Jay Greene of The Heritage Foundation

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Greeting sanitations of welcome my friends to another edition of
The Power Hour.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm Chuck Douglas.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
You know who you are.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
We take it from there.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
We get one hour together, which means ions really fast
and you must listen even faster. My number eight two
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before I get out of here today, one more thing
I hate about Apple phones. I just I discovered this
and it's just, I mean, it's a whole list, a
whole list.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm grateful to have a phone.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
And a mode of communication and staying in touch with
the world, to the smartphone stuff and all that, but
how how anybody prefers iPhones to androids is beyond me.
I just and every day it seems like there's another
reason for me to despise Apple phones. So I want
to share that. Also, I've got to talk about this

(00:56):
story out of morro County and this deputy. I've I've
talking about it so far this afternoon because I did
not want to, uh, I didn't want to UNLEASHO on
you too hard. I mean I already I already tore
you apart over the fact that we can have a
blasted taco festival in this city without people getting into fistfights. H.
But this is uh, this is something that's been weighing

(01:16):
on me since I heard the story. And uh, I
just I've got some thoughts I want to share, And
of course your phone calls always welcome with that as well.
Donald Trump is in the news every day for one
thing or another. Usually it's bad because it's the news,
it's the media, it's the manibula manipulative mindset that these

(01:36):
people are in. They've got to find some way to uh,
you know, continue to convince you Orange man bad.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
And as I've.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Said repeatedly, uh, because so many of my Democrat friends
want to tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
You know, you guys are just a cult. You just
believe walks on what.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I don't love Donald Trump. I just love America more
than I hate any person. And up you, on the
other hand, as a a leftist liberal nutcase. You know,
you hate him so much that nothing, nothing good will
ever pass your frontal cortex and submerge itself into your
brain and make any.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Sense to you.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
And that makes me sad, because there are good things
about people that even you don't like. And I've tried
to set the standard. And you know, there were times
when Joe Biden had a moment of coherence and he
did something that I thought, Okay, that's that's productive. There
are times when Barack Obama did some things that were productive.
In fact, I continued, I was outraged when Barack Obama,

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as President of the United States, stood on a stage
in South Africa and had some fake translator ten feet
behind it. There's no way anybody should have able to
get that close to our president. Whether I liked him
or not, it didn't matter. But I stood up for him,
and I just screamed from the highest radio mountaintop that

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the Secret Service has to do a better job. I
defended Michelle when she was taken a task for saying
she was jipped, because people say.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
That's a racist term. You can't say that's racist. Jipis
from Gypsy. It's shut up. I credit Bill Clinton. Although
the economy was largely artificial based on the dot com phenomenon,
he did put in place policies that sprung our economy
to life. He did put in place work fair regulations

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which forced people who were receiving public assistance to go
out and do something at least to try to provide
for themselves to some extent before getting those government benefits.
I can admit that. And I am a registered Republican.
I am a supporter of what Donald Trump is doing
in the White House, and I am a lover of
this great thing we call the United States of America.

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That's simple. If Orange Man bad is your your battle
cry and you cannot see anything good that comes out
of this presidency, I feel bad for you. I really
truly do.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Now.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
One of the things that we continue to hear is
the the cuts, the cuts at Harvard. They're concentrating on
Harvard had there are several schools involved, including Colombia and UH.
But anyway, anti Semitism seems to be the banner with
which they want to uh. They want to fly this
story antise. And I don't understand anti Semitism. I don't.

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I don't get it. I it's like, you know this,
we sound like Middle Easterners fighting. Oh you know, is
it the Sekhs or is it that who knows? It's stupid.
I don't understand the whole concept of disliking somebody because.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Of their their Jewish faith or their their Jewish.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Heritage, but apparently it's out there and it's what they're
using to uh, to justify the cuts that Harvard is
seeing from federal funds. There's at least one person with
a national platform, if you will, wrote a comment piece
for US News, which the US News used to be

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and World Report. Maybe they just gave up on the
World I don't know. But his name is Jay Green,
and the headline of the article is Trump cuts to
schools like Harvard over anti semitism are justified. I want
to get him on the Legacy Retirement Group dot com
phone lines right now.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Say Hello, Jay, how.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Are you good, How are you doing? Thanks for having
me on the show.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, I appreciate you being available so quickly. I got
your working I guess in conjunction with Heritage Foundation. They
said you were available, and I couldn't believe you were
available with such short notice. But I do appreciate it.
Does happen to be on this is I said, It's
not just Harvard. There are several schools that are being
either defunded or seeing their funds minimized, and anti Semitism

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is the banner headline. It's not the only reason, but
it is the banner headline here, and you're one of
the few people with any sort of national forum that says, yeah,
this is a good idea, it's a good thing, and
President Trump has reason to do so.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Look, it is and you're right that it's not just
anti semitism, it is discrimination, frankly against whites as well
that Harvard has engaged in that other universities have engaged
in the Supreme Court issued decision in the Students for
Fair Admission case saying that these universities had been discriminating

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against Asians and whites in their admissions process and that
this was impermissible and that they could not continue. And
there's good reason to believe that they're continuing to do
those things as well. So it's it is a set
of selective universities that have adopted a worldview that there

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are different sets of rules. There's one set of rules
for people they oppressors and another set of rules for
people they consider oppressed. How they decide who's an oppressor
and who's oppressed is a whole no other thing. But
they have different rules and they're going to treat them differently.
And that's really not the American way. The American way.

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The thing we aspire to is to treat everyone the
same as individuals and by the merits of their accomplishment,
and that that is what Harvard and these other selective
universities should be doing. And that's what I think the
Trump administration is getting at in freezing funds from taxpayers
because they're violating the civil rights of their students by

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failing to treat all students equally.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
From a lat end point of view, you know, one
of the first things that popped into my mind when
this whole storyline began is why does Harvard need government
money anyway? I mean, it's full of rich people. I've
never seen and I've never understood how so many rich
white people can have problems with rich white people.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
That just gasters me.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
But what do they get, like eleven billion dollar endowment
or something.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Like it, over fifty billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
That could keep me at fast food windows for the
rest of my life.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Why do they even need federal funds?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
You know, they don't need it. They just want it
because they could take it from you. So I don't
think people understand the scale of it, but they they
have an annual operating budget of close to six billion.
So sure they have a lot of money, but man,
they have a lot of expenses too, because they live high.
And about a quarter of that six billion dollars comes

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directly or indirectly from taxpayers. So even though they're a
private university, they are getting a large chunk of their
money from hard working Americans who pay taxes so that
they can indulge whatever craziness they want to indulge. And
I'm with you, I don't see exactly why they need
all this money. And frankly, if they would simply say

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we don't want it, they'd be free to run their
university the way they want to. But because they accept
that money, they're obliged to follow certain rules. And in particular,
there's Title six of the Civil Rights Act, and the
Title six of the Civil Rights Act says that they
cannot deny someone and access to the benefits of an

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education based on race, color, or national origin, and Jews
are covered under that in the national origin clause. And
so Harvard has been violating the civil rights of Jewish students,
but they've also been violating the rights of white and
Asian students on the basis of color.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
This was framed initially as all international students, and I
think that that storyline backfired miserably and quickly, which is
why the anti semitism line became more of a headline.
But initially this they tried to make this all about
just Harvard couldn't bring in any more international students period,
which I think was probably very overturnable this because.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
So, yeah, there's a new and there's always a new thing.
You're right with Trump, and and the new thing now
is that is that Harvard has been declared ineligible for
enrolling international students starting in the fall, according to the
Department of Homeland Security because they are failing to cooperate

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with enforcement of visa rules. According to the administration, Harvard
has obtained a restraining order from a judge in Boston
and the matter will ultimately be settled in courts. But
that is also a legitimate dispute, which is that Harvard, uh,
you know, has about a third of their enrollment for

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overseas from overseas, which is consistent with other selective universities
where it's between a quarter and a half of their
enrollment is foreign students, and they need to help the
US government in enforcing visa rules. That is, when the
students misbehave, if they violate the law, if they break

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rules that result in suspension or expulsion, the universities have
to tell the government, so the government knows to revoke
the visas of those students and deport them. And it's
pretty clear that selective universities have been shielding their international
students from the consequences of their actions simply by not

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disciplining them. So they don't have the protesters get arrested
for fear that international students will get arrested and then deported.
They don't discipline international students with suspension or expulsion for
fear that they'll be deported. And the problem with that,
in addition to undermining the ability of the government to

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enforce visa rules, is that these same international students who
are breaking rules, and it's not the average Internet students,
it's just a critical mass of bad actors. But they're
organized to go after Jews and they've been doing this
at a number of selective universities, and they've been getting
away with it because the universities are reluctant to enforce

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their rules because they don't want those students to have
their visas revoked. And that's how these two issues are connected.
And it's legitimate of the Trump administration to want from Harvard,
and they'll soon want from other universities disciplinary records so
they could see whether international students in fact have broken
rules that require their visas to be revoked.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Miss Jay Green joining me right now. By the way,
we're down the last ninety seconds. But as I was
bringing you on, I don't know if you were listening
to you or not. I rarely listen to me, but
I was talking about the whole concept of anti Semitism.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
What is it? I mean?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Do you you don't believe in Jesus, so we hate you?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Your ancestors come from Israel? So what's the base? I
don't get the basis of anti Semitism.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Well, it's hard to say in ninety seconds, but for
our purposes here, I think the way to recognize it
is that it's actually a canary in the coal mine
of anti Americanism with these people, these foreign students who
hate Jews and are going after Jews. It's not just
Jews they hate, it's America they hate, and the Jew
represents to them America and are more vulnerable, like the

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one they can kick. America is a little harder for
them to kick right now. But they're going after the
Jew first. But their goals are not to end with
the Jew. They have broader ambitions to go after America.
And I was listening to you before, and I agree
with you. I'd love this country, which is why I'm
concerned about ill behaving foreign students on campuses and how

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we need our universities to help the government enforce rules
on all students, including international students.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
We will get this up on the podcast page. I'm
going to link your article on my social media as well.
In the future, Jay Green, can I get you on again?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I mean, if you call the people at the Heritage Foundation,
go this guy's an idiot. But it would be wonderful
to get a chance to talk to you again in
their future.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
That sounds wonderful. I'd look forward to it.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I appreciate you, sir, have a good evening. I thank
you for your time tonight.