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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Erica Kirk says she forgives her husband's accused assassin. Speaking
at Charlie Kirk's memorial in Arizona, she said her husband
dedicated his life to doing God's will. Kirk went on
saying after he was assassinated, there weren't ryans or revolution,
but there was revival. Kirk said she was told Charlie
didn't suffer and when she last saw him, he had
a half smile on his face. The thirty one year
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old conservative activist was shot and killed earlier this month.
While speaking at a rally in Utah.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
On the cross, our Savior said, Father, forgive.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Them, for they not know what they do. That man,
that young man, I forgive him.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
That was one of the most powerful moments of that
And I watched, tuned in to our live coverage, and
so I was listening, and then in other parts I
was watching, and when she spoke, I was watching, and
that one it reminded me of the grace that we
saw after the Emmanuel Nine here in the Low Country,
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where one of those who were Slaine and the mother Emmanuel.
The family members said we forgive you to Dylan Rufe.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
It took me back there.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, those are stronger people than I could be.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I think I feel the same way, and didn't Trump. Actually,
the president when he spoke last night, he said the
same thing. Ultimately, when it came to his you know
political rivals or those who you know have so much
angst against him, he said, basically, Erica was a bigger
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person than him.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well. The President also said that the US is a
country in mourning, and he said that Kirk was a
champion of free speech and did what was right for
our country. Trump said Kirk was always good at drawing
big crowds and his memorial was no different. The President said,
one of the last things Charlie asked him was to
save Chicago, Kirk's hometown, and Trump added that he will
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save Chicago.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
On that terrible day September tenth, twenty twenty five, our
greatest evangelist for American liberty became immortal.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
He showed respect and compassion for everyone. We will prevail
over the forces of wickedness and evil. They cannot imagine
what they have awakened.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Feel disconnected in some way, So this makes me feel
connected again.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Pretty incredible. The amount of people who overnight waited in
the dark to get in. I think they set over
three hundred thousand people. We know one hundred thousand were
inside the arena. Then there was the overflow at the
hockey stadium next door.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
The arena was packed, There was another twenty thousand next door,
and who knows how many just outside.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Well in the millions who tuned in. My phone started
going off, Actually, Saturday, where are you going to be
to watch this? Then Sunday more messages.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Were coming in. You know, where are you going to
be to watch this?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And you know my response to a lot of folks was,
you know, I know that many of you were headed
into or out of church, depending on when I was
getting the messages and returning them. And all I could
think is, why isn't every church in America opening this
up to their parishioners to gather around and watch this together.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well maybe some of them did, well, I hope so.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And I encouraged online on our social for people to
drop where they were, where they were going to be
if their church was having a special service or you
know session, you know, opening up their doors. But it
was I mean, look at the dignitaries that were there,
the amount of cabinet members, the the appearance of Elon
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actually shaking hands with Trump. I mean, there were there
were so many things. The young people, the amount of
young people.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Well, it was impactful and it shows the impact that
he made in his short thirty one years.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well but then you of course wake up this morning
to you know, the reaction from the left. I mean,
the Huffington Post went hyperbolic, calling Charlie Kirk's memorial service
a rage fest with Trump hate eulogy, as if Trump's
you know, eulogy was to Charlie Kirk was hateful.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Well, the left is going to be the left, and
they're going to continue to spew their hatred and uh,
you know, let them do it. They keep using more
and more ground, and I know, the more that people
find out the true character of them.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Well, yeah, here here, Erica Kirk reached fest. This woman
has you know, a young has you know, little children lost,
her husband is having to go through all of these
emotions in real time. Look what they put together in
ten days, basically hundreds of thousands of people coming together
and they rally, not in a rage fest, but in
a revival.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
So I just it's.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Like you said, I suppose we should expect it, but
it doesn't sometimes make it any easier to well, it's
never palpable, I suppose.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well, I don't know if you have to accept it,
but it's just the way that it is. So they'll
keep on doing it and don't expect any differently from them.
Authority say the gun used to kill Charlie Kirk maybe
decades old and untraceable. Prosecutors identified the rifle as a
Mouser Model ninety eight bolt action rifle, a type originally
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manufactured in Germany for military use during both World Wars.
The rifle made predate US laws enacted in nineteen sixty
eight following the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, which
required firearms to carry serial numbers or other identifying marks.
Authlready said the firearm belonged to the grandfather of Tyler Robinson,
the twenty two year old Utah man accused of assassinating Kirk.
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Police a Robinson may have chosen that rifle because it
was difficult to trace.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I was reading an American Rifleman article about this Mauser
Model ninety eight. And because after this was all discovered,
a lot of people were saying, how is it possible
that he could break down this rifle? It wasn't an
easy thing to do. And they have an interesting piece
by piece, you know, mapping of this firearm, you know,
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going into this article, and it's very interesting. But basically,
this American rifleman, it's a you know, NRA magazine. A
lot of people get said, it's a you know, truly
great firearm. But I can't help but go back to
the grandfather, and I can't tell if this man is
still alive or not, and I pray that he's not,
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because what an awful thing to have happened to a firearm,
you know that you wanted to pass down generations of
you know two have something like this happen.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Well, there's a lot of unanswered questions, and the FBI
actually even acknowledged the unanswered questions and said, look, we
can't come out and right now and tell you everything
that we know because the investigation's ongoing. But you know,
sooner or later we will release all the facts that
we have. And this goes not only for you know,
his actions with the rifle, but the hand signals in
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the crowd and whether there was a second shooter.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Oh yeah, there's a lot of things out here that
are getting picked apart by the internet.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, the FBI is investigating those things. So it's not
only getting picked apart by the Internet. The FBI is investigating.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Well, the it's also come out, you know, in this
ongoing investigation, you're hearing from you know, the doctors, at
least by way of the memorial service, and the doctor
that was you know, with Charlie in the back and
his last moments and trying to you know, get a
heartbeat in the back of the vehicle that threw him
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into and you know, couldn't shut the back hatch, and
you know, sharing all of these things and the doctor
literally saying that you know, this was a catastrophic shot
that he couldn't have served, you know, survived, and I
the fact that he stopped a bullet that the doctor
actually said, it's it's pretty much a miracle that you know,
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the that they did retrieve the bullet, that it actually stopped.
He with such a young, healthy guy, that that that
bullet could have gone on to pass through and kill somebody.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Somebody else.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
So to me, if they have the bullet here, I
mean this an eight millimeter mausoramo that this gun takes
and so that's very different than maybe something else, you
know what I mean. If it's a rare gun and
the bullet matches the gun, then to me, that's going
to take all the other stuff away, all the other noise.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
If that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It's not exactly a rare guy And I mean it
was used during both World Wars. You have to imagine
that there's a ton of them out there.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Well more I should have said of an antique firearm.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But you know, it shows the premeditation that went into
this shooting.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, there's so much speculation on the internet, and I
you know, I feel for the family. I know, I
pray actually that a lot of the stuff coming their
way is positive, because there's just a lot of negativity
out there. The ABC, one of the things that they
posted last night was from the service and it was
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along the lines the commet section. I would say the
actual speech itself was a piece from Oh gosh, I
would say the most passionate, not gonna say angry, but
they made it that way. Sadly, in the comment section
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on ABC, and I just all I can think is
I pray that you know, the family is not reading this,
but there are plenty of fans out there who are
just talked about this is like a Nazi fest and
listen to, you know, all the rage and the hate.
It's Michael Miller's speech that they posted, and I didn't.
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I mean, I went page after page after page into
the comment section on ABC's clip that they posted of
Michael Miller, and I mean there wasn't a nice comment
in there whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, no, I mean the comments from the left are outrageous.
You know, all you have to do is look through
them and then look at the lefties in Hollywood and
what they're saying about it. And they're more concerned with
Jimmy Kimmel's cancelation than they are with Charlie Kirk losing
his life. So they think that, you know, Charlie Kirk
losing his life was a righteous act, is all you
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can surmise from it, and that you know, Jimmy Kimmel,
you know, was done wrong and that he's his First
Amendment rights were triumpled on. And anybody who tells you
that this is a first Amendment rights issue with Jimmy
Kimmel is lying to you and is not to be trusted.
Either that or they're just ignorant, which shouldn't mean you
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shouldn't trust them, because it's not a First Amendment issue.
Nobody stifled Jimmy Kimmel's free speech. He's free to say
what he wants, but he's not free to say what
he wants on the airwaves, and he's not free to
say what he wants while under employment of somebody else
who says otherwise. He can go out a street corner
and say whatever he wants, he can go online and
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say whatever he wants. It's not a free speech issue.
It's not a First Amendment rights issue. So anybody that
you hear framing it that way is either ignorant or
they're willfully misleading you.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
And they're I don't know if you've I have caught
this yet, but you know they're going off about how
the fact that there was voter registration at his memorial yesterday.
You know, oh my gosh, imagine if Democrats did the
you know, turning funerals political. Okay, you did the same
thing with George Floyd in his funeral and maybe not assassinate,
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you know, such a giant of a conservative movement, and
you won't see things like this. And by the way,
this was part of Charlie Kirk's mission.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, they're threatened by Charlie Kirk. And that's why you
see such anger and such hatred is because they were
threatened by him. And that's why you see them take
his words out of context and try to use it
against him to paint a totally different picture of who
he was and the message that he tried to spread
than what he was actually trying to do. Because they're
threatened by him, You're not going to see anybody on
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the left come out and say we honor him and
he was trying to work to bring us together, because
that's anesthetical to the message that they're trying to spread
and to the work that they're trying to do. They
are trying to separate you and when you start looking
to a higher faith. I mean, this reminds me even
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of communism. What does you know, what's the first thing
when communists take over a country, what's the first thing
they do? They take away your guns, and then they
take away your religion so you can't fight back. And
then the belief that there's a higher being than you
removes any kind of belief that you look to governmental leaders,
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politicians or anybody else to be a leader and to
just have that sway.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Over you their ability to control you.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And that's why it's such a threat to them.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
It was just an incredibly moving service when Erica said,
you know, I forgive you basically you know, her husband's assassin,
and it took me back to the not even days
after the Emmanuel nine massacres. At Mother Emmanuel of nine
Beautiful you know, parishioners and one of the family members
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stood up and said, you know, we forgive you to
Dylan Roof. It took me back there in my heart
and mind.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, as we've mentioned, I mean, it takes a lot
of strength to say I forgive my husband's killer, or
in the case of the Emmanuel Nine, you know, to
forgive Dylan Rufe. But I think at the end of
the day, you have to otherwise you're going to carry
something within you that's has the potential to destroy you.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Yeah, just raw to at your core.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
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