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Speaker 1 (00:12):
This is the shot.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Way into the studio right now. He was unavoidably detained.
Sometimes things happened. I was just worried that he was
going to maybe melt when he was out there. But
he is coming back into the studio.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
He's seated as we speak. Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Can you hear I want to know what you're doing?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
What was I like?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You do?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
He's on his way, he'll be here. I see him
walking across the room now.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I was making myself laugh.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
He's wearing something from Oscar Dale Renta this evening. It's
like your Academy Awards or something man By Time. Oh
my gosh, okay, hang on, let me give my headphones right.
There is nothing worse And this just get one more
reason to hate Apple so much. Nothing worse than clicking
on something that you expect to work and it doesn't work.
(01:09):
And it's not because you messed up anything. It's because
Apple did yet another reset. They're constantly updating stuff and
uh uh, you know, and all of my passwords to
all the apps that I use on a daily basis,
apparently I have to reset. I tried to get into
the the checking a cat a little while ago to
move some money around. Couldn't do it. And then when
(01:32):
I tried to get in the building downstairs because we've
got that fancied and sea app, it's going, oh, we
need to update your No, we don't, not necessary. And
then I had to re establish the Bluetooth and all
this stuff to get in the door. I just I
(01:52):
don't get it. So anyway, greeting scitations are welcome to
another edition of the Power Are the Tuesday edition because
I wasn't here on Monday.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The iPhone edition.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, yeah, the I hate the iPhone edition. I want
my Android back. I gotta get a new Android. I'm
grateful to be connected right now, I really am. But
I'm just not I don't understand the allegiance to Apple products.
I don't get it. This has been more. I've got
(02:27):
an iPad and I use it sparingly and quite frankly.
I probably use it more to watch streaming stuff than
anything else. I'm just I'm a keyboard kind of guy,
so I don't use it a great deal. But I've
not had the problems out of it that the phones
seem to have. And you would think it would be
(02:49):
a corporately universal type issue and it's it's it's not
so anyway, I've got a vice mayor out of California.
I don't know if you heard this story, Zach. Did
you check that audio? Is it safe to play on
the air, because I haven't had a chance to listen
to it. Yeah, I can play. Yeah, I just want
(03:09):
to make sure she doesn't use any troub.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Language or now I went, I went through it. There's
a little bit like with like two seconds left, but
it's I got it covered.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Okay. The woman, she should be charged with some sort
of domestic terrorism. I don't care if she is an
elected official. She is vice mayor of this California town
which is apparently on the outskirts of Los Angeles. Looking
at the town's web page, everyone on the city council,
(03:38):
the mayor, and the vice mayor all have have Latino
Hispanic names, so I'm assuming that's what the area is.
She took to her social media in a video in
notheless urging street gangs to get their act together so
(04:00):
that they could protect their turf against ice if they
show up to pick up illegal immigrants. That is the definition,
the definition of domestic terrorism. When you are calling on
a street gang or in this case, gangs to mobilize
(04:22):
and fight against government law enforcement officers, you are this
woman should be charged. So I've got that audio for
you here in just a little bit. These calls that
I've got staying by, What is that about? Did something
new happen that I don't know about?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
No, I don't think anything new. I think they were
a few people have been waiting till you got back
to comment on this.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
They heard it on the podcast. Oh okay, from the podcast?
What was that about? A week ago, week and a
half ago, something like that. Yeah, when I was talking
about doctor Fusel, former Mount Mount Carmel Health doctor Fusel,
who has taken it up the noses for as I'm
concerned is, he was charged with fourteen counts of I
(05:05):
believe it was either murder or assisted I forget what
the count but it was forty and the state of
Ohio suspended his medical license. He was found not guilty,
not guilty on all fourteen counts. His medical license was reinstated,
(05:27):
although he's apparently afraid to practice, and I can't say
that I blame him, and he wanted to sue Mount
Carmel slash Trinity Health for this experience, for this alteration
to his life. And a judge about a week and
a half ago, a judge, mind you threw it out, said, nah,
(05:49):
you got no business sue, and you can't sue. They
got enough evidence on the other side, you can't sue.
And I cried bs over this whole thing, because this
guy should be allowed to present his just like his accusers.
He should be able to present his case to a jury.
And I believe that a jury, if they've got any
level of common sense, would hear his argument argument favorably
(06:15):
and award this man a settlement or bound Carmel may
settle before they even get to trial. But to deny
him the opportunity to go into a courtroom and access
that system of justice that each of us cherishes as
being ours if we need it, I thought it was
flat out wrong. So we got a couple of hang
(06:36):
who's been on hold the longest, Uh, Paula? All right,
well let's go to her first. Punch that up for me,
if you would, Zach Paula, you are on the Legacy
Retirement Group dot com phone lines.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Hi, okay, can you hear it? I hear you fine, okay, great, okay.
First of all, I want to thank you for the
attention you are giving that case regarding doctor Who's Paul.
I would like to know what can be done to
get justice for him. And by the way, there were
thirty five nurses and pharmacists who were also long police
(07:08):
terminated by Trinity Health. And who is the judge answer
to does he have someone above him that we can
hold him accountable for this tragedy. The case was deemed
appropriate to have a jury.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
This means there was.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Strong evidence in doctor Housle's behalf. It took over two
days to seat the jury, then the trial lasted over
two weeks before being thrown out by the judge. The
trial was filled with strong and convincing evidence to support
doctor Huesel. The defense was extremely lacking. I don't know
what gives the judge the power to make the decision
that the jury will not decide the case. And remember
(07:44):
they had given up three weeks of their lives to
serve him this jury. And also, where other than you,
is the media to rectify this grave injustice. The media
was quick to report the faults and this leading information
handed of them by Trinity Corporate. They have destinated the
life of this man and his family, This good man
(08:05):
and caring doctor who spent seventeen years in medical school
to become an antithesiologist. This man who had a beautiful
home in the suburbs, and who is now sleeping on
the floor. His daughter is sleeping in a lawn chair
in his wife's parent home. This is already still on
six years of their life.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Please let me ask you, what are you reading? What
is it a statement from someone?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
This is mine? I wrote this earlier today.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Okay, all right? Did you have any involvement with him
or with Trinity or is this just a matter of
interest because you're looking at it and thinking it's wrong.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I know someone who worked there and highly respected him.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
All right, And you said thirty five pharmacy people and
nurses were also part of this.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Medical professional Thirty five of them will also let go.
Nurses and pharmacist.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Do you have the idea if any of them have
been reinstated or are they all looking for work or
working in some other field.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Now I believe they're all not working for Mount Carmel.
Some of them have found a job. Very few in
the medical profession a lot of them are doing things.
They want to be nurses and they're not able to
do that.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I'm glad you brought them up. That's that's something that Yeah,
I'm going to keep hammering this because it's you know,
until it is absolutely resolved one way or another, it
needs to be heard. It needs to be heard over
and over again. And I don't know, and you know
I raised that question that you just raise it. Who
to whom is this judge accountable? As far as the
supervisory thing? Is this an Ohio Supreme Court thing? Is
(09:43):
there a judicial review? Is? You know that there needs
to be some higher authority here. This judge should not
just be able to arbitrarily say you don't have a
case and you don't get a chance. And I've got
a big problem with that because if it was you
or I, we'd have a big problem with that. Well,
I appreciate you, thank you very much. I've got somebody
(10:03):
else here I want to get in before we go
to the break. Who is that? Who else is staying
by that?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
We have bath on hold? All right, punge her up
there and let's get Beth on six to ten WTV
and Hi.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Beth A Hi, check storry to be late to the
party obviously. I think your podcast started the last Monday
or so. But I agree with everything Paula just said.
I mean, I couldn't have said it better myself. Yeah,
we should all find this disgusting that they're and worrisome
that there's no true justice and Columbus, especially for for
(10:35):
doctor Fussel and his family. I know it was Judge
Stephen Macintosh and Common Police Court because it was live
streamed from the courthouse starting on June second, I believe, and.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
It did.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It took them two and a half days to see
the jury, both sides agreeing on those jurors, and then
all this evidence was presented, which, by the way, you
can find in the trinityfiles dot org website if you
want to look at some of that evidence that doctor
Houssel was. Attorneys presented, you know, pleading the case for
(11:13):
doctor Houssel that he definitely was defamed by Mount Carmel
and Trinity Health and ed Lamb and their pr campaign
to make him a villain and the nurses co villains.
It was blatant. It's disgusting and justice needs to be served. Yeah,
and the whole thing just it very much upsets me.
(11:37):
You know, I know people close to this case, and
if you watched any of it, it was clearly going
in favor of doctor Hustle, and I think the judge
saw that. I think Mount Carmel saw that. And I
don't know what conspired behind closed doors. I was thinking
over the weekend they'd probably settle the case, and then
they come back on Monday the sixteenth, and they're like, oh,
(11:59):
by the way, the jurors don't have enough evidence to
make a decision. I'm just going to be the judge
and the jury.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And I didn't pay attention because, quite frankly, I didn't
think I needed to. This seemed cut and dry to me.
You should get your day in court over something like this,
so I didn't expect this was This was one of
those things where the magician reached in the hat. He
didn't pull out a rabbit. He pulled out a hat,
and I was not expecting it at all, which is
why I'm so why I'm so enthralled with it right
(12:28):
now is because, forget legal common sense dictates that you
get your day in court, especially when your life has
been you know, a side show for several years now.
And I was part of that media that was ready
to throw into the flames. Man, it sounded like Mount
(12:48):
Carmel had all their ducks in a row, and there
was no doubt this guy had been over prescribing the
fentanyl and he you know, falsified pharmacy records and all
this crap. We believed it to be so. But a
jury of his peers found him not guilty on any
of those charges, which means it wasn't as evident as
(13:08):
it sounded in those daily reports.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
We were getting right and being said by Mel Carmel
Doo's reports. And then what do you hear now? Crickets?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yes, people are leaving it alone, and I can't be
one of them, because you know what, maybe I'm the
only one. And if I'm the only one, and that's
what it takes for more people to know about it,
then that's what it's going to take.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Well, I appreciate you very much, and like I said,
if you do have a minute, to go to the
trinityfiles dot org. It's enlightening. Well just will all right,
thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Thank you very much for your time. I appreciate the
call a two one nine eight eighty six A two
one WTV at my number. I'll get into the apple griping.
And this woman, this California Vice mayor who I seriously,
the FBI is apparently investigating. She needs to be charged.
She was calling on criminals to rise up against society.
That is the nature of domestic terrorism, isn't it.
This is the shot.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Way into the studio right now. He was unavoidably detained.
Sometimes things happened. I was just worried that he was
going to maybe melt when he was out there. But
he is coming back into the studio.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
He's seated as we speak. Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Can you hear I want to know what you're doing?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
What was I like?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You do?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
He's on his way, he'll be here. I see him
walking across the room now.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I was making myself laugh.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
He's wearing something from Oscar Dale Renta this evening. It's
like your Academy Awards or something man By Time. Oh
my gosh, okay, hang on, let me give my headphones right.
There is nothing worse And this just get one more
reason to hate Apple so much. Nothing worse than clicking
on something that you expect to work and it doesn't work.
(01:09):
And it's not because you messed up anything. It's because
Apple did yet another reset. They're constantly updating stuff and
uh uh, you know, and all of my passwords to
all the apps that I use on a daily basis,
apparently I have to reset. I tried to get into
the the checking a cat a little while ago to
move some money around. Couldn't do it. And then when
(01:32):
I tried to get in the building downstairs because we've
got that fancied and sea app, it's going, oh, we
need to update your No, we don't, not necessary. And
then I had to re establish the Bluetooth and all
this stuff to get in the door. I just I
(01:52):
don't get it. So anyway, greeting scitations are welcome to
another edition of the Power Are the Tuesday edition because
I wasn't here on Monday.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The iPhone edition.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, yeah, the I hate the iPhone edition. I want
my Android back. I gotta get a new Android. I'm
grateful to be connected right now, I really am. But
I'm just not I don't understand the allegiance to Apple products.
I don't get it. This has been more. I've got
(02:27):
an iPad and I use it sparingly and quite frankly.
I probably use it more to watch streaming stuff than
anything else. I'm just I'm a keyboard kind of guy,
so I don't use it a great deal. But I've
not had the problems out of it that the phones
seem to have. And you would think it would be
(02:49):
a corporately universal type issue and it's it's it's not
so anyway, I've got a vice mayor out of California.
I don't know if you heard this story, Zach. Did
you check that audio? Is it safe to play on
the air, because I haven't had a chance to listen
to it. Yeah, I can play. Yeah, I just want
(03:09):
to make sure she doesn't use any troub.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Language or now I went, I went through it. There's
a little bit like with like two seconds left, but
it's I got it covered.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Okay. The woman, she should be charged with some sort
of domestic terrorism. I don't care if she is an
elected official. She is vice mayor of this California town
which is apparently on the outskirts of Los Angeles. Looking
at the town's web page, everyone on the city council,
(03:38):
the mayor, and the vice mayor all have have Latino
Hispanic names, so I'm assuming that's what the area is.
She took to her social media in a video in
notheless urging street gangs to get their act together so
(04:00):
that they could protect their turf against ice if they
show up to pick up illegal immigrants. That is the definition,
the definition of domestic terrorism. When you are calling on
a street gang or in this case, gangs to mobilize
(04:22):
and fight against government law enforcement officers, you are this
woman should be charged. So I've got that audio for
you here in just a little bit. These calls that
I've got staying by, What is that about? Did something
new happen that I don't know about?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
No, I don't think anything new. I think they were
a few people have been waiting till you got back
to comment on this.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
They heard it on the podcast. Oh okay, from the podcast?
What was that about? A week ago, week and a
half ago, something like that. Yeah, when I was talking
about doctor Fusel, former Mount Mount Carmel Health doctor Fusel,
who has taken it up the noses for as I'm
concerned is, he was charged with fourteen counts of I
(05:05):
believe it was either murder or assisted I forget what
the count but it was forty and the state of
Ohio suspended his medical license. He was found not guilty,
not guilty on all fourteen counts. His medical license was reinstated,
(05:27):
although he's apparently afraid to practice, and I can't say
that I blame him, and he wanted to sue Mount
Carmel slash Trinity Health for this experience, for this alteration
to his life. And a judge about a week and
a half ago, a judge, mind you threw it out, said, nah,
(05:49):
you got no business sue, and you can't sue. They
got enough evidence on the other side, you can't sue.
And I cried bs over this whole thing, because this
guy should be allowed to present his just like his accusers.
He should be able to present his case to a jury.
And I believe that a jury, if they've got any
level of common sense, would hear his argument argument favorably
(06:15):
and award this man a settlement or bound Carmel may
settle before they even get to trial. But to deny
him the opportunity to go into a courtroom and access
that system of justice that each of us cherishes as
being ours if we need it, I thought it was
flat out wrong. So we got a couple of hang
(06:36):
who's been on hold the longest, Uh, Paula? All right,
well let's go to her first. Punch that up for me,
if you would, Zach Paula, you are on the Legacy
Retirement Group dot com phone lines.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Hi, okay, can you hear it? I hear you fine, okay, great, okay.
First of all, I want to thank you for the
attention you are giving that case regarding doctor Who's Paul.
I would like to know what can be done to
get justice for him. And by the way, there were
thirty five nurses and pharmacists who were also long police
(07:08):
terminated by Trinity Health. And who is the judge answer
to does he have someone above him that we can
hold him accountable for this tragedy. The case was deemed
appropriate to have a jury.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
This means there was.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Strong evidence in doctor Housle's behalf. It took over two
days to seat the jury, then the trial lasted over
two weeks before being thrown out by the judge. The
trial was filled with strong and convincing evidence to support
doctor Huesel. The defense was extremely lacking. I don't know
what gives the judge the power to make the decision
that the jury will not decide the case. And remember
(07:44):
they had given up three weeks of their lives to
serve him this jury. And also, where other than you,
is the media to rectify this grave injustice. The media
was quick to report the faults and this leading information
handed of them by Trinity Corporate. They have destinated the
life of this man and his family, This good man
(08:05):
and caring doctor who spent seventeen years in medical school
to become an antithesiologist. This man who had a beautiful
home in the suburbs, and who is now sleeping on
the floor. His daughter is sleeping in a lawn chair
in his wife's parent home. This is already still on
six years of their life.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Please let me ask you, what are you reading? What
is it a statement from someone?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
This is mine? I wrote this earlier today.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Okay, all right? Did you have any involvement with him
or with Trinity or is this just a matter of
interest because you're looking at it and thinking it's wrong.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I know someone who worked there and highly respected him.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
All right, And you said thirty five pharmacy people and
nurses were also part of this.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Medical professional Thirty five of them will also let go.
Nurses and pharmacist.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Do you have the idea if any of them have
been reinstated or are they all looking for work or
working in some other field.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Now I believe they're all not working for Mount Carmel.
Some of them have found a job. Very few in
the medical profession a lot of them are doing things.
They want to be nurses and they're not able to
do that.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I'm glad you brought them up. That's that's something that Yeah,
I'm going to keep hammering this because it's you know,
until it is absolutely resolved one way or another, it
needs to be heard. It needs to be heard over
and over again. And I don't know, and you know
I raised that question that you just raise it. Who
to whom is this judge accountable? As far as the
supervisory thing? Is this an Ohio Supreme Court thing? Is
(09:43):
there a judicial review? Is? You know that there needs
to be some higher authority here. This judge should not
just be able to arbitrarily say you don't have a
case and you don't get a chance. And I've got
a big problem with that because if it was you
or I, we'd have a big problem with that. Well,
I appreciate you, thank you very much. I've got somebody
(10:03):
else here I want to get in before we go
to the break. Who is that? Who else is staying
by that?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
We have bath on hold? All right, punge her up
there and let's get Beth on six to ten WTV
and Hi.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Beth A Hi, check storry to be late to the
party obviously. I think your podcast started the last Monday
or so. But I agree with everything Paula just said.
I mean, I couldn't have said it better myself. Yeah,
we should all find this disgusting that they're and worrisome
that there's no true justice and Columbus, especially for for
(10:35):
doctor Fussel and his family. I know it was Judge
Stephen Macintosh and Common Police Court because it was live
streamed from the courthouse starting on June second, I believe, and.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
It did.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It took them two and a half days to see
the jury, both sides agreeing on those jurors, and then
all this evidence was presented, which, by the way, you
can find in the trinityfiles dot org website if you
want to look at some of that evidence that doctor
Houssel was. Attorneys presented, you know, pleading the case for
(11:13):
doctor Houssel that he definitely was defamed by Mount Carmel
and Trinity Health and ed Lamb and their pr campaign
to make him a villain and the nurses co villains.
It was blatant. It's disgusting and justice needs to be served. Yeah,
and the whole thing just it very much upsets me.
(11:37):
You know, I know people close to this case, and
if you watched any of it, it was clearly going
in favor of doctor Hustle, and I think the judge
saw that. I think Mount Carmel saw that. And I
don't know what conspired behind closed doors. I was thinking
over the weekend they'd probably settle the case, and then
they come back on Monday the sixteenth, and they're like, oh,
(11:59):
by the way, the jurors don't have enough evidence to
make a decision. I'm just going to be the judge
and the jury.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And I didn't pay attention because, quite frankly, I didn't
think I needed to. This seemed cut and dry to me.
You should get your day in court over something like this,
so I didn't expect this was This was one of
those things where the magician reached in the hat. He
didn't pull out a rabbit. He pulled out a hat,
and I was not expecting it at all, which is
why I'm so why I'm so enthralled with it right
(12:28):
now is because, forget legal common sense dictates that you
get your day in court, especially when your life has
been you know, a side show for several years now.
And I was part of that media that was ready
to throw into the flames. Man, it sounded like Mount
(12:48):
Carmel had all their ducks in a row, and there
was no doubt this guy had been over prescribing the
fentanyl and he you know, falsified pharmacy records and all
this crap. We believed it to be so. But a
jury of his peers found him not guilty on any
of those charges, which means it wasn't as evident as
(13:08):
it sounded in those daily reports.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
We were getting right and being said by Mel Carmel
Doo's reports. And then what do you hear now? Crickets?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yes, people are leaving it alone, and I can't be
one of them, because you know what, maybe I'm the
only one. And if I'm the only one, and that's
what it takes for more people to know about it,
then that's what it's going to take.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Well, I appreciate you very much, and like I said,
if you do have a minute, to go to the
trinityfiles dot org. It's enlightening. Well just will all right,
thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Thank you very much for your time. I appreciate the
call a two one nine eight eighty six A two
one WTV at my number. I'll get into the apple griping.
And this woman, this California Vice mayor who I seriously,
the FBI is apparently investigating. She needs to be charged.
She was calling on criminals to rise up against society.
That is the nature of domestic terrorism, isn't it.
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