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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Off the air. We're talking about that, you know, the
Powerball jackpot and Eddie van Halen's the Frankenstratt. You know,
I combine the words is going up for auction two
to three million. It may go higher. It may go higher,
especially if a you know, some iconic, rich and famous
(00:22):
musician wants to buy it. It could go higher than that.
But we were talking about, you know, what would you buy,
and all kinds of stuff started going through my head
that you guys started hitting me with stuff, which a
couple of them were really good. Bob. Bob thought an
iconic Payne Stewart outfit that would be for Mark because
(00:44):
he's the golf guy. But I got one. Was it Shane? Yes,
Shane sent me something I hadn't thought of, but he's exactly.
I would love to own the golden EIB microphone. That
would just I would never use it. I would not
(01:05):
feel worthy of using it, but I'd love to own that.
I don't know why anything that you didn't participate in
that conversation, Zach. Is there anything that if you had
that kind of money, you'd you'd just some part of
your history or memorabilia that that item from your life,
that you go, man, I'd like to have that.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, there's a couple of bat There is a basketball
signed by Rick Patino and most of the nineteen ninety
six Kentucky basketball team.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That I would want.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I don't know how much that would be, but there's
some Rick he was a basket basketball coach. If anybody
he doesn't know, he has some side stuff that would
be really cool.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
So other than that, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'd have to think about it.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, I mean, and plus you know it's Kentucky, so
it would be pretty cheap. The idea, I'm just kidding you.
I'm just kidding you, but I bet you everybody has
something that they would is my wheels got to and
I'm thinking, okay, the rights to uh to various things
entertainment wise from my childhood i'd love to have. And
(02:08):
the old cartoons. I asked Mark if you remembered Funky Phantom.
I know you don't, You're way too young. I have
no idea what that. You'll find a friend, friend, friend,
and Funky Fantom he'll pop right in just when you
need him. Most It was from the Scooby Doo people,
and Funky Phantom was a revolutionary war ghost. He had
(02:30):
a cat named Boo, a ghost cat named booate name
and and they would he helped the kids solve mysteries.
I would I don't know why I would like to
own the rights to Funky Phantom. It was stupid, but
for some reason it was a very It was a
short lived that Sigmund the Sea Monster, which was a
(02:54):
live action Saturday Morning thing. I wouldn't mind owning that.
Josie and the Pussycats, I think I'd like to own
that too. Wasn't that a girl show? I'm not even
being on. No, Josie and the Pussycats was. They were
a girl band, but again, like Scooby Doo, they were
(03:15):
playing a concert and then they'd have to solve a
mystery before the show or whatever. So yeah, that was there.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I wonder how much you would buy, like the intellectual
rights to like a film series like the Halloween film series.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That would probably cost millions upon millions of dollars, right,
because there's still money to be made. Those things run
somewhere every day, someplace in the planet. They're running every day.
They're still money. There's a ton of them on the
serious tip by the way here, I'm and I'm taking
this from the WBNS ten TV site. Okay, suspect in
(03:51):
twenty twenty four waffle house shooting near Ohio State sentenced
to at least twenty three years in prison. I'm thinking bravo,
no community control, finally right. This is the story. A
man charged in a fatal shooting at waffle house near
Ohio States campus last year was sentenced to at least
twenty three years in prison. Jakwan Curry, twenty one, pleaded
guilty involuntary manslaughter, felonious assault, and tampering with evidence. He
(04:15):
was initially charged with murder, but the charge was dismissed.
April twenty nine, twenty twenty four, a fight started inside
the restaurant on North High Street and continued outside. A
shot was fired during the fight, striking thirty eight year
old Ronald Diggs. Records from Franklin County Municipal Court state
that Curry pulled out a handgun and shot Digs. How
(04:38):
this was involuntary. You removed the gun, pointed it and
pulled the trigger, But it's involuntary, police said. Two other
people were injured during the fight. A Franklin County judge,
a Franklin County judge. A Franklin County judge. What judge?
What judge? Somebody finally went to print. They don't give
you the judge's name. I find this very odd. A
(05:01):
Franklin County judge sentenced Curry to twenty three to twenty
eight and a half years in prison. He'll receive three
hundred and eighty four days of jail credit. I have
now sentenced you to more time than you have been
on this earth. What you do with the next twenty
two years is up.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
To you, the judge, the judge. The judge told Curry,
I'm very curious. This isn't scathing criticism. This is a
sincere curiosity. Why ten TV would not put the judge's
name in that story.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, I can't even think of a reason.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I've been sitting here trying to can a judge say, hey,
please don't release my name.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I know they can't. No public record, the court, the
court is public record. But I you know, I think
I believe maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm the odd man
out here. Maybe, but I think most people are probably thinking, Okay,
you were in a fight, you pulled out a gun,
(06:03):
you pointed it, you pulled the trigger, you took a life,
and you went to prison. I think most people believe
that's the proper way this should conclude. So why not
give this judge credit? In this world of community control,
where nobody seems to go to jail for anything in
this town anymore, why not name the judge and give
(06:24):
them credit for sentencing and putting away someone who took
a life. I'm profoundly, I mean this profoundly curious about that.
It just it's it doesn't seem normal.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
No, Like I said, I've been sitting here trying to
think of a reason why.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I can't think of any reason why not to release
the name. There's no public blowback that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
No, you wouldn't think. And again, if somebody wouldn't really
want to get upset about it, they can. They can
look up the court record. It's not a big deal.
But as a reporting entity, immediate entity, it just seems
to me that that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
All his name was really hard to spell, and they
were just like, we can't, we can't do.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
This copy and paste. Then oh, okay, news, are you done?
Are you sure? News stories over the weekend included one
that I don't think can get enough attention. As we
are finally once again talking about the Christopher Columbus statue
(07:44):
that used to be in front of ninety West broad Street,
suddenly they're talking about where it would be. And I
don't know if you heard the game plan or not,
but one of the plans for where to locate this statue,
which is apparently in some secret storage somewhere, is to
(08:05):
put it in a park situation. But the park the park
would not focus solely on Columbus. Instead, it would feature
text and artwork detailing the city's history and Columbus's controversial legacy,
including his treatment of Indigenous people. The proposed park, approximately
(08:25):
five acres inside, would be designed in a spiral around
a circular community gathering space for festivals and concerts. It
would offer river access, opportunities for water recreation, with an
emphasis on greenery, and a reflective space under a large
stained glass skylight. Visitors could choose to view the twenty
(08:51):
two foot statue from its base or from higher ground,
where they could look at the statue in the eyes.
Text about Columbus Histy Street would surround the statue. However,
the interesting part of this is that, as I was
watching various media coverage over the weekend, the park's going
to be designed so that if you don't want to
(09:13):
see the statue, you can you can completely avoid knowing
it's there. Okay, And of course there's got to be
you know, committees and meetings and a city council vote
and all that kind of stuff before they do anything.
(09:34):
During the George Floyd protest twenty twenty, the Columbus Art
Commission and the City cruise remove the statue overnight. I
found that a very very interesting quote. This, by the way,
is the coverage from WSYX. I've never heard the Columbus
Arts Commission have anything to do with this. Andy Ginther,
(09:55):
the mayor, in the middle of the night at like
four am, is who I've understood was responsible for the
decision to remove that statue from Statey Hall. No vote,
no public input, no planning meetings, no committees, no task force,
just just middle of the night statue goes bye bye.
(10:16):
Now suddenly we're talking about the Columbus Arts Council or
Art Commission, I'm sorry having something to do with this.
I was really vocal when they took it down. Resident
Miles Stickle said, we were struggling in our country to
find out what to do with these relics of these
old men who who thought we had such a high
(10:39):
regard and really did an awful things. Critics of the
statue highlighting Columbus's violent history and enslavement of Native Americans. Meanwhile,
some Italian Americans view the Statue of Art as strengthening
US Italy relations. Since July verse the twenty twenty, the
statue has been stored at an undisclosed location, so they're
(11:03):
hiding it. Basically, we take responsibility to tell the truth
about colonialism and racism, and to tell the stories of
people who've been overlooked in a race from the telling
of our history. I invite the entire community to join
us in an inclusive discussion that will allow us to
re envision how we project ourselves to the world and
create a symbolic landscape that more closely resembles our shared
(11:26):
values and aspirations for our future. The words of Mayor
Andrew Ginther, of course, in a press release, not actually
facing people, just in a press release. This project, led
by historians, indigenous architects and designers, and diversity inclusion advisors,
Diversity and Inclusion advisors. What kind of degreedy you need
to get that gig?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I don't know, but I bet it pays well.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Use see how we can do that.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Oh man.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
They use what they called conventional and restorative practices to
support the sharing of personal narratives from Columbus residents. While
State Community College also removed its statue in twenty twenty,
the Ohio State House retained its statue on Capitol Square.
Statues of Columbus have been deleted or defaced or removed
(12:11):
in cities like Boston, Saint Paul, blah blah blah. The
proposal also includes a multiple long term temporary public art
installation for city halls, campus and the surrounding areas. Here's
the thing, everything everywhere can offend someone for some reason.
More runs, and if you don't grasp that, that's your weakness.
(12:37):
In fourteen ninety two, things were a little bit different
than they are today. In seventeen seventy six, things were
a little bit different than they are today. In eighteen fifty,
things were a little bit different than they are today.
But you continue to insist on putting today's standards, and
(13:03):
they're not even standards. I shouldn't use the word standard
because they're not standard. They're fringe, today's fringe beliefs on
the things that happened hundreds of years ago, and changing
what is because why because it makes you feel better. Oh,
(13:24):
if the statue isn't there, there was never any slavery.
If that, if that monument isn't there, we never had
any sort of racial problems in this country. Yeah, if
we don't hold that up. Women have always had the
right to vote.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I haven't seen any problems since that statue has been taken.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Man, this is so ridiculous. And of course again it's
going to require you know, committees and voting with city
council and all that kind of stuff. Why why it
didn't require that to make it disappear? Why is it
required to reappear? Oh yeah, see me, see me, see me,
or maybe that's just me.
Off the air. We're talking about that, you know, the
Powerball jackpot and Eddie van Halen's the Frankenstratt. You know,
I combine the words is going up for auction two
to three million. It may go higher. It may go higher,
especially if a you know, some iconic, rich and famous
(00:22):
musician wants to buy it. It could go higher than that.
But we were talking about, you know, what would you buy,
and all kinds of stuff started going through my head
that you guys started hitting me with stuff, which a
couple of them were really good. Bob. Bob thought an
iconic Payne Stewart outfit that would be for Mark because
(00:44):
he's the golf guy. But I got one. Was it Shane? Yes,
Shane sent me something I hadn't thought of, but he's exactly.
I would love to own the golden EIB microphone. That
would just I would never use it. I would not
(01:05):
feel worthy of using it, but I'd love to own that.
I don't know why anything that you didn't participate in
that conversation, Zach. Is there anything that if you had
that kind of money, you'd you'd just some part of
your history or memorabilia that that item from your life,
that you go, man, I'd like to have that.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, there's a couple of bat There is a basketball
signed by Rick Patino and most of the nineteen ninety
six Kentucky basketball team.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That I would want.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I don't know how much that would be, but there's
some Rick he was a basket basketball coach. If anybody
he doesn't know, he has some side stuff that would
be really cool.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
So other than that, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'd have to think about it.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, I mean, and plus you know it's Kentucky, so
it would be pretty cheap. The idea, I'm just kidding you.
I'm just kidding you, but I bet you everybody has
something that they would is my wheels got to and
I'm thinking, okay, the rights to uh to various things
entertainment wise from my childhood i'd love to have. And
(02:08):
the old cartoons. I asked Mark if you remembered Funky Phantom.
I know you don't, You're way too young. I have
no idea what that. You'll find a friend, friend, friend,
and Funky Fantom he'll pop right in just when you
need him. Most It was from the Scooby Doo people,
and Funky Phantom was a revolutionary war ghost. He had
(02:30):
a cat named Boo, a ghost cat named booate name
and and they would he helped the kids solve mysteries.
I would I don't know why I would like to
own the rights to Funky Phantom. It was stupid, but
for some reason it was a very It was a
short lived that Sigmund the Sea Monster, which was a
(02:54):
live action Saturday Morning thing. I wouldn't mind owning that.
Josie and the Pussycats, I think I'd like to own
that too. Wasn't that a girl show? I'm not even
being on. No, Josie and the Pussycats was. They were
a girl band, but again, like Scooby Doo, they were
(03:15):
playing a concert and then they'd have to solve a
mystery before the show or whatever. So yeah, that was there.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I wonder how much you would buy, like the intellectual
rights to like a film series like the Halloween film series.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That would probably cost millions upon millions of dollars, right,
because there's still money to be made. Those things run
somewhere every day, someplace in the planet. They're running every day.
They're still money. There's a ton of them on the
serious tip by the way here, I'm and I'm taking
this from the WBNS ten TV site. Okay, suspect in
(03:51):
twenty twenty four waffle house shooting near Ohio State sentenced
to at least twenty three years in prison. I'm thinking bravo,
no community control, finally right. This is the story. A
man charged in a fatal shooting at waffle house near
Ohio States campus last year was sentenced to at least
twenty three years in prison. Jakwan Curry, twenty one, pleaded
guilty involuntary manslaughter, felonious assault, and tampering with evidence. He
(04:15):
was initially charged with murder, but the charge was dismissed.
April twenty nine, twenty twenty four, a fight started inside
the restaurant on North High Street and continued outside. A
shot was fired during the fight, striking thirty eight year
old Ronald Diggs. Records from Franklin County Municipal Court state
that Curry pulled out a handgun and shot Digs. How
(04:38):
this was involuntary. You removed the gun, pointed it and
pulled the trigger, But it's involuntary, police said. Two other
people were injured during the fight. A Franklin County judge,
a Franklin County judge. A Franklin County judge. What judge?
What judge? Somebody finally went to print. They don't give
you the judge's name. I find this very odd. A
(05:01):
Franklin County judge sentenced Curry to twenty three to twenty
eight and a half years in prison. He'll receive three
hundred and eighty four days of jail credit. I have
now sentenced you to more time than you have been
on this earth. What you do with the next twenty
two years is up.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
To you, the judge, the judge. The judge told Curry,
I'm very curious. This isn't scathing criticism. This is a
sincere curiosity. Why ten TV would not put the judge's
name in that story.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, I can't even think of a reason.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I've been sitting here trying to can a judge say, hey,
please don't release my name.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I know they can't. No public record, the court, the
court is public record. But I you know, I think
I believe maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm the odd man
out here. Maybe, but I think most people are probably thinking, Okay,
you were in a fight, you pulled out a gun,
(06:03):
you pointed it, you pulled the trigger, you took a life,
and you went to prison. I think most people believe
that's the proper way this should conclude. So why not
give this judge credit? In this world of community control,
where nobody seems to go to jail for anything in
this town anymore, why not name the judge and give
(06:24):
them credit for sentencing and putting away someone who took
a life. I'm profoundly, I mean this profoundly curious about that.
It just it's it doesn't seem normal.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
No, Like I said, I've been sitting here trying to
think of a reason why.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I can't think of any reason why not to release
the name. There's no public blowback that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
No, you wouldn't think. And again, if somebody wouldn't really
want to get upset about it, they can. They can
look up the court record. It's not a big deal.
But as a reporting entity, immediate entity, it just seems
to me that that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
All his name was really hard to spell, and they
were just like, we can't, we can't do.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
This copy and paste. Then oh, okay, news, are you done?
Are you sure? News stories over the weekend included one
that I don't think can get enough attention. As we
are finally once again talking about the Christopher Columbus statue
(07:44):
that used to be in front of ninety West broad Street,
suddenly they're talking about where it would be. And I
don't know if you heard the game plan or not,
but one of the plans for where to locate this statue,
which is apparently in some secret storage somewhere, is to
(08:05):
put it in a park situation. But the park the park
would not focus solely on Columbus. Instead, it would feature
text and artwork detailing the city's history and Columbus's controversial legacy,
including his treatment of Indigenous people. The proposed park, approximately
(08:25):
five acres inside, would be designed in a spiral around
a circular community gathering space for festivals and concerts. It
would offer river access, opportunities for water recreation, with an
emphasis on greenery, and a reflective space under a large
stained glass skylight. Visitors could choose to view the twenty
(08:51):
two foot statue from its base or from higher ground,
where they could look at the statue in the eyes.
Text about Columbus Histy Street would surround the statue. However,
the interesting part of this is that, as I was
watching various media coverage over the weekend, the park's going
to be designed so that if you don't want to
(09:13):
see the statue, you can you can completely avoid knowing
it's there. Okay, And of course there's got to be
you know, committees and meetings and a city council vote
and all that kind of stuff before they do anything.
(09:34):
During the George Floyd protest twenty twenty, the Columbus Art
Commission and the City cruise remove the statue overnight. I
found that a very very interesting quote. This, by the way,
is the coverage from WSYX. I've never heard the Columbus
Arts Commission have anything to do with this. Andy Ginther,
(09:55):
the mayor, in the middle of the night at like
four am, is who I've understood was responsible for the
decision to remove that statue from Statey Hall. No vote,
no public input, no planning meetings, no committees, no task force,
just just middle of the night statue goes bye bye.
(10:16):
Now suddenly we're talking about the Columbus Arts Council or
Art Commission, I'm sorry having something to do with this.
I was really vocal when they took it down. Resident
Miles Stickle said, we were struggling in our country to
find out what to do with these relics of these
old men who who thought we had such a high
(10:39):
regard and really did an awful things. Critics of the
statue highlighting Columbus's violent history and enslavement of Native Americans. Meanwhile,
some Italian Americans view the Statue of Art as strengthening
US Italy relations. Since July verse the twenty twenty, the
statue has been stored at an undisclosed location, so they're
(11:03):
hiding it. Basically, we take responsibility to tell the truth
about colonialism and racism, and to tell the stories of
people who've been overlooked in a race from the telling
of our history. I invite the entire community to join
us in an inclusive discussion that will allow us to
re envision how we project ourselves to the world and
create a symbolic landscape that more closely resembles our shared
(11:26):
values and aspirations for our future. The words of Mayor
Andrew Ginther, of course, in a press release, not actually
facing people, just in a press release. This project, led
by historians, indigenous architects and designers, and diversity inclusion advisors,
Diversity and Inclusion advisors. What kind of degreedy you need
to get that gig?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I don't know, but I bet it pays well.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Use see how we can do that.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Oh man.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
They use what they called conventional and restorative practices to
support the sharing of personal narratives from Columbus residents. While
State Community College also removed its statue in twenty twenty,
the Ohio State House retained its statue on Capitol Square.
Statues of Columbus have been deleted or defaced or removed
(12:11):
in cities like Boston, Saint Paul, blah blah blah. The
proposal also includes a multiple long term temporary public art
installation for city halls, campus and the surrounding areas. Here's
the thing, everything everywhere can offend someone for some reason.
More runs, and if you don't grasp that, that's your weakness.
(12:37):
In fourteen ninety two, things were a little bit different
than they are today. In seventeen seventy six, things were
a little bit different than they are today. In eighteen fifty,
things were a little bit different than they are today.
But you continue to insist on putting today's standards, and
(13:03):
they're not even standards. I shouldn't use the word standard
because they're not standard. They're fringe, today's fringe beliefs on
the things that happened hundreds of years ago, and changing
what is because why because it makes you feel better. Oh,
(13:24):
if the statue isn't there, there was never any slavery.
If that, if that monument isn't there, we never had
any sort of racial problems in this country. Yeah, if
we don't hold that up. Women have always had the
right to vote.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I haven't seen any problems since that statue has been taken.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Man, this is so ridiculous. And of course again it's
going to require you know, committees and voting with city
council and all that kind of stuff. Why why it
didn't require that to make it disappear? Why is it
required to reappear? Oh yeah, see me, see me, see me,
or maybe that's just me.
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