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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You're listening to Charleston's Morning News on ninety four to
three WUSC. Now back to Kelly and Blaze. Former President
Biden says he made every decision on his own when
defending his use of autopen while in office. Biden made
the comments in an interview with The New York Times.
During his final weeks as president, grand clemency and pardoned
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over fifteen hundred people. The Times reports Biden did not
individually approve each name for the categorical pardons that applied
to large numbers of people. Comes after President Trump directed
Attorney General Pam Bondi in June to investigate the use
of autopen by Biden and to see if it was
connected with a decline in his mental state.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
This is unless there are people who are willing, who
are hall before Congress and are willing to admit something
that they were a part of that they could be
charged possibly in some way. Do you really belie we're
going to get to the you know, be able to
pull back a curtain to know. I want to know.
I want to know who was running our country. I'm
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just curious how we get there to the answers.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I don't think we're going to get you know, the
true answers.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I mean I wish that that were different. I truly do,
because this is the biggest scandal and think about it,
and one of the biggest scandals in political history, certainly
in my lifetime. If we had someone else running the
country and it wasn't our president.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Well Biden says he made every decision.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well what do we think he's going to say, Well.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
What's the alternative? I mean, are you going to go
Who's going to come out and say, no, Biden was
not running the country.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
This is what I'm saying. I was you would, yeah,
you would have Who's going to do that? Doesn't it
sound like sometimes it sounds like a movie plot of
some kind, but this was potentially real life in unless
there are people willing to flip, you know, as they'd
say in the business.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, I don't know who's going to step forward and
say that they that Biden wasn't running the country that
they were, or who's going to point the finger at
somebody else?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Because if let's you know, we have to talk in
scenarios here. If he wasn't running the country, the people
who were a person who was a very powerful person
you're assuming at some low level or whatever is going
to you know, step up and turn against them if
you will.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
No, I'm not assuming anything. Like I said, I don't
think we're going to get any truth.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Out of this. Well, there's people in Congress, think goodness,
pushing to do so, and I want them to, and
many of the American people want that. I do want answers.
I just you know, we've been down this road before
when it comes to corrupt swampy d C. I mean, frankly,
it's one of the reasons why we have you know,
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President Trump two point zero.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well, you know, to Trump's point, he says, you know,
you use the auto when you're answering letters and things
like that. He said, there's a lot of young people
that write letters, classrooms and things like that, and so on,
these unofficial correspondence. That's what you use the autopen for.
He said, you don't use it to sign major legislation
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or sign bills into law or whatever it may be.
And then these pardons, fifteen hundred of them, they use
the autopen on and Biden's chief of staff is like, yes,
I approve that, well, okay, but beyond that, who's going
to come out and say, well, Biden was not in
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possession of his faculties, and he used the autopen because
we wanted him to, because we wanted these things done,
not Biden. I mean, in what scenario is that going
to happen?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Un Let's say someone thinks that they're going to get
you know, if they're in some position that they were
not able to be held criminally for their part in it,
then maybe somebody who could in some way expose this
while making a lot of money off of it. That
that's the only way I see that happening. I don't
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know how pinning the book.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Somebody writes a book, well, there's plenty of people that
write books and say things, but that doesn't mean it
ends up in criminal charges.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Most of what I'm saying, if they are able to
get away with being honest and telling the truth but
then making money off of it and not facing any consequences.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Criminally, well I don't know how that would work.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I think we're going to find out.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I think we're not going to find anything out.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I think someone's going to pin a book. There's too
many people involved. It's a corruption to the level with
which we are talking about. Come on. Somebody's going to
talk eventually.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
There's all kinds of books. They're talking already.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Smoking gun, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And how do you determine the smoking gun? And then
we heard all this build up a out Jeffrey Epstein,
and we'll hear all this build up about Biden. And
then you know what's going to happen at the end
of the day.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Nothing and something's going to you know, make a bunch
of money.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
The value of bitcoin is surging is the House prepares
to take up crypto legislation this week. The price of
one bitcoin rose to one hundred and twenty two thousand
dollars yesterday morning and later fell to around one hundred
and nineteen thousand, seven hundred dollars. Bitcoin has been setting
new records over the past week, with the House poised
to move the Genius Act, the Digital Asset Market Clarity Act,
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and the Anti CBDC Surveillance State Act. The Senate Banking
Digital Asset Subcommittee chair told the Hell she believes senators
will release a discussion draft of market structure legislation this
week and they're now aiming to pass the crypto bill
by the end of September.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Man why did I jump into crypto years ago. Is
it too late for me now that when crypto coin
is going for one hundred twenty thousand dollars?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I also am curious. You know, when Congress gets involved
in financial matters, it I tend to pause. You know,
when the government we'ren't from the government, we're here to help.
It's like, oh, wait a minute. Usually you're here to
get your pause on my cash.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well, this is about, you know, bringing crypto into the mainstream.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Well, how many people don't know anything about crypto, not
invested in crypto, don't want to be invested in crypto.
I mean, I this is going to be an interesting transition.
I guess that's the best way I could describe it.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I don't know if it's going to be a transition
or not.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Possible digital currency if you're someone who likes to pay
in cash and may feel like a dinosaur already. And
then there was COVID.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
When I'm talking about replacing the current system with crypto,
they're just talking about adding crypto to the current system.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, to start, right, this is where people have fears
of a cash list society, and you know you'll get
all kinds of pushback. Listen, if you've got crypto out
there to spend and want to be a part of
it the process and spending your coins, then I understand that.
But the opposite concern and fear for many people is
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that they'll be forced into a digital dollar in currency
and not be able to spend cash.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Well without crypto in the in the current system already
that we've gone cash list, there's a lot of businesses
that won't take cash.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, to me, I thought that was illegal under our constitution,
that you literally had to be able you had to
take cash.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
No, what are you looking at me?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Like sure about that?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Positive?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Isn't it literally written on our money? I mean it's
a I know that there's at.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Least you do not have to take cash.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Well, there you go. That's concerning to me. If I
were a business owner who wouldn't take cash from someone, well.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Think about it. There's safety concerns, there's book keeping concerns,
there's all kinds of concerns about taking cash. Makes it
a whole lot easier if you're like, no cash, everything's electronic,
everything gets tracked, everything's there. Nobody is going to come
in guns of blasting to steal your your books, of
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your electronic transactions.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
If I'm a business owner, I'm always going to take cash.
If someone wants to spend money with me, I'm going
to take it. And maybe it would say that until digital,
then I would I would definitely pivot and make sure
that they were included. But I wouldn't want it to
the point of excluding other people. That's all all I'm saying.
Think about with the lights go out, so everything's digital,
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now we have no way of spending any money.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Well, you already see where you know, when the power
goes out. In some of these stories, yeah, they stop
sales because they don't have any way to track the
inventory or anything.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
To me, that's a safety concern. I would want to
in any kind of emergency be able to, you know,
help people sell things, continue to move what's needed through.
So there are a lot of people who will not
adopt a digital way of life. We've talked about this before.
My God, think about our aging population. Who you know,
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they're still writing checks at the publics.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Well, you don't necessarily have to adopt, you know, how
often do you use your debit card? Isn't that a
lot easier than paying cash?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, yeah, I mean you're talking to someone who you know.
I get it. I certainly use a debit card often.
I rarely have cash, but I always make sure to
have some.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, there you go. I mean, well, and why do
you do that?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Well? Because I always have backups to my backups is
how I was raised.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
No, I'm saying, why do you use your debit card
all the time? Why don't you just use cash?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Well, I'm old enough to remember when Dave Ramsey had
envelopes of cash, and this is for some people. How
you you know, save you from yourself get out of debt.
I mean we could go down a whole laundry list
of reasons and ways why. But I understand your safety
aspect of that. It's not safe to walk around with
hundreds or thousands of dollars of cash in your pocket.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Well, it's not safe, it's inefficient, and it's an efficient
on many different levels. So I mean, I understand, But
you know, some businesses have already adopted that model because
that just fits their business model a whole lot better
and more efficiently.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Where are we with the Epstein saga?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
The Justice Department is asking the Supreme Court to reject
an appeal from Julaane Maxwell, a former associate of the
late sex criminal Jeffrey Epstein. Maxwell is serving a twenty
year sentence for helping Epstein sexually abuse underage girls. She
wants the court to take another look at her case,
arguing that Epstein non prosecution agreement in two thousand and
seven included co conspirators and should have also protected her
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from prosecution. Maxwell's lawyer said he thinks the federal government
is breaking its word and that given the current talk
around the so called Epstein Epstein files about who is
or isn't being prosecuted, it's unfair that Maxwell remains in prisonis.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Slaying Gislaine whatever. The response to this is quite fiery.
I mean, you got some people saying, let her get
before Congress and spill her tea. Other people are like,
she needs that, she's just looking for get out of
jail card and she needs to remain behind bars because
she's guilty of Hello, there's evidence somewhere. We're still, of
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course waiting to see i e. The public on what
that evidence may have been. With regards to the Epstein, Well,
we know what.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
The evidence is in her case. I mean, she was
tried and convicted on it.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Well, my point is, do you give her this push
and opportunity now that they're pushing it all the way
up to the Supreme Court and she says, I'll go
before Congress. There's a part of mini you know, make
America grit to get supporters who want to you know,
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they're torn in that they don't want her to get
out of jail on things she's been you know, convicted of.
But if she actually spills tea, it'll be for some plea,
you know, for her to be free. Well rhymes so
much there.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I mean with that, I don't know how that would work.
She's already been convicted and she's in jail. See, don't
go after the fact and say, okay, I'm going to
spill my guts here.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, I mean, this is this is what's being so change.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
My sentence put out by who not her. She's looking
to just you know, challenge the sentence in the first place,
arguing that Epstein had a deal with the government that
should have protected her from prosecution.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
But it didn't. And she's behind bars since twenty twenty two,
and she's appealing this all the way to the Supreme
Court of the United states her criminal conviction for sex trafficking.
I mean, she's continued to say that she's been innocent
of all of this. And so you've got my god,
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Pam Bondi, the usag I mean, there's so much unravel here.
They're pushing, they're using all of this to push her
case up to the Supreme Court. The Department of Justice
has I think it was until yesterday or today to
appeal to this decision by her attorneys to do this,
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they have to respond to this case, and this is
under look at the pressure Pam Bondi is under her
right now with the Department of Justice in the Epstein files.
And of course you have Dan Bongino over here. He
was at work yesterday, by the way, everybody was at
his desk with apparently a smile on his face.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah. But this particular case with Julane Maxwell is arguing
that Jeffrey Epstein had a non prosecution agreement dating back
to two thousand and seven that included co conspirators and
so that she was wrongfully convicted. Right.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I understand that this comes amidst the entire accusations of
a potential cover up with Bondie appearing. I mean she's
been before Congress. We now see that the case is closed.
There's nothing to see here. We're not prosecuting anybody that's
sparked all kinds of drama. We'll just say quickly, and
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this is going to be interesting to me to see
how this plays out. This could really lean in her favor.
We could see her potentially spilling tea. We could maybe
even see her, you know, get out of jail.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
But I don't know about the potentially spilling tea part.
I think that speculation on other people's parts. This is
just literally a mechanical kind of, uh, you know, a
plea to the court to say, look, the government's not
keeping up. They're not sticking to their word that you know,
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this non prosecution agreement that they had in place should
have covered her too, and that it didn't and so
and that was wrong, and so they want to overturn
the case on that, not her getting up in spilling
her guts and all of these things. She had her
chance to do that, but she didn't. So this is
more of a you know, mechanics within the law kind
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of thing. If you ask me, so, I you know,
I don't what's the scenario where she gets up there
and spills her guts.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Now, well, it depends, it depends on how this administration,
I think, and and who is surrounding this president decides
to act on all of the current mounting pressures over
Jeffrey Epstein, and whether it's client list or evidence or
whatever else shining some light on that. I think all
of that's going to come into play. And good news
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this morning for SpaceX, just completing another successful mission.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Spacecraft with four astronauts on board, is successfully splashed down
off the coast of San Diego. The Dragon Capsule returned
to Earth at two thirty one am this morning. The
craft to undocked from the International Space Station on Monday morning,
taking a twenty two and a half hour journey back
to Earth Axium. Mission four started on June twenty fifth.
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The astronauts were on the International Space Station for about
eighteen days. The capsule also return with more than five
hundred and eighty pounds of cargo, including data from dozens
of experiments that they've conducted.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well, it's nice to hear positive news for Elon in space.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, no anti semitic Elmo blurting out from the Dragon capsule.
Of course, we're talking about croc Elon's you know, AI
said a bunch of anti Semitic things, brought up Adolf
Hitler and some other ridiculous things. And you know, he's
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announced he's starting a third party and he's going to
primary Republican senators. He's interfered with Trump, his Tesla motor
company is being fin taking a dive. Well no, there's
stock prices, you know, in the toilet. So anyway, he
has some good news for Elon for a change this morning.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Of course he's being blamed too on Elmo's account on
X being hacked and spewing anti Semitic comments as well,
because he owns X and this isn't the first time,
and it came on the heels of what you just
mentioned with GROC, which is his AI platform that he's created,
you know, the rival chat GPT and others. Did you
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catch the sit down, and of course we know Gavin
newso gruesome newsom from Cammie Fournia last week stumping in
South Carolina, he had to sit down with Sean Ryan.
That podcast is on the iHeart app and free to
download today, where he was asked about Elon's third party
run and he's like well, I'm all, I'm all for it,
But doesn't this guy have a you know, other things
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the other message he needs to clean up and deal
with and focus on. And all I can think is,
of course he's for it. Here's a guy who's likely
going to run for president, probably for the Democrats, and
he's going to want votes siphoned away from Republicans, which
is exactly what Elon's America Party would do.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Well. He says with the American Party though, that they're
not going to put up a challenger for president. This
is simply too primary key Republicans that he doesn't like
voted for this big beautiful bill.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, well, still we'll siphon votes away from uh, you know,
we'll actually be pro Democrat. It will potentially siphon away
votes from Republicans that have need those few percentage points.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I mean it depends. That is, if he does create
a whole new party and they find people to run
on this other party as a third party. You know,
right now he says he's going to primary these guys.
That has no danger at all of siphoning off Democratic votes.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Depends because we're in a state who does we have
open primaries in South Carolina Democrats come in and they
make votes for people who they think will be the
weakest candidate to run their candidate against.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So we can well, that's not siphoning off votes, Sure
it is. That's playing a strategy. It's not siphoning off votes.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Sure it is if you're in a if you're running
a candidate a state on a third party who has
open primaries.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I just said, but what he has said is that
he's going to primary these people. And so I can't
imagine that he could put something together so fast where
he has a third party with the whole slew of
candidates and they're all on the ballot and they're running
against the Democrat and the Republican. That's the only way
it could siphon off Democratic votes. If he's just simply
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primarying the Republicans that he disagrees with, that doesn't siphon
off any Democrat votes at all. You're going to vote
for one or the other in the Republican primary, and
in this state, maybe some Democrats are going to be
voting in there too, But it's not siphoning anything off.
So you know, I don't know how all this is
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going to work out. And of course, people are not
happy with his choice to do that, but he's an
American citizen. He has the right to do what he wants.
I guess we.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Shall see how it all plays out, but it's definitely
a power planet, definitely siphons votes with regards to who
is the more popular candidate.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Again, it depends on how that's structured. If it truly
is its own third party and they're challenging and they're
on the ballot against a Republican and a Democrat, then
it could siphon votes off. But the way he's explained
it so far, he's just saying he's going to primary
these guys, which means they're going to have a challenger
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You're listening to Charleston's Morning News on ninety four to
three WUSC. Now back to Kelly and Blaze. Former President
Biden says he made every decision on his own when
defending his use of autopen while in office. Biden made
the comments in an interview with The New York Times.
During his final weeks as president, grand clemency and pardoned
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over fifteen hundred people. The Times reports Biden did not
individually approve each name for the categorical pardons that applied
to large numbers of people. Comes after President Trump directed
Attorney General Pam Bondi in June to investigate the use
of autopen by Biden and to see if it was
connected with a decline in his mental state.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
This is unless there are people who are willing, who
are hall before Congress and are willing to admit something
that they were a part of that they could be
charged possibly in some way. Do you really belie we're
going to get to the you know, be able to
pull back a curtain to know. I want to know.
I want to know who was running our country. I'm
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just curious how we get there to the answers.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I don't think we're going to get you know, the
true answers.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I mean I wish that that were different. I truly do,
because this is the biggest scandal and think about it,
and one of the biggest scandals in political history, certainly
in my lifetime. If we had someone else running the
country and it wasn't our president.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Well Biden says he made every decision.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well what do we think he's going to say, Well.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
What's the alternative? I mean, are you going to go
Who's going to come out and say, no, Biden was
not running the country.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
This is what I'm saying. I was you would, yeah,
you would have Who's going to do that? Doesn't it
sound like sometimes it sounds like a movie plot of
some kind, but this was potentially real life in unless
there are people willing to flip, you know, as they'd
say in the business.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, I don't know who's going to step forward and
say that they that Biden wasn't running the country that
they were, or who's going to point the finger at
somebody else?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Because if let's you know, we have to talk in
scenarios here. If he wasn't running the country, the people
who were a person who was a very powerful person
you're assuming at some low level or whatever is going
to you know, step up and turn against them if
you will.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
No, I'm not assuming anything. Like I said, I don't
think we're going to get any truth.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Out of this. Well, there's people in Congress, think goodness,
pushing to do so, and I want them to, and
many of the American people want that. I do want answers.
I just you know, we've been down this road before
when it comes to corrupt swampy d C. I mean, frankly,
it's one of the reasons why we have you know,
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President Trump two point zero.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well, you know, to Trump's point, he says, you know,
you use the auto when you're answering letters and things
like that. He said, there's a lot of young people
that write letters, classrooms and things like that, and so on,
these unofficial correspondence. That's what you use the autopen for.
He said, you don't use it to sign major legislation
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or sign bills into law or whatever it may be.
And then these pardons, fifteen hundred of them, they use
the autopen on and Biden's chief of staff is like, yes,
I approve that, well, okay, but beyond that, who's going
to come out and say, well, Biden was not in
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possession of his faculties, and he used the autopen because
we wanted him to, because we wanted these things done,
not Biden. I mean, in what scenario is that going
to happen?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Un Let's say someone thinks that they're going to get
you know, if they're in some position that they were
not able to be held criminally for their part in it,
then maybe somebody who could in some way expose this
while making a lot of money off of it. That
that's the only way I see that happening. I don't
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know how pinning the book.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Somebody writes a book, well, there's plenty of people that
write books and say things, but that doesn't mean it
ends up in criminal charges.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Most of what I'm saying, if they are able to
get away with being honest and telling the truth but
then making money off of it and not facing any consequences.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Criminally, well I don't know how that would work.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I think we're going to find out.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I think we're not going to find anything out.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I think someone's going to pin a book. There's too
many people involved. It's a corruption to the level with
which we are talking about. Come on. Somebody's going to
talk eventually.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
There's all kinds of books. They're talking already.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Smoking gun, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And how do you determine the smoking gun? And then
we heard all this build up a out Jeffrey Epstein,
and we'll hear all this build up about Biden. And
then you know what's going to happen at the end
of the day.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Nothing and something's going to you know, make a bunch
of money.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
The value of bitcoin is surging is the House prepares
to take up crypto legislation this week. The price of
one bitcoin rose to one hundred and twenty two thousand
dollars yesterday morning and later fell to around one hundred
and nineteen thousand, seven hundred dollars. Bitcoin has been setting
new records over the past week, with the House poised
to move the Genius Act, the Digital Asset Market Clarity Act,
(05:34):
and the Anti CBDC Surveillance State Act. The Senate Banking
Digital Asset Subcommittee chair told the Hell she believes senators
will release a discussion draft of market structure legislation this
week and they're now aiming to pass the crypto bill
by the end of September.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Man why did I jump into crypto years ago. Is
it too late for me now that when crypto coin
is going for one hundred twenty thousand dollars?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I also am curious. You know, when Congress gets involved
in financial matters, it I tend to pause. You know,
when the government we'ren't from the government, we're here to help.
It's like, oh, wait a minute. Usually you're here to
get your pause on my cash.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well, this is about, you know, bringing crypto into the mainstream.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Well, how many people don't know anything about crypto, not
invested in crypto, don't want to be invested in crypto.
I mean, I this is going to be an interesting transition.
I guess that's the best way I could describe it.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I don't know if it's going to be a transition
or not.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Possible digital currency if you're someone who likes to pay
in cash and may feel like a dinosaur already. And
then there was COVID.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
When I'm talking about replacing the current system with crypto,
they're just talking about adding crypto to the current system.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, to start, right, this is where people have fears
of a cash list society, and you know you'll get
all kinds of pushback. Listen, if you've got crypto out
there to spend and want to be a part of
it the process and spending your coins, then I understand that.
But the opposite concern and fear for many people is
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that they'll be forced into a digital dollar in currency
and not be able to spend cash.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Well without crypto in the in the current system already
that we've gone cash list, there's a lot of businesses
that won't take cash.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, to me, I thought that was illegal under our constitution,
that you literally had to be able you had to
take cash.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
No, what are you looking at me?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Like sure about that?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Positive?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Isn't it literally written on our money? I mean it's
a I know that there's at.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Least you do not have to take cash.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Well, there you go. That's concerning to me. If I
were a business owner who wouldn't take cash from someone, well.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Think about it. There's safety concerns, there's book keeping concerns,
there's all kinds of concerns about taking cash. Makes it
a whole lot easier if you're like, no cash, everything's electronic,
everything gets tracked, everything's there. Nobody is going to come
in guns of blasting to steal your your books, of
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your electronic transactions.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
If I'm a business owner, I'm always going to take cash.
If someone wants to spend money with me, I'm going
to take it. And maybe it would say that until digital,
then I would I would definitely pivot and make sure
that they were included. But I wouldn't want it to
the point of excluding other people. That's all all I'm saying.
Think about with the lights go out, so everything's digital,
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now we have no way of spending any money.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Well, you already see where you know, when the power
goes out. In some of these stories, yeah, they stop
sales because they don't have any way to track the
inventory or anything.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
To me, that's a safety concern. I would want to
in any kind of emergency be able to, you know,
help people sell things, continue to move what's needed through.
So there are a lot of people who will not
adopt a digital way of life. We've talked about this before.
My God, think about our aging population. Who you know,
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they're still writing checks at the publics.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Well, you don't necessarily have to adopt, you know, how
often do you use your debit card? Isn't that a
lot easier than paying cash?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, yeah, I mean you're talking to someone who you know.
I get it. I certainly use a debit card often.
I rarely have cash, but I always make sure to
have some.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, there you go. I mean, well, and why do
you do that?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Well? Because I always have backups to my backups is
how I was raised.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
No, I'm saying, why do you use your debit card
all the time? Why don't you just use cash?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Well, I'm old enough to remember when Dave Ramsey had
envelopes of cash, and this is for some people. How
you you know, save you from yourself get out of debt.
I mean we could go down a whole laundry list
of reasons and ways why. But I understand your safety
aspect of that. It's not safe to walk around with
hundreds or thousands of dollars of cash in your pocket.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Well, it's not safe, it's inefficient, and it's an efficient
on many different levels. So I mean, I understand, But
you know, some businesses have already adopted that model because
that just fits their business model a whole lot better
and more efficiently.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Where are we with the Epstein saga?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
The Justice Department is asking the Supreme Court to reject
an appeal from Julaane Maxwell, a former associate of the
late sex criminal Jeffrey Epstein. Maxwell is serving a twenty
year sentence for helping Epstein sexually abuse underage girls. She
wants the court to take another look at her case,
arguing that Epstein non prosecution agreement in two thousand and
seven included co conspirators and should have also protected her
(11:06):
from prosecution. Maxwell's lawyer said he thinks the federal government
is breaking its word and that given the current talk
around the so called Epstein Epstein files about who is
or isn't being prosecuted, it's unfair that Maxwell remains in prisonis.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Slaying Gislaine whatever. The response to this is quite fiery.
I mean, you got some people saying, let her get
before Congress and spill her tea. Other people are like,
she needs that, she's just looking for get out of
jail card and she needs to remain behind bars because
she's guilty of Hello, there's evidence somewhere. We're still, of
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course waiting to see i e. The public on what
that evidence may have been. With regards to the Epstein, Well,
we know what.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
The evidence is in her case. I mean, she was
tried and convicted on it.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Well, my point is, do you give her this push
and opportunity now that they're pushing it all the way
up to the Supreme Court and she says, I'll go
before Congress. There's a part of mini you know, make
America grit to get supporters who want to you know,
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they're torn in that they don't want her to get
out of jail on things she's been you know, convicted of.
But if she actually spills tea, it'll be for some plea,
you know, for her to be free. Well rhymes so
much there.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I mean with that, I don't know how that would work.
She's already been convicted and she's in jail. See, don't
go after the fact and say, okay, I'm going to
spill my guts here.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, I mean, this is this is what's being so change.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
My sentence put out by who not her. She's looking
to just you know, challenge the sentence in the first place,
arguing that Epstein had a deal with the government that
should have protected her from prosecution.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
But it didn't. And she's behind bars since twenty twenty two,
and she's appealing this all the way to the Supreme
Court of the United states her criminal conviction for sex trafficking.
I mean, she's continued to say that she's been innocent
of all of this. And so you've got my god,
(13:29):
Pam Bondi, the usag I mean, there's so much unravel here.
They're pushing, they're using all of this to push her
case up to the Supreme Court. The Department of Justice
has I think it was until yesterday or today to
appeal to this decision by her attorneys to do this,
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they have to respond to this case, and this is
under look at the pressure Pam Bondi is under her
right now with the Department of Justice in the Epstein files.
And of course you have Dan Bongino over here. He
was at work yesterday, by the way, everybody was at
his desk with apparently a smile on his face.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah. But this particular case with Julane Maxwell is arguing
that Jeffrey Epstein had a non prosecution agreement dating back
to two thousand and seven that included co conspirators and
so that she was wrongfully convicted. Right.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I understand that this comes amidst the entire accusations of
a potential cover up with Bondie appearing. I mean she's
been before Congress. We now see that the case is closed.
There's nothing to see here. We're not prosecuting anybody that's
sparked all kinds of drama. We'll just say quickly, and
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this is going to be interesting to me to see
how this plays out. This could really lean in her favor.
We could see her potentially spilling tea. We could maybe
even see her, you know, get out of jail.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
But I don't know about the potentially spilling tea part.
I think that speculation on other people's parts. This is
just literally a mechanical kind of, uh, you know, a
plea to the court to say, look, the government's not
keeping up. They're not sticking to their word that you know,
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this non prosecution agreement that they had in place should
have covered her too, and that it didn't and so
and that was wrong, and so they want to overturn
the case on that, not her getting up in spilling
her guts and all of these things. She had her
chance to do that, but she didn't. So this is
more of a you know, mechanics within the law kind
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of thing. If you ask me, so, I you know,
I don't what's the scenario where she gets up there
and spills her guts.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Now, well, it depends, it depends on how this administration,
I think, and and who is surrounding this president decides
to act on all of the current mounting pressures over
Jeffrey Epstein, and whether it's client list or evidence or
whatever else shining some light on that. I think all
of that's going to come into play. And good news
(16:16):
this morning for SpaceX, just completing another successful mission.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Spacecraft with four astronauts on board, is successfully splashed down
off the coast of San Diego. The Dragon Capsule returned
to Earth at two thirty one am this morning. The
craft to undocked from the International Space Station on Monday morning,
taking a twenty two and a half hour journey back
to Earth Axium. Mission four started on June twenty fifth.
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The astronauts were on the International Space Station for about
eighteen days. The capsule also return with more than five
hundred and eighty pounds of cargo, including data from dozens
of experiments that they've conducted.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well, it's nice to hear positive news for Elon in space.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, no anti semitic Elmo blurting out from the Dragon capsule.
Of course, we're talking about croc Elon's you know, AI
said a bunch of anti Semitic things, brought up Adolf
Hitler and some other ridiculous things. And you know, he's
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announced he's starting a third party and he's going to
primary Republican senators. He's interfered with Trump, his Tesla motor
company is being fin taking a dive. Well no, there's
stock prices, you know, in the toilet. So anyway, he
has some good news for Elon for a change this morning.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Of course he's being blamed too on Elmo's account on
X being hacked and spewing anti Semitic comments as well,
because he owns X and this isn't the first time,
and it came on the heels of what you just
mentioned with GROC, which is his AI platform that he's created,
you know, the rival chat GPT and others. Did you
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catch the sit down, and of course we know Gavin
newso gruesome newsom from Cammie Fournia last week stumping in
South Carolina, he had to sit down with Sean Ryan.
That podcast is on the iHeart app and free to
download today, where he was asked about Elon's third party
run and he's like well, I'm all, I'm all for it,
But doesn't this guy have a you know, other things
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the other message he needs to clean up and deal
with and focus on. And all I can think is,
of course he's for it. Here's a guy who's likely
going to run for president, probably for the Democrats, and
he's going to want votes siphoned away from Republicans, which
is exactly what Elon's America Party would do.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Well. He says with the American Party though, that they're
not going to put up a challenger for president. This
is simply too primary key Republicans that he doesn't like
voted for this big beautiful bill.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, well, still we'll siphon votes away from uh, you know,
we'll actually be pro Democrat. It will potentially siphon away
votes from Republicans that have need those few percentage points.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I mean it depends. That is, if he does create
a whole new party and they find people to run
on this other party as a third party. You know,
right now he says he's going to primary these guys.
That has no danger at all of siphoning off Democratic votes.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Depends because we're in a state who does we have
open primaries in South Carolina Democrats come in and they
make votes for people who they think will be the
weakest candidate to run their candidate against.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So we can well, that's not siphoning off votes, Sure
it is. That's playing a strategy. It's not siphoning off votes.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Sure it is if you're in a if you're running
a candidate a state on a third party who has
open primaries.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I just said, but what he has said is that
he's going to primary these people. And so I can't
imagine that he could put something together so fast where
he has a third party with the whole slew of
candidates and they're all on the ballot and they're running
against the Democrat and the Republican. That's the only way
it could siphon off Democratic votes. If he's just simply
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primarying the Republicans that he disagrees with, that doesn't siphon
off any Democrat votes at all. You're going to vote
for one or the other in the Republican primary, and
in this state, maybe some Democrats are going to be
voting in there too, But it's not siphoning anything off.
So you know, I don't know how all this is
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going to work out. And of course, people are not
happy with his choice to do that, but he's an
American citizen. He has the right to do what he wants.
I guess we.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Shall see how it all plays out, but it's definitely
a power planet, definitely siphons votes with regards to who
is the more popular candidate.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Again, it depends on how that's structured. If it truly
is its own third party and they're challenging and they're
on the ballot against a Republican and a Democrat, then
it could siphon votes off. But the way he's explained
it so far, he's just saying he's going to primary
these guys, which means they're going to have a challenger
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