October 24, 2024 • 43 mins
The Big Brains - Joe Tansey, Ryan "BEEF" Coyle", and Mark Henry Jr. discuss the week that was Week 8 in #CollegeFootball and dive into Week 9!
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello everyone, and welcome on into our college football Week
nine preview. Myself, Joe Tancy, Mark Henry Junior, Brian Beef
Coyle here to break down a massive Top twenty five
slate yet again, a lot of ranked matchups. Maybe not
the marquee matchups like we've had in the past few
weeks with Texas Georgia, but we have plenty of matchups
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that will shake up the top twenty five this weekend,
and a lot of it, honestly, guys, has something to
do with playoff odds as well, right, because when we
look at this list at Draftings Sportsbook of teams to
make the playoff, it really is an interesting mix of teams,
a lot of teams that can make statements this weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
No, I'm gonna jump in and just say that I
think this slate's being a bit overrated by the face
below me here on the screen. I hear Beef saying,
this is the best week of the year so far,
But this noon slate stinks. Kind of the three thirty slate.
It's got something Missouri. If Missouri was better, I think
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that this slate would be more interesting. I'm underwhelmed by
this slate.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I'll be honest, I think the like we talked about it,
where the marquee matchup of the week I guess is
LSU A and M, which doesn't scream, you know, like
it has in the past few weeks with Georgia, Bama, Oregon,
Ohio State, Texas Georgia. But I think the overall balance
from THURSDA starting Thursday night a great game with Syracuse
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Pitt Friday an elimination game pretty much between Boise and UNLV,
and then Saturday like five rank first ranked games. There's
a handful of other good games in there as well.
I just think the overall balance And I haven't looked
at next week's slate, but next week's like could just
be the same thing. I just think the roster or
excuse me, the conference in alignment has just made for
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so many more going intriguing matchups and also taking out
the divisions within the conference as well, it has made
for so many more intriguing matchups and games that matter more. So,
I just think the overall kind of balance from starting
Thursday night all the way through Saturday night with Colorado
Cincinnati just good game after good game.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'll push back a little bit. I can't get up
for Syracuse pit I'm sorry. I can get up. I
can get up for boys at UNLV. But like to me,
like and and maybe this is just my maction bias.
This is sticking in here. But I can't get the
October Tuesday Wednesday games c USA. I know you tried.
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I know it's college football on my screen. It has
not been on my screen. There's just so many other
moving pieces in the sports world where I want to
I want to love it. I want to say computer
college football, let's go hang out on the couch. Let's
let's let's hang out for a few hours. I can't
do it on Tuesday and Wednesday outside of maction like
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it's it doesn't feel right. And the Thursday night game
because we have Thursday night football in the NFL. It's
just again, I want to love it. But to be honest,
I'll probably watch about five seconds of Syracuse and Pittsburgh.
I don't think I've bet a Thursday night college football
game all year. It's kind of just I want to
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love it. I wanted to, I want to be friends
with it, but I just I can't really get into
college football until until Friday.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I think I'll watch more on of Syracuse Pitt and
I think I will Vikings Rams. I don't know why.
I it's probably doesn't even have money involved with it.
Like I just think it's gonna be a fun game
that could be like thirty eight thirty five. And we've
had so many nights Thursday night football snooze fest in
the NFL this year. But you know, to each the
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basketball starts to Mondays. I'm excited at the.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Play tonight, by the way.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So let's get into a lot of these games starting
with the Friday.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
That will make no sense on audio. Me me just going.
If anyone's listening, I stuck my hands in my hands.
I can't be I can't be thinking college basketball yet.
I saw s Beef talking about Ryan Kulkbrenner on my timeline.
I feel like that guy has been in my life
for a decade. I can't do it yet. I can't
do it.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So let's get into the these games here, because we're
gonna mix them in with our playoff odds, because I
think it's a conversation to have about the playoff odds.
But also there's so many games that these teams. I
guess from minus one fifty and below are in this
week that it just feels right to dive right into
these games and talk about, you know, the playoff prospects
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of these teams. And the first thing we have is
Boise State at UNLV. This is Boise State's toughest game
left on the schedule. Now they could face each other
again in the Mountain West title game, also very possible.
Boise State enters this week even money plus one hundred
to make the college football playoff, which I'm surprised isn't
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as or maybe a little bit lower. And then when
you go through the group of five teams, one of
those teams has to get in. Liberty and UNLV are
both plus seven hundred, and then you have to go
down a little bit to Army at plus twelve hundred
and Navy at plus fifteen hundred, and the raging Cajuns
of Louisiana Lafayette are at plus fifteen hundred as well.
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So when you're looking to bet this game with Boise
State and UNLV, if you like UNLV, is it better
to bet them to make the playoff or is that
too much of a risk. But also keep in mind
Navy plays Notre Dame this weekend, So that's a game
that could potentially knock Navy further down the totem pole
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of how we rank the Coup of five teams.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, I think the big thing with that one is
you're most likely gonna have a rematch between Boise State
and UNLV and the Mountain West title game. So I
don't think the winner of this is necessarily in the
driver's seat of anything. And I also think the loser
of this I want to hear what you guys say
about this, but the loser of this game is eliminated,
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no matter if they go and win the Mountain West
title game or not, because that would be a two
loss G five team. Obviously, stuff has to play out
with Army and Navy with Notre Dame and then potentially
playing themselves in the American Title Game as well or
playing a Memphis maybe in the American Title Game. But
I do think the loser of this one is eliminated.
I've always been over the past kind of year and
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a half. Now I've I kind of blind pat UNLV
and I like them plus three and a half at
home in this one, you look at their strength on
the defensive side. Eighteenth best rush defense in the country. Obviously,
they're they're facing a different beast this week. But if
it's any unit in the Mountain West that could potentially
slow down John t and saying that is like holding
him under one hundred fifty yards, it might be UNLV.
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They might have the formula, and if it does get
into a shootout, I think they got the offense to
do it. So you're gonna give me the three and
a half, I'll certainly take that, but I think that
they can win this game for sure. This is kind
of UNLV Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I don't think it's an elimination game though, because you
look at Boise State's loss, it's to Oregon. So if
if Boise State gets, you know, splits essentially with UNLV,
And look at the rest of these contenders. Right across
the G five Liberty is playing. We're recording this on
Wednesday night. Liberty is playing right now, but they haven't
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played any inspired football at all. And and look as
much as if you don't want to admit it, as
the committee doesn't want to admit it, they saw what
happened when Liberty got in this G five team last year, right,
so that is going to be in their minds when
they when they talk about liberty. If you have Army
and Navy. Now, I think the tougher parts of their
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schedules are in the second half of the season. They
both play Notre Dame and the AAC is starting to
look like it has a few contenders with Memphis, who
just beat North Texas this past weekend, and then the
Sun Belt. James Madison going down to Georgia Southern is
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a big result as well. If you look at the
other receiving votes in the a people the top twenty five,
there aren't many G five teams. I think UNLV is
there and that's it. So I really think, at least
at this point in time, you can't rule out Boise
because if Oregon continues to play the way they do,
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the committee is going to look at that game and
look at that score and say, oh wow, Boise state
the caliber of their team, look at what they did
against a caliber of Oregon who could potentially finish the
season at number one. So if if you're looking at
it from that perspective, and they lose to UNLV on
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Friday night, the committee may only approach this as well. Really,
they're just a one loss team. I think that's a
realistic scenario. Now they have to go in and beat
UNLV in the Mountain West title game for any of
this to come to fruition. But yeah, but I don't
think I don't think Bois. I think UNLV is done
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if they lose, but I don't think Boise's done. Because
of the competitiveness of that game against the work I.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Don't think Boys's gonna lose the game. I like Boise
in the game minus three, and I think UNLV has
had like historic turnover. Look. If you look at their defense,
they've had thirteen interceptions, a bunch of forced fumbles, and yeah,
absolutely that there's a skill to that, and there's a
talent to that, and obviously some defenses take away more
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than others. I think you could also look at it
and say they've won a couple close games that have
been swung by turnoverlook, whereas Boise, you can't really say
that because they kind of just been taking care of
business against everyone they play besides that organ game obviously.
But like UNLV only wins by possession against the Oregon State,
they lose by three against against the Syracuse team that
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hasn't looked quite as good since that game, I feel like,
and then you they're obviously a close win against Kansas
that looked great earlier in the year. At Kansas team
is terrible, so I don't I'm just not as impressed
with the UNLV resume. And then I mean, obviously, the
square the square angle of it is just I keep expecting,
and I said this like a couple of weeks ago,
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I keep expecting Ashton Johns to have the seventy five
yard game or like the ninety yard one touchdown game
where it's like, all right, but it just doesn't happen.
He's that good, He's he's Michael Myers back in the
backfield as he dressed up for before that game. The
stance in the backfield, by the way, all the memes
about it are some of the funniest of all time
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on college football Twitter, with how weird he stands in
the backfield. If anyone doesn't know, there's people doing like
Sabrina Carpenter and Michael Myers memes with the way Ashon
Johns stands in the backfield. But he really is a
he's a killer back there. I mean, I've never seen
I can't remember the last running back who has just
jumped off the screen week after week after week. It's
probably like Adrian Peterson, and even he didn't put up
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these numbers really, so maybe Zeke, like I'm trying to
think of, like, who were these like great, great great
running backs.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I know, Ricky Williams is probably before both of your.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Times, before my time. Yeah, maybe Todd Gurley was really good.
I'd have to look at his status. I have to
take a look.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Popped up, like if we're talking about like generational like
pop off. I Ricky Williams definitely thought. You know, he's
in that category every I mean every time he played
for Texas, it was it was absolutely must see. Reggie
Bush isn't that category as well obviously after but right, yeah,
Peterson is absolutely I mean he was a menace at Oklahoma.
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I'm trying to think of a few the Arkansas running backs. Yeah,
I mean, look, Peyton Hillis had to run there with
that with that Arkhall Arkansas offense, right, I mean you
had you had Felix Jones and Darren McFadden and Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Darren mc Sarry mcaden is pretty good now that I'm
looking at, right, he was very good.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
You shown Alexander, but I think that was a little more.
He was a little more NFL. I don't think we
I don't think we understood how good the Danian Tomlinson
was until he got to the NFL. Another but another
stud But yeah, you're right. It takes a special type
of of running back to really just be that that
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must see television.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Named Harrick Henry.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, I was a weird Heisman that year. If I
if I don't remember, let me take a look at that.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But you have these.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Preview has turned into a blast from the past.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
He had a twenty Yeah, so his thing was he
was a one year guy. I guess John t. Kaina
is too.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I mean Mark Ingram had a great season too.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, Henry had had twenty two hundred yards. A little
impacted by him playing fifteen games, and it's also a
little impacted by him playing probably behind like five NFL
offensive linemen in Alabama, And that's part of what crazy
about this.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
But remember back in there was a good stretch of
of Nick Saban's are at Alabama where there weren't good quarterbacks. No,
it was like the Brody Kroyles of the world that
were starting that we're starting a quarterback and and winning
these games.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
A J.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
McCarron. These they weren't superstars. They were game man it
best and and the talent they had around them was
so good. So yeah, I mean that's that's kind of
what made the Henry's and the Ingrams of the world.
They were just it kind of had to in certain games.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
But I think Greg mcd no.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, absolutely, John Parker Wilson, you know, we can start naming.
We can start naming.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
But yeah, look, I think the simply put the best
player on the field is Ashton genty and until somebody
stops him, Uh, why bet against him? I like the
line I look at three now the total itself though
at sixty four? How do we look at at it there?
Because UNLV has played in a bunch of high scoring games.
But if Boise stated is dictating the tempo, I guess
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it all depends on how quickly Genti breaks loose.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, I think this game has the potential to be
the if you're at the bar, you look to the
bartender for your next beer, and you look back and
there's another touchdown scored. Like I could see this being
three four play drives kind of going back and forth
with some crazy kind of Friday night lights type magic.
The offense. I think it's definitely looked better with Malik
Williams back there rather than Sluka. I think that they've
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been more explosive, and he definitely adds a little bit
more of more explosion with his rushing ability to that offense.
But I kind of go back to why I like
UNLV potentially a little. They've shown the ability to stop
the run this year. Maybe that's because people have thrown
the ball a lot on them. That Syracuse game sticks
out to me where it seemed like McCory just could
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do whatever he wanted in that game. So we'll see
kind of what Boise State goes with, obviously with a
heavy rushing attack, but I think it's going to be
a fun one and one of the games of the
weekend that probably won't get as much attention because it's
so late on a Friday night.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Matt since twenty sixth then QBR by the way, so
it'll be interesting. Like with Johnty, it's it's is he
just run deepproof like he doesn't?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
That's what I'm going with.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
That does it matter who he's going against, and then
if he's passing, offense can get going. It's a bad
pass defense, and then Ashton does his thing. That's why
online Boise. I know it's pretty square though.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, but you know the square can be good sometimes.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
But ask nfelt better the past two weeks public speak killing.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Let's hop into the Saturday sight now and kind of
continue this conversation about the group of five. So you
have Navy and look that to make the playoff odds.
We've talked so much about Army and Navy and how
awesome it might be to see both of those teams
compete for the playoff. Well, the oddspeakers have a little
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bit of a different theory on this. They have Army
at plus twelve hundred. They have Navy at plus fifteen hundred.
I forgot to mention earlier. Memphis is plus eight hundred.
They're the AAC team with the lowest odds to get
into the playoff. And now you have Navy coming in
to this game against Notre Dame at MetLife. Notre Dame's
got all the momentum in the world. They still have
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that Northern Illinois loss on the resume. That's not going
to go anywhere, and if they end up losing another game,
it's really gonna hurt them. They literally have no margin
for error at this point. But you have the age
old question, can a team in the modern day of
college football properly deal with the triple option on a
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on a one week preparation Because Notre Dame has been
probably any regular twenty twenty four offenses now throw the
wrench of the triple option, and a very good one
at that with Navy. Navy have a thirteen point underdog.
How do you guys see this game playing out?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
It would scare me more if Navy was two and four.
I'll just be honest. I just think I think them
being ranked and everyone hyping up like, oh, can Notre
Dame be Service academies? Like I actually think Marcus Freeman
will stupid, which makes the Northern Illinoy game that much
more annoying. How good they've been since and how good
I think they'll be against the Service academies. I think
Army is better than Navy, so I actually think it's
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unfortunate for Army that they're the second triple option team
that Notre Dame will see. Like I think if you
told me this game was Army and then the second
game was Navy, I'd probably be a bit more scared
of this game and of a of a loss here.
I think Bryce Daily just makes can make more happen
outside of schedule with the triple option. I mean I
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was looking at it. Does he have like like six
or seven hundred passing yards maybe a little bit more
than that Army for Army, that's a lot. That's like,
that's like one hundred of game or a hundred plus
a game for Army.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So no, I think you said sixty seven hundred. No, yeah,
that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
For a lot, I'd be a lot for anybody. But yeah,
I think they Army would scare me a bit more.
But I think it plays out nicely for Notre Dame
that I think they're getting the easier test first and
then we'll play a second triple option team down the line.
I actually think, and you guys know, I have not
been positive on their name this year. I don't think
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they should be in the playoffs still, but I don't
I'm not as worried as I think the consensus is.
And I guess I kind of agree with Vegas. Where
are they at right now on that spread, it's like
thirteen right now.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Thirteen.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, it wasn't seventeen. The look ahead was seventeen last week.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Do you touch the total of fifty one.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I just gave one pretty close there, thirty seventeen. That's
pretty close to that line. Yeah, I mean I would
lean under. I would lean under. The other thing. I'll say,
Benjamin Morrison is Notre Dame's best player. He's out for
the year corner. He'll probably be a top ten, top
fifteen pick next year. I don't think Army and Navy,
especially Navy are going to be able to care of
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what that opens up with Notre Dame's defense. So I
think Notre Dames this is again kind of lucky for
them how it played out.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Schedule was Yeah. My take just I don't really have
a total take on the game, but big picture wise,
I think it's funny to look back after the Northern
Illinois loss and be like, all right, we have Notre
Dame has no real exciting wins potentially on their schedule
ahead USC maybe at the end of the year. That
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was already a couple of weeks in Florida State already
looked at and then you chalked up Army. Navy has
some easy wins. Now it's like these look have the
potential to be resume boosting wins, Like maybe you're beating
two eleven and one teams under schedule by the end
of the year. I think it's kind of funny how
it came around, But I'm definitely in the camp that
if Notre Dame wins out, they'll be in, especially with
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teams like we'll miss the way that they haven't delivered.
Alabama most likely going for three losses. If Notre Dame's
sitting there at eleven and one on selection Sunday, I
think they'll be in. But it's it's not going to
be easy to get past these two teams. But I
think you said best mark. As long as they get
past Navy, I think they'll be much better equipped down
the line to beat Army, just because of the kind
of familiarity with the offenses.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah, the best thing that's happened to Notre Dame is
what we were talking about earlier with Texas A and M.
Like Texas A and M being undefeated. Since that game,
winning a couple of tough ones, I haven't really had
the more key Marquee win since that game, but them
chugging along and being undefeated in the SEC, it's gonna
be big for that. I mean, at this point, I
think the worst A and M will do is eight
and four and will probably be nine to three, ten
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to two, so that win looks better and better. So
I mean, if you're eleven and one with a win
like that on the road in the SEC, you get
in and people will ignore the.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Fact that you had one of the more embarrassing losses
in the history of sports.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think it might affect seeding, but they'll get in
if they win. They'll get in if they went out,
for sure. Let's keep the ball rolling here. Indiana has
game day come into Bloomington. Look this is.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, yeah, Scar, Yeah, I'm scared of the backup quarterback.
I'm just scared.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
This is exactly what I was gonna try and lead
into here. Curtis work isn't playing game days coming to town.
Washington is a steady, organized defense. Is this the letdown
spot for the Indiana Hoosiers.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
My worry is, like I can kind of close my
eyes and picture conversation where Indiana is nine and three
at the end of the year where like they lose
these next two weeks with a backup, they lose to
Ohio State, and then they win their other games and
we're like, man, but work wasn't there in those two games,
Like can we get them?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Man?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I can already kind of close my eyes and see
that that conversation which we've seen before, where it's like,
well that loss was with a backup, so should it count?
And you kind of do that and roll. And that
was different with four teams. Now with twelve, I think
you're even you'll see a little bit more of that,
potentially more of that kind of explanation for seeding and
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teams getting in. So, yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I don't think so. There's just kind of something about
this team, And I think the supreme confidence at the
top with SIGs and the way that he not only
talks to the media, but like I could only imagine
what his like pregame speeches are or practice. He just
seems so utterly confident that it bleeds through to that
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entire team and he's gotten that entire campus, that entire
student body, everyone to buy in another national televised game.
You know everyone's going to be watching Indiana Hoosiers football.
It sounds funny to say that, but this is a
team that it just has kind of something special about them.
And Jackson adds a rushing element. And we saw the
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rushing element and what it was able to do with
the JMU offense last year. Are they able to tap
into a little bit more because we know Rourke's not
much of a runner, much more of a pocket guys, Jackson.
Does he add another element to this offense? I think
is something gonna be interesting to see. I really like
Indiana at home in this one to cover. I like
it to get some points too. Indiana. It was surprised
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to see number one scoring offense in the country forty
eight point seven points per game. I think this one
could go over to fifty three and a half number
as well.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Do you know the fight song, Beef?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I heard it a couple of times last week.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Learn it for next week. We'll sing it. We'll sing
it together. If they covered, I am going to bet it,
just out of respect. They've been so good to me
all year long. I'm gonna bet the six and a half.
I'm nervous. The thing I'm most nervous about is I
think this Rourke kid might be an NFL guy like
these back shoulder throws. He's so polished in the pocket.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Like his brother's a CFL legend.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
My concern is that this is almost like a Michael
Pennox situation for Indiana, which is funny to say since
Michaels was literally at Indiana, But I'm saying Michael Pennix
with Washington, where I think he's single handedly and obviously
the boor and the receivers and there were a lot
of people who are a big part of that. But
that Washington run and then being a literal national title contender,
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making the national championship doesn't happen if they don't have
a guy like Pennix playing like one of the best
quarterbacks in the country. I'm a little bit nervous that
we're in the kind of same situation here with Indiana,
and maybe we're not talking enough about how good Rourke
has been and how big of a part of it
he's been. I think we've been so transfixed on SIGs
and obviously for obvious reasons, he's he's off Google. He's awesome.
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Google him. But the IM I do think there's almost
Rourke went under the radar a little bit before this injury.
Just how good he was.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, I think with to me, it's more situational, right,
is like, how does a team that has catapulted themselves
into the college football playoff picture, how did they handle
college game day? How they handle all this attention? And
on the flip side of the coin, if you're Washington, look,
everybody's been talking up Indiana for the last month now, right,
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Washington just got destroyed at Iowa two weeks ago, forty
to sixteen. They have forty points to Iowaha. Guys, nobody
does that, and that was right after beating Michigan at home.
The only concern I have is Washington's defense maybe over
corrects itself. But if you look at what they've done
on the road, the loss to Iowa stands out, and
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then the big fluky game against Rutgers is the other
road loss, but it still counts as a loss and
they only put up eighteen points, So it is a
little bit concerning. I think it was maybe a different opponent,
I'd be a little more concerned about Indiana. But in
terms of like the emotional spot backup quarterback college game day,
everything's going right for you. I mean This would be
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the spot to fade Indiana if you had the bass
to do it.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I do not. Did Beef stay beef? Did you say
you liked the over in this game?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah? I think I think Indiana could certainly put up
thirty five themselves, and I could see Washington getting three
touchdowns potentially as well. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, I mean Indiana six and one to the over
this year and Washington is their first five games went
under the last two have went over. You look at
Will Rogers. Will Rogers kind of slinging it a little bit,
throwing for two hundred and sixty yards per game. He's
got eighteen hundred twenty yards, thirteen touchdowns, two picks, seventy
two percent completion percentage. Like he's kind of back on
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his Mike Leech harrd bs there a little bit. So
Will Rogers a guy I really liked it. He first
kind of hit the scene in Mississippi State, flamed out
a little bit there for a while after Leach passed away,
to be honest, and he seems to have found it
a little bit with Fish there in Washington. So Washington's
got problems for sure, Like like as he mentioned, with
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the defense, you can't give up forty to Iowa, which
is kind of I'm talking to myself into that over.
I like that. I like that number, beef. I think
I'm gonna add that.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Let's let's get on into the SEC. Missouri and Alabama,
this game has a little less juice to it now.
It feels like it's going to be an Alabama cruise
rebound spot. Brady Cook, the quarterback from Missouri who heroically
came back from a lower body injury to beat Auburn,
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is now doubtful. I believe there's issues with the running
back as well. And the backup quarterback at Missouri is
Drew Pine. Notre Dame, Arizona State legend. I think he's
been about five different places. I think I texted you
guys on Saturday afternoon, like Drew Pine still exists, still
has a home in college football. He did not look good.
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There's a reason why Brady Cook came back from the
hospital to try and win that game in salvage Missouri season.
Because Drew Pine could not get that offense to move whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Terrible.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, and if you're a Missouri fan, you have to
be absolutely terrified. The line is now sixteen and a
half in favor of Alabama. You have to be absolutely
terrified if Brady Cook can't go, because it just feels
like to me that they really have no hope if
Cook is down for good.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Well, I have a I have boots on the ground.
I'm in Missouri as we speak right now, broadcasting from Nixa, Missouri.
But I overheard someone at a brewery.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I love this. I love this.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I overheard someone, you know, I really think we can
beat Alabama. That Vanderbilt teams not that good. They beat Alabama,
so they're they're buying in.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
That reminds me of when I was in when New Orleans.
Some lady saw our Eagles jersey and she just came
up and goes, I love Jalen. He's so Nats. I
love him.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
This is a wacky man this.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
So the question is how high do you play Alabama.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I'm not touching anything regarding Alabama. I have their season
win total over nine and a half, so I'm kind
of just crossing my fingers on that. For the rest
of you. I also have missoo over nine and a half,
so really no point, no point embedting this one for me.
But I just don't think you can trust Alabama what
kind of product shows up on the field. I think
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we thought that game against South Carolina a couple of
weeks ago was the get right spot, the chance to
write the ship, and we kind of saw the same
issues flare up in that game that we saw against Vanderbilt,
and we saw the same things last week. And Milrow
I think has actually regressed since that Georgia game. So
I'm not touching anything regarding Alabama. I think this one
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is more so just a stay away, a lot of unknowns,
especially with what Missouri could click on offense the.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
D I mean, Bama is gonna win this game. I
think I'm not gonna touch it, but they are gonna
win the game. They're only tough game remaining is at LSU. Yeah,
and they have and they have a bye before it,
so that it's and especially I don't know who else
if LSU plays anyone between that, I'm gonna take it.
Look now, but if LSU wins this week, now they're
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on a buy as well. LSU Bama on November ninth,
and Death Valley could be an all timer like that,
because that's probably an elimination game in some ways. I
don't LS you could probably get in with two losses
with a win against an M now, but that game
would be so huge on both sides, And that's kind
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of a game that you can point to and be like,
you don't have that game without the fourteen player or
without the twelve team playoff, that game does not matter.
With the fourteen playoff, Bama would be out right now
unless they somehow wiggled their way into the SEC championship.
But I've been kind of lower on Bama than anybody.
I feel like I bet against them in every big
game they've been in, but and it's been mixed results. Obviously,
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I will say I think they're in the playoffs, like
if it comes down to that LSU game, but I
think if they win that game, they're in and all
of our like belly aching was kind of everyone freaking
out about Bama was it's not it's gonna be for
naught if they beat l s U.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So you're saying, if Bama goes ten and two, they're in.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Definitely with against Georgia and l s U.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, I was just I was just making sure I
heard you right, But yeah, one hundred percent agree. I
think I think it's gonna be hard to keep any
SEC team that goes ten and two out. M hm,
Like I think, because you know, there's some of these
teams are gonna have to lose to each other where
there's not going to be everyone ten and two. The
only ten and two I would probably leaning out as Missouri. Yeah,
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ole Miss.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Maybe who's Ole Miss?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Second loss to Kentucky and uh yeah, I know will
Miss will have to be miss ole Miss will have
to beat Georgia to avoid going right. Yeah, well, I'm
saying if Ole Miss it goes ten to two, but
they have a win over Georgia, they're probably going out.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
And then it becomes interesting. It's almost like you don't
want to be in the SEC Championship.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
A lot of things, a lot of things that we
haven't seen before. I was just talking about with Brace,
but that we haven't seen before where we're gonna be like, oh, well,
you actually don't want to go or you know, there's
only never been a three loss team to go to
the playoffs, like we've never seen before. We've not been
the point too, so.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
There's no absolutely no data points. The one thing we
do know though is LSU in Texas A and M
feels like an elimination game, or at least it's being
builled that way. Uh, it's hard to say that. On
October twenty third in the SEC. You can say that
with Boise and UNLB in the group of five and
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in a way. But in this game A M two
and a half point favorite LSC has been playing fantastic
football of lately over under fifty three and a half.
Where does this game go and is the loser officially eliminated?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I I think if A and M loses, yeah, because
they're going to lose to Texas, it's a little like presumptive.
But I think if A and M loses over LSU,
if they lost this game and then beat Alabama, I
think would be fine. If if lsus ten and two
with wins against Ole Miss Obama, I think you're and yeah,
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I think you're probably fine. So I don't think it's
an elimination for LSU LSU.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I think in that scenario because you have to think
like or at least with A and M too, Like
you look at both of their losses. Both of them
are non conference, so they have only one SEC loss.
Potentially both of them like that one of those teams
I think will have a good shot to go to
the title game.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
LSU will. If LSU wins this week, they're going to
be in the SEC title game.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I think both of them are in the driver's seat
for sure. Like A and MS, I agree, it's a
tough game against Texas, but it's at home. Like who
goes to say what Texas is going to look like
after last week? How do they respond? I think both
of them have very doable schedules from here on out,
LSU for sure, especially getting them at home. That's obviously
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it'll come down to that. But I do think the
winner of this game is certainly in the driver's seat
to have one of the two tickets punched at the
SEC title game.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Honestly, LSU just seeds to split the next two. They're
not going to lose. I mean, maybe you know, I'll
give Brian Kelly credit. Brian Kelly doesn't usually lose the
stupid games you don't like. He doesn't really lose the
bad teams usually, so I don't think, yeah and season
he's the exact opposite of Marcus Freeman. But after these
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two games, you have Florida on the road, Vandy at home.
I know Vandy's good, but Vandy and Death Valley shouldn't
be a problem. And then you have Oklahoma at home
is the worst team in college football. So no, that's
not true, but I think it might be true. Though
they're in the COMMERCECEA LSU is really just a deadly offense,
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I don't I think they're gonna split these two games.
I don't know which one they lose. I think they're
in the playoffs or at least in the SEC title
game because they're gonnadnus Meyer. If there wasn't a johnt
In Hunter situation, I'd be pushing for neus Meyer as
a Heisman guy.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I think there's a few guys on the fringe. I
think nuss Meyer, Kate Klubnick's putting up some decent numbers,
Drew Allers putting up some decent numbers. I think if
those guys who are I believe anywhere from like fifteen
to three thousand in the Heisman Trophy odds, I think
you could make a Stroker case for those guys if
there wasn't a dominant running back, a dominant two way player,
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and cam Ward and the Dylan Gabriel like I feel
like in certain years, these guys putting up big numbers
for top ten teams or potentially talked about more. But
it doesn't feel like these guys have a shot unless
they have an incredible final six weeks, which we saw
with Aiden Daniels is very possible. At this time last year,
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how many people were saying Jayden Daniels was the stone
cold bock to win the Heisman. So there's Look, there's
precedent where a strong final six weeks can get you
there in the Heisman, but you have to be perfect.
So let's get into a handful of other games. We'll
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do kind of a rapid fire here on our way out.
Look kind of covered the majority of the big games,
and some of them will hit real quick. Here Penn
State are we are we afraid of them falling into
the night game at Madison.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
No.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I love that Wisconsin's put up some crooked numbers on
some terrible teams and some teams in disarray. So I
like Penn State. Penn State.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
I don't have the number. I'm sure the Bear has
tweeted it this week. He loves his number. But when
Penn State's like between minus three to like minus fourteen
or I forget what that cutoff point is. They're dominant
against the spread. James Franklin lives for minus six and
a half and covering it, and you know nobody will
be more invested in covering that spread, James Franklin. So
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I do think Penn State handles business there, and it's
I get it's a look ahead the next week, but
I'm I'm starting to talk myself into maybe maybe Penn
State running the table here.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
It's definitely possible. Look, it's it's definitely possible. Bef Texas Vanderbilt,
the game that we thought would not matter a damn
thing at this point. How does Texas rebound in Nashville
this weekend.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I'm gonna go with Vandy first half. I know the
full games eighteen and a half, so I assume it's
right there around plus nine and a half or something.
But I think that's one of those games last week
with Texas that it was kind of a kick in
the nuts for lack of a better term, And what
do we get from Texas coming out? It seems like
the quarterbacks situation could be in a little bit of disarray,
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and I think that they were right and high kind
of feeling like they were the king of college football
going into that game last week got served some humble pie.
How do they bounce back? Should be a juiced up
atmosphere down in Nashville at Vandy. It sounds funny to
say that, but it's not a team that's going to
play afreight or scared. I think they come out punching,
So I think Vandy to keep it close in the
first half. Give me them plus probably nine and a
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half I think would be the number.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
This game is probably like the twelfth to fifteenth best
game on the schedule, not even, but it really kind
of is a sad stated affairs of Florida State. Miami
means absolutely nothing to anybody this weekend.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Did you guys see the guy shirtless in the front
row calling plays off the waffle house man? Yestact my
friend on Twitter as a buddy of mine on Twitter, Cole.
He used to be a barstool caller and we go
back and forth on bats we have for years. He's
a psycho Florida State fan, and I'm so happy for
him that he went viral, because man, it must be
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so depressing to be a Florida State and you've got
fans not eating poop when they say they're going to,
and then you've got other fans faking eating poop to
try to get away with that guy not eating the poop.
Just a mess, Florida State, it's a mess. Norvell might
lose his job after going yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Team, It's is insane. But there are any other bets
either one of you want to hit us at with
on the way out.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Layom Old kind of like sorry, I was just I'll
be quick, yeah, Laym with ole Miss. Oklahoma has been
outscored sixty nine to twelve the last two weeks against
South Carolina and Texas. Uh ole Miss had a week off.
Jackson Dark's third passing this year. So while it's been
a disappointing the year for them, Dart's still cooking. So
I just don't think OKLAHOLM is missing the top five receivers.
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Their quarterback situation is horrible. I don't think they're going to.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Be able to score with all Miss at all in
that Miami Florida say game. I like Miami team total
over thirty eight and a half thirty nine and a
half two. They've scored that in five straight games.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I think it is.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, so Miami is just putting up points left and right.
Florida State has seemed to quit and I like BYU plus.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
One and a half.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
It could be the square play of the week. But
traveling to UCF, who knows what UCF team shows up.
They've looked really bad in spurts. They've looked pretty good
in spurts. But BYU is a team that has a
lot to play for and they can't afford to slip up.
I'm gonna go with how they've looked over the entire season.
I think they go down there to Florida and win
that game. It's one of the lines that jumped out
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to me, and it could be the square play of
the week. But I'm gonna go with b YU. They've
been a damn good team all year.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I'll throw it.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
I'll throw a square play, and I want to get
Joe's take on it, because he's the maction guy. Eastern
Michigan only a three point favorite against Akron.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
On the road.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
What's going on here? They're five and two, actors two
and five or one in six. I'm looking through the numbers.
I don't get it. I don't get it at all.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I'll be honest with you, maction doesn't start for like
another week.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah, I get you. I generally that way too. I haven't.
This is gonna be my first action. Bet I'm dipping
my toe in the maction Jagouzzi here with a little
Eastern Michigan little EMU action. So I'm hoping, I hoping
that the water is not too warm for me, but
staying in Michigan. Michigan State's gonna beat Michigan out right,
So I just wanted to It sucks that that line
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has jumped from like six and a half to three
and a half now, and that's where it probably should be.
I think Michigan State should be favored, to be honest,
Michigan's that bad at this point. We're talking about a
Michigan team that's maybe gonna win six games, to be honest.
So and then one last one is I just want
to throw this out there as kind of just a
general thing. We haven't mentioned them in a couple of
weeks because they've kind of been they were meant to
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start the year, Avery Johnson. Over the last couple of weeks,
Kansas State kind of back on shred a little bit,
and right in time for the Kansas game that my guy,
Rico Bosco bets Kansas State is like his game of
the year every year they own Kansas. Bill Snyder passed
down the game plan to beat Kansas down to Lance
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light Bulb or down to Chris Climban so Avery Johnson.
Over the last three weeks, fifty three for eighty three
seven or j eighty one pass yards, eight pass touchdowns,
two picks, three rushing touchdowns. I think Case State's going
to the playoffs. I think they're gonna win out or
at least up to that Iowa State game to close
the year.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
It will be fascinating to see how a bunch of
these games play out, especially the ones in the top
twenty five. A lot of potential playoff implications across the board.
From Mark Hemrick Junior and Ryan beef Coyle. I'm doo Tansey,
thank you for tuning in, good luck on your bets,
and we'll see you again next week.
Hello everyone, and welcome on into our college football Week
nine preview. Myself, Joe Tancy, Mark Henry Junior, Brian Beef
Coyle here to break down a massive Top twenty five
slate yet again, a lot of ranked matchups. Maybe not
the marquee matchups like we've had in the past few
weeks with Texas Georgia, but we have plenty of matchups
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that will shake up the top twenty five this weekend,
and a lot of it, honestly, guys, has something to
do with playoff odds as well, right, because when we
look at this list at Draftings Sportsbook of teams to
make the playoff, it really is an interesting mix of teams,
a lot of teams that can make statements this weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
No, I'm gonna jump in and just say that I
think this slate's being a bit overrated by the face
below me here on the screen. I hear Beef saying,
this is the best week of the year so far,
But this noon slate stinks. Kind of the three thirty slate.
It's got something Missouri. If Missouri was better, I think
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that this slate would be more interesting. I'm underwhelmed by
this slate.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I'll be honest, I think the like we talked about it,
where the marquee matchup of the week I guess is
LSU A and M, which doesn't scream, you know, like
it has in the past few weeks with Georgia, Bama, Oregon,
Ohio State, Texas Georgia. But I think the overall balance
from THURSDA starting Thursday night a great game with Syracuse
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Pitt Friday an elimination game pretty much between Boise and UNLV,
and then Saturday like five rank first ranked games. There's
a handful of other good games in there as well.
I just think the overall balance And I haven't looked
at next week's slate, but next week's like could just
be the same thing. I just think the roster or
excuse me, the conference in alignment has just made for
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so many more going intriguing matchups and also taking out
the divisions within the conference as well, it has made
for so many more intriguing matchups and games that matter more. So,
I just think the overall kind of balance from starting
Thursday night all the way through Saturday night with Colorado
Cincinnati just good game after good game.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'll push back a little bit. I can't get up
for Syracuse pit I'm sorry. I can get up. I
can get up for boys at UNLV. But like to me,
like and and maybe this is just my maction bias.
This is sticking in here. But I can't get the
October Tuesday Wednesday games c USA. I know you tried.
(02:54):
I know it's college football on my screen. It has
not been on my screen. There's just so many other
moving pieces in the sports world where I want to
I want to love it. I want to say computer
college football, let's go hang out on the couch. Let's
let's let's hang out for a few hours. I can't
do it on Tuesday and Wednesday outside of maction like
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it's it doesn't feel right. And the Thursday night game
because we have Thursday night football in the NFL. It's
just again, I want to love it. But to be honest,
I'll probably watch about five seconds of Syracuse and Pittsburgh.
I don't think I've bet a Thursday night college football
game all year. It's kind of just I want to
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love it. I wanted to, I want to be friends
with it, but I just I can't really get into
college football until until Friday.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I think I'll watch more on of Syracuse Pitt and
I think I will Vikings Rams. I don't know why.
I it's probably doesn't even have money involved with it.
Like I just think it's gonna be a fun game
that could be like thirty eight thirty five. And we've
had so many nights Thursday night football snooze fest in
the NFL this year. But you know, to each the
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basketball starts to Mondays. I'm excited at the.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Play tonight, by the way.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So let's get into a lot of these games starting
with the Friday.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
That will make no sense on audio. Me me just going.
If anyone's listening, I stuck my hands in my hands.
I can't be I can't be thinking college basketball yet.
I saw s Beef talking about Ryan Kulkbrenner on my timeline.
I feel like that guy has been in my life
for a decade. I can't do it yet. I can't
do it.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So let's get into the these games here, because we're
gonna mix them in with our playoff odds, because I
think it's a conversation to have about the playoff odds.
But also there's so many games that these teams. I
guess from minus one fifty and below are in this
week that it just feels right to dive right into
these games and talk about, you know, the playoff prospects
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of these teams. And the first thing we have is
Boise State at UNLV. This is Boise State's toughest game
left on the schedule. Now they could face each other
again in the Mountain West title game, also very possible.
Boise State enters this week even money plus one hundred
to make the college football playoff, which I'm surprised isn't
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as or maybe a little bit lower. And then when
you go through the group of five teams, one of
those teams has to get in. Liberty and UNLV are
both plus seven hundred, and then you have to go
down a little bit to Army at plus twelve hundred
and Navy at plus fifteen hundred, and the raging Cajuns
of Louisiana Lafayette are at plus fifteen hundred as well.
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So when you're looking to bet this game with Boise
State and UNLV, if you like UNLV, is it better
to bet them to make the playoff or is that
too much of a risk. But also keep in mind
Navy plays Notre Dame this weekend, So that's a game
that could potentially knock Navy further down the totem pole
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of how we rank the Coup of five teams.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, I think the big thing with that one is
you're most likely gonna have a rematch between Boise State
and UNLV and the Mountain West title game. So I
don't think the winner of this is necessarily in the
driver's seat of anything. And I also think the loser
of this I want to hear what you guys say
about this, but the loser of this game is eliminated,
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no matter if they go and win the Mountain West
title game or not, because that would be a two
loss G five team. Obviously, stuff has to play out
with Army and Navy with Notre Dame and then potentially
playing themselves in the American Title Game as well or
playing a Memphis maybe in the American Title Game. But
I do think the loser of this one is eliminated.
I've always been over the past kind of year and
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a half. Now I've I kind of blind pat UNLV
and I like them plus three and a half at
home in this one, you look at their strength on
the defensive side. Eighteenth best rush defense in the country. Obviously,
they're they're facing a different beast this week. But if
it's any unit in the Mountain West that could potentially
slow down John t and saying that is like holding
him under one hundred fifty yards, it might be UNLV.
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They might have the formula, and if it does get
into a shootout, I think they got the offense to
do it. So you're gonna give me the three and
a half, I'll certainly take that, but I think that
they can win this game for sure. This is kind
of UNLV Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I don't think it's an elimination game though, because you
look at Boise State's loss, it's to Oregon. So if
if Boise State gets, you know, splits essentially with UNLV,
And look at the rest of these contenders. Right across
the G five Liberty is playing. We're recording this on
Wednesday night. Liberty is playing right now, but they haven't
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played any inspired football at all. And and look as
much as if you don't want to admit it, as
the committee doesn't want to admit it, they saw what
happened when Liberty got in this G five team last year, right,
so that is going to be in their minds when
they when they talk about liberty. If you have Army
and Navy. Now, I think the tougher parts of their
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schedules are in the second half of the season. They
both play Notre Dame and the AAC is starting to
look like it has a few contenders with Memphis, who
just beat North Texas this past weekend, and then the
Sun Belt. James Madison going down to Georgia Southern is
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a big result as well. If you look at the
other receiving votes in the a people the top twenty five,
there aren't many G five teams. I think UNLV is
there and that's it. So I really think, at least
at this point in time, you can't rule out Boise
because if Oregon continues to play the way they do,
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the committee is going to look at that game and
look at that score and say, oh wow, Boise state
the caliber of their team, look at what they did
against a caliber of Oregon who could potentially finish the
season at number one. So if if you're looking at
it from that perspective, and they lose to UNLV on
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Friday night, the committee may only approach this as well. Really,
they're just a one loss team. I think that's a
realistic scenario. Now they have to go in and beat
UNLV in the Mountain West title game for any of
this to come to fruition. But yeah, but I don't
think I don't think Bois. I think UNLV is done
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if they lose, but I don't think Boise's done. Because
of the competitiveness of that game against the work I.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Don't think Boys's gonna lose the game. I like Boise
in the game minus three, and I think UNLV has
had like historic turnover. Look. If you look at their defense,
they've had thirteen interceptions, a bunch of forced fumbles, and yeah,
absolutely that there's a skill to that, and there's a
talent to that, and obviously some defenses take away more
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than others. I think you could also look at it
and say they've won a couple close games that have
been swung by turnoverlook, whereas Boise, you can't really say
that because they kind of just been taking care of
business against everyone they play besides that organ game obviously.
But like UNLV only wins by possession against the Oregon State,
they lose by three against against the Syracuse team that
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hasn't looked quite as good since that game, I feel like,
and then you they're obviously a close win against Kansas
that looked great earlier in the year. At Kansas team
is terrible, so I don't I'm just not as impressed
with the UNLV resume. And then I mean, obviously, the
square the square angle of it is just I keep expecting,
and I said this like a couple of weeks ago,
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I keep expecting Ashton Johns to have the seventy five
yard game or like the ninety yard one touchdown game
where it's like, all right, but it just doesn't happen.
He's that good, He's he's Michael Myers back in the
backfield as he dressed up for before that game. The
stance in the backfield, by the way, all the memes
about it are some of the funniest of all time
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on college football Twitter, with how weird he stands in
the backfield. If anyone doesn't know, there's people doing like
Sabrina Carpenter and Michael Myers memes with the way Ashon
Johns stands in the backfield. But he really is a
he's a killer back there. I mean, I've never seen
I can't remember the last running back who has just
jumped off the screen week after week after week. It's
probably like Adrian Peterson, and even he didn't put up
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these numbers really, so maybe Zeke, like I'm trying to
think of, like, who were these like great, great great
running backs.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I know, Ricky Williams is probably before both of your.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Times, before my time. Yeah, maybe Todd Gurley was really good.
I'd have to look at his status. I have to
take a look.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Popped up, like if we're talking about like generational like
pop off. I Ricky Williams definitely thought. You know, he's
in that category every I mean every time he played
for Texas, it was it was absolutely must see. Reggie
Bush isn't that category as well obviously after but right, yeah,
Peterson is absolutely I mean he was a menace at Oklahoma.
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I'm trying to think of a few the Arkansas running backs. Yeah,
I mean, look, Peyton Hillis had to run there with
that with that Arkhall Arkansas offense, right, I mean you
had you had Felix Jones and Darren McFadden and Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Darren mc Sarry mcaden is pretty good now that I'm
looking at, right, he was very good.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
You shown Alexander, but I think that was a little more.
He was a little more NFL. I don't think we
I don't think we understood how good the Danian Tomlinson
was until he got to the NFL. Another but another
stud But yeah, you're right. It takes a special type
of of running back to really just be that that
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must see television.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Named Harrick Henry.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, I was a weird Heisman that year. If I
if I don't remember, let me take a look at that.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But you have these.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Preview has turned into a blast from the past.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
He had a twenty Yeah, so his thing was he
was a one year guy. I guess John t. Kaina
is too.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I mean Mark Ingram had a great season too.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, Henry had had twenty two hundred yards. A little
impacted by him playing fifteen games, and it's also a
little impacted by him playing probably behind like five NFL
offensive linemen in Alabama, And that's part of what crazy
about this.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
But remember back in there was a good stretch of
of Nick Saban's are at Alabama where there weren't good quarterbacks. No,
it was like the Brody Kroyles of the world that
were starting that we're starting a quarterback and and winning
these games.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
A J.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
McCarron. These they weren't superstars. They were game man it
best and and the talent they had around them was
so good. So yeah, I mean that's that's kind of
what made the Henry's and the Ingrams of the world.
They were just it kind of had to in certain games.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
But I think Greg mcd no.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, absolutely, John Parker Wilson, you know, we can start naming.
We can start naming.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
But yeah, look, I think the simply put the best
player on the field is Ashton genty and until somebody
stops him, Uh, why bet against him? I like the
line I look at three now the total itself though
at sixty four? How do we look at at it there?
Because UNLV has played in a bunch of high scoring games.
But if Boise stated is dictating the tempo, I guess
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it all depends on how quickly Genti breaks loose.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, I think this game has the potential to be
the if you're at the bar, you look to the
bartender for your next beer, and you look back and
there's another touchdown scored. Like I could see this being
three four play drives kind of going back and forth
with some crazy kind of Friday night lights type magic.
The offense. I think it's definitely looked better with Malik
Williams back there rather than Sluka. I think that they've
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been more explosive, and he definitely adds a little bit
more of more explosion with his rushing ability to that offense.
But I kind of go back to why I like
UNLV potentially a little. They've shown the ability to stop
the run this year. Maybe that's because people have thrown
the ball a lot on them. That Syracuse game sticks
out to me where it seemed like McCory just could
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do whatever he wanted in that game. So we'll see
kind of what Boise State goes with, obviously with a
heavy rushing attack, but I think it's going to be
a fun one and one of the games of the
weekend that probably won't get as much attention because it's
so late on a Friday night.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Matt since twenty sixth then QBR by the way, so
it'll be interesting. Like with Johnty, it's it's is he
just run deepproof like he doesn't?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
That's what I'm going with.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
That does it matter who he's going against, and then
if he's passing, offense can get going. It's a bad
pass defense, and then Ashton does his thing. That's why
online Boise. I know it's pretty square though.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, but you know the square can be good sometimes.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
But ask nfelt better the past two weeks public speak killing.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Let's hop into the Saturday sight now and kind of
continue this conversation about the group of five. So you
have Navy and look that to make the playoff odds.
We've talked so much about Army and Navy and how
awesome it might be to see both of those teams
compete for the playoff. Well, the oddspeakers have a little
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bit of a different theory on this. They have Army
at plus twelve hundred. They have Navy at plus fifteen hundred.
I forgot to mention earlier. Memphis is plus eight hundred.
They're the AAC team with the lowest odds to get
into the playoff. And now you have Navy coming in
to this game against Notre Dame at MetLife. Notre Dame's
got all the momentum in the world. They still have
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that Northern Illinois loss on the resume. That's not going
to go anywhere, and if they end up losing another game,
it's really gonna hurt them. They literally have no margin
for error at this point. But you have the age
old question, can a team in the modern day of
college football properly deal with the triple option on a
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on a one week preparation Because Notre Dame has been
probably any regular twenty twenty four offenses now throw the
wrench of the triple option, and a very good one
at that with Navy. Navy have a thirteen point underdog.
How do you guys see this game playing out?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
It would scare me more if Navy was two and four.
I'll just be honest. I just think I think them
being ranked and everyone hyping up like, oh, can Notre
Dame be Service academies? Like I actually think Marcus Freeman
will stupid, which makes the Northern Illinoy game that much
more annoying. How good they've been since and how good
I think they'll be against the Service academies. I think
Army is better than Navy, so I actually think it's
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unfortunate for Army that they're the second triple option team
that Notre Dame will see. Like I think if you
told me this game was Army and then the second
game was Navy, I'd probably be a bit more scared
of this game and of a of a loss here.
I think Bryce Daily just makes can make more happen
outside of schedule with the triple option. I mean I
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was looking at it. Does he have like like six
or seven hundred passing yards maybe a little bit more
than that Army for Army, that's a lot. That's like,
that's like one hundred of game or a hundred plus
a game for Army.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So no, I think you said sixty seven hundred. No, yeah,
that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
For a lot, I'd be a lot for anybody. But yeah,
I think they Army would scare me a bit more.
But I think it plays out nicely for Notre Dame
that I think they're getting the easier test first and
then we'll play a second triple option team down the line.
I actually think, and you guys know, I have not
been positive on their name this year. I don't think
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they should be in the playoffs still, but I don't
I'm not as worried as I think the consensus is.
And I guess I kind of agree with Vegas. Where
are they at right now on that spread, it's like
thirteen right now.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Thirteen.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, it wasn't seventeen. The look ahead was seventeen last week.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Do you touch the total of fifty one.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I just gave one pretty close there, thirty seventeen. That's
pretty close to that line. Yeah, I mean I would
lean under. I would lean under. The other thing. I'll say,
Benjamin Morrison is Notre Dame's best player. He's out for
the year corner. He'll probably be a top ten, top
fifteen pick next year. I don't think Army and Navy,
especially Navy are going to be able to care of
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what that opens up with Notre Dame's defense. So I
think Notre Dames this is again kind of lucky for
them how it played out.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Schedule was Yeah. My take just I don't really have
a total take on the game, but big picture wise,
I think it's funny to look back after the Northern
Illinois loss and be like, all right, we have Notre
Dame has no real exciting wins potentially on their schedule
ahead USC maybe at the end of the year. That
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was already a couple of weeks in Florida State already
looked at and then you chalked up Army. Navy has
some easy wins. Now it's like these look have the
potential to be resume boosting wins, Like maybe you're beating
two eleven and one teams under schedule by the end
of the year. I think it's kind of funny how
it came around, But I'm definitely in the camp that
if Notre Dame wins out, they'll be in, especially with
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teams like we'll miss the way that they haven't delivered.
Alabama most likely going for three losses. If Notre Dame's
sitting there at eleven and one on selection Sunday, I
think they'll be in. But it's it's not going to
be easy to get past these two teams. But I
think you said best mark. As long as they get
past Navy, I think they'll be much better equipped down
the line to beat Army, just because of the kind
of familiarity with the offenses.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah, the best thing that's happened to Notre Dame is
what we were talking about earlier with Texas A and M.
Like Texas A and M being undefeated. Since that game,
winning a couple of tough ones, I haven't really had
the more key Marquee win since that game, but them
chugging along and being undefeated in the SEC, it's gonna
be big for that. I mean, at this point, I
think the worst A and M will do is eight
and four and will probably be nine to three, ten
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to two, so that win looks better and better. So
I mean, if you're eleven and one with a win
like that on the road in the SEC, you get
in and people will ignore the.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Fact that you had one of the more embarrassing losses
in the history of sports.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think it might affect seeding, but they'll get in
if they win. They'll get in if they went out,
for sure. Let's keep the ball rolling here. Indiana has
game day come into Bloomington. Look this is.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, yeah, Scar, Yeah, I'm scared of the backup quarterback.
I'm just scared.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
This is exactly what I was gonna try and lead
into here. Curtis work isn't playing game days coming to town.
Washington is a steady, organized defense. Is this the letdown
spot for the Indiana Hoosiers.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
My worry is, like I can kind of close my
eyes and picture conversation where Indiana is nine and three
at the end of the year where like they lose
these next two weeks with a backup, they lose to
Ohio State, and then they win their other games and
we're like, man, but work wasn't there in those two games,
Like can we get them?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Man?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I can already kind of close my eyes and see
that that conversation which we've seen before, where it's like,
well that loss was with a backup, so should it count?
And you kind of do that and roll. And that
was different with four teams. Now with twelve, I think
you're even you'll see a little bit more of that,
potentially more of that kind of explanation for seeding and
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teams getting in. So, yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I don't think so. There's just kind of something about
this team, And I think the supreme confidence at the
top with SIGs and the way that he not only
talks to the media, but like I could only imagine
what his like pregame speeches are or practice. He just
seems so utterly confident that it bleeds through to that
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entire team and he's gotten that entire campus, that entire
student body, everyone to buy in another national televised game.
You know everyone's going to be watching Indiana Hoosiers football.
It sounds funny to say that, but this is a
team that it just has kind of something special about them.
And Jackson adds a rushing element. And we saw the
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rushing element and what it was able to do with
the JMU offense last year. Are they able to tap
into a little bit more because we know Rourke's not
much of a runner, much more of a pocket guys, Jackson.
Does he add another element to this offense? I think
is something gonna be interesting to see. I really like
Indiana at home in this one to cover. I like
it to get some points too. Indiana. It was surprised
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to see number one scoring offense in the country forty
eight point seven points per game. I think this one
could go over to fifty three and a half number
as well.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Do you know the fight song, Beef?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I heard it a couple of times last week.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Learn it for next week. We'll sing it. We'll sing
it together. If they covered, I am going to bet it,
just out of respect. They've been so good to me
all year long. I'm gonna bet the six and a half.
I'm nervous. The thing I'm most nervous about is I
think this Rourke kid might be an NFL guy like
these back shoulder throws. He's so polished in the pocket.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Like his brother's a CFL legend.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
My concern is that this is almost like a Michael
Pennox situation for Indiana, which is funny to say since
Michaels was literally at Indiana, But I'm saying Michael Pennix
with Washington, where I think he's single handedly and obviously
the boor and the receivers and there were a lot
of people who are a big part of that. But
that Washington run and then being a literal national title contender,
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making the national championship doesn't happen if they don't have
a guy like Pennix playing like one of the best
quarterbacks in the country. I'm a little bit nervous that
we're in the kind of same situation here with Indiana,
and maybe we're not talking enough about how good Rourke
has been and how big of a part of it
he's been. I think we've been so transfixed on SIGs
and obviously for obvious reasons, he's he's off Google. He's awesome.
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Google him. But the IM I do think there's almost
Rourke went under the radar a little bit before this injury.
Just how good he was.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, I think with to me, it's more situational, right,
is like, how does a team that has catapulted themselves
into the college football playoff picture, how did they handle
college game day? How they handle all this attention? And
on the flip side of the coin, if you're Washington, look,
everybody's been talking up Indiana for the last month now, right,
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Washington just got destroyed at Iowa two weeks ago, forty
to sixteen. They have forty points to Iowaha. Guys, nobody
does that, and that was right after beating Michigan at home.
The only concern I have is Washington's defense maybe over
corrects itself. But if you look at what they've done
on the road, the loss to Iowa stands out, and
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then the big fluky game against Rutgers is the other
road loss, but it still counts as a loss and
they only put up eighteen points, So it is a
little bit concerning. I think it was maybe a different opponent,
I'd be a little more concerned about Indiana. But in
terms of like the emotional spot backup quarterback college game day,
everything's going right for you. I mean This would be
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the spot to fade Indiana if you had the bass
to do it.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I do not. Did Beef stay beef? Did you say
you liked the over in this game?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah? I think I think Indiana could certainly put up
thirty five themselves, and I could see Washington getting three
touchdowns potentially as well. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, I mean Indiana six and one to the over
this year and Washington is their first five games went
under the last two have went over. You look at
Will Rogers. Will Rogers kind of slinging it a little bit,
throwing for two hundred and sixty yards per game. He's
got eighteen hundred twenty yards, thirteen touchdowns, two picks, seventy
two percent completion percentage. Like he's kind of back on
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his Mike Leech harrd bs there a little bit. So
Will Rogers a guy I really liked it. He first
kind of hit the scene in Mississippi State, flamed out
a little bit there for a while after Leach passed away,
to be honest, and he seems to have found it
a little bit with Fish there in Washington. So Washington's
got problems for sure, Like like as he mentioned, with
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the defense, you can't give up forty to Iowa, which
is kind of I'm talking to myself into that over.
I like that. I like that number, beef. I think
I'm gonna add that.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Let's let's get on into the SEC. Missouri and Alabama,
this game has a little less juice to it now.
It feels like it's going to be an Alabama cruise
rebound spot. Brady Cook, the quarterback from Missouri who heroically
came back from a lower body injury to beat Auburn,
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is now doubtful. I believe there's issues with the running
back as well. And the backup quarterback at Missouri is
Drew Pine. Notre Dame, Arizona State legend. I think he's
been about five different places. I think I texted you
guys on Saturday afternoon, like Drew Pine still exists, still
has a home in college football. He did not look good.
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There's a reason why Brady Cook came back from the
hospital to try and win that game in salvage Missouri season.
Because Drew Pine could not get that offense to move whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Terrible.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, and if you're a Missouri fan, you have to
be absolutely terrified. The line is now sixteen and a
half in favor of Alabama. You have to be absolutely
terrified if Brady Cook can't go, because it just feels
like to me that they really have no hope if
Cook is down for good.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Well, I have a I have boots on the ground.
I'm in Missouri as we speak right now, broadcasting from Nixa, Missouri.
But I overheard someone at a brewery.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I love this. I love this.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I overheard someone, you know, I really think we can
beat Alabama. That Vanderbilt teams not that good. They beat Alabama,
so they're they're buying in.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
That reminds me of when I was in when New Orleans.
Some lady saw our Eagles jersey and she just came
up and goes, I love Jalen. He's so Nats. I
love him.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
This is a wacky man this.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
So the question is how high do you play Alabama.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I'm not touching anything regarding Alabama. I have their season
win total over nine and a half, so I'm kind
of just crossing my fingers on that. For the rest
of you. I also have missoo over nine and a half,
so really no point, no point embedting this one for me.
But I just don't think you can trust Alabama what
kind of product shows up on the field. I think
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we thought that game against South Carolina a couple of
weeks ago was the get right spot, the chance to
write the ship, and we kind of saw the same
issues flare up in that game that we saw against Vanderbilt,
and we saw the same things last week. And Milrow
I think has actually regressed since that Georgia game. So
I'm not touching anything regarding Alabama. I think this one
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is more so just a stay away, a lot of unknowns,
especially with what Missouri could click on offense the.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
D I mean, Bama is gonna win this game. I
think I'm not gonna touch it, but they are gonna
win the game. They're only tough game remaining is at LSU. Yeah,
and they have and they have a bye before it,
so that it's and especially I don't know who else
if LSU plays anyone between that, I'm gonna take it.
Look now, but if LSU wins this week, now they're
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on a buy as well. LSU Bama on November ninth,
and Death Valley could be an all timer like that,
because that's probably an elimination game in some ways. I
don't LS you could probably get in with two losses
with a win against an M now, but that game
would be so huge on both sides, And that's kind
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of a game that you can point to and be like,
you don't have that game without the fourteen player or
without the twelve team playoff, that game does not matter.
With the fourteen playoff, Bama would be out right now
unless they somehow wiggled their way into the SEC championship.
But I've been kind of lower on Bama than anybody.
I feel like I bet against them in every big
game they've been in, but and it's been mixed results. Obviously,
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I will say I think they're in the playoffs, like
if it comes down to that LSU game, but I
think if they win that game, they're in and all
of our like belly aching was kind of everyone freaking
out about Bama was it's not it's gonna be for
naught if they beat l s U.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So you're saying, if Bama goes ten and two, they're in.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Definitely with against Georgia and l s U.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, I was just I was just making sure I
heard you right, But yeah, one hundred percent agree. I
think I think it's gonna be hard to keep any
SEC team that goes ten and two out. M hm,
Like I think, because you know, there's some of these
teams are gonna have to lose to each other where
there's not going to be everyone ten and two. The
only ten and two I would probably leaning out as Missouri. Yeah,
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ole Miss.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Maybe who's Ole Miss?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Second loss to Kentucky and uh yeah, I know will
Miss will have to be miss ole Miss will have
to beat Georgia to avoid going right. Yeah, well, I'm
saying if Ole Miss it goes ten to two, but
they have a win over Georgia, they're probably going out.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
And then it becomes interesting. It's almost like you don't
want to be in the SEC Championship.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
A lot of things, a lot of things that we
haven't seen before. I was just talking about with Brace,
but that we haven't seen before where we're gonna be like, oh, well,
you actually don't want to go or you know, there's
only never been a three loss team to go to
the playoffs, like we've never seen before. We've not been
the point too, so.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
There's no absolutely no data points. The one thing we
do know though is LSU in Texas A and M
feels like an elimination game, or at least it's being
builled that way. Uh, it's hard to say that. On
October twenty third in the SEC. You can say that
with Boise and UNLB in the group of five and
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in a way. But in this game A M two
and a half point favorite LSC has been playing fantastic
football of lately over under fifty three and a half.
Where does this game go and is the loser officially eliminated?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I I think if A and M loses, yeah, because
they're going to lose to Texas, it's a little like presumptive.
But I think if A and M loses over LSU,
if they lost this game and then beat Alabama, I
think would be fine. If if lsus ten and two
with wins against Ole Miss Obama, I think you're and yeah,
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I think you're probably fine. So I don't think it's
an elimination for LSU LSU.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I think in that scenario because you have to think
like or at least with A and M too, Like
you look at both of their losses. Both of them
are non conference, so they have only one SEC loss.
Potentially both of them like that one of those teams
I think will have a good shot to go to
the title game.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
LSU will. If LSU wins this week, they're going to
be in the SEC title game.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I think both of them are in the driver's seat
for sure. Like A and MS, I agree, it's a
tough game against Texas, but it's at home. Like who
goes to say what Texas is going to look like
after last week? How do they respond? I think both
of them have very doable schedules from here on out,
LSU for sure, especially getting them at home. That's obviously
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it'll come down to that. But I do think the
winner of this game is certainly in the driver's seat
to have one of the two tickets punched at the
SEC title game.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Honestly, LSU just seeds to split the next two. They're
not going to lose. I mean, maybe you know, I'll
give Brian Kelly credit. Brian Kelly doesn't usually lose the
stupid games you don't like. He doesn't really lose the
bad teams usually, so I don't think, yeah and season
he's the exact opposite of Marcus Freeman. But after these
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two games, you have Florida on the road, Vandy at home.
I know Vandy's good, but Vandy and Death Valley shouldn't
be a problem. And then you have Oklahoma at home
is the worst team in college football. So no, that's
not true, but I think it might be true. Though
they're in the COMMERCECEA LSU is really just a deadly offense,
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I don't I think they're gonna split these two games.
I don't know which one they lose. I think they're
in the playoffs or at least in the SEC title
game because they're gonnadnus Meyer. If there wasn't a johnt
In Hunter situation, I'd be pushing for neus Meyer as
a Heisman guy.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I think there's a few guys on the fringe. I
think nuss Meyer, Kate Klubnick's putting up some decent numbers,
Drew Allers putting up some decent numbers. I think if
those guys who are I believe anywhere from like fifteen
to three thousand in the Heisman Trophy odds, I think
you could make a Stroker case for those guys if
there wasn't a dominant running back, a dominant two way player,
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and cam Ward and the Dylan Gabriel like I feel
like in certain years, these guys putting up big numbers
for top ten teams or potentially talked about more. But
it doesn't feel like these guys have a shot unless
they have an incredible final six weeks, which we saw
with Aiden Daniels is very possible. At this time last year,
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how many people were saying Jayden Daniels was the stone
cold bock to win the Heisman. So there's Look, there's
precedent where a strong final six weeks can get you
there in the Heisman, but you have to be perfect.
So let's get into a handful of other games. We'll
(37:31):
do kind of a rapid fire here on our way out.
Look kind of covered the majority of the big games,
and some of them will hit real quick. Here Penn
State are we are we afraid of them falling into
the night game at Madison.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
No.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I love that Wisconsin's put up some crooked numbers on
some terrible teams and some teams in disarray. So I
like Penn State. Penn State.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
I don't have the number. I'm sure the Bear has
tweeted it this week. He loves his number. But when
Penn State's like between minus three to like minus fourteen
or I forget what that cutoff point is. They're dominant
against the spread. James Franklin lives for minus six and
a half and covering it, and you know nobody will
be more invested in covering that spread, James Franklin. So
(38:24):
I do think Penn State handles business there, and it's
I get it's a look ahead the next week, but
I'm I'm starting to talk myself into maybe maybe Penn
State running the table here.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
It's definitely possible. Look, it's it's definitely possible. Bef Texas Vanderbilt,
the game that we thought would not matter a damn
thing at this point. How does Texas rebound in Nashville
this weekend.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I'm gonna go with Vandy first half. I know the
full games eighteen and a half, so I assume it's
right there around plus nine and a half or something.
But I think that's one of those games last week
with Texas that it was kind of a kick in
the nuts for lack of a better term, And what
do we get from Texas coming out? It seems like
the quarterbacks situation could be in a little bit of disarray,
(39:12):
and I think that they were right and high kind
of feeling like they were the king of college football
going into that game last week got served some humble pie.
How do they bounce back? Should be a juiced up
atmosphere down in Nashville at Vandy. It sounds funny to
say that, but it's not a team that's going to
play afreight or scared. I think they come out punching,
So I think Vandy to keep it close in the
first half. Give me them plus probably nine and a
(39:33):
half I think would be the number.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
This game is probably like the twelfth to fifteenth best
game on the schedule, not even, but it really kind
of is a sad stated affairs of Florida State. Miami
means absolutely nothing to anybody this weekend.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Did you guys see the guy shirtless in the front
row calling plays off the waffle house man? Yestact my
friend on Twitter as a buddy of mine on Twitter, Cole.
He used to be a barstool caller and we go
back and forth on bats we have for years. He's
a psycho Florida State fan, and I'm so happy for
him that he went viral, because man, it must be
(40:08):
so depressing to be a Florida State and you've got
fans not eating poop when they say they're going to,
and then you've got other fans faking eating poop to
try to get away with that guy not eating the poop.
Just a mess, Florida State, it's a mess. Norvell might
lose his job after going yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Team, It's is insane. But there are any other bets
either one of you want to hit us at with
on the way out.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Layom Old kind of like sorry, I was just I'll
be quick, yeah, Laym with ole Miss. Oklahoma has been
outscored sixty nine to twelve the last two weeks against
South Carolina and Texas. Uh ole Miss had a week off.
Jackson Dark's third passing this year. So while it's been
a disappointing the year for them, Dart's still cooking. So
I just don't think OKLAHOLM is missing the top five receivers.
(40:55):
Their quarterback situation is horrible. I don't think they're going to.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Be able to score with all Miss at all in
that Miami Florida say game. I like Miami team total
over thirty eight and a half thirty nine and a
half two. They've scored that in five straight games.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I think it is.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, so Miami is just putting up points left and right.
Florida State has seemed to quit and I like BYU plus.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
One and a half.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
It could be the square play of the week. But
traveling to UCF, who knows what UCF team shows up.
They've looked really bad in spurts. They've looked pretty good
in spurts. But BYU is a team that has a
lot to play for and they can't afford to slip up.
I'm gonna go with how they've looked over the entire season.
I think they go down there to Florida and win
that game. It's one of the lines that jumped out
(41:41):
to me, and it could be the square play of
the week. But I'm gonna go with b YU. They've
been a damn good team all year.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I'll throw it.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
I'll throw a square play, and I want to get
Joe's take on it, because he's the maction guy. Eastern
Michigan only a three point favorite against Akron.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
On the road.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
What's going on here? They're five and two, actors two
and five or one in six. I'm looking through the numbers.
I don't get it. I don't get it at all.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
I'll be honest with you, maction doesn't start for like
another week.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah, I get you. I generally that way too. I haven't.
This is gonna be my first action. Bet I'm dipping
my toe in the maction Jagouzzi here with a little
Eastern Michigan little EMU action. So I'm hoping, I hoping
that the water is not too warm for me, but
staying in Michigan. Michigan State's gonna beat Michigan out right,
So I just wanted to It sucks that that line
(42:30):
has jumped from like six and a half to three
and a half now, and that's where it probably should be.
I think Michigan State should be favored, to be honest,
Michigan's that bad at this point. We're talking about a
Michigan team that's maybe gonna win six games, to be honest.
So and then one last one is I just want
to throw this out there as kind of just a
general thing. We haven't mentioned them in a couple of
weeks because they've kind of been they were meant to
(42:53):
start the year, Avery Johnson. Over the last couple of weeks,
Kansas State kind of back on shred a little bit,
and right in time for the Kansas game that my guy,
Rico Bosco bets Kansas State is like his game of
the year every year they own Kansas. Bill Snyder passed
down the game plan to beat Kansas down to Lance
(43:14):
light Bulb or down to Chris Climban so Avery Johnson.
Over the last three weeks, fifty three for eighty three
seven or j eighty one pass yards, eight pass touchdowns,
two picks, three rushing touchdowns. I think Case State's going
to the playoffs. I think they're gonna win out or
at least up to that Iowa State game to close
the year.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
It will be fascinating to see how a bunch of
these games play out, especially the ones in the top
twenty five. A lot of potential playoff implications across the board.
From Mark Hemrick Junior and Ryan beef Coyle. I'm doo Tansey,
thank you for tuning in, good luck on your bets,
and we'll see you again next week.
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