Gangs and being better towards one another

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
As I was pointing out, I think it was Monday night.
It's radio talk show. And while I love the interaction
with you guys on social media, it did did. It's
a radio talk show, so feel free to call. I've
got like eleven different threads that were going during that break,
people sending me, well, here's how we should do executions.
I think we should do this. Here's how they do it.
Here here's a oh which which is you know, wonderful points.

(00:24):
But it doesn't it doesn't help me with the radio show. So, Ohio,
it looks like there's conversation now to to at least
hopefully begin the process of coming up with a new method,
a new accepted method. I think there should be multiple methods,
quite frankly, and I've said before I here's here's my deal.

(00:44):
If somebody and I would you know how they need
super majority in Congress to do some things like not
shut down the government. If there is a super uh,
a super majority vote by a jury. Like let's say
your found guilt guilty, you're guilty of murder, but then
there you're you're like, you know, extra super duper guilty

(01:07):
of murder because they they see you you're you're on
video doing it. There's thirty five eyewitnesses that pointed you out.
You left DNA fingerprints and and your dirty tennis shoes
at the scene of the murder, and the victim lived
just long enough to say this is who killed me.
There's no doubt that you are the murderer. If you

(01:27):
have that kind of super majority guilty verdict. I say,
whatever way you killed your victim, that's fine. If you
that's how you should go. Does that sound crazy to you?
Does that sound vengeful? Does that sound nasty? Does that
sound insane? Because if so, it's probably me. I'm asking
you because I trust you. Does that sound crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
No, it sounds rational. I mean, to be honest, I
get it. I really get it.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
You you kill somebody by, you know, by you know,
a shot a gun. Okay, that's how you go. If
you're one of those sick ohs that you know, turns
people into puzzle pieces and stuff like that, that's how
you go.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
But how do we We got to get the people
to do that, though? What do you mean, like, we
gotta get the We gotta find the people. Like if
somebody cuts somebody's head off and then uses it as
a soccer ball downstairs in their basement for while, Like,
we got to find a guy to do that.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
What do you mean somebody who would inflict that penalty?

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Right right?

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yes, I contact contact the relative of the victim. Okay, seriously,
if you sneak up on the victim and you stab
them to death. Uh, if dad wants the honor, I say,
put you in a room with dad and give him
a knife. Why not, man? Why why must we be
so civil to those who are so uncivil toward us?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
No, I get it. I was just wondering who would
do the uh.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Do the act? Yeah, I guarantee you there were people
out there who would be willing to fulfill that, especially
because there's absolutely no way. You heard somebody I love
you you hate destroyed the life of somebody I love.
Given the opportunity to inflict that punishment upon them, there's
a pretty good chance I would take you up on that.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah. We could reduce murder that way too, if we
had like some psycho path people who were like, I'll
do it.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, I don't care, yeah, or just take you know,
everybody everybody who want I said, this is something I
said along like back in the nineties, back when they
were talking about the gangs in the city of Columbus,
we had gangs with the short North posse, and we
had the people were talking about the crips and the
Bloods trying to come from the West Coast and establish
here in Columbus. We had all these streak gang probably.

(03:36):
I said, look, it's Columbus, Ohio. Before this gets carried away,
here's what you do. You go round up the gangs
of Columbus, Ohio. You take them out to Compton and
let them off the bus right there, and anybody who
gets back here can be a gang. I think it's

(03:56):
an excellent idea, but nobody wanted to take me up
on that, so they continue to grow and be what
they thought was was gang thug material do.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
The big riots at l at the summer of twenty
twenty when the other's riots and they were doing those
in LA and they tried to go to South Central
and Watts and they.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Were like don't yeah, don't even bother you even try.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
And everybody's like we're fighting for you, Like no, nobody
went there.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
And you get back, you get to be a gang
because I'm basically what I was saying, you got a
bunch of a bunch of little wooses out there in Columbus,
Ohio that stole grandpa's gun from his military war chest.
And uh, and they think they're a gang. No, they weren't,
not back then, but nothing was done. So now you
have what you have, which is pretty much daily shootings
and Colonia's assaults and homicides in Columbus, Ohio. The guys

(04:48):
that are out here shooting, you say, you got gang
leaders now, and they're shooting each other. Here we go,
City of Columbus, Golden Gloves. We can put it right
there in front of city Hall. Since there's no longer
a Christopher Columbus statue there, Let's put a ring there
and and that they get to be, you know, the
king of the city. Why not take all the gangs
and have them send their designee and have a Golden

(05:12):
Gloves Championship. I would much rather see them with gloves
on and a ring beating the crap out of each
other than throwing bullets across the street where I may
be driving the next day. Give them a sense of honor, accomplishment,
and dignity. Give them a reason to up to be
better next year than they were this year. If they
are not the winner this year of those golden gloves,

(05:35):
why don't see how a spark is going to solve problem. Yeah,
it comes from the same brain children that brought us
midnight basketball. For gosh sakes, what that was one of
the things Columbus said midnight basketball to We're going to
keep the bad kids off the street by having midnight basketball.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
No, you have to organize the teams, give them something
to play for.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
First of all, the bus don't need to be out
at midnight. But yeah, that was one of the things
Columbus has done over the years. And I was actually
involved in the early days of midnight basketball because you know,
it was the nineties. You were going to try anything,
and I thought no. I actually worked with the Department
of Public Safety as far as basically advertising marketing, getting

(06:20):
the word out there what they were doing. And you know,
it was the early days of crime in Columbus as
far as what we are seeing now, and I wanted
to do what I could. They asked me if I
would help, so I said yes, And it turned out
to be a fluke. I served was it Lashutka, that

(06:40):
was mayor? I think it was Lashutka. When I served
the City of Columbus Commission on Ethics and Values. I
served on that body. I don't even think they have
a commission on ethics and values, now what would it do.
But when the city called yes, I did tend to
end because it's my hometown. I believe that if I

(07:02):
had something to offer that might make it better, I
should do that. When when your community, your city, or
whatever some cases, your country calls out to you and
says you bring something to the table that will benefit
your fellow man, your fellow Columbus site or Ohioan or

(07:23):
American or whatever, we're asking you to give that of
yourself to make something better for all of these people.
I think it's incoment upon you an answer that called
politics aside, politics aside, and that was during a I
want to say it was Lashutka was the mayor. However, however,

(07:45):
the director of Public Safety that I was working with
was Stephanie high Tower, and Stephanie I got along great. Seriously,
I liked Stephanie Hyge Tower a lot. She's president or
CEO over at the Urban League now, and I have
to say she's she's different now than I recall her

(08:08):
being back then.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Was she married a high tower from no Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Stevity was famous of her own accord as an olympian,
she was she was one of the best conditioned, fastest women.
I mean she was like flow Joe fast. She was.
She was impressive, fair enough and uh yeah, I to
this day I can't say something bad about her. I criticize.

(08:36):
I got upset when she was president of the Klamas
City school Board and her kids were in private school.
I thought that was wrong. You cannot be talking about
Levy's and how we need to support the school system
when your kids are in private school. And that's not
I hate you. That doesn't mean you're That just means
I completely disagree with with that decision you made. But

(08:59):
I worked with a lot of and these were the
early days. I was working in music radio, black radio actually,
and so again I considered it important incumbent upon me
to answer these calls because they say, hey, man, you know,
all these people are listening to you every morning, and
these kids are in the car and a way to
school listening to you every morning, and we need you

(09:20):
to help. And I was there. I've always considered this
job not only you know, a job but a responsibility.
And I wish, honestly, I wish we were back in
those days because I did not I did not feel
so alone in that point of view. Most of the
people in this business knew that not only were we

(09:43):
here to do what we do, but also to try
to make a difference. And that was in the days
we still had the telethons. We had, you know, Easter
cels over at Channel four and ABC six had the
Muscular District re telethon, and whenever they would call, hey
can you do the phone bank? The celebrity p absolutely absolutely.
I went down there anytime they called, and it was

(10:05):
it was great because you felt like, hey, maybe maybe
me being here can make it extra hundred bucks for
Easter Seals this year. And they don't even they don't
call on you anymore, just saying we were a lot
more apt to answer the call and a lot more
apt to be asked thirty years ago than we are today.

(10:26):
Two six number e two n WTV, And I got
Denny's standing by here. Denny, what's what's on your mind?
You're on six NATVN.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Hey, Jeff, you do a great job.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I appreciate it. Thank you, sir, I'm the old farmer.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
I'm the old farmer that got the pedicure that you can't.
I had to make sure of them.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, you're pretty little toes in your big farmer boots.
I love it.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
But anyway, you know, O Ron White kind of said
the same thing you did. They kind of got one
hundred witnesses all the evidence of DNA in Texas. You
go to the front of the line, you're gonna die,
you know. And I had an uncle worked a higher reformatory,

(11:10):
and he used to lead him at the old prison
down there to the electric chair, and he told some stories.
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I actually would not have a problem with us setting
up a court system that is specifically a death court
so that we don't have to go through criminal court
or anything else. It's just a series of appellate levels
for death penalty cases so we can get them over
with quick, fast and in a hurry. This this twenty
years before you get sentenced as bs.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Oh yeah, and the lawyers are making bunches a bunch
of the more money off of it. I'll amount of
the taxpayers for paying for the the person that.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Killed somebody's family, yep. And the end. You know, you've
got to go through this. This is holiday season realizing
somebody you love is no longer there, but that person
is still there, and every year until they are gone,
you're gonna have to think about the fact that your
loved one is gone and they are still there. They
are continuing to be there year after year. That that
is cool and unusual punishment on the families and the

(12:12):
friends of the victims.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Yes, I agree. Well, Chuck, you do a fantastic job.
And that that duke guy you got on Saturday morning
seem to be doing pretty good too.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
So you mean you mean that the open open phones,
little troublodite bearded guy.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Right, Yeah, that's the one.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, I know, he doesn't do half bad. I appreciate you, Denny,
thanks very much for the call. He's even got a
thanks from him. All right, God take care, buddy. Yes,
are you doing open phones this week?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
No, I'm actually at Ella's. Uh it's her birthday, so
I'm filling in for her. So I'm actually producing it
this week.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh, okay, this.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Is Saturday, her birthday. Yeah, that's the actual day. Yes, Oh,
we got to get her something.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I know, I already got her Uh oh, you didn't.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Even ask me if I wanted to go in on it.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I didn't get her anything. I was trying to make
a joke, but.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Oh, okay, you we got to get her a little
something something, Yeah, for sure, but really, seriously, I just
again this, see this is how I am. And I've
actually asked our office manager and they won't give me
an answer. I'm one of those people love to know
everybody's birthdays, uh, you know, including spouse and kids and stuff.
That's you. So much of your life is intertwined with

(13:26):
one another that it would be nice to, you know, say,
oh my gosh, I walked in here and and somebody
thought enough of me to you know, left a a
birthday card for my wife or one of my kids
or something on the desk. That's just the niceties of life.
I miss all of those.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
I mean, I hear you. I don't want you to
know any more about me than you do.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I've got plenty because your mom is my friend.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
That's true. I have no regret.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I know lots about you, and you've you've snuck up
on me and and then I come in my birthday
I'm like, oh my gosh, really sack. I don't know.
If we were just more like that in our own
little circles, maybe those circles would grow and we wouldn't
be a bunch of evil, hypocritical, hate and everything about
life type of people. Just between two or three of

(14:15):
us at a time, maybe that virus could spread