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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Greeting salutations, my friends, welcome to another edition of the
Power Hour. I'm chucked unless you know who you are.
We take it from there. We get one hour together,
which means I talk really fast and you must listen
even faster. My number eight two, one, nine, eight eighty
six A two one wtv IN or one eight hundred
and sixty ten wtv IN. And I want to hear
from you guys today because I need to feel like
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I'm not alone. And I feel bad. I feel very bad.
I feel I'm a bit melancholy about my state of
mind right now. Tomorrow, of course, being a primary election
here in the great state of Ohio, and I I'm
having trouble motivating myself to go to the polls because
I mean, really, I I don't there's nothing for me.
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There's nothing for me on the ballot tomorrow. I have
three things to do if I go. I can choose
one of three Democrats for Columbus City Council. I can
choose three of ten Democrats for Columbus City Schools. Or
I can vote no on a bond issue for the
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City of Columbus, which will pass overwhelmingly anyway, because they
always do. Because the people who don't have to worry
about paying anything back with a bond has to be
repaid are the ones who make it pass. So why
go I mean, seriously, and I am all about getting
out and voting and participating in the process. I've said
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for many years, many times over, if you don't participate
in the process, shut up. But I'm having trouble motivating
myself to go to the polls tomorrow, and that makes
me feel very bad. If there was one statewide issue,
for goodness sake, just something something where I thought maybe
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my voice would be heard, where I might make a difference.
But I just I don't feel that way. Have you
looked at your sample ballot, Zach? Do you know what
do you have in front of you.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I'm in the same I'm in the same thing you
are because I don't not a lot, not a lot
going on.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I mean, I vote all the time. I just I can't.
I can't. I I just don't know what the point is.
There's I mean, the two elected seats Democrat is going
to be there, so there's no difference I can make.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well, maybe you could vote for the lesser of I.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Could go write myself in there. You go. Now you
can do that. I guess I'll write you and you
want to be on the school board or city council?
Which one do you want?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
School board?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Okay, you write me in for council. I'll write you
in for school board.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
All right, that's I done and done.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I mean playing games with the electoral process. I just
I can't see myself up. I can't see myself doing
that either. And for for anybody who thinks, well, you know,
you never know, you might vote no on this bond
issue and you might be the one vote. Now, look,
this city, which cannot seem to elect anybody that doesn't
have a D next to their name, is not going
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to turn down a bond issue brought to them by
a bunch of people with ds next to their names.
It's frustrating. It is frustrating. It's uh. It is a
it's a sadness thing. And as usual I have to,
you know, hold the Franklin County GOP and uh and yeah,
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the Ohio GOP uh to task. We just we we've
we've generated nothing, no momentum, no enthusiasm. The little, the
little neighborhood groups, the Dublin Republicans, the New Albany Republicans,
the Gahanna Republicans, they're they're out there trying to beat
the bushes and do things in their townships, and they're
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they're school boards, their suburban school boards and so forth.
But at the higher levels there's just no zest, there's
no there's no enthusiasm, and it has resulted in putting
an election in front of me that I just I
just don't feel like participating in. I can't believe I
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feel that way. I really it's heartbreaking. Also in the news,
the CODA expansion of services, which again I don't get.
Did they just come to us for a levee or
were they just talking about it? I can't remember which
it was.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
No, I think they were just talking about they.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Haven't actually done it yet. Okay, because well, wait a minute,
that's why our sales tax went up, wasn't it. Isn't
that why we jumped to eight percent sales tax?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
We have it passed in April.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, So, so here's what CODA is planning on CODA
the Central Ohio Transit Othoriday. They are going to extend
bus service now on most routes past midnight. The changes
are scheduled to begin on Monday today, with Coda aiming
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to eventually, Listen, offer a twenty four hour bus service
in the coming years. Call me crazy, but I bet
you if I pulled out of this parking lot right now,
the first Coda that I found would have less than
three people on it.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Listen, you mentioned this the other day, and I drove
around the city counting people over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I mean, there's almost half dozens of people.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
There are more people using the two million dollar toilet
than are on your average Coda bus.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
There's more people using the line scooters, I think.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
And not only are you going to be paying now
to run the buses overnight and eventually twenty four hours
a day, paying for the fuel whatever they use for fuel,
paying for the maintenance on the buses, new tires when
they need them. Bus driver, you're going to need Code
of Security people out there twenty four hours a day
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to respond to any accidents and incidents. And the people
who are riding the bus when they get to their destinations,
which may not be the Hilton, they're still going to
have to walk through the city of Columbus in the
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middle of the night to get home or wherever it
is they're going because the bus doesn't drive you to
your door, you know, so you're still going to have
to walk through neighborhoods to get where you're going to go.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I don't know about you, but you know the bus
station right up here on a where is it?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Which the CODA station?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, you mean on McKinley, the big CODA headquarters.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
No, the bus.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Station, the terminal all I'm thinking a Greyhound.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Oh that's the one on Wilson Road, Yeah, yeah, which
is gone now they moved that to some They moved
that back down to the Uh where'd they move that?
The old Greyhound station, friends, which CODA is also taking over,
which I don't know what's going to happen with the
McKinley Avenue bus place, all the money they have put
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in there in the past couple of years and remodeling, rehabbing,
expanding and all that kind of stuff. But I understand
Coda's supposed to be going into the Greyhound station down downtown.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well that's awesome. That's some pretty progressive steps forward.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
We still had this antiquated bus route system where everything
wants to cycle through Broad and High in case no
one's noticed. There's nothing there anymore. There's nothing downtown anymore.
People do not go to the downtown every day. You know,
fifty years ago there was still shopping and and you know,
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people will go down there to conduct business or for entertainment.
But most of that's gone now. So downtown is not
the bustling metropolis that once it was. And we still
route everything through Broad and High as if that is,
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you know, it is the geographic center of the city. Yeah,
but it's not. It's it just doesn't make sense. But
this is going to cost more money, you know, to run,
to staff, to protect, to maintain. And when you see
empty buses floating around all the time, it's a little
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hard to justify that.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Why would we need to protect the buses.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Or the bus drivers, the passengers on the bus while
they're on the bus, I mean, while they're walking four
blocks to the house after they get off the bus
at two am.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I don't see any need for any protection services.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Of course, not because Columbus is It's just it is
such a a somber wyat bedroom community of a city
that we don't You're silly.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
You remember that movie Pleasantville.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yes, I love that movie. Yeah, I do. Too.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's actually really good. But that reminds me of like
walking in Columbus that night.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I'm sure it does. Sixty years ago eight two one
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Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines. It's where we
find Doug. How are you, Doug?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Good, Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Well, thank you for making the call.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Sure, I got to cook an analogy for you. We're
over here to the wet to the east of you,
in Licking County. We have a bus service. They're trying
to get together, and they issued a report, uh just recently,
and they don't come right out and tell you. But
if you do the math, you find out that, uh,
they're funded mostly by grants and they and if you
do the math, you find out that each writer, the
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ride that each writer took fifty four dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Wow, that's cab fair. You could pay for a cab
anywhere in Lincoln County for that.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Oh yeah, well we don't have cabs anymore, you know,
the private stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Sure, Oh, they don't have one cab service there.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Nope, no, God, yeah, fifty four dollars a ride. I
thought that was pretty outrageous.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That is crazy, absolutely crazy. I appreciate you, Doug. Thanks
for calling in. John You're on six ten do w
UTVN Hi? Hey this calling in Chuck.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Okay, so this code of thing, can you tell me
what money CODO generates for this city? Zero we give?
What do we get?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah? Well, I mean I've been asking that question for years.
It's if it was a matter of packed buses all
the time, people needing to get around, you know, if
we were if we were New York where driving and
parking is ridiculously inconvenient and or expensive, or Chicago where
there's traffic jams on the freeway on Saturday afternoon at
two o'clock. Maybe, but we're not. And and empty, empty
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buses during the day do not justify expanding service into
the minule of the night, as far as I'm concerned, No.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
It does not.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And I agree with you one hundred percent. Keep up
the good job. I appreciate you, sir, Thanks very much.
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if we were really using it, it's at least worth
a conversation. I just don't see where it's used to
the point where where expanding service, especially with your eyes
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set on twenty four hours a day, makes any sense.
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Speaker 4 (11:43):
Hey, Chuck, Hey, you gotta vote tomorrow. And I'm having
a hard time getting up. But at least I don't
to go in and vote early. But I don't, at
least I don't live in Columbus. But the Franklin County issue,
the number two, that's know, it's number two because last
time we had number one, so it's called is GQO.
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Now I'm still on the fence about it and being
a homeowner and all that. My property taxes went up
six hundred percent last year.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Wow, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I'm telling you, man, that hurt me back. However, I've
been reading a lot about this issue, and it's a
bond issue, and it's promising with quotation marks around the world,
promising not to raise tax right.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
That's but Debbie, that's that's how they sell bond issues
to people all the time, and they always tell you
this will not increase your taxes. What it does, though,
is increase your water bill, your sewer bill, downtown parking meters,
permit fees for anything. You want to build a fence,
you want to build a deck at that house, you
just had a six hundred percent increase on the fees
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for that. Are good. The bond is nothing more than
a loan. By approving a bond, what you're doing is
giving your government permission to go borrow money with you
as a co signer, and you're saying that whatever city
services I subscribe to, the fees will go up in
order to pay back this loan. That's what the proving
a bond issue is. So you're going to pay the money.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
No, I got you there. That's why I'm having a
real hard time with it. I'm having a hard time
and how I'm going to vote tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
But I still need to go vote.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
And at least I don't have, you know, with the
code of stuff. You know, CODA used to run through
like two or three am in the morning before COVID
hit and all that, and we had to shut down.
And I'm not going to tell you if I agree
with that or not. I'm but Cody used to have
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they want to go back to the old practice of
offering that service late at night for folks that were
second shift, third shift, what have you. And it's not
for me to say who who's going to use the
CODA service or not. But they want to go back
to the days before COVID when they had to actually
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just shut down their service after eleven o'clock at night
because we all had to shut down. We were forced to.
But I didn't. I was working my butt off. But still,
you know that's don't they just want to take CODA
back to where it used to be. And don't get
me started on getting through with how he's trying to
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run the city at Columbus. But I'm just wanted to
bring that aspect of the code of CODA to you.
They used to run those that way.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I'd love to see a lot of things go back
to the way they used to be, Debbie. But you
know it's since that time. You know, we went through
all the stuff with COVID and so forth. Uber and
Lyft are out there. You've got all kinds of things
that will take you right to the door. You won't
have to walk through the snow with the rain or
the bad neighborhood with the gunshots around you in order
to get where you're trying to get after you've taken
a bus. And I'd love to see an audit done.
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I would love to see an audit of Coda Ridership
between the hours of six PM and midnight right now,
because if there's, if there's five thousand people in the
city of Columbus on those buses between six and midnight,
I would be surprised.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yeah, you're right about that, Chuck,