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August 28, 2024 • 53 mins
Joe Tansey, Ryan "BEEF" Coyle", and Mark Henry Jr. preview Week 1's #CollegeFootball action, but first, what happened to FSU in #WeekZero!?
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello everyone, and welcome on into one of the college
football betting preview myself, Joe Tansey, Ryan Beef Coile, Mark
Henry Jr. Here every Tuesday night to give you the
best looks at the college football betting board. Boys, it's
just nice to have college football back in our lives,

(00:35):
and let's just dive right into it. Florida State, What
what happened?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Dju? DJ's what happened?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
That was a.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I thought from that first drive that you know that
Florida State was gonna kind of have their way with
them up front of the line of scrimmage, and I
think they kind of got a stern talking to on
the sideline because from after that Georgia Tech dominated the
line of scrimmage. DJ didn't really show any ability to
kind of push the ball downfield. He did have that nice,
that nice drive to tie the game up. That was
a pretty impressive drive, those two big fourth downs over

(01:08):
the middle, But outside of that, that passing game was
real pedestrian, not really striking fear to many teams, and
I think, you know, future teams are kind of looking
their chops saying we can load the box against his
Florida State team and try to make DJ you beat us.
But that Georgia Tech teams we talked about it. It's
going to be a frisky squad this year. I'm not
necessarily predicting them to be an eight nine win team,
but that looks like a team that definitely will be

(01:29):
bowling and I expect to have, you know, another upset
or two like that over the course of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
So from a betting perspective. Now, so Florida State was
a top ten preseason team. That's obvious is going to
change going into Week two when the new rankings come out.
So how do we approach Florida State?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
They play Monday night against Boston College, so plenty of
time to kind of get motivated again for another conference
game too, which is very weird to start the season
in this climate. So, Mark, how do we approach betting
Florida State? Do we go of? Is it DJU we're
fading until proven otherwise? Is it something else?

Speaker 3 (02:07):
What?

Speaker 1 (02:08):
What do you have to see out of Florida State
to trust them from the betting perspective.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Well, I think the beautiful thing about college football is
that there's how many teams in the Division One?

Speaker 4 (02:20):
What's that number?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Out. I couldn't.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
I couldn't call the exact number. We don't have to
bet every team, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Like, I think we can do a wait and see
approach now with Florida State to see because I think
everyone wants to diagnose exactly what happened.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
With Florida State and Georgia Tech.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
What I would say is that it's probably a little
bit of Florida State's worse than we think and Georgia
Tech's better than we think. It's probably not an absolute
either way, So I think it's probably worth waiting because
there's a world, I mean, they looked bad enough offensively
that you could be convinced that they're a seven win team,
but there's also a world where they get right and
get back on track and get to you know, nine

(02:58):
win team probably, So it's I think it's one of
those things where you watch that Florida State Boston College
game and wait and see that is a standalone.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Right Florida State, Yes College.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
So I know that's a little bit harder than to
wait and see on a standalone game, but that would
be kind of kind of my angle.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
There is there anything from maybe a total perspective over
under is fifty spreads fifteen. They're kind of jumping into
it real quick. But because it's Florida State and they
just lost in their fresh and everybody's mind, do we
even touch them until we see what they can do
on American soil.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
I did see his stats.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
It was something about the possessions. There was only fourteen
possessions in that game. It had been how long since
that This is bad job by me to not have
the exact stat ready, but I know it was. It
was like maybe like a decade since there's been a
game with that few possessions in a game. So it's
just one of those things where Georgia Tech came into
the game with a ball control strategy and it worked

(03:57):
better than any strategy that has ever worked in any
football game. I mean, limiting the possessions to that level
is pretty crazy. So there's probably some unrepeatable stuff there
on both ends, with Florida State will probably get more
possessions on offense to get right, and Georgia Tech will
probably not be able to run for the exact amount

(04:17):
of yards that they needed on third down every time.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
So although b C. Thomas Castillanos, yes, they could put
together a few ten minute drives. If they're somewhat competent
offense worth seeing for sure.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Though. That's the interesting Bill O'Brien being the new coach there,
it's really going to be interesting to see if he
tries to do the classic like I got to have
my mobile quarterback learn how to throw, or if castianos
and let him run all over the yard.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
It'll be interesting kind of a learning experience for all
of us on those Monday night games. At that Monday
night game, let's get right into it. We've got a
nice little Saturday slate, a beautiful Sunday game in my opinion,
which I think we're a house divided on. So let's
get right into the big games for Week one. Clemson
and Georgia is the first one on our screens. Look

(05:06):
at the home game for Georgia. It's in Atlanta. It's
not a neutral site. We all know this by now.
You have Notre Dame at Texas A and M. Very
big test for the Irish top ten team playoff hopeful
and Texas A and M trying to figure out what
they are post Jimba with Mike Elko their new head coach.
I would assume defense first, and then LSU USC. That's

(05:27):
got a lot of intrigue because we just don't know
what those two teams are like. If this was twelve
months ago, I'd say hammer the over and sit back
and watch. But both teams have improved their defense, hired
new defensive coordinators, so we'll see how that goes. But
let's get right into it. Clemson and Georgia, the number
one team in the country, testing themselves right off the
bat against Clemson. I think we know what Georgia is, right, guys.

(05:50):
What is Clemson going to be like in twenty twenty
four and are they a little extra motivated knowing that
the ACC might be theirs for the taking.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I think Beef and I are kind of on the
same page. I'll let Beef lead off here.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, I do think Clemson is their kind of championship
era is going past them a little bit. As the
summer went on, though, the more and more kind of
stuff that I started listening to, though a lot of
people out there are believing in kind of club. Nick
Garrett Riley year two leap, I'm not necessarily on that train.
He just wasn't a very impressive quarterback in my eyes.

(06:26):
Last year. I think the defense is going to be
really good. I think the defense will keep him in
a lot of games, and I still think that's a
nine to ten win team potentially. But at Clemson, I
think kind of like it's kind of like what Villanova
has morphed into, where it's like, you were a national
championship basketball program. That was the expectation final four. Now
it's just like, Oh, if you're Villanova, let's just make

(06:48):
the tournament. Clemson, it's like, oh, as long as we,
you know, just make the playoff, that's fine. No, Like,
the expectation was kind of born and bred there that
this is a national championship program, and I think that
has passed them. So the ACC being weak, Florida State
going into the season as the favorite, they're now all
the way down to plus six hundred as we were
just talking about to win the conference. The door is

(07:08):
open for Clemson to kind of go through and make
some noise. But I also think this is a terrible
kind of Week one game to get off. Get off
on your schedule, because Georgia could go out there and
blow you out of the water by three touchdowns and
there everyone's already writing you off before you know, before
September even begins, do.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
You guys, So there's four teams that did not take
a transfer in the transfer portal. I think Beef knows
the stat Do you know who the four teams are?

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Joe Tansey, Clemson's definitely one of them. If you're teeming
me up.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Here, Clemson's one of them. Who would the other three.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Be I would have no idea. Give me the other
three Army.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Navy, and Air Force, clem Clemson's the only game in
the country that didn't have to that doesn't that didn't
take a transfer, that didn't have to get a Congressman
to get it into to be a transfer. But Clemson's
only returning half their starters and they didn't take any transfers.
I get that they were at a high level. I
just don't think what we've seen over this last couple

(08:04):
of years as a blip in the radar. Like I
think this is a downward trajectory of the Clemson program,
and I don't see it plateauing or getting better. To
be quite honest, I think it's gonna continue going down
as Dabo continues to be more stuck in his ways
about anti transfer portal nil and I think the reason
that I was I didn't talk much about Florida State

(08:26):
and how wrong I was about Florida State. I think
the reason that I've been soft on DJU and haven't
been as critical as everybody else is because I think
Kid Club Nick gets no none of the criticism DJU
got two years ago, and Clemson and people are just
ready for Kid Clubnick to be good all of a sudden,
I think that guy stinks. I really don't get the
kid Club Nick thing. He had twenty eight hundred yards

(08:47):
last year, nineteen touchdowns, nine picks, Like I think he
is like the definition of just a guy, don't.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
I don't see it with him. I just and then
you look at the.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Other side of the football beef can't believe that I
have Georgie going undefeated with that schedule, but I do.
I think they're the best team in the country, and
I think Carson Beck is the best quarterback in the country.
I think Kirby Smart is the best coach in the country. Like,
I'm just I don't have any questions about Georgia, and
I feel like I've got only questions about Clemson, So

(09:17):
I get it. People love clemsing people love the recruiting.
I think it's just being a little bit too loyal
to the five stars.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
So let's talk about Carson Beck for a second, because
some people may say, Oh, he's the quarterback of the
number one team in college football, the team that a
lot of people think could go undefeated this year. So
that's why he's the Heisman Trophy winner or the presumptive
favorite at least. What is it about Carson Beck that

(09:47):
I guess is taking this program to another level? Why
is he not Stetson Bennett or or is he like
what what are we expecting from Carson Beck to to
lead this Georgia program? Because the mock drafts love him.
He's very high up on the Heisman odds. So what
is it about Carson Beck that's gonna make this team

(10:10):
essentially be the number one team in the country all
throughout the season? Based off of what a lot of
people who are saying, he.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Just has everything you want in a pro style quarterback
at this point, the size, and that he takes the
chances down the field that maybe Stetson didn't take all
the time and was really asked to take like Stetson,
I mean and Stetson won was a two championships with Georgia,
So I'm not trying to put down Stetson Bennett, but
I do just think that it was a different offense
and they were throwing intermediate routes to mcconkee into Bowers

(10:39):
so often, whereas last year you saw Beck get guys
like Lovett and Rose Murray Jackson down the field, and
I think that that's gonna be more of what we
see this year with some of the transfers that they
brought in as well, and Etn in the backfield can
catch passes as well now transferring in from those Florida, right,
So I think that it's a lot about what's around

(11:01):
them as well, obviously about because he's got you have
an embarrassment of riches with Georgia, because not only does
Georgia recruit at the same level that Clemson does, if
not probably definitely higher, they also use the transfer portal,
So Kirby Smart is not stuck in his ways and
not using the transfer portal, so he's getting kind of
the best of both worlds there. But I think Carson Beck,
I mean, you look at the stats last year, he

(11:22):
had close to four thousand yards, twenty four touchdowns, only
six interceptions, So it feels like he's able to take
those chances and the yards per attempt and the adot is,
you know, up down the field without really turning the
ball over too much, whereas a guy like club Nick
fumbles not even picks those fumbles all over the place.
Clemson had the third most fumbles in college football last year.
So I think a lot of this game is going

(11:43):
to come down to turnovers. And I think give me
George's defense in that scenario.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
So George, Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I think Beck completed seventy two point six percent of
his passes last year, I believe was the number, so
extremely efficient. And I think also kind of just like
putting it really simple, just looking at the two side
by side, it's like sets, and Bennett didn't really look
like he belonged out there. Carson Beck has you know,
the pro style kind of frame and everything, six foot four,
so I think he gets a little bit more, you know,

(12:11):
benefit of the doubt in that type of scenario as well,
that people can kind of buy into that because Stetson
was really just a glorified game manager. He glorified game
managed his way to two national championships. But then we
saw what he did in the preseason that one game
four interception. So you know, two completely different kind of players.
Beck kind of gives them probably a little bit of
a higher ceiling. But you look at the biggest game

(12:34):
last year, didn't really show up against Alabama, so he
Stetson played well kind of under the pressure. So that's
something I think to take into consideration as well, because
that Georgia team didn't really have many close games, and
then you play a tough team in Alabama down the stretch.
You're not used to playing close games. It's a completely
different thing if you're not being able to kind of

(12:54):
run the ball the entire second half. Pretty much a.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Fun stat that I that I found here, and I
knew it was out there somewhere. Carson Beck gets rid
of the ball incredibly fast, and that's you know, you
have a great offensive line, so sometimes he's able to
hold it. But Beck's average time to throw in twenty
twenty three was two point two to two seconds, was
the fastest of any Power five starter with three hundred
plus dropbacks, and in those in the times he threw

(13:18):
it under two and a half seconds, he was two
hundred and eight for two hundred and fifty nine for
an eighty one percent completion percentage. He had twenty one
hundred yards, seventeen touchdowns and one pick on those throws,
so he's able to diagnose a play right at the
line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
So it sounds like both of you are on Georgia.
Then the thirteen and a half, I think I'm gonna
probably go that way as well. But what about the
total because the last time these two opened the season,
I believe it was ten to three a few years ago,
very very ugly type game, and that was the start
of the kind of downfall of Clemson. The over under
is forty eight and a half. If we think Clemson

(13:55):
is men offensively, but Georgia is going to carry this game.
Is it Georgia's defense that determines the total in this game?

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Then yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense.
And you're talking about the twenty twenty one game with Clemson.
This actually reminds me more of the opening season of
twenty twenty two with Georgia when they had Oregon come
to Atlanta and they just laid the absolute smack down
on them, And I think that's what's gonna happen again.
Maybe not forty nine to three like they did with
Dan Lanning's first year in Oregon, but I would maybe

(14:27):
take a look at the I'm seeing the team total
over here for Georgia's thirty and a half, I would
maybe take a look at that. But even that, there's
a scenario where this is twenty eight to ten game
twenty eight, you know, twenty eight thirteen, So I would
probably stay away from the total. I think anything I
would look to put on the total, I would just
back up and take on Georgia minus thirteen. I think

(14:47):
it's my favorite player of the week. I haven't locked
in any plays yet. I'm leaning towards Georgia being my
best bet.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Real quick on the Georgia defense. So if we think
that the Georgia defense is pretty strong, do we look
at a team total under on Clemson, Because I believe
the number is hovering around seventeen and a half. It
feels like it's a lot for Clemson to do against
George's defense in the at least in the regard that
we're talking about them. In look, I don't want to

(15:17):
say we have like five plays in this game I'm
keeping it simple and going with Georgia. But when it
comes to maybe betting aside on this game, do you
look at maybe a team total under on Clemson just
because we, at least on paper, Georgia's defense spectacular.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, I would probably lean in that direction more so
than the total game under, because I do think Georgia,
you know, could have a scenario where they do put
up some points themselves. And Mark was saying with the turnovers, actually,
for Clemson, I believe it. They turned it over twenty
two times. Thirteen of those were fumbles and then nine
were picked from club Nick. So you have to assume
ball security was a major emphasist offseason at Clemson. But

(15:59):
the first game, it's not the easiest opponent to be
practicing ball security against. These are the biggest, fastest players
you probably will see the entire season. So I don't
trust Kate club Nick in the spot. If I am
gonna make a play on it, it's probably gonna be
that thirteen and a half. But I do think that
the team total under could be in the cards as well,
because my prediction probably more so like a twenty seven

(16:22):
to ten type game, and you're going under there for
sure with that clubson team total.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
So let's go on to a game. I think someone
in this little triumvirate here is a little more passionate about.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, you know what, I just want to real quick,
get this off my chest.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
It's absolute bs that we do these college football pods
with three agnostic fans who don't have a team to
live and die with. I'm the only idiot that has
their their team public and everyone gets to make fun
of me and ridicule me if I'm biased or if
a team loses. Beef is like, oh, I'm in Nebraska fan,

(17:00):
will see how long that sticks. Tanzy is a Penn
State fan when it's when it's convenient, and then he rips, no, no,
I understand.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
But I'm through marriage, but through my wallet, I don't.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Know where I hear that. And then I don't know
if Sean where Sean Brace is coming or going.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
I'm the only you know, Sean Brace doesn't know where
he's coming or going. Sometimes let's be completely honest here,
I mean, welcome to being a college football fan in
the Northeast. That's yeah, either a Notre Dame fan, a
Penn State fan, or you're you're an Eagles fan or
Gar Gambler. Yeah, so Notre Dame in Texas A and M.
I was very adamant weeks ago. I'm taking the under

(17:42):
in this game. I know the totals dropped a little bit.
Here's where I look at it. Mike Elcho is a
defensive minded coach. If the offense doesn't come together in
week one for Texas A and M, the defense damn
better come together. He's also facing a quarterback and Riley Leonard,
who he knows every every little detail of what he
does well from their time at Duke. I think that's

(18:05):
a little bit of an X factor at least when
you look at it's kind of a clean slate with
Riley Leonard leading the Notre Dame offense, Texas A and
M very clearly a clean slate under Mike Elco. So
we don't have a ton to go off of here.
But I do know Mike Elko is a defensive minded guy.
I think he's gonna make this a grind. And I'm

(18:27):
not convinced that Riley Leonard is gonna go out here
and put up twenty five to thirty points on the
road in his first game as Notre Dame starting quarterback. Look,
the transfer thing worked, or they tried to let it
work at Notre Dame last year. But did Sam Hartman
blow anybody away? I'm not gonna sit here and say

(18:49):
he did. He was solid, But I mean, what else
do you getting out of Riley Leonard that you didn't
get out of Sam Hartman? Is what I'm trying to
get out here from und Dame. It's fascinating to me
though their name opening on the road in college station.
There's a lot of variables here. I'm very sternly on this.

(19:10):
It's going to be like a seventeen to ten type game.
It's going to be ugly one in the trenches. But
I think you guys both have two different sides on
this game.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Well, the difference with Sam Hartman and Riley Leonard is
Mike Denbrock. He was the offensive coordinator for LSU last
year when Jayden and Daniels went out and won the
Heisman and got three receivers drafted or two receivers drafted
in the first round. Excuse me, So I think that's
the massive difference. I think if Sam Hartman transferred into
an offensive coordinator that wasn't a tight ends coach the

(19:42):
year before. Gerard Parker was an absolute moron. His play
calling last year was maddening. I was having to watch
Gerard Parker on Saturdays and Brian Johnson on Sundays. It
was an absolute nightmare of a football season for me
from a fan perspective. But I think Mike Denbrock is
going to change everything He's been at Notre Dame before.
The offensive were really good when he was at Notre Dame,

(20:02):
and they took a dip last year obviously because they
were pretty good with Reese in the in between times
when he was the offensive coordinator. He went to Alabama
last year. I actually don't know where Tommy Rees is now.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
He's the tight ends coach and an assistant head coach
for the Browns.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I believe he's somewhere in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, well, I didn't know that, actually, But yeah, I
think that. I'm obviously higher on Notre Dame than most.
What I will say is this is their toughest game
of the year. I think it's the only game this
year that they'll be an underdog in. So I understand
why people are picking Texas A and m I do
think it's very funny that everyone is talking about, like

(20:39):
a Notre Dame's gonna lose a big game again, and
they're they're gonna let everyone down.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
It's like, are we aware of who Texas A and
M is?

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Like they are the perennial preseason let you down team
that Desmond Howard picks to win the national championship and
go to the playoff every year, Like they are Texas
A and M. I don't know, And people think a
new coach is gonna fix that. Mikeelka was not coming
in with like three championships he coached at Duke.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
He was fine.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
I think that a lot of it was because he
had a really good quarterback at Dude.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
They went with a familiar face because he was there
before under Jim before he left the Duke. That I
think that's what they ended up doing. We we want
a familiar face. We just spent oodles and oodles of
oil money on Jimbo Fisher's buy out. Let's bring in
somebody who, at minimum, well will win US seven to
eight games.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Well, they wanted to hire Mark Stoops, and their fan
base mess range.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Oh yeah, their fan base. Their fan base did not
allow them to hire Mark Stoops. So then they landed
on Mike Elco.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Which is wild to me. They like looking back on
it because look, we can judge these things, you know.
I mean, look at Tennessee when they didn't want Giano.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, well they I guess they ended up working out.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
It ended up working. But I mean, you never know, right,
It's kind of like a sliding doors moment of well,
we're gonna hire Mark Stoops, but everybody's so against it.
Who knows. I really don't know. I think he's a
phenomenal college football coach with what he's gotten out of Kentucky.
But I mean the expectations rise when you go to
Texas A.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
And M, right, so, but Elco is just Elko's not
getting any of that.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Like, oh, this is a big step for Elco because
he was at Texas A and M before.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Because he was their coordinator.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
It's different though, like him stepping into the head coach role.
It is a big change, and I think people are
just assuming Connor Wegman's going to take this jump. I
would much rather bet on Riley Leonard to take the
jump getting to an offensive coordinator who helped the guy
win the Heisman last year.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
So I think it's very one of the kids call
it mid. Yeah, it's very mid versus mid in this
this quarterback battle.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
I definitely think that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
I think Riley Leonard is undoubtedly a top fifteen quarterback
in the country Wegman's Top twenty, our top twenty five.
I think I would definitely prefer Riley Leonard. I mean,
Riley Leonard's like a projected NFL draft pick next year year,
like a Day two maybe Day three guy. So me saying, like,

(23:04):
I think mid is crazy. There's one hundred and thirty four.
There's one hundred and thirty four college programs. He was
like the second highest transfer like ranked last year.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Like, I don't.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
I don't think that Riley Leonard is mid by any
by any definition. But I think that he's going to
definitely improve here. But I don't know if it's gonna
be a I scoring game. I think it's probably gonna
be a close game. I would guess like twenty three
to twenty, twenty four to twenty one, so that would
go right under what's that forty eight and a half.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Sixty six?

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Now, yeah, I think that's a good number. But yeah,
I'm not too passionate about a side. I would lean
Notre Dame plus three. I would say that I think
that there's a lot of people making the Charles Jacks
an injury into the why that line is moving. Notre
Dame is so deep on the offensive line with high I've.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Always been a very good offensive line program, regardless of
who's been there at a coach.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah, they're so deep on the offensive line.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
It would have made me much more nervous if a
worst player got hurt, and maybe in the secondary or
in the receiver places that I don't think they're as deep,
but I think you're actually getting a maybe a bit
of a bit of a discount because of that line
movement at that injury doesn't really concern me for this game.
I don't think we're gonna walk out of this game
being like, oh, Notre Dame just couldn't block them. That's

(24:25):
generally not what happens. I think there's a chance you
walk out of the game and saying, man, Notre Dame
still hasn't figured out at the wide receiver position. They're
the writers this offseason are saying they love what they're
seeing from the guys who got transferred in and the
young guys. There's a lot of question marks in the
wide receiver rooms. That's the biggest question mark with Notre Dame.
But I think that they their defense is going to
be one of the three best in the country. It's

(24:47):
probably going to be Ohio State them and a team
that in Georgia obviously, so I think those are probably
the three most talented defenses in the country. That's kind
of what I'm leaning towards with Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
People throw this to you game, is this for Marcus Freeman?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
From Marcus Freeman, I still say there's it's week one,
still a lot of ball to play, and your your
road underdog here, So I mean, I don't think it's
that monumental. I also don't have my finger on the
pulse of Notre Dame football week to week like Mark,
So I'm not sure as if Mark, do you say
that it's it's more important because I think if they

(25:25):
go eleven and one, they still make the playoff. If
this was last year, it probably is a little bit
more important.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I I'll brought on that out for a second. Is
the way we view coaches like a stay Let's say
Marcus Freeman, James Franklin, Lane Kiff, and who have led
their teams into the second tier and the tier below
the playoff. Do we change our opinions on these guys
now that, like you said, it's twelve team playoff, these

(25:54):
guys are fighting to get into and you can lose
one or two games. It's not advisable. You still want
to win every game. They're not gonna go into every
game it's like we're gonna lose it. But does it
change the perception? I think that's a good point. Does
it change the perception of these coaches that I don't
want to say can't win the big One because Marcus

(26:16):
Freeman hasn't been around long enough to say that, But
guys in that ILK that get a lot of slack
for not getting their team to the upper upper echelon.
Does our perception just completely change on what those guys
achieved because of the twelve team playoffs?

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, Beef and I actually talked about this a lot
on my show on Saturday with Sean Bernard, just how
different everything's going to be from the way we cover
the sport from you know, November, there's gonna be twenty
four teams that have important games to play that could,
you know, impact the playoff rates instead of maybe six
or seven in the last couple of years. And yeah,
I think the way coaches are judged is gonna change.

(26:55):
It's gonna be based on who makes the playoffs, and
it's going to be really interesting to see who the
first guy that gets fired for not being able to
win in the playoff is.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Like, it's gonna be really interesting to see.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
In general, so much about this sport that we love
is going to change, and I think most of it's
for the good. But the Marcus Freeman thing, I'll just
say I'm lower on Marcus Freeman as Notre Dame head
coach than I think most people. What I would tell
you is I think we're still a year away from
him being on the hot seat. That's me my brain thinking.

(27:25):
My heart would tell you Notre Dame was to make
the playoffs this year, I'm out.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Like they If you're the thirteenth best team in college
football now, it's got consequences.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Yeah, And if you with the same thing with Penn State,
same thing with the same thing with these level of teams.
If you don't make the playoffs, your season is a failure.
At Notre Dame at this point. So if they don't
make the playoffs this year, that's a third straight year
with more than two losses, probably because I think they'd
get in at ten and two. So it's they need

(27:54):
to win ten or eleven games in the regular season
for the first time in Marcus Freeman's career. And they
were so close last I mean, they lost two games
by one possession, but you know, they had ten guys
on the field in.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
That last play and it's so high state. Like, I
think Marcus Freeman's a really good defensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
I think it's hard to it's hard to ignore some
of the results that he's gotten out of his defense
and even going back to when he was the defensive coordinator.
But there is another level to being a head coach.
The same thing I was talking about with Elco that
you know, he was the DC at Texas A and
m Iget he was the head coach at Duke. But
it's a different thing to be the head coach at
a high level, you know, program with these in these big,

(28:30):
huge games. I don't know if Marcus Freeman is that guy.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
I really don't.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
I think this year is going to answer a lot
of those questions. I wouldn't say this game is necessarily
going to change too much. I mean outside of it
impacting their playoff race, but it's just gonna come down
there if they make the playoff or not.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
So one last thing I heard something today. It was like,
just fast forward to the end of the season, the
eleven spot. It comes down to Penn State or LSU
whoever doesn't get in out of that spot. That next day,
that fan base one side coach gone like playing and simple,
like I think you said it best Mark, Like who's
going to be the first coach fired because he doesn't

(29:08):
make the twelve team playoff? And if those programs aren't
making the playoff, your season is now deemed a failure.
Like if you thought it was a failure before because
you weren't in the top four, you can kind of
brush it off and be like, all right, there's only four.
Now it's twelve. Now it's expanded for these kind of
programs that are not in that elite echelon, but that
second kind of tier it's gonna be it's gonna get messy,
I think too. And I think that kind of adds

(29:30):
some extra spice to the season, which will be fine.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
I think what the to wrap it up is we
got to move on to our bets and the rest
of the slate. The revenue that comes with hosting a
home playoff game, yeah, is also very important to the
university and the boosters. So if you're a Notre Dame
Penn State Ole Miss, like, that's the type of team
we're classifying. If you're bringing in extra two to three

(29:53):
million for a home playoff game, that also would mean
something as well. All Right, so let's move on to
the Sunday night game LSU USC. Two teams that a
lot of change, hopefully for the good. On defense for
both teams, Jayden Daniels Caleb Williams obviously gone. What an

(30:13):
opener that would have been if it was a year earlier,
because both defenses could not play a lick of defense
last year they've been they were guaranteed overs pretty much
all season. New defensive coordinators on both sides. I think
USC brings back just a little bit more wide receiver.
It's gonna be Miller Moss versus Garrett nus Meyer. Neutral
sight game LSU four and a half point favorite. I'm

(30:35):
on USC, and look, I think week one you're still
playing a little bit of a guessing game, right with
how these depth charts shake out and who's actually gonna
be the stars. Zacharia Branch I think is the difference
maker in this game for USC. He was the electric
punt returner kick returner last year. He plays a more
elevated role. I just think in terms of difference makers

(30:57):
on offense, USC probably has an extra one, and that's
kind of where I'm sliding. But this game could go anywhere, guys,
especially with who knows how what the corrections are on defense.
So I'll start there with LSU and USC. You guys
can take it whichever way you want. What should we

(31:17):
expect on defense? I think offense we kind of have
an idea, but defensively is where the issues have to
be fixed.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
I'll just I'll clear out for beef here because I
have nothing on this game. I think USC is the
most unpredictable team in the country. I think this game
is impossible for me to figure out.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Even LSU.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
I think there's a lot of unpredictability in questions there.
USC's obviously a terrible defense, but they hired Anthony or
d Anthony Lynn from UCLA, who fixed UCLA's defense from
terrible to like top ten in one season. So there's
part of me that thinks that.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Will be terrible on defense.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Again, there's part of me thinks he's gonna be the
magic fixed all their problems. I have no idea what
to expect in this game.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
I'll let I'll be the judge of who has.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
The better argument, because I think you guys are head
to head here.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
I'll go favorite bet of the weekend LSU minus four.
Lock that in this afternoon. I think it's a statement game,
primetime National TV. Everyone's going to be, you know, probably
wrapping up their Sunday barbecue and turning on this game. Joe,
you said one difference maker and zach Ryot Branch. I
think LSU's got five difference makers up front on the
offensive line of scrimmage. I think it's the best line

(32:23):
in the country. I think they go out there, they
push USC around at the line of scrimmage and kind
of give them, you know, a little show of what's
to come in the future weeks in the big town.
I think there's a realistic chance this USC team is
one and three by the time September ends, and the
panic button is being hit. I am expecting a lot
of points as well, But I think like a fun

(32:44):
kind of prop bet would be like first drive touchdown
for LSU. I think they just absolutely blow USC off
the line of scrimmage. They go right down the field
and score and kind of show them what's coming for
the rest of the night. So LSU minus four I
think they win this game by double digits going away.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Interesting you put eleven plus on that, like min minus
eleven the alternate spread, Well, that's a that's a.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Good thing to stand alone game Sunday night. We got
we got a good day Saturday. We can roll some
more over into that.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Or if you have a bad day Saturday. Yeah, that's
the even scarier proposition if you have If you have
a bad Saturday and Sunday's rolling around in l s
U minus four and a half is your lock of
the week? Man, that that double digit spread a plus
money might look very enticing to you.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, I could. I also have the USC that's one
of my favorite unders on the air as well, USC
under seven and a half, So I'm all out on
USC this year. I just don't think they have the
horses up front to compete with an SEC team Week one,
let alone, you know, the Big Ten the rest of
the way.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I think it is just a massive Like Mark said,
I think it's a massive question Mark right.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Look, it could go either way. I'm not gonna be.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
I'm not gonna be.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
I think they could go five and seven like, or
they could go ten and two like I really do
think they have.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
I think I think LSU's got that variance too. Maybe. Yeah,
Like the SEC with the way it is, I mean,
there's there's a chance in the SEC and the Big
Ten that these teams in you know, fourth to eighth
place just get completely run off the field sometimes and
it ends up being kind of a crapshoot on figuring

(34:28):
out where they land just in the conference, but also
where they land nationally. I think that's gonna be fascinating
to watch because they are the two best conferences, and
what if we're talking about maybe a fourth team from
either conference getting in One team I do know that
is probably gonna be in the top three at least
four of the Big Ten. And we've got some interesting

(34:48):
line movement with this Penn State West Virginia game. Guys,
it was a double digit spread in favor of Penn
State for quite some time when lines opened. This thing
has been steaming towards West Virginia a lot over the
last week. There are a lot of people who think
West Virginia is a dangerous dog here. I believe the
spread's now eight. Look. I have a very very simple

(35:11):
rule of thumb when it comes to betting on college
football and Penn State, specifically, if James Franklin is coaching
a higher ranked team against the lower ranked team, you
bet Penn State. If Penn State is playing Ohio State,
Michigan or now Oregon, any of the big boys in
the Big Ten, you fade him. It's a classic system

(35:32):
that's gotten me through many many years. He knows the
spread because remember at the end of last year's opener
against West Virginia, he let the backups just run the
ball and score a touchdown to cover the twenty some
point spread. Look, I have a system. You bet Penn
State when they're the favorite, and when they're against a
top ten team, you fade them automatically. I'm not scared

(35:56):
of this line movement.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
I I'm terrified this game.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
I'm not touching this game. I know I'm gonna let
beef talk about his pick because this game is just
I agree with everything Tansy said in terms of this
is a spot, I would normally take Penn State. What
if West Virginia's good, though, that's kind of the big
question here, And I've heard enough people be high on
West Virginia, and I will say Garrett Green's awesome, Garrett

(36:23):
Green is very really, really fun, and.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
They save Neil Brown's job last year.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
That's so that's the question.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I guess with West Virginia above, I think the questions
here are not about Penn State, because I think we
know what Penn State is. But they're gonna be a
really good defense. They're gonna be able to run the ball,
Drew Hollers, gonna be conservative, but we'll probably get the
job done and get like two hundred and twenty yards.
Like as I think we know what Penn State is,
the question is do we buy that kind of one
year bump as part of like Neil Brown fixing it

(36:54):
and getting it right or was it, you know, was
that the peak I know of them fixing it? I guess,
like I'm still not really a huge Neil Brown guy,
I'd say, but Garrett Green, Garrett Green's good enough for
me to be afraid enough to not bet this game.
I think there's gonna be a lot of games I
lay the wood with Penn State this year, and I
lay the huge spreads and I bet them as favors

(37:16):
because I think The're gonna be favored in a lot
of games. But I don't think this is what I'm
backing off.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
To me, It's it's known quantity, right, I know the
known quantity of what Penn State is. They have a
terrific defense. The offense. Who knows with with Codle Nikki
coming in the offensive coordinator from Kansas, will it affect Drewaler,
I think is the biggest question. Yeah, Kate tron Allen
and Nick Singleton are still gonna bruise you to death
in the middle of the field, and they're gonna win

(37:42):
a lot of the a lot of games in the trenches.
But can I think this is probably a longer term
question of Ken Drew Rowler take that next step and
make Penn State a top sixteen and and get that
home playoff game and lock that in and and go
from there. It's just a known quantity with Penn State.
For me, West Virginia, I feel like you can make

(38:03):
the case for a lot of Big twelve teams this
year where you just don't know what's gonna happen. I
think there's a lot of variants in Big twelve, and
we'll say that probably for the first month, until we
find out what these teams actually look like against real competition.
I think maybe in the first half they get up
for it. I think if you're gonna back West Virginia,
maybe you back them in the first half. I just

(38:26):
don't see it. I don't see Penn State laying down
in this game, especially with the new stakes of the
new Big Ten home playoff game. And I'm sure they're
hearing the noise too that West Virginia is getting a
decent amount of buzz. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
I think I was on an afternoon stroll today and
it kind of just hit me, like this is reminding
me more and more of that Florida State Georgia Tech
game last week. I mean, if you look at the
quarterback Dju Drew Aller, it's a bit of an unknown.
What version are we going to get off Drew Aller?
Is he taking that next leap?

Speaker 3 (39:00):
What I got to interrupt you? You were walking thinking
about bets. Would you say that these were walking bets?

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Not quite. But but those videos are giving me a
good laugh these days. But but West Virginia brings back,
including Garrett Green, three seven hundred and fifty plus yard
rushers from last year. So you look at what Georgia
Tech did that complete kind of ball control game, and
I looked at West Virginia ran it for one hundred
and fifty yards on Penn State last year too, So

(39:28):
they showed the ability to kind of move the ball.
Plus eight and a half. I like that. The line
movement's very similar as well. Morgantown's all kind of juiced uff.
I mean, I feel like even in our Big twelve
episode that we did this offseason, we didn't really talk
about West Virginia that much. This is a nine win
team from last year coming back, good offensive line coming back.
It has the makings in my mind of a potential upset,

(39:52):
and it would be very Penn State to kind of
open up this twelve team playoff season with a loss
to an un ranked West Virgini in a game in
the first game. So I'm definitely taking that plus eight
and a half. I took that this afternoon. I think
it might get down maybe even like seven and a
half by kickoff. I also think the under could be
a play, you know, bringing in the new bring in

(40:12):
the new offensive coordinator at Penn State. That could be
in a bit of an adjustment period as well. So
I could see this being like a walk off field
goal of twenty four to twenty one type of game.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I can think that means. The think for me is,
I don't know where West Virginia gets to like the
twenty one to twenty four points. They moved the ball
a decent amount last year against Penn State, but they
weren't able to convert on that. Yeah, they looked, they
looked just dangerous enough to be threatening in the first
half and then the second half. I believe that Penn
State took that game over. I know I want to believe,

(40:47):
and it's gonna be a close game. I just feel
like there's there's too much of a known quantity for
me with what Penn State does their identity, and I'll
counter a little bit there. This isn't the game he loses.
He very rarely loses these types of games. Franklin will
lose to whoever top ten team they play because that's

(41:08):
a guarantee as well. I just I think there's just if.
I'll say this, if Penn State was going in this
with Drew Aller as a first year starter, I think
I'd get on the board with bust Virginia. But I'm
gonna I think that's where the line gets drawn for me.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
I realize Garrett Green at thirteen rushing touchdowns and seven
hundred and seventy two rushing yards like he.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Past, Yes, that's pretty wild.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Yeah, he's definitely inefficient.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
But that's I think that's the big the big toss,
all right, So let's go a little bit rapid fire
here with Week one. Uh, there's a lot to cover
in such a short amount of time, but I'm glad
we got the big games out of the way because
that's really what the casual college football fan is is
working on for in Week one, you can you can
mention it in the in the rapid fire we got,

(42:01):
we can't go an hour and a half. So with
these games, I guess I'll leave it in open four
for you guys, what are you looking at in terms
of betting in Week one? If you want to hit
that in the Miami Florida game, you can, But what
stands out to you on the betting board? A lot

(42:21):
of FCS vers FBST, group of five versus Power five?
How do you navigate week one?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
One of the things that I really looked at was
teams kind of in look ahead spots for next week.
I mean, so two games that I had circled are
Colorado State plus thirty two and a half. They're playing Texas.
Texas plays Michigan next week. Michigan this week plays President State.
I like President State plus twenty one and a half.
I think both those teams try to be vanilla heading
into that big game that's I think one of the

(42:51):
two or three biggest non conference games of the entire season.
So I think that's certainly something to look at in
week one kind of look take a peek at these
team opponents in week two as well, if they might
be like hiding some of their game plan keeping at
vanilla and week one is kind of just such a crapshoot,
especially now how much roster continuity you have or lack thereof,

(43:11):
Like there's so many changing parts. We could be completely
wrong on half of these teams and what they look like,
what their game plan is, so that's kind of the
angle that I'm trying to take here. In week one
and two of the teams I had circled.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
I'm on Hawaii. We talked about this a few weeks ago.
I'm taking them out right. I'm not a believer in UCLA.
I think the loss of D'Anton Wynn, the defensive coordinator,
to USC is a big deal. And you have a
first year head coach Intoshaun Foster taking over going to Hawaii.
It's a tough trip in general. Hawaii is already have

(43:48):
a game under their belt. I'm just not that big
of a believer in UCLA. So I'm gonna stick my
nose out in line here. And it's a national TV
game too. Why doesn't get the many of those CBS primetime.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
Game this is?

Speaker 1 (44:02):
This is not usually watching Hawaii on pay per view
at twelve o'clock at night, chasing the rest of our bets.
I'm gonna take Hawaii plus the fourteen and outright I
like it.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
I like it. I think UCLA is going to be
one of the worst Power four teams, by the way.
Power four, I'm not I'm not used to it yet,
but I think they're truly gonna be one of the
five to ten worst Power four teams in the country.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
So I'm right there with you.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
I like that pick, and I'm gonna go a different way,
you know, I'll stay on the same theme kind of.
I'll fade another one of those worst Power five or
Power four teams in the country. Give me Virginia Tech
minus twelve and a half at Vanderbilt. It's Beef's hoky,
So I'm holding him responsible.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
That line is too obvious.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Yeah, yeah, I get it.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
I get it. I try to, you know me, I
try to avoid that stuff and I try to just
you know, set my how just to let people in
on it. I set my own lines, and then I
look at the line and then and I look at
the gap, and I'm like, that's how I decide my
favorite bets.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
So I have a little bit of a psychotic process.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
I try to avoid the rat poison of line movement
and stuff like that, or thinking about rat lines. But
Virginia Tech, mind stall map. I think it's just I
get that there's some people like pump the brakes in
Virginia Tech. They went six and six last year, and
maybe they finished with a pretty easy schedule. I just
believe in Kyen Drones. I think Drones is going to
the level. I don't think I would put him in

(45:26):
the top fifteen conversation now because he hasn't played enough,
But I think once he plays, I think that guy's
absolutely electric.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
There's a there's a strategy to Fallow. It's called keep
it simple stupid. Yeah, well Virginia Virginia Tech. Oh yeah, yeah,
Vanderbilt not good, never has been good, Like Virginia Tech
has better talent. Like just don't don't overthink it. We
do this so many times in college in college football.

(45:53):
I don't think it. Keep it simple stupid the Hokies.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
How many starters are of Virginia Tech bringing it back?
Is it like eighteen starters?

Speaker 3 (46:01):
I was reading, like, you basically have the New Mexico
State team for Vanderbilt. Like they they brought in their
their head coaches and offensive analysts. They just that's Diego
Pavi as their quarterback. They brought in like seven guys
from that team who were expected to play roles. Like
I don't know about you, but I don't think like
New Mexico State is going to play in then SEC.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
So I not that this is in fact, in fact, opponent.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah, I think Virginia Tech is going to absolutely smoke them.
One thing that makes you nervous is Virginia Tech's not
the same team away from home, but they haven't even
been home yet this year, so they don't even don't
even know what they are. I think they're going to
be just so, so so much better than Vanderbilt. One
more I wanted to throw at you guys, because this
is kind of like an interesting one. South Dakota State
is a dynasty in the D two. Last year, I

(46:47):
think they outscored their playoff opponents by like one hundred
points or something crazy. They won the championship twenty three
to three.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
But they lost more than half.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Of their starters last year. And you have an Oklahoma
State team that's returned earning eighteen starters, could potentially be
a playoff team and has a really good chance to
win the Big Twelve. In my opinion, they have the
best running back in the country. They return a quarterback
who I don't think he's great, but he had thirty
five hundred yards and he's really experienced.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
If paralelis a quarterback, yeah, they do get a job.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
SI like definitely, he's like to get a job All Star.
But Oklahoma State also returns to their top two receivers
and their entire secondary, as well as most of their
defensive line. Like, I don't think they returned so much
at so many key spots. I think they're on a
different level than South Dakota State, and I know that
they didn't Oklhmom State lose a weird one early last year.
I think a lot of people are South Alabama. Yeah,

(47:37):
I think a lot of people are pointing to that.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Well. See, the thing is, we talked about coaches with tendencies.
This is a head coach with a lot of tendencies
to lose this type of game.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
In my guy, I know that.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
That's why I think I said this at the beginning
of the summer that I like South Dakota State. The
more I look at it, I like the Pokes in
this one. But I just I can't. I can't put
the trigger on the bet because this is my gunder.
They're either going to win by thirty or they're gonna
win the game on a field goal in the fourth quarter.

(48:08):
That's just how the law of Gundhy works, which is
kind of an ambiguous low because he doesn't followed many.
But but I think it's a fascinating game. I think.
But the return that the returning production I think is
so huge for Oklahoma State that maybe maybe the Gandy
the Gundy loss will happen.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
But when it does, we'll see start time weird, weird,
weird start time there. It's gonna be like the third
quarter of the Neon Slade. It's like, oh, wait, turn
on Oklahoma State.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
I always that's exactly that's exactly what they want. They
want to bury that game to make sure if they win,
you look at the score at like six o'clock, Oh,
they won. And if they're losing or they're tied, you
have to like struggle to find the game. All right,
let's wrap up here, run short on time thirty seconds
a game we did not hit on a week one
that as your interest, whether it's betting or college football

(49:03):
just in general, people start with you.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
I'm gonna go Friday night betting angle here. I'm going
with Oklahoma. They're hosting Temple Oklahoma minus forty three. Steve
Mackin from Vison tweeted this out yesterday. Huge favorites, which
are he qualifies as a favorite over thirty seven and
a half are automatic in FBS games. Since twenty thirteen,
they are fourteen and oh straight up and against the spread.

(49:28):
I think Oklahoma just blows Temple off the ball every play.
If Oklahoma wanted to, they could probably win that game
like Oregon did last year against Portland State, which I
believe was eighty one to seven. So I don't know
if it'll be that much, but I think it could
be like a fifty six to seven type game. Oklahoma
Friday Night minus forty three, get a little bankroll builder

(49:49):
as you head into Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Mark you're off the radar game for week one.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
I'm also going Friday Night, and I'll look at TCU Stanford.
I like TCU minus nine in this spot in a
road game here to start off the year. New defensive
coordinator for TCU, which I think is going to be big.
Their defense was a disaster last year because their offense
wasn't didn't really fall off a cliff. I know that
their offense wasn't quite as good as it was with
Max Dougan and Quinton Johnston, but Josh Hoover was pretty

(50:17):
darn good down the stretch. I actually like his over
two hundred and seventy three and a half pass yards.
He has his top two receivers back, they got a
transfer tight end who's getting a NFL buzz, and Drake Dabney.
After being named the starting quarterback last year, he was
over this line in five of six starts, through for
three hundred yards in his last five starts, in three
fifty plus and four of his last five starts. So

(50:38):
I think this is the guy who's not getting talked about.
There's a chance TCU gets kind of back on track
and wins eight nine games. They're a team that no
one's talking about despite them being in the championship two
years ago. And I don't know if they should be
talking about them. But Stanford's one of those other teams
that might be one of the worst teams in the
Power for and I think is going to be the
worst team in the ACC this season. So give me
give me TCU minus nine. I think they laid the SmackDown.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
My hand is right in the trap. It's Week one
and I have fallen face first, ass backwards into the
betting trap. I'm betting the Iowah Hawkeyes minus twenty two
and a half against Illinois State. Look, it can't get
any worse than last year, right right?

Speaker 2 (51:18):
I have I liked it, and Farence isn't coaching, so
maybe they say to screw it and throw the ball
around the yard a little.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Maybe maybe that's what ends up working. But there's absolutely
no way that I'm taking not taking a mid to
potentially let's say, second tier, top tier Big Ten team
against Illinois State, no matter how good they are, I
was going to defense them to death and how they
got to be able to score twenty four points against
an FCS team. If not, I'll check back later. But look,

(51:48):
I'm going right back into bad habits with the Hawkeyes.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
What we we just have to mention Miami Florida. I didn't.
I didn't bring it up as my one game. I
like Miami Beef has Miami going undefeated this year, so
I bet Beef is in. And I understand this is
such like a trap spot and everyone's like, oh, hard
to win the swamp and you know, don't count out
Florida Grand bur It's pretty good. I'm sorry I'm counting

(52:15):
them out. This is not the game that Mario Cristi
ball loses. Mario Cristo ball loses.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
At George Tech or at Syracuse.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Or he doesn't lose the big game to start off the.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Year, he'll get the he's a South Beach Mike Gundy.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Yeah, no, that's kind of fair. I I'm not a
crystal Ball guy, but I think he gets the job
done here. I think Miami is just a far, far
better roster outside of quarterback than than Florida. And even
if you wanted to get into cam Ward versus Grandmark
grand Burtz, I'll take cam Ward, but give me crystal
Ball over Napier all day long. Even if I am
worried that I'm banking on Crystaball.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah, that's that worries me. So I'm staying with this. Sure,
Yeah yeah, beef is mister you this year?

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Well, with all those futures I have on them, I
might be able to buy some really stay in South Beach.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
So it's true. So thank you everyone for tuning into
week Our week one people will be back here every
Tuesday night to preview the college football betting board. The
Three Stooges here without sean Brace, which may make it,
which may make it more interesting or less interesting. We'll
find out throughout the year. For Ryan Beef Coyle, Mark
Henry Junior, I am Joe Tansey. Thank you for listening

(53:22):
and best of luck on all of your plays. This
week is to open up the college football season
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