for us as far as steering us in
the right direction and leading us in the right ways. Luckily,
you know, we're all in our forties or above Sherris
in our fifties, and we have a little bit more
mature of a way of managing this than we probably
(25:06):
would have done in our twenties or thirties, So that
helps out a lot. But still, you know, when you
get four creators in a room and you try to
make something actually happen without some sort of leadership guiding you,
it doesn't end well.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So, yeah, I've if you hear your one hundred percent,
So tell us So just about out of time here,
but tell us what we can expect at the show
on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
Yeah, So you can expect a lot of laughs, a
lot of genics related content from all four of us
in different perspectives of it. You can expect a lot
of new things that you probably haven't heard from us
in social Media World, and we do have a surprise
that we cannot talk about, but it's very Charleston specific
that we're going to have as part of this show
(25:48):
at the Pack at five pm on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And tickets are still available. You know, you can search
online buy your tickets however you like.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
But gen xtakeover dot Com that's the easiest way to
get to it, is it?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Okay? Gen xtakeover dot Com and the show Sunday at
the North Charleston Performing Arts Center. You're going to see
four great comedians, the real Slim Sherry, Nick Harrison, the Professor,
Kelly Mano, and this gentleman right here, dBV John Wellington,
the dadbod veteran John. Pleasure to meet you, and thanks
(26:22):
for coming in this morning and break a leg on Sunday.
All right, buddy, thank you, sir. I appreciate it. All right,
you too, get your tickets now. It was gen xtakeover
dot com? Was it?
Speaker 7 (26:31):
That's correct?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
All right, do that and you'll won't be sorry. You'll
see a great show on Sunday at the North Charleston
Performing Arts Center.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Thanks for listening to the Charleston Morning News Podcast. Catch
Kelly and Blaze weekday mornings from six to nine
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