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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Greeting salitations. Welcome my friends to another edition of The
Power Hour on six ten w TV. Yeah, I'm Chuck Douglass.
You know who you are. Me take it from there.
We get one hour together, which means I talked really
fast and you must listen even fast. My number eight
two on nine eight eight six eight two one WTV
in or one eight hundred sixty ten WTV, and lots
(00:25):
of stuff that I want to just I want to
cram in. I gotta cram stuff in. I mean just
just because there's there's there's one hour. First of all,
earlier the Pope, the new Pope, Pope Leo the fourteenth. Well,
I'm looking at him on TV. They had him on
TV in a just a suit, not a pope thing,
but just a regular suit, and I'm thinking he kind
(00:46):
of reminds me of Barack Obama, and apparently there's a
reason for that. Also, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
I can only sympathize a little bit, but not much.
Burger King being sued and maybe some people think it's
about time, and I want to start things off with
(01:06):
this question. Has urban Meyer lost his dag onlind Have
you seen this story yet, Zachary, do you know what
I'm talking about? When it comes to former Ohio State
University football coach Urban.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Meyer, Yeah, he wants to ban Michigan, Right.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Wow, Why that's just nuts. The post urban Meyer wants
a Michigan football lifetime ban over NCAA violations appeared first
on something called clutch Points. With the Michigan football program
facing suspensions, urban Meyer doesn't think that is enough. After
(01:40):
the Wolverines program had numerous violations, The former Ohio State
head coach thinks there should be more punishment. He elaborated
more on the Triple Option show. I don't know whose
show is that? You know? Is that ESPN? I don't
even know where that is? No, I am, He says,
if you lie as a call it, Oh see, hey,
this is dangerous, ERVN, this is dangerous if you lie
(02:08):
as a college football coach to the NCAA. In my
personal opinion, you're finished. You're done. That's not making a
text message. That's not going to lunch with someone you're
not supposed to go to lunch with. That's not sending
a letter when you're not supposed to. All of the
frivolous Level three frivolous level threes and all that nonsense.
(02:31):
When they got you and they say did you do this?
And they refuse to cooperate or they refused or they lied.
In my very strong opinion, you're finished coaching in Division
one college football or basketball. Guess what happens. The risk
now is too high, and I don't think you'd ever
see this kind of stuff again. Already here there or
(02:54):
the already here is that Meyer himself is a former
Ohio State coach. The Michigan fandom will likely disregard what
Meyer has to say. However, he makes a compelling argument.
I think see there's But basically what they're saying is
Ohio State fans might say ra ro because he's a four.
I would think, honestly, seriously, truly, I would think Ohio
State football fans, if you call yourself a real Ohio
(03:17):
State football fan, the last thing you want is for
Michigan to not be Michigan. I mean, defeating them at
the end of each season is what you live for, right.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
If you take Michigan away, then it's championship or busting
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Those are nice. Championships are nice, but beating Michigan is
an imperative. I just I don't know, No, I don't
know where the coach's head is on this. And you
remember he was such a you know, a local boy,
done good with Ohio State University, and people said we
(03:57):
wanted him because he had his roots here and all
this kind of stuff. I would think as much as
anyone else, if not more than most urban Meyer would
know the importance of maintaining Michigan's prominence in the NCAA
football I just this is this is.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Nuts right, and Michigan, I'm pretty sure Michigan has the
head to head to lead against Ohio State, so you
want to at least tie it back up before they
get kicked off forever. Well, yet he's the superior team, you.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Know, see you just you You want to get beaten
up in parking lots, don't you. You're just hoping somebody
recognizes you when you go grocery shopping. Just beats the
snot out of you. Mister Michigan is Oh my gosh,
he doesn't mean it. He's just saying that to get
your goat. If you don't have a goat, go get
what and then he'll get it. But but he doesn't
(04:51):
mean that, but I just think this is this is uh.
I don't know Coach Meer, but I'd love to have
a serious talk with him about this. I'm just I'm baffled, befuddled,
and bewildered, lots of bees and that he would even
(05:17):
come up with something like this. The last thing we
would want is a lifetime ban of Michigan football. Or
maybe that's just me. Maybe you think it'd be great
if we didn't have a two one ninety eighty six.
You're welcome to argue and tell me you disagree. You'll
be wrong, of course, but still you're welcome to do that.
(05:39):
I just I saw that headlined. I'm normally not somebody
who goes, you know, berserk over sports stuff, but that
that just came across as just unbelievable. I clicked on
the story to read it because I think, Okay, is
this a Babylon bee thing? Is this an onion thing?
Is this you know? Is there a sports onion that
(06:01):
I don't know about? This can't be real, but it
appears to be real that he I just don't get that.
I'm sorry, it does not make any sense to me
at all. You want football is like the gladiators of
old and seeing these guys in the arena fighting their
(06:29):
their their nemesis is what it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Especially when you're down nine games, you know what I mean.
But especially when you're the head to head rivalry and
you're down nine games.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You know what if Ohio State had a terrible, terrible season,
like lost everything, and then beat Michigan the last there
would be something redeeming about that. There really would. I
was about to push the button here and go to Dan,
and Dan disappeared on it. Did you say something rude
to Dan? No?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
He said he wanted to talk about football, and I said.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Okay, and then he disappeared. Yeap, huh.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I am nice to everybody who.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Calls, oh my gosh, no you're not. I've heard stories
the new Pope, the new Pope is I mean, he
was born here. Many people saying, well, he's been in
Peruvian citizen, he's been living in Peru for thirty years,
and so forth. What struck me today is that as
(07:28):
the video was rolling, I think it was Fox News.
It was on in the studio. We've got monitors all
over this building. I think it was Fox. But they
were showing him speaking and he was wearing just a
regular brave business suit. It wasn't you know, his cardinal stuff.
And as I'm looking at him, his physical features and
(07:48):
so forth, and just the turn of his head and
his movement, I honestly was thinking, you know, he kind
of reminds me of Barack Obama, which I know sounds crazy, right. Well, no,
because apparently multiple genealogists are now checking in, including Louisiana
(08:09):
Creole expert Jari Hanorra from the Historic New Orleans Collection,
traced this new pope's ancestry back to the black community
of New Orleans. I can't believe, being that, you know,
race is all important in media matters anymore, I can't
(08:31):
believe they're not all over this first black pope. Well
he's not. Actually there was another black pope which like
the year four and ninety six I think it was. Yeah,
he was of African decent if I'm not mistaken. But yeah,
I can't believe this is not a big deal to
(08:52):
the media, that they're not pounding this story left and right,
that you know, this guy with his ancestry apparently on
his mom's side was African American and she lived in
the New Orleans Creole area until they moved to Chicago,
and Leo the fourteenth is not known to a publicly
(09:15):
commented on his African ancestry, which is part of a
mixed heritage also includes French, Italian, and Spanish roots. According
to the US Census, his mother, the late Mildred, was
a mixed race daughter of a black property owner and
an Italian born Joseph Martinez Italian born Oh, I'm sorry,
(09:37):
Haitian born jose I told you these glasses stink. Haitian
born Joseph Martinez and New Orleans native Louise. I'm gonna
go with Basquai, who was a Creole, which were like
Black Americans with French roots, I think. But anyway, that
(09:57):
explains why when I saw him, I thought he kind
of minds me of Barack Obama. He does have this
mixed heritage ancestry. And the way things work in at
least here in the United States is, you know, you
could be like fifty eight different things, but if black
guy's one of them, your birth certificate says black. I
don't know if they still do that or not, but
that's I mean, that's how it was with mine. I
(10:20):
say that all the time people. But now that's not
all I guess that. Yes, there is way, Yes, there
is way. And well, which one of you, which one
of your parents? What's black? Which one? My parents look
just like me? Never met my grandfather on my dad's side,
but I met my grandma. She looked just like me.
(10:40):
My grandma on my mom's side looked just like me.
Grandpa on the mom's side looked just like me. But
somewhere along the line, somebody black sneaked in there, just
tipped up one night and the next thing, you know. Yeah,
the birth certificate says negro, and my family is a
(11:03):
veritable hodgepodge of complexions and skin tones and so forth.
Does that say my birth certificate says I was born
a male Negro?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yes, they did back then.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I don't think they do now because I don't know,
is it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I don't I've just never heard in a long time.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I don't negro. There's there's a negron, there's uh uh.
The Spanish word for the color black is negro. I
don't consider it offensive, you know what. I don't consider
any word offensive. Words themselves are just words, that's all
they are. They are words. They are phonetic structures. That's it.
(11:43):
Now your intention behind the word, how you use it,
that determines whether or not it is offensive to me.
So you know you describe me as, oh, yeah, the
the bull guy. I don't care unless you're like, yeah,
the bold guy. Okay, now there's fighting words, same words,
(12:06):
different intent. Suddenly it's offensive. But I think we put
way too much stock into that hole. You know, he
he used offensive language. It's that that's hate speech. No
hate speech depends on whether or not you hate somebody
when you're talking about him, doesn't it. I'm just I'm sorry.
(12:26):
I'm so common sense. I scare myself sometimes. The idea,
the idea, and I don't know what a little what
a little white children have on their birth certificates back then?
Did it say whitey or a cracker or what I mean?
I don't I have no Was it Caucasian, which is
actually of calcazoid comes from caulcazoid, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I haven't any idea.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
What does that? Negroid and calcazoid, the dark complected and
the white complected, those are I think the the more
scientific terms. Well I learned something, then yeah, people say, well,
so so what do you identify as Chuck. That's pretty much. Yet,
I grew up my street where I grew up, on
(13:13):
my beloved West Side. Over there on the hilltop Belvedere
Avenue was a veritable United Nations. There was everybody, everybody
on my all kinds of colors, ages, backgrounds. I listen
to me, listen, this is gospel, people, I am telling
you the absolute truth. I had no idea what my
(13:36):
ethnicity was until Columbus City Schools started desegregation, until nineteen
seventy six, when Judge Robert Duncan decided that the best
way to solve racial inequalities and Columbus was to send
all the poor black kids to the rich white schools
and take all those rich white kids and send them
(13:57):
to poor black schools. That made sense to somebody some sometime.
But they were counting kids in the classroom in preparation
for the next year's desegregation, and they called down and
they said, miss Cannon, I'm surely Cannon. She was my
sixth grade teacher, Miss Cannon, we need to count, please,
(14:20):
And she said, I don't know what it was like,
number one eleven, number two, thirteen. And I was bright
enough to know ones and twos in the Gray book
were black kids and white kids. White kids were number one,
of course, because that's the way society had it, you
know what I'm saying. And two's were black kids. And
(14:40):
I said, you got too many two's in there. And
she said, well, what are you, Charles. I said, I'm
a one. She said, no, you're too I said, no,
I'm a one. George is a two. I'm a one,
which is hilarious because George ended up married to one
of my sisters. But they took me to the office again. People, listen,
this is gospel. I'm telling you the truth. They took
(15:02):
me to the office and made me call home and
ask my mommy what color I was.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And she told you.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
She said, if they have to put a label on you,
you just tell them you are colored. I mean color,
what color? What are you talking? I'll explain when you
get home. So I got home and Mom had all
these pictures laid out on the table, I mean black
and white photos. Old She had some ten types from
the Old West type. There ten types of relatives, and
(15:33):
there were American Indians in there, and there were slaves
in there, and there were slave owners in there, and
she said, this is your family. These are the people
that came together to make you. I said, so all
had different kinds of people, and said, yes, that's why
she didn't want me to be colored or black. She
(15:54):
want me to be colored because she said, you're American, Indian,
and you are African, and you are He'll Billy, and
you are you all kinds of stuff, but we don't
care about that. I said, no, I don't care. She said,
so what do you think. I said, I'm gonna go play,
and I went out and played with my buddy Brian.
That was the end of it.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I was pretty confused for a while. What I was
took a while, so they had to explain it to
me like that too.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, with the beard, it's male is pretty obvious, will
I know? But seriously that that is how I found
out about ethnicity. And so there's no word anybody can
use around me, not even the dreaded in word, unless
they mean to offend me. I mean, I grew up.
(16:41):
I got my sense of humor listening to Richard Pryor.
Words are just words. Intent means everything.
Greeting salitations. Welcome my friends to another edition of The
Power Hour on six ten w TV. Yeah, I'm Chuck Douglass.
You know who you are. Me take it from there.
We get one hour together, which means I talked really
fast and you must listen even fast. My number eight
two on nine eight eight six eight two one WTV
in or one eight hundred sixty ten WTV, and lots
(00:25):
of stuff that I want to just I want to
cram in. I gotta cram stuff in. I mean just
just because there's there's there's one hour. First of all,
earlier the Pope, the new Pope, Pope Leo the fourteenth. Well,
I'm looking at him on TV. They had him on
TV in a just a suit, not a pope thing,
but just a regular suit, and I'm thinking he kind
(00:46):
of reminds me of Barack Obama, and apparently there's a
reason for that. Also, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
I can only sympathize a little bit, but not much.
Burger King being sued and maybe some people think it's
about time, and I want to start things off with
(01:06):
this question. Has urban Meyer lost his dag onlind Have
you seen this story yet, Zachary, do you know what
I'm talking about? When it comes to former Ohio State
University football coach Urban.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Meyer, Yeah, he wants to ban Michigan, Right.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Wow, Why that's just nuts. The post urban Meyer wants
a Michigan football lifetime ban over NCAA violations appeared first
on something called clutch Points. With the Michigan football program
facing suspensions, urban Meyer doesn't think that is enough. After
(01:40):
the Wolverines program had numerous violations, The former Ohio State
head coach thinks there should be more punishment. He elaborated
more on the Triple Option show. I don't know whose
show is that? You know? Is that ESPN? I don't
even know where that is? No, I am, He says,
if you lie as a call it, Oh see, hey,
this is dangerous, ERVN, this is dangerous if you lie
(02:08):
as a college football coach to the NCAA. In my
personal opinion, you're finished. You're done. That's not making a
text message. That's not going to lunch with someone you're
not supposed to go to lunch with. That's not sending
a letter when you're not supposed to. All of the
frivolous Level three frivolous level threes and all that nonsense.
(02:31):
When they got you and they say did you do this?
And they refuse to cooperate or they refused or they lied.
In my very strong opinion, you're finished coaching in Division
one college football or basketball. Guess what happens. The risk
now is too high, and I don't think you'd ever
see this kind of stuff again. Already here there or
(02:54):
the already here is that Meyer himself is a former
Ohio State coach. The Michigan fandom will likely disregard what
Meyer has to say. However, he makes a compelling argument.
I think see there's But basically what they're saying is
Ohio State fans might say ra ro because he's a four.
I would think, honestly, seriously, truly, I would think Ohio
State football fans, if you call yourself a real Ohio
(03:17):
State football fan, the last thing you want is for
Michigan to not be Michigan. I mean, defeating them at
the end of each season is what you live for, right.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
If you take Michigan away, then it's championship or busting
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Those are nice. Championships are nice, but beating Michigan is
an imperative. I just I don't know, No, I don't
know where the coach's head is on this. And you
remember he was such a you know, a local boy,
done good with Ohio State University, and people said we
(03:57):
wanted him because he had his roots here and all
this kind of stuff. I would think as much as
anyone else, if not more than most urban Meyer would
know the importance of maintaining Michigan's prominence in the NCAA
football I just this is this is.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Nuts right, and Michigan, I'm pretty sure Michigan has the
head to head to lead against Ohio State, so you
want to at least tie it back up before they
get kicked off forever. Well, yet he's the superior team, you.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Know, see you just you You want to get beaten
up in parking lots, don't you. You're just hoping somebody
recognizes you when you go grocery shopping. Just beats the
snot out of you. Mister Michigan is Oh my gosh,
he doesn't mean it. He's just saying that to get
your goat. If you don't have a goat, go get
what and then he'll get it. But but he doesn't
(04:51):
mean that, but I just think this is this is uh.
I don't know Coach Meer, but I'd love to have
a serious talk with him about this. I'm just I'm baffled, befuddled,
and bewildered, lots of bees and that he would even
(05:17):
come up with something like this. The last thing we
would want is a lifetime ban of Michigan football. Or
maybe that's just me. Maybe you think it'd be great
if we didn't have a two one ninety eighty six.
You're welcome to argue and tell me you disagree. You'll
be wrong, of course, but still you're welcome to do that.
(05:39):
I just I saw that headlined. I'm normally not somebody
who goes, you know, berserk over sports stuff, but that
that just came across as just unbelievable. I clicked on
the story to read it because I think, Okay, is
this a Babylon bee thing? Is this an onion thing?
Is this you know? Is there a sports onion that
(06:01):
I don't know about? This can't be real, but it
appears to be real that he I just don't get that.
I'm sorry, it does not make any sense to me
at all. You want football is like the gladiators of
old and seeing these guys in the arena fighting their
(06:29):
their their nemesis is what it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Especially when you're down nine games, you know what I mean.
But especially when you're the head to head rivalry and
you're down nine games.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You know what if Ohio State had a terrible, terrible season,
like lost everything, and then beat Michigan the last there
would be something redeeming about that. There really would. I
was about to push the button here and go to Dan,
and Dan disappeared on it. Did you say something rude
to Dan? No?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
He said he wanted to talk about football, and I said.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Okay, and then he disappeared. Yeap, huh.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I am nice to everybody who.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Calls, oh my gosh, no you're not. I've heard stories
the new Pope, the new Pope is I mean, he
was born here. Many people saying, well, he's been in
Peruvian citizen, he's been living in Peru for thirty years,
and so forth. What struck me today is that as
(07:28):
the video was rolling, I think it was Fox News.
It was on in the studio. We've got monitors all
over this building. I think it was Fox. But they
were showing him speaking and he was wearing just a
regular brave business suit. It wasn't you know, his cardinal stuff.
And as I'm looking at him, his physical features and
(07:48):
so forth, and just the turn of his head and
his movement, I honestly was thinking, you know, he kind
of reminds me of Barack Obama, which I know sounds crazy, right. Well, no,
because apparently multiple genealogists are now checking in, including Louisiana
(08:09):
Creole expert Jari Hanorra from the Historic New Orleans Collection,
traced this new pope's ancestry back to the black community
of New Orleans. I can't believe, being that, you know,
race is all important in media matters anymore, I can't
(08:31):
believe they're not all over this first black pope. Well
he's not. Actually there was another black pope which like
the year four and ninety six I think it was. Yeah,
he was of African decent if I'm not mistaken. But yeah,
I can't believe this is not a big deal to
(08:52):
the media, that they're not pounding this story left and right,
that you know, this guy with his ancestry apparently on
his mom's side was African American and she lived in
the New Orleans Creole area until they moved to Chicago,
and Leo the fourteenth is not known to a publicly
(09:15):
commented on his African ancestry, which is part of a
mixed heritage also includes French, Italian, and Spanish roots. According
to the US Census, his mother, the late Mildred, was
a mixed race daughter of a black property owner and
an Italian born Joseph Martinez Italian born Oh, I'm sorry,
(09:37):
Haitian born jose I told you these glasses stink. Haitian
born Joseph Martinez and New Orleans native Louise. I'm gonna
go with Basquai, who was a Creole, which were like
Black Americans with French roots, I think. But anyway, that
(09:57):
explains why when I saw him, I thought he kind
of minds me of Barack Obama. He does have this
mixed heritage ancestry. And the way things work in at
least here in the United States is, you know, you
could be like fifty eight different things, but if black
guy's one of them, your birth certificate says black. I
don't know if they still do that or not, but
that's I mean, that's how it was with mine. I
(10:20):
say that all the time people. But now that's not
all I guess that. Yes, there is way, Yes, there
is way. And well, which one of you, which one
of your parents? What's black? Which one? My parents look
just like me? Never met my grandfather on my dad's side,
but I met my grandma. She looked just like me.
(10:40):
My grandma on my mom's side looked just like me.
Grandpa on the mom's side looked just like me. But
somewhere along the line, somebody black sneaked in there, just
tipped up one night and the next thing, you know. Yeah,
the birth certificate says negro, and my family is a
(11:03):
veritable hodgepodge of complexions and skin tones and so forth.
Does that say my birth certificate says I was born
a male Negro?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yes, they did back then.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I don't think they do now because I don't know,
is it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I don't I've just never heard in a long time.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I don't negro. There's there's a negron, there's uh uh.
The Spanish word for the color black is negro. I
don't consider it offensive, you know what. I don't consider
any word offensive. Words themselves are just words, that's all
they are. They are words. They are phonetic structures. That's it.
(11:43):
Now your intention behind the word, how you use it,
that determines whether or not it is offensive to me.
So you know you describe me as, oh, yeah, the
the bull guy. I don't care unless you're like, yeah,
the bold guy. Okay, now there's fighting words, same words,
(12:06):
different intent. Suddenly it's offensive. But I think we put
way too much stock into that hole. You know, he
he used offensive language. It's that that's hate speech. No
hate speech depends on whether or not you hate somebody
when you're talking about him, doesn't it. I'm just I'm sorry.
(12:26):
I'm so common sense. I scare myself sometimes. The idea,
the idea, and I don't know what a little what
a little white children have on their birth certificates back then?
Did it say whitey or a cracker or what I mean?
I don't I have no Was it Caucasian, which is
actually of calcazoid comes from caulcazoid, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I haven't any idea.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
What does that? Negroid and calcazoid, the dark complected and
the white complected, those are I think the the more
scientific terms. Well I learned something, then yeah, people say, well,
so so what do you identify as Chuck. That's pretty much. Yet,
I grew up my street where I grew up, on
(13:13):
my beloved West Side. Over there on the hilltop Belvedere
Avenue was a veritable United Nations. There was everybody, everybody
on my all kinds of colors, ages, backgrounds. I listen
to me, listen, this is gospel, people, I am telling
you the absolute truth. I had no idea what my
(13:36):
ethnicity was until Columbus City Schools started desegregation, until nineteen
seventy six, when Judge Robert Duncan decided that the best
way to solve racial inequalities and Columbus was to send
all the poor black kids to the rich white schools
and take all those rich white kids and send them
(13:57):
to poor black schools. That made sense to somebody some sometime.
But they were counting kids in the classroom in preparation
for the next year's desegregation, and they called down and
they said, miss Cannon, I'm surely Cannon. She was my
sixth grade teacher, Miss Cannon, we need to count, please,
(14:20):
And she said, I don't know what it was like,
number one eleven, number two, thirteen. And I was bright
enough to know ones and twos in the Gray book
were black kids and white kids. White kids were number one,
of course, because that's the way society had it, you
know what I'm saying. And two's were black kids. And
(14:40):
I said, you got too many two's in there. And
she said, well, what are you, Charles. I said, I'm
a one. She said, no, you're too I said, no,
I'm a one. George is a two. I'm a one,
which is hilarious because George ended up married to one
of my sisters. But they took me to the office again. People, listen,
this is gospel. I'm telling you the truth. They took
(15:02):
me to the office and made me call home and
ask my mommy what color I was.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And she told you.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
She said, if they have to put a label on you,
you just tell them you are colored. I mean color,
what color? What are you talking? I'll explain when you
get home. So I got home and Mom had all
these pictures laid out on the table, I mean black
and white photos. Old She had some ten types from
the Old West type. There ten types of relatives, and
(15:33):
there were American Indians in there, and there were slaves
in there, and there were slave owners in there, and
she said, this is your family. These are the people
that came together to make you. I said, so all
had different kinds of people, and said, yes, that's why
she didn't want me to be colored or black. She
(15:54):
want me to be colored because she said, you're American, Indian,
and you are African, and you are He'll Billy, and
you are you all kinds of stuff, but we don't
care about that. I said, no, I don't care. She said,
so what do you think. I said, I'm gonna go play,
and I went out and played with my buddy Brian.
That was the end of it.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I was pretty confused for a while. What I was
took a while, so they had to explain it to
me like that too.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, with the beard, it's male is pretty obvious, will
I know? But seriously that that is how I found
out about ethnicity. And so there's no word anybody can
use around me, not even the dreaded in word, unless
they mean to offend me. I mean, I grew up.
(16:41):
I got my sense of humor listening to Richard Pryor.
Words are just words. Intent means everything.
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