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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Greeting salitations, Welcome my friends to another edition of The
Power Hour on six tenu WTV, and I'm Chuck Douglas.
You know who you are, and we take it from there.
We get one hour together, which means I talk really
fast and you must listen even faster. My number eight
to nine eight eight six eight two one WTV in
or eight hundred six y ten WTV. And earlier I
was talking to Mark and I kind of said, I
(00:26):
don't know, half heartedly, almost in a way serious, but
not really. And the more I'm thinking about it, the
more the more I'm thinking, maybe I kind of like
the idea. And I'm talking about the children I'm staining
in the state of Ohio from social media. In exchange
for them not having social media accounts until they are
no younger than eighteen years of age, the state would
(00:47):
pick up their college tuition to a state university. We
might get into that. Think of just mull it over.
Mull it over. You don't get on the TikTok, the Instagram,
the Facebook, the snapchat, any that stuff. Your whole teen years,
you don't do it, and then you graduate from high
school and you get the free ride of the state
college because we're already acknowledging dangers. There's already been legislation
(01:12):
here and around the country attempting to make sure that
you cannot get onto a social media you have to
have a kid's accounty, you have to parental permission or what.
So we're acknowledging the negative impact of social media on
our kids already. I don't think this is something that
we should automatically dismiss. Now. The more I think about it,
(01:33):
the more I think maybe it's worth a discussion. So
I'm going to continue to mull it over, and I
just want to put it in front of you as well.
This story is all over the place today Attorney Donald
Davios announcing a petition to abolish property taxes has been
approved in the state of Ohio. No, I mean it's not.
(01:54):
It's not a done deal yet, but the Attorney General's
office has approved the petition title and for a proposed
constitutional amendment titled Abolish Abolishment of Taxes on Real Property.
The amendment seeks to add section fourteen to Article seven
I'm sorry, Article twelve of the Ohio Constitution received by
the Attorney Geral's office made first a group from Kuyahogan
(02:17):
County called the Ohio Citizens for Property Tax Reform and
the Committee to Eliminate Property Taxes in Ohio. I'm going
to try to get them on the show because I
want to talk to him because the first question, and
I don't know why why they're attributing this to Dave
Yost because I mean, honestly, all he's doing is his function.
But the stories, the reporting on this all have his
(02:39):
name as if he's got something to do with it,
or he's behind it, or he's backing it or whatever.
This is just his function in his capacity as Ohio
Attorney General. Okay, and the Vivek Ramaswami endorsement from the
Ohio GOP last week, I guess has them reaching for
any story that they can. My first question, I think
(03:03):
a relevant question, I think a necessary question and a
question that must be answered before this goes before the
voters of the state of Ohio. Do you know what
it is? Act? Do you know where I'm going?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Where are you gonna make up the money?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Where is the money going to come from? If you
abolish real estate taxes, real property taxes in the state
of Ohio, Where is that money going to come from.
And if that question cannot be answered succinctly completely into
the satisfaction of the voters, I hope personal greed does
(03:39):
not have you making a stupid decision.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
They don't say what's gonna fund schools and fire police?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
They have there's no and we got it. We've got
to have a game plan for that. Right. Just saying
we're gonna abolish real estate taxes? No, And I'm completely
against property taxes. I am. I think it's stupid that
you work your tail off to be able to buy
something a home, a business, building, whatever, and then you
(04:10):
have to continue to pay the government each year simply
for the right to own it. It's like buying a
seat license before you can buy your season tickets. It's stupid.
You should not have to do this. That being said,
we also cannot pull the rug out from under all
of the things that are funded through property taxes in
(04:31):
the state of Ohio without a plan on replacing those funds.
Do you want your license plates to cost seven hundred
dollars a year? Do you want another twenty five cents
a gallon state tax on gasoline? Do you want your
professional license whether you're a you know, I pay a
(04:52):
realtor license fee every year. Up, people who are paying
you know, lawyers or doctors or whatever, professional licenses in
the state of Do you want those feeds to triple, quadruple?
What are you willing to pay? And see? Once again,
here's the situation. This is gonna sound so snobbish. Whenever
(05:15):
government starts screwing with money, the people who openly, willingly,
faithfully support those attempts are usually those that have no
skin in the game. If you don't have a car,
you don't pay for license plates, if you don't buy gasoline,
if you don't have a professional license, if you're living
(05:37):
off of you know, a disability check or something like that,
that's not affected by any of this. Sure, if you're
old or broke, sure I'll say I'll vote yes on that.
But for those people that are out here making a
living trying to be barbers or doctors or nurses or whatever,
(06:02):
having them pay more for their state licenses every year,
while it may not affect you directly, it affects your
your Ohio family, if you will, I.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Just to emphasize why if Florida the property tax is done,
but they're to register a car the first time is
two hundred and twenty five dollars. Yeah, if you want
to reregister, it's almost four hundred. Your plates cost one hundred.
So they make up that money somewhere.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
It has to It has to be made up. There's
no way you can say, all right, we're just not
going to text that anymore and not make it up
some way. Government cannot come to a stop. And I absolutely,
again I want to be clear about this. I absolutely
believe that property taxes are punitive and just and unnecessary.
(06:56):
I absolutely believe that property taxes shouldn't not be the
primary source of funding for our school systems. But it
is what it is at this moment. And you cannot
pull that car, that blanket out, that that rugout from
under everybody without some way of replacing those funds. And
(07:17):
I hope I'm making sense. I'd love to hear your thoughts,
by the way, A two one nine eight eight six
A two one WTV, And you're welcome to tell me
if you think I'm wrong, that's fine. I don't I
don't mind that debate, discussion, disagreement with respect, that's fine.
But somebody is going to have to lay out for
me to my satisfaction as a voter. How this money
(07:40):
is going to be replaced? This story on the the
it was a WSYX. I can I can't even remember
where I got this story, wherever I got it? If certified,
petitioners must gather signatures from registered voters equal to at
least ten percent of the votes that were cast in
the most recent gubernatorial election, which shouldn't be hard because
(08:02):
we didn't have a massive turnout. Signatures must be collected
from at least forty four of Ohio's eighty eight counties,
with each county contributing signatures equal to at least five
percent of the votes that were cast in the last
gubernatorial election. Should the Ohio Secretary of State's office verify
(08:24):
sufficient signatures at least sixty five days before the election,
the full text of the proposed amendment will appear on
the ballot in the next regular or general election occurring
more than one hundred and twenty five days after the petition. Finally, again,
the full text will appear on the ballot before people
(08:46):
are asked to sign a petition like this. I think
the full text ought to be worked out. We ought
to know exactly what we're getting ourselves into or maybe
that's just me A two one nine eight eight six
A two one WT in the legacy Timagroup dot com
phone lines are open to you and mark you're on
substendable ETV at Hi.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Hi, thank you well. The key issue for me is, well,
my parents are both older and they own their house.
I don't feel that if you own your home when
you're retired, you have a sixth income, that you should
well you could potentially lose your home because you can't
cover the cost of the property taxes. I don't think
(09:26):
that's right that someone can own a home outright and
pay on the mortgage for decades and then like all
of a sudden, their property taxes just skyrocket. And I
got friends even whose parents might lose their house is
because of property taxes. I mean, like, there's gotta be
like a happy median here, because I just feel like
it's just such a I don't know, it seems criminal
(09:48):
that like people who paid off their home or retired
and a sixth income and they're losing their homes because
of property taxes. To me, that's not right and something's
got to be done about that, at least, I mean
when or not have abolish and property taxes altogether. I'm
not sure, but like, you shouldn't lose your home if
it's paid off and you're retired on a fixed income
(10:09):
because of property taxes. I mean, that's the moral to me.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And that's that's another that's another catch twenty two situation
mark because parents, you know, older folks generally have nicer,
more expensive homes. The taxes on those nicer and more
expensive homes are going to be higher. If you start
eliminating those from the mix, just taking them out of
the mix completely, then the taxes on the cheaper homes,
(10:37):
less expensive homes, lower end homes, whatever you want to
call it, those are going to have to go up
in order to relieve. And it's not that I disagree
with you. I'm just saying again, we need to know
the path that's ahead of us. If you're living in
a four hundred and fifty thousand to six hundred thousand
dollars home, you're retired, you've paid it off, that's great.
But if you're not going to be paying taxes on
(10:59):
that property because you're over sixty five and retired, and
the guy in the one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars.
House is going to have to be paying more. That's
the only way it works.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Well, put the feorary out a solution here, because this
is just a big issue for me and I hope
that this passes. I mean, there's gotta be other ways
that education can be funded. To mean, I don't think
it's constitutional how we fund education in Ohio anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
It is not. It does the Ohio Supreme Court. It's
been twenty years since the Ohio Supreme Court that told
the legislature you need to find a new way, and
it has yet to be done.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
That's that. Well, thank you for your talking.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I appreciate you. Mark, thanks for the call. Eight two
one nine eight eighty six. John, you're on sixten Doable ETVN.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Hey, Chuck, would you quit making so much sense?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I'm sorry, it's it's just it's an old family tradition, Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I just wanted to make sure because you're absolutely right
on everything you've said today, and people need to listen
very closely to what you're saying. Uh, captes are dumb.
I'm sorry. I agree with you one hundred percent. Keep
(12:09):
the kids until they're eighteen, away from all the social media,
I chuck, you're making too much sense.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, thank you, John, I appreciate it. The support is
always welcome. Man. I try to make sense, and I
don't think it's outrageous. People who listen to that think
about social media and think I'm crazy, I'm tyrannical. Whatever. Look,
you can't tell me, Oh well you can't. We can't
be given away touch free tuition to the state universities.
Come on, the universities. Even the state universities have hundreds
(12:38):
of millions, if not billions of dollars in endowments already
there they're taking money left and right. You come here
from Somalia, We'll throw everything at you for free. You
come here from South to the board, We'll throw everything
at you for free. Why the hell shitn't American citizens,
American students get scholarships to state universities for staying away
from something that we are generally coming to recognize is
(12:59):
poise into their minds. I seriously, I've got to keep
thinking about this, because I don't think I'm off target.
Greeting salitations, Welcome my friends to another edition of The
Power Hour on six tenu WTV, and I'm Chuck Douglas.
You know who you are, and we take it from there.
We get one hour together, which means I talk really
fast and you must listen even faster. My number eight
to nine eight eight six eight two one WTV in
or eight hundred six y ten WTV. And earlier I
was talking to Mark and I kind of said, I
(00:26):
don't know, half heartedly, almost in a way serious, but
not really. And the more I'm thinking about it, the
more the more I'm thinking, maybe I kind of like
the idea. And I'm talking about the children I'm staining
in the state of Ohio from social media. In exchange
for them not having social media accounts until they are
no younger than eighteen years of age, the state would
(00:47):
pick up their college tuition to a state university. We
might get into that. Think of just mull it over.
Mull it over. You don't get on the TikTok, the Instagram,
the Facebook, the snapchat, any that stuff. Your whole teen years,
you don't do it, and then you graduate from high
school and you get the free ride of the state
college because we're already acknowledging dangers. There's already been legislation
(01:12):
here and around the country attempting to make sure that
you cannot get onto a social media you have to
have a kid's accounty, you have to parental permission or what.
So we're acknowledging the negative impact of social media on
our kids already. I don't think this is something that
we should automatically dismiss. Now. The more I think about it,
(01:33):
the more I think maybe it's worth a discussion. So
I'm going to continue to mull it over, and I
just want to put it in front of you as well.
This story is all over the place today Attorney Donald
Davios announcing a petition to abolish property taxes has been
approved in the state of Ohio. No, I mean it's not.
(01:54):
It's not a done deal yet, but the Attorney General's
office has approved the petition title and for a proposed
constitutional amendment titled Abolish Abolishment of Taxes on Real Property.
The amendment seeks to add section fourteen to Article seven
I'm sorry, Article twelve of the Ohio Constitution received by
the Attorney Geral's office made first a group from Kuyahogan
(02:17):
County called the Ohio Citizens for Property Tax Reform and
the Committee to Eliminate Property Taxes in Ohio. I'm going
to try to get them on the show because I
want to talk to him because the first question, and
I don't know why why they're attributing this to Dave
Yost because I mean, honestly, all he's doing is his function.
But the stories, the reporting on this all have his
(02:39):
name as if he's got something to do with it,
or he's behind it, or he's backing it or whatever.
This is just his function in his capacity as Ohio
Attorney General. Okay, and the Vivek Ramaswami endorsement from the
Ohio GOP last week, I guess has them reaching for
any story that they can. My first question, I think
(03:03):
a relevant question, I think a necessary question and a
question that must be answered before this goes before the
voters of the state of Ohio. Do you know what
it is? Act? Do you know where I'm going?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Where are you gonna make up the money?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Where is the money going to come from? If you
abolish real estate taxes, real property taxes in the state
of Ohio, Where is that money going to come from.
And if that question cannot be answered succinctly completely into
the satisfaction of the voters, I hope personal greed does
(03:39):
not have you making a stupid decision.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
They don't say what's gonna fund schools and fire police?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
They have there's no and we got it. We've got
to have a game plan for that. Right. Just saying
we're gonna abolish real estate taxes? No, And I'm completely
against property taxes. I am. I think it's stupid that
you work your tail off to be able to buy
something a home, a business, building, whatever, and then you
(04:10):
have to continue to pay the government each year simply
for the right to own it. It's like buying a
seat license before you can buy your season tickets. It's stupid.
You should not have to do this. That being said,
we also cannot pull the rug out from under all
of the things that are funded through property taxes in
(04:31):
the state of Ohio without a plan on replacing those funds.
Do you want your license plates to cost seven hundred
dollars a year? Do you want another twenty five cents
a gallon state tax on gasoline? Do you want your
professional license whether you're a you know, I pay a
(04:52):
realtor license fee every year. Up, people who are paying
you know, lawyers or doctors or whatever, professional licenses in
the state of Do you want those feeds to triple, quadruple?
What are you willing to pay? And see? Once again,
here's the situation. This is gonna sound so snobbish. Whenever
(05:15):
government starts screwing with money, the people who openly, willingly,
faithfully support those attempts are usually those that have no
skin in the game. If you don't have a car,
you don't pay for license plates, if you don't buy gasoline,
if you don't have a professional license, if you're living
(05:37):
off of you know, a disability check or something like that,
that's not affected by any of this. Sure, if you're
old or broke, sure I'll say I'll vote yes on that.
But for those people that are out here making a
living trying to be barbers or doctors or nurses or whatever,
(06:02):
having them pay more for their state licenses every year,
while it may not affect you directly, it affects your
your Ohio family, if you will, I.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Just to emphasize why if Florida the property tax is done,
but they're to register a car the first time is
two hundred and twenty five dollars. Yeah, if you want
to reregister, it's almost four hundred. Your plates cost one hundred.
So they make up that money somewhere.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
It has to It has to be made up. There's
no way you can say, all right, we're just not
going to text that anymore and not make it up
some way. Government cannot come to a stop. And I absolutely,
again I want to be clear about this. I absolutely
believe that property taxes are punitive and just and unnecessary.
(06:56):
I absolutely believe that property taxes shouldn't not be the
primary source of funding for our school systems. But it
is what it is at this moment. And you cannot
pull that car, that blanket out, that that rugout from
under everybody without some way of replacing those funds. And
(07:17):
I hope I'm making sense. I'd love to hear your thoughts,
by the way, A two one nine eight eight six
A two one WTV, And you're welcome to tell me
if you think I'm wrong, that's fine. I don't I
don't mind that debate, discussion, disagreement with respect, that's fine.
But somebody is going to have to lay out for
me to my satisfaction as a voter. How this money
(07:40):
is going to be replaced? This story on the the
it was a WSYX. I can I can't even remember
where I got this story, wherever I got it? If certified,
petitioners must gather signatures from registered voters equal to at
least ten percent of the votes that were cast in
the most recent gubernatorial election, which shouldn't be hard because
(08:02):
we didn't have a massive turnout. Signatures must be collected
from at least forty four of Ohio's eighty eight counties,
with each county contributing signatures equal to at least five
percent of the votes that were cast in the last
gubernatorial election. Should the Ohio Secretary of State's office verify
(08:24):
sufficient signatures at least sixty five days before the election,
the full text of the proposed amendment will appear on
the ballot in the next regular or general election occurring
more than one hundred and twenty five days after the petition. Finally, again,
the full text will appear on the ballot before people
(08:46):
are asked to sign a petition like this. I think
the full text ought to be worked out. We ought
to know exactly what we're getting ourselves into or maybe
that's just me A two one nine eight eight six
A two one WT in the legacy Timagroup dot com
phone lines are open to you and mark you're on
substendable ETV at Hi.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Hi, thank you well. The key issue for me is, well,
my parents are both older and they own their house.
I don't feel that if you own your home when
you're retired, you have a sixth income, that you should
well you could potentially lose your home because you can't
cover the cost of the property taxes. I don't think
(09:26):
that's right that someone can own a home outright and
pay on the mortgage for decades and then like all
of a sudden, their property taxes just skyrocket. And I
got friends even whose parents might lose their house is
because of property taxes. I mean, like, there's gotta be
like a happy median here, because I just feel like
it's just such a I don't know, it seems criminal
(09:48):
that like people who paid off their home or retired
and a sixth income and they're losing their homes because
of property taxes. To me, that's not right and something's
got to be done about that, at least, I mean
when or not have abolish and property taxes altogether. I'm
not sure, but like, you shouldn't lose your home if
it's paid off and you're retired on a fixed income
(10:09):
because of property taxes. I mean, that's the moral to me.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And that's that's another that's another catch twenty two situation
mark because parents, you know, older folks generally have nicer,
more expensive homes. The taxes on those nicer and more
expensive homes are going to be higher. If you start
eliminating those from the mix, just taking them out of
the mix completely, then the taxes on the cheaper homes,
(10:37):
less expensive homes, lower end homes, whatever you want to
call it, those are going to have to go up
in order to relieve. And it's not that I disagree
with you. I'm just saying again, we need to know
the path that's ahead of us. If you're living in
a four hundred and fifty thousand to six hundred thousand
dollars home, you're retired, you've paid it off, that's great.
But if you're not going to be paying taxes on
(10:59):
that property because you're over sixty five and retired, and
the guy in the one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars.
House is going to have to be paying more. That's
the only way it works.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Well, put the feorary out a solution here, because this
is just a big issue for me and I hope
that this passes. I mean, there's gotta be other ways
that education can be funded. To mean, I don't think
it's constitutional how we fund education in Ohio anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
It is not. It does the Ohio Supreme Court. It's
been twenty years since the Ohio Supreme Court that told
the legislature you need to find a new way, and
it has yet to be done.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
That's that. Well, thank you for your talking.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I appreciate you. Mark, thanks for the call. Eight two
one nine eight eighty six. John, you're on sixten Doable ETVN.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Hey, Chuck, would you quit making so much sense?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I'm sorry, it's it's just it's an old family tradition, Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I just wanted to make sure because you're absolutely right
on everything you've said today, and people need to listen
very closely to what you're saying. Uh, captes are dumb.
I'm sorry. I agree with you one hundred percent. Keep
(12:09):
the kids until they're eighteen, away from all the social media,
I chuck, you're making too much sense.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, thank you, John, I appreciate it. The support is
always welcome. Man. I try to make sense, and I
don't think it's outrageous. People who listen to that think
about social media and think I'm crazy, I'm tyrannical. Whatever. Look,
you can't tell me, Oh well you can't. We can't
be given away touch free tuition to the state universities.
Come on, the universities. Even the state universities have hundreds
(12:38):
of millions, if not billions of dollars in endowments already
there they're taking money left and right. You come here
from Somalia, We'll throw everything at you for free. You
come here from South to the board, We'll throw everything
at you for free. Why the hell shitn't American citizens,
American students get scholarships to state universities for staying away
from something that we are generally coming to recognize is
(12:59):
poise into their minds. I seriously, I've got to keep
thinking about this, because I don't think I'm off target.
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