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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Greeting Salitation's welcome, my friends to another edition to the Power.
Now we're on six ten wtv IN on'm Chuck Douglas.
You know who you are. We get one hour together,
which means I talk really fast and you must listen
even faster. I number eight two one nine eight eight
six eight two one WTVN or one eight hundred and
six to ten WTVN. Just look at over the crime
reports here looks like over on my beloved to westside
(00:27):
police at ems responding to a report of a dog
or it says an animal an animal bite at a
fast food restaurant. Tragic story from the south side of
Columbus today. And I just I was so infuriated in
reading the WSYX six website as they covered the story,
and there was one comment, well, you know, because people
can comment on the stories, one comment, and this idiot
(00:50):
had to make it about race.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I actually saw that. Well, I just man, I there
is no you have to set there if you read
that story ago, all right, how do I make this
about race?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I know there's no other way that. There's no context
of race at all in that story.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Nothing, nothing, A tragic story, A seven month old child
dead because of a dog attack. I'm a little confused
on this though, because I was reading the remarks Sergeant
Fuga was out there and speaking on behalf of the
police department said they I guess he at this point
was not anticipating any charges. Now, just two days ago
(01:28):
out of Marion County, we've got another couple, mother and father,
Their six month old child was killed by one of
their dogs, and they're under arrest and facing charges. So
I'm not sure what the decision making process will be
in Columbus versus Marion, but I'd be interested to see,
(01:50):
especially since we just had a big story about, you know,
seventy three year old woman attack by dogs with a
history of being nuisances and danger in the neighborhood. But
these there's seventeen thousand on average dog attacks in the
state of Ohio each year.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Did you know that I did not, I could kind
of guess which dogs are the perpetrator.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well, and you'll notice that wasn't mentioned in any of
the coverage today, what type of dog it was. However,
I have I didn't bring it up. I have verified
with a couple of people that that indeed was the case. Yes, yes,
very it's kind of a weird scenario, and again, is
a geographic thing is I don't know. I have no
(02:36):
idea why the couple from Marion County are arrested in Columbus.
They don't anticipate charges. It's not like I'm looking for
retribution right now. I'm just looking for something to make sense,
because when a child is gone, something something in there
has to make sense. Otherwise I just go just off
(02:59):
the wall. Yesterday, Blazer and I were talking a bit
about the May primary coming up here in state Issue too.
You know me well enough to know I think at
this point that anytime the government attempts to sell me
on something by saying this is not a tax, the
first thing I'm doing is looking for how it's coming
(03:20):
out of my pocket. Anything that's not a tax that's
on the ballot you are paying for some way, somehow,
through some fee somewhere. And the same applies to issue too.
A bond issue, A bond is a loan. A loan,
(03:43):
so Ohio will borrow money to do this infrastructure work.
That issue too is supposed to take care of Although
we just passed what four or five years ago a
ten cent a gallon increase on gasoline that was supposed
to take care of our roads, and our roads have
become more crappy since then. But now we're going to
(04:04):
have a bond issue for infrastructure. I'm a little hesitant
to be happy about this. I want to know how
we're going to pay it back. And so what do
you do? Well, you go to one of the sources,
that is a member of the state legislature, Senator Steve Huffman,
who is I call it the Tip City Madman, volunteered
to join in tonight and hopefully answer some questions and
(04:26):
clarify this. Steve, how are you.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I'm doing well in yourself. I'm just horribofied by the
way you started out with this. You know, there's nothing
more valuable than a child's life and that I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
That is that we we and you know I'll be
I'll be frank with you. This is completely off the radar,
but I will be frank. You and I may end
up talking before this year is out. If this, if
this trend continues, it may be time to limit you know,
what is available and what is acceptable and legal to
have as a pet in the state of Ohio, because
these stories are just to two frequent and too payment.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Absolutely, you know, the owner needs to be responsible for
their pet in every way. And you know, we'll see
how this one worked out. You know in Marion County
it's worked out one way which they seem to be
being held responsible.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Talk to me about issue too, Steve. Where are license
plates going up? Are we looking at another state sales tax?
There's got to be a game plan somewhere in there
that we don't know about to pay back this bond.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Well, first I'll tell you that when the gas tax
went up a few years ago, I voted against that.
I was for about seven or eight cents increase because
our roads needed it. But we went way too far,
especially on the diesel side. But issue too, and I'll
explain it is not a tax increase. But what we
(05:53):
do this is I think the fifth time that the
voters have voted on it. So the state of all
high it can't go out and just borrow money. We
have to have the voters tell us it's okay. And
so this is twenty five billion over ten years, or
twenty five million two point five billion over ten years,
(06:16):
so about a quarter of a million, two hundred and
fifty million a year, and it's mostly for water sewage,
and it's we need predictability because it goes out to
city Columbus, Hilliard, Toledo. Most of the time there's some
local money that helps pay for it. But as they plan,
(06:40):
you know, they don't have you know, it might be
one hundred million dollar project and the state's going to
give them twenty you know, they need some predictability that
it's going to be there, and so we bond it
and then we pay it back over over the the
ten years of the project. And uh, it gives some predictability,
(07:03):
but we're we're you know, the taxpayers will pay it back.
But it's we do this for schools. You know, you
can't build an eighty million dollars, uh school, you don't
have the money. So you bond it out and pay
it back over the thirty years as the money comes in.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Is it Is it ever or has it ever been
the process to build in the repayment mechanism as part
of the bond issue so that people know what they're
what they're getting into. Are we going to are we
going to charge you more for these state services or
are we going to cut from the budget on other
(07:41):
state services. Like you know, any if I go into
a bank I want to start a business, I got
to give them a business plan. I'm looking as a taxpayer,
what's the business plan for this bond before I can
approve it?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Uh, the business plan is to you know, today the
House passed to offer budgets in there is a provision
to pay back and pay with interest those bonds that
have come due that you know, this program has produced
over the last you know, ten years. You know, there's
(08:16):
debt to be paid, and that it comes out of
the operating budget budget that is planned for, you know,
every time we do a budget.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Now, at the same time, the governor, I don't know
if it's his personal ambition here or if this is
kind of an overall administration thing, but I've heard that,
you know, we're looking at elimination of state sales tax
like five six years from now as a potential goal
in the state of Ohio. Something they're trying to work toward.
(08:45):
Is what.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You said, sales pas.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I'm sorry, income I've introduced for.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
The third time to get rid of the personal income.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Right, I'm sorry, Okay, So, so I mean, is that
kind of thing nullified by something like this. You pass
this bond issue, Okay, you got no chance of getting
rid of the income tax now, because hey, we got
to pay back a bond.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
We so to service. Three hundred million every year is
not that much compared to the you know, one hundred
billion dollar budgets that we're going through. So it's like
taking out a home mortgage. You don't have enough money
to pay cash for your house, but you have to
live and you have to produce these things. So it's
(09:33):
really I don't think so in my personal opinion, we
have enough back in the state government that we that
we can cut out the personal income tax over probably
the next six to eight years. But I don't think
we're going to miss out on anything because these are
projects that we need to do.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
All right, Well, I'm going to keep for you. There's
a whole lot of stuff here. I will tell you
that this began, This originated in the House, and it
was a bipartisan bill. So if that tells you anything,
just as a voter, at least go in with that
open mind and try to get it figured out.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Here.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You got to vote May six. Don't don't mess up,
and don't vote We've had a good election in the
last big one, and I want to see that kind
of momentum going before I say goodbye to you, Senator
Steve Huffman. Anything anything going on in the Ohio Senate
we don't know about, should know about, or would be
excited to hear about.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Oh yeah, you know, you know, normal course of business,
things are going well. You know, the House voted out
the budget today. We will get it and mix it
all up and by June thirtieth, I am confidence that
we will have something that with little government, little governments
and you know a lot of the tax increases that
(10:49):
the governor wanted on gaming, marijuana, cigarette tax came out
in the in the House. I think it's a real start.
I think the Senate will be able to do something
and with the governor sign in it. But as far
as issue too, you know, we've been doing this for
(11:12):
forty years, people have been voting for it. I think
the last several times had passed by the voters. It
is sixty three to sixty five percent. So it's like
taking out of mortgage. We need to pay for these
things and it's the best week that we can do
it and make it. Statement as with bonding it.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So I have to say I was glad to see
a little pushback on some of those Mike DeWine wish
list items in the budget coming from the legislature. I
think that's the last time you and I talked, actually
was I was a bit apprehensive about some of that stuff,
especially when it came to the increase in the taxes
on the sports gaming and the marijuana changes and so forth.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
It just give us to swallow. But you know, he
put them in the budgets. But at the same time,
we had to back down a number of the programs
that he was looking at and have been there for
a while because he was using them to pay for
the child tax credit and other things like that.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
There was a guy who ran, actually tried to run
for mayor of Columbus years ago, and his entire platform
seemed to center on free water. And I'll tell you what.
As I was reading through this this list of things,
this infrastructure list for issue too, and I see all
the water oriented stuff on their water, drainage, sewage, and
so forth. That's something, as crazy as it sounds. I'm
(12:37):
a capitalistic right winger to the end man, but one
of the most communistic, socialistic things will ever come out
of my mouth is I don't get why a you
pay for something that falls from the sky and be
the government is in charge of that. I've never liked
utilities being something that generates profit. You need it to live.
I have to have water to drink, to sustain life,
(12:59):
to flush, to bathe, and and it's you know, it's
controlled by a municipal government and they will cut you
off in a heartbeat if you don't have those dollars
when they want them. I've that always has bugged me philosophically.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
You know what bugs me more so in the city
that I live in. I they also build a trash
with the water. So if I don't want to pay
my pay my trash bill, or I'm mad at the
trash man, they turned my water off.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Oh man, what.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Kind of sense does that made?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
All Right? See, you and I have to get together
and just do a joint gripe night where we just
go door to door and gripe at the people in
charge of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Steve up and be careful on the drive home. We
got some rain moving in and uh and uh, you
know it's gonna be spring soon enough, so enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
When it gets here, you take care of call me
anytime you take care.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I appreciate you, buddy, thank you very much for the call. Uh,
I just I'm I'm still apprehensive. I I like and
to this point, I've got no reason to not try.
Senator Huffman, he seems to think this is this is
all in all, it's it's the norm, it's okay, it's
accounted for, it's nothing to but you who know how
(14:10):
I am. I'm a bit skeptical.
Greeting Salitation's welcome, my friends to another edition to the Power.
Now we're on six ten wtv IN on'm Chuck Douglas.
You know who you are. We get one hour together,
which means I talk really fast and you must listen
even faster. I number eight two one nine eight eight
six eight two one WTVN or one eight hundred and
six to ten WTVN. Just look at over the crime
reports here looks like over on my beloved to westside
(00:27):
police at ems responding to a report of a dog
or it says an animal an animal bite at a
fast food restaurant. Tragic story from the south side of
Columbus today. And I just I was so infuriated in
reading the WSYX six website as they covered the story,
and there was one comment, well, you know, because people
can comment on the stories, one comment, and this idiot
(00:50):
had to make it about race.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I actually saw that. Well, I just man, I there
is no you have to set there if you read
that story ago, all right, how do I make this
about race?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I know there's no other way that. There's no context
of race at all in that story.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Nothing, nothing, A tragic story, A seven month old child
dead because of a dog attack. I'm a little confused
on this though, because I was reading the remarks Sergeant
Fuga was out there and speaking on behalf of the
police department said they I guess he at this point
was not anticipating any charges. Now, just two days ago
(01:28):
out of Marion County, we've got another couple, mother and father,
Their six month old child was killed by one of
their dogs, and they're under arrest and facing charges. So
I'm not sure what the decision making process will be
in Columbus versus Marion, but I'd be interested to see,
(01:50):
especially since we just had a big story about, you know,
seventy three year old woman attack by dogs with a
history of being nuisances and danger in the neighborhood. But
these there's seventeen thousand on average dog attacks in the
state of Ohio each year.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Did you know that I did not, I could kind
of guess which dogs are the perpetrator.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well, and you'll notice that wasn't mentioned in any of
the coverage today, what type of dog it was. However,
I have I didn't bring it up. I have verified
with a couple of people that that indeed was the case. Yes, yes,
very it's kind of a weird scenario, and again, is
a geographic thing is I don't know. I have no
(02:36):
idea why the couple from Marion County are arrested in Columbus.
They don't anticipate charges. It's not like I'm looking for
retribution right now. I'm just looking for something to make sense,
because when a child is gone, something something in there
has to make sense. Otherwise I just go just off
(02:59):
the wall. Yesterday, Blazer and I were talking a bit
about the May primary coming up here in state Issue too.
You know me well enough to know I think at
this point that anytime the government attempts to sell me
on something by saying this is not a tax, the
first thing I'm doing is looking for how it's coming
(03:20):
out of my pocket. Anything that's not a tax that's
on the ballot you are paying for some way, somehow,
through some fee somewhere. And the same applies to issue too.
A bond issue, A bond is a loan. A loan,
(03:43):
so Ohio will borrow money to do this infrastructure work.
That issue too is supposed to take care of Although
we just passed what four or five years ago a
ten cent a gallon increase on gasoline that was supposed
to take care of our roads, and our roads have
become more crappy since then. But now we're going to
(04:04):
have a bond issue for infrastructure. I'm a little hesitant
to be happy about this. I want to know how
we're going to pay it back. And so what do
you do? Well, you go to one of the sources,
that is a member of the state legislature, Senator Steve Huffman,
who is I call it the Tip City Madman, volunteered
to join in tonight and hopefully answer some questions and
(04:26):
clarify this. Steve, how are you.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I'm doing well in yourself. I'm just horribofied by the
way you started out with this. You know, there's nothing
more valuable than a child's life and that I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
That is that we we and you know I'll be
I'll be frank with you. This is completely off the radar,
but I will be frank. You and I may end
up talking before this year is out. If this, if
this trend continues, it may be time to limit you know,
what is available and what is acceptable and legal to
have as a pet in the state of Ohio, because
these stories are just to two frequent and too payment.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Absolutely, you know, the owner needs to be responsible for
their pet in every way. And you know, we'll see
how this one worked out. You know in Marion County
it's worked out one way which they seem to be
being held responsible.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Talk to me about issue too, Steve. Where are license
plates going up? Are we looking at another state sales tax?
There's got to be a game plan somewhere in there
that we don't know about to pay back this bond.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Well, first I'll tell you that when the gas tax
went up a few years ago, I voted against that.
I was for about seven or eight cents increase because
our roads needed it. But we went way too far,
especially on the diesel side. But issue too, and I'll
explain it is not a tax increase. But what we
(05:53):
do this is I think the fifth time that the
voters have voted on it. So the state of all
high it can't go out and just borrow money. We
have to have the voters tell us it's okay. And
so this is twenty five billion over ten years, or
twenty five million two point five billion over ten years,
(06:16):
so about a quarter of a million, two hundred and
fifty million a year, and it's mostly for water sewage,
and it's we need predictability because it goes out to
city Columbus, Hilliard, Toledo. Most of the time there's some
local money that helps pay for it. But as they plan,
(06:40):
you know, they don't have you know, it might be
one hundred million dollar project and the state's going to
give them twenty you know, they need some predictability that
it's going to be there, and so we bond it
and then we pay it back over over the the
ten years of the project. And uh, it gives some predictability,
(07:03):
but we're we're you know, the taxpayers will pay it back.
But it's we do this for schools. You know, you
can't build an eighty million dollars, uh school, you don't
have the money. So you bond it out and pay
it back over the thirty years as the money comes in.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Is it Is it ever or has it ever been
the process to build in the repayment mechanism as part
of the bond issue so that people know what they're
what they're getting into. Are we going to are we
going to charge you more for these state services or
are we going to cut from the budget on other
(07:41):
state services. Like you know, any if I go into
a bank I want to start a business, I got
to give them a business plan. I'm looking as a taxpayer,
what's the business plan for this bond before I can
approve it?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Uh, the business plan is to you know, today the
House passed to offer budgets in there is a provision
to pay back and pay with interest those bonds that
have come due that you know, this program has produced
over the last you know, ten years. You know, there's
(08:16):
debt to be paid, and that it comes out of
the operating budget budget that is planned for, you know,
every time we do a budget.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Now, at the same time, the governor, I don't know
if it's his personal ambition here or if this is
kind of an overall administration thing, but I've heard that,
you know, we're looking at elimination of state sales tax
like five six years from now as a potential goal
in the state of Ohio. Something they're trying to work toward.
(08:45):
Is what.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You said, sales pas.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I'm sorry, income I've introduced for.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
The third time to get rid of the personal income.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Right, I'm sorry, Okay, So, so I mean, is that
kind of thing nullified by something like this. You pass
this bond issue, Okay, you got no chance of getting
rid of the income tax now, because hey, we got
to pay back a bond.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
We so to service. Three hundred million every year is
not that much compared to the you know, one hundred
billion dollar budgets that we're going through. So it's like
taking out a home mortgage. You don't have enough money
to pay cash for your house, but you have to
live and you have to produce these things. So it's
(09:33):
really I don't think so in my personal opinion, we
have enough back in the state government that we that
we can cut out the personal income tax over probably
the next six to eight years. But I don't think
we're going to miss out on anything because these are
projects that we need to do.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
All right, Well, I'm going to keep for you. There's
a whole lot of stuff here. I will tell you
that this began, This originated in the House, and it
was a bipartisan bill. So if that tells you anything,
just as a voter, at least go in with that
open mind and try to get it figured out.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Here.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You got to vote May six. Don't don't mess up,
and don't vote We've had a good election in the
last big one, and I want to see that kind
of momentum going before I say goodbye to you, Senator
Steve Huffman. Anything anything going on in the Ohio Senate
we don't know about, should know about, or would be
excited to hear about.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Oh yeah, you know, you know, normal course of business,
things are going well. You know, the House voted out
the budget today. We will get it and mix it
all up and by June thirtieth, I am confidence that
we will have something that with little government, little governments
and you know a lot of the tax increases that
(10:49):
the governor wanted on gaming, marijuana, cigarette tax came out
in the in the House. I think it's a real start.
I think the Senate will be able to do something
and with the governor sign in it. But as far
as issue too, you know, we've been doing this for
(11:12):
forty years, people have been voting for it. I think
the last several times had passed by the voters. It
is sixty three to sixty five percent. So it's like
taking out of mortgage. We need to pay for these
things and it's the best week that we can do
it and make it. Statement as with bonding it.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So I have to say I was glad to see
a little pushback on some of those Mike DeWine wish
list items in the budget coming from the legislature. I
think that's the last time you and I talked, actually
was I was a bit apprehensive about some of that stuff,
especially when it came to the increase in the taxes
on the sports gaming and the marijuana changes and so forth.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
It just give us to swallow. But you know, he
put them in the budgets. But at the same time,
we had to back down a number of the programs
that he was looking at and have been there for
a while because he was using them to pay for
the child tax credit and other things like that.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
There was a guy who ran, actually tried to run
for mayor of Columbus years ago, and his entire platform
seemed to center on free water. And I'll tell you what.
As I was reading through this this list of things,
this infrastructure list for issue too, and I see all
the water oriented stuff on their water, drainage, sewage, and
so forth. That's something, as crazy as it sounds. I'm
(12:37):
a capitalistic right winger to the end man, but one
of the most communistic, socialistic things will ever come out
of my mouth is I don't get why a you
pay for something that falls from the sky and be
the government is in charge of that. I've never liked
utilities being something that generates profit. You need it to live.
I have to have water to drink, to sustain life,
(12:59):
to flush, to bathe, and and it's you know, it's
controlled by a municipal government and they will cut you
off in a heartbeat if you don't have those dollars
when they want them. I've that always has bugged me philosophically.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
You know what bugs me more so in the city
that I live in. I they also build a trash
with the water. So if I don't want to pay
my pay my trash bill, or I'm mad at the
trash man, they turned my water off.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Oh man, what.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Kind of sense does that made?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
All Right? See, you and I have to get together
and just do a joint gripe night where we just
go door to door and gripe at the people in
charge of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Steve up and be careful on the drive home. We
got some rain moving in and uh and uh, you
know it's gonna be spring soon enough, so enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
When it gets here, you take care of call me
anytime you take care.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I appreciate you, buddy, thank you very much for the call. Uh,
I just I'm I'm still apprehensive. I I like and
to this point, I've got no reason to not try.
Senator Huffman, he seems to think this is this is
all in all, it's it's the norm, it's okay, it's
accounted for, it's nothing to but you who know how
(14:10):
I am. I'm a bit skeptical.
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