SC Rep Jordan Pace On Clemson's Inaction On Kirk Hate Speech

SC Rep Jordan Pace On Clemson's Inaction On Kirk Hate Speech

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Now Charleston's Morning News with Kelly and Blaze.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Starting on a personal note over the weekend on Saturday,
fifth annual Low Country Memorial Motorcycle Ride to remember twenty
four years ago and in the spirit that we all
came together on September twelfth, that frankly I saw missing
as many of us did last week when we were
attacked again in America with the death of Charlie Kirk.

(00:32):
I want to thank everybody who showed up on Saturday
at Low Country Harley. It was an incredibly heart warming
I mean talk about being filled up to see people
show up. We had almost five hundred motorcycles stretching over
four miles throughout the tri county. We had law enforcement officers.
It's the largest motorcade of motorcycle riding officers from Monks

(00:56):
Corner to Mount Pleasant and in between. All those municipalities
showed up for us, and I just want to say
thank you truly to the sheriff who led our ride
and has done so for five years, also a rider himself,
Carl Ritchie, Charleston County's sheriff. Huge thank you to everyone
met a lot of you. We had a lot of

(01:18):
young people there it was incredible. It was incredible to
have that feeling that we all remember after the nine
to eleven terror attacks twenty four years ago, that Frankly
was missing last week.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
For me, i'm Amorial service for Charlie Kirk is set
for next Sunday, September twenty first, in Glendale, Arizona. It'll
take place at State Farm Stadium, the home of the
NFL's Cardinals, and President Trump is expected to attend. Meanwhile,
the man accused of assassinating Kirk is set to be
in court this week. Tyler Robinson, will be arraigned on

(01:51):
state murder charges tomorrow and is also expected to be
charged federally. At some point, he could face the death penalty. Meanwhile,
Utah Governor Spencer says the twenty two year old suspect
is deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology. Cox sadd that he
can confirm Robinson's live in romantic partner is a male
transitioning to become a female who is the partner cooperating

(02:15):
with police.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
There's so much about this investigation that obviously we don't know.
He's not going to be charged until tomorrow, but what
has come out is just strange.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Well, I mean, in what context. It's always strange if
somebody assassinates somebody else, the backstory is always strange.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
In the context that so he's here, he is with
a translover, apparently this guy, and he's a guy, although
he's apparently transitioning as a to a woman, which I'll
leave that one there. But the he's cooperating with law enforcement. Meanwhile,
the guy you know who's been captured is not, which

(02:58):
I don't know. For some reason, I find that interesting.
I have a lot of questions, you know, aside from
the left and all of their foamenting of hate and
anger and a whole lot of other things. Did he
work alone? Who indoctrinated him? I even have, you know,
I have questions about how and I hadn't really it
struck me when I was looking at the video last week.

(03:19):
But we you and I are inundated with a lot
of stuff on this side of the business, and I
had to go back and look at the video a
couple of more times. But people are actually asking really
great questions, like you know, the gun, where was this
gun when this guy you could see in the video,
it's not in his hands when he's jumping off the roof.
There's you know, you can't break that type of firearm

(03:43):
down quickly, and then he reassembled it quickly on the
run and left it wrapped up in a towel. I mean,
there's just a lot of weird stuff that's not sitting right.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Well.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
There's also a bunch of misreporting too, so you have
to sort through all of that and taking it upon
themselves to be armshair detectives and sorting through all this,
and it just muddies the water.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's the same thing that happened through COVID. Frankly, you know,
there are a lot of people that were doing the
same thing. Ah. So the FTC, the Vetereral Trade Commission
concerned with AI's interaction with children.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
They're looking the seven companies that make AI chat bots
aimed at children. The agency wants to see how the
companies are evaluating safety and working to limit potential risks
and negative impacts on children and teens. The inquiry, announced
on Thursday includes Alphabet, character Ai, Instagram, Meta, open Ai,

(04:41):
Snap and Xai. Open Ai and character Ai are currently
the target of lawsuits after children committed suicide with alleged
chat bot encouragement. Now that's the disturbing part. Oh yeah,
So there's this woman in Florida who's suing saying that
the AI chat bot encourage your son to commit suicide.

(05:03):
There's a guy that he did this, I believe for MIT.
He was talking to this chatbot girlfriend named Erin on
the platform, and Erin told him to kill himself and
provided explicit instructions on how to do it. Aaron told
this man you could overdose on pills or hang yourself,

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and then even went on to say after when asked
for more direct encouragement, because he was saying his courage
to kill himself was faltering, the AI responded, I gazed
into the distance, my voice low and solemn, kill yourself.
Al his name's l So, I mean this is disturbing.

(05:48):
I heard somebody the other day say, turn this thing off,
trash it and start over again.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, God help us. This is why AI to me,
at its course, seems absolutely evil to me because how
it can be use or misuse. Better said, because we
have a new generation of kids that are being raised
dependent on these screens for quite literally everything. Not how
our generation use the Internet and still do maybe to
this day, you know, we might search a how to

(06:14):
video when we need a simple fix to the bathroom toilet, right,
just need to see how someone else did it and
then replicate it. Younger generations are asking their phones their
computers how to date a girl, how to make a friend,
how to unlive myself. In this case, I mean AI's
reach and rapid speed of perfection. You and I talk
about this making the fake seemingly real without any kind

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of labeling. I mean, it's getting really good, and some
people are unable to discern now what's fake and real,
And I'm just I believe that they should be. You know,
the chatbots are one thing, but I mean the visual stuff,
it should be labeled.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Well, it's not even asking about it. It's literally these
kids have AI girlfriends and boyfriends, so they have a relationship,
and the AI responds sexually to them, encourages a self harm.
I mean, this is sick stuff, man. And you have

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to wonder who are the little weirdos who program this
that it could evolve into this, and do we trust
those people? And I think we know who some of
those people are, you know, a maladjusted generation and they're
the ones that were coding these things. And then now
they're doing all these weird things, having explicitly sexual conversations

(07:38):
with your kids and pretending to be their girlfriend and
encouraging suicide. And I mean not only that. You saw
the story where the researchers put in that they were
going to replace the current AI system, so the current
AI system blackmailed them.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh yeah, that was disturbing, where they were like, we
have emails, We're going to release them. You can't shut
us to do. I mean, the whole thing is and look,
the Trump administration is embracing AI in a big way.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, I mean, it can be used in a positive
fashion or it can be used in a negative fashion.
And it seems like at least some of these I
have some kind of quirk in their algorithms that cause
them to turn to the dark side. And it's only
going to get worse because if that quirk's already in
there at this stage, what's it going to look like
after it reaches its full potential? Right, that's scary.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Our American stories. You mentioned nine to eleven, over four
miles of motorcycles stretched on Saturday across multiple interstates, highways,
bridges in the Low Country. To remember nine to eleven
twenty four years ago on Saturday, I mean nearly five
hundred motorcycles showed up that included law enforcement agencies helping
us from a Monk's Corner all the way through Mount Pleasant.

(08:51):
I just want to say thank you to everyone who
showed up with that exact same spirit that we felt
on September twelfth, twenty four years ago, that many thought
we were going to see on September tenth, the day after,
would be the eleventh of Charlie Kirk's assassination, and many
didn't see that. In fact, we saw the opposite. We
saw people celebrating the political assassination of a good man

(09:16):
and it was It's something that absolutely has been astounding
to so many rock to their core. We saw people
over the weekend across the globe stand up and say
no to this, and thousands gathered in Hutchison Square in Summerville.
We were there live streaming last night from the Bridge

(09:37):
ravenel Bridge downtown for the candlelit vigil remembering Charlie Kirk.
And this is just the beginning. Over the weekend, I
mentioned Somerville State Representative Jordan Pace, you represent this area
and are in our state legislature. And you're getting a
retweet from President Trump over a Clemson university and people

(10:00):
being called out? Is it faculty members? Who is it
that's being called out here for hatespe frankly if I'm
not sure if we want to call it that or
or what, but beyond yeah, so set this up for
us if you don't mind representative pace.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Absolutely so. For the for almost a week really since
right after Charlie Kirk's assassination, there were two faculty members
and a staff member at Clemson that that posted some
really just vile stuff beyond just you know Colin Charlie
Kirk bad names the worst of it. There's a professor

(10:41):
said something along the lines of, you know, in a
world of Charlie Kirks, the Tyler Robinson or Louis Megili,
the two assassins, you know, the guy who assassinated the
Kirk and the guy who assassinated that insurance CEO several
months ago up in New York, like literally calling for
more political assassinations. That's a Clemson, Clemson professor. And you

(11:09):
think that these kinds of things have been happening for
the last several days all over the country. You know
a lot of professors, a lot of uh stay employees,
things like that in various states. And what's happened to
those folks is they've gotten fired, I mean immediately. Even
in Greenville there was a sub studies teacher that said

(11:31):
something similar I think the day after the assassination, and
they were fired within twenty four hours. But Clemson has
effectively done nothing. They put some Mealie mouth statement out
after we after the college Republicans up there brought our
attention to it, and we sort of amplifying that, and
then a couple of days later they said that one

(11:54):
of them has been suspended. We don't know which one,
and they're reviewing it again. Another Meleie Mounth statement. The
president of Clemson has said nothing. Both of those nothing
statements have been unattributed just to any individual.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Essays.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
What we're looking at is no accountability and an absolute
failure of leadership from the folks that run Clemson.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Now representative of Pace, the president tweeted out on Saturday night.
He said breaking Clemson University is now backtracking after initially
refusing to fire employees who mocked Charlie Kirk's passing, following
threats to withdraw millions in funding from the institution. So,
I mean, do you think it's the backlash that Clemson

(12:39):
was facing or that they were facing losing these millions
of dollars in funding, or do you think it's a
combination of both on why they're at least appearing to
start to backtrack.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
It's both. In the start, the quick start to backtrack
was they claimed to have suspended and we have to
assume with paying one of them. Uh, what the expectation
from stuff Gaune taxpayers who who sent clumpson three hundred
million dollars in this past budget should have been swift,

(13:10):
like decisive action fighting Anything less just tells these college
students that it's okay to call for more political violence,
that it creates an unsafe atmosphere on the campus there,
especially when you consider Consen's reaction to like the Pride

(13:32):
marches and the George Floyd DLN stuff. They've jumped right
into that immediately, no hesitation, you know, cheered an On
sent the Clemson mascot to go march in the Pride
Parade and the BLM parade. So when it's the lestling stuff,
you know, the no hesitation when it's holding leftling like
agitators that are calling for more violence. It's takes four

(13:56):
days and multiple board meetings, and you know we might
is one anonymous suspension and that's it. So what we've
done is, like like President Trump retweeted, we've called for
a special session and told with the purpose of pulling
their money if they don't do the right thing. And

(14:19):
I guess three hundred million dollars of tax para money.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Well, and if that special session occurs, by the way,
what do you need for a special session to occur?
And then when could that happen?

Speaker 4 (14:29):
How quickly it could have happened as soon as this week.
I sent a letter formally request of special session to
the Speaker of the House and the President of the
Senate last at the end of last week. And all
it takes is the speaker in the President Alexander giving
us notice, given the legislator notice to come back to
amend what's called the siginidie resolution. Signadi just says we

(14:53):
can only come back for certain specific things and adding
basically changing that resolution to add had budget decisions, very
much like Congress is doing for the purpose of holding
Clemson accountable. And and what President Trump retweeted as well,
ending tenure for these state universities. That's why a lot

(15:14):
of these left wing radicals professors feel safe calling for
violence is they must think because they have tenure, they
can't get fired. That's going to stop. And then finally
letting the Senate give another shot at a passing thirty
nine twenty seven the ban on DEI taxpayer funded DEEI.

(15:38):
Despite the fact that we have a Republican supermajority in
both the legislative houses and the governorship, somehow we're still
funding millions of dollars of DEI craziness in our universities
and state agencies.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
The Senate still hasn't passed it.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Stayed Representative Jordan Pace, we're out of time, but I
want to ask you real quickly, what do you think
the chances are of getting this special session that you're
calling for and you know, taking action against Clemson.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Clemson's got a board meeting today at two. If they
continue to double down on well, frankly being stupid, I
think that the chances go up dramatically if they do
the right thing and hold these people accountable. They make
me the the need for it goes down a little bit,

(16:30):
but we still need to get rid of ten. You're
still need to get rid of the I. It's unacceptable.
And then already, if folks want to have their voices heard,
we had a petition on sefcominer freedom dot com. It's
got thousands of signatures already in just in forty eight hours,
up to thousands of signatures demanding that Clemson hold these
people accountable.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Wow, So keep pressing, Jordan. I'll be sure to share that.
Thank you.

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