Please Stop With The Grandstanding Over Someone's Death

Please Stop With The Grandstanding Over Someone's Death

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Charleston's Morning News with Kelly and Plays.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Authorities in Utah sa a man who was arrested just
after Charlie Kirk was assassinated and claimed he fired the
shot to help the real shooting suspect escape. The Utah
County Sheriff says seventy one year old George Zin yelled
that he was the shooter to allow the actual suspect
to flee. Tyler Robinson was arrested late Thursday and has

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been charged with aggravated murder for the killing of the
conservative activist. Robinson apparently acknowledged Zen's arrest, telling his roommate
in a text message that police had grabbed some crazy
old dude. Zen is being held on charges of obstruction
of justice and possession of child sex abuse material.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Oh lord, interesting that here this man has murdered someone
and he's calling this guy a crazy old dude, which
clearly he is for aiding and attempting to help this
guy get away. Did they know each other? I mean,
there's all of questions coming out now. Or did he
just was he one amongst the crowd who were celebrating,

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which actually are caught on video and tape and been
put on blasts since last Thursday or Wednesday, I should
say we could go today.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Well, yeah, I don't know. It doesn't sound like they
knew each other. He said, some crazy old dude.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well here you've got this guy's past here, who was it?
Child materials? And he wasn't the only one that they arrested.
And I know we'll talk about cash Bettel here coming
up before Congress and asking being asked a bunch of questions.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Boy, was that was quite a show yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
My god.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
But the other one we talked about their arrest where
they actually put the guy's name out there and the
family said, my god, this is I want to say, unprecedented,
but unnecessary.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
I suppose.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah. Well, he said that the other guy was a
fan of Charlie Kirk and was there, had seen him before,
was there to see him again, and the local police
held him and then released his name for some reason.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
So what's interesting, aside from what's coming out about this
old dude as the alleged assassin. I guess we'll say,
since he's not cooperating with authorities now beneficially charged. The
reaction even from our own by the way, Senator Lindsey
Graham is out here making you know, the national rounds

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on national media saying this disturbs me, This disturbs me.
And he's got paper after paper after paper that he's
pulling out of comments online where people are saying, September two,
it's going to be interesting. And it's not just the
whole reveling in Charlie Kirk's assassination. It's beyond that. It's

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pre and it, you know, seems pre meditated, as if
this guy didn't work alone. So there's a lot of
questions to be answered and a lot of them can't
be actually because it's an ongoing investigation.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, I mean, eventually they'll be answered and hopefully the
investigators will find the answers to the questions they're seeking.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
And Cash taken out the trash.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
A Senate hearing with that, f BEHID Director Cash Pattel
went off the rails fast Yesterday. Pattel and Democrats on
the Senate Judiciary Committee shouted at one another over subjects
that included the Charlie Kirk and Jeffrey Epstein investigations. Patel
called California Senator Adam Schiff a political buffoon, with Schiff
calling Patel an internet troll. That was after Patel and

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New Jersey Senator Corey Booker accused each other of tearing
the country apart. The audio with Patel and Schiff is
just exquisite.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
It's going to wake you up. It's very chaotic, but
it's worth every second.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
I'm doing it, protecting this country, providing historic affoor and
combatting the weaponization of intelligence. By the life of h
up and we have talentlessly proven you to be a
lawyer should gain in January sixth blaw to ever sing
United States tennant disgrace to this and an utter calnd.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I'm not surprised.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
I'm not surprised that you continue to lie from your
party and put on a show of you so you
can go raise money for your charod. You are political
buffoon at best. Well, you can take take it to
the bank that the FBI is protected country, state citicide.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
Of California Historic Reform Order. But all you care about
is a child sex predator that was prosecuted by a
prior administration and the Obama Justice Department and the Biden
Justice Department did squad And what did President Trump.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
Do bring new charges courageously? And what have we done
transparent FBI director in history, thirty three thousand pages of.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Information to you.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
I challenge you to say anything incredibly.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
To the truth.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Go ahead and run on the cameras where you want
to go.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Now, No, it was glorious.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I can't believe Adam Schiff is a senator now.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Well, listen to these comments. Why is Schiff not in prison?
Hard to believe Schiff is still a member of Congress.
I mean he is a disgrace.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, and after being a liar, he was rewarded with
being elected senator. I mean it's outrageous and he is
a liar and he's everything that cash Pttel called him
to his face, and it was good to hear.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
During that hearing, Patel said there's no credible information that
Jeffrey Epstein trafficked women to anyone besides himself. Patel insisted
authorities have released all the information on Epstein that was
deemed credible. He went on to say that because the
US Attorney in Florida improperly narrowed the scope of the
investigation into Epstein years ago, the FBI's files are limited.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Well, and he deserves and I hear I'm saying, Adam schiff.
He deserves every investigation coming his way. Look at the
the laundry list of things he is accused of, mortgage fraud,
leaking classified intelligence, I mean, the hunting down of grandmas
that walk through on J six, just walk through the
people's house.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, you said he had a smoking gun too, in
reference to Trump. He had no smoking gun, He had nothing.
He's a liar of a little pencilneck geek, bald headed.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Be careful.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I was just saying that for comedic effect. But he's
a coos man.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah he is.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
He's got crazy eyes. And again he deserves every investigation
coming his way. And why do voters continue to vote
for these absolute clowns. The buffoonery is I mean calling
him a buffoon is nice.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well we talked about this yesterday, and you know, people
might think I'm mean or I'm arrogant or whatever. It's
because we live a bunch of stupid people, you know,
and it's just what it is. And I guess we
have to put up with them, because what else are
you going to do? You know, you can't you can't

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reason with stupid. You can't negotiate with stupid. You can't
reason with stupid, and stupid keeps electing people like Adam Schiff.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Well, I think that there is a massive awakening in
our country. I see it, and you do too. I'm
sure in your scroll the algorithms have been broken. People
are finding their voice, their courage, and I hope that
that follows all the way to the ballot box, and
not just to the church pews on Sunday that were packed.
It's the Charlie Kirk effect. And we already knew kash

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Hotel's a fire brand. He's where he is for a reason.
He earned the spot. He's got the world, the weight
of the world on his shoulders to clean up, you know,
this three letter agency that so many people had, you know,
lost their faith in so and then he's got to
do it in the cesspool, this swamp of you know,
shifty eyed shifts.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
God bless them well, because we used to be try
to be reasonable and civilized and say, well, it's you know,
it's just a matter of opinion. It's a difference of opinion.
But it's not a difference of opinion. It goes way
beyond a difference of opinion. And I think people are
sick of pretending that it's just a difference of opinion.
It's it's stupid as slash evil behavior by these people,

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and a whole lot of people aren't going to put
up with it anymore. And chalk it up to a
difference of opinion.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Well, and that includes where they're spending their time listening
to information about this. I mean, thank god for Scott Jennings.
I don't know if you caught where over the weekend
you got them trying to say that the shooter was
a conservative, and then that was completely a lie. Then
now they're trying to spend that this was oh this
the Kirk's you know, murder is a love story. I

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mean that this sickness that they are attempting to pedal
and twist themselves into.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I you know, well, and that's not it's not only CNN,
it's mainstream. Jimmy Kimmel said the shooter was mega in
his monologue. So what is that?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Well, and you know what's interesting, as I said that
last week, when again a week ago today, the whole
world changed, and I said, wait, I said, you just wait,
they're going to say he is a conservative, he's maga
And then of course we got that over the weekend.
Now it's a love story, and he's not a terrorist
like Luigi Maggioni's.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Not a terrorist. I mean, the whole thing is again,
the world's changed.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I mean, people are awake, and I'm sad to my
core it took something like this to happen.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Republican South Carolina Congressman Nancy May says she's going to
try and strip Democratic Minnesota Congresswoman Elan Omar of her
committee assignments after Omar's comments following the murder of Charlie Cook.
May said that Omar's comments were disgraceful and that she's
also going to try to have her censured. The backlash
against Omar began after she spoke with progressive news outlet

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Zetio for an interview following Kirk's murder. Omar said in
the interview, Kirk was someone who was willing to debate
and downplay the death of George Floyd and previously downplayed
slavery in what black people have gone through in this
country by saying Juneteenth shouldn't exist. There are a lot
of people who are out there talking about him, just
wanting to have a civil debate. There's nothing more eft up,

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you know, like than to completely pretend that you know,
his words and actions have not been recorded and in
existence for the last decade or so. Omar also criticized
Republican figures who have been going after Democrats for their rhetoric, adding,
these people are full of ass and it's important for
us to call them out while we feel anger and sadness.

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And have you know empathy, which Charlie said, no, it
shouldn't exist because that's a newly created word or something
like I have empathy thief for his kids and his
wife and what they're going through.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Omar said, Oh my gosh, this is just first of all,
word scramble. Also lies the idea that they're continuing to
peddle that Charlie Kirk was a racist and a hater
is just four fingers pointing back at them.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Well look, oh boy, here it comes.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Okay, wind it up because.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
People aren't going to like what I have to say here.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Well now we've been warned.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I think Nancy Mayce's grandstanding again. I am no fan
of Elan Omar to say the least, but to pick
her to go after over what she just said, and
that's why I gave it a whole lot of context.
I think his grandstanding. She didn't. Elana Omar didn't say
that Charlie Kirk deserved to die. She didn't even call

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him a racist or anything. She said that. You know,
she's she quoted him or what she thought he was saying,
and said she didn't agree with him and that she
had empathy for he and his family. So Nancy Mayce
is grand standing going after elin Omar. Okay, wait over
this particular you know quotes.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Do you think this?

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Then Ralph Norman is doing the same thing because you
put a statement out yesterday and he is also running
for governor here in South Carolina and he's calling for
Representative John King's censure. So same thing, but move it
here to South Carolina. In our state legislature. He wants
him removed from key committees over the comments of glorifying violence.

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So I just, well, I don't know that. John King said, well,
I mean I read it.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
We can read it.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Yeah, but I mean it's about five paragraphs. But in
the end he says, don't expect us to mourn Charlie
Kirk or celebrate him. What you're seeing as people finally
refusing to carry the burden of honoring someone who never
honored us, and you know the the previous pair paragraphs.
Our newsflash, Maga, sorry but not sorry. Please don't be confused. Maga,

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We as people are not sorry that you're upset. I
know it's confused, confusing for you, because historically black people
have always been on the front lines of fighting, forgiving
and extending grace, even when harm was done to us.
He says, But let me be clear, this is not
one of those. We will not forget. We will not
praise a man who openly hated our very existence.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
What a lie that is.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
But he goes on to say, who dismissed our intelligence,
who ignored our contributions to this country, and who built
his platform on an idea that we don't belong I mean,
it goes on. He says, we and while we are
strong in our faith, our savior never expected us to
be ignorant of our surroundings. So we don't need you

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throwing scriptures at us to excuse hate, as if Charlie
Kirk was a hater. Goes on to say, maybe the
Bible you read is different from ours, because the way
you've assaulted people who have less than you forces me
to question your Christianity and your spirituality. So I started
with the last paragraph, which was, so, no, don't expect

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us to morn Charlie Kirk or celebrate him. What you're
seeing as a people finally refusing to carry the burden
of honoring someone who never honored us. And the response
from you know Republican for gonor Ralph Norman is that
he you know, he's not fit to serve in office.
He says, not fit to serve on one of the
most powerful committees in Columbia, which is the House Judiciary Committee.

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Goes on to say, we need leaders in Colombia to
take action centrare representative King for his defense of political
violence and remove him from the Judiciary Committee since he
clearly doesn't understand that murder is against the law.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well, I mean, I don't agree with these people, but
they have the rights of their opinion and they have
the right to speak their mind and go after the
ones that are calling for violence, go after the vile
ones who are celebratory in their actions following the murder
of Charlie Kirk. It doesn't sound to me, back to
this story about elan Omar, that she's celebratory over the

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murder of Charlie Kirk. Is she left wing? Is she
disagreeable with us over how we view Charlie Kirk? Sure,
but she has the right to do that. And I
think there's better targets out there in this particular case
than maybe ilan Omar. So I think, you know, Nancy
Mace is grandstanding. Sorry, that's what I think. Picked somebody

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else that didn't say that, didn't temper their comments like
ilan Omar did.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
So Charlie Kirk. The I mean, we're seeing many people
do this. They're calling out people for their reaction to this,
And I get your point, it's to what point and
level does it stop the calling out or the I mean,
we're seeing the firing of people at Clemson University, you know,

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we're seeing I mean, I've seen teachers even in Greenville
or other places. Every My feed's filled with people calling
the reaction out. So it's a good So it's a
good question because I found Clemson University students, I found
local school boards where kids stood up and said any
kind of celebration or glorification of this. And I'm not

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suggesting that those two things happen in either one of
these statements that we read, but they don't feel safe.
They don't feel safe, and people on campus feel embolden.
Some Clemson University students saying people are coming up to
them screaming at them. They're defacing their memorials to Kirk.
So it's this is a sticky wicked because not even

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if you're not inciting violence, it's emboldening people to potential violence.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I suppose.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well, defacing a memorial in in somebody's murder is different
than disagreeing with them, is my point. So you know,
and so we can't go after We can't use this
to bludgeon people that disagree with us, or or we
discredit Charlie Kirk's work in my eyes, so go after

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the people that are out there celebrating, and you see,
like almost evil, the laugh and the celebration over his murder,
and then all the mean things they say, and then
they want to go to face his memorial. Sure, go
after them. I have no problem with that. They deserve
to be gone after. But you can't use this as
a political bludgeon just to attack people that you don't

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agree with. Now. Omar responded to the backlash and a
Nancy Mace in a post on x saying she disagreed
with Charlie Kirk vehemently about his rhetoric, but does not
wish violence on anyone. Right wing accounts trying to spin
a false story of when I condemned his murder multiple
times is fitting for their agenda to villainize the left

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to hide from the fact that Donald Trump jens up
hate on a daily basis. So again, you know, political
back and forth, and again with Nancy Mason, the drama
go after somebody that really, you know, did one of
the things we just described, defaced the memorial, put out

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a tweet where they're cackling like a witch in pure
joy over the murder of Charlie Kirk. You know that
indicates an unhinged individual. Simply disagreeing with somebody does not
good Wednesday morning to you. I'm glad that you're with
us this morning. New Jersey has become the fourteenth state
in the nation to legalize human composting as an alternative

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to traditional burial. The practice was signed into law last week.
Funeral homes in the guard state will be allowed to
offer the practice, known as natural organic reduction within the
next ten months. The state will oversee the licensing of
facilities that want to offer the service.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
I'm trying not to laugh here because it's a serious subject,
but good God.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Really, so apparently they throw you in a container with
some organic material like wood chips, maybe some grass clippings.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
See how it's hard to chocol.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
It and you're not even sure state of all? I mean,
I say that for comedic effect. The woodschips part's right,
the grass clippings, who knows, Maybe that's true. They need
organic material to do it. Wow, And then they let
it go through its process and then they sift it,
and then they give it to you and you use
the compost. Well, I guess you can use it however

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you want. Most people use it to create a memorial garden.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
I mean, so it's kind of cool it is, but
a garden of flowers, I hope, and not to makeatoes.
I don't know if I want to be eating. And
it feels a little bit cannibal with it.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well, what do you think is makes up the dirt
out there?

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Yeah? I understand, I do.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
I get the fertilizer part of it, Just the idea
of my fanny fertilizing it just feels a little odd
or any other part of me.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
You know, the dirt's made up of all kinds of
things that you know, so I mean planting tomatoes and
it would probably be fine, you know, psychologically, maybe not
so much.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
But yeah, do you tell the person that you made
the gaspacho or the salsa or nice tomato sandwich, that
you know, Michael Blaze grew those tomatoes or there's a
little bit of Michael Blaze and those tomatoes. Yeah, do
you have to tell them?

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Now? Does that person feel well?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Like I said, psychologically, but it's not different than any
other you know, soil out there tastes like fire, made
up of all kinds of dead things. So it's kind
of creepy, but it's kind of cool at the same time,
I think, so what to each his own. Yeah, so
I'm not so sure of my opinion on this, I am.

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I mean, I'm not against them doing it. If somebody
wanted to do it, would I do it to a
loved one? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
I mean, only if they asked. I would think.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well, I mean, think about this, So let's embalm them
with some fluid that's going to make them rock hard
and not decay naturally, and then we're going to put
them in a box and we're going to put them
in the ground.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Right, I mean, I believe me, we could we could
talk for quite some time about this.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
I'm all about, you know.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Donate on my organs and then ashes to ashes dust
the dust.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, so instead of burning you, they're just going to
compost you. So they're just going to do it a
little bit slower.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
There's some grass clippings and some wood ships.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Have you seen talk about no frills bear here.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Have you seen where you could literally be like the
you know, the the body kind of put into a
feudal like position. I've seen this online. I don't know
what they call it, but like be planted like a tree.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
We've talked about this. This was years ago, but yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Know what you're talking about. It's like kind of the base.
It's kind of like this, but you curl it up
and then you put the plant, the seedling in the
middle of it.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Right, yeah, and then you and this is an option
basically out there.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I think I'd rather be composted.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Well, or there's the reef, you know, you get thrown
out there as like a natural reef into the ocean.
There's a I mean, you're processed in some fashion. I
can't remember exactly what or how, but your fish food
as opposed to getting growing something in the garden, well.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
You're going back to the environment one way or the other.
So I guess it's a matter of opinion on how
you should do that.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Now you have options.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
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