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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is Charleston's Morning News with Kelly and Plays.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Running down today's top stories. Welcome to a Wednesday edition
of the show. Here at six fifteen.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
New York City's mayor says he believes the gunman who
shot and killed four people at a Manhattan office building
on Monday was targeting the NFL. Shane Timurraw, a twenty
seven year old with a history of mental illness, showed
up at a Midtown high rise housing NFL headquarters slinging
an M four rifle. Mayor Eric Adams believes Tomorrow was
gunning for the league office, but took the wrong elevator bank.
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A suicide note found on Tomorrow expressed hostility towards the NFL.
The shooter played high school football in Los Angeles and
believed that CTE, the brain disease linked to too many
blows to the head, may have caused his problems. He wrote,
please study brain for CTE. I'm sorry. Mayor Eric Adams
says pieces of the semi automatic rifle used in the
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killings were bought by an associate of the suspect, and
detectives they are working to id that person.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
This makes me so mad. Honestly, we talked about this earlier.
And you know, if you are suicide, you know, why
in the world did you go and take innocent lives?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, I mean I can't answer that. And I mean
that's almost an angel old question, I know.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And the idea that you know, you have someone who is.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Aiding you, well, i'd stop short. You know, how would
you like to be that person? Help about this guy?
Had he had a concealed carry permit or whatever. They
have a permit to carry a gun whatever they call
them there, and whatever the law is there in Nevada.
He had a firearm permit. So if the government felt
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that he was qualified to carry a firearm, why wouldn't
a so called associate So his buddy maybe, you know,
bought some pieces of this gun. I mean, if you're
into guns and you hang out with people, they're like here,
try this out, or here I'll get this for you
or whatever. So I don't think we can be so
quick to point the finger at this so called associate.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well it's interesting actually that that's the way it's being framed.
An associate, right, and listen to your point that he
was a security guard. I mean, he was hired to
protect people. The whole thing is just horrifically incredibly sad
the individual last night. But I cannot help but this
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yet again with these Democrats in New York City, whether
it's Governor Kathy Hochel or you know, Eric Adams will
say something here and there where you're like, wow, you
know he's he's not as bad as you think he is.
And then he gets up here with hokeel and at
this vigil last night, and what do they do? What
do they do? Typical Democrat fashion. They turned this into
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it's about the gun, It's about the tool, it's not
about the fool. And I don't know if you caught
Eric Adams saying this, but did you know we.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Cannot respond to sisseless gun laws through visuals. It must
be responded through legislation. It is time to turn the
corner of a society where automatic weapons are as easy
to get as a cell phone.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Really, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
And you know what, he's a former police officer. He
ought to know that that's not an automatic weapon.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, and he also ought to know that it's not
easy to get an automatic weapon as a cell phone.
That is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard to
me it sounds as if, and I realize is what
you're saying, he should know better, You ought to know better.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Well, they frame it that way on purpose. They do
know better. They're playing games, so to call a semi
automatic weapon, and for those who do no, most of
our audience probably knows. So an automatic weapon, you squeeze
the trigger and it fires off every round until it's empty.
That's an automatic weapon, and they're illegal in most cases.
By the way, a semi automatic weapon fires every time
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you pull the trigger, so you don't have to, you know,
do the you know, you think of a bolt action
rifle or something where you have to every time that
you fire. Well, a semi automatic automatically spring loads and
you pull the trigger, and you can fire as fast
as you can pull the trigger. But that's far from automatic.
Just squeezing the trigger and having the gun empty itself.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well they're pulling the trigger. On politicizing this moment for
gun control and it's people control, and frankly, law abiding
citizens in New York City, a city that you have ruined,
Democrats are not the problem, you know. In fact, more
criminals would be stopped if law abiding citizens could get
their hands on firearms. Think about the amount of people
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I mean, and I have family in New York that
I mean, and they're not in the city. They're in
the more conservative part, you know, in the upstate.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Well, and again, the people that are going to break
the law are not going to pay attention to the
gun laws. So only law abiding citizens are going to
pay attention to the gun laws. And they're going to
be sitting ducks for people like this exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well, and I also think of and I'm waiting to
hear and see more about the there was a security
guard was the second person to be targeted after the
NYPD officer. The thirty seven year old expecting his third
baby on the way was taken out by this shooter,
and he was described at least the security officer in
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the building was behind his desk, under the desk, he
was cowering down. And my only thought is, my god,
he must have not had a firearm.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, maybe not. And you know, I mean, that could
have to do with the law, I could have to
do with the policy of the people who hired him, right.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I just would. I had this conversation with one of
our coworkers yesterday because we've got a guy in finance
that actually that's where he's headquartered, even though he has
an office here. And I know, you know who I'm
talking about, and he says, our building, iHeart has a
building very close to this area. And they were on lockdown.
Emails were going out. He was talking about the security
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that we have in our building and how they shut
down elevators, locked the lockdown everything, And you know, I asked,
I'm like, you know, does our did our security have?
You know, were they armed? Because if these people weren't,
and I because I wanted to know about the laws
in New York City and so I the answer was,
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and I'm not sure if he's right or not, but
he seemed to think that they were they that they
would I would hope. So think about this, blaze. Would
you ever have a job where it was your job
to protect and serve and not carry a firearm.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But you know, that's a personal choice and whether you
want to accept that policy or not. But you know,
just because they have and I'm not saying that, he
says the Mayor Eric Adams, you know, nonsensical laws, but
those don't apply to people in security guard positions and
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things like that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I know people who've worked here in the Low Country
who as security who couldn't carry and don't.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Well, that's because of well a few different things. It's
mostly company policy, right.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I just can't imagine taking that job. I couldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
And the real issue here is, and they try to
make it about gun control again, it's mental health and
we have to find out why people are why there's
more people suffering from mental illness now, it seems, and
more violently than ever before. And that's the issue not
with the firearm. It's with the person wilding the firearm
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and what their mental state is. Recovering this morning's top stories,
and this one happens to me about illicit drugs and
I just happened to see on the TV. We can't
hear obviously you'd be able to hear it over the microphone,
but a Berkeley County deputy collapsed after fentanyl exposure and
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they just had the video. It was scary, and you
think about what you know, these police officers have to
deal with, and that's one worry they shouldn't have to
worry about. What they do is handling drug addicts. And
then you know you can absorb that stuff through your skin,
and that's scary. The Trump administration is going after a
substance readily available at convenience stores and vape shops across
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the US. FDA officials say they're beginning the process to
classify seven OH as an illicit drug. Seven O is
a byproduct of kretom, often referred to as gas station heroin.
Officials warnant's being marketed to children and could lead to
a dependence or addiction. During the announcement, HHS Secretary RFK
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Junior spoke about his own heroin addiction battle. Did you
realize that RFK Junior was addicted to heroin at one point?
I did not, nor did I, but for fourteen years
when he was a younger man, he was a teenager
up into his twenty was he says, addicted to heroin?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, and I know some people who because I didn't
know a whole lot about creedom, and you know, you
can go buy some of the vape shops and you
see them in the window and lights it says we
have kretom. And there are people that I've talked to
who have massive pain. I think it was back pain.
As one specific person I'm thinking about, and they take
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creatim every day like a tea, like drink a you know, water.
Add this powder to their water every morning and it's
like having a cup of tea at the morning.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
But where do they get the powder? I mean, is
this what they're talking about in the gas stations and.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Vape Gosh, it's you can you know, probably on your
morning commute or in your afternoon commute, you probably drive
by a vape shop that's got the kratum in the window.
You see the lights lit up.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I just assumed that it was vape and not some
sort of power that you are, a power that you may.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, it's like a powder and some people press you know,
I don't know how many different variations of creative there are,
but you know, they'll press them into like a cake
or a pill or whatever else. I mean, I've seen
different versions of this. But people use it for pain,
I know that much.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Well, I mean, look at what and that's the downside
of all of this addiction is that it's hard for
doctors now to and it's hard for a patient to
get a prescribed pain medication.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That's not addictive all that.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, no, just because the doctors are afraid they're going
to come after them because they already have in a
lot of cases, and in some cases the doctors deserved it,
but you know, they're very hesitant to give you any
opiates or anything like that for you know, just severe pain.
And so anybody who's had severe pain issues knows what
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I'm talking about, Like they won't. You know, you can't
alleviate the pain because you can't get the medication that's
designed for it, because they're afraid that you're either going
to get addicted or they're going to get sued over
it or both. Well, we see a tariff rebate. A
Missouri congressman is introducing legislation to provide tariff rebates to
Americans and their children. Senator Josh Holly is seeking to
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give six hundred dollars rebates and said in a statement,
Americans deserve a tax rebate after four years of Biden
policies that have devastated families, savings, and livelihoods. Payments are
designed to offset higher prices resulting from tariffs. The legislation
would be modeled on the Direct Payments Congress authorized in
twenty twenty Cares Act, and payment amounts could be reduced
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depending on household income.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I still want my doage check. Now, I know that
there are a lot of people will say, oh, you
can't be a fiscal conservative if you believe in these checks,
these rebate checks back with tariffs. But because many are
saying and not Josh Holly obviously, but many are saying, oh, well,
we should use this to pay down our debt. This
is our time to pay our debt down.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, many are saying that, I mean, I disagree with
these rebates simply because it's our money to begin with.
Stop taking so much of it. How about that instead
of like when people start hurting, oh here, we're going
to here the government, the politicians are going to come
to your rescue and give you some of your money.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Better, how about some fiscal restraint exactly?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
How about wasting our money? How about stop wasting our
money and taking so much of it in the first place.
How about that? That sounds like a better plan to me.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, and this is what DOJE expose, and I think
probably to a level with which none of us could
have ever imagined.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, I don't know about you know, billions, I think
we could imagine that.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I can't. I can't imagine that billions of my tax
dollars were going to trans ballets and Ireland.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I mean, you had no idea that that was going on.
The government was just wasting.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Money with which I could have never imagined. Oh, come on,
what doage expose in US AID money? And where it
was going you could I could not have imagined that
it was going to you know, uh, buy condoms in
parts of Africa and some other things. I mean some
of it, yes, but others no. It's infuriating.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well, I mean, you know, if.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
To the level with which it was being spent, I'm.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Not being denigrating to you, but if you're paying attention,
you know that government's been wasting money on all kinds
of ridiculous things for years and years and years of course,
and that's why everybody was surprised that they only found
one hundred and eighty billion or whatever. Remember it started
at two trillion, went to a trillion on the estimates
of what they were going to find, and then ended
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up being one hundred and eighty billion dollars. And everybody's like, well,
maybe the government's more efficient than we thought. Ha. You know,
they just waste money left and right, and like I said,
and even in this case, take your money and then say, oh,
you're hurting here, have a little bit of your money back.
Were aren't we heroes? So I mean to your point,
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they've been, you know. And this goes even domestically, all
the stories about the remember the thousand dollars toilet seats
at the Department of Defense and all of these things.
So they're wasting it domestically, They're wasting it on stupid programs,
like you said, all around the world. And what is
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the need for that for somebody to suffer to have
less money to care for their family here so we
can fund these woke di initiatives literally all the way
around the world.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
What's infuriating to me is the fact that our and
when we talked about fiscal restraint from our lawmakers in
which they don't seem to really care. And there's I mean,
you know, you can point on the Republican side of
that is our debt and how it grows. I was
looking at the numbers and it is just I mean,
there's a debt clock. I mean, this is one of
the reasons why we know Elon went off about this
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because he did, you know, expose so much and we
still are watching per month, our debt grow in the
United States of America by roughly a hundred and forty
four billion, with a b one hundred and forty four
billion dollars a month.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well, I'm frustrated about it too, But I think what
Elon doesn't quite understand is how the government works. And
this is literally where the problem lies is. President Trump
wants to fix these things, all right. He has, you know,
the Republicans in Congress on his side, or at least
a lot of them, and then the game begins of blackmail.
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If you want me to vote for this, then here,
I've got some donor that wants a donation over here,
or I shouldn't say a donation, money spent over here.
I need to show that I'm bringing money back to
my district. I need to take care of the I
need to take care of the people that are funding
my campaign. And so it begins the you know, the
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extraction of your taxpayer dollars to go for political purposes
at the end of the day is what it amounts to.
And so they hold us all hostage and they waste
all of this money. And that's why we need to
do away with the irs and the current system that
we have and just go to you know, some kind
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of well, a more open budgetary plan. We haven't had
a budget in how many years?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And I'm in no way supporting the hypocrisy where Elon
is sitting here talking about, you know, we need to
spend less and then has a handout for ev write offs,
you know, Zach's rebates.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Right, and so anyway, and so it goes, you know,
round and round in a vicious cycle. And we need
to break that vicious cycle and get back to some
kind of fiscal sanity. Congress Woman Marjorie Taylor Green is
calling for the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, or she's calling
the humanitarian crisis in Gaza a genocide. Green wrote in
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a post on x it's the most truthful and easiest
thing to say that October seventh in Israel was horrific
and all hostages must be returned, but so is the genocide,
humanitarian crisis and starvation happening in Gaza. She appears to
be the first Republican in Congress to use the term
to describe the situation. President Trump has also said there
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was real starvation happening in Gaza and that the United
States do more to address it, including up including setting
up food centers in the gaza strip.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, he went on to say, I think everybody, unless
they're cold hearted or worse than that nuts. There's nothing
you can say other than it's terrible. He said this.
You know, with these images that continue to surface of
these children going hungry, well.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I mean, you don't want to see any children starve anywhere.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Absolutely not. And of course this is very interesting that
MTG is stepping up and standing up. I mean, she's
they're trying to paint this as if you know, she's
I mean, to me, she's speaking the same as the
President is on this with.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I think, well, I think sometimes you have to walk
a fine line because horrible things happen in war and
in conflict, and sometimes, I mean, I hate to say this,
and again I'm trying to find a way to convey
the point that if you go in and rescue people,
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then they don't sometimes do anything about their own government. Right,
So if they're if their own government, say Hamas is
starving the Palestinian people and you go feed.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Them, are which is happening.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Then Hamas gets to stay in place. Like at some
point there's got to be a breaking point, and sometimes
that breaking point is just utterly disgusting and you know, inhumane.
But I you know, I don't know what else you do.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Sometimes, well, we certainly don't want hamas you know, as
a Trump Mint talked about, I think it was yesterday,
you know, stealing the food. You know, Israel do you know,
doesn't want that obviously either. They're being criticized because they
back in March imposed an embargo on this aid going
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into Gaza, and you know, people are saying that they're
part responsible for the deteriorating conditions in Gaza. Humus is responsible.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Well, of course they are. And this is my point.
Sometimes you have to get things to the breaking point
in order to have them fixed, and unfortunately there's going
to be victims in that process.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
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This is Charleston's Morning News with Kelly and Plays.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Running down today's top stories. Welcome to a Wednesday edition
of the show. Here at six fifteen.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
New York City's mayor says he believes the gunman who
shot and killed four people at a Manhattan office building
on Monday was targeting the NFL. Shane Timurraw, a twenty
seven year old with a history of mental illness, showed
up at a Midtown high rise housing NFL headquarters slinging
an M four rifle. Mayor Eric Adams believes Tomorrow was
gunning for the league office, but took the wrong elevator bank.
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A suicide note found on Tomorrow expressed hostility towards the NFL.
The shooter played high school football in Los Angeles and
believed that CTE, the brain disease linked to too many
blows to the head, may have caused his problems. He wrote,
please study brain for CTE. I'm sorry. Mayor Eric Adams
says pieces of the semi automatic rifle used in the
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killings were bought by an associate of the suspect, and
detectives they are working to id that person.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
This makes me so mad. Honestly, we talked about this earlier.
And you know, if you are suicide, you know, why
in the world did you go and take innocent lives?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, I mean I can't answer that. And I mean
that's almost an angel old question, I know.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And the idea that you know, you have someone who is.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Aiding you, well, i'd stop short. You know, how would
you like to be that person? Help about this guy?
Had he had a concealed carry permit or whatever. They
have a permit to carry a gun whatever they call
them there, and whatever the law is there in Nevada.
He had a firearm permit. So if the government felt
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that he was qualified to carry a firearm, why wouldn't
a so called associate So his buddy maybe, you know,
bought some pieces of this gun. I mean, if you're
into guns and you hang out with people, they're like here,
try this out, or here I'll get this for you
or whatever. So I don't think we can be so
quick to point the finger at this so called associate.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well it's interesting actually that that's the way it's being framed.
An associate, right, and listen to your point that he
was a security guard. I mean, he was hired to
protect people. The whole thing is just horrifically incredibly sad
the individual last night. But I cannot help but this
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yet again with these Democrats in New York City, whether
it's Governor Kathy Hochel or you know, Eric Adams will
say something here and there where you're like, wow, you
know he's he's not as bad as you think he is.
And then he gets up here with hokeel and at
this vigil last night, and what do they do? What
do they do? Typical Democrat fashion. They turned this into
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it's about the gun, It's about the tool, it's not
about the fool. And I don't know if you caught
Eric Adams saying this, but did you know we.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Cannot respond to sisseless gun laws through visuals. It must
be responded through legislation. It is time to turn the
corner of a society where automatic weapons are as easy
to get as a cell phone.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Really, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
And you know what, he's a former police officer. He
ought to know that that's not an automatic weapon.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, and he also ought to know that it's not
easy to get an automatic weapon as a cell phone.
That is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard to
me it sounds as if, and I realize is what
you're saying, he should know better, You ought to know better.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Well, they frame it that way on purpose. They do
know better. They're playing games, so to call a semi
automatic weapon, and for those who do no, most of
our audience probably knows. So an automatic weapon, you squeeze
the trigger and it fires off every round until it's empty.
That's an automatic weapon, and they're illegal in most cases.
By the way, a semi automatic weapon fires every time
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you pull the trigger, so you don't have to, you know,
do the you know, you think of a bolt action
rifle or something where you have to every time that
you fire. Well, a semi automatic automatically spring loads and
you pull the trigger, and you can fire as fast
as you can pull the trigger. But that's far from automatic.
Just squeezing the trigger and having the gun empty itself.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well they're pulling the trigger. On politicizing this moment for
gun control and it's people control, and frankly, law abiding
citizens in New York City, a city that you have ruined,
Democrats are not the problem, you know. In fact, more
criminals would be stopped if law abiding citizens could get
their hands on firearms. Think about the amount of people
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I mean, and I have family in New York that
I mean, and they're not in the city. They're in
the more conservative part, you know, in the upstate.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Well, and again, the people that are going to break
the law are not going to pay attention to the
gun laws. So only law abiding citizens are going to
pay attention to the gun laws. And they're going to
be sitting ducks for people like this exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well, and I also think of and I'm waiting to
hear and see more about the there was a security
guard was the second person to be targeted after the
NYPD officer. The thirty seven year old expecting his third
baby on the way was taken out by this shooter,
and he was described at least the security officer in
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the building was behind his desk, under the desk, he
was cowering down. And my only thought is, my god,
he must have not had a firearm.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, maybe not. And you know, I mean, that could
have to do with the law, I could have to
do with the policy of the people who hired him, right.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I just would. I had this conversation with one of
our coworkers yesterday because we've got a guy in finance
that actually that's where he's headquartered, even though he has
an office here. And I know, you know who I'm
talking about, and he says, our building, iHeart has a
building very close to this area. And they were on lockdown.
Emails were going out. He was talking about the security
(06:20):
that we have in our building and how they shut
down elevators, locked the lockdown everything, And you know, I asked,
I'm like, you know, does our did our security have?
You know, were they armed? Because if these people weren't,
and I because I wanted to know about the laws
in New York City and so I the answer was,
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and I'm not sure if he's right or not, but
he seemed to think that they were they that they
would I would hope. So think about this, blaze. Would
you ever have a job where it was your job
to protect and serve and not carry a firearm.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But you know, that's a personal choice and whether you
want to accept that policy or not. But you know,
just because they have and I'm not saying that, he
says the Mayor Eric Adams, you know, nonsensical laws, but
those don't apply to people in security guard positions and
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things like that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I know people who've worked here in the Low Country
who as security who couldn't carry and don't.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Well, that's because of well a few different things. It's
mostly company policy, right.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I just can't imagine taking that job. I couldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
And the real issue here is, and they try to
make it about gun control again, it's mental health and
we have to find out why people are why there's
more people suffering from mental illness now, it seems, and
more violently than ever before. And that's the issue not
with the firearm. It's with the person wilding the firearm
(08:04):
and what their mental state is. Recovering this morning's top stories,
and this one happens to me about illicit drugs and
I just happened to see on the TV. We can't
hear obviously you'd be able to hear it over the microphone,
but a Berkeley County deputy collapsed after fentanyl exposure and
(08:26):
they just had the video. It was scary, and you
think about what you know, these police officers have to
deal with, and that's one worry they shouldn't have to
worry about. What they do is handling drug addicts. And
then you know you can absorb that stuff through your skin,
and that's scary. The Trump administration is going after a
substance readily available at convenience stores and vape shops across
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the US. FDA officials say they're beginning the process to
classify seven OH as an illicit drug. Seven O is
a byproduct of kretom, often referred to as gas station heroin.
Officials warnant's being marketed to children and could lead to
a dependence or addiction. During the announcement, HHS Secretary RFK
(09:11):
Junior spoke about his own heroin addiction battle. Did you
realize that RFK Junior was addicted to heroin at one point?
I did not, nor did I, but for fourteen years
when he was a younger man, he was a teenager
up into his twenty was he says, addicted to heroin?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, and I know some people who because I didn't
know a whole lot about creedom, and you know, you
can go buy some of the vape shops and you
see them in the window and lights it says we
have kretom. And there are people that I've talked to
who have massive pain. I think it was back pain.
As one specific person I'm thinking about, and they take
(09:51):
creatim every day like a tea, like drink a you know, water.
Add this powder to their water every morning and it's
like having a cup of tea at the morning.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
But where do they get the powder? I mean, is
this what they're talking about in the gas stations and.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Vape Gosh, it's you can you know, probably on your
morning commute or in your afternoon commute, you probably drive
by a vape shop that's got the kratum in the window.
You see the lights lit up.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I just assumed that it was vape and not some
sort of power that you are, a power that you may.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, it's like a powder and some people press you know,
I don't know how many different variations of creative there are,
but you know, they'll press them into like a cake
or a pill or whatever else. I mean, I've seen
different versions of this. But people use it for pain,
I know that much.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Well, I mean, look at what and that's the downside
of all of this addiction is that it's hard for
doctors now to and it's hard for a patient to
get a prescribed pain medication.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That's not addictive all that.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, no, just because the doctors are afraid they're going
to come after them because they already have in a
lot of cases, and in some cases the doctors deserved it,
but you know, they're very hesitant to give you any
opiates or anything like that for you know, just severe pain.
And so anybody who's had severe pain issues knows what
(11:20):
I'm talking about, Like they won't. You know, you can't
alleviate the pain because you can't get the medication that's
designed for it, because they're afraid that you're either going
to get addicted or they're going to get sued over
it or both. Well, we see a tariff rebate. A
Missouri congressman is introducing legislation to provide tariff rebates to
Americans and their children. Senator Josh Holly is seeking to
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give six hundred dollars rebates and said in a statement,
Americans deserve a tax rebate after four years of Biden
policies that have devastated families, savings, and livelihoods. Payments are
designed to offset higher prices resulting from tariffs. The legislation
would be modeled on the Direct Payments Congress authorized in
twenty twenty Cares Act, and payment amounts could be reduced
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depending on household income.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I still want my doage check. Now, I know that
there are a lot of people will say, oh, you
can't be a fiscal conservative if you believe in these checks,
these rebate checks back with tariffs. But because many are
saying and not Josh Holly obviously, but many are saying, oh, well,
we should use this to pay down our debt. This
is our time to pay our debt down.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, many are saying that, I mean, I disagree with
these rebates simply because it's our money to begin with.
Stop taking so much of it. How about that instead
of like when people start hurting, oh here, we're going
to here the government, the politicians are going to come
to your rescue and give you some of your money.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Better, how about some fiscal restraint exactly?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
How about wasting our money? How about stop wasting our
money and taking so much of it in the first place.
How about that? That sounds like a better plan to me.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, and this is what DOJE expose, and I think
probably to a level with which none of us could
have ever imagined.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, I don't know about you know, billions, I think
we could imagine that.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I can't. I can't imagine that billions of my tax
dollars were going to trans ballets and Ireland.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I mean, you had no idea that that was going on.
The government was just wasting.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Money with which I could have never imagined. Oh, come on,
what doage expose in US AID money? And where it
was going you could I could not have imagined that
it was going to you know, uh, buy condoms in
parts of Africa and some other things. I mean some
of it, yes, but others no. It's infuriating.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well, I mean, you know, if.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
To the level with which it was being spent, I'm.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Not being denigrating to you, but if you're paying attention,
you know that government's been wasting money on all kinds
of ridiculous things for years and years and years of course,
and that's why everybody was surprised that they only found
one hundred and eighty billion or whatever. Remember it started
at two trillion, went to a trillion on the estimates
of what they were going to find, and then ended
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up being one hundred and eighty billion dollars. And everybody's like, well,
maybe the government's more efficient than we thought. Ha. You know,
they just waste money left and right, and like I said,
and even in this case, take your money and then say, oh,
you're hurting here, have a little bit of your money back.
Were aren't we heroes? So I mean to your point,
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they've been, you know. And this goes even domestically, all
the stories about the remember the thousand dollars toilet seats
at the Department of Defense and all of these things.
So they're wasting it domestically, They're wasting it on stupid programs,
like you said, all around the world. And what is
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the need for that for somebody to suffer to have
less money to care for their family here so we
can fund these woke di initiatives literally all the way
around the world.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
What's infuriating to me is the fact that our and
when we talked about fiscal restraint from our lawmakers in
which they don't seem to really care. And there's I mean,
you know, you can point on the Republican side of
that is our debt and how it grows. I was
looking at the numbers and it is just I mean,
there's a debt clock. I mean, this is one of
the reasons why we know Elon went off about this
(15:32):
because he did, you know, expose so much and we
still are watching per month, our debt grow in the
United States of America by roughly a hundred and forty
four billion, with a b one hundred and forty four
billion dollars a month.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well, I'm frustrated about it too, But I think what
Elon doesn't quite understand is how the government works. And
this is literally where the problem lies is. President Trump
wants to fix these things, all right. He has, you know,
the Republicans in Congress on his side, or at least
a lot of them, and then the game begins of blackmail.
(16:09):
If you want me to vote for this, then here,
I've got some donor that wants a donation over here,
or I shouldn't say a donation, money spent over here.
I need to show that I'm bringing money back to
my district. I need to take care of the I
need to take care of the people that are funding
my campaign. And so it begins the you know, the
(16:31):
extraction of your taxpayer dollars to go for political purposes
at the end of the day is what it amounts to.
And so they hold us all hostage and they waste
all of this money. And that's why we need to
do away with the irs and the current system that
we have and just go to you know, some kind
(16:52):
of well, a more open budgetary plan. We haven't had
a budget in how many years?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And I'm in no way supporting the hypocrisy where Elon
is sitting here talking about, you know, we need to
spend less and then has a handout for ev write offs,
you know, Zach's rebates.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Right, and so anyway, and so it goes, you know,
round and round in a vicious cycle. And we need
to break that vicious cycle and get back to some
kind of fiscal sanity. Congress Woman Marjorie Taylor Green is
calling for the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, or she's calling
the humanitarian crisis in Gaza a genocide. Green wrote in
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a post on x it's the most truthful and easiest
thing to say that October seventh in Israel was horrific
and all hostages must be returned, but so is the genocide,
humanitarian crisis and starvation happening in Gaza. She appears to
be the first Republican in Congress to use the term
to describe the situation. President Trump has also said there
(17:56):
was real starvation happening in Gaza and that the United
States do more to address it, including up including setting
up food centers in the gaza strip.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, he went on to say, I think everybody, unless
they're cold hearted or worse than that nuts. There's nothing
you can say other than it's terrible. He said this.
You know, with these images that continue to surface of
these children going hungry, well.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I mean, you don't want to see any children starve anywhere.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Absolutely not. And of course this is very interesting that
MTG is stepping up and standing up. I mean, she's
they're trying to paint this as if you know, she's
I mean, to me, she's speaking the same as the
President is on this with.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I think, well, I think sometimes you have to walk
a fine line because horrible things happen in war and
in conflict, and sometimes, I mean, I hate to say this,
and again I'm trying to find a way to convey
the point that if you go in and rescue people,
(19:03):
then they don't sometimes do anything about their own government. Right,
So if they're if their own government, say Hamas is
starving the Palestinian people and you go feed.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Them, are which is happening.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Then Hamas gets to stay in place. Like at some
point there's got to be a breaking point, and sometimes
that breaking point is just utterly disgusting and you know, inhumane.
But I you know, I don't know what else you do.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Sometimes, well, we certainly don't want hamas you know, as
a Trump Mint talked about, I think it was yesterday,
you know, stealing the food. You know, Israel do you know,
doesn't want that obviously either. They're being criticized because they
back in March imposed an embargo on this aid going
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into Gaza, and you know, people are saying that they're
part responsible for the deteriorating conditions in Gaza. Humus is responsible.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Well, of course they are. And this is my point.
Sometimes you have to get things to the breaking point
in order to have them fixed, and unfortunately there's going
to be victims in that process.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
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