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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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and weal come on into week three Already it's moved
by so fast. The Sicko's College Football Preview with Myself,
Joe Tansey, Mark Henry Jr. Ryan Beef Coil not with
us because instead of just watching Iowa Iowa State and
getting a root canal that way, he decided to have
one actually in person. That's his choice, So he is
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not here. You are just riding with me and Mark tonight.
Plenty plenty to talk about. Let's get right into it. Mark,
your biggest takeaway from week two is.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
What Billy Napier you can start looking for, you know,
ways to sell your house or you know, just ways
to get out of Gainesville and the Florida area because
it ain't working.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's over that that experiment has come to an end.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And I guess on the flip side of that, you
could say, USF let's put them in the playoff until
further notice, probably as that G five team. I don't
know if there's gonna be a G five team that
has a more impressive win than going into the Swamp,
regardless of what we think of Florida, and regardless of
I mean, Florida might be a five to six win team,
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And even if that's the case, that's still a pretty
talented SEC team and a tough place to play, and
early on in the year where the fan base still
should have kind of maximum hope as well.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
So it's not like.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You're beating you know, you didn't beat them in the
Swamp when they were five and four in Week ten.
Florida fans thought they were good coming into that game,
and USF went into the went into their house and
won the game.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And now you have another chance here at Miami.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And honestly, if you just don't embarrass yourself, I think
you're you have the clear path. Not to mention, you
beat a Boise State team that I think is probably,
even in a down year, probably gonna beat up on
the Mountain West and probably gonna have a nine plus
win season. So that's another nice win for USF there.
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And yeah, as long as they don't blow it completely
in the conference schedule or lose by sixty to Miami,
USF might be the one of the more sure locks
we have to the playoff right now?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Still plus two seventy DraftKings Sportsbook two. That's the problemt
They're they have the lowest odds of any G five team.
They look like there's a lot of areas to the
G five level. So I understand it, but too Lane
at plus four fifty, Boise State plus six hundred are
your next two G five And you have Navy at
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plus nine hundred and JMU at plus one thousand, un
LB at plus eleven hundred. So it's still, I guess,
a decently open field, but South Florida is absolutely the
favorite to come out of the G five right now. Mark,
My biggest takeaway from week two is that overreactions on
the odds market are one hell of a drug. Who's
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the Heisman favorite right now?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Hm, that's a good question.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Is John Metier is John Mattier? Wow? At plus eight fifty?
Do you know who the third favorite is?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Carson Beck?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Carson Beck. We're overreacting way too early, like and I
understand it's a fall to the Heisman market this year,
but man, if you're looking in that that second tier
now getting Devin damp Here at plus nineteen hundred is
not worth it because he was at a four high
number beginning of the season. But you look at you know,
who knows what going into this weekend what Georgia is.
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But if Gunnar Stockton is any good and ends ends
up leading Georgia to a win this weekend, that plus
seventeen hundred number looks pretty decent. Hell, Jeremiah Smith is
still plus fifteen hundred, and look Drew Alers sitting there
at plus two thousand. He's got a big game coming
up in two weeks. Those odds aren't going to change
for the working game. I don't think that's something to
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keep an eye on as well, because you know Penn
State is going to be there at the end. Hell,
Jeremiah Smith at plus fifteen hundred is still there. There's
gonna be variation, There's gonna be changes in this market
for sure. But man, when you look at those numbers,
attach some of these players you know are going to
be in the playoff. I know Dreal is going to
be the playoff. I know Jeremiah Smith is going to
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be in the playoff. I know Julian Saying is going
to be in the playoff thirteen hundred, But the preseason number,
it looked a lot better, So I would include him
if you still want to bet him a thirteen hundre
By all means, Oregon looks fantastic. They do. But maybe
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maybe if you want to manipulate the Heisman market, maybe
you again, I know you think Oregan's going into halfy
value of winning, So it's a different strategy from your end.
But if Oregon does dip, say they lose to Penn State,
but then Dante Moore plays out of his mind October
through the first week of December, he'll absolutely be there
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with the lower number. Again, if you're all just you're
you're playing with a little bit of chance here on
on everything in the Heisman market. But the fact that
John Mattiers plus eight fifty I just I can't get
I can't get behind it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I don't know if he'll get the wins to get
there to be in this conversation, But Sawyer Robertson's putting
himself in a nice place statistically for this conversation, eight
hundred and fifty nine yards through two games, and I
don't know if that defense will allow that team.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
To win nine games.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Probably a seven and five, eight and four team, I'd guess.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
But if they can get to even just nine and three,
and maybe even just get to a point where they
play an important big twelve Conference game down the stretch,
then you know this guy is probably on pace for
I'm not a mathematician, but it's gotta.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Be a whole lot of yards, a lot of yards.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I'll say these three names in context with starting off
our week three preview, there's three names. Ones at plus
three thousand and one, ones at four thousand. They played
one of the biggest games of this weekend, arguably the biggest,
depending on how you view these two teams. And if
you think Georgia Tennessee isn't going to decide the SEC
in week three, then that this might be the biggest one.
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I've Marcel Reaid, CJ. Carr and Jeremiah Love another Dame
I believe had off last week. Correct. Yeah, so you're
still going in with what you have from the opening
week of the season against Miami, which still was pretty good.
If Jeremiah Love gets involved, we're talking about a pretty
decent team Texas A and m On the flip side, look,
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I think we firmly put them in that four to
five range in the SEC starting the year, but Marcel
Reid goes in the South bend. You know, that's a
team that could be talked about plenty. And then CJ. Carr. Look,
I don't know if if Love takes away some of
his heisman shine, but again if he has a pretty
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good performance, man, I just I feel like there's room
to buy in this A and M Notre Dame meame
from the heisman perspective. Because you have CJ. Carr at
three thousand, you have Marcell rad at thirty five hundred,
you have Jeremi I Love a plus four thousand. I
think there's there's potentially some stock to buy. I don't
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know it's the heist market in September. You just you
just don't know. But that caught my attention because of
what this game is going to look like this weekend.
I think it's shaping up to be a pretty good one.
I don't know if the line's indicative where my thoughts are.
Though it's six and a half. You're the resident, not
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a dam expert. Tell me why Notre Dame should be
a six and a half point favorite.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I don't think they should be if I was going
to bet this game, I would be betting Texas A
and M. I'm really high on Marcel Reed. I'm really
high only beyond loss, really high on the defensive line.
Notre Dame's offensive line didn't look great against Miami. Yeah,
I think, and I'm gonna win the game out right,
and it's shames. I actually still think that it Dame's
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gonna go like ten and two. And if Editing went
ten and two at the end of the year and
you played Miami in Week four in A and m
in Week eleven, you could after the season be like, oh,
you know, you know not. They didn't do what they
did last year, didn't live up to the national championship
going all the way to the final two. But they
went ten and two, and you know, a year with
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a freshman quarterback, you can accept that. But when it
starts so into I do think the feeling about the
season is going to be a lot different. Unfortunately, so
hopefully I'm wrong, and hopefully Notre Dame wins this game.
They could win this game three to two. For whatever
I care. Style points in this one don't matter. The
covering the spread certainly doesn't matter. I just want Notre
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Dame to have a season this year, because if you
win this game, seasons back on track, you control your destiny.
You can get to the back to the you know,
exact same situation you were in last year, where you
lose game early. This one in a much more acceptable way.
But you lose game early and you win your way
back in. You lose this game, I think the season's over,
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and that's unfortunate to say, and maybe I'm being hyperbolic.
Maybe a ten and two Notre Dame team that won
ten in a row despite the competition not being that high,
would get in. Maybe the committee at that point would
be like, you know, they've won ten in a row.
They lost their games back in you know, August and September,
early September.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
We can excuse that they're a better team. They had
a freshman quarterback, they got better. It's by who they played.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Maybe that would happen if it kind of depends on
how the rest of the field looks more than anything. Probably,
but my guess would be a ten and two Notre
Dame team that lost their two toughest games of the
year probably doesn't get in.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
So I hope I have a season to watch. I
think it's one of the biggest.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I think it's the biggest regular season Notre Dame games
since twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I think you can make an argument for you muted yourself.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I did mute, miss so I let you have the
floor so much on Notre Dame that I didn't want
to interrupt you there. Yeah. I think these are two
of the top ten coaches in college football. I really do.
I think that highly of how Mike Elco runs a program.
I think they got the right guy after the Jimbo
situation went downhill. I think the word of Marcus Freeman.
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I think he's a hell of a head coach as well.
This will be a really well played football game. I
lean A and M. I kind of even lean more
to the under because if look, I think A and
M's first two games that they're forty two to twenty
four and forty four to twenty two. The first games
against UTSA, who just loves to run up and down
the field, so you're gonna get a faster cadence type
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of game. The second one at home against Utah State.
You know, it's kind of a similar vein. But I
just feel like we're gonna see some grind it out,
a lot of rushing the ball, definitely some quarterback runs,
but I don't think too many explosive passive plays are
going to happen in this game. And getting forty nine
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in the hook right now, I really like, I think
the under is probably the best player in this an
m Notre game name game. But there's a lot riding
on this for Notre Dame. You're right, and with Boise
now not in the top twenty five, I mean, look
at that schedule.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
There's a lot of like I wouldn't say that there's
that many easy games on it, but there's not games
that you can say, here going to look like, oh,
here's your standpole here or here's your flag.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Right who's going to be ranked? Maybe Pitt come November
US Maybe.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, probably your best.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Bet, but Pitt might be because of their schedule. But
you yeah, but it doesn't look great. But again you
run the table, go ten and two, and look we're
getting ahead of ourselves.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
But yeah, Arkansas game in Arkansas, we'll see they look
pretty good early.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
But you know, from from what we saw in week
one from the Dame, I really liked what CJ. Carr
brought to the table. I think they do get Jeremiah
Love more involved. I think, if if you are of
the thinking that Notre Dame wins this game, uh, Jeremiah
Love being plus four thousand to win the Heisman is
the bet to make out of this one. Just because
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I think it's gonna be close. I think the spread
is a little too high. I think if Notre Dame
wins that it's going to be a tight, one possession game.
But I think if you're you're exploring all angles of
this Jeremiah Love, if you think Notre Dame wins this game,
Jeremia I Love is probably gonna play a huge role
in this.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I just don't think Notre Dame is ever gonna give
Jeremiah Love the ball enough for anything like that. They
seem so committed to committee running style, and they've talked
about how apparently Jeremiah Love wanted to go to Notre
Dame so they wouldn't give him four hundred carries so
that he'd be fresh when he got to the NFL. Okay,
I don't love hearing that as a Notre Dame fan,
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but that's fine. I uh. And then on the Texas
A and M side, of things. I love Marcel Reid
and I love Le'Veon Loss. I would argue neither put
up big enough stats in the in the in the
kind of the easy games.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
USA and Utah, especially Le'Veon Moss, who I actually think
maybe on Moss, these might be, in all seriousness, in
my opinion, the two most talented running backs in the
country with Jeremiah Love and Le'Veon Moss in this game,
but kind of similar to a Notre Dame, and that
doesn't seem to want to give.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Moss a full bellcals a work. So I kind of
feel like if a M's as good as I think
they might be, and I picked them to make the
playoffs and win some games before the year, I think
it's gonna be because Read and Moss work so well
together almost so it'll kind of take away from either's candidacy.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
So we got two other rank games on the schedule
this week, one we expected to see, another one we
didn't expect to see, and we'll we'll get to that
one first because we've already mentioned the team South Florida.
I mean, what an incredible start to the season. If
you were banking, if you were ranking teams, just on
on merit alone, you could make the case South Floria's
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number one team in the country, and it's pretty convincing.
It's pretty convinced case as well. After they beat Boys,
Statement went to the Slamp to beat Florida. They're once
again a pretty significant underdog seventeen and a half points
at Miami this weekend. The question really is, is the
Miami we saw against Notre Dame in Week one the
Miami that's gonna show up for the rest of the season.
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And if that's the case, can South Florida run with
them again? I think this is gonna be a tight game.
I actually would be in the under in this game
instead of going the seventeen and a half with the Bulls,
because South Florida's defense is the real deal. They just
went into an SEC stadium and held Florida under twenty points.
I mean, forget what you think of Boise this year.
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They held Boise to nothing. I think this is a
game where it's closer than the experts think, and I
think it's a game where Miami is gonna have to
grind it out in the second half.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
My concern is just like, is this the biggest win
in USF history they're coming off of, and are they
going to be reading the press clippings and hearing all
the talk about USF and how if they win this game,
it should be number one according to Dave Portnoy, and
all these people arguing about, you know, how good USF
resume is. It does to me feel a little bit
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like a Miami beatdown spot. This isn't on my card.
I'm not betting this one. I hope I'm wrong. In fact,
I hope us STEF. I think it's a fun storyline.
Then winning this game would be awesome, let alone just
competing in this game.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
So it's a fun one to watch on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I would lean Miami, and I might that might just
be me fading the public, which kind of similar. Maybe
this is a segue. I don't even know if this is.
I don't even think that's a ranked matchup Florida LSU.
I don't think Florida is ranked anymore. No, but kind
of another fade the public situation. This isn't on my
card again, but LSU seems so obvious, like to the
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public and my only seven and a half points, and
this team they beat Clemson and Florida thinks billion Apiers dead.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
They just lost the US.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
If that locker room is at all bought in, at all,
not giving up and throwing the talent, it feels like
a bounce Back Florida spot where they keep it close
and we're all like, what the heck, what do we
know about any of these teams?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
No, that's a pretty good point. I think with South Florida,
we'll know in the first quarter. Yeah, they're either going
to hang get a few stops early, or it's just
going to completely fall apart. And look, this is college football.
This is the you know why we why some of
us here are backing Temple this week in a game
that Temple has no business being in. But we'll get
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to that a little bit. Final ranks matchup because there's
a few interesting lines that I really want to get
into because there's been some movement that I've either gone
for gone against us in a few of these other matchups.
Georgia and Tennessee three and a half points spread. I
believe there in favor of Georgia. I believe there's some
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injuries on the Tennessee defense that we have to be
aware of. This is the first big test for Joey
Aguilar and maybe in a sense it's the first big
test for Gunner Stockton as the guy at Georgia. Last
year he played as the backup. What do you get
a sense of where this game is. I don't know
if I'm gonna play it because I want to see
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how both of these quarterbacks play. But it's a fascinating
matchup on paper, I think.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
So when it was Georgia minus six and a half,
I was tentatively on Georgia and I was like, I
might not end up on the card, but I leaned
Georgia here when it got to three and a half.
There's just a part of me that feels like we're
getting a discount based on a lack of knowledge, if
that makes sense, Like I think there's a good chance.
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I think there's a better chance than not that in
three or four weeks, we look back at this line,
maybe six or seven weeks, I don't know what the
exact time span is, and we say, got a couple
extra points there because we didn't know Georgia was Georgia yet.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
It feels like this should be a seven plus point
spread to me, So getting three and a half, I
get it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Knoxville's a tough place to play and early in the season,
not a ton of experience for Gunner, So I would
I understand hesitancy out there. I understand why people are
betting Tennessee. But they did give up twenty six points
to Syracuse, and that was with Syracuse having a pick
in the red zone, and I felt like Syracuse kind
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of left a lot of opportunities on the table and
went for an on fourth a couple of times. They
actually have more first downs than Tennessee did in that game.
I think they gained three eighty seven total yards in
that game. I think if we're looking at just like
what unit I expect to be the shakiest in this game,
it's Tennessee's defense. So that's where I'm at. I'm leaning
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Georgia minus three and a half. Uh, And there's a
chance I'm totally off, and maybe this is not not
you know, not the Kirby smart Georgia Bulldogs we've become
accustomed to. I guess what I would say to that is,
I don't have any evidence that that's the case yet.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Right, And I think this one, to me, is a
little too early to call. I think I'm gonna stay away,
but I would lean Georgia to your point about the
Tennessee defense being the weakest unit. I do believe that.
Like I said, I believe they're dealing with some injury
issues at the moment as well. And I just I'm
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taking Kirby over Hypel. Yeah, in the coaching matchup.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I have an interesting this is a tangent question for you,
but hey, I think it's the perfect time for the
one podcast I listened to, said top five SEC coaches
right now, How what would you say? Obviously, Kirby's got
to be one Kirby and then some of the name
I'll just throw some of the names out that they
were talking about Sark. I think Kirby Sark have to
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probably be one two with just kind of they've built
At Georgia, Texas, they were kind of debating between the
four of Brian Kelly, Hypel Drinkuitz, and Wayne Kiffin.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
They that was kind of the four that they were
debating between.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I put I'd put Kirby Sark, Brian Kelly, Lane and
Elko Elko.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah. The Elko is an interesting factor too. You're right.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
They they weren't even they didn't even bring up Elko,
and I love Elko, so I'm right there with you.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I just don't see. I don't see how you can
put drink whit's in there yet he has.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I think if they win ten games, it's three straight
ten win years at Missouri. And then of course there
were South Carolina commentaries who were like, well, Sane Beamer
one nine games, lest ye, all right, I.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Feel like Missouri gets the Missouri ain't played nobody. Paul.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, they never play anybody.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Because of how they got put into the SEC and
and the lack of natural rivals and and all that stuff.
And they were an SEC East team for a little bit,
so maybe we don't think about him that way. You know,
they also shouldn't have covered last week, but that's besides
the point. But yeah, I think it's I would I
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think that's a pretty clear five because is not in there.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's what they were also joking about their like the
Boord took Washington to the national championship and somehow we
don't have him on this list, but you have to
consider what he's done in the SEC, which isn't not
I'd probably say Kirby Sark, White Bull, Kelly Olka, Elko
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or Lane. I think that's probably a toss up, but
I was gonna say I probably need Elco to accomplish something.
Lane hasn't accomplished anything, So yeah, yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
And Brian Kelly, I mean, if you're talking about accomplishing something, yeah,
you know, it's like yeah, yeah, you could make that
a pretty ambiguous description. Let's get into some of the
other games, because there were some fascinating line movement specifically
on some of these games, and let's just go right
into the noonslate because Clemson Georgia Tech. So at the
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start of the year, when everybody was hyping up Clemson,
we circled this game as the potential one for Clemson,
where okay, this is where they might slip up because
of Georgia Tech and Haines King and then everything they
have going for them there in Atlanta. Well, Clemson doesn't
look great. They didn' look great against luc you didn't
look great against Troy. The numbers dropped. I think it
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opened in the summer around nine. It's down to three.
The line movement tells me I have to bet Clemson.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Though I have no take on this one, there is
a stay away. You know that I also came in.
Everybody knows my take on Clemson. I've been loud about it.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I feel correct that the that they are not a
true Blue title contender. But I was also the guy
telling people like, let's let's cool the breaks on Georgia Tech.
I didn't necessarily see Georgia Tech as this sleeper playoff
team that everybody else did. And I watched the Colorado game.
I didn't love how Georgia Tech looked in that game.
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Now that's a road game, you know, it's Week one.
I felt like Deon coached Colorado's out of that game
more than Georgia Tech wonted.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I guess so I would probably be with you leaning
Clemson if I had to take a look.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
My take on this game is, now that we're sitting
here and we know a little bit more about these teams,
I think clemson schedule could maybe be a little bit
more daunting than we thought coming into the year. Where
you have at Georgia Tech, we'll see you have at UNC.
That's gonna be an easy one.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
The press problem is the problem is the road games
outside of Look, Louisville and South Carolina are potentially tough
road games, depending one and this one. But I side
with you on the Georgia Tech thing. I watched the
Colorado game, especially the second half. I was of the
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opinion that george Tech was going to run away with
that game, and they didn't. I just it feels like, Okay,
this is And if you've been around college football enough,
you know how these things work.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I know they're all home, but that three week stretch
where you go SMU Duke Florida State is not It's
not easy.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
No, But I think in this specific game, you've watched
college football enough, you know what dabos when he's gonna do.
He's gonna get in front of the team all week
and tell them nobody thinks that they're good. And look,
they've not given any reason for us to prove say
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that they're good. They came out of the gates very
slow against Troy. I only won that game twenty seven
to sixteen. There's gonna be some very motivated players in
that locker room. They might roll Georgia Tech. This might
be a double digit win for Clemson. Like the line
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movement is shifting towards Georgia Tech, nobody in the world
is buying Clemson. And if we've learned anything over the
years with these top programs, Clemson has been around enough,
so I'll include them in that list. They respond And
if you don't respond to the criticism, now, you're not
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going to respond to it for the rest of the year.
And you might as well start fading Clemson during that
brutal stretch against s U Duke, Flora State, Louisville, and
you can even include the Rabbitry game against South Carolina
in that one. But yeah, I think there's a real
possibility that Clemson just rolls Georgia Tech. And I still
like George Deck. I think Hayines King is a fun
college quarterback, but as a team that's going to contend
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the ACC probably not. But yeah, I think the if
the line keeps on dropping, I think you have to
keep hammering Clemson. It just it's just speaking out loud
to me like the Temple line was to me on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Because again, if you've watched college football and you have
a knowledge of it and how these kids react to
big games, there is no shot in hell that the
Oklahoma Sooners are coming up to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania motivated to
play this game after beating the Michigan Wolverines at.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Home on national TV in Week two. There's absolutely no
chance they're up for this entire game. The only problem
is the numbers now moved in Temple's favor. It opened
around twenty four and a half. It's not twenty one
and a half. I'd much I'd feel much more comfortable
getting Temple at plus twenty four and a half because
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they've shown some competence early on in the season. In
the case of Keeler, like, I'm not gonna hear it,
sit here and tell you that Temple's going to win
the game outright, But can they cover? Oh, they can
absolutely cover this game. The first half line, though, is
screaming out loud to me. Even though we're working with
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under two touchdowns, now we're to eleven and a half.
I would have liked that to be thirteen and a half,
maybe fourteen. But I think Temple's got the offense. And look,
if you look at Oklahoma against Illinois State, that game
was close ish in the fourth quarter. I believe Oklahoma
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put two touchdowns on late to make that thirty five
to three, but it wasn't like they overpowered Illinois State.
And I don't know if they can't sit here and
tell you they overpowered Michigan either. I think Michigan created
a lot of its own undoing in that game, uh,
with with play calling and everything like that. I just
don't see how Oklahoma gets motivated going into this game.
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Plus you're back home next week for your SEC opener
against Auburn. Again. I'm not telling you the Temple is
going to win this game, but if you're betting, I
think the side is Temple.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah. I was shocked when Brace brought it up to me.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I was joking about it, and when he said the
number was twenty one, I was shocked because it's not
a number I was plugged in on, not a game
I was plugged in on.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I agree on the leftown spot makes a ton of sense.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I didn't te and you know, to repeat what I
said to Brace this week about he asked about Heisman
and asked about my teer, and I said.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Oklahoma's going to lose four or five games like this.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I didn't walk out of that game being like, oh
now Oklahoma has arrived and they're back and they're a contender.
I walked out being like, oh my god, Michigan's terrible.
I can't believe people tried to act like this might
be a fringe playoff tea.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
You didn't say that they were a fringe playoff team.
You were just that you liked him against Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
But I thought I thought, but I thought I was
buying the press under would happen. He can still be
very good. But I think that the bigger takeaway from
that game is that Michigan was just severely disappointing in
terms of what we're what we were being sold on
the outside.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Sure, Moore's not the guy he and I understand why.
I understand why they kept him.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
You know, with the scandal, you kind of had to
keep it in the house to deal with the skeletons
that were in the closet of the staff that existed.
I guess in some ways would have felt weird to
go be like, all right, we're gonna go higher, like
i' lane Kiffen to come deal with this and like
be and be here in the middle of it like
it would have felt weird. So I do understand why
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they did it, But it does feel like, no matter
what happened after Harball left, they were going to be
left high and drag his harball. Such a special coach, right,
So I think it's in some ways not his fault,
but they coached so scared that whole game. And even
when you're down like a couple of scores in the
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late in the game, let the kid, like unleash it.
Let the kid throw some deet balls, get outside of
the pocket. Did you hear what Sharon Moore said when
they asked why he isn't running more? No?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
What do you say so we don't have a good
backup quarterback?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
A that's insane to recruit this running quarterback to your
team when it's it's.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
So infuriating to me in general, this is such a
you know, you know that.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
You know the show kids say that the darnedest things.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Yeah, coaches say the darness College college football coaches say
the Darnedest Things would be so much better of a
TV show because sometimes some of these guys get.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
In front of the mic and just turn into just
bumbling idiots.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
It's because like a the obviousness of if you have
this kid who one of his main attributes is running,
you should use like what you're paying him to do,
and paying him.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
To be taking him lots of money to be in
the first lot.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Of money, a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
And that's beside the point taking that out of the
equation be what if that guy does get hurt even
without running like that come in the game. Probably not
smart to announce to the world that Michigan thinks they
don't have a backup quarterback. We're not talking about like
we're not talking about Georgia Tech, or we're not talking about.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Like he's little school.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Like it's pretty inexcusable for me for Michigan to be like, oh,
it's Week two and we don't.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Feel good about our backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Like that's pathetic, it's awful. Look, I think we're gonna
fall into the trap on this one, potentially because the
number has inflated. I leave close to four points now,
the backyard brought Pitt in West Virginia. It's a seven
point line now. And look, I understand because West Virginia
lost to Ohio. It's a bad loss. Take no matter
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what stage of the rebuild you're in under Rich rod Man.
I just it feels I feel the opposite way I
do about this game then I do about clemsing. I
feel like the larger this line goes in favor of
Pitt and I could you know it could be a
complete idiot when it comes to this, But the larger
I see this line go to Pitt's favor, the more
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I want to take West Virginia or I'm just I'm
probably not gonna put this game at all. But like
in terms of like how my brain works with college football,
I see clemsing all the way down to three against
Georgia Tech. Yes, I'm taking I see Pitt now all
the way up to seven. It's a four point difference
from when it opened against West Virginia. West Virginia is
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gonna see that. I like if a coach tells you
they don't know the point spread, they're they're lying to
you straight into the face. They all know. They use
it as motivation. West Virginia. Look, it hasn't been great,
but the one thing you can hang your hat on
this year is beating Pitt. That saying it will happen,
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I don't think it'll happen, But the way that line
has moved makes me just completely question everything I know
about that game.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Pitt minus two and a half was going to be
a game of the year for me, I was going.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
To be I absolutely would have taken them a two
and a half.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
It would have been one of my best bets. You
would see me give out all season. I'm still on
Pitt minus six and a half, but I don't love it.
I mean it's it humps up four points. I always
selfishly kind of hate when I get in late on
a line, so hard for me to say I love it,
but I this is my just I think Pitt might
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be like a legit ten team. So I'm gonna put
my money where my mouth is and just back Eli Holstein.
I think he's one of the ten best quarterbacks in
the country. I think Holstein is like a culture changer
there at it.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I really do think which no offense to you know,
holes team, because this is the way like we're at
right now. I agree with you, because we just there's
just so many unknowns of where we're at in terms
of ranking quarterbacks. You at least know he's gonna go
out there and give you a solid performance. I'm not
saying he's number three, Yeah, I'd rank him somewhere eight
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to ten. Yeah, but if you told me, you know,
I hosting top ten quarterback in college football. I wouldn't.
I wouldn't think you're crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah, and I'm just playing my flag and it's gonna
be tough for them.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
You're like, if you're gonna you need to go ten
and two, probably you gotta be you probably gotta go.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
You gotta go three and two. Let's say four and two.
You gotta go four and two in these.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Games at West Virginia, Louisville at home next week, and
then later in the year you close with Notre Dame
at home, at Georgia Tech, and Miami at home. I
skipped an at Florida State game as well. You've got
to go four and two in those games. That's gonna
be really tough. Florida State, Notre Name, Miami especially, those
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three games are really tough.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
You know how I feel about Louisville. I think that
game is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Really tough, but I think it's gonna be really tough
for those teams as well. I really do think Narduzzi
and the offensive coordinator I forget, I forget the OC's
name that they brought in last year to work with
whole steam, But I've never.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Been an Argoozi guy. I think this pit team's gonna
be different this year.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I think they're gonna be an ACC at least an
ACC fringe contender.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Would you say them at fourteen the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Probably not.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Everything I just said is probably fake, but that's schedules.
That schedule's hard. I think they might be a nine
and three team that's better than an eleven and one
team that got some lucky like Nebraska or Indiana or
Illinois or whatever one of those Big ten teams that
kind of has a lucky schedule. They might be better
than the team that makes the playoff, but I think
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it'd be hard sledding that schedule.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Let's hop into the Big twelve for second, because this
to not the surprise at all. This conference has flipped
itself on its own head before we even really get
into confidence play. Kansas State has not looked great. We
thought they were gonna be pretty good. Iowa State, Yeah,
I came in guns blazing preseason talking about them. That
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went over Ioway is gonna end up being huge. I
think more just confidence for the their a good team.
Devin dan Pierre took the world by storm in Week one.
For the three people that stayed up and watched Utah
beat UCLA. Texas Tech is still there, still waiting to
figure out what they're what they're about. I don't know
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if they're on fraud watch, because yeah, I mean, you
go down the list of these teams, and I'm kind
of leading into this this Kansas State Arizona game on
on Friday, because I do think this ends up being
a very very important game in the context of the
Big Twelve season. No Fafita is still there at Arizona.
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He's a good college quarterback. Avery Johnson in Kansas State
need to get off the mat, and they need to
get off the mat fast. I believe this line has
flipped as well a little bit. It's I mean, I
would say I bet the money line either way, because
the spread's going to be one and a half two points.
But the reason I'm bringing this up is because if
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you're Kansas State, you're still on in one in conference
and that's it. You're one and two overall. But what
matters right now is your own one in the Big twelve.
You have this opportunity now where you play Arizona this week,
then you have a buye. You finally get over that
Ireland hangover, and then you play UCF at home, which
is going to be a win. You go to Baylor
and look, Baylor doesn't have a defense. So if by
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that point in the season, you're passing game is on point,
you're in good shape. Do we know what Dylan Edwards
status is.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
He's done, So you gonna have to You're gonna either way.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
You're gonna have to develop running backs and give them
bigger roles. And maybe that bye week is is what
really catapulds them to get Texas second home. The really
only scary road trip is Utah at the end of
the year. I can still play at a scenario in
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my head where that case State Utah game at the
end of November ends up being really important in the
context of the Big Twelve with the caveat here. That's
only important if they beat Arizona, and this would be
the perfect Chris climbing result for them to go in
on Friday and beat Arizona.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, I'm just giving up on them, and I don't
love this. I'm not confident in Arizona. I don't have
any love for Arizona or I think the I think
coach Brennan stinks. But by the way, I don't know.
I don't remember his first name, Brent, Brent. I always
want to say Burt, and I know it's not Burt.
I always want to say Burt Brennan, and I don't.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Know what that is. Or Bert Brennan sounds like a
right guard for Iowa.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
It makes me think of step Brothers for some reason.
But I never know what.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I always forget that first name. But yeah, I'm not
I've never been a fan. I thought that was a
bad hire. Jed fish leaving was so hard to replace.
He's a special coach as well, I think so. But
having said all that, I think Case State's just, you know,
it's a little bit like Florida State last year. It's
not quite as incompetent, but where I just think they
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are the team that they're the dead coach. They're the
dead team walking team a little bit. Maybe you could
say dead coach walking too, But I think that give
me Arizona.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I'm not confident. I don't love it.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I do like New Mexico Friday Night a little bit
more than them. If I'm talking about my favorite Friday play.
That's and again that's not me loving New Mexico. That's
just a fade off, you see, so I never I
always like to say it's you know, you get in
trouble when you're betting against teams, not betting on teams.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
I'm doing quite a little bit of that this weekend,
so we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I'm intrigued by the other game on Friday. Houston has
only given up nine points. Now, look, it's against Stephen
f Austin and Rice totally get that. But we're talking
about coaches, right, coaching with advantage. Willie Fritz is one
hell of a coach. There's a reason why Tulane was
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so successful. And I kind of when we were doing
these previews and I was looking at the Big Twelve,
I didn't pinpoint Houston as a team that could win it,
right because I think that's it's still probably a year
or two away from getting back to where they were
under Dana. But I think they're going to build something
this year. And I think we finally see that on Friday.
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If had two games to build up to this, I
wasn't totally blown away with with Dion in Colorado against
Georgia Tech. They're on their third string quarterback already. That
doesn't bode well, and I do think WILLI Fritz is
the better coach. Oh, by the way, they've got a
stable quarterback and Connor Wegman. I think this is a
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game where, look, Houston's gonna win this, They're gonna cover
and maybe we have a little bit of a conversation
about Houston a lot, not a big one, but enough
on a Friday night to be like, oh, look at
what WILLI Fritz is building and with you on on
the fate of UCLA though, So I watched that. I
watched that Ucla un LV game. It's tough watch. It's
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tough watch. Yes, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
I picked the LD before the years playoff.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
I think are bad so so U n LV beating
U c l A I think says more about U
c l A than anything.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
I'm going to a little game here. I have four
big no I'm betting this week as big favorites.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Uh, I'm gonna have you pick one that you'll you
could also better, you might also be on your card,
and then pick one that's maybe in a one possession
game at the end of the game. And I'm feeling
like an idiot because I bet them have twenty.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
The group Texas is just firing off by the second quarter.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, so a Alabama minus twenty and a half versus Wisconsin,
I think.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
No, No, that's that's gonna be. Yeah, especially in TUSCALALUSA.
That's not happening.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Oregon minus twenty seven and a half at Northwestern.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
The eleven A the eleven AM game in Evanston after
a big butt whooping with a ton of motivation. That
that's I'm glad you brought that up, because that's the
typical big ten spot that you circle and if it's
the look, Oregon could win this game big, and they
should win this game big. But that's not how college
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football works. Yeah, that's a game you circle at halftime
and be like, oh, that's interesting, they're only up ten.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
I think Fox noon kickoff being there helps, Like, I
think Lanning needs a little juice to get the team going.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
And it's like, oh there he like.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
I think it being like a little bit of a
national game, I think Lanning can can get them up
for it. USC minus twenty one against produced fighting barry Otems.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Want nothing to do with that. Is that the game's
in West Lafayette.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
It's in West Lafayette.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah, I don't I want nothing to do with that one.
And then I want to I want to see more
of USA.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Devin Dan Pierre running all over the field at Wyoming.
You tall minus twenty three at Wyoming.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
We're going with Western is gonna be the close game?
Speaker 3 (44:46):
It before Okay, and you're in on Bama.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Oh yeah, Wisconsin. Wisconsin's dead team walking. It's a shame
because Luke Nickles, Yeah, Bama has to win like Luke Fickle.
It's a shame it didn't work out. But that feels
like it's it's getting really close to the end. There,
just as a note while we're talking, and this could
change in the next three days. Oklahoma is now back
up to twenty two and a half. Wow, So that's
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something I will absolutely have my eye. I know we
talked about a ton of these games this week, but
is there any other ones you want to touch on
or you have a play on before we get out
of here. Just two more.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
My best bet of the week and best bet of
the weekend is col plus two and a half against
Minnesota late night. Yes, Minnesota traveling two time zones over
ten to thirty.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Game justin Wilcox as an underdog.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yes, I'll have the stats by Saturday. I don't have
the Wilcox underdog stats hand we got.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
You got two trends out there, you got two trends
in play. You have the Wilcox as an underdog, and
you have the Big ten teams traveling West.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, and in general, teams traveling two time zones is
always tough, but and especially I would bet this even
in the years, the last couple of years where Cal's
kind of the most mid sixth and sixth team you've
ever seen.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
But I don't know if they're mid anymore. Jaren kiyab
Sungapool of La.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Is a kid JKS as I call him. I think
he's true freshman QB. I think he posted the best
PFF grade of any true freshman quarterback of all time.
If you look at the rest of the top five, too,
it's like all like really good players like Tua was
in there. I think Sam Bradford might have been, like
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there was some like it was all NFL guys and
all the first round picks that were on the list.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Have we gotten Sean Brace to pronounce that name yet? No?
Speaker 3 (46:38):
He said the cow kid, he said, I'm only.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Calling JKS Brace JKS.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
I was asking him to pronounce it with me today
on the show. He got Jaren, he got Kiave. When
I got the songa pool of tea, he said, he
asked to come. And the other one, I'll throw it
you Tulane. Duke interesting one because you have Darien Mensa
who went from the Duke got the got the crap
kicked out of them against Why am I blanking on it?
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Duke got.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
And you love that, you loved Illinoy and that one
shout out to you. I stayed away, I said, I
leaned Illinoy in that one. I should have roaded with
them and backed them really really just dismantled them in
the second half. I lean Tulane here. I know maybe
some people would say bounce back spot for Duke. I
don't think Duke was is that good. I think last
year was a little bit fluky, easy schedule. I think
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Malik Murphy was a good fit for that roster. They
lost some guys. I don't think Duke's any good. I
think Tulane probably besides the USF that next most likely
G five team. So give me Tulane on the money.
Lin it's like minus one and a half.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
I think South Carolina's going to dismantle Van Philip Okay, interesting,
I just I see the spot and it's again, this
is something that I'm just I'm reading based off what
I see with the number. It's a night game in Columbia.
We just saw the Noora Sellers two weeks ago in
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front of a national audience, and that looked great. By
the way, Nick Harbor is an absolute freak. I know
Vanderbilt's got Diego Pavia, but look, Virginia Tech's a dead
team walking. They beat an FCS school in week one.
This is their first SEC road trip. I think the
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public might be buying too high on Diego Pavia. And
if you're gonna buy high on Diego Pavia and give
me South Carolina as a four point favorite right now
with Lenora Sellers and now look, I'm not a fan
of South Carolina as a whole. I think nine in
three might be where they land. But in this specific matchup,
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I think that they they'll blow the doors off of Vanderbilt.
No pun intended.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Just and again I mentioned Malik Murphy already did it
too many times. Oregon State I think might hang tough
with Texas Tech. I they also definitely might stick, but
they're twenty three and a half point dog. Texas Tech
hasn't played anybody yet, and Oregon State might not be anybody.
But Texas Tech has a has a road trip to
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Utah next week, so maybe a little bit of a
little bit of a you know, in between spot here
where they look ahead and Oregon State keeps it a
little bit closer, and even last week they should have
beat Fresno. Fresno goes down the field, kicks a field
goal to go up by one with a couple seconds left,
and then Oregon State there's a pick six where the
score looks a little bit worse than it actually was.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
They were actually I think they were the better team
in that game.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
But yeah, Arkansas and miss has potentially get really freaky.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Let's find out what Arkansas is in this game. That's
the one who has a as Notre Dame. Let's say
Notre Dame beat Texas A and M. Their toughest scheduled,
the toughest tests on the rest of the schedule.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Might be going to Fayetteville. So I'd like to find
out what Arkansas is.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
I think the overs and player at sixty one and
a half Taylon Green is an excellent quarterback. Was that
Boise went to Arkansas that got the bag? And I
don't know if all miss look can they defend? I
don't know, but I liked the little bits and pieces
I saw out of Austin Simmons. But I think that's
a game where come like nine to thirty on Saturday night,
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we pop up and be like, oh ole miss An
Arkansas are just going just throwing haymakers at each other
while A and M and Notre Dame are grinding and
out in South Bend. I could see that. I think
that's a pretty good matchup. Well, I think we covered
pretty much. Feels like we covered pretty much every game
as we always do. Her on the Sickos Preview. Befo'll
be back next week. Hopefully we might just have a
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