Property tax elimination and your calls

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Chuck Douglinson the Power Hour on six ten dovel of
the u TV and talking about the property tax abolition
men effort here in the state of Ohio, which I
think is ill advised until we have all the details.
That's what it comes down to. We've got to know,
We've got to know, must know, have to know where
the money will come from. And I think although it's

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not required until after the petitions are signed, accepted and
it's headed for the ballot, that the ballot language actually
be revealed to us. I think we need to see
the ballot language up front. The voters need to know
exactly what they are voting for. We are we voting
for abolishing property taxes and paying seven hundred and fifty

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dollars a year for our license plates? Is that what
it's Because the money has to come from somewhere. A
two one nine eight eighty six A two one WTV
And back to the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone
lines and Daryl, you're on six to ten, dou WUTVN Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well, I'm seventy years and I remember when the state
of Ohio had the big push to get the lottery
started and one of the big ads was, past the lottery,
you will not have to worry about funding for your schools. Well,
you all left over.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Where's Darryl?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Darryl, are you moving around because you're you're digitizing on me?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's not any better.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
There you go, Yes, don't move. Put your toe in
the toaster if you have to.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, there you go. No, I said, I'm seventy. I
remember when they started the lottery here in Ohio, and
one of the big pushes was the fact that you
you folks, passed the lottery, you will no longer have
any problems with funding the schools in the state of Ohio.
But for some reason, it seems all they keep doing
is increasing the winnings from the lottery. I want to

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take a bunch of in the lottery, drop it down
and give it to the schools.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, I'll tell you what, Darryl, and it's Here's this
is the manipulation of the language as politics knows it
to be. What they told us was the proceeds from
the Ohio Lottery will go to benefit our public school system,
and they are correct, it absolutely does. The trouble is
if the lottery brings in ten million dollars to go
to the school system. They then remove the ten million

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dollars from the school budget, put it back into the
general fund, and reallocate it somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's exactly what they do. That way, the money is
not there for the.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
School exactly exactly. And they're killing the lottery right now
as far as I'm concerned. Do you play the lottery?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
No, never the Mega Million's ticket which was an Ohio
game and then it became a regional game kind of
like Powerball. But I don't think as many states the
tickets for that now have gone from they started at
two bucks. They jumped at the beginning of the month
from two dollars to five dollars a ticket. I don't
know about you, but I ain't spending five dollars on

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a lottery ticket.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I would be interesting to see if any of that
money is going back into some politicians bucketing.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I have to wonder if that. Yeah, they're going to
need to rethink that because I cannot see people spending
money on that. And and again that you know, the
manipulation of the language. They should have kept kept their
word instead of deceiving people by saying it was going
to schools and knowing all wrong, they had a they
had an ulterior plan.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yep, thanks, thanks a lot, thank you, Daryl.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I appreciate the call. A two one nine and eighty
six eight two one WUTV and man, just as I
go to hit people, they drop off. Lynn. You were
coming up next and you're gone. Sam, you were supposed
to be right after the news and you dropped off
of me. So I'm going to go to Michael. Michael
had the good sense to stay around. You're on six
to ten double the ETV and Michael.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Okay, I was just going to say, you say where's
the money going to come from? I'd say, where's the
money going? Right now?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well, aim in to that too, right now?

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, And you know I live out here and cannot Winchester.
I have a house that was one one hundred and
thirty seven acre farm. Ooh nice and so well right,
well do you say nice?

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Well?

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Okay, there has been four hundred and fifty houses building
around me, and my press property text went up three times.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Are you taking the cch I don't understand. Why are
you taking the agricultural discount on that property? Or is
it all residential?

Speaker 4 (04:12):
No, it's residential nine acres, I get nine acres agriculture.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Discount, well out of one hundred and thirty seven.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well that's the one hundred and thirty seventh soul. And
and they built houses all around me. So I'm saying.
What I'm saying is there's enough money with all these
other houses and you don't have to raise my tax.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
What I'm saying, Amen, that's something else as we see
the development and so forth in all these But again,
here's what happens when it's Columbus or Franklin County. They
love to give away those tax abatements and those what
they call the TIFFs, the tax increment financing, whatever the
crap it is. But I mean Joe Moto more Motil
when he ran for mayor, that's one of the things

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he and I agreed on. Democrat or not. Well, you've
got somebody living in say the Bottoms, in a house
that's valued in one hundred twenty thousand dollars and they're
paying twenty eight hundred dollars a year in property taxes.
And you've got somebody living in a one point three
million dollar condo next to the arena downtown and they're
paying one hundred and ten dollars a year in property taxes.

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That's a problem. Yeah, I agree, but that's how that's
how they work it, gentlemen. Okay, go ahead, Uh okay,
I lost that. Michael. Well, I'll tell you what, Michael.
You're still with me? Michael, Okay, Michael's gone. So what
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get another Michael on Michael
other Michael. You're on six WTV at I.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, this is Mike. I got a comment about the
property taxes for me. You know, I've had the scrounge
and worked for everything I got, and I ended up
with three houses and a small farm. The way I
say it, I'm paying four shares oat the boat for

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you know, schools and everything else. I'm on a fixed
income still. You know, I just retired from a city
job and I'm not bringing that much in. And everything
about property taxes is completely unfair.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Now.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I know, we got to fund our services. I support that.
We got to have our fire departments and our schools,
but it doesn't have the government should never have anything
to do with our our homes, our land. I mean,
I don't know whoever agreed and never thought that was

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a good idea, but.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
They were lunatics.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
I mean, look, what's happening.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
You've got three homes, Michael, are you? You are two
of them rental properties. What are you doing with them?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Well, a couple of them rental Well, actually one of
them is setting vacant for the time being, and it's
been vacant for almost a year. I still got to
pay the government their money or they'll sell my home.
One's my home and one is a rental property. But

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everyone's like, well, let's you know, you should get it
out of your renters. I'm like, well, why do I
got to be their daddy? I mean, if they got
to pay their own share taxes, I shouldn't be up
to me. And I actually have people on fixed incomes.
Now here's the hiccup. I know what they make. It's
like thirteen hundred dollars a month a piece. In my

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hometown of West Jefferson, you can't get a house for
less than eight nine hundred dollars a month. Yeah, I know, fifteen.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I love West Jefferson so much, but the last five years,
costs have gone all just out of the world out there.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
But I challenged it, and I'm like Hey, I'm like,
this isn't about me. I said, this is about my renters.
I'm like, these people are going to be living under
bridge or I'm going to be taken and I just
couldn't do it. I'm like, I'm still not charging them
hardly anything. The government has got to get off our properties,
out of our house, out of our yard.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
And these lawmakers and representatives that should be that in
health insurance, Affordable health insurance should be what they're working
on every day, because everything else is a bunch of
bull crap.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
And from where I'm standing.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
This idea that you never actually own what you own
is insulting. It really is.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
I got a brother in law. He's on fixed income
and because he lives in a little nicer area, his
property taxes in West kest have went over six thousand
dollars a year. Wow, you throw in, you throw in
your insurance. The man's paying over seven thousand dollars a
year to live in his own home. Something is wrong

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with that.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yes, since Raven came.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Six thousand a year in West Jefferson in property taxes
is crazy? That is Oh my god, Michael, I appreciate
the call, but he thanks very much. Next time I'm
out in West jeff I'll blow the horn real loud.
Maybe I'll see you. Thank you all right, take care
of yourself. A two one nine eight eighty six A
two one WTV. And I'm not joking. I love West Jefferson.
I love West Jefferson. Okay, Tom, you're on six ten

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WTV in Height. How are you doing, find sir?

Speaker 6 (09:20):
Yeah, I'm with you on where's the money going to
come from for all the services that the property tax
pays for? And not that I'm against eliminating property tax.
I got a suggestion, maybe we get it from tariffs,
because President Trump said he was going to eliminate the
federal income tax with tariffs.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, yeah, I you know I it's a no win thing,
those tariffs. I'm glad that China and the United States
have come to an agreement. I don't think it's going
to be ninety days because frankly, the Chinese want us
to buy all their crap, so they want our money.
They're going to keep their tariffs low, which means we'll

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keep our tariffs low. In the exchange will go back
and everybody will be able to go to Walmart and
by cheap stuff and everybody will be happy. But that
means that that revenue stream is not there to replace
federal income taxes. And I saw something today where President Trump,
I guess, was talking to Speaker Johnson and wants him
to begin looking at raising taxes on basically rich people,

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higher income Americans, which I just I saw that headline said, Okay,
I got a bookmark this and read it. That just
sounds so diametrically opposed to everything so far. Maybe there's
some sense in there that I don't know about yet,
but that makes me a little nervous because the money, ultimately,
whether I like it or not, the money does have
to come from somewhere.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
It does.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
And I suppose the next thing we're going to do
is eliminate daylight saving time.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, well we'll see. They keep talking about it. Let's
see him.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
Yeah, that's what they do, they keep talking about it.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I'm not a fan of daylight saving time. I think
that's like me taking the scales and setting them back
twenty pound and saying I lost weight. You know, it's
not real, buddy, it's not real. I appreciate you, Tom,
thanks very much for the call. Yeah, the idea that
we were actually considering stopping this foolishness of moving the

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clocks back and forth every year. I'm good with that.
I don't think we should be doing that. I think
it's silly. But by the same token, if we're gonna
do it, let's make standard time real time. That's the
measurement of the sun. And as the Sun rotates around
or the Earth rotates around the Sun, and that's time.

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My gosh, Roger, you're gonna wrap us up on six
Ton WTVN.

Speaker 7 (11:46):
Yes, sir, I just.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Found this out.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
I live in the south Questioning School district that I
couldn't figure this out as a new school building my
neighborhood here, Chuck, your public pre mayor with elementary, middle school,
high school, that's really been doing it well, it's Southwestern.
You got a fourth category now elementary is first through
fourth grade. Then there's a category called the intermediate school.
It's a totally separate building, Chuck. It just built the thing.

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Oh what grade five and six, Then you got the
middle school building grade seven and eight, and then you
got to high school for nine and twelve.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Why somebody from Southwestern.

Speaker 7 (12:20):
School calls in and tries to explain this to all
of us. I don't know if the school districts are
doing it or not. One through four, five and six,
then seven and eight.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
What's up for that, Chuck.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I just made a note to myself about an hour
and a half ago to get somebody from Southwestern City
Schools because they've taken a position that all education in
the district should be done in English, and I wanted
to applaud them for that. And now you've hit me
with this, and this is stupid, So Roger, I will
bring that up with them as well. I appreciate you
letting me know, because I'm not I've not heard of

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such a thing.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Charlie goes to a middle school.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
It's just fifth and six middle makes sense, and then
the next.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Year he goes junior high seven eighth seed and then
high school.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
When I was in school, it was kindergarten to sixth
we're all in elementary school. Junior high school was seventh, eighth,
and ninth, and then in tenth grade you went into
high school tenth, eleventh, and twelfth. Now we got intermediate school,
and we got middle school, and we got high school,
and we got elementaries. Could come on, man, we should
have a building in grade for every single grade,