#143 The Way of the Satisfied Woman with Alana Kaivalya

In this powerful episode of Chats with Gigi, I sit down with spiritual leader and author Alana Kaivalya to explore what it truly means to reclaim feminine power. Centered around her transformational book, The Way of the Satisfied Woman: Reclaiming Feminine Power, our conversation invites women to redefine success, deepen their intuition, and reconnect with their most authentic selves.

If you’ve ever felt disconnected from your body, your truth, or your purpose, this episode is the permission slip you didn’t know you needed.

0:00:00 - The Feminine Way of Doing Business
0:06:15 - Introduction of Alana Kaivalya and Her Work
0:07:35 - Alana Kaivalya's Journey and Book Timing
0:09:01 - Defining Femininity and Its Misconceptions
0:13:36 - The Role of Intuition and Emotional Depth
0:18:59 - The Power of Feminine Intuition in Business
0:29:44 - The Four Keys to Feminine Satisfaction
0:35:06 - The Importance of Community and Support
0:39:15 - The Role of Masculinity in Feminine Satisfaction
0:56:32 - Nourishing the Feminine Self

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you've been around my ecosystem for any amount of time,
you've heard me talk about doing business the feminine way.
You've heard me talk about being led by your intuitive compass.
You've heard me talk about the importance of being able
to stand in the natural gifts that we have as
women and to lead from that space, not from our

(00:24):
learned behavior of doing business like men, because they were
doing business in quotations first, and thus we once we
entered the workforce, we did it like them. But doing
it like them doesn't work for us, because we are
different beings, we are built different, we have a different
set of natural tools and skills and gifts, right, and

(00:46):
I feel like it is a detriment to us. You've
heard me say this before, to try to do things
in life like men would write, just because historically men
have been doing those things more and so this is
a conversation that I have all the time. So when
I was given this book, The Way of the Satisfied Woman,

(01:09):
Reclaiming Feminine Power, and I kept reading the author's phenomenal
words and the way in which she expresses the power
that we have as intuitive beings, and how we need
to reclaim that feminine power to not just lead better lives,
but ultimately to create a better world that is more

(01:31):
equitable and balanced and healthier on all levels for all people.
I just had it to first of all, I devoured
the book, and then second of all, I had to
bring the author onto the podcast so that you could
meet her. This is one of the books that I
absolutely have loved reading, that I recommend. I'm actually going

(01:53):
to be adding it to my list of resources inside
our Seizing Happy Hybrid community, and I am even going
to incorporate this book into the suggested readings for a
Simple Business System, which is our destination offer here at
Seizing Happy. It is that good, it is that transformational,
and so the author Alana Kaivalia. She is a best

(02:16):
selling author. This is not her first book. She is
an educator, She is a thought leader. She is an
expert on mythology, spirituality, psychology, and women's empowerment. She is
the author of Sacred Sound and Myths of the Asanas.
She earned her doctorate in Mythological Studies with an emphasis

(02:39):
in depth psychology from pacifica Graduate Institute, and she is
the host of the Satisfied Woman podcast. She lives in
Beautiful La and you can find her and get to
know her better at the Satisfied Woman dot com. Alana
is joining us for this episode of Chats with Gigi,
and I have a feeling this is not going to

(03:01):
be her last visit. This is Chats with gg a
podcast for women who are ready to step into their power,
get unstuck, and create more.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Freedom in all areas of life.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I'm your host, GGDZ certified life and business coach, media
personality and multi passionate entrepreneur. I've helped hundreds of women
find the necessary clarity, confidence, and courage to build their
dream life and achieve success with less stress. If you're

(03:36):
seeking weekly motivation, practical and spiritual advice, and tangible resources
to scale in life and in business, then you're in
the right place.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Here we go?

Speaker 1 (03:51):
All right, Alana, I have to tell you this is
and I feel like I say this every once in
a while and not all the time. This is one
of the best books I've ever read. I've literally been
sitting with it like this all morning. I can't put
it down, and then when I do, I put it
down from my hands, but it is not down from
my brain.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
It has led me to really reassess.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
The ways, all the ways in which I do all
of the things, because it is so beautifully written and
so simply delineated, but also so deeply rooted in allowing
us to kind of look at some superficial ways in
which we are misapplying the misdefined word of femininity, and

(04:39):
then also the very deeply ingrained ways in which we
behave feminine or not that are rooted. They're rooted in
the way that we've been brought up, and the way
that we've been told to do or not do things,
and the way that we've been told good and bad
are represented in our and our behaviors and our words,

(05:02):
even in the volume of our voice. And so I
do a lot of work. I do a lot of
like inner work and meditation and reading, and I talk
to my coach and I talk to my therapist and
all this shit. But like this book, this thing right here.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Has really.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
It's like it shook me a little bit where it's like,
but wait, there's more, in a good way, in a
beautiful way. And also I find I found in the beginning,
especially some parts of it, very triggering, which is I
feel for me, at least the sign of a good book.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, you're just sitting there like, yeah, I agree. Oh
this is fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I mean, not really getting at anything, you know. But
there are some parts that I'm like, wait, what is
she trying to say right now? Because that sounds like something.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I don't like.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
And then it's like, oh, that's why I don't like it,
because the part of it that I believe is rooted
in bullshit. And so the way she's saying it requires
me to be more courageous, requires me to have to
step up, requires me to expand into a bigger, better
version of me in order to not be triggered by that.
And so I don't want to give anything away, but
we're going to talk, and we're going to talk for
a long time. So I hope you cancel whatever you

(06:13):
have next. I'll give you like five minutes to text
whoever you have to tell.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
It's cleared the day, don't even worry about it.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Fantastic, Okay. So the Way.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Of the Satisfied Woman, this book is all about reclaiming
the feminine power, and I feel like it is also
so freaking timely. But when I think about how timely
it is, I also want to ask you, how long
were you working on this book? Is it feels like
you wrote it yesterday, all in one sitting.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
I didn't write it yesterday, all one sitting. I've actually
been doing the study and the research on this book
for almost twenty years. And the timing could not be
more perfect. And I had no idea. I know that
a couple of years ago I was I was running
a business that I was done with and tired of
doing the particular business. I was ready to talk about this,

(06:59):
and so I actually I sold the business, shifted everything
that I am, everything that I do, to this because
the calling was so powerful and almost so commanding within me.
So once I cleared that space, I got the book
deal and started writing. And that was probably almost two
years ago now that that process really began. I mean,

(07:21):
I've been teaching about this work, writing about it in
other ways, but to put it all together and to
bring it into the book it was long before what's
happening now. But I think something in me new that
this time was right.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I find it both disturbing and fascinating that this is
twenty years ago relevant today.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Oh it's one hundred years ago, relevant today, it's five
thousand years ago relevant today. I mean, women have been
living under the patriarchy for anywhere between three and eight
thousand years, and they've had a lot of time to
figure out how to diminish, dismiss, and repress us. And
we are very lucky, despite whatever's happening for us right now,
whenever your podcast listeners are listening, we are incredibly lucky

(08:07):
as women to be living in this time, in this
place right now. We have more power, agency, and choice
than we do right now at this time than we
ever have before. I mean, thirty years ago, women couldn't
have their own bank account without a male co signer.
Thirty years ago, that's not that long ago. So we
live in a time where we can actually start to

(08:28):
pull the wooll off of the eyes, so we can
start to course correct, we can start to really live
the principles of femininity, whereas thirty years ago, not only
wasn't it possible, but it was less safe to do so.
So we're quite lucky.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
So let's start there. Let's start with femininity. The word right.
I love how in the book you explain what we've
been told femininity is right, and I actually have I
want to, I have so many notes of I never
have notes when I'm interviewing people.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Wow, did you like are you dog youring pages? That's fantastic?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Look at the hold on where is it I have?
This is the part I have.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Like, oh my god, that you have no idea how
much joy that brings me to see my book in
use like this. It's such a powerful feeling. Thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
And this is this is kind of like speed reading,
because usually when I'm like in in relaxed reading.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Mode, I will take pen to this and argue with you.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Oh, I will like write well also, but I was
talking to you off off camera, yes a little while ago,
where I've had like some very busy times and I
haven't really been able to sit down and enjoy this
book the way that I usually do when I when
I bring authors on on the podcast, and it's just like, hmmm,

(09:57):
I we already discussed it. It's like I'm going to
have to bring you back on for another for another interview,
another sash, for another sash when I have written in
all of the margins of this book perfect, Okay, So
I want to talk about femininity. I think is a
really good place to start because it's so much of

(10:18):
what the book is about, but there's just so much
misunderstanding and misdefinition of what femininity is. Right, And so
in the book you talk you say, hold, I'm trying
to grab something. In the book, you talk about how
femininity has been defined by the masculine, and it has
been defined by the masculine as its counterpart. Right, it

(10:41):
has been defined just as like the opposite of what
masculinity is, and so it has been defined as delicacy, frailty,
and breakability. I love that you use those words in
relation to the masculine. And as I hear that, I'm like, yeah,
but defin not what feminine is. And I want to
hear your definition of feminine.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Feminine femininity is fierce. Femininity is wild, it's free, it's expressive,
it's deeply inquisitive. The feminine is the truth seeker. The
feminine will not rest with discomfort. The feminine is I mean,
powerful beyond measure. The feminine has life force, energy. We

(11:22):
are generative, we are creative. That's the kind of thing
that can't be harnessed or tamed. Two of the feminine
superpowers our intuition and our emotional depth. And that's another
thing that's been really overlooked and dismissed. And I would
say that it hasn't been masculinity specifically that's defined femininity.
I would say that it's more the patriarchal culture that

(11:42):
we're in and his misdefined femininity. Because there's nothing wrong
with masculinity as a psychological energy, there's nothing wrong with
femininity as a psychological energy. These are the energies of
the world that we live in operating. They are simply
the dichotomy of our existence. They are the the polarities
that make everything work. So we need both. Both work

(12:05):
in conjunction with one another, but we need both in
their healthiest expression. And what women have been taught and
trained in this culture and in this day and age
throughout patriarchal history is that we are less than we
are subservient, we are better seen than heard, we are
prettier when we smile. We are meant to be meek

(12:25):
and mild and soft and breakable, and that we are
at the service of.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Men.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
None of that is true, None of that is healthy masculinity.
All of that is just kind of a cultural doctrine
that keeps people in power and power and keeps people
not in power, not in power. So that's something that
we can certainly argue and rail against, but I just
want to be careful and mindful that there are good
men out there. In Masculinity is not the problem. It's

(12:58):
unhealthy masculinity and the patriarchal notions of power and control
that are the problem.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
In your research, where have you found was the point
or have you found the point when it changed? Because
it wasn't always like this. There are there are still
very few, but there are still some tribes that are
that are untouched by this behavior, that are still matriarchal,
that that honor and cherish women. And we'll talk about

(13:25):
your definition of cherish and being cherished later. But have
you found in your research the points when it all
got fucked up?

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Well, it's not like there's a marker in time. I
think it's kind of like the frog and the boiling
pot of water, which, if you've heard that metaphor, when
you put a frog in a pot of water that
is regular temperature, it doesn't notice, and when you slowly
turn up the heat, eventually that frog is being cooked
to death, but it is already still in the pot
and it doesn't know to get out because the temperature

(13:58):
is changing so slowly. I think it was more of
that kind of progress, and research doesn't give a like
definitive moment, but we do see these problems start to
arise with the rise of agriculture and the concept of ownership.
So the ownership idea of I own this land, I

(14:18):
own these animals, this area is mine is when we
start to see these more patriarchal ideas creep in. And
of course, what's more powerful than a woman who gives
birth and is creative nothing. When you own that, you
basically own humanity. So I think that somewhere in there
was this concept of like the idea the idea of

(14:42):
ownership is fine, The idea of protection is good. And
I think originally, you know, one of the masculine superpowers
is protection. I think originally it probably started as that
healthy concept of protection, like, hey, this is my this
is my tribe, this is my space. I want to
make sure it's safe from harm. Now can become distorted

(15:02):
into control. So the initial underlying energy of it protection
is good, but the way that it then distorts in
the control is where the problem begins.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
When we think about you know, However, many hundreds thousands
of years it's been since that, Yeah, the pot is boiling,
the frogs are jumping.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, I am a frog. I'm a jumping frog. I
am a lucky frog.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, because I have a phenomenal man who he said,
not all men are are no broken in this way.
My word's not yours, but you know I have I'm
lucky to have a husband who trusts my intuition in
a way that sometimes I am surprised even that Sometimes

(15:52):
I'll say, you know, I just don't.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
I don't know, and he'll just be like, Okay, it's done.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
And I'm like, wait, you're not going to like discuss
it and try to rationalize with me, And he's like, nope,
if it's not, he'll say the words like if your
gut says no, it's not, or like he'll say something like, eh,
I don't know your face. When your face looks like that,
it's a bad idea, and I'm like, when my face
looks like what, and like he just has that what
he's come to terms with, Like I don't always have
a logical explanation for when I say, eh, it's not

(16:20):
it's just not aligning with me.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
With that.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
I know that the people listening to your podcast can't
see the giant, baming smile on my face. But the
fact is to hear you say that like, it's evidence. Okay,
it's evidence because that is peak healthy masculinity, the feminine.
Our powers of intuition and emotion are powerful and critical
and at the core of who we are and how

(16:45):
we decide what is actually best, not just for us,
but for those in our environment. Femininity will not rest
if everyone is not happy. Okay, So it's not just
a selfish thing to say, oh, I don't feel good
about this, or this isn't feeling right to me. He's
actually good for the whole. So one of the issues
is that that intuition and emotion have been so diminished

(17:08):
to dismiss because it is not logical and rational logic
and reason, those are the masculine superpowers. Those are masculine traits.
Intuition and emotion is not meant to be rational.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
It's just not.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
It's coming from a different place. We're not supposed to
rationalize it. And when you have the masculine truly honoring
and cherishing the feminine, he is not dismissing it. He
is not rationalizing it. He is simply using it as
almost like the wind in his sails, to ensure that
he's on course. And if that wind shifts, the course shifts.

(17:40):
It's as simple as that, and it doesn't need to
be rationalized. And I want to I want to really
give you, your female, your women listeners permission to you
do not have to justify your emotions and your intuition.
You don't have to, and find someone who honors them
as they are.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I love that because I have been in conversations before
with other men. I mean, I had a life before
my husband. I hardly remember, but it was there.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
You know. And I have spoken to men about this before,
and even to some women where I've said I just
don't have a good feeling about it. Yeah, that says
it's not a good idea, and they won't ask me why,
and I'm like, I don't know, it's just my literal
gut feels like there's a break in my stomach right
now and it's a no. But why do you not

(18:34):
like it? It's is the proper? Is the proposal not enough?
I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I don't give you. I can't give you logic. I
won't give you logic.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
I don't have the time to try to logicalize what
I feel in my stomach. It's in my stomach. It
says no, And I'm done and speaking about that. You there,
there's a bit in your book that talks about how
there's actually science behind the gut feeling.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Can can we talk about that a little bit?

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Sure, Well, I mean, look, all of your not all
of your I think about seventy percent of your brain hormones,
your emotional hormones are actually made in your gut. So
they talk about it as the gut brain. And we've
I mean, as human beings, we've known that for so long.
Do you feel it in your gut? I would know
this doesn't feel right in my belly, Like there's kind

(19:19):
of an inner knowing when things don't sit well with us,
that our bodies are telling us something else. And we
do have wisdom that goes beyond logic. We just do.
Everyone has intuition. Men have intuition, Women have intuition. It's
the feminine principle, but everyone has it. And when your
gut says no, I mean it's literally like that part

(19:39):
of your brain inside of you talking to you saying
this isn't the right time, this isn't the right energy,
this isn't the right space. So there's a lot of
research and science behind, you know, not just listening to
our gut, but the detriment when we don't. No one ever,
not one person, one hundred percent of the time time

(20:00):
has ever been served from ignoring or dismissing their intuition.
It never ends well. And you're welcome to find out
why with all your logic and reason, or you can
just listen to your.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Gut, or you can just listen period, right, Like it's
just come on now, there's something really beautiful I think
in your book that I that I loved reading, and
it's it talks about the power and the purpose of
feminine intuition. It's not just this thing, right, It's not
just like, oh, it's this cool trick I have I
talk about when I when I when I coach in business.

(20:35):
One of the things that makes my coaching approach unique
is the fact that I tell women they need to
do business like women. And this is very different from
how men do business. And we'll get into that, and
I'm excited to hear your your take on this also.
But the way that I teach this is through what
I like to call the intuitive compass, where it's like, Okay,
you want to scale your business. Before we start looking

(20:55):
outside at systems and things that we can implement, I
want you to ask your gut, what does your intuitive
compass say about the scalability right? And then we can
find the systems to support whatever your intuitive compassays. Whichever
direction your intuitive compasses go, then okay, great, we're going
to go in that direction. What tools do we need find?
Let's find that right like that already exists. And one

(21:15):
of the things you talk about is how our intuitive
guidance has been honed through a long lineage of our
fore mothers since time immemorial.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
That's right. And you talk about how.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Our grandmothers and our grandmother's grandmothers have informed our sense
of place and being and rightness, and that this is
a powerful teaching and our job is to heed it.
And you talk about how in our deep history these
women have cared enough about us to pass down their message,

(21:52):
and they placed it in our soul so that we
would listen when it mattered. Most I've read this line
so many times, and it chokes me up every single time.
It's just like, it's just so beautiful because it gives
us a reminder of how present we are and how
present we've been, and how present they still are within us.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
And also like.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
The learning of depositing this in our own children, in
my little boys intuition and my daughter's intuition. If I'm
ever blessed with meeting her in this lifetime, and it's
you know, you say it's hard, but we are women.
Our choices are never easy.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
It has to be one of my favorite things that.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
You've written in this book when I've read so far,
and when it comes to that, when it comes to
that not easy choice of starting to remember this wisdom
that has been within us since time immemorial. It is
in our literal DNA. Yes, what would you say for
a woman who feels lit up and this conversation right now,

(23:02):
but doesn't know how to start listening to intuition?

Speaker 3 (23:07):
I would I would reassure her that it's there, that
it's inbuilt, you already have it. There's no I don't
want to dismiss her worry about missing it, because that's real.
But I would almost say, there's no practice necessary. It
is who you are. It is a part of your soul.
It's a part of your DNA. And not only does

(23:28):
it want to be heard and demands to be heard.
You know, I even tear up at that line. I
remember writing it. You know, I dedicated the book to
my grandmother, and I have had a very special relationship
with my grandmother, and she went through hell so that
I wouldn't have to. And I think about you know,

(23:50):
every woman, every woman in our history who has gone
before us, even if they just went a few years ago,
they had it harder than we do now. They had
it harder than we do now. I don't care what
you're going through right now. Women of even just one
generation ago didn't have the choices and opportunities that we do.
And I know it's still hard. I know our choices

(24:12):
are still not easy. But please, let's stand on their shoulders.
Let's use their wisdom, let's use their hope for us,
for something better, because every woman who has come before
us has hoped for something better for us. Every woman
has known this oppression. Every woman has known what it's
like to be dismissed, what it's like to be told

(24:32):
to shut up, just sit in the corner. Every woman
has heard that she can't, and every woman has felt
that she must, because that's part of our drive of
who we are. And I believe it's our responsibility and
our duty to listen. So even when you are told, oh,
give me a reason for that, give me your logic

(24:53):
behind that, my dear friend, just stop and listen. You
are in built and prepared with the knowledge and the
wisdom that you need to set yourself on the right
path for you. And to listen just means to be
quiet for a moment. You know, you might feel your
intuition is a literal physical sensation. I actually I do

(25:17):
a lot of coaching as well business coaching, and as
you can imagine, relationship coaching with this work. And I
had a powerful experience yesterday with a woman who I
think reflects what you're talking about. She's in a marriage
that is not healthy. Everyone in her life takes advantage
of her. Everyone expects her to continue to give, give, give,
without ever saying no. And she's feeling incredibly pressurized by

(25:44):
all that. And she says, Alana, I can't even hear
myself anymore. I don't even know what I want anymore.
I don't even know who I am anymore. I don't
even know what the right thing is to do anymore.
And I said, okay, just close your eyes. I said,
just close your eyes. And I said, look, it's a
safe space. Just put yourself in a recent time. It

(26:05):
doesn't matter what it is. In a recent time where
you felt somebody and it doesn't matter who it is
was asking too much of you. And feel where that
is in your body. Feel where that is in your body.
And she ended up putting her hand right around her
solar plexus and kind of up above her chest, like
right below her throat. And I said, what do you feel?
She said, I feel pressure. I said, okay. I said,

(26:26):
that's your intuition, that's your inner feeling, that's your gut feeling.
I said, that's what no feels like to you when
someone is making a request that you should not honor.
That is the sensation that your body is delivering to you.
That tells you what your boundaries are. That is a
clear no. And I said, right in that same situation,

(26:47):
with your eyes closed, what would it be like to freely,
without consequence say no to that request? And she said,
you know it's not a sensation, but I feel like
a butterfly. And I said, then that's your clear yes,
that that's the right decision for you. So it just
takes a moment. There's nothing really to do. You don't

(27:10):
have to practice, you don't have to go anywhere and
get intuition. I don't need you to do a weekend workshop.
Just sit and listen, and please listen to it and
hate it.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
It's there.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I love that so much, especially you saying like you
don't need to go to a workshop on it.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
I feel don't need to do a workshop.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
I feel like we're constantly seeking, and I've been guilty
of this, not pointing fingers here, seeking somebody else to
teach us how seeking somebody else to teach us how
to connect to our highest selves, seeking somebody else to
teach us how to tap more deeply into our our intuition,
seeking somebody else to teach us the things that are
inherently within us, and doesn't take anything. I love the

(27:52):
way that you explained just a moment ago. You said,
it is who you are. It isn't something you even
have to find. It is already there. You just have
to choose to look at it. It's not even look
for it exactly.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
I mean, and you know that's not to say that
like a good coach or a therapist isn't useful. But
guess what they're going to do. They're going to ask you,
what are you feeling right now? What does that decision
feel like? What would it feel like to make the
decision that really is yours. They're simply going to coach
you and give you some practice in honing what you

(28:24):
already know. They're going to give you the space to
really lock into This is how I make decisions. All
women need to do and I don't mean to be
this reductive, but if I can be, all women need
to do is simply listen to their intuition if it's
a clearias or a clear no. If you start there,
I guarantee. I'm not saying that the decisions are going
to be easy. I'm not saying people won't be disappointed.

(28:47):
They will, but you will know that it's right for
you if it is clear to you in your intuitive knowing.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
One of the things that you mentioned in the book
that are super important for women to be able to
truly live in this new definition of the feminine, the
wild and untamed and intuitively led feminine is that we
need to have four keys. We need to have safety
to be ourselves and free from harm and the body

(29:18):
and the mind and in the heart. That's pretty easy
to understand. We need to have security knowing that our
needs are being provided for easy to understand. We need
to have trust in ourselves, in the situation and the
people around us. And then we need to be cherished
to have our emotions and intuitions honored.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
By the masculine. That's right. That one not so easy
to understand.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Well, tell me what's not understanding for you?

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Tell me so I personally get it because I have
a man like that at home, and because I left corporate.
You know, soon I stepped into corporate to take a break.
When I did for a while, believe it or not,
that was my break as soon as it got you know,
as soon as I felt back in a box, I
was like, oh, I'm out of here. I don't do
this well anyway. Yeah, for me, the break was along

(30:08):
the lines of, like, I needed a paycheck that was
coming in every fifteen days. I needed health insurance because
I had burned myself to the degree of having to
make a hospital visit, and I needed like steady hours.
I needed somebody to tell me you have to be
at work at this time and you need to leave
at this time. Because I was working myself to physical destruction, right.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
And so I went to take a break in corporate.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
It didn't last very long, and immediately I was like,
I am not built for this. I'm not built for
being told what to do right.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
And so.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
What happens with the cherished part is immediately I am
put in the shoes of the women that I've coached that,
for example, are either still in corporate or work in
C suite and have a lot of that male energy
around around them that does not cherish their intuition, their emotions,

(31:00):
or they're creative because they're creative is not built on logic.
It is built on our inner knowing that this is
just going to work, correct. And so that's the I
want to dive into that one. For the women who
are not feeling cherished right now, specifically in those professional spaces,
what would you say, do we demand it, do we
say what's wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Do we quit? That's what I vote for, just fucking quit.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
But but you know, we can't always just quit.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
So what is what are what words do you have
for that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:30):
I look, I reflect what I said in the book.
We are women, Our choices are never easy, okay, And
these four keys, they are they are essential my you know,
the book is the Way of the Satisfied Woman. And
what I'm hoping and what I'm advocating and what I'm
living every day of my life for is to help
women become more satisfied on every level in their lives.

(31:53):
We cannot do it without these four keys, and we
cannot necessarily do it all entirely our elves. And I
know that might be a gut punch to the incredibly
independent women who are alive today. I'm one of them.
I understand how hard that is. Because our patriarchal society
has told us we need to be everything for ourselves
at all times, at all costs, and everything for everyone

(32:16):
else also without fail, always saying yes. And that is
a heavy burden to place on anyone. And it's an
incredibly heavy burden a place on a woman. We are
relational beings. We live with other people. I don't care
how independent you are, you're gonna run into someone else
at some point, life is about being in partnership, relationship, intimacy,

(32:38):
friendship with others. It just is. Now that said, not
all places, spaces, and relationships are safe. Not all places,
spaces and relationships provide security or trust, and not all places,
paces and relationships will provide cherishing. The corporate world, the
business world especially, is a very masculine rooted world, and

(33:02):
it is cutthroat. It is linear, It is based on
key metrics. It is based on doing things at all costs.
It is always most always based on doing things at
all costs to the detriment of others. There's really not
a lot of feminine expression in this form of business.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Now.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
It doesn't mean it can't be found, but I will
say it is going to be harder to find. So
for the woman in that space, look if she loves it, amazing,
we have no issue.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Right.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
And there are going to be some people in your
work culture that perhaps you can work with, I mean
to soften them in some ways, or to say that
you need support in this ways. But if you can't
get the cherishing that you need in your work environment
or in your work life, then it's really critical that
you cultivate it. Elsewhere. I'm trying to encourage women to

(33:54):
lean into it as much as possible. Right I can't
expect any of us, based on the world that we
live in, to go out tomorrow and perfect this and
get everything in order, but find it where you can.
I'm a huge advocate of curating your life very heavily.
If the friendships aren't supportive of you in this way,

(34:15):
fire them. If the communities aren't supportive of you in
this way, fire them. If your family members aren't supportive
of you in this way, you might not be able
to fire them. But can you limit your exposure? Can
you limit your time with them? Can you set clear
boundaries around your own energy so that you're not continuously
depleting yourself? And in the same way, can you do
that to some extent in your business environment which might

(34:39):
be draining you? And I am also an advocate. Look
if this is important to you, if you really want satisfaction,
if you really want to feel the true power impotency
of your creativity and full abundance, which is feminine, then
it might be time to make a switch. And I
understand if you can't do it tomorrow, And I understand
if it's not possible at all. But where can shifts
be made? Can we lean into it a little bit?

(35:01):
Where can we create some space for the feminine to flourish?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
And when I think about that, I also being somebody
who like you, leads other women right in our coaching
spaces and the things that we do. I feel like
the word cherish is so different than, for example, something
that I always talk about is like, we need to
celebrate our wins, and we need to celebrate each other. Okay,

(35:28):
and that's very active in my community. But the word
cherish is just so much deeper than that.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
It's powerful, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yes, it is just so much more than just celebrating
each other. And I feel like there's almost some like
a duty within us, within women too, because we are
so aware that we are not being cherished sometimes by
our male counterparts, by the masculine energies around us, that
it is so important that we step into that for

(35:58):
each other too, because I don't as necessarily think it
only can needs to come from the masculine to charity
each other.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Well, I'm going to challenge you there. Let's hold them accountable.
Oh no, no, it's like they are percent of the planet.
You know, they have some responsibility here and when women
support each other, it is it is just a different
style of energy. Yeah, it's absolutely critical. Women need to
support each other. We you know, part again on the
ongoing list of qualities of the feminine our community, collaboration, connection, empathy.

(36:31):
We really thrive when we're in you know, a collective.
We really thrive when we are honoring each other, listening
to each other, supporting each other through our challenges. I mean,
I think about you know, tribes of long ago and
how the women would be together all day, talking, listening,

(36:52):
working out challenges, working out problems. I mean, we we
are the emotional regulators of our family systems and commun
We just are. It's a lot of it's a lot
of work, you know, and especially in this day and age,
it's a lot of emotional labor. But that is part
of who we are. It's how we're bred where, it's
how we're built. It's how early childhood, when we start

(37:13):
to see children below the age of about five or so,
they all play together. But around age five, no matter
what culture you're in, no matter where in the world
you go, children will start to self segregate into gender
based on play, and the little girls will create like
little scenarios, they'll have like little arguments, they'll have little
family issues, and then they'll work them out. So we're

(37:35):
already practicing this communal connection, empathetic, you know, emotionally rooted
basis of living and emotional regulation. Whereas the little boys
are going off and they're playing war games, they're strategizing,
they're looking for, you know, more territory, more power, who's
strong or who's more capable. There's competition, and that lends

(37:55):
itself to a different set of really powerful qualities in adulthood.
So when women get together and support each other, it's
calling back who we are as feminine beings. Because one
of the other things that the patriarchy tricks us about
is that women are meant to be in competition with
one another with one another, and it's a way to
isolate us. It's a way to make us fear the other.

(38:18):
It's a way for us to feel always kind of
about our back foot, like, oh, we have to compete
with her for that man, We have to compete with
her for that job. We have to compete with her
for the likes. We don't have to compete that's a
great lie. We can all dismiss with supporting each other
in communities of women who make us more powerful. I mean,

(38:40):
I look, I marched in twenty seventeen during the med
Too movement in New York City. You know, I wore
my pink pussy hat. I felt the power of that
many women with a simple ask coming together to create
social change. That is how social change is created. Think
about the suffragettes in the early nineteen hundreds. When women
get tother on a core idea, the world can't help

(39:03):
but notice. And when the world is patriarchal, it doesn't
want to change, so it tries to separate us, it
tries to shut us down. So support amongst women is critical.
But it is different than being cherished by the masculine.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
I agree, yeah, that's and so would you say that
the feminine always needs a masculine counterpart?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yes, Now, that is not qualifier here. That is not
to say that it has to be heterosexual and that
it has to be between a you know, male born
male at birth and born female at birth.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Person.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Okay, it's we're in the future. All expressions and identities
are absolutely wonderful. When we talk about psychological, energetic, So
the things that are just inside of us. Every human being,
every human being born in a human body, is going
to have both masculinity and femininity within them, and every
human being will effectively self select which polarity they would

(40:00):
like to more so lean into, which polarity is their
primary polarity. It doesn't matter the body, it doesn't matter
the orientation, it doesn't matter the gender. Every human is
going to have a polarity that feels more comfortable to them,
and especially an intimate relationship, it is going to be
most dynamic when you find another human being on the

(40:25):
opposite polarity, primarily. So now it doesn't mean that the
two of you can't flip in certain circumstances. It doesn't
mean that your beloved masculine partner won't need to just
lose his shit for a minute and get all emotional
and you got to hold the post for a second. Yes,
but then he needs to shift back right. So there's
a lot of dynamism, but a core tenet is inside

(40:48):
of an intimate relationship, opposite polarities are what attract. It's
like the yin yang symbol. I think about that a
lot in Eastern mysticism. You know, the y yang symbol
is a perfect circle. That circle can roll on down
the road to life, no problem. And inside that circle
you have two little Paisley shapes, a light one and
a dark one, and the light one has a dark

(41:08):
spot and the dark one has a light spot there
so each has a little bit of the other in it.
And the Paisley shapes in and of themselves are perfect.
They're beautiful, they're whole, they're complete, but they are designed
to work with the other. That singular paisley cannot roll
on down the road to life. It gets stuck. You
need both, you just do. And I think that's okay.

(41:32):
You know, being in a culture, there's so hell bent
on individuality and the singularity and diy like do it
yourself and do it all costs. And you know, we
really praise when people are self starters, go getters, pull
yourself up by our bootstraps. We were not designed for that.
Human beings were not designed for that level of independence

(41:54):
and individuality. We are designed for interdependence, not codependence. We're
designed to be in relationship with others, whether that's intimate relationship, friendship, partnership, family, community,
doesn't matter. We're designed to be with one another, and
when you work with someone who has a compliment, you

(42:14):
actually empower each other and you get more done, You
create more, you accomplish more, you manifest more of what
you're capable of when you have a little help.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
That feels so yummy just to this, because it's like
every part of my body is saying duh, yeah, like
don't we know this? And we do know this, but
we're not practicing it like we should, and so it's
just it's it's so refreshing. What would you say, is,
you know, having talked about femininity and having talked about

(42:51):
the book and the keys and stuff like that, what
would you say is the definition of the satisfied modern
day woman?

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Sure? So I chose the word satisfaction very very deliberately,
and I was thinking about, Okay, if I'm gonna I'm
gonna think about, like, what do I really want for women?
I don't want success for them because success is very masculine.
It's very linear, it's very at all costs, it's very singular,

(43:20):
and women don't operate that way. The feminine doesn't operate
that way. So I was blown away when I heard
the definition of a satisfaction. So I'm gonna rely on
that for what a satisfied woman is. So satisfaction is
defined as ready hitch pencils. The pleasure derived from the
fulfillment of your wishes and needs. Every inch of that

(43:45):
is feminine exuberance.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Pleasure is a feminine principle. The feminine feels pleasure like
like nothing else. When we feel pleasure, we run it
through our bodies. We are lit up from the inside.
Pleasure is the self expression of our life force, and
the feminine is the carrier of life force energy. When

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that is alive within us, when it is tingling through
every cell, every atom of our bodies, that is what
pleasure looks and feels like. And women, you know that.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
You know that.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
You know that when you when you have pleasure in
any form, it doesn't have to be sexual pleasure. It
can be the pleasure of watching a sunset, a sunrise,
your children play. When you feel that sense of a liveness,
that is pleasure and that is yours. And when you
feel pleasure and run it through your bodies, it extends
outwards and other people respond and feel it as well.

(44:40):
So our pleasure is the root of pleasure and joy
for everyone around us. Okay, so that's really important. Fulfillment
is not linear. Fulfillment is circular. Fulfillment can take turns.
Fulfillment is holistic. Fulfillment is not at all costs. A
woman cannot be happy if those are around her are not.

(45:02):
So a woman's happiness actually means that everyone else in
her system are also elevated. You know that old saying,
if mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. Well, in this case,
all of us ladies are mamas. Our happiness creates, brings up,
makes sure ensures the happiness of others. So the pleasure
derived from the fulfillment that holistic communal experience of our

(45:26):
wishes and needs.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Now.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Having needs met is every human being's desire on the planet.
Every human needs to have their needs met. That's critical.
And I don't just mean like having a roof over
your head and food on the table. I mean whatever
your core needs are, whatever it is that makes you
feel safe and secure in this life and wishes. Having
your wishes fulfilled are what brings life meaning. Life itself

(45:50):
has no meaning but that which we bring to it,
and that comes from the fulfillment of our wishes. So
a satisfied woman is a woman who is experiencing the
pleasure of that fulfillment of her wishes and needs every day,
every day, and every day that can change every day,
that can evolve. She can wake up one morning and say, yeah, yes,

(46:12):
this is my pleasure filled, fulfilling experience. Or she'll wake
up one morning and say, actually, there's something over here
I need to tweak because that sense of discomfort, that
inner knowing, that little fester of something like the sound
inside of the oyster, that eventually becomes the pearl, that
little sense of discomfort that is ours first, the feminine

(46:34):
feels it first, and we will not rest, we will
not be comfortable until that is resolved. So it's a
constant evolving process, and that is really at the heart
of who we are and the ability to grasp that
kind of satisfaction is I believe every woman's birthright.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
I love that so much, and I love the openness
of it because it can look in any way. One
of the examples that you use in the book that
I absolutely love. I wonder if I I wonder if
I can find it.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Yeah, it's not what we do, it's how we do it.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Yes, exactly, I actually have it here. It's well, there
isn't one cookie cutter representation of what the satisfied woman
looks like. We know her because of her ability to
embody and express the greatest attributes of femininity with confidence, wildness,
and freedom. It doesn't matter if she's changing the motor

(47:30):
oil or baking cookies. What qualifies is feminine isn't a
list of activities, but rather the way any activity is undertaken.
That's right, and that is my brain the first and
the second time I read it, because I read it
it was like, yeah, that's how we do about how
you do it, that you do it intuitively, lead, that

(47:51):
you do it with joy, that you do it because
it lights you up from the inside out, that you
do it because it's bringing you satisfaction, because it's making
you feel a hole whatever that is.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
And I want to stress, like the differences aren't the problem, right,
differences between masculinity and femininity are not the problem. There's
there's been a long narrative of what's right and good
is only the masculine version of something, So that's just
not true. Like the image that keeps coming to mind
that I really want to give is kind of a

(48:22):
metaphor here. My beloved masculine partner is a motorcycle rider,
so we and I like to ride on the back.
I'm not the pilot in this case, the driver, so
I get to observe quite a lot. And you know,
he as a solid masculine motorcycle riding human. You know,

(48:43):
dodges and weaves throughout traffic and he's like pulling right
up to the back of cars and then stopping kind
of quickly, and you know, he.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
He's a man.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
He's a man about it. On his on the big
steel horse he rides. And we do a lot of rides,
like like commune or group rides where we go with
the groups of people and there's always you know, a
few women on motorcycles, and you'll notice that they ride differently.
They're weaving through traffic is so much more graceful, it's
so much more fluid. The way that they stay in

(49:15):
a little community pack together that they can always see
each other and talk to each other. They're still riding
the motorcycles, but they're doing it in their way. And
that's the critical piece. Because I grew up in the
early eighties where I was told Hey, you can do
and be anything you want, and boyd, I believe that narrative,
and I still want to impart that to all the

(49:36):
women listening. But I want you to do it in
your own way. One of the worst things we can
do is, you know, there's that saying. Joseph Campbell is
famous for it, but I'm not sure it originated with him.
There's nothing worse than building your ladder and climbing up it,
only to realize you've laid it on.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
The wrong wall.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yeah, yeah, So I want you to do it in
your way. I don't care what it is. I don't
care if it's building rockets. I don't care if it's
baking cookies. I don't care if it's riding motorcycles or
horses or bicycles. I don't care if it's driving fast cars,
slow cars. I don't care if it's you know, dressing
in your feminine way with lace, or dressing in your
you know, more masculine way with I don't even know

(50:20):
what I mean. Whatever it is, right, I just want
you to do it in your way, because the gender
differences or the hilarity differences are not the problem. It's
the differentials that are the problem. It's when we see
one is better than the others, when we see one
as being more relevant or more acceptable than the other,
that's the problem. Differences are fine. Differentials are where we

(50:42):
get stuck.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
This is this is a beautiful and powerful conversation, and
it is even more beautiful put into play, put into action,
and it requires all of us. Like you said, it
requires the woman to have the courage to be come
untamed again, to trust her wild, to tap into that

(51:05):
intuition and trust it and act on it without explanation,
without justification. It requires men to find their own courage
and confidence to allow themselves to be almost in a
way led by us, or to trust us to also
give them that intuitive knowing right and to kind of

(51:29):
just be by inside, not necessarily want to walk ahead.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
But where does that start?

Speaker 1 (51:35):
If you were going to give me a tangible explanation
of doing so, we can be this is the being part,
the being untamed, the being courageous, and the being in
our intuition. Where is the doing to make it happen?

Speaker 3 (51:51):
I mean, I guess it would depend on what it
is you want to do. Because the feminine is receptive
and I'm not saying that we're all sitting around eating
bond bonds all day. Boy, do I wish that were
the case.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah. The way that the.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Feminine moves and does think about.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
It is.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
It's not I mean, it is outward because we're out
in the world. We're doing things, but we're moving from
our center. Right, if you think about it as being
intuitively led, you are only moving when the intuition says yes,
and when it stops saying yes, you just stop. And
we have to be okay with that, right, We have
to be okay with that downshift because one in the core,

(52:28):
another core feminine quality is receptivity. One of the things
I want to encourage us us to do is women
is actually to do less. And I don't mean accomplish less.
I don't mean be less relevant. I don't mean be
less engaged. I mean stop doing the things that aren't
yours to do, which so many of us do. I mean,
I can't tell you how many women I speak to,

(52:49):
especially in my coaching practice, like oh, you know, I've
got Jimmy's fourth soccer practice this week. Get I have
to lose sleep and get up early to take my
husband to the airport. I've got to make sure that
I meet the dead. I want to get this done
early for my boss. I'm like, why, you know, yes,
we can do it all, but the question is do
you want to do?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
You want to do?

Speaker 3 (53:10):
You really want to do it all? Because if we
continually fill up that space of doing, we are never
allowing ourselves to be in the space of receiving. You
have to leave a vacuum. You have to leave space
for the masculine to fill. You have to give them

(53:30):
the opportunity to do something for you. And what's remarkable
in that is it actually empowers everybody when you do that.
The masculine loves getting shit done. The masculine loves that,
you know, that energetic direction. They love the pursuit of things.
They love the accomplishment, they love fixing problems. They love this.

(53:53):
Let them do it. Let them do it. And again,
you're not sitting. They're any bond bonds. You can say
that you know what, Actually the honey that doesn't feel right,
or honey, that's not quite we're not quite there yet.
I think about it. You know, I'm a sailor and
I actually have solo sailed. I can sail my boat
on my own right, I can sail across twenty five
hundred feet of open ocean to the island of Catalina,

(54:15):
thirty two nautical miles away by myself on my little boat.
And boy does that feel amazing. But nothing feels as
amazing as having my beloved masculine partner on that boat
with me. Look, it's my boat. I'm the captain. My
little shirt says captain. And I'm at the back of
the ship with the tiller kind of directing the flow,
and I'm feeling the air and I'm feeling the wind,

(54:37):
and I'm watching how the sails fill. And when my
beloved masculine partner is at the prow of the ship,
going honey, are we going in the right direction? And
I say, yes, off, we confidently go. And if he
says honey, or we're going in the right direction, and
I say, you know, maybe we need to trim a
little bit this way, hang on to your hat. We're
going to take a you know, and tearing this way.
He he's responsive to the direction. But we are both

(54:58):
making that both go. We're both making that boat go.
Both of us have responsibility. Both of us have roles,
and my role and I wouldn't call it leadership because
I define leadership as more of that of a masculine term.
I would call it like a calibration. Hm, we're the calibrators.

(55:23):
If we're comfortable and happy, we know that we're on
the right In sailing terms, tack your your whole boat
is going to shake and rock if you're not on
the right tack, if you're not working with the wind.
You know, that's when you start to run into trouble.
That's when the lions get tangled. That's when the rigging gets,
you know, soured. You want to you want to be

(55:44):
on the right tack in order to get to where
you're going, and sometimes that's not always linear. Sailing is
beautiful because it's never a direct line and the masculine
has to listen to the changes of the natural forces
in order to get to the destination. And it's a partnership,
it's a collaboration.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
So I love that.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
And so you're a sailor, the captain of your boat. Yeah,
you're also a tango dancer, which I found fascinating because
I started to learn to dance tangle if you go
to and one of the things I love about it
is that it forces me so much into my feminine
For a very long time, I was very much in
my masculine energy, especially as an entrepreneur, and Tango was

(56:26):
one of those things that taught me, Oh, wait a minute,
that's not my job.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
You will literally fuck it up if you're not in
your pment.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah, and soar I hear these as ways to replenish
and recharge with all this fucking hard work that we're
doing to fix this planet. So right, just by tapping
into our femininity, what would you say the feminine woman
needs to do to nourish herself and to recharge as
we step into that wild, untamed, intuitive version of our

(57:00):
selves that also has to remind other people like, hey,
shut up and sit down. I'm not done being crazy yet.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
I never it's funny, you know, I'm just noting that
that's the second time you've asked about.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Doing Yeah, what do we do?

Speaker 3 (57:12):
What do we do? What do we do? Ladies? Stop
doing so much. You are already doing too much. What
more do you want me to put more on your plate?
Like we couldn't possibly do more. We're already being asked
to be everything for ourselves and everyone else at all times.
I want us to start getting comfortable with doing less.

(57:33):
Where can we create that vacuum Because if you don't
create that vacuum, nothing will fill it. You'll never feel
that cherishing grace of the masculine, whether it's from within
you or whether it's from outside of you. So I
think that doing really is the first and most important
thing is to tap into your intuition, to tap into
your emotions, to really understand and feel what it is
that you need on a daily basis, sometimes even a

(57:55):
moment to moment basis. Self care is amazing. I mean,
everybody loves self care. That definite helps to replenish us.
It's great for the feminine. The feminine. One of the
feminine words that I like is nourishment. How do you
nourish yourself? How do you take in? Because I have
a chapter in my book called Women Are Not the
Bottomless Well. So if you think of a woman as

(58:15):
a well, right, the well is filled from the inside
with water, and that's how the whole community drinks, and
the community can come to the well and be nourished
by it. We are the life force, We are the
life giving energy. But if the community depletes the well
before it has time to replenish, that well runs dry

(58:35):
and the community suffers and the well suffers. Right. Remember,
we're the well in this metaphor. So not only do
we have to make sure we have community members who
cherish the well, who tend to the well, who allow
the well to be replenished, we have to do the
work of replenishing. And for some of us, that's dodging
and weaving on our motorcycles. For some of us, that's

(58:57):
taking a hot bath by candle light with a glass
of our favorite beverage. For some of us, that's sleeping
in late and having coffee in the morning. For some
of us, that's going out and feeling nature. For some
of us that's staying in doors. Like it doesn't matter
what it is. I don't know what your self care is,
but you will know it when you feel that sense
of nourishment and feminine connection. And I will challenge every

(59:20):
one of you that it is probably by doing less
than what you are doing now.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
I can't think of a better way to end this
part one of this cone.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Yeah, I think we only got through the first like
two chapters of the book.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Barely through the first to chat of the book.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
But Alana, it has been such a pleasure to hold
this book in my hand and to feel it go
through my being, and to share this conversation with you
about these first few chapters. So excited to talk again
soon and to discover more what my satisfied self is.

(01:00:00):
So thank you so much for putting this work out
there for all of us. It really is transformational and necessary.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Absolutely my pleasure, and it's a great privilege and honor
to be able to do this work. So thank you.

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