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July 10, 2025 • 24 mins
We Should Refer To It As Blackmail List, Not Client List
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Traffic and weather every ten minutes. This is Charleston's Morning
News with Kelly and Blaze on ninety four to three WSC.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Flooding, rains, thunderstorms, lightning. Not exactly on the Bingo card
for me, at least on a Thursday morning commute. We'll
check that what's ahead of you on the roadways. So
how it's a forecast. We'll look as we head into
the weekend. Here just ahead on nighty four to three WSC.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Jeffrey Epstein's brothers speaking up. Jeffrey Epstein's brother Mark has
criticized FBI Director Cash Pattel for asserting that Epstein's death
was a suicide. He said that Patel is not a
forensic pathologist and questioned his qualifications. Epstein highlighted the involvement
of two medical examiners, doctor Christin Roman and doctor Michael Baden,

(00:50):
who are unable to definitively determine the cause of Jeffrey's death,
suggesting it pointed more towards homicide. The Department of Justice
released a memos stating that there was no evidence that
Jeffrey Epstein was killed by someone else in prison. The
investigation also found that there is no evidence that Epstein
had a client list.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Ah, this is a pr nightmare. This is an absolute
fumble of this administration. You have people like even Megan
Kelly calling this the end of Pam Bondi's career.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
You have whipped up.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
So much and then to turn around and quickly just
say nothing to see here, and to do it with
such ayre. I mean, I don't know if it's just
a lack of communication from the people surrounding Trump to Trump,
but for him to say.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
We're still talking about this creep.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, and it's your administration in part that whipped this
whole thing up.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Well, this is true, and I think that was a misstep.
But at the same time, and plus it creates all
of these conspiracy theories and everything. You know, what if
they murdered Jeffrey Epstein and they're hiding the client list,
then explain Jzayn Maxwell and why she's still alive and

(02:05):
what hurt? Doesn't she have the same dirt that Jeffrey
Epstein would have?

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Who knows?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Well, come on, what do you mean, who knows? I
don't you know?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well inside of this no, we don't know. She could
be more of a quote unquote trusted asset. I mean,
you talk about conspiracy theories. People are out here saying
that three letter agencies within.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Our government were involved with this.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
They're intimating that they may have raped children. I mean,
this thing is crazy. Well yeah, and we don't really
know how crazy because they won't release at all, which
is what people are asking.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Just release everything in.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
The Israeli intelligence and how it could be, you know,
a collusion between the United States and Israel. There's the
other people saying, well, they're doing this on purpose, and
later they're going to come out and say, well, we
had to lie to you because you know, the investigation
was still ongoing. We uncovered these things. So there's all
these conspiracy theories here. But you know, I just have

(03:01):
to look at it and say, well, this administration blew
it by puffing it up so big and then not
paying it off, and they probably knew there wasn't much
of a payoff there to begin with. Dan Bongino said
as much. Going back weeks and weeks and weeks ago,
I think Cash Bettel may have said the same thing.

(03:21):
And again, if there was this whole wealth of evidence
and a client list and all of these people who
are trying to protect then what about Jaseyn Maxwell.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
If you drone view this and you look at what
an awful nightmare this is for the administration. It looks
by these current actions like they are protecting pedophiles, and
sadly that you know, is what it is.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
It's perception.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
This is public perception because they haven't released what they
said they thought they had or might or could or would.
I mean, the whole thing is just a mess. You
want to get a Steve here, quicks. Do you appreciate
the call this morning?

Speaker 5 (04:01):
It protected him? I mean, he's a pedophile. He gets
caught being a human trafficking pedophile, and he gets this
sweetheart deal and Florida the government agencies all stepped up
to protect him. It's unbelievably, it's way too much to
ask for us to say, okay, let's move on. Jeffrey

(04:24):
Epstein didn't kill himself and there was no client list,
that was his job. Everything about the guy thinks he's
supposedly the greatest investor. And you know the history of
Wall Street, No one on Wall Street ever met him.
Where did he get six hundred billion dollars or however

(04:47):
much he was worth.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
It was incredible the whole thing is incredible. The way
that it's unfolding not what we expected.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
No, And you know, and again, where did he get
his money? I don't know how did Sam Bay and
Freed get his way. He did it in much the
same way, you know, not through blackmail, but hanging out
with famous people. And look how many people were lining
up to take their picture with the slob and his

(05:16):
shorts and his messy hair, and and you know this
crypto guy who went down, you know, another Ponzi scheme,
and he was hanging out with all these celebrities and everything,
and that's what he did. He leveraged his image of
being connected to get that money. So I'm not saying

(05:37):
that there's not more under the surface, but I don't
you know, I'm not buying all these conspiracy theories. The
guy was a pedophile. He was brought up on charges.
He was not that protected. And if you're used to
a pampered to rich lifestyle and all of a sudden
you're facing the rest of your life in prison over

(05:59):
pedophilia of all things, and they don't treat pedophile as
well in prison, then you can understand why he might
want to kill himself. Donald's on the line. Donald says that, well,
I'll let you present your point of view.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Donald, good morning, Good morning. I feel that usually Trump
sees all the angles, So I don't think he would
put himself in a situation like this to begin with
with a Pam Bondi and Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, to me,
common sense would tell you he has a client list.

(06:33):
So I think there's more to be had. We just
have to sit and wait. And obviously they're saying that
there's nothing to be seen here because they got a
some more digging right now. And I think maybe Jasey
Maxwell should be pressed a little bit more to see
what she knows. We're talking about Jeffrey, but I don't

(06:56):
hear much in the news about Jasey.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
No, but maybe she's traded. You know, we don't know
what kind of deals she's making behind the scenes to
keep her life. I mean, you know, there are a
lot of people out here like, hey, Now they're pointing
to the fact that before the break we heard from
Steve and he talked about Jeffrey Epstein in Florida and
his prosecution there and it being a sweetheart deal he
was actually that was Pam Bondi, who was Attorney general

(07:21):
at the time in Florida. That's not been talked about
a whole lot. I mean, so this is going to
get interesting. I don't know what they were thinking to
whip everything up and then to let it all fall.
And you know, you said, Donald, well we'll just have
to wait and see. Well, they're telling us there's nothing
to see here, and people are upset about it. And
ironically conservatives, where are the Democrats? They'll seem to be

(07:44):
jumping on this for some reason.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
That's interesting, right. I just feel like Trump usually sees
the angles you want to put himself in this situation,
so I think there's more to be had. We just
have to sit await and right now they're trying to,
you know, say nothing fear due to the thatch. There's
more to come. We just got a hold over her

(08:07):
hand close to the chest. But I guess we'll wait
and see.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well it could be Donald, thanks for the call this morning.
Appreciate it. Seven to two one talks seven two one
two five five. If you want to comment this morning,
I think we need to define client list because if
and they haven't explained this at all, So if you
believe Pam Bondy and the Department of Justice. Then they

(08:33):
say there's no client list, and people are like, well,
how could that be. Because he's rubbing elbows with these
famous people, it doesn't necessarily mean they're that there are
his clients. So when you say client list, maybe it
would be more accurate to describe it as a blackmail list,
you know. And well, certainly he has a client list.

(08:55):
Well and I'm just playing Devil's advocate. Well maybe not.
You know, he's just hanging out with the rich and
famous and leveraging that for his own wealth and not
necessarily blackmailing them, you know. And there's some party favors
that go along with being Jeffrey Epstein's friend, just like
if you were a P. Diddy's friend. So, you know,

(09:19):
there's so many different angles to this. I don't know
what the truth is, but the Trump administration did not
do themselves any favors and how they handled this so far,
and maybe Donald's right, it seems like a huge misstep
for somebody that's usually ahead of the game. So maybe
there is something there that they're trying to not necessarily protect,

(09:42):
you know, an aspect of an investigation that they're trying
to protect. And that would also make sense if they
come out and say, well, investigation's over, nothing to see here,
But the investigation's not over and there's more to uncover.
I don't know, you know, I'm just presenting every which

(10:03):
side because it's gotten crazy and it looks like this
was a mishandling of you know, I don't know if
I go so far to say a mishandling of justice,
but a mishandling of the public relations over this case. Certainly,
unless there is something else there.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
It's a miscarriage of justice for those victims. I would
say for sure, Well, he.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Killed himself, so you know, how could that be a
miscarriage of justice? You can't try somebody that's dead.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
So he's one guy in an operation that was alleged
to be quite large that there were potentially others.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
And that's the whole point of all of this.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
This is why people want it all released, not closing
the door and say there's nothing to see here. This
isn't going away for them. We'll see how they handle it.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, well, we'll see how it all turns out. And
and Donald, thanks for the call. This morning. We're covering
this morning's Tom Stories. President Trump says the former CIA
director and former FBI director are quote crook at as hell.
Trump was asked about a Fox News report that the
Department of Justice is opening a criminal probe into former
FBI chief James Comy and CIA director John Brennan. The

(11:12):
pair are reportedly being looked at for potential wrongdoing related
to the investigation into claims of Russian interference in the
twenty sixteen election. Trump said he doesn't know much about
the reporting, but whatever happens happens, Well, you.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Know how the left's going to spend this. He's going
after his political ofviseries. It's like these were sitting members
of some of his administration that he actually had to
let go because of a potential shadiness. This is a
nice way of putting it.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, James Comy pretends he's a boy scout. That guy's slimy,
he's a bad cop. And they lied on Paiza warrants
in front of judges. They did all kinds of nasty things.
They didn't follow proper PROTOCOLSI director John Brennan, formerly self
avowed communist, Literally look him up and look about what

(12:09):
he wrote about in his political positions. Earlier in his life,
literally a communist and they're shady. And I think they
should have thrown James Clapper into this mix too.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, I was a little surprised Clapper wasn't on the
list here.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah, getting up there and lying to Congress and the
American people, so, you know, so they can say this
is political retribution all they want. John Brennan says, the
whole thing's made up. And I saw him even isn't
this rich? And we used to toss around gaslighting so much?
But this is a perfect example of gaslighting. He's like,

(12:51):
they've weaponized the Department of Justice something like that. You
have to be kidding me, good, are you serious? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (12:58):
What?

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, a couple of slimeballs there.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, there are things I want to say I can't.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
And so the President's correct when he says they're cricket
as hell. The hits keep coming for Elon Musk. Elon
Musk's favorability is declining. According to Decision Desk HQ. In
the last week, Musk's net favorability has dropped three point
four points, and the percentage of people who view him
favorably reached its lowest point yet at thirty five point

(13:28):
four percent. Musk's popularity has taken several hits over him
leading the Department of Government Efficiency, which sought widespread cuts
across the federal workforce, as well as his renewed feud
with President Trump and his moves to launch a separate
political party. His declining popularity has also been seen among
Republicans who had previously viewed him more favorably.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
You think percentage wise the amount of people who, let's
just say, are America first supporting this president, voted for
President Trump? Do you think what do you think of
the percentages the breakdown wise of people who, if you
had to pick a team, are going to stay on
Team Trump or jump over to team Elon.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
I think it's probably ninety five percent are going to
stick with Trump.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
If not more so, where do you think Elon's head
is in all this?

Speaker 3 (14:20):
I think he got a little uh. I think he
got a little big for his breeches.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Think he got a taste of power and being around
that power. And I mean we see this. You see
it in the workforce where everybody's like they can't fire me,
this company couldn't survive without me, And it's like, oh yeah,
I can.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
I don't like the idea.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I realize that we are in, thank god, the freeze
country on the planet as long as we can keep
it and a good you know, welcome Elon to that
and the idea that he wants to make this third party.
But it really concerns me because we need to keep
control the Senate and the House for so that Trump
is not a lame duck president.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
For his last two years.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
So come twenty twenty six Trump needs a wake up
November twenty sixth with a Republican controlled House and Senate.
And Elon is threatening that with this America First Party
or America Party or whatever it's called.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Well, I mean, I kind of understand where he's coming from.
I don't want to trash Elon Musk. I mean, I
think that he's wrong here, but I understand his frustration certainly,
and he made heavy sacrifices and you know, and now
he's saying, did I what did I do all that for?

(15:42):
If this is what's going to be the case.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Well, to me, you settle those questions before you get involved.
And who knows, we don't know behind the scenes that
they have assurances one way or the other of tax
cuts on evs or whatever else. I mean, it's been
reported that no, no assurance is there for that.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
I'm not sure that that's what he's totally upset about.
You know, that's easy for the people that oppose him
or on the other side of his wrath to say, well,
you're just upset because we cut your the ev so
called mandate and your tax credits and all of that.
But beyond that, look at the attacks on you know,

(16:25):
the Tesla dealerships, look at the tanking of Tesla stock,
look at the decreased sales of Tesla and just you know,
getting drug through the the sewer, over all of this
dog stuff. And then you know, you have Congress turn

(16:48):
around and just let's put us another three or four
trillion dollars in debt here. I mean, I understand the frustration,
So I think he's going he's taking his frustration out
in the manner. But humans are human, you know, not
everybody's perfect. So I'm not going to trash the guy.
I understand his frustrations, but yeah, I think you know,

(17:13):
and maybe from his point of view, he's like, well,
I tried to play the game and play on this
side of the aisle, and look, I didn't get anywhere.
And you know the thing is Trump is used to
this elon not so much well, and several other people
wouldn't be used to it either, right, it wouldn't have

(17:33):
the fortitude to see it through and deal with it.
So you know again, I mean, I think, you know,
we ought to thank him for his service. That doesn't
mean you have to agree with all of his tactics
that he's pulling down.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, we have been. I think the people recognize that
Doge is exposed to more than anyone could have ever fathomed,
and so of course that's we the people are thankful
for Congress. Well, they did kick him in the crotch
on that one.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Well, and I think that there needs to be more
exploration of exactly what went on with Doge. You know,
at first they were promising two trillion dollars in savings
and then one trillion dollars in savings, and now we're
at like I looked at the Doge clock yesterday. I
think it's one hundred and eighty billion. That's a far
cry from a trillion or two trillion. So is that

(18:24):
because there's not that waste in the government, like they
thought there was, or said that there was, or is
it because he was stimied in his efforts. We're covering
this morning's top stories. Philadelphia is experiencing a certain kind
of nasty funk and by the way, you have to
pronounce it Philadelphia. A strike that led to a trash

(18:45):
pile up in Philadelphia appears to be over. Some nine
thousand public sector union workers walked off the job eight
days ago, halting trash collection and other services. Yesterday, both
sides agreed to a nine percent wage increase over three years.
When workers return, they'll be dealing with overflowing garbage on
the streets that's created a foul odor across the city

(19:07):
of Brotherly Love. If you've seen the drone shots, it's
incredible that this is thing's only been going on for
a week and literally it's like the streets are tunnels
of trash on each side of the street, just a
contiguous line of trash piled up like six feet high.

(19:27):
I'm like that, it's incredible. It's kind of sad.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah, get a burn.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Barrel and start taking care of the problem yourself. I
don't know, I'm just I don't want to see my
I would.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Never I don't know if you can do that in
the in the city.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, I mean, I understand, but otherwise you're living in
a heap of trash until these people, you know, figure
it out.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
And nine percent sounds pretty good.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Now.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
I don't know what that looks like over three years
in the breakdown, but I wouldn't mind a nine percent raise.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, nine percent over three years. So I'm guessing three
percent a year. You know, it's beating inflation right now.
So you know the point I'm making is, you know,
these these aerial shots of the trash piled up in
that city is just incredible and it shows you, like
how much trash we produce every day. And like I said,

(20:18):
I'm not you know, some staunch environmentalists, but it's kind
of sad.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
That engross and unhealthy and can you imagine having to
go back to work to clean to dig out of
this mess?

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, it's pretty horrible. And can you imagine having to
step out into that foul odor? We know a little
something about that around here.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Oh yeah, permea.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
You know, you get used to the pluff mud. I
don't you know what you don't get used to are
the is that you know, the the paper factory smell
like that stinks. I remember walking through. This was years ago,
and I was walking behind these people in the store
and one guy he was obviously or I'm just surmising

(21:06):
this that he's a visitor or whatever, and he goes,
you know what, Charleston stinks.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Man, thanks for visiting, see you later.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Well, no, I mean I knew exactly what he was
talking about.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Honestly, Well, it's as bad as it used to be
if you go back to like the nineties, say, or
even before that, eighties, seventies, you know, when there were
several of those factories around and at certain times the
city did stink.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Oh yeah, My granny had a house which my aunts
and mom grew up in off a park Circle in
North Charleston. At one point, you know, as I was
getting out of college and transitioning jobs, and the house
was empty and I was able to stay there for
a little while. I literally I was physically when they
would crank up that it was near the paper bill.

(21:53):
When they would crank that up, I would literally be
awaken out of my sleep with burning eyes. I mean
I physically was affected by that. And a lot of
other people have been really over the years.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, it was horrible, and I knew exactly what the
guy was talking about. Charleston stink man.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
I don't even want to think of it.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I can't stand the smell of trash, and I'd said,
grab a burn barrel and start taking care of your
own trash.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
You're like, you can't do that in the city.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Well, I mean really, and that's not good to think about.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
The coscerned about the police coming and giving me a ticket.
They can't even get down the street. Probably, Oh, I.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Don't think it's very practical if you're living in downtown
Philadelphia to get a burn barrel and burn your trash.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Sure, we can figure out a way, is the point.
I'd rather do something to solve the problem than continue
to be a part of the problem. You can find
something metal to potentially, you know, burn with, But you're right,
maybe in a way they're not used to that and
could set fires and then cause more problems.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Well, think how many people are concentrated in that area,
and then what you're going to have, Like you're going
to have your burning plastic, You're burning all kinds of things,
and is the stench going to be any better when
you're burning the trash, and then you're just filling up
the city with smoke from burning track. I don't you know,
I don't think that's a very good solution. If you

(23:16):
live out in the country, yeah you can go, oh
you take it out to your burn pile or your
burn barrel and take care of it. But when you're
living in a city with how many million people, you
can't do that.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Well, I pray for these people that they get their
trash problem figured out.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Well, the strike's over, so now they have to go
clean it up and earn their.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Rays and mountains of it. You said tall as you were,
I mean you're six seven.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
It looked that way. Yeah, I don't know exactly how
tall they were. But I watched this drone shot that
was going down the street in downtown Philadelphia, and the
trash was piled up on both sides of the street
like high and continuously block after block after block after block.
I'm like, that is an incredible amount of trash after
just one week. And it shows you, like, you know,

(24:07):
how maybe we have to change our behaviors and change
our way and change our packaging and in all of this,
you know, creating that much trash in a week in
just Philadelphia, and then you think of how that goes
on all across the country, or across the world for
that matter.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
I think of the vermin it brings in.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Look, yeah, it's disgusting all the way around. And you know,
hopefully they get it cleaned up fast and the people
of Philadelphia can breathe easy again.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Thanks for listening to the Charleston Morning News podcast. Catch
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