October 30, 2024 • 52 mins
The Big Brains - Joe Tansey, Ryan "BEEF" Coyle", and Mark Henry Jr. discuss the week that was Week 9 in #CollegeFootball and dive into Week 10! They dive into a huge #PennState vs #OhioState match-up that could change the course of the entire season for a bunch of teams!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Gambling, Philly's home for all things sports gambling. Hello everybody,
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and welcome on into a Week ten preview here at
Gambler myself so Tansey, Ryan df coyle and Mark Henry
Junior to get you ready for Penn State Ohio State,
the big game of the week, potentially the biggest game
of the entire college football season. And if the first
five minutes that the three of us were off screen
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talking to each other about college football is any indicator,
I think we're gonna have a lot to talk about tonight.
And it's interesting because there's a lot of talking points
going around college football right now, with the Heisman, the
twelve team playoff, the schedule for the teams involved in
the twelve team playoff hunt, and I think a lot
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of it has to go together. Right There's just so much,
I don't know if uncertainly is the word, but so
much parody out there right now where it feels like
we could be set up for a bunch of chaos.
So I'll start with you. It feels like we know
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who the playoff teams are, right we know the twenty
ish teams that are in the mix for these twelve spots,
but how we're going to get to the twelve is
going to be a little complicated. I feel like because
these schedules, because of these super conferences, now a lot
of these teams don't play each other, and we have
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Penn State, Ohio State, we have Oregon is beaten Ohio State,
we have the Carnage and the SEC. But then Indiana
is going to hang around. Pitt's gonna hang around, Clemson's
gonna hang around. The Big twelve might not settle itself
because not many of those teams in the top four
play each other in November. What do we make of
everything right now around the playoff and the twenty or
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so teams that can still make.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
A push for Yeah, there's I think each week you're
gonna have elimination games, obviously, and that list will diminish
slowly week by week.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
But you have your handful of pretty much.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
If unless everything goes hey wire kind of locks Oregon,
I think it is gonna be safe. You look at
Oregon schedule, it's gonna be shocking if they don't go
undefeated in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
At least.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
You look at Georgia, they're most likely headed back, Texas
headed back. But then like, just all right, just say,
if Penn State loses this week to Ohio State and
they went out, are they definitely in sitting there at
eleven and one? But like, who have they really beat?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Like?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Who?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Who?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Am I so convinced like that they should be in over?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I don't know, just say an eleven and one SMU
if it got to that point, or a ten and
two Tennessee or a ten and two Alabama, Like if
it comes down.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
To the well, if they went out, they would have
beat Indiana, right, Pence, I had a twister Ohio State,
pleas Idiota, not Pen State. You're right, Yeah, I think
if Penn State goes eleven and one, I think there's.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Enough solid teams on there.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
It's like, yeah, you don't have the big win, but
you have enough teams that'll probably finish between like six
to eight wins that get you in. And there's some
tricky like road spots there for them that they've had
to navigate.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
So have they had the big win? No?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
But I think any team in any power conference that's
gonna go eleven and one going forward probably gets in.
I mean eleven and one without a big without a
conference championship result, that is, if a team goes eleven
and one and then they lose in the conference championship
to go eleven and two, that could change conversations. But
if Penn State were to go eleven and one and
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that let's say it's Oregon, Ohio State or Oregon, Indiana,
whatever the Big Ten Championship breaks out, where Penn State
gets left out, then I would say, yeah, they would
still get him.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So I think the field of contenders right now, the
Big Ten, it's four teams. It's Oregon, who's number one
in the country, who's beating Ohio State. You have Penn State,
and you have Indiana. And look, if Ohio State loses
to Penn State and they finished with two losses and
their two losses are to Oregon and Penn State, they're in.
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I think that's pretty clear, pretty clear cut. The ACC.
I think it's Miami and Clemson at this point, real quick.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I actually think it's a great exercise.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I think we should go conference by conference and say,
now I'm doing they're still alive.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
No, I agree.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I wanted to raise a team. If Illinois wins out
ten and two.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Illinois, I don't think they have a shot. I think
it's probably fair.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
But Minnesota, Michigan State at Rutgers at Northwestern, I think
it they might be. I mean, they're a three point
dog at home this week to Minnesota, so I'm not
saying that they're guaranteed to be tenants too. If they're
ten and two again, I think they might have enough
wins against eight nine ish win teams.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Too, but they looked really bad in the two losses.
That's that's I think when you have to kind of differentiate,
is like, yes, ten and two would would be awesome
for Illinois, but when you look at the hierarchy here
in the Big Ten, there's four clear teams well above them.
They need some upsets to happen, and they need to
win out to and probably sneak their way into the
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Big Ten championship game to have any any shot in
Hell I think I think, I think I we exactly.
So I think it's four teams because Indiana Ohio State
becomes an interesting game if Ohio State loses to Penn
State because then what if regardless, right, but what if?
But it becomes more interesting if Indiana ends up beating
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the Buckeyes, right, because then well you have three lass
Ohio State. The losses are work in Penn State and Indiana?
Do you put them in because of their quality? The
losses are are so strong, right, but if you're the committee,
you at least consider that because of who they lost
to and also depends on how they lost as well.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And then who have they beat? Yeah, they have they
played one of the worst DOC conferences. Who they have
Marshall Western Michigan, Like, all right, you can beat up
on these week teams, And what's Michigan's record going to
be going into that last game of the year, like
six and five? Like you beat a six and six
Michigan team if you beat them that too, like I would?
I would.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I don't think I'll say it now.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I don't think a nine and three teams going I
think we kind of threw that conversation into the water,
right the SEC. I just don't think so, because I
think there's gonna be too many teams that are eleven
and one and ten and two then that are going
to get in over.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
A nine and three.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Bam. The only one that's good Georgia.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
So in the SEC we have Georgia is now the
top dog after beating Texas. Texas is in the mix.
Ole Misses is still alive. Texas A and M has
to be considered because they're the only team with an
unbeaten record in conference play. They play Texas Alabama LSU
feels like a very true elimination game in its truest
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form next week, and then I think I'm missing one
of the other teams. I think we've written off, officially
written off Missouri regardless of what they do. Tennessee. Tennessee
is the other one.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
A and M's A and M right now is the
favorite to make the conference championship. They're minus one sixty
to make the SEC player right now because a loss. Yeah,
but what if they lose the I still don't know
all the time breakers, and I don't think anyone knows
them all off the top of their head. But if
they lose that game to Texas and Texas wins out
from here, when did Texas go in over them?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
They would? But I think there's also you know, Georgia
beat Texas. Here's my thing with everything, and when it
comes to late November, I hope we don't get to
a point where we're going through papers and papers of
tie breakers to determine who gets in the conference championship.
I think we can all agree that, like, and this
is to go on a small rate real quick. This
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is why the twelve team playoff the expanded conferences is
a bit of a joke. Because we're seeing things play
out in the field, and we're getting some incredible matchups,
right Oregon, Ohio State was great, Georgia, Texas, Georgia Alabama.
We're seeing some really good games. But because these schedules
are now so thinned out on who you play and
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who you play on a yearly basis, Like take Indiana
for example. Sure they're beaten up on everybody they're playing,
but have they played anybody in the top echelon? No,
So do we really know, Yes, we love coach Siggs,
but do we really know if they're good or if
they can compete at that high high of highest levels. Right,
that's the case you can make where and look, they'll
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get that chance against Ohio State. But I think there's
just so many question marks about this. Maybe the final two,
maybe three at large teams that we're going to end
up with, if they're not from the SEC, it's going
to be very fascinating to see how these teams end
up doing at the higher level because Clemson's been beaten.
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It's not at everybody, right, but who have they been beaten?
I think it's a shame that we've reached. You know,
it's October twenty ninth and we're talking about top fifteen
teams and we're like, well, who have they beaten? I
think there's got to be at least and look, you
can't predict how some of these teams are going to play.
I get that nobody expected Indiana to be this successful.
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Nobody expected SMU. Maybe I did in preseason but then
was really off of them. But SMU to be in
the mix of Pittsburgh to be in mix in the ACC.
So you can't you can't see the future with these schedules,
but you at least hope it gets a little more
competitive and you see some of these more musty games
because Texas A and M. Yes, they they played Missouri
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and B the LSU, but now they're they're smooth sailing,
while other teams in the SEC are playing these gauntlets
week after week. So it's that the schedule and balance
really kind of messes with your head about who is
a playoff contender and who really isn't a playoff contender,
or who is a playoff contender but isn't really a
playoff caliber team and might end up failing the twelve
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team playoff, and then we sit back and descend there's
gonna be one of those teams. I can't pinpoint who
it's going to be right now, but it's probably gonna
be the ten or eleven seed, and we're gonna sit
back and watch the first round game and be like,
why are they here?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well, it's just like why was Virginia in last year?
And what they do?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
They get blown up by twenty to Colorado State. Like
that's the thing. There's you have to go out there.
It's the age OL's saying, but you have to play
who's in front of you once once the season starts. Sure,
it's not like you can add games or subtract games
or impact the way that your schedule is and what
the team's records on it is. Once the football gets
kicked off, that's it from there. So it's trial and error.
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I think we will talk about it, like over the
past few years in the tournament, how like four or
five Mountain West teams have gone and what's their record
between then like we could be sitting here saying the
same thing about like eleven seed BYU at eleven and
one if they make it.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Or something like that.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
So so I just wanted to kind of like summarize
what we were saying. There seven SEC teams still live
here for the playoff. Four Big Ten teams still live
here for the playoff, Notre Dame obviously, and then if
you go to the ACC, Virginia Tech, by the way,
only one loss in the conference, they could sneak their
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way back into a conversation to get into the a
SEC Championship. When you're talking about the ACC and the
Big ten Big twelve, in terms of teams that are
still alive, you're not necessarily talking about.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
The auto qualifier or the AUTOBID.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
You're you're talking about potentially winning the ACC and who
still has a chance to do that. And there's five
teams right now and it's Clemsing, Miami, SMU, Pitt, and
Virginia Tech.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
And then how many teams are there in the Big twelve?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Fourth four.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
B y U.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I have a state case state in Colorado. The four
ranked teams they're all they're all four and one or
five and zero, conference play what.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
About Oklahoma State dumps a fire that's been so.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
That means we have twenty one teams that we're saying
are still alive in eleven spots in the power for
and Notre Dame. And then that's not even getting into
that twelfth spot with the group of five, which is
probably earmarked for Boise right now. Army obviously kind of
snooping around as well. Who else is kind of in
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that conversation right now.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
To in there?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I asked this question.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I think it was after they beat Washington, But what's
Washington State steal?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Because there's seven and one ranked number twenty.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Two twenty They would they would they have to be
the eleventh seed.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Or one of the group of five.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I believe they fit into it large because they're not
there will be a conference championship.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
That's brutal for them.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Man, how do you not throw them at bone if
you're the playoff committee and let them get into that
group of five teams?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
They've been like xed out of college football?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Right college? I think maybe, I think, yeah, there's twenty,
like you said, twenty one teams. I don't consider Vision Tech. Yes,
I know that they can still make their conference title game.
I see personally, I see SMU Pittsburgh this week as
an elimination game. I just don't see either of those
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teams getting further up in the rankings for them to
matter for an at large spot. And I genuinely believe
geting Miami Clemson in the ACC title game. I think
both of those are playoff teams. I think where the
bid steeler comes, if you know you have one, is
the Big Twelve, because that's been the most unpredictable conference.
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B YU is playing incredible, Iowa State's playing well BYU
just jumped Ia State by two spots in the rankings.
K State barely hang on held on against Kansas and
Colorado's putting together a very nice season as well. And
Travis Hunters in the forefront of the Heisman discussion. And
I believe if I have the schedules right, there isn't
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much head to head outside of Iowa State k State
in November. So those four teams, to my point here,
they can kind of keep winning and not really face
too much of a threat.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
The one thing that is looming over Colorado is they've
already lost to Kansas State, so we could it could
be very simple. If BYU keeps winning in Kansas State
keeps winning and a beat Iowa State, they've already got
to win over Colora Aado boom, that's b y U
Kansas State in the Big twelve title game, and you
know it comes down to the Winter winter kind of
take all, depending on how the rest of the chaos
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plays out.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
But uh, if Colorado goes ten and two, you're gonna
tell me the playoff committees leaving, leaving coach Primes out
out there as the eleventh season probably, but man, that
is a ratings disaster.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
If at Tech.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
At Texas Tech, Utah at home, Kansas Oklahoma State at home,
I think they're I mean, this is probably the toughest
week here coming. I guess it's not this week. It's
it'll be next week. But at Texas Tech probably their
toughest matchup.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Go back, though, it's so funny to say that, like,
go back to the preseason, the off season at Kansas
versus Oklahoma State, well's Utah. Yeah, let's talk those up
as wins at texch probably the toughest game in that
Stretchy that's crazy good call, right.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But that goes to my point is look, you don't
know who how good these teams are gonna be going
into the season, but man, a lot of these teams
have caught some breaks with how strong, how strong or
weak their schedules have been.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
It's insane how undertalked about this Colorado thing has been.
They were the biggest story in sports last year when
they won like three games or four games, whatever it was.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
This is actually incredible.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Like I'm not even necessarily I think I'm like objective
on Dion and the Colorado thing.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
I don't really care either way. This should be like the.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Story of the sport behind only Indiana. They're six and two.
This team was like one and eleven when he took over,
they were terrible again last.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Year he's got, you know, one of the best players.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
It feels like the entire Colorado story has just been
wrapped up into the Travis Hunter Heisman package and people
aren't talking about what's going on.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Outside of that. But they have like legitimate wins here,
like it's there.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It's incredibly impressive what they're doing. It's just shocking. I
think people just might be sick of Colorado from last year.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
That's also it also could have to do with like,
have you seen any like crazy like Instagram videos or
crazy quotes Like I feel like they've just been like
to keep it simple, like going out on the field
and letting their play do the talking, like I haven't.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
They've also played a lot of ten to fifteen games too.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, they're they're so late, right, like that one where
it's like one eyes open, do I do I want?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Do I want to continue watching this or not?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Right? You know, even their one Big twelve loss, the
three point loss to kase State.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Who's competing for the you know, the Big Twelve title.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Here, I think kse State needed a late touchdown I
believe to win that.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Yes, yeah, they're losing late.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I think the Colorado thing is I think people don't
want to give Dean credit. I'll be honest, because I
think I think he out as welcome a lot last
year and everybody saw how quickly they peaked, but how
quickly they also fell off the map and were completely irrelevant.
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I think that's got something to do with it. There
is definitely some Colorado fatigue that doesn't take away from
what they're playing and what they're doing right now. Travis
Hunter being one of the top Heisman contenders, But I
do think there is some at least a little bit
of Deon fatigue within the college football sphere. Look, it
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also has to do with them playing a lot of
ten fifteen games. I know Deon gripes about it, and
ESPN does that for ratings because it's very clear that
they're getting numbers for Colorado in the ten to fifteen window.
Why would you not continue to do that? I think
part of that has to do with it too. How
many Colorado games have we seen front and center in
the three thirty window in the last month. Not many.
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They're playing late. Mark Jones is going wild and Travis
Hunter's making plays. Like you said, it's the one ie
open game. Yeah, I didn't stay up to the end
of the Sin Cincinnati Colorado game, let's be honest, and
I assume a lot of people didn't either, So I
think that's got that's something to do with it as well.
If they had beaten Kansas State, maybe maybe there's a
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little extra juice to it. But right now, yeah, it
does seem like and I think it's a good thing
that they're kind of just a little bit off the radar.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, it's it's a game for twenty five year olds
to to put some money on at the bar at
the end of the night. That's really kind of what
it's turned into for me and my friends. And Colorado
has been a profitable team over these last few weeks,
even going I think dating back to that UCF game
where they were like the fourteen and a half point
road dog. Ever since then they've been They've been kind
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of rolling. Nothing's really been in question. So I agree
with Mark, one of the stories of the year for sure,
and definitely give them some credit. And now it kind
of starts to get into the conversation there's nor Bell
get fired.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And does Deon go to Florida State.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I think that's gonna be one of the main talk
talking points probably once a seasons.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
How big is by?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I know Norvell got paid because he was one of
the Bama targets, like he came out, made the statement
everything like I'm staying. I don't know if there's actual
talk there, but it's got to be a pretty high buyout.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
But that has been an embarrassing product this year.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Oh for sure, I think to so to the point
of Florida State. So Florida's job is definitely going open.
We I think we're one hundred percent in agreement on
that now.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I job I thought before the season started he was gone.
I'd say he.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I think they've been playing solid recently, like they can
find a way to six and six, and there's like
a written contract commitment that Djagway is staying. I think
there's a chance because they also have an interim AD
and or sorry, an AD and an interim president. Like
there's a lot of other big picture items at the
school right now that it would be like weird for
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the adeena potentially higher.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I think it would be his fourth football coach.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
By the way, winning six games would mean beating two
of Georgia Texas LSU and ole Miss.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Right, well, they're gonna beat Oh you're right, you're right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
So they would have to win one of Georgia Texas
LSU and ole Miss.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I think he. I think you see what Miami's doing
down south, what Florida State just did last year, and
the fact that you haven't gotten remotely close to that standard.
I mean, it feels like Napier's on his way up
the Florida State thing. So if they don't if they
don't have the season they did last year. I think
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he's even he's a candidate to go, but the buyout
money now, Look, everything can change. Look Jimbo got the
acts with all the his buyout last year. But it
feels like unless there's a big time boosted that really
hates Mike Norvell and isleing the pony up like close
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to one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Jim Bow back to Tallahassee, going back to Florida State.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I don't. I don't see any of that happening. I
think Dion's best shot at a Power five job. And
look at makes it interesting, right because Shrador is going
to the NFL Draft, Travis is gone, right, his his
project at Colorado making them relevant again will be over
in two years.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
I think that's gone no matter what after this year,
even if he just goes Express Media and waits for
a job to come open, like, I don't think he's
gonna stick around to Colorado with no chador in Travis Hunter.
I think he's too smart to do that, honestly. But
another the same situation as Marvel. I don't know if
it's the job that would even call Dion. But Oklahoma
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they did the same thing where they gave Venables this
big extra money deal. They're sitting here at four and four.
They're gonna beat Maine, but then you've got at Missouri,
Bama at home at LSU. Missouri not very good. But
if Oklahoma goes five and seven, losing those last three games,
they in their hands.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I agree, But they also gave Venables a lot of money.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Yeah, it's the.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Same thing as in the season, the exact same kind
of conversation.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
It's like, who could have thunked that?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Well, I guess Venables seems less shocking to me because
when they signed that, I remember Beef and I both
reacted like, what are you doing?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Where is the proof that this has worked so far?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Like I think we all thought when Oklahoma and Texas
coming into the SEC that Oklahoma will be much far
off in Texas.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Absolutely, I think that was my best take of the season.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I forget what game it was going into, but about
four or five weeks ago I said, We're gonna look
back and three to four weeks and be like, how
the hell was Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Number fifteen in the country. They haven't. They haven't came
closed in the game since well.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
I will say they actually and then we're gonna last week.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Yeah, we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I don't know if that tells me more about Oklahoma
or all myths though, and we're going to talk about.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
That isn't bad. They just can't they can't block. When
you can't block, you can't do really anything on offense.
So that was my main gripe about them coming into
the season. I thought they were a world behind it
up front in the trenches, and I think that's kind
of shown throughout the year, and Arnold has really not
shown lived up to the hype. I think you could
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definitely point that to the O C getting fired and
then the offensive line play as well.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Well, they lost their I thought because they lost their
OC to Mississippi State.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Right, well, yeah, let's be laughed.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
But then I'm saying that this OC just got fired
as well. So yeah, they've also been without I think
their top like four or five receivers on multiple Yeah, it.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Gets kind of hard at a point, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
One of their their their injury.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Terrible football they are, they got the thunder Tulsa is
nothing right home about Frank.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Although, yeah, I think I think last week I had
every team that that blew a double digit lead UTSA
was I think that the the biggest one of the group.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And I just looked around and I'm like, really, like,
I Owen McCowan looked great, everything was, everything was fine,
and then yeah, I don't know what happened in that.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Game, and I think, sorry, sorry, you mentioned Tulane earlier
as an American team that can make the playoff. They
already have two losses and a team that actually has
better odds than them, when I was just looking up
as Memphis, and I know Memphis took the Memphis took
the bad loss to Navy, but at least Navy's probably
gonna win nine, ten to eleven games. So I mean
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Memphis wins out. I mean then they had they played
Tulane the last.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Thanksgiving. Yeah too. Lead's undefeated though in conference play, so
that's the yeah, the one up they have on them.
So let's get into Week ten, the biggest game potentially
so far this season between Ohio and Penn State. A
big question mark covering over this game is the health
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of Drew Aller. The Penn State quarterback, went out with
an injury right before halftime against Wisconsin. Boat Pabula ended
up playing the rest of the game and brought Penn
State back. But this game as a whole, guys, it
seems like it feels like we say this a lot
about Penn State, where they're oh They're in the best
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spot possible, this is the best chance they have to
beat in Ohio State or Michigan. Well, I think this
time it really does feel like it's the best team
they have to beat Ohio State. The question is, though,
ken they there's a seven game losing streak to them.
Their last win over Ohio State was the Block six
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in twenty sixteen. They are a four point underdog at
home in a game against a team that is what
won spot below them in the rankings. So can they do.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
It seven and twenty three? James Franklin straight up as
an underdog?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
What I was saying to brace though, if not now
for Penn State and James Franklin, then when I feel
like this has to be like the moment And how
many times have we said this before in the past,
but I feel like this definitely has to be the
moment the game. This is the least intimidating passing attack
that I guess maybe you could say last year with McCord,
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but like I don't think there's that big of an
overall talent advantage from Ohio State in this one then
we've kind of seen in the past. I feel like
this is the most even they've been kind of across
the board.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Plus three and a half.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I love that at home because I could definitely see
this coming down to a field goal at the end.
I'm just having a tough time wrapping my head around
them winning this game outright and picking James Franklin to
do something that he's proven he's not very good at,
and it's winning this game specifically.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So are we basing it off of just James Franklin's
track record or we're basing off the team itself, because
either way it's fair, right, I mean, James Franklin has
told you who he is many many times. Where Penn
State has built up to this point in the season,
they lose, They beat everybody else, they finished ten to two,
and they're in a really terrific bowl game. But that's
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about it. So are we betting If you're betting Ohio State,
are you betting against James Franklin straight up? Or are
you betting against Okay, Well, Penn State really hasn't played anybody.
If you want to make that argument, Jeremiah Smith is
the best individual talent on the field. I think that's
the case. You give Penn State that the Edgit quarterback,
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both defenses are incredibly strong. I think it's gonna be
low scoring game. So what is the I guess, outside
of the James Franklin factor, and he has done this
in big games, what's the reason to bet Ohio State?
I guess in this.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Well, I'm just you know this is I'm such an idiot.
On October twenty first and twenty twenty three, I tweeted out,
this is what I get for believing in Penn State.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Never again.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
That was.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
That was last year when they lost to Ohio State.
Running the back, I'm calling the same play.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
I think, like you said, if not now then then
when it's just you said a lot like this is
the best team Penn State has to do it. I
don't even know if that's true. It might be, it
very well might be. But I think this is maybe
the most vulnerable, really good team that they've had come
into their house at the at what feels like the
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right time where I guess what felt like the right
time until this Drew Aller injury. I'm choosing to kind
of ignore the Aler thing. If he's banged up and playing,
I think that his you know, his effectiveness is going
to go down quite a bit. So so I'm choosing
to just kind of look at that as you know,
there's already gonna be a drop off to either the
backup or to al or not being fully healthy.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
So I'm kind of factoring that in.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
And I just I know, I'm overreacting to last week's game.
I'm overreacting to the Oregon game. I just came into
this year expecting Ohio State to really be special, especially
in the way that they ran the football, and Chip
Kelly has always been such a good play caller in
terms of diagramming you know, runs for his team, and
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to see their running games struggle as much as it
did against Nebraska, who's been thrashed on the ground against
much worse offensive lines, much worse running backs. You had
a safety who's gonna miss time in this game from
a targeting last week. He had an offensive lineman go
down late in the game last week. Your Ohio State,
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I just I think everything we're saying about James Franklin
telling you.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Who he is. I think you could probably.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Say this same thing about Ryan Day these last couple
of years in big games, and you know, CJ. Stroud's
not walking through that door. Some of those quarterbacks and
guys that he had before that aren't walking through that door.
It seems like to me, this is the worst Ohio
State team in a long time, which is crazy to
say considering how much money they went out and spent
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on it. So this bet, to me, actually has less
to do about Penn State and.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
More to do with Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Who do you guys think has more pressure on them
this weekend?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Franklin Franklin, I think.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I want to hear both sides.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So I think if if Franklin loses, it's just like
what the hell will we sign it up for? Right?
Because like everything, that's because the CASA was just made right,
Like Ohio State is a vulnerable, vulnerable team. You get
them going into Happy Valley. You you're playing so well,
like you can be the Big Ten champion, Like this
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is the year. If you said if not now, then
when I think that's the case, Like this is the
time to get it, This is the time to get
the monkey off your back. This is the chance to
condemn for a national title, right because Penn State has
always been in that upper echelon under Franklin, but they
haven't been considered a serious national title contender because they
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can't win these big ones. Now, I guess the point
with Ryan Day is, you built this roster, You spent
millions of dollars on this roster. You have to win
these games, and if you lose this game, you're zero
and two to Oregon and Penn State. But man, there's
just almost a decade worth of history against James Franklin.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
At this moment, James Franklin's not getting fired.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Though there's no scenario James frank He's not here Ryan Day.
If he loses to Ohio State and then to Penn
State and then Indiana, or he loses one of those
games and then goes on to lose, you know, a
first round game in the playoff, I think there's a
pretty good chance he's gone. I think there's a pretty
good chance. Maybe we see coach SIGs up there in
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Columbus if that's the case. But I think that, yeah,
maybe Rabel would be awesome, that would be I know
he's Yeah, he's big, big Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Maybe that's why he didn't take a job this year, but.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
He's already Ohio with Brown.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Yeah. I kind of love that, actually, I kind of
love that. But he's also not exactly like Rabel.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I think is a great coach, but maybe not like
the best x's and o's guy of all time. So
much of Rabel is like the motivation guy and being
a players coach and having your guys want to run
through a wall for you, And I almost feel like
that matters even more in college football. So yeah, I
love that connection actually, but I think the day thing
is just he You're your national championship or bust. Whereas
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if Penn State loses this game, I think they can
still accomplish their goals this year, which is just win
a big game at some point, Like all they have
to it was at some point win a big game,
whether that be a Big Ten championship game, this game today.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Or even the first round in the playoff.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Like I feel like if they have been one of
those games, they feel pretty good about the season.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
So they'll feel pretty good about the season. But because
there's a there's a seven game losing streak to Ohio
State and they and they couldn't. They couldn't beat Michigan
when Harball was there. So I think that's like, yes,
going to the Big Ten Championship game and potentially beating Oregon, Yes,
that that's a big win. But Oregon hasn't been the
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Big Ten for forever. They haven't been the gold standard
inside the Big Ten. The Penn State's been trying to
raise their game to Ohio State is the game, and
I know it's from first hand experience. That's the game
that gets circled. If they make it to the Big
Ten Championship and win, sure that's great and and it
will be celebrated, but Ohio State's the game that's circled
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that that is the game this every year.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I think Ryan Day walks like he gets out of
bed and has pressure on him no matter what I think.
Because as we were saying, national title or bus was
pretty much the expectation for o Highest State coming into
this year. I think when you when we're talking about
twelve noon on Saturday afternoon, that is more pressure on
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James Franklin, Like this could be like kind of the
defining moment because like if not now, then when for him, Like,
how Mark, when you were talking about Marcus Freeman, Like
at the beginning of the year, how could you ever
trust James Franklin to really be able to get the
program back over the top and compete for national title
if they aren't able to do it this weekend, like because.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
They can do it in like a couple of weekends.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
That's That's the only thing I'm saying, Like it feels
like Ryan Day needs to win a title, and if
you lose this game, that really makes that a lot
harder because you're not getting a big championship.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
You're gonna have to do it as a wild card.
Like to me, it's just I.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Know that this is a wild card if he makes
a Big Ten championship.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I mean that's true too, that's true too.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
But I think we I think we're all like separating
Oregon at this point as like the the class of
the Big Ten until somebody.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Runway right in the title twelve and oh season.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I don't think Oregon will be a big by the way,
I love Oregon this week laying the points against Michigan
minus fourteen and a half, I don't think Michigan will
be able to score with them whatsoever. But I think
Oregon will not be a huge favorite against whoever they
play in the Big Ten Championship.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
He'll be like field goal or less.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I think, yeah, I think it's more so the schedule
going forward. You look at it, there's not many This
was kind of viewed as I think coming into the
air like the last tough game, and obviously we've seen
what Michigan's amounted.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
So by the way, the most under talked about guy
in the country. I feel like I've never heard anyone
talk about him Oregon's running back because averaging sixty yards
to carry is eight hundred yards and eight touchdowns. Jordan James,
he's a stunt people are you know he's the number
one the running back on the number one team in
the country. I feel like no one's talking about him.
Everyone just talks Gabriel and Landing guys. An absolute beast.
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Just wanted to shout them out.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Organ's like the school that I feel like you plug
a running back in there, kind of like the forty
nine ers, like you just plug running back in there.
The work and then after they I mean, Bucky Irvans
looked pretty good, but I leave after they leave Oregon there,
you don't really ever hear from.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Them again to Anthony Thomas and Michael James.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Don't disrespect la Garrett garrett career, that Super Bowl champ.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
So if you're making the bet here, and it's Tuesday,
so we don't know Drew Allers stats, but I think
we were talking beforehand. We'll know on Saturday morning at
nine oh seven a college game. They would beat famil
Is on his own little stage in State College. But
if you're if you're looking at this game right now,
what is the play in Penn State Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I took the under earlier in the week forty seven
and a half. It's gone down to forty five. I
think that's how as like twenty one, seventeen, twenty four
to twenty one kind of written all over it. So
I definitely if you made me take a side, sure
I'll take the Penn State plus three and a half.
At home. I can see them finding a way to
botch something up at the end, but they still keep
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it within the field goal. But if you put gun
to my head and said who's gonna win the football game,
I'm still gonna probably take Ohio State and live with
that decision.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
In terms of the James Franklin factor.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Yeah, I think Ohio State wins or I think Penn
State win's a close one, like twenty four to twenty one.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
So I guess that's right under, right under the total
forty five and a half.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
So I had it at forty five, but I could
be decided in a field goal either way. I lean
Penn State winning the game, but I think it'll be
really close one.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
If you're giving me Penn State at home probably the
best team, best shot they've had with or without Alur
against Ohio State, I'm taking it. I'll buy into the
into the and drink the kool aid here. I also,
I think the under is absolutely in play, but man,
I think Penn State money line is absolutely worth the
risk given how well they looked even with Perbula at
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quarterback last week. I mean, after Jeremiah Smith, Tyler Warren
is the number two best offensive player in this game.
I will say, though, if you're betting on Ohio State,
make sure you make Mecha Buca part of your analysis,
because we talked so much about Smith, but Muka came back.
He's one of the most veteran receivers in among the
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Power five teams that are in the mix for a
national title. He's going to be a huge factor normally Saturday,
but moving forward in any big game that Ohio State has.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Penn State's also been like one of the best teams
in the country at stopping the run, which is such
an important thing here against Ohio State. That's kind of
the matchup that I'm kind of keep telling myself is
going to.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Help help them out.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
And we obviously saw the Ohio State, like I mentioned
earlier against Nebraska, Ryan Day mentioned it about fifteen times
in the post game that was immediately after the game,
that they couldn't run the ball and they need to
figure out how to run the ball. But you look
at I mean Wisconsin, they played a team that was
really really wants to run the ball down your throat
twenty two carries for fifty nine yards for their lead
guy Walker, and obviously they suffocated them to thirteen points.
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I think that's the big X factor in the game.
If Ohio State's able to run the ball, it obviously
opens things up for Will Howard doesn't have to do
everything there.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
If they can't Pence, they wins the game.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
I think I'm also not completely sold in Will Howard.
I'll be honest with.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
You, Oh yeah, I think he's like solid.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
I think he's better than the guy who threw fifteen
interceptions on Friday night.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
But Thursday.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
But he's definitely a part of why this Ohio State
team doesn't have the teeth that those CJ. Stroud teams did,
and even you know, any of the premac coord teams.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Really, I think the what Howard was it was they
believe the roster around him was so good that they
could kind of elevate his play. But I don't know
if you guys saw the clip at the end of
his press conference actually from last week, but he said basically,
I grew up a Penn State fan my entire life.
They yeah, they told me right to my face, you're
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you're not good enough to play here. So you know,
this is my chance on Saturday to show him. So
you got that going. And then the other factor with Pabula,
he has a chance to be like his life long
childhood dream to all come true on Saturday afternoon. Grew
up in York, grew up a Penn State fan himself,
went there knowing that he's probably gonna be a backup
maybe you get a chance to start one day, and
he's got a chance to start in maybe the defining
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game of the James Franklin era.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
So two potential.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
PA quarterbacks going after their kind of childhood dream on
Saturday is a cool another angle.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
To this game.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Light.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yeah, this is also a tryout for the transfer portal
for every other team in the country that needs a quarterback.
Obviously Pennsylvania kid, I'm sure he wants to stay at
penn State. Aler's what still a sophomore, so like, okay,
if you have another a valor like that means he's
only Probola would only play one year as a senior.
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If he goes out in beats o Iowa State and
looks good doing it, you're telling me there's not a
bunch of you know, teams out there that are gonna
offer him three five million dollars to come play quarterback there.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I just want to get into some of the other games.
Not many marquee games left, but I know there's some
pretty decent lines out on the board for for Week ten,
SMU Pittsburgh is the other top twenty five matchup. It's
buried at eight o'clock on the ACC network, So we're
doing a great job of promoting the AEC while putting
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what Kentucky and Tennessee and USC Washington in the primetime
windows here. I think it's gonna be a track meet.
I think Pitt is a very live dog in this game.
Eli Holstein's been playing some incredible football quarterback. But I
think this is an up and down track meet. I
could see this game being like a forty to thirty
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five type game. The over hits fairly easily.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Yeah, SMU. I like Pitt here ATMU.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
I think is a little overvalued by the books, and
I know that they've really turned things around. They're definitely
a lot better than they were early in the year
when I was really disappointed by them because I bought
into the hype in the offseason and then kind of
got scared watching the early part.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Of the season.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
I thought Rett Lashley looked really overwhelmed there in some
of those early games, and they've really kind of fixed things.
But they were pretty lucky to win that Louisville game,
Like that game really could have went either way.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
It was close down to the end of the wire.
They win that one by a touchdown, and then last week.
I mean, Duke goes for two.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Duke could have won that game if they get that
two point conversion or if they make the field goal
earlier in the game. Duke was probably the better team
in that game, and they had so many chances there
and they win, they lose by SMU wins by one
and overtime, and they were pretty big favorites in that game,
eleven and a half, twelve and a half point favorite.
It feels again like they're a little bit overvalued, and
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I think part of it is they're building in these
ACC teams, is having to go all the way down
to Dallas. But uh, I think Pitt has shown that
they've gotten better throughout the year too, just like SMU.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
Had, and you know, they were there was a time
where I kind.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
Of thought they were a total fraud and you know,
just kind of ignored them until they get their loss.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
But that those that win against Syracuse is just.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
So impressive to just show up and absolutely you know,
smack a team that had you know, been winning some
football games. So I think Pick can absolutely win the game.
I think it comes down to the wire here.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah, I'm on Pitt two.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
The Uh, the thing I kind of like the best
about this pit team in this spot, it's kind of
the desperation angle. If they lose this, I think Joe
you might have said at the beginning, but it's they're
pretty much eliminated from there. They have a much tougher
schedule going forward than SMU. You look at Pitt's last four,
I think it's their last four games they still have.
Or so if you look at SMU, first, they have
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Boston College, Virginia, and Cal left. If SMU wins this game,
I think we can almost pencil them in as leven
and one Pitt.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
They're rooting for Pitt to be Clemson.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Yeah, Pitt.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
It has Uva, then they host Clemson, but then they
finished at Louisville in Boston College, Like, I could definitely
see Pitt dropping two more games from here on out.
So I think Pitt comes out and kind of balls
to the wall in this one. If they lose this one,
it's pretty much over for them, i'd say in terms
of competing for the ACC. So I think they definitely
can keep it close. And if Duke was able to
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hang in there with SMU last week, I think Pitt's
certainly good enough to do it in the same regard.
I know Holstein was banged up a little bit though
last week, and he hasn't fully practiced to begin the week,
so I think that's something to monitor.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
But it's a good thing about this game.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
If you're not going to take the seven and a half,
now it's the last game of the night, you can
kind of wait up kick off for that one.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
By the way, you mentioned that that Pitt Clemson game,
don't have a Clemson has a little bit of like
a tricky kind of finished the year here. This week's
not that hard. They're a ten and a half point
favorite against Louisville. Then you have to go to Blacksburg
at Virginia Tech to play a team that's playing way better.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
Is it a night game, Yeah, it's TBD as of
right now.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
If that, If that's a night game, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
If it's a noon game, no, then you have to
go to Pitt the next week and then and then
you obviously they play the Citadel, we can skip that.
Then they play South Carolina, who has you know, looked
good in some of these good teams.
Speaker 5 (46:19):
It's a rivalry game.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
It's in Clemson, but two road games against Virginia Tech
and PIT and two home games against Louisville and South Carolina.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Like it could be a lot easier.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
It's I wouldn't be shocked if Clemson drops another game,
but it's still the.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Math earlier on Clemson.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Since the Georgia game, they've as scored their opponents two
ninety one to one twenty seven. But the wins over
that stretch, the records are sorry, the record are the
teams that they played over that stretch only eighteen to
twenty nine. Two best wins are probably four and four
Virginia and four and four NC State. Like this is
I think the first real tests since that Georgia game,
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and it's as a double digit favorite still against Louisville,
I think Louisville's gonna be able to kind of hold
within the number.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Louisville hasn't really gotten blown out.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
They're showing the ability to kind of compete with these teams,
just not beat them. So I like Louisville in that
one to keep it under towns.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Scan over the rest of the skate because we're running
a little long on time here. There's some potentially live underdogs.
I just want to hicks. We've only hit on two
games so far this week. Miami twenty one point favorite.
We just talked about Duke at home against Duke. That's
in the mix as one to keep an eye on.
Ole Miss is a seven point favorite on the road
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at Arkansas. That has a few people's attention. I would
at least think it would Indiana a seven and a
half point favorite against Michigan State. I guarantee there's gonna
be a few people out there thinking their sharps that
that Michigan States to play. Ouded those three guys, which
one do you think has the most pinch? I will
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say upset, But which of those three dogs between Duke,
Arkansas and Michigan State has the most potential to cover?
Speaker 4 (47:58):
I love Duke and Arkansas. There those are I think
they both are live. I mean Duke's live from Miami.
Is this team who Yeah, they obviously showed up and
smacked Florida State before that four point win at home
against Virginia Tech, one point win on the road at Cal,
a touchdown win against Louisville. I don't think Duke is,
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you know, appreciably worse than any of those teams that
kept it close with them and Malik Murphy. I just
think the guy, the guy's have studies under talked about
six and two many DIA is doing a good job there.
I think this is a disrespectful line. And then Arkansas
I mentioned it earlier, but I think ole Miss showed
you what they were last week playing against Oklahoma team.
Everybody's blowing out and they couldn't even get it going
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to do that.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
I like Arkansas as well plus seven. I think that
they could win that game as well. The main thing
I like about that game. Ole Miss runs the same
offense at Tennessee, runs that Art Bryles spread pretty much,
let's make the field as wide as possible, and Arkansas
shot that defense are shut that offense down to fourteen points.
They got the blueprint kind of already in place as
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a home game as well. And I'm not gonna say
ole Miss has been one of the more disappointing teams.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
But for all the talent that they have, especially.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Losing that Kentucky game. Now looking back at that, you
know they all see you one. Sure you could say that,
but ole Miss had I thought that offense would be
a lot more dominant. Arkansas I think kind of has
the blueprint in place to keep this one close and
maybe even win it this week. Lookhat spot two with
Georgia next week for ole Miss women.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
Any other players that have your attention.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
Guys, why is Vanderbilt a touchdown underdog at Auburn.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Because they've been disrespected all year?
Speaker 5 (49:39):
It's disrespect for Diego Pavia.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
I think Vandy wins that game out right. You mentioned Indiana.
I like Indiana. Aiden Childs disappointed me big time against Michigan.
Then one last one, South Carolina. I'm not a big
the books are telling you something or Vegas is telling
you something. Guy, But Texas a and M undefeated in
the SEC, top ten team in the country going to
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South Carolina two and a half point favorite there for
a and M. I think that tells you everything you
need to know. I think that South Carolina defensive line
is for real. I think the Cocks win that one,
out right.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
I got more, I got three. I'll go Indiana minus
seven and a half against Michigan State. I'm gonna brack
back Nebraska minus six and a half at home against
UCLA get the ball eligibility.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
For the first time since twenty sixteen. If you don't
like the six and a half.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
I would definitely encourage you to use that money line
and like a three leg parlor or something. And then
not my favorite bet of the week, but my favorite
that I'm at least advertising this one. Iowa Wisconsin over
forty and a half. Five years ago, you would have
never gotten me to do that. I have been an
over team this year. Funny to say, what i WA
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Wisconsin over forty and a half.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Are we taking? Are we taking? The service Academy under
Air Force Armies forty one and a half. Army has
been a machine as well this year.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
I think Army might be able to get thirty eight
themselves or something. Yeah, minus twenty two and a half
this week.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
I like Navy bounce back minus eleven against Rice. And
we mentioned that this team a little bit earlier on
their epic collapse last week. Memphis UTSA the over is
under is sixty one and a half. That game just
screams over inside in the Alamodome too. Really decent group
of five quarterbacks and Seth Henket and Oan McCown. Memphis
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UTSA over sixty one and a half seems like a
pretty big slam dunk on my end.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
By the way, I know, I know. K State screwed
me last week. They didn't cover.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
Still seven to one of them, still buying all the hype.
Avery Johnson was still great in that game. It was
a case State defense issue. That's a rivalry game. They
escaped it. That's still a pretty easy schedule. Still an
easy schedule the rest of the way. I'm laying it
again at Houston minus twelve and a half. I like
a bounce back spot for the defense. Houston's offense has
been one of the worst in Power Force.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
I think it's a good matchup for Kansas State to
really get going. Well.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
There you go. Plenty of information on the back end
there on top of the big game Penn State and
Ohio State to get you ready for Week ten. For
Mark Henry Junior, Ryan beef Coyle, I am Joe Tancy.
We will be back here next week reacting to the
biggest game of the season yet in a happy value
taking place at noon on Saturday. Best of luck, get
on your bets and we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 5 (52:24):
Spreads total and all the prop bets in between.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
It's the gambler
The Gambling, Philly's home for all things sports gambling. Hello everybody,
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and welcome on into a Week ten preview here at
Gambler myself so Tansey, Ryan df coyle and Mark Henry
Junior to get you ready for Penn State Ohio State,
the big game of the week, potentially the biggest game
of the entire college football season. And if the first
five minutes that the three of us were off screen
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talking to each other about college football is any indicator,
I think we're gonna have a lot to talk about tonight.
And it's interesting because there's a lot of talking points
going around college football right now, with the Heisman, the
twelve team playoff, the schedule for the teams involved in
the twelve team playoff hunt, and I think a lot
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of it has to go together. Right There's just so much,
I don't know if uncertainly is the word, but so
much parody out there right now where it feels like
we could be set up for a bunch of chaos.
So I'll start with you. It feels like we know
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who the playoff teams are, right we know the twenty
ish teams that are in the mix for these twelve spots,
but how we're going to get to the twelve is
going to be a little complicated. I feel like because
these schedules, because of these super conferences, now a lot
of these teams don't play each other, and we have
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Penn State, Ohio State, we have Oregon is beaten Ohio State,
we have the Carnage and the SEC. But then Indiana
is going to hang around. Pitt's gonna hang around, Clemson's
gonna hang around. The Big twelve might not settle itself
because not many of those teams in the top four
play each other in November. What do we make of
everything right now around the playoff and the twenty or
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so teams that can still make.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
A push for Yeah, there's I think each week you're
gonna have elimination games, obviously, and that list will diminish
slowly week by week.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
But you have your handful of pretty much.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
If unless everything goes hey wire kind of locks Oregon,
I think it is gonna be safe. You look at
Oregon schedule, it's gonna be shocking if they don't go
undefeated in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
At least.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
You look at Georgia, they're most likely headed back, Texas
headed back. But then like, just all right, just say,
if Penn State loses this week to Ohio State and
they went out, are they definitely in sitting there at
eleven and one? But like, who have they really beat?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Like?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Who?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Who?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Am I so convinced like that they should be in over?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I don't know, just say an eleven and one SMU
if it got to that point, or a ten and
two Tennessee or a ten and two Alabama, Like if
it comes down.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
To the well, if they went out, they would have
beat Indiana, right, Pence, I had a twister Ohio State,
pleas Idiota, not Pen State. You're right, Yeah, I think
if Penn State goes eleven and one, I think there's.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Enough solid teams on there.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
It's like, yeah, you don't have the big win, but
you have enough teams that'll probably finish between like six
to eight wins that get you in. And there's some
tricky like road spots there for them that they've had
to navigate.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
So have they had the big win? No?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
But I think any team in any power conference that's
gonna go eleven and one going forward probably gets in.
I mean eleven and one without a big without a
conference championship result, that is, if a team goes eleven
and one and then they lose in the conference championship
to go eleven and two, that could change conversations. But
if Penn State were to go eleven and one and
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that let's say it's Oregon, Ohio State or Oregon, Indiana,
whatever the Big Ten Championship breaks out, where Penn State
gets left out, then I would say, yeah, they would
still get him.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So I think the field of contenders right now, the
Big Ten, it's four teams. It's Oregon, who's number one
in the country, who's beating Ohio State. You have Penn State,
and you have Indiana. And look, if Ohio State loses
to Penn State and they finished with two losses and
their two losses are to Oregon and Penn State, they're in.
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I think that's pretty clear, pretty clear cut. The ACC.
I think it's Miami and Clemson at this point, real quick.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I actually think it's a great exercise.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I think we should go conference by conference and say,
now I'm doing they're still alive.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
No, I agree.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I wanted to raise a team. If Illinois wins out
ten and two.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Illinois, I don't think they have a shot. I think
it's probably fair.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
But Minnesota, Michigan State at Rutgers at Northwestern, I think
it they might be. I mean, they're a three point
dog at home this week to Minnesota, so I'm not
saying that they're guaranteed to be tenants too. If they're
ten and two again, I think they might have enough
wins against eight nine ish win teams.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Too, but they looked really bad in the two losses.
That's that's I think when you have to kind of differentiate,
is like, yes, ten and two would would be awesome
for Illinois, but when you look at the hierarchy here
in the Big Ten, there's four clear teams well above them.
They need some upsets to happen, and they need to
win out to and probably sneak their way into the
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Big Ten championship game to have any any shot in
Hell I think I think, I think I we exactly.
So I think it's four teams because Indiana Ohio State
becomes an interesting game if Ohio State loses to Penn
State because then what if regardless, right, but what if?
But it becomes more interesting if Indiana ends up beating
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the Buckeyes, right, because then well you have three lass
Ohio State. The losses are work in Penn State and Indiana?
Do you put them in because of their quality? The
losses are are so strong, right, but if you're the committee,
you at least consider that because of who they lost
to and also depends on how they lost as well.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And then who have they beat? Yeah, they have they
played one of the worst DOC conferences. Who they have
Marshall Western Michigan, Like, all right, you can beat up
on these week teams, And what's Michigan's record going to
be going into that last game of the year, like
six and five? Like you beat a six and six
Michigan team if you beat them that too, like I would?
I would.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I don't think I'll say it now.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I don't think a nine and three teams going I
think we kind of threw that conversation into the water,
right the SEC. I just don't think so, because I
think there's gonna be too many teams that are eleven
and one and ten and two then that are going
to get in over.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
A nine and three.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Bam. The only one that's good Georgia.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
So in the SEC we have Georgia is now the
top dog after beating Texas. Texas is in the mix.
Ole Misses is still alive. Texas A and M has
to be considered because they're the only team with an
unbeaten record in conference play. They play Texas Alabama LSU
feels like a very true elimination game in its truest
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form next week, and then I think I'm missing one
of the other teams. I think we've written off, officially
written off Missouri regardless of what they do. Tennessee. Tennessee
is the other one.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
A and M's A and M right now is the
favorite to make the conference championship. They're minus one sixty
to make the SEC player right now because a loss. Yeah,
but what if they lose the I still don't know
all the time breakers, and I don't think anyone knows
them all off the top of their head. But if
they lose that game to Texas and Texas wins out
from here, when did Texas go in over them?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
They would? But I think there's also you know, Georgia
beat Texas. Here's my thing with everything, and when it
comes to late November, I hope we don't get to
a point where we're going through papers and papers of
tie breakers to determine who gets in the conference championship.
I think we can all agree that, like, and this
is to go on a small rate real quick. This
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is why the twelve team playoff the expanded conferences is
a bit of a joke. Because we're seeing things play
out in the field, and we're getting some incredible matchups,
right Oregon, Ohio State was great, Georgia, Texas, Georgia Alabama.
We're seeing some really good games. But because these schedules
are now so thinned out on who you play and
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who you play on a yearly basis, Like take Indiana
for example. Sure they're beaten up on everybody they're playing,
but have they played anybody in the top echelon? No,
So do we really know, Yes, we love coach Siggs,
but do we really know if they're good or if
they can compete at that high high of highest levels. Right,
that's the case you can make where and look, they'll
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get that chance against Ohio State. But I think there's
just so many question marks about this. Maybe the final two,
maybe three at large teams that we're going to end
up with, if they're not from the SEC, it's going
to be very fascinating to see how these teams end
up doing at the higher level because Clemson's been beaten.
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It's not at everybody, right, but who have they been beaten?
I think it's a shame that we've reached. You know,
it's October twenty ninth and we're talking about top fifteen
teams and we're like, well, who have they beaten? I
think there's got to be at least and look, you
can't predict how some of these teams are going to play.
I get that nobody expected Indiana to be this successful.
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Nobody expected SMU. Maybe I did in preseason but then
was really off of them. But SMU to be in
the mix of Pittsburgh to be in mix in the ACC.
So you can't you can't see the future with these schedules,
but you at least hope it gets a little more
competitive and you see some of these more musty games
because Texas A and M. Yes, they they played Missouri
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and B the LSU, but now they're they're smooth sailing,
while other teams in the SEC are playing these gauntlets
week after week. So it's that the schedule and balance
really kind of messes with your head about who is
a playoff contender and who really isn't a playoff contender,
or who is a playoff contender but isn't really a
playoff caliber team and might end up failing the twelve
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team playoff, and then we sit back and descend there's
gonna be one of those teams. I can't pinpoint who
it's going to be right now, but it's probably gonna
be the ten or eleven seed, and we're gonna sit
back and watch the first round game and be like,
why are they here?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well, it's just like why was Virginia in last year?
And what they do?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
They get blown up by twenty to Colorado State. Like
that's the thing. There's you have to go out there.
It's the age OL's saying, but you have to play
who's in front of you once once the season starts. Sure,
it's not like you can add games or subtract games
or impact the way that your schedule is and what
the team's records on it is. Once the football gets
kicked off, that's it from there. So it's trial and error.
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I think we will talk about it, like over the
past few years in the tournament, how like four or
five Mountain West teams have gone and what's their record
between then like we could be sitting here saying the
same thing about like eleven seed BYU at eleven and
one if they make it.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Or something like that.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
So so I just wanted to kind of like summarize
what we were saying. There seven SEC teams still live
here for the playoff. Four Big Ten teams still live
here for the playoff, Notre Dame obviously, and then if
you go to the ACC, Virginia Tech, by the way,
only one loss in the conference, they could sneak their
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way back into a conversation to get into the a
SEC Championship. When you're talking about the ACC and the
Big ten Big twelve, in terms of teams that are
still alive, you're not necessarily talking about.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
The auto qualifier or the AUTOBID.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
You're you're talking about potentially winning the ACC and who
still has a chance to do that. And there's five
teams right now and it's Clemsing, Miami, SMU, Pitt, and
Virginia Tech.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
And then how many teams are there in the Big twelve?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Fourth four.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
B y U.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I have a state case state in Colorado. The four
ranked teams they're all they're all four and one or
five and zero, conference play what.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
About Oklahoma State dumps a fire that's been so.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
That means we have twenty one teams that we're saying
are still alive in eleven spots in the power for
and Notre Dame. And then that's not even getting into
that twelfth spot with the group of five, which is
probably earmarked for Boise right now. Army obviously kind of
snooping around as well. Who else is kind of in
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that conversation right now.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
To in there?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I asked this question.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I think it was after they beat Washington, But what's
Washington State steal?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Because there's seven and one ranked number twenty.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Two twenty They would they would they have to be
the eleventh seed.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Or one of the group of five.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I believe they fit into it large because they're not
there will be a conference championship.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
That's brutal for them.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Man, how do you not throw them at bone if
you're the playoff committee and let them get into that
group of five teams?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
They've been like xed out of college football?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Right college? I think maybe, I think, yeah, there's twenty,
like you said, twenty one teams. I don't consider Vision Tech. Yes,
I know that they can still make their conference title game.
I see personally, I see SMU Pittsburgh this week as
an elimination game. I just don't see either of those
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teams getting further up in the rankings for them to
matter for an at large spot. And I genuinely believe
geting Miami Clemson in the ACC title game. I think
both of those are playoff teams. I think where the
bid steeler comes, if you know you have one, is
the Big Twelve, because that's been the most unpredictable conference.
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B YU is playing incredible, Iowa State's playing well BYU
just jumped Ia State by two spots in the rankings.
K State barely hang on held on against Kansas and
Colorado's putting together a very nice season as well. And
Travis Hunters in the forefront of the Heisman discussion. And
I believe if I have the schedules right, there isn't
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much head to head outside of Iowa State k State
in November. So those four teams, to my point here,
they can kind of keep winning and not really face
too much of a threat.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
The one thing that is looming over Colorado is they've
already lost to Kansas State, so we could it could
be very simple. If BYU keeps winning in Kansas State
keeps winning and a beat Iowa State, they've already got
to win over Colora Aado boom, that's b y U
Kansas State in the Big twelve title game, and you
know it comes down to the Winter winter kind of
take all, depending on how the rest of the chaos
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plays out.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
But uh, if Colorado goes ten and two, you're gonna
tell me the playoff committees leaving, leaving coach Primes out
out there as the eleventh season probably, but man, that
is a ratings disaster.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
If at Tech.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
At Texas Tech, Utah at home, Kansas Oklahoma State at home,
I think they're I mean, this is probably the toughest
week here coming. I guess it's not this week. It's
it'll be next week. But at Texas Tech probably their
toughest matchup.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Go back, though, it's so funny to say that, like,
go back to the preseason, the off season at Kansas
versus Oklahoma State, well's Utah. Yeah, let's talk those up
as wins at texch probably the toughest game in that
Stretchy that's crazy good call, right.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But that goes to my point is look, you don't
know who how good these teams are gonna be going
into the season, but man, a lot of these teams
have caught some breaks with how strong, how strong or
weak their schedules have been.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
It's insane how undertalked about this Colorado thing has been.
They were the biggest story in sports last year when
they won like three games or four games, whatever it was.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
This is actually incredible.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Like I'm not even necessarily I think I'm like objective
on Dion and the Colorado thing.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
I don't really care either way. This should be like the.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Story of the sport behind only Indiana. They're six and two.
This team was like one and eleven when he took over,
they were terrible again last.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Year he's got, you know, one of the best players.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
It feels like the entire Colorado story has just been
wrapped up into the Travis Hunter Heisman package and people
aren't talking about what's going on.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Outside of that. But they have like legitimate wins here,
like it's there.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It's incredibly impressive what they're doing. It's just shocking. I
think people just might be sick of Colorado from last year.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
That's also it also could have to do with like,
have you seen any like crazy like Instagram videos or
crazy quotes Like I feel like they've just been like
to keep it simple, like going out on the field
and letting their play do the talking, like I haven't.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
They've also played a lot of ten to fifteen games too.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, they're they're so late, right, like that one where
it's like one eyes open, do I do I want?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Do I want to continue watching this or not?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Right? You know, even their one Big twelve loss, the
three point loss to kase State.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Who's competing for the you know, the Big Twelve title.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Here, I think kse State needed a late touchdown I
believe to win that.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Yes, yeah, they're losing late.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I think the Colorado thing is I think people don't
want to give Dean credit. I'll be honest, because I
think I think he out as welcome a lot last
year and everybody saw how quickly they peaked, but how
quickly they also fell off the map and were completely irrelevant.
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I think that's got something to do with it. There
is definitely some Colorado fatigue that doesn't take away from
what they're playing and what they're doing right now. Travis
Hunter being one of the top Heisman contenders, But I
do think there is some at least a little bit
of Deon fatigue within the college football sphere. Look, it
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also has to do with them playing a lot of
ten fifteen games. I know Deon gripes about it, and
ESPN does that for ratings because it's very clear that
they're getting numbers for Colorado in the ten to fifteen window.
Why would you not continue to do that? I think
part of that has to do with it too. How
many Colorado games have we seen front and center in
the three thirty window in the last month. Not many.
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They're playing late. Mark Jones is going wild and Travis
Hunter's making plays. Like you said, it's the one ie
open game. Yeah, I didn't stay up to the end
of the Sin Cincinnati Colorado game, let's be honest, and
I assume a lot of people didn't either, So I
think that's got that's something to do with it as well.
If they had beaten Kansas State, maybe maybe there's a
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little extra juice to it. But right now, yeah, it
does seem like and I think it's a good thing
that they're kind of just a little bit off the radar.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, it's it's a game for twenty five year olds
to to put some money on at the bar at
the end of the night. That's really kind of what
it's turned into for me and my friends. And Colorado
has been a profitable team over these last few weeks,
even going I think dating back to that UCF game
where they were like the fourteen and a half point
road dog. Ever since then they've been They've been kind
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of rolling. Nothing's really been in question. So I agree
with Mark, one of the stories of the year for sure,
and definitely give them some credit. And now it kind
of starts to get into the conversation there's nor Bell
get fired.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And does Deon go to Florida State.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I think that's gonna be one of the main talk
talking points probably once a seasons.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
How big is by?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I know Norvell got paid because he was one of
the Bama targets, like he came out, made the statement
everything like I'm staying. I don't know if there's actual
talk there, but it's got to be a pretty high buyout.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
But that has been an embarrassing product this year.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Oh for sure, I think to so to the point
of Florida State. So Florida's job is definitely going open.
We I think we're one hundred percent in agreement on
that now.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I job I thought before the season started he was gone.
I'd say he.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I think they've been playing solid recently, like they can
find a way to six and six, and there's like
a written contract commitment that Djagway is staying. I think
there's a chance because they also have an interim AD
and or sorry, an AD and an interim president. Like
there's a lot of other big picture items at the
school right now that it would be like weird for
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the adeena potentially higher.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I think it would be his fourth football coach.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
By the way, winning six games would mean beating two
of Georgia Texas LSU and ole Miss.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Right, well, they're gonna beat Oh you're right, you're right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
So they would have to win one of Georgia Texas
LSU and ole Miss.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I think he. I think you see what Miami's doing
down south, what Florida State just did last year, and
the fact that you haven't gotten remotely close to that standard.
I mean, it feels like Napier's on his way up
the Florida State thing. So if they don't if they
don't have the season they did last year. I think
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he's even he's a candidate to go, but the buyout
money now, Look, everything can change. Look Jimbo got the
acts with all the his buyout last year. But it
feels like unless there's a big time boosted that really
hates Mike Norvell and isleing the pony up like close
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to one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Jim Bow back to Tallahassee, going back to Florida State.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I don't. I don't see any of that happening. I
think Dion's best shot at a Power five job. And
look at makes it interesting, right because Shrador is going
to the NFL Draft, Travis is gone, right, his his
project at Colorado making them relevant again will be over
in two years.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
I think that's gone no matter what after this year,
even if he just goes Express Media and waits for
a job to come open, like, I don't think he's
gonna stick around to Colorado with no chador in Travis Hunter.
I think he's too smart to do that, honestly. But
another the same situation as Marvel. I don't know if
it's the job that would even call Dion. But Oklahoma
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they did the same thing where they gave Venables this
big extra money deal. They're sitting here at four and four.
They're gonna beat Maine, but then you've got at Missouri,
Bama at home at LSU. Missouri not very good. But
if Oklahoma goes five and seven, losing those last three games,
they in their hands.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I agree, But they also gave Venables a lot of money.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Yeah, it's the.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Same thing as in the season, the exact same kind
of conversation.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
It's like, who could have thunked that?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Well, I guess Venables seems less shocking to me because
when they signed that, I remember Beef and I both
reacted like, what are you doing?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Where is the proof that this has worked so far?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Like I think we all thought when Oklahoma and Texas
coming into the SEC that Oklahoma will be much far
off in Texas.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Absolutely, I think that was my best take of the season.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I forget what game it was going into, but about
four or five weeks ago I said, We're gonna look
back and three to four weeks and be like, how
the hell was Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Number fifteen in the country. They haven't. They haven't came
closed in the game since well.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
I will say they actually and then we're gonna last week.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Yeah, we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I don't know if that tells me more about Oklahoma
or all myths though, and we're going to talk about.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
That isn't bad. They just can't they can't block. When
you can't block, you can't do really anything on offense.
So that was my main gripe about them coming into
the season. I thought they were a world behind it
up front in the trenches, and I think that's kind
of shown throughout the year, and Arnold has really not
shown lived up to the hype. I think you could
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definitely point that to the O C getting fired and
then the offensive line play as well.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Well, they lost their I thought because they lost their
OC to Mississippi State.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Right, well, yeah, let's be laughed.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
But then I'm saying that this OC just got fired
as well. So yeah, they've also been without I think
their top like four or five receivers on multiple Yeah, it.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Gets kind of hard at a point, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
One of their their their injury.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Terrible football they are, they got the thunder Tulsa is
nothing right home about Frank.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Although, yeah, I think I think last week I had
every team that that blew a double digit lead UTSA
was I think that the the biggest one of the group.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And I just looked around and I'm like, really, like,
I Owen McCowan looked great, everything was, everything was fine,
and then yeah, I don't know what happened in that.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Game, and I think, sorry, sorry, you mentioned Tulane earlier
as an American team that can make the playoff. They
already have two losses and a team that actually has
better odds than them, when I was just looking up
as Memphis, and I know Memphis took the Memphis took
the bad loss to Navy, but at least Navy's probably
gonna win nine, ten to eleven games. So I mean
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Memphis wins out. I mean then they had they played
Tulane the last.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Thanksgiving. Yeah too. Lead's undefeated though in conference play, so
that's the yeah, the one up they have on them.
So let's get into Week ten, the biggest game potentially
so far this season between Ohio and Penn State. A
big question mark covering over this game is the health
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of Drew Aller. The Penn State quarterback, went out with
an injury right before halftime against Wisconsin. Boat Pabula ended
up playing the rest of the game and brought Penn
State back. But this game as a whole, guys, it
seems like it feels like we say this a lot
about Penn State, where they're oh They're in the best
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spot possible, this is the best chance they have to
beat in Ohio State or Michigan. Well, I think this
time it really does feel like it's the best team
they have to beat Ohio State. The question is, though,
ken they there's a seven game losing streak to them.
Their last win over Ohio State was the Block six
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in twenty sixteen. They are a four point underdog at
home in a game against a team that is what
won spot below them in the rankings. So can they do.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
It seven and twenty three? James Franklin straight up as
an underdog?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
What I was saying to brace though, if not now
for Penn State and James Franklin, then when I feel
like this has to be like the moment And how
many times have we said this before in the past,
but I feel like this definitely has to be the
moment the game. This is the least intimidating passing attack
that I guess maybe you could say last year with McCord,
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but like I don't think there's that big of an
overall talent advantage from Ohio State in this one then
we've kind of seen in the past. I feel like
this is the most even they've been kind of across
the board.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Plus three and a half.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I love that at home because I could definitely see
this coming down to a field goal at the end.
I'm just having a tough time wrapping my head around
them winning this game outright and picking James Franklin to
do something that he's proven he's not very good at,
and it's winning this game specifically.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So are we basing it off of just James Franklin's
track record or we're basing off the team itself, because
either way it's fair, right, I mean, James Franklin has
told you who he is many many times. Where Penn
State has built up to this point in the season,
they lose, They beat everybody else, they finished ten to two,
and they're in a really terrific bowl game. But that's
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about it. So are we betting If you're betting Ohio State,
are you betting against James Franklin straight up? Or are
you betting against Okay, Well, Penn State really hasn't played anybody.
If you want to make that argument, Jeremiah Smith is
the best individual talent on the field. I think that's
the case. You give Penn State that the Edgit quarterback,
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both defenses are incredibly strong. I think it's gonna be
low scoring game. So what is the I guess, outside
of the James Franklin factor, and he has done this
in big games, what's the reason to bet Ohio State?
I guess in this.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Well, I'm just you know this is I'm such an idiot.
On October twenty first and twenty twenty three, I tweeted out,
this is what I get for believing in Penn State.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Never again.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
That was.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
That was last year when they lost to Ohio State.
Running the back, I'm calling the same play.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
I think, like you said, if not now then then
when it's just you said a lot like this is
the best team Penn State has to do it. I
don't even know if that's true. It might be, it
very well might be. But I think this is maybe
the most vulnerable, really good team that they've had come
into their house at the at what feels like the
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right time where I guess what felt like the right
time until this Drew Aller injury. I'm choosing to kind
of ignore the Aler thing. If he's banged up and playing,
I think that his you know, his effectiveness is going
to go down quite a bit. So so I'm choosing
to just kind of look at that as you know,
there's already gonna be a drop off to either the
backup or to al or not being fully healthy.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
So I'm kind of factoring that in.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
And I just I know, I'm overreacting to last week's game.
I'm overreacting to the Oregon game. I just came into
this year expecting Ohio State to really be special, especially
in the way that they ran the football, and Chip
Kelly has always been such a good play caller in
terms of diagramming you know, runs for his team, and
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to see their running games struggle as much as it
did against Nebraska, who's been thrashed on the ground against
much worse offensive lines, much worse running backs. You had
a safety who's gonna miss time in this game from
a targeting last week. He had an offensive lineman go
down late in the game last week. Your Ohio State,
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I just I think everything we're saying about James Franklin
telling you.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Who he is. I think you could probably.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Say this same thing about Ryan Day these last couple
of years in big games, and you know, CJ. Stroud's
not walking through that door. Some of those quarterbacks and
guys that he had before that aren't walking through that door.
It seems like to me, this is the worst Ohio
State team in a long time, which is crazy to
say considering how much money they went out and spent
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on it. So this bet, to me, actually has less
to do about Penn State and.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
More to do with Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Who do you guys think has more pressure on them
this weekend?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Franklin Franklin, I think.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I want to hear both sides.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So I think if if Franklin loses, it's just like
what the hell will we sign it up for? Right?
Because like everything, that's because the CASA was just made right,
Like Ohio State is a vulnerable, vulnerable team. You get
them going into Happy Valley. You you're playing so well,
like you can be the Big Ten champion, Like this
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is the year. If you said if not now, then
when I think that's the case, Like this is the
time to get it, This is the time to get
the monkey off your back. This is the chance to
condemn for a national title, right because Penn State has
always been in that upper echelon under Franklin, but they
haven't been considered a serious national title contender because they
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can't win these big ones. Now, I guess the point
with Ryan Day is, you built this roster, You spent
millions of dollars on this roster. You have to win
these games, and if you lose this game, you're zero
and two to Oregon and Penn State. But man, there's
just almost a decade worth of history against James Franklin.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
At this moment, James Franklin's not getting fired.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Though there's no scenario James frank He's not here Ryan Day.
If he loses to Ohio State and then to Penn
State and then Indiana, or he loses one of those
games and then goes on to lose, you know, a
first round game in the playoff, I think there's a
pretty good chance he's gone. I think there's a pretty
good chance. Maybe we see coach SIGs up there in
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Columbus if that's the case. But I think that, yeah,
maybe Rabel would be awesome, that would be I know
he's Yeah, he's big, big Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Maybe that's why he didn't take a job this year, but.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
He's already Ohio with Brown.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Yeah. I kind of love that, actually, I kind of
love that. But he's also not exactly like Rabel.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I think is a great coach, but maybe not like
the best x's and o's guy of all time. So
much of Rabel is like the motivation guy and being
a players coach and having your guys want to run
through a wall for you, And I almost feel like
that matters even more in college football. So yeah, I
love that connection actually, but I think the day thing
is just he You're your national championship or bust. Whereas
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if Penn State loses this game, I think they can
still accomplish their goals this year, which is just win
a big game at some point, Like all they have
to it was at some point win a big game,
whether that be a Big Ten championship game, this game today.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Or even the first round in the playoff.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Like I feel like if they have been one of
those games, they feel pretty good about the season.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
So they'll feel pretty good about the season. But because
there's a there's a seven game losing streak to Ohio
State and they and they couldn't. They couldn't beat Michigan
when Harball was there. So I think that's like, yes,
going to the Big Ten Championship game and potentially beating Oregon, Yes,
that that's a big win. But Oregon hasn't been the
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Big Ten for forever. They haven't been the gold standard
inside the Big Ten. The Penn State's been trying to
raise their game to Ohio State is the game, and
I know it's from first hand experience. That's the game
that gets circled. If they make it to the Big
Ten Championship and win, sure that's great and and it
will be celebrated, but Ohio State's the game that's circled
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that that is the game this every year.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I think Ryan Day walks like he gets out of
bed and has pressure on him no matter what I think.
Because as we were saying, national title or bus was
pretty much the expectation for o Highest State coming into
this year. I think when you when we're talking about
twelve noon on Saturday afternoon, that is more pressure on
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James Franklin, Like this could be like kind of the
defining moment because like if not now, then when for him, Like,
how Mark, when you were talking about Marcus Freeman, Like
at the beginning of the year, how could you ever
trust James Franklin to really be able to get the
program back over the top and compete for national title
if they aren't able to do it this weekend, like because.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
They can do it in like a couple of weekends.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
That's That's the only thing I'm saying, Like it feels
like Ryan Day needs to win a title, and if
you lose this game, that really makes that a lot
harder because you're not getting a big championship.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
You're gonna have to do it as a wild card.
Like to me, it's just I.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Know that this is a wild card if he makes
a Big Ten championship.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I mean that's true too, that's true too.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
But I think we I think we're all like separating
Oregon at this point as like the the class of
the Big Ten until somebody.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Runway right in the title twelve and oh season.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I don't think Oregon will be a big by the way,
I love Oregon this week laying the points against Michigan
minus fourteen and a half, I don't think Michigan will
be able to score with them whatsoever. But I think
Oregon will not be a huge favorite against whoever they
play in the Big Ten Championship.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
He'll be like field goal or less.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I think, yeah, I think it's more so the schedule
going forward. You look at it, there's not many This
was kind of viewed as I think coming into the
air like the last tough game, and obviously we've seen
what Michigan's amounted.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
So by the way, the most under talked about guy
in the country. I feel like I've never heard anyone
talk about him Oregon's running back because averaging sixty yards
to carry is eight hundred yards and eight touchdowns. Jordan James,
he's a stunt people are you know he's the number
one the running back on the number one team in
the country. I feel like no one's talking about him.
Everyone just talks Gabriel and Landing guys. An absolute beast.
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Just wanted to shout them out.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Organ's like the school that I feel like you plug
a running back in there, kind of like the forty
nine ers, like you just plug running back in there.
The work and then after they I mean, Bucky Irvans
looked pretty good, but I leave after they leave Oregon there,
you don't really ever hear from.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Them again to Anthony Thomas and Michael James.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Don't disrespect la Garrett garrett career, that Super Bowl champ.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
So if you're making the bet here, and it's Tuesday,
so we don't know Drew Allers stats, but I think
we were talking beforehand. We'll know on Saturday morning at
nine oh seven a college game. They would beat famil
Is on his own little stage in State College. But
if you're if you're looking at this game right now,
what is the play in Penn State Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I took the under earlier in the week forty seven
and a half. It's gone down to forty five. I
think that's how as like twenty one, seventeen, twenty four
to twenty one kind of written all over it. So
I definitely if you made me take a side, sure
I'll take the Penn State plus three and a half.
At home. I can see them finding a way to
botch something up at the end, but they still keep
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it within the field goal. But if you put gun
to my head and said who's gonna win the football game,
I'm still gonna probably take Ohio State and live with
that decision.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
In terms of the James Franklin factor.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Yeah, I think Ohio State wins or I think Penn
State win's a close one, like twenty four to twenty one.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
So I guess that's right under, right under the total
forty five and a half.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
So I had it at forty five, but I could
be decided in a field goal either way. I lean
Penn State winning the game, but I think it'll be
really close one.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
If you're giving me Penn State at home probably the
best team, best shot they've had with or without Alur
against Ohio State, I'm taking it. I'll buy into the
into the and drink the kool aid here. I also,
I think the under is absolutely in play, but man,
I think Penn State money line is absolutely worth the
risk given how well they looked even with Perbula at
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quarterback last week. I mean, after Jeremiah Smith, Tyler Warren
is the number two best offensive player in this game.
I will say, though, if you're betting on Ohio State,
make sure you make Mecha Buca part of your analysis,
because we talked so much about Smith, but Muka came back.
He's one of the most veteran receivers in among the
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Power five teams that are in the mix for a
national title. He's going to be a huge factor normally Saturday,
but moving forward in any big game that Ohio State has.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Penn State's also been like one of the best teams
in the country at stopping the run, which is such
an important thing here against Ohio State. That's kind of
the matchup that I'm kind of keep telling myself is
going to.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Help help them out.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
And we obviously saw the Ohio State, like I mentioned
earlier against Nebraska, Ryan Day mentioned it about fifteen times
in the post game that was immediately after the game,
that they couldn't run the ball and they need to
figure out how to run the ball. But you look
at I mean Wisconsin, they played a team that was
really really wants to run the ball down your throat
twenty two carries for fifty nine yards for their lead
guy Walker, and obviously they suffocated them to thirteen points.
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I think that's the big X factor in the game.
If Ohio State's able to run the ball, it obviously
opens things up for Will Howard doesn't have to do
everything there.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
If they can't Pence, they wins the game.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
I think I'm also not completely sold in Will Howard.
I'll be honest with.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
You, Oh yeah, I think he's like solid.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
I think he's better than the guy who threw fifteen
interceptions on Friday night.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
But Thursday.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
But he's definitely a part of why this Ohio State
team doesn't have the teeth that those CJ. Stroud teams did,
and even you know, any of the premac coord teams.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Really, I think the what Howard was it was they
believe the roster around him was so good that they
could kind of elevate his play. But I don't know
if you guys saw the clip at the end of
his press conference actually from last week, but he said basically,
I grew up a Penn State fan my entire life.
They yeah, they told me right to my face, you're
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you're not good enough to play here. So you know,
this is my chance on Saturday to show him. So
you got that going. And then the other factor with Pabula,
he has a chance to be like his life long
childhood dream to all come true on Saturday afternoon. Grew
up in York, grew up a Penn State fan himself,
went there knowing that he's probably gonna be a backup
maybe you get a chance to start one day, and
he's got a chance to start in maybe the defining
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game of the James Franklin era.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
So two potential.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
PA quarterbacks going after their kind of childhood dream on
Saturday is a cool another angle.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
To this game.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Light.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yeah, this is also a tryout for the transfer portal
for every other team in the country that needs a quarterback.
Obviously Pennsylvania kid, I'm sure he wants to stay at
penn State. Aler's what still a sophomore, so like, okay,
if you have another a valor like that means he's
only Probola would only play one year as a senior.
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If he goes out in beats o Iowa State and
looks good doing it, you're telling me there's not a
bunch of you know, teams out there that are gonna
offer him three five million dollars to come play quarterback there.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I just want to get into some of the other games.
Not many marquee games left, but I know there's some
pretty decent lines out on the board for for Week ten,
SMU Pittsburgh is the other top twenty five matchup. It's
buried at eight o'clock on the ACC network, So we're
doing a great job of promoting the AEC while putting
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what Kentucky and Tennessee and USC Washington in the primetime
windows here. I think it's gonna be a track meet.
I think Pitt is a very live dog in this game.
Eli Holstein's been playing some incredible football quarterback. But I
think this is an up and down track meet. I
could see this game being like a forty to thirty
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five type game. The over hits fairly easily.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Yeah, SMU. I like Pitt here ATMU.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
I think is a little overvalued by the books, and
I know that they've really turned things around. They're definitely
a lot better than they were early in the year
when I was really disappointed by them because I bought
into the hype in the offseason and then kind of
got scared watching the early part.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Of the season.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
I thought Rett Lashley looked really overwhelmed there in some
of those early games, and they've really kind of fixed things.
But they were pretty lucky to win that Louisville game,
Like that game really could have went either way.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
It was close down to the end of the wire.
They win that one by a touchdown, and then last week.
I mean, Duke goes for two.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Duke could have won that game if they get that
two point conversion or if they make the field goal
earlier in the game. Duke was probably the better team
in that game, and they had so many chances there
and they win, they lose by SMU wins by one
and overtime, and they were pretty big favorites in that game,
eleven and a half, twelve and a half point favorite.
It feels again like they're a little bit overvalued, and
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I think part of it is they're building in these
ACC teams, is having to go all the way down
to Dallas. But uh, I think Pitt has shown that
they've gotten better throughout the year too, just like SMU.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
Had, and you know, they were there was a time
where I kind.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
Of thought they were a total fraud and you know,
just kind of ignored them until they get their loss.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
But that those that win against Syracuse is just.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
So impressive to just show up and absolutely you know,
smack a team that had you know, been winning some
football games. So I think Pick can absolutely win the game.
I think it comes down to the wire here.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah, I'm on Pitt two.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
The Uh, the thing I kind of like the best
about this pit team in this spot, it's kind of
the desperation angle. If they lose this, I think Joe
you might have said at the beginning, but it's they're
pretty much eliminated from there. They have a much tougher
schedule going forward than SMU. You look at Pitt's last four,
I think it's their last four games they still have.
Or so if you look at SMU, first, they have
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Boston College, Virginia, and Cal left. If SMU wins this game,
I think we can almost pencil them in as leven
and one Pitt.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
They're rooting for Pitt to be Clemson.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Yeah, Pitt.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
It has Uva, then they host Clemson, but then they
finished at Louisville in Boston College, Like, I could definitely
see Pitt dropping two more games from here on out.
So I think Pitt comes out and kind of balls
to the wall in this one. If they lose this one,
it's pretty much over for them, i'd say in terms
of competing for the ACC. So I think they definitely
can keep it close. And if Duke was able to
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hang in there with SMU last week, I think Pitt's
certainly good enough to do it in the same regard.
I know Holstein was banged up a little bit though
last week, and he hasn't fully practiced to begin the week,
so I think that's something to monitor.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
But it's a good thing about this game.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
If you're not going to take the seven and a half,
now it's the last game of the night, you can
kind of wait up kick off for that one.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
By the way, you mentioned that that Pitt Clemson game,
don't have a Clemson has a little bit of like
a tricky kind of finished the year here. This week's
not that hard. They're a ten and a half point
favorite against Louisville. Then you have to go to Blacksburg
at Virginia Tech to play a team that's playing way better.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
Is it a night game, Yeah, it's TBD as of
right now.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
If that, If that's a night game, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
If it's a noon game, no, then you have to
go to Pitt the next week and then and then
you obviously they play the Citadel, we can skip that.
Then they play South Carolina, who has you know, looked
good in some of these good teams.
Speaker 5 (46:19):
It's a rivalry game.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
It's in Clemson, but two road games against Virginia Tech
and PIT and two home games against Louisville and South Carolina.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Like it could be a lot easier.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
It's I wouldn't be shocked if Clemson drops another game,
but it's still the.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Math earlier on Clemson.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Since the Georgia game, they've as scored their opponents two
ninety one to one twenty seven. But the wins over
that stretch, the records are sorry, the record are the
teams that they played over that stretch only eighteen to
twenty nine. Two best wins are probably four and four
Virginia and four and four NC State. Like this is
I think the first real tests since that Georgia game,
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and it's as a double digit favorite still against Louisville,
I think Louisville's gonna be able to kind of hold
within the number.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Louisville hasn't really gotten blown out.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
They're showing the ability to kind of compete with these teams,
just not beat them. So I like Louisville in that
one to keep it under towns.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Scan over the rest of the skate because we're running
a little long on time here. There's some potentially live underdogs.
I just want to hicks. We've only hit on two
games so far this week. Miami twenty one point favorite.
We just talked about Duke at home against Duke. That's
in the mix as one to keep an eye on.
Ole Miss is a seven point favorite on the road
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at Arkansas. That has a few people's attention. I would
at least think it would Indiana a seven and a
half point favorite against Michigan State. I guarantee there's gonna
be a few people out there thinking their sharps that
that Michigan States to play. Ouded those three guys, which
one do you think has the most pinch? I will
(47:51):
say upset, But which of those three dogs between Duke,
Arkansas and Michigan State has the most potential to cover?
Speaker 4 (47:58):
I love Duke and Arkansas. There those are I think
they both are live. I mean Duke's live from Miami.
Is this team who Yeah, they obviously showed up and
smacked Florida State before that four point win at home
against Virginia Tech, one point win on the road at Cal,
a touchdown win against Louisville. I don't think Duke is,
(48:19):
you know, appreciably worse than any of those teams that
kept it close with them and Malik Murphy. I just
think the guy, the guy's have studies under talked about
six and two many DIA is doing a good job there.
I think this is a disrespectful line. And then Arkansas
I mentioned it earlier, but I think ole Miss showed
you what they were last week playing against Oklahoma team.
Everybody's blowing out and they couldn't even get it going
(48:40):
to do that.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
I like Arkansas as well plus seven. I think that
they could win that game as well. The main thing
I like about that game. Ole Miss runs the same
offense at Tennessee, runs that Art Bryles spread pretty much,
let's make the field as wide as possible, and Arkansas
shot that defense are shut that offense down to fourteen points.
They got the blueprint kind of already in place as
(49:04):
a home game as well. And I'm not gonna say
ole Miss has been one of the more disappointing teams.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
But for all the talent that they have, especially.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Losing that Kentucky game. Now looking back at that, you
know they all see you one. Sure you could say that,
but ole Miss had I thought that offense would be
a lot more dominant. Arkansas I think kind of has
the blueprint in place to keep this one close and
maybe even win it this week. Lookhat spot two with
Georgia next week for ole Miss women.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
Any other players that have your attention.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
Guys, why is Vanderbilt a touchdown underdog at Auburn.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Because they've been disrespected all year?
Speaker 5 (49:39):
It's disrespect for Diego Pavia.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
I think Vandy wins that game out right. You mentioned Indiana.
I like Indiana. Aiden Childs disappointed me big time against Michigan.
Then one last one, South Carolina. I'm not a big
the books are telling you something or Vegas is telling
you something. Guy, But Texas a and M undefeated in
the SEC, top ten team in the country going to
(50:02):
South Carolina two and a half point favorite there for
a and M. I think that tells you everything you
need to know. I think that South Carolina defensive line
is for real. I think the Cocks win that one,
out right.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
I got more, I got three. I'll go Indiana minus
seven and a half against Michigan State. I'm gonna brack
back Nebraska minus six and a half at home against
UCLA get the ball eligibility.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
For the first time since twenty sixteen. If you don't
like the six and a half.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
I would definitely encourage you to use that money line
and like a three leg parlor or something. And then
not my favorite bet of the week, but my favorite
that I'm at least advertising this one. Iowa Wisconsin over
forty and a half. Five years ago, you would have
never gotten me to do that. I have been an
over team this year. Funny to say, what i WA
(50:54):
Wisconsin over forty and a half.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Are we taking? Are we taking? The service Academy under
Air Force Armies forty one and a half. Army has
been a machine as well this year.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
I think Army might be able to get thirty eight
themselves or something. Yeah, minus twenty two and a half
this week.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
I like Navy bounce back minus eleven against Rice. And
we mentioned that this team a little bit earlier on
their epic collapse last week. Memphis UTSA the over is
under is sixty one and a half. That game just
screams over inside in the Alamodome too. Really decent group
of five quarterbacks and Seth Henket and Oan McCown. Memphis
(51:29):
UTSA over sixty one and a half seems like a
pretty big slam dunk on my end.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
By the way, I know, I know. K State screwed
me last week. They didn't cover.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
Still seven to one of them, still buying all the hype.
Avery Johnson was still great in that game. It was
a case State defense issue. That's a rivalry game. They
escaped it. That's still a pretty easy schedule. Still an
easy schedule the rest of the way. I'm laying it
again at Houston minus twelve and a half. I like
a bounce back spot for the defense. Houston's offense has
been one of the worst in Power Force.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
I think it's a good matchup for Kansas State to
really get going. Well.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
There you go. Plenty of information on the back end
there on top of the big game Penn State and
Ohio State to get you ready for Week ten. For
Mark Henry Junior, Ryan beef Coyle, I am Joe Tancy.
We will be back here next week reacting to the
biggest game of the season yet in a happy value
taking place at noon on Saturday. Best of luck, get
on your bets and we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 5 (52:24):
Spreads total and all the prop bets in between.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
It's the gambler
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