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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Did you have a nice Thanksgiving Zacchary?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yeah, it was about how about you.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
I'm assuming you traveled down south of the Ohio border. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah, it was a good time.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Everybody, big family gathering.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, it was a good family Saturday Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I want, I want to I already did it privately.
I will do it publicly as well, apologize to you
for missing your birthday. Had Facebook not let me know, Noah,
like eleven twenty that night, I would not have known
it was your birthday. And I feel crummy from missing it.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's not don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I am because you're always so kind and so sweet,
and you got me something from my birthday, and and
I didn't even know it was your birthday, and I
feel terrible about that.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I think it's I think it's okay, not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't think it is. What are you? Are you
over thirty? Now? Have you crossed the thirty thirty one?
Oh you're thirty one? Just cross the thirty Okay? Yeah,
but yeah, I hope it was a happy birthday for
you to an addition to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I very much appreciate it. How was yours?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah? Actually, actually it was pretty dag gone nice.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I saw some pictures that did.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Like Blazer was talking about it earlier, you had a
lot of people, it seemed like, and it just seemed
like a big happy time.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It was. It was, and I had. I complimented the
Queen probably fifty times after the meal. She Wow, everything,
everything was perfect. I mean every she.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh my god, Oh you say she's a great cook.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
She has no confidence in her ability to cook, and
yet she brings magic out of the kitchen all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And the turkey absolutely perfect. She did this thing with
the deviled eggs with like mincing up onion and dill
pickle and mixing in with deviled eggs, which was just
a whole new dimension to deviled eggs. The stuffing, she
actually made the stuffing because I told her, you know,
the holidays are not for stove top. You gotta have
real stuffing. So she's like, I've never done this before.
(01:59):
It was amazing and it was good. Yeah, this woman
made me like green bean casserole for goodness sake. If
you can do that, you are a magician in the kitchen.
So and I hope that I hope that everyone whose
ears are upon us right now had an enjoyable Thanksgiving
and a meaningful Thanksgiving, and and and counted their blessings,
(02:21):
as they say, because even in the midst of crap
we have them. Sometimes they're harder to see than they
are at other times, but the blessings are always there.
And I hope that I truly mean that, that you
got the opportunity to be thankful, to think about those
things in your life that are good and and are
(02:43):
better this year than they were last year, and hopefully
will be even better next year than they were this year.
I wish that for all of us, I really do.
And Mark and I were joking with the Alex earlier
about the gas prices or not. It was with the
Congressman Jordan talking about the gas prices and so forth,
and Mark said he saw buck ninety seven a gallon
when he was in Detroit over the weekend. No, right,
(03:06):
And I'm thinking, man, with the Kroger points, I could
get gas for ninety seven cents a gallon right now. Wow. Wow,
that harkens me back to nineteen eighty five. Wow, I
feel like buying a hummer just so I got something
with a big tank on it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I'm so excited for like, I'm so glad that gas
prices are down.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
This is it's just the car that I have now
I have to use eighty nine. So it just feels
like even when it comes down, it's back to where
it was.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah at that so I'm just mad.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And you have to balance that out depending upon the
price of gas, because like I had one of those
ones where you had to use the higher octane, but
I would buy the bottle of octane boost for like
three p fifty three ninety five something like that and
put that in with the eighty seven to boost the
octane by three or four points. Oh okay, And it
actually because the price of the gas, it was actually
(04:03):
more beneficial for me to do that than it was
to actually buy the higher octane gas fair enough and gas.
You know, nobody really publicizes their gasoline these days, and
maybe you guys, it used to be, you know, before
Speedway bottom up, there was Super America, and Super America
used to talk about their clean gasoline. Marathon would advertise
(04:26):
their American product. I remember when Shell back in the
early eighties came out with SU two thousand, which I
used to run in my seventy one Chaville, and then
they came at what was the Ultra ninety three I
think it was. Then over on the west side you
(04:48):
could get something you could not run this straight by
the way in your car, something called Turbo Blue, which
was a racing gasoline, and a lot of guys with
the hot rods when I was a youngster would go
over there and get Turbo Blue, and they do like
a quarter tank at Turbo Blue and the rest of it.
They would put the you know, like the SU two
thousand or Ultra ninety three or something in. But people
don't even talk about the quality or origins or anything
(05:11):
else of their gasolines these days. They I think they
realize everybody's just kind of looking for the same the
same thing, which is the lowest possible price to fill
their tank.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yes, unless you have an electric car? Does that? Do
they have any like?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Uh like, when you put in your Tesla or whatever,
you go, this is a cheaper charging state I have.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You know, I don't know. I'm not sure how people
pay for those charging stations quite fir I mean, I
know you use a debit card or credit card, but
I don't know if it's priced per kill a lot
or I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I know that you can pay extra to supercharge it,
which means it'll charge faster.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
As we were talking about this show Landman that's on
Paramount right now, Billy Bob Thornton works for an oil company,
a small oil company. Yes, And last night as I
was watching, I think it was episode three, he's got
an attorney out there because they're in the midst of
a legal situation, and he shows her the wind turbines
and she's intrigued that the oil company is investing in
(06:10):
green energy, and he clarified to her, No, it's not
green energy, it's alternative energy, because there's no electricity out here.
You know how much electricity it takes to power one
of these pumps. You know how much concrete it takes.
We go four feet into the earth. You cover a
third of an acre with the base of this thing.
It's four hundred sum feet high. We use more to
(06:31):
build one of these things then they will ever make.
They will never ever reduce their carbon footprint. What it
costs in petroleum to build one can't be offset by
the energy they produce. In their twenty year lifespan. We
will be still negative you're using more petroleum products to
(06:56):
put this thing up than you are. So it's not
an alternative. It's nothing it. Believe me, if it was X,
I would have them all over the planet. But it's not.
We need him out here because there's no electric lines.
We're in the middle of nowhere drilling for oil. And
I'll tell you, man, it's a great show. The language
(07:17):
is strong, as are most things on the streaming things,
but it is Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I've only got one episode into it.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh you watched the first one already. Was that opening
scene with the bag over his head not amazing?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, as soon as I was like, what in the
world's going and then I heard him talk, and I'm like, oh,
there's that voice and the way, like the confidence where
it's yes, yeah, like this is what's gonna happen, blah
blah blah.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Either way, we're gonna get what we want.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
We are going to get what we want. Yes, Oh
my gosh, what a show. So while I'm waiting for
Tulsa King to start over again with their new season,
I will be watching land Man, And I saw an
announcement today. If you watch Tulsa King, they introduced Samuel L.
Jackson in the last couple of episodes of this season,
and he is he departed at the end of the season,
(07:59):
said I'm a head on down to New Orleans and
uh because he's got a hide out. A contract was
taken out on stallone and Samuel Jackson was supposed to
kill him. Well, he's not going to do it, so
he's going down to New Orleans to kind of you know.
He said, if you did it in Tulsa, maybe I
can do it in Orleans. Well, Nola King is coming
out now, Nola being New Orleans, Louisiana. I'll watch that
(08:20):
and that'll be Samuel Jackson's version of Tulsa King. I
guess yeah, it's man got some good stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Up TV's gotten so more in depth.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah. Absolutely. I got happy passing two forty a gallon
today and over the holiday weekend it was coming down,
down down, I got I filled up last time on
uh Friday, I think it was I had seven cents
a gallon off on the Queen's card at a speedway
because she goes in there and buy Slurpey's or whatever.
(08:50):
So I got seven cents a gallon. So I paid
two forty two a gallon, and I was real happy
about that. Then I saw two forty. Today I'm I
am enthusiasiastic of things to come. I really am Tony
standing by with something here on gas. Let's get you
on eight two eighty six the number. By the way, Tony,
you're on sixth en double the ETV at height.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Hello, Chuck uh, maybe you can help me figure something
out here. I'm fifty six years old, so been around
for a few years now. But how is it now
that diesel fuel costs more than gas when back in
(09:29):
the day, the seventies, the eighties and nineties, diesel fuel
is always cheaper than gas because it's just the eye
products of it, right, Because my dad and I had
our own livestock feed business and the moving company that
I used to work for. The more diesel fuel went up,
the more we add to add an extra charge for
(09:51):
delivery for that fuel surcharge. So if that got dropped,
wouldn't our prices of our stuff at the stores.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Come The industry that's using that diesel is paying more
for everything, including the diesel itself. And you know, there's
no no logic behind it except for the fact that
we need it and they've got it, and so they're
going to charge everything they can. The trucking industry and
the railroads are paying all kinds of you know, fees
(10:23):
and so forth that they were not paying back then.
And diesel fuel, which just kind of hits to ride
on that and continues to go up. It should be
it should be at least just a little more expensive
than gasoline. Not when you're seeing, you know, a dollar
eighty two dollars difference in a price per gallon, that's
(10:44):
a little crazy. Because remember they were trying to sell
us on diesel back in the eighties. The Volkswagen Rabbit
diesel was alleged to get like eighty seven miles per
gallon or something stupid like that, because that was the
wave of the future. I personally never liked the way
diesel engines sounded in cars. I expect a semi to
sound that way. I don't want a car to sound
(11:04):
that way. And they said, well, you'll get more. It
might cost just a little bit more than gasoline, but
the miles per gallon will be so much more that
it will all set it that that hasn't come to be.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
No, And it's always you know, you figure we got
plenty of gas, and with the diesel fuel being a
gas by product of that, there's not a shortage on gas,
so you wouldn't think there'd be a shortage on the
diesel fuel. But it's just the way for somebody to
line their pocket.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yep. Absolutely, that's all they are doing to is line
in those pockets because as I said, they've got it,
we need it and they know it. And same thing
with gasoline. When the summer comes, when the weather comes
and people start driving more, it'll go up wintertime warming
up your car, if we get like a really deep freeze,
(11:59):
tip down ten degrees or less for a few weeks,
Trust me, it's going to go up because they know
people will be idly warming up their cars, and the
price will go up because they know we're going to
consume it. We have to consume it. And I I
don't know, as long as it's reasonable, I don't see.
(12:20):
I don't think profit's a dirty word. I don't think
profit is a bad thing. Abusive profit is a different matter.
When people will just rake you over the coals, that's
a different matter. But there's absolutely nothing wrong with being
in business to make money. That's why you go into business.
But there does come that time when and see, how
(12:41):
do you walk that line. Well, I don't want government
necessarily controlling that's not good. That's not what capitalism is
all about. On the other hand, I don't know that
I can count on the common decency of my fellow
man or my American corporations. So we're stuck in the
middle this tug of war, and whoever whoever pulls the
(13:03):
hardest wins us for that round. But I'll tell you,
if if energy is cheap, whether it's gasoline, electricity, natural gas,
if that's cheap, everything else gets cheap. That's the key
to the whole bull of wax and the uh you know,
the electricity. Remember when Barack Obama was taking office, he
(13:27):
said he's gonna make it. You know, it would be
financially impossible for anybody to start an electrical supply company.
It just wouldn't pan out. Because they wanted to get
rid of electricity, coal, fire power plants and all this stuff.
Without any way of replacing the electricity they wanted to
(13:47):
get rid of. There is utopian and then they're stooped hopedia.
And that's that was stoop topia. If you don't have
a new plan, don't get rid of the old plan
that's working.
Did you have a nice Thanksgiving Zacchary?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yeah, it was about how about you.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
I'm assuming you traveled down south of the Ohio border. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah, it was a good time.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Everybody, big family gathering.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, it was a good family Saturday Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I want, I want to I already did it privately.
I will do it publicly as well, apologize to you
for missing your birthday. Had Facebook not let me know, Noah,
like eleven twenty that night, I would not have known
it was your birthday. And I feel crummy from missing it.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's not don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I am because you're always so kind and so sweet,
and you got me something from my birthday, and and
I didn't even know it was your birthday, and I
feel terrible about that.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I think it's I think it's okay, not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't think it is. What are you? Are you
over thirty? Now? Have you crossed the thirty thirty one?
Oh you're thirty one? Just cross the thirty Okay? Yeah,
but yeah, I hope it was a happy birthday for
you to an addition to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I very much appreciate it. How was yours?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah? Actually, actually it was pretty dag gone nice.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I saw some pictures that did.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Like Blazer was talking about it earlier, you had a
lot of people, it seemed like, and it just seemed
like a big happy time.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It was. It was, and I had. I complimented the
Queen probably fifty times after the meal. She Wow, everything,
everything was perfect. I mean every she.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh my god, Oh you say she's a great cook.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
She has no confidence in her ability to cook, and
yet she brings magic out of the kitchen all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And the turkey absolutely perfect. She did this thing with
the deviled eggs with like mincing up onion and dill
pickle and mixing in with deviled eggs, which was just
a whole new dimension to deviled eggs. The stuffing, she
actually made the stuffing because I told her, you know,
the holidays are not for stove top. You gotta have
real stuffing. So she's like, I've never done this before.
(01:59):
It was amazing and it was good. Yeah, this woman
made me like green bean casserole for goodness sake. If
you can do that, you are a magician in the kitchen.
So and I hope that I hope that everyone whose
ears are upon us right now had an enjoyable Thanksgiving
and a meaningful Thanksgiving, and and and counted their blessings,
(02:21):
as they say, because even in the midst of crap
we have them. Sometimes they're harder to see than they
are at other times, but the blessings are always there.
And I hope that I truly mean that, that you
got the opportunity to be thankful, to think about those
things in your life that are good and and are
(02:43):
better this year than they were last year, and hopefully
will be even better next year than they were this year.
I wish that for all of us, I really do.
And Mark and I were joking with the Alex earlier
about the gas prices or not. It was with the
Congressman Jordan talking about the gas prices and so forth,
and Mark said he saw buck ninety seven a gallon
when he was in Detroit over the weekend. No, right,
(03:06):
And I'm thinking, man, with the Kroger points, I could
get gas for ninety seven cents a gallon right now. Wow. Wow,
that harkens me back to nineteen eighty five. Wow, I
feel like buying a hummer just so I got something
with a big tank on it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I'm so excited for like, I'm so glad that gas
prices are down.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
This is it's just the car that I have now
I have to use eighty nine. So it just feels
like even when it comes down, it's back to where
it was.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah at that so I'm just mad.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And you have to balance that out depending upon the
price of gas, because like I had one of those
ones where you had to use the higher octane, but
I would buy the bottle of octane boost for like
three p fifty three ninety five something like that and
put that in with the eighty seven to boost the
octane by three or four points. Oh okay, And it
actually because the price of the gas, it was actually
(04:03):
more beneficial for me to do that than it was
to actually buy the higher octane gas fair enough and gas.
You know, nobody really publicizes their gasoline these days, and
maybe you guys, it used to be, you know, before
Speedway bottom up, there was Super America, and Super America
used to talk about their clean gasoline. Marathon would advertise
(04:26):
their American product. I remember when Shell back in the
early eighties came out with SU two thousand, which I
used to run in my seventy one Chaville, and then
they came at what was the Ultra ninety three I
think it was. Then over on the west side you
(04:48):
could get something you could not run this straight by
the way in your car, something called Turbo Blue, which
was a racing gasoline, and a lot of guys with
the hot rods when I was a youngster would go
over there and get Turbo Blue, and they do like
a quarter tank at Turbo Blue and the rest of it.
They would put the you know, like the SU two
thousand or Ultra ninety three or something in. But people
don't even talk about the quality or origins or anything
(05:11):
else of their gasolines these days. They I think they
realize everybody's just kind of looking for the same the
same thing, which is the lowest possible price to fill
their tank.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yes, unless you have an electric car? Does that? Do
they have any like?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Uh like, when you put in your Tesla or whatever,
you go, this is a cheaper charging state I have.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You know, I don't know. I'm not sure how people
pay for those charging stations quite fir I mean, I
know you use a debit card or credit card, but
I don't know if it's priced per kill a lot
or I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I know that you can pay extra to supercharge it,
which means it'll charge faster.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
As we were talking about this show Landman that's on
Paramount right now, Billy Bob Thornton works for an oil company,
a small oil company. Yes, And last night as I
was watching, I think it was episode three, he's got
an attorney out there because they're in the midst of
a legal situation, and he shows her the wind turbines
and she's intrigued that the oil company is investing in
(06:10):
green energy, and he clarified to her, No, it's not
green energy, it's alternative energy, because there's no electricity out here.
You know how much electricity it takes to power one
of these pumps. You know how much concrete it takes.
We go four feet into the earth. You cover a
third of an acre with the base of this thing.
It's four hundred sum feet high. We use more to
(06:31):
build one of these things then they will ever make.
They will never ever reduce their carbon footprint. What it
costs in petroleum to build one can't be offset by
the energy they produce. In their twenty year lifespan. We
will be still negative you're using more petroleum products to
(06:56):
put this thing up than you are. So it's not
an alternative. It's nothing it. Believe me, if it was X,
I would have them all over the planet. But it's not.
We need him out here because there's no electric lines.
We're in the middle of nowhere drilling for oil. And
I'll tell you, man, it's a great show. The language
(07:17):
is strong, as are most things on the streaming things,
but it is Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I've only got one episode into it.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh you watched the first one already. Was that opening
scene with the bag over his head not amazing?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, as soon as I was like, what in the
world's going and then I heard him talk, and I'm like, oh,
there's that voice and the way, like the confidence where
it's yes, yeah, like this is what's gonna happen, blah
blah blah.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Either way, we're gonna get what we want.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
We are going to get what we want. Yes, Oh
my gosh, what a show. So while I'm waiting for
Tulsa King to start over again with their new season,
I will be watching land Man, And I saw an
announcement today. If you watch Tulsa King, they introduced Samuel L.
Jackson in the last couple of episodes of this season,
and he is he departed at the end of the season,
(07:59):
said I'm a head on down to New Orleans and
uh because he's got a hide out. A contract was
taken out on stallone and Samuel Jackson was supposed to
kill him. Well, he's not going to do it, so
he's going down to New Orleans to kind of you know.
He said, if you did it in Tulsa, maybe I
can do it in Orleans. Well, Nola King is coming
out now, Nola being New Orleans, Louisiana. I'll watch that
(08:20):
and that'll be Samuel Jackson's version of Tulsa King. I
guess yeah, it's man got some good stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Up TV's gotten so more in depth.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah. Absolutely. I got happy passing two forty a gallon
today and over the holiday weekend it was coming down,
down down, I got I filled up last time on
uh Friday, I think it was I had seven cents
a gallon off on the Queen's card at a speedway
because she goes in there and buy Slurpey's or whatever.
(08:50):
So I got seven cents a gallon. So I paid
two forty two a gallon, and I was real happy
about that. Then I saw two forty. Today I'm I
am enthusiasiastic of things to come. I really am Tony
standing by with something here on gas. Let's get you
on eight two eighty six the number. By the way, Tony,
you're on sixth en double the ETV at height.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Hello, Chuck uh, maybe you can help me figure something
out here. I'm fifty six years old, so been around
for a few years now. But how is it now
that diesel fuel costs more than gas when back in
(09:29):
the day, the seventies, the eighties and nineties, diesel fuel
is always cheaper than gas because it's just the eye
products of it, right, Because my dad and I had
our own livestock feed business and the moving company that
I used to work for. The more diesel fuel went up,
the more we add to add an extra charge for
(09:51):
delivery for that fuel surcharge. So if that got dropped,
wouldn't our prices of our stuff at the stores.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Come The industry that's using that diesel is paying more
for everything, including the diesel itself. And you know, there's
no no logic behind it except for the fact that
we need it and they've got it, and so they're
going to charge everything they can. The trucking industry and
the railroads are paying all kinds of you know, fees
(10:23):
and so forth that they were not paying back then.
And diesel fuel, which just kind of hits to ride
on that and continues to go up. It should be
it should be at least just a little more expensive
than gasoline. Not when you're seeing, you know, a dollar
eighty two dollars difference in a price per gallon, that's
(10:44):
a little crazy. Because remember they were trying to sell
us on diesel back in the eighties. The Volkswagen Rabbit
diesel was alleged to get like eighty seven miles per
gallon or something stupid like that, because that was the
wave of the future. I personally never liked the way
diesel engines sounded in cars. I expect a semi to
sound that way. I don't want a car to sound
(11:04):
that way. And they said, well, you'll get more. It
might cost just a little bit more than gasoline, but
the miles per gallon will be so much more that
it will all set it that that hasn't come to be.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
No, And it's always you know, you figure we got
plenty of gas, and with the diesel fuel being a
gas by product of that, there's not a shortage on gas,
so you wouldn't think there'd be a shortage on the
diesel fuel. But it's just the way for somebody to
line their pocket.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yep. Absolutely, that's all they are doing to is line
in those pockets because as I said, they've got it,
we need it and they know it. And same thing
with gasoline. When the summer comes, when the weather comes
and people start driving more, it'll go up wintertime warming
up your car, if we get like a really deep freeze,
(11:59):
tip down ten degrees or less for a few weeks,
Trust me, it's going to go up because they know
people will be idly warming up their cars, and the
price will go up because they know we're going to
consume it. We have to consume it. And I I
don't know, as long as it's reasonable, I don't see.
(12:20):
I don't think profit's a dirty word. I don't think
profit is a bad thing. Abusive profit is a different matter.
When people will just rake you over the coals, that's
a different matter. But there's absolutely nothing wrong with being
in business to make money. That's why you go into business.
But there does come that time when and see, how
(12:41):
do you walk that line. Well, I don't want government
necessarily controlling that's not good. That's not what capitalism is
all about. On the other hand, I don't know that
I can count on the common decency of my fellow
man or my American corporations. So we're stuck in the
middle this tug of war, and whoever whoever pulls the
(13:03):
hardest wins us for that round. But I'll tell you,
if if energy is cheap, whether it's gasoline, electricity, natural gas,
if that's cheap, everything else gets cheap. That's the key
to the whole bull of wax and the uh you know,
the electricity. Remember when Barack Obama was taking office, he
(13:27):
said he's gonna make it. You know, it would be
financially impossible for anybody to start an electrical supply company.
It just wouldn't pan out. Because they wanted to get
rid of electricity, coal, fire power plants and all this stuff.
Without any way of replacing the electricity they wanted to
(13:47):
get rid of. There is utopian and then they're stooped hopedia.
And that's that was stoop topia. If you don't have
a new plan, don't get rid of the old plan
that's working.
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