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August 19, 2025 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The merger between those that own Channel four WCMHTV, those
that own Channel ten WBNSTV and all of their digital frequencies,
and a couple of radio stations owned by the WBNS
Techna corporation six point two billion dollars still has to
have FCC approval. That's not guaranteed, but also not unlikely.

(00:26):
I'm not positive. I'm not sure. I'm not steadfast in
my distaste for the concept, but I'm telling you that
just instinctively, I worry about that many frequencies being controlled
by one one company in this the capital city of
the state of Ohio. That would mean essentially we have

(00:49):
two major players in town when it comes to television,
this group whatever they end up calling themselves and Sinclair,
and that's it. If any thing I'd like to see
Viacom or Comcast or what's Byron Allen's company, what's it called,
they just want to a lawsuit. Maybe they can buy something.
See some other stations come in and with digital, there's

(01:13):
no reason why we can't have Channel five and Channel
seven and Channel nine in Columbus. That's the beauty of
having digital television. You don't have that widespread anymore, which
is why you can have ten point one and ten
point two and ten point three. The digital spectrum is
completely different. But I would love to see more companies

(01:36):
coming in here, more options coming in here, not fewer.
And it does worry me. Maybe I'm alone in that though.
That's why I'm soliciting your thoughts, your opinions, you're your
concerns tonight at eight two one nine eight eight six
eight two one WTV and Mary, thanks for hanging on
you on the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Hi, Chuck, I'm not very knowledgeable and the frequency thing,
but I agree with you. I don't have a very
good feeling about it. For one, they'll just put out
the content that they want you to know. You know.
And and what happened to the monopoly laws, you know
where they can't have monopolies on Well, those.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Kind of went away during the Reagan years when they
deregulated a lot of stuff. And I mean that was
the birth of this company. When Randy Michaels formed Jcore
back in the eighties. That is the that's the company
that became the monolith that is now iHeart and it
allowed it allowed single entities to own multiple broadcast outlets

(02:42):
around the country, and they just kept growing and growing
and growing. I think at our prime, I think we
had around twelve hundred radio.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Stages, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, So yeah, that's that's one of the things that
I guess we can either blame or credit Reagan for.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
It depends on your point of view.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I'm blaming, yeah, because that's not a good thing. You know.
They shouldn't have a monopoly on all, you know, and
to give us just content that they feel that we
want to hear we should hear, or you know.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Or know you know, well, just when the reporting standards
kind of worried me.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Mary.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I don't know if you were listening yesterday, but I
was kind of upset about the story regarding this guy
convicted of murder gets twenty three years. He'll be doing
twenty three to twenty eight I believe is what the
sentence was. But I was reading the story from the
Channel ten website and nowhere in there did they mention
the judges name, which I found really odd. They referred

(03:41):
to him as the judge and as a Franklin County judge,
but never gave the name. In this age when everybody's
getting community control. We got a judge that actually sent
somebody to jail, and they don't name the judge. So
then I'm watching Channel six last night, our channel twenty eight.
I guess it was the ten o'clock news, and they
did the story on it, and they didn't mention the

(04:02):
judge's name, which I found again really odd. I would
think you either want to credit God credit or blame
this judge one or the other, depending upon again your
point of view. But it just yeah, I mean, it's
a public record, it's a court proceeding, and the judge's
name was omitted from so much in that story. Now
that's with two companies involved. What if there are only

(04:24):
two companies period? I mean, does that mean that nobody
ever anywhere stuff?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Right? And they already have their talking points where all
the stations have the same little talking points of why
you want to hear or what they want you to hear.
You know, it's just it's just ridiculous. And they need
to bring back those laws where they can't have anopolies
on things.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, especially when it comes to political issues. Mary, I
appreciate the call, thank you very much. I you know,
I always thought that was kind of just bogus lip
trap when people will talk about the talking points, marching
orders and all that kind of stuff until until Dick Cheney.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Are you old enough to remember that, Zach? What do
you mean went Dick Cheney?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
When Dick Cheney was selected to be George W. Bush's
vice president, Yes, yeah, I remember that. And Rush Limbaugh
the Great One, managed to put together or his people
put together a collage of Sunday morning programs after Cheney
was announced as the vice president. The Sunday Morning every

(05:33):
single Sunday morning program, whether they had a guest on
from the DNC or whether it was their anchors Meet
the Press or or Face the Nation or news or whatever,
every single one of them use the word gravitas.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Nobody in America.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Nobody had used the word gravitas in fifty years, but
that was the talking point word. And it was that event,
that moment in time in our history that I finally
figured out, My gosh, that stuff's for real, isn't it.

(06:14):
There really are talking points, there really are marching orders
for these people. And as I said, it wasn't just
mouthpieces for the DNC. It was the network news show
hosts and alleged reporters that were also using the word gravitas.
It was orchestrated, it was planned, it was pathetic, and

(06:37):
it took rush to bring it to our.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Attention, at least to mine.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
So, yeah, there is a coordinated effort out there, buy
some with some through some to make sure you only
get what somebody wants you to get in the way
they want you to get it when they want you
to get it, and if they don't want you to
get it, you never get it. And when you were
distribution channels are narrowed, there's even less of a chance

(07:06):
of you getting it.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I'm not comfortable with it.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
A two one ninety eight six A two to one
WTV and Ron you're on the Legacy Retirement Group dot
com phone line.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Hello, Hey, Chuck.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Hey. There was a time a few years ago when
I couldn't ford cable, so the only or internet even so,
the only Internet I had was on my phone. And
during that time I went out and I got lows
and Tennis and man. I was amazed at the array
of stuff that I could get, and that's when I
fell in love with me TV and Barnaby Jones and

(07:40):
Manne and Cannon Wow, So.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
You're you're a night out.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
You're a night out because Mannix is two am, Canon
is three am, and Barnaby Jones.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Is four am.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yep, yeah, I know because I watch them a lot too.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
I was. I was also recently unemployed during that time,
so yes, I was a night out.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
But yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Know, I think I think if they if they stay
a limit that stuff, that's that's a shame because yeah,
the broader stuff that we have, that's that's free out there,
that's paid for by advertising, like the good old days.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
We need to add more of that.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
And if they're you know what, if they don't survive,
if there is no advertising dollar coming in, it's because
there's no audience. And if there's no audience, then they
need to go by the wayside and bring in something
that does have an audience. We've you know, I use
Air America as an example. Even with the Janine Garoffalo
and and uh what's his face? Al Franken hosting their

(08:36):
morning show on Air America, they couldn't make it because
they did not have an audience. And that's what that's
what this business is all about, is you know, finding
that audience and serving that audience and keeping them coming
back and spreading the word and building their numbers.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Exactly, you know, like like this, so so you briefly,
I love Delf Frankin when he's sorry lot, but then
he just really whacked out, went way left, and I
can't say anything amore.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
The funniest thing he ever did was probably the simplest
thing he ever did, and that's when he would he
would do something on the SNL Weekend Update and it's
brought to you, of course by me Al Franken. That
was just that was hilarious to me. I love the
simplicity of that bit. But it worked week after week.
And then yeah, when he got into politics, he just

(09:23):
went way out there. Yep, all right, Ron, I appreciate you, buddy.
Having a great night, yep. Try to stay dry out there.
The skies here were look at a bit threatening a
while ago, but they've kind of calmed down, Zach. I
have not solicited your input here, and I always I
try to do that because as I've grown to not
be quite as annoyed by you on a daily basis,

(09:45):
I've discovered that you do occasionally have a thought. I mean,
is this one of those things where we're again in
agreement or do you think I'm much ado about nothing?

Speaker 6 (09:54):
No, well, it's the potential of Again you were talking
about media can go.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
It's not you.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
If they don't want you to hear something, you won't
hear it. I understand what you're saying, especially when it
comes to TV reporting. Maybe the Internet can negate some
of that, but I don't know because if you only
have two voices in one area and they do send
down orders like you're talking about that Gravi toss thing

(10:22):
with Cheney. That wasn't the only time. There were some
COVID talking points too that were repeated cross country, like
verbatim on some of those news talk shows.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
So it's it's worrisome, to put it mildly, if I.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
If I, if I had my brothers this, this wouldn't happen.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
And that's no offense.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
And again, I've got friends working at four, I've got
friends working at ten, and I'd prefer not to see
them unemployed next year.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
I just you know, if they're going to merge, isn't
that it's inevitable?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Right?

Speaker 1 (10:53):
You only need so many people and uh so many facilities.
Wouldn't surprise me if they, you know, on the Channel
ten added space for the Channel four studios and had
everybody working out of Twinter's Drive. Why have a building
up on all on TANGI if you can do everything
out of one.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
Yeah, what would they do the other?

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Just sell it?

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Probably, That's that's decent real estate up there. There's a
guy in town that'll put a hotel on anything, so
they could probably do that.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
It's close enough to.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
The university that people coming in for football games and
so forth would gladly pay money for a decent hotel
at that location. But I mean, you only need so
many production people, you only need so many camera operators,
so many lighting techs. It's it's a worrisom possibility. It

(11:45):
is a worrisome possibility, and I just I'm going to
think it over and uh, I'll come to an ultimate conclusion,
and that's when I'll come in here and bring my
Moses staff and part the studio and tell you here's
where I land on this thing. But for now, this
moment in time, it's just it's it's uh, it is
an uncomfortable possibility for me, and I just don't this

(12:09):
business should be growing, especially with the Internet, and you
know podcast podcasts that used to be strictly audio. There's
now plenty of video podcasting going on out there, rumbling
YouTube and Google and so forth. There's there's the broadband.

(12:30):
Internet changed a great deal as well with all of
that coming into play. There should be so many resources,
so many options when it comes to media consumption, and
there really aren't, and that seems backward to me.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
I always thought that you and I should do a
like on camera podcast about fashion.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Not about fashion. I wouldn't mind working with you on
some stuff, but I'm not about fashion. We used to
have in this town Channel twenty one, and I don't
know if the cab bills still have a fee for
itd it not for years after the City of Columbus
demolished Channel twenty one took it off the air. It
was and a lot of stuff that was on there,
by the way, was stupid.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
It was a public stupid Yes, it was public ass,
I miss.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
Anybody could go down there access.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Anybody could go down there and do a television show
on public access.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yes, and there was some interesting stuff. There was some stupid, stupid,
stupid stuff.

Speaker 6 (13:24):
There are some great if you go on YouTube across
the country. It'll be like Wisconsin. Sheboygan Public Access nineteen
ninety nine, Worst show ever, and it's it's endless entertainment.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
There were city.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Three people, two men and a woman that used to
They do largely what you and I do, sit around
and talk about nothing. But it was like entertainment nothing, yeah, movies,
television and stuff like that. And she usually had her
shoes off and her big old feed up on the
coffee table. And it was dumb. And I watched it
all the time, and it was, you know, city funded

(13:59):
public access tell vision. Yeah, it's gone, even though the
charge stayed on the cable bills for quite a while.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
It's gone. We're going backward, which I don't get. Time
moves forward and we go backward.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
The palette should be expanding, the option should be expanding,
and I'm just not sure I'm comfortable with this
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