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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, Olympus has fallen. I don't know. For those of
you that followed me on Facebook, you know that I did. Uh.
I did take your encouraging words. Last night, I went
to the polls and and did my voting for what
(00:21):
it was worth, which was nothing. But but I still
did it. Did you did you see the results of
everything last night, Zach? You know that everything went exactly
the opposite of how I voted, right.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, well that was kind of what we expected.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, so yeah, uh, Mondani is the mayor of New
York City, which, oh my gosh, I you know, I
I I don't get it. I don't get it. He
(00:58):
got he got you know, half the votes. What was it,
fifty point two percent or something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I think, so I'll look it up real quickly.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
A lot of people, you know, say, well, if Sliva
would have dropped out, Cuomo stood a chance. Statistically, probably
not because the people who voted for Curtis Sliwa were
tired of Cuomo's But two, he was a third party
option essentially, even though in New York. New York is
(01:28):
an odd place because you can be on the ballot
two or three times. I don't know if you knew
that or not.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, it depends if like a party is, if a
party promoter or whatever the term is.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You could be on. You could be on as a Republican,
as a conservative. I think I think Cuomo was on
as a pet lover, or maybe it was Sliwa that
was on in the pet lovers party. Yes, you could
be on the ballot three or four times for the
same office, for the same election, for the same candidacy. Yes,
(01:59):
which is I'm is there a logic to that that
I don't understand? If you know, seriously, A two one, nine, eight,
eight six is my number. I'd love to know the
reasoning behind allowing someone to appear on the ballot running
for the same office under two, three, four different party affiliations.
(02:20):
Why do you not have to either pick a party
or be an independent? How can you be three or
four different things all on the same ballot and then
they have to add up, Okay, all the sleeve of
votes as a Republican, all the sleeve of votes as
a conservative, all the sleeve of votes is a pet lover.
To get why, what's the point of that? How does
(02:40):
that make things any easier, any clearer for the voters?
And then there was some kind of hubbub about the
fact that I guess Cuomo Cuomo did not appear until
like the middle of the ballot or something. Did you
hear that he was second down?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But if he looked at it, it looked weird there
their ballots have been different, they have been but they've
been the same way for fifty years. So to everybody
else it might look weird. But I'm sure to people
in New York who voted before, it probably looked normal.
But ask a poll worker if you need help.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Well do you I mean, do you have any idea
as to why they do that with the multiple party affiliations?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
No, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I don't have any idea because it just it, Like
I say, it doesn't seem like we're worried about people
not being able to, you know, come up with an
ID to vote if if that is a challenge. Don't
you think it's kind of a challenge to have somebody
on the same ballot for the same office multiple times
(03:41):
under different party headings. If they don't have the IQ
to go get an ID, how do they have IQ
to understand that kind of thing? But anyway, Mondottie is
now mayor of New York City. We will see how
that goes. As I said last, if he is even
remotely successful, I do believe that he is the best
(04:04):
possible thing to help happen to the Republicans for the midterms.
I truly mean that. I don't know how successful ultimately
he will be, but I guarantee you he's going to
He'll go in their great guns and executive orders trying
to accomplish stuff. It'll be challenged in court by one
(04:26):
person or another, or one organization or another, and it'll
wash out. But in the meantime, he will make changes.
How you can give free buses, free bus rides for everybody,
rent control, thirty dollars minimum Did you hear that thirty
dollars minimum wage. He wants to raise income taxes on
(04:50):
the one million dollars in over income earners in New
York City, so you know they're gonna leave. He wants
to raise the corporate income to from seven point five
to eleven point five percent, so you know the corporations
are going to leave. Why would they do business there
when you're going to you know, add another what third,
(05:11):
a little more than a third to their taxes thirty
eighty five thirty six percent tax increase over what they're
already paying. Why would they stay? So if the corporations
leave and the wealthy people leave, the people that are
remaining have to make thirty dollars an hour, but there's
no corporations there to hire them. The remaining corporations are
(05:32):
going to have to raise the prices of everything they
sell because they now have to pay a minimum wage
of thirty dollars an hour, And then nobody can afford
to buy their stuff, so they go out of business.
And somehow, some way this makes sense to people. The
whole concept, the whole idea of a minimum wage is
(05:55):
silly to me. I've been saying that for years. They
used to be living wage. We need a living wage. Well,
it's fifteen dollars an hour. Why isn't it twenty five?
Why isn't it thirty? Why isn't it fifty dollars an hour.
Let's make the minimum wage for the living minimum wage
fifty dollars an hour. Why not? Well that's too much?
(06:18):
Wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, why is it
too much? You see, you can't have that argument if
you support a government mandated value to an employee. And
then you want to argue that there is a value
that's too high, you're arguing against yourself. One time, one
(06:48):
time in my life, and I've shared this before, I
worked for minimum wage one time, and it's because the
trade off was I got to be on the air
in Columbus, and I wanted to be on the air
in Columbus. So I left a job back in nineteen
ninety that was paying me six dollars an hour is
(07:10):
a part time radio guy to come to Columbus for
four fifty an hour. But I was leaving a small
AM station to come to an FM station in the
capital city. So that was the trade off that was
worth the buck and a half hour difference. That had
(07:31):
its value too, and I knew what it was, and
that was a stepping stone to bigger and hopefully better things.
I did not take that job in nineteen ninety with
the assumption that I would continue working for minimum wage.
It was a stepping stone to something more. That's what
(07:52):
it's supposed to be a starting point, a beginning. And
people who say I can't I can't pay the bills,
I can't support a family on minimum wage, You're not
supposed to. Ideally, you start a family when you can
start a family, not because you got drunk one night.
(08:20):
You take the minimum wage job to get yourself started.
You want to be in the corporate world. They offer
you a minimum wage to work in the mailroom. You
take it, and you'll work your way up to an
office job sitting at a desk somewhere. Maybe it pays
a minimum wage plus forty percent. And you show that
you're good at that, and they say, you know what,
we're gonna give you a We're gonna give you a
management position here in the department, and that's that's minimum
(08:43):
wage plus one hundred percent. Well, we're gonna make you
a senior management in this department because you're really showing off. Well,
that's a minimum wage plus two hundred percent. And then
you think, okay, you know it's it's uh, I've got
some money coming in, I've got some I've got some substantiabilities.
What sort of a sustainability to my job here, something
(09:07):
substantial in the bank. I'm ready to take on a spouse,
take on a family, have some kids, buy a house,
do that kind of thing. That's how ideally life works.
But people come out of high school and they think
they should be the CEO and make enough money before
their twenty first birthday to raise fifteen children and live
(09:27):
in a six bedroom house. No, no, that's not realistic.
That's idealistic, that's utopian. It's not the way things work
unless your name is Mondani and you have managed to
convince a whole bunch of people in what was and
(09:50):
soon will not be the greatest city in the United States.
And when I say great, I don't mean like a
you know, wonderful, I mean great, like large, eight million people,
financial companies, Wall Street, Broadway, so much to offer. How
(10:14):
much of that will be there in two years? The
Trump backed governor candidate in New Jersey lost. I'm pretty
sure Prop fifty passed in California, right. I gave up last.
I could only watch coverage for so long then I
had to, you know, get silly in sleep. But the
(10:37):
margin for a Proposition fifty in California I think was
fairly substantial, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Act Yeah, it passed too.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
What was the plus and minus on that.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Prop fifty?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Hang on? Even Schwarzenegger, who has become more and more
liberal since leaving office, he was governor of California as
a Republican. But even he said, you know, this proposition,
it's a terrible idea. Look, when you've got a state
like Massachusetts, Massachusetts where forty percent of the vote in
(11:16):
the presidential election went for Donald Trump, and you have
no representatives in the House of Representatives representing that state
that are Republicans, You've got a problem. We have a
state like New Mexico, forty five percent of the vote
goes for Trump, you have zero, zero Republicans as representatives
(11:41):
of that state where Trump had a forty five percent
majority of the vote. This this is what jerry mandering does.
And when Democrats are in control, they jerrymandered the hell
out of the state.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
California. Proposition fifty seventy five percent of the vote is
in It passed sixty three to thirty six.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
There will be no Republican representation in the House of
Representatives from the state of California in two years. You
think I'm joking, It's already there in front of you.
It's already being done in other states. And I'm not
saying it's exclusively to you know, a Democrat thing. Republicans
will do the same thing. Man, if they've got control
(12:24):
of drawing the lines, they'll do the same thing. The
problem is that right now we're in a situation where
the Democrats around the country you said, Republicans are Republicans
are Republicans, will do the same thing you're doing, using
the system as it exists to draw boundaries that create
(12:46):
advantage for their party period. I admit to being blatantly disappointed,
not only in the losses, but in there's a margin
of the losses, both on the candidates and at Prop
(13:06):
fifty in California or what we would call an issue
here in Ohio. I don't know where. I don't know
where it's going to take us, but I fear it
takes us somewhere negative. And I don't know quite frankly,
that once people figure out how negative their position has become,
(13:29):
that there's enough time to bail them out. Because Donald
Trump has gone in twenty eight who's going to fix it?
When you see everything can't be free and wages can't
be artificially created, who's going to fix it? Because it
(13:52):
won't be him? Or again, maybe that's just me
Well, Olympus has fallen. I don't know. For those of
you that followed me on Facebook, you know that I did. Uh.
I did take your encouraging words. Last night, I went
to the polls and and did my voting for what
(00:21):
it was worth, which was nothing. But but I still
did it. Did you did you see the results of
everything last night, Zach? You know that everything went exactly
the opposite of how I voted, right.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, well that was kind of what we expected.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, so yeah, uh, Mondani is the mayor of New
York City, which, oh my gosh, I you know, I
I I don't get it. I don't get it. He
(00:58):
got he got you know, half the votes. What was it,
fifty point two percent or something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I think, so I'll look it up real quickly.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
A lot of people, you know, say, well, if Sliva
would have dropped out, Cuomo stood a chance. Statistically, probably
not because the people who voted for Curtis Sliwa were
tired of Cuomo's But two, he was a third party
option essentially, even though in New York. New York is
(01:28):
an odd place because you can be on the ballot
two or three times. I don't know if you knew
that or not.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, it depends if like a party is, if a
party promoter or whatever the term is.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You could be on. You could be on as a Republican,
as a conservative. I think I think Cuomo was on
as a pet lover, or maybe it was Sliwa that
was on in the pet lovers party. Yes, you could
be on the ballot three or four times for the
same office, for the same election, for the same candidacy. Yes,
(01:59):
which is I'm is there a logic to that that
I don't understand? If you know, seriously, A two one, nine, eight,
eight six is my number. I'd love to know the
reasoning behind allowing someone to appear on the ballot running
for the same office under two, three, four different party affiliations.
(02:20):
Why do you not have to either pick a party
or be an independent? How can you be three or
four different things all on the same ballot and then
they have to add up, Okay, all the sleeve of
votes as a Republican, all the sleeve of votes as
a conservative, all the sleeve of votes is a pet lover.
To get why, what's the point of that? How does
(02:40):
that make things any easier, any clearer for the voters?
And then there was some kind of hubbub about the
fact that I guess Cuomo Cuomo did not appear until
like the middle of the ballot or something. Did you
hear that he was second down?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But if he looked at it, it looked weird there
their ballots have been different, they have been but they've
been the same way for fifty years. So to everybody
else it might look weird. But I'm sure to people
in New York who voted before, it probably looked normal.
But ask a poll worker if you need help.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Well do you I mean, do you have any idea
as to why they do that with the multiple party affiliations?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
No, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I don't have any idea because it just it, Like
I say, it doesn't seem like we're worried about people
not being able to, you know, come up with an
ID to vote if if that is a challenge. Don't
you think it's kind of a challenge to have somebody
on the same ballot for the same office multiple times
(03:41):
under different party headings. If they don't have the IQ
to go get an ID, how do they have IQ
to understand that kind of thing? But anyway, Mondottie is
now mayor of New York City. We will see how
that goes. As I said last, if he is even
remotely successful, I do believe that he is the best
(04:04):
possible thing to help happen to the Republicans for the midterms.
I truly mean that. I don't know how successful ultimately
he will be, but I guarantee you he's going to
He'll go in their great guns and executive orders trying
to accomplish stuff. It'll be challenged in court by one
(04:26):
person or another, or one organization or another, and it'll
wash out. But in the meantime, he will make changes.
How you can give free buses, free bus rides for everybody,
rent control, thirty dollars minimum Did you hear that thirty
dollars minimum wage. He wants to raise income taxes on
(04:50):
the one million dollars in over income earners in New
York City, so you know they're gonna leave. He wants
to raise the corporate income to from seven point five
to eleven point five percent, so you know the corporations
are going to leave. Why would they do business there
when you're going to you know, add another what third,
(05:11):
a little more than a third to their taxes thirty
eighty five thirty six percent tax increase over what they're
already paying. Why would they stay? So if the corporations
leave and the wealthy people leave, the people that are
remaining have to make thirty dollars an hour, but there's
no corporations there to hire them. The remaining corporations are
(05:32):
going to have to raise the prices of everything they
sell because they now have to pay a minimum wage
of thirty dollars an hour, And then nobody can afford
to buy their stuff, so they go out of business.
And somehow, some way this makes sense to people. The
whole concept, the whole idea of a minimum wage is
(05:55):
silly to me. I've been saying that for years. They
used to be living wage. We need a living wage. Well,
it's fifteen dollars an hour. Why isn't it twenty five?
Why isn't it thirty? Why isn't it fifty dollars an hour.
Let's make the minimum wage for the living minimum wage
fifty dollars an hour. Why not? Well that's too much?
(06:18):
Wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, why is it
too much? You see, you can't have that argument if
you support a government mandated value to an employee. And
then you want to argue that there is a value
that's too high, you're arguing against yourself. One time, one
(06:48):
time in my life, and I've shared this before, I
worked for minimum wage one time, and it's because the
trade off was I got to be on the air
in Columbus, and I wanted to be on the air
in Columbus. So I left a job back in nineteen
ninety that was paying me six dollars an hour is
(07:10):
a part time radio guy to come to Columbus for
four fifty an hour. But I was leaving a small
AM station to come to an FM station in the
capital city. So that was the trade off that was
worth the buck and a half hour difference. That had
(07:31):
its value too, and I knew what it was, and
that was a stepping stone to bigger and hopefully better things.
I did not take that job in nineteen ninety with
the assumption that I would continue working for minimum wage.
It was a stepping stone to something more. That's what
(07:52):
it's supposed to be a starting point, a beginning. And
people who say I can't I can't pay the bills,
I can't support a family on minimum wage, You're not
supposed to. Ideally, you start a family when you can
start a family, not because you got drunk one night.
(08:20):
You take the minimum wage job to get yourself started.
You want to be in the corporate world. They offer
you a minimum wage to work in the mailroom. You
take it, and you'll work your way up to an
office job sitting at a desk somewhere. Maybe it pays
a minimum wage plus forty percent. And you show that
you're good at that, and they say, you know what,
we're gonna give you a We're gonna give you a
management position here in the department, and that's that's minimum
(08:43):
wage plus one hundred percent. Well, we're gonna make you
a senior management in this department because you're really showing off. Well,
that's a minimum wage plus two hundred percent. And then
you think, okay, you know it's it's uh, I've got
some money coming in, I've got some I've got some substantiabilities.
What sort of a sustainability to my job here, something
(09:07):
substantial in the bank. I'm ready to take on a spouse,
take on a family, have some kids, buy a house,
do that kind of thing. That's how ideally life works.
But people come out of high school and they think
they should be the CEO and make enough money before
their twenty first birthday to raise fifteen children and live
(09:27):
in a six bedroom house. No, no, that's not realistic.
That's idealistic, that's utopian. It's not the way things work
unless your name is Mondani and you have managed to
convince a whole bunch of people in what was and
(09:50):
soon will not be the greatest city in the United States.
And when I say great, I don't mean like a
you know, wonderful, I mean great, like large, eight million people,
financial companies, Wall Street, Broadway, so much to offer. How
(10:14):
much of that will be there in two years? The
Trump backed governor candidate in New Jersey lost. I'm pretty
sure Prop fifty passed in California, right. I gave up last.
I could only watch coverage for so long then I
had to, you know, get silly in sleep. But the
(10:37):
margin for a Proposition fifty in California I think was
fairly substantial, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Act Yeah, it passed too.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
What was the plus and minus on that.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Prop fifty?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Hang on? Even Schwarzenegger, who has become more and more
liberal since leaving office, he was governor of California as
a Republican. But even he said, you know, this proposition,
it's a terrible idea. Look, when you've got a state
like Massachusetts, Massachusetts where forty percent of the vote in
(11:16):
the presidential election went for Donald Trump, and you have
no representatives in the House of Representatives representing that state
that are Republicans, You've got a problem. We have a
state like New Mexico, forty five percent of the vote
goes for Trump, you have zero, zero Republicans as representatives
(11:41):
of that state where Trump had a forty five percent
majority of the vote. This this is what jerry mandering does.
And when Democrats are in control, they jerrymandered the hell
out of the state.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
California. Proposition fifty seventy five percent of the vote is
in It passed sixty three to thirty six.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
There will be no Republican representation in the House of
Representatives from the state of California in two years. You
think I'm joking, It's already there in front of you.
It's already being done in other states. And I'm not
saying it's exclusively to you know, a Democrat thing. Republicans
will do the same thing. Man, if they've got control
(12:24):
of drawing the lines, they'll do the same thing. The
problem is that right now we're in a situation where
the Democrats around the country you said, Republicans are Republicans
are Republicans, will do the same thing you're doing, using
the system as it exists to draw boundaries that create
(12:46):
advantage for their party period. I admit to being blatantly disappointed,
not only in the losses, but in there's a margin
of the losses, both on the candidates and at Prop
(13:06):
fifty in California or what we would call an issue
here in Ohio. I don't know where. I don't know
where it's going to take us, but I fear it
takes us somewhere negative. And I don't know quite frankly,
that once people figure out how negative their position has become,
(13:29):
that there's enough time to bail them out. Because Donald
Trump has gone in twenty eight who's going to fix it?
When you see everything can't be free and wages can't
be artificially created, who's going to fix it? Because it
(13:52):
won't be him? Or again, maybe that's just me
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