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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm still I'm still I'm I'm I'm trying to, uh
to just process this, this murder, this murder of Charlie
Kirk today, it's uh, it's it's weighing on me. I
gotta be honest with you, so you folks may be
(00:22):
my therapeutic sounding board for the next hour. For all
I know, A two me WTVN is the number or
eight hundred sixt ten wtv And I got Alex Stone
from ABC News coming up, like, get mad in because
he waited through the break. Matt, you're on sixthen WTVN.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, hey, Chuck, you know, obviously what happened today is
just an incomprehensible tragedy, and you know, thinking about Charlie's
wife and Charlie's kids, you know, just absolutely breaks my heart.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
There was a caller earlier though, that she kind of
seemed almost like, you know, well, what are where, what
do we do? Where do we go from here? And
what I would say to everybody on the on the
on the radio today who's listening, is you know, truths
will always prevail and the light will always overcome the darkness,
(01:19):
and you know, when you go back and you think
about it, and you know there was you know, William F.
Buckley with National Review as a conservative voice in this country.
And then you know there was there was you know,
Walter Williams and Thomas soul And you know, when Rush
passed away, we all thought, oh, man, who's going to
replace Rush? And now you know, Buck Sexton and Klay
(01:41):
Travis have picked up that man on. They're doing an
amazing job. You know, what happened to Charlotte today was
was a tragedy. But there will be new voices that
come up and and and share the truth of conservatism
and and and share the truth of what they believe in.
(02:03):
You know, Charlie was a professing Christian. He believed in
He believed in Christ as his savior. He believed in
God as the creator and the Holy Spirit is sustaining us.
And that may have got him murdered for anything, you know,
versus his opinion on gun rights or abortion or welfare
(02:26):
or anything like that. It may have been his professor
in Christianity. But there will we should always have hope.
There will always be somebody that comes to the front
of the line of battle that will stand up and
will speak the truth and will share the truth and
that that's what we have to believe in.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I appreciate you, Matt, Thank you very much, buddy. Keep
your head up. It's it's a hard day for many
of us because this guy, I mean, you know, he's
twenty five, thirty years younger than me, but I still
looked up to him his ability to communicate with a crowd,
not to force anything down anyone's throat, but to get
them to think, to converse, to interact. And I mean
(03:07):
I thought he was He was perceived as being one
of the good guys, even for those that disagreed with him.
And this is not the way I expected his story
to end. Alex over Maybec News is on the job
out there. We know that it happened. We know that
we've lost Charlie Kirk, Alex. Do we know anything else?
Do we know who a suspect is? At this point, we.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Don't know, because yeah, Chuck, they don't have one at
this point. They initially thought that they did, and we're
gonna get up there. This is a sound inside the
room right now where they're about to come out any
moment and say what they do know and to give
us more details. But initially they thought they had the
shooter in custody. You probably saw the social video of
an older gentleman who they had kind of bent over
(03:49):
and hands behind his back that they were bringing out. Yes,
but now they're indicating that he had nothing to do
with it and that that was not the shooter. It
looks like the wrong place, wrong time of where he was,
and the thought that he was a shooter, but he's not.
It's pretty clear from all of the experts we've been
talking to of where the shot came from and the
caliber of it and the sound and the way it
(04:11):
came in. The shooter had the advantage of elevation on
a rooftop or up on the There was a balcony
kind of behind the crowd where the crowd was standing.
But nobody apparently that we know of yet saw the shooter,
so it may have been hiding on a rooftop or
hiding behind something with that elevation. But I mean, it
(04:31):
was panic when it was when that one shot came out.
These women were there, just.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Everyone got down.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Everyone was so scared.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I heard a loud bang, which I figured a shot
would be a little bit louder, Just one shot straight
in Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And he was on this Proved Me Wrong tour. He
was going to go to other places in Utah and
Colorado and Minneapolis and Virginia and Turning Point. USA. Had
been saying that this was going to be a huge turnout.
You know, they had seen the America come back to Her,
American come Back to Her earlier in the year that
had done very well on university campus. Says they thought
that this was gonna be the same thing. And it
(05:05):
was today with the crowd that was there, and that
it was a large crowd, and it was Q and A.
He was taking questions, he was answering about transgender issues
in that moment, and then the one shot right into
what looked like his chest, but those there say into
his neck. But it was pretty much fatal in that moment.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It was. And I observed the video. I did not
have audio on here in the studio. I observed the video.
He looked as if any exchange he might have been
in was not confrontational at all. It was his typical
charming Charlie out there making a point. He seemed to
be in good form and good spirits. And then I
saw him reach up to the side of his head
(05:46):
there by his jawbone, and then he was gone, yeah,
and it's in some way, Alex, believe it or not.
I think it might have been easier to take if
he was screaming back and forth with some rabid person
in the audience and they pulled out a gun, it
would have least made sense.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah, from the looks of it, it looks like this
was planned. You know, that this was not and we
understand from those who were in the crowd that it
was probably sixty to seventy percent supporters and then twenty
thirty forty percent who were opponents of his But this
wasn't in the moment. This seems like this shooter had
a you know, some kind of rifle, had the advantage
(06:23):
of altitude, of being up high, of more of a
a single bullet assassination. Really, that this was not just
in the moment angry decided to fire a shot. That
this seems like something that was much more planned than that.
So even you know, if and those who were there
said they were surprised that they were not checked for
weapons going into it, that it was just kind of
(06:44):
everybody could hang out on the campus and listen to
him talk. But that probably wouldn't have made a difference,
because it doesn't seem like that this was just somebody
in the crowd who in that moment pulled out a gun,
that it would appear that this was something much more planned,
and that they were somewhere but not in the crowd itself.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Right there. I know you have your hands full and
the schedule to keep. We'll probably talk tomorrow, Alex Stone,
ABC News. Thank you for being there when we need you, buddy,
you got it.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
What about the fifteen minutes past the hour? Now? Eight
two one, nine eighty six is the number eight one
WTV And I just Zach and I have been talking
off the air a lot, and I'll be honest with you.
I see this. This isn't like a right wing thing.
I'm not looking at him as one right wing guy
(07:27):
to another, or one broadcast guide to another. I'm looking
at him as you know, his dad, as as husband,
as you know in my case, dad, the grandkids. And
I saw one person say thankfully his his child was
only two years old. I'll tell you what my two
year old granddaughter this morning, she said time for bye bye,
(07:50):
love you, Paul, Paul hugging kiss don't tell me the
child's only two. Don't tell me about that child only
being too, and he'll never hold him again, and they'll
(08:15):
never give him aug and kiss again. Because he dared
to have an opinion that somebody didn't want him to have.
He dared to articulate thought somebody didn't want him to share.
He dared to get people to think and opened their
minds to something other than whatever they'd been programmed with.
(08:40):
He wasn't rude, He wasn't a nasty spirited person. He
went to these college campuses and he talked and he said,
here's my point of view, and he invited those who
disagreed up to the microphone and he let them talk,
and he had the audacity to then ask them questions.
(09:00):
I was just watching some videos yesterday a student identifying
as transs I guess gender. I never know whether to
say trans sexual, transgen. I don't know. That's not disrespect,
that's just ignorance on my part. I don't know what
I'm supposed to call. But the guy or the person was,
you know, it was obviously a male person wearing a
(09:22):
wig and wearing a dress and speaking with what he
thought was an ef feminine way, and Charlie allowed him to,
you know, talk about everything that made him a woman.
And he asked him, have you had any surgeries? And
this person said, no, I haven't had surgeries, but I
(09:42):
still feel like a woman, So you had no surgeries.
The extent of your dedication to this is that you
wear clothes that are normally reserved for women, and you
speak in a funny voice that you think sounds like
a woman, and you call yourself a woman. That is
your dedication to being a trans person. Is that right?
And the guy said, well, I don't need any more
than that, and Charlie asking, and then I will ask you,
(10:05):
with all due respect, if I put on a brown makeup,
am I a black man? It's a valid argument. This
person's had no physical alterations. They're just wearing the clothes
and claiming the title. But it started a conversation with
(10:30):
this person that actually ended in I'll have to think
about that. Not I hate you, I want you, dad,
I'll have to think about that. That's the way this
thing works for me. This is all I try to
get you to do is think, talk, Just don't swallow
(10:50):
everything hole that's thrown at you. You're not a seal
for goodness sake. Think, think everything through things, always ask
for more. There's no such thing as too much information.
(11:11):
That's the way I've tried to be and that's what
I saw in him, and he was he was someone
I was proud of, even though I never knew him anyway.
I'm sorry. I'm trying my best not to let this
affect how I sound to you tonight, but I am
legitimately kind of just just shaken up by the fact
(11:35):
that this is what we have become. We disagree with you,
therefore we will kill you. And I'll be damned if
somebody out there is not going to make an excuse
for whenever they catch this person, they will start making excuses.
They were already online yesterday politicians elected officials making excuses
for the guy that killed the woman on the train
(11:56):
in Charlotte. Well, what we have to understand was he
was in pain, but she's dead. Man. We are in
bizarre world. A TWOTV and is a number. Let's get
a few in here. Mark, you're on sixth WTV.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
And good evening. I wanted to reach out and mention
that Charlie Kirk was in Columbus August twenty fifth and
spoke at the Lincoln Reagan Dinner of Delaware County. He
spoke at the Hilton up at Polari, and anybody who
(12:35):
got to be there and got to listen to Charlie,
it was quite amazing. What an impressive characters, such a
heart for our young citizens, unbelievably spoke of of just
(12:55):
how challenging everything is for them. He was spoke of
his love for the Lord, and he was just so dynamic.
He was just somebody who when you listened to, he
just drawed you in. And it was a wonderful night.
And I just wanted to make sure that anybody that
(13:18):
was there was just take him away and just over
the top impressed with this man.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, his ability to connect those young people with something special,
that's probably the highest praise I can give him. I
met a lot of the TPUSA kids during the last election,
college kids that were out here work in the Trump campaign,
and they were an impressive group of youngsters. His influence
over them, his testament to who and what he was
I'm still I'm still I'm I'm I'm trying to, uh
to just process this, this murder, this murder of Charlie
Kirk today, it's uh, it's it's weighing on me. I
gotta be honest with you, so you folks may be
(00:22):
my therapeutic sounding board for the next hour. For all
I know, A two me WTVN is the number or
eight hundred sixt ten wtv And I got Alex Stone
from ABC News coming up, like, get mad in because
he waited through the break. Matt, you're on sixthen WTVN.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, hey, Chuck, you know, obviously what happened today is
just an incomprehensible tragedy, and you know, thinking about Charlie's
wife and Charlie's kids, you know, just absolutely breaks my heart.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
There was a caller earlier though, that she kind of
seemed almost like, you know, well, what are where, what
do we do? Where do we go from here? And
what I would say to everybody on the on the
on the radio today who's listening, is you know, truths
will always prevail and the light will always overcome the darkness,
(01:19):
and you know, when you go back and you think
about it, and you know there was you know, William F.
Buckley with National Review as a conservative voice in this country.
And then you know there was there was you know,
Walter Williams and Thomas soul And you know, when Rush
passed away, we all thought, oh, man, who's going to
replace Rush? And now you know, Buck Sexton and Klay
(01:41):
Travis have picked up that man on. They're doing an
amazing job. You know, what happened to Charlotte today was
was a tragedy. But there will be new voices that
come up and and and share the truth of conservatism
and and and share the truth of what they believe in.
(02:03):
You know, Charlie was a professing Christian. He believed in
He believed in Christ as his savior. He believed in
God as the creator and the Holy Spirit is sustaining us.
And that may have got him murdered for anything, you know,
versus his opinion on gun rights or abortion or welfare
(02:26):
or anything like that. It may have been his professor
in Christianity. But there will we should always have hope.
There will always be somebody that comes to the front
of the line of battle that will stand up and
will speak the truth and will share the truth and
that that's what we have to believe in.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I appreciate you, Matt, Thank you very much, buddy. Keep
your head up. It's it's a hard day for many
of us because this guy, I mean, you know, he's
twenty five, thirty years younger than me, but I still
looked up to him his ability to communicate with a crowd,
not to force anything down anyone's throat, but to get
them to think, to converse, to interact. And I mean
(03:07):
I thought he was He was perceived as being one
of the good guys, even for those that disagreed with him.
And this is not the way I expected his story
to end. Alex over Maybec News is on the job
out there. We know that it happened. We know that
we've lost Charlie Kirk, Alex. Do we know anything else?
Do we know who a suspect is? At this point, we.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Don't know, because yeah, Chuck, they don't have one at
this point. They initially thought that they did, and we're
gonna get up there. This is a sound inside the
room right now where they're about to come out any
moment and say what they do know and to give
us more details. But initially they thought they had the
shooter in custody. You probably saw the social video of
an older gentleman who they had kind of bent over
(03:49):
and hands behind his back that they were bringing out. Yes,
but now they're indicating that he had nothing to do
with it and that that was not the shooter. It
looks like the wrong place, wrong time of where he was,
and the thought that he was a shooter, but he's not.
It's pretty clear from all of the experts we've been
talking to of where the shot came from and the
caliber of it and the sound and the way it
(04:11):
came in. The shooter had the advantage of elevation on
a rooftop or up on the There was a balcony
kind of behind the crowd where the crowd was standing.
But nobody apparently that we know of yet saw the shooter,
so it may have been hiding on a rooftop or
hiding behind something with that elevation. But I mean, it
(04:31):
was panic when it was when that one shot came out.
These women were there, just.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Everyone got down.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Everyone was so scared.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I heard a loud bang, which I figured a shot
would be a little bit louder, Just one shot straight
in Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And he was on this Proved Me Wrong tour. He
was going to go to other places in Utah and
Colorado and Minneapolis and Virginia and Turning Point. USA. Had
been saying that this was going to be a huge turnout.
You know, they had seen the America come back to Her,
American come Back to Her earlier in the year that
had done very well on university campus. Says they thought
that this was gonna be the same thing. And it
(05:05):
was today with the crowd that was there, and that
it was a large crowd, and it was Q and A.
He was taking questions, he was answering about transgender issues
in that moment, and then the one shot right into
what looked like his chest, but those there say into
his neck. But it was pretty much fatal in that moment.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It was. And I observed the video. I did not
have audio on here in the studio. I observed the video.
He looked as if any exchange he might have been
in was not confrontational at all. It was his typical
charming Charlie out there making a point. He seemed to
be in good form and good spirits. And then I
saw him reach up to the side of his head
(05:46):
there by his jawbone, and then he was gone, yeah,
and it's in some way, Alex, believe it or not.
I think it might have been easier to take if
he was screaming back and forth with some rabid person
in the audience and they pulled out a gun, it
would have least made sense.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah, from the looks of it, it looks like this
was planned. You know, that this was not and we
understand from those who were in the crowd that it
was probably sixty to seventy percent supporters and then twenty
thirty forty percent who were opponents of his But this
wasn't in the moment. This seems like this shooter had
a you know, some kind of rifle, had the advantage
(06:23):
of altitude, of being up high, of more of a
a single bullet assassination. Really, that this was not just
in the moment angry decided to fire a shot. That
this seems like something that was much more planned than that.
So even you know, if and those who were there
said they were surprised that they were not checked for
weapons going into it, that it was just kind of
(06:44):
everybody could hang out on the campus and listen to
him talk. But that probably wouldn't have made a difference,
because it doesn't seem like that this was just somebody
in the crowd who in that moment pulled out a gun,
that it would appear that this was something much more planned,
and that they were somewhere but not in the crowd itself.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Right there. I know you have your hands full and
the schedule to keep. We'll probably talk tomorrow, Alex Stone,
ABC News. Thank you for being there when we need you, buddy,
you got it.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
What about the fifteen minutes past the hour? Now? Eight
two one, nine eighty six is the number eight one
WTV And I just Zach and I have been talking
off the air a lot, and I'll be honest with you.
I see this. This isn't like a right wing thing.
I'm not looking at him as one right wing guy
(07:27):
to another, or one broadcast guide to another. I'm looking
at him as you know, his dad, as as husband,
as you know in my case, dad, the grandkids. And
I saw one person say thankfully his his child was
only two years old. I'll tell you what my two
year old granddaughter this morning, she said time for bye bye,
(07:50):
love you, Paul, Paul hugging kiss don't tell me the
child's only two. Don't tell me about that child only
being too, and he'll never hold him again, and they'll
(08:15):
never give him aug and kiss again. Because he dared
to have an opinion that somebody didn't want him to have.
He dared to articulate thought somebody didn't want him to share.
He dared to get people to think and opened their
minds to something other than whatever they'd been programmed with.
(08:40):
He wasn't rude, He wasn't a nasty spirited person. He
went to these college campuses and he talked and he said,
here's my point of view, and he invited those who
disagreed up to the microphone and he let them talk,
and he had the audacity to then ask them questions.
(09:00):
I was just watching some videos yesterday a student identifying
as transs I guess gender. I never know whether to
say trans sexual, transgen. I don't know. That's not disrespect,
that's just ignorance on my part. I don't know what
I'm supposed to call. But the guy or the person was,
you know, it was obviously a male person wearing a
(09:22):
wig and wearing a dress and speaking with what he
thought was an ef feminine way, and Charlie allowed him to,
you know, talk about everything that made him a woman.
And he asked him, have you had any surgeries? And
this person said, no, I haven't had surgeries, but I
(09:42):
still feel like a woman, So you had no surgeries.
The extent of your dedication to this is that you
wear clothes that are normally reserved for women, and you
speak in a funny voice that you think sounds like
a woman, and you call yourself a woman. That is
your dedication to being a trans person. Is that right?
And the guy said, well, I don't need any more
than that, and Charlie asking, and then I will ask you,
(10:05):
with all due respect, if I put on a brown makeup,
am I a black man? It's a valid argument. This
person's had no physical alterations. They're just wearing the clothes
and claiming the title. But it started a conversation with
(10:30):
this person that actually ended in I'll have to think
about that. Not I hate you, I want you, dad,
I'll have to think about that. That's the way this
thing works for me. This is all I try to
get you to do is think, talk, Just don't swallow
(10:50):
everything hole that's thrown at you. You're not a seal
for goodness sake. Think, think everything through things, always ask
for more. There's no such thing as too much information.
(11:11):
That's the way I've tried to be and that's what
I saw in him, and he was he was someone
I was proud of, even though I never knew him anyway.
I'm sorry. I'm trying my best not to let this
affect how I sound to you tonight, but I am
legitimately kind of just just shaken up by the fact
(11:35):
that this is what we have become. We disagree with you,
therefore we will kill you. And I'll be damned if
somebody out there is not going to make an excuse
for whenever they catch this person, they will start making excuses.
They were already online yesterday politicians elected officials making excuses
for the guy that killed the woman on the train
(11:56):
in Charlotte. Well, what we have to understand was he
was in pain, but she's dead. Man. We are in
bizarre world. A TWOTV and is a number. Let's get
a few in here. Mark, you're on sixth WTV.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
And good evening. I wanted to reach out and mention
that Charlie Kirk was in Columbus August twenty fifth and
spoke at the Lincoln Reagan Dinner of Delaware County. He
spoke at the Hilton up at Polari, and anybody who
(12:35):
got to be there and got to listen to Charlie,
it was quite amazing. What an impressive characters, such a
heart for our young citizens, unbelievably spoke of of just
(12:55):
how challenging everything is for them. He was spoke of
his love for the Lord, and he was just so dynamic.
He was just somebody who when you listened to, he
just drawed you in. And it was a wonderful night.
And I just wanted to make sure that anybody that
(13:18):
was there was just take him away and just over
the top impressed with this man.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, his ability to connect those young people with something special,
that's probably the highest praise I can give him. I
met a lot of the TPUSA kids during the last election,
college kids that were out here work in the Trump campaign,
and they were an impressive group of youngsters. His influence
over them, his testament to who and what he was
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