College Football Preview: Week 12 -- 11/15/23

On this episode, Jon Jansen and Joe Tansey recap Week 11 and take a look at the action for Week 12!

Episode Transcript

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Every week can change the season,and the College Football Preview follows the action
every step of the way. JoinedJoe Tansie and John Jansen as they dive
into the wacky world of college football, the biggest games of the week,
and five bets on teams you've neverheard of. The College Football Preview starts
now on the Gambler. It isWeek twelve of the College Football Preview and

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we have coaches getting fired already.Coaches are about to be fired after this
week that we already know about.The Heisman race is heating up. The
college football playoff phrases heating up.It is the end of the year and
we are getting to the fun part. It's been always fun, but we're
getting to some really interesting stuff herein the college football season. You're listening
to the College Football Preview podcast PerfectPlace to Be. My name is John

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Jansen at Jay Jansen thirty four.Joe Tansey at Jay Tansey ninety who will
not be fired after the show.I can guarantee you he will not be
fired after the show. Chip Kellycan't say the same about after he takes
on USC Joe. The madness afun part of college football. It's here
two of those three things I agreewith you on. What's that? What

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do you agree with? What doyou agree with? The coaching carousel is
starting to be chaos, and theHeisman is fun. The playoff isn't.
The playoff is very simple. Boooooboom. I think you're right. Boom,
there's three. I know we don'thave a twelve team playoff this year,
but we essentially have like a sixto eight team playoff that's going to

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happen over the next few weeks.I mean we have Michigan, Ohio State,
Washington, Oregon, Georgia, Alabama. Bam, there you go.
I think the chaos comes in ifBama wins. I don't know if they
can because george is playing its bestfootball. Surprise, surprise, the best
team in the country, surprise,the two time reigning champion. That's exactly
how to approach the season. Thankyou. I just need to I need

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to appreciate. I don't think theCollege FOOTBA Playoff committee gets enough appreciation at
times, so I will appreciate themwhen they do something right. Yank the
Lord. We're not pretending for anotherweek that Ohio State's best team in the
country. Thank you that we canjust just end this charade of whatever that
was. And now Georgia, whohas looked like been like resume, looks

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like a number one team in thecountry. They are now at the rifle
top spot on the throne, andit feels so good. Right, But
at that point, Ohio State deservesto be number one, because Georgia really
didn't be anybody. Last two weeks, we've gotten to the point cut it
out. Who did Ohio State beat? Well, Look, we can do
revisionist history all we want, right, I want to do so much revisionist

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history because maybe Notre Dame isn't good. They're fine, They're good, right,
But the way the first two monthsof the season played out, it
was very clear that Ohio State hadBut I mean, what Georgia beaton Vanderbilt
resonates no, So I think thatthe committee's done the right thing. Ohio
State had the two best wins combinedtogether to start the playoff ranking, and

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now Georgia rightfully, so, they'vebeaten Miszoo, they've beaten All miss They're
probably gonna beat Tennessee, and we'regonna have no problem with them being number
one. I see people complaining aboutFlorida State and Washington. I think people
need to wise up and realize thatdoesn't matter. Yeah, I don't know
what to make really about that.It doesn't matter. I don't know.

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It means absolutely nothing because both ofthose teams can get into the playoff because
two or three is going to Iget that in the grand scheme of things,
it's not going to matter. Iguess always what why we question it
is just because we want to Wewant to get some sort of understanding of
the process. We want to getsome sort of understanding of why they're putting

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teams where they are. And itjust does feel weird to me. If
if Georgie is going to make thatleap over Ohio State, why didn't Washington
make that leap over Florida State?Because they haven't played good football in a
month, but they've beaten great teams. I mean, you can tell me
they haven't played great football, butthey've beaten a bunch of top twenty five
teams and they're on their way maybeagain. Now I think they could lose.
This could be the loss that comesup for Washington, but you know

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it will happen again where they playOregon State on the road, and if
they beat Oregon State, that's anothertop twenty five team. I mean they
the resume speaks for itself. Ithink they I think you're right, they
haven't been playing their best, Butyou know what the resume just I don't
know, it isn't adding up withthe resume compared to Florida State. Neither
Florida State or Washington is playing goodfootball right now. I was about to

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say, Florida State's not even playingthat well right like, I think it's
very clear, and maybe we're nottalking about this because we're we're fighting so
much, but who should be thefourth best team in the country. Yeah,
it's very clear that Georgia is inits tier, Michigan, who I
think will beat Ohio State. Georgiaand Michigan are in the tier by themselves.
And then it's it's Florida State inWashington and we're not even We're not

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even talking about probably the third bestteam in the country right now, and
that's the Oregon Ducks. I wasabout to say, I actually like maybe
Texas, I don't know. SometimesI feel like they're great and sometimes not.
But Florida State and Washington with theway they're playing, I actually think
at the moment, Oregon, Texas, and Alabama all might be better than

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those teams. If if I wereto rank power rank the top eight right
now, it would be one Georgia, two, Michigan three, Oregon,
four, Bama five Ohio, theState and then Florida State, Washington and
Texas can be interchangeable. Okay,but I think I genuinely think like I
think all this all this arguing isfor not because I think Oregon wins the

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Pac twelve. They're playing the bestcomplete football of any team in the Pac
twelve. But next I think thisis the week. At this point,
I think the week it happens withWashington m It's a tough for ro game.
It is game it is, andI think this is gonna be one

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of those games where we overthink itso much from a betting perspective with Oregon
State, but I think that's howthat's gonna go. But look, I
think the playoff is going to bethe Ohio State Michigan winner, which I
think is Michigan, Georgia, Oregon, and Florida State. I think it's
gonna be very cut and dry.Texas is gonna be odd team out and
honestly, you're you're talking about Washingtonlosing this week. Texas might lose this

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week. Oh Tames, okay,Ames has been a horror field for the
Longhorns. Yeah, but it's alsobeen a horror field for Iowa State.
So right, But but you're you'rejust trying to make jokes about But when
when is Oregon Station good either?Yeah? Uh, Oregon State's good this

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year? No, but one havethey been good like previously? No?
No, no, But I meanit's a little bit different because dj DJ's
look good and this defense is reallygood. I don't know. I like
Oregon State a lot. I thinkI like them. I'm going to bet
on them. They stylistically, Ithink they're so a little bit different than
the Pact because Pactwall is all about, you know, quarterbacks, offenses throwing

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the ball everywhere that I think theyplay a little bit differently and it helps
them at times, and I thinkit will help them against Washington because Washington's
problem right now is their their offensive. They can't play defense, and their
passing game is so it's not asefficient as it was earlier in the year,
and so they were so heavily relianton big plays, which they get

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because they have NFL wide receivers andMichael Pennix's is really good. But still
that is a that is one ortwo mistakes away from really losing one of
these games. And you know,a big play, a big play,
missed opportunity from Washington to lose oneof these games. So it's just they're
they're they're walking a very fine lineat the moment they happened. They've been
flirted with disaster for weeks now.And when you look at I know I

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played super late on Saturday. Ipersonally fell asleep at halftime of that game,
But if you look at the wayOregon's been playing, and they've been
doing it very quietly as well theirdefense. I mean, look at the
Washington game. Even I know thatwas thirty six to thirty three, but
there was a stretch in the secondhalf where Oregon completely shut down Michael Pennix.
Like we've seen from what Utah hasdone over the past few years,

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that a decent defense can win thePAC twelve because there isn't there isn't many
there aren't many good defenses out there, and I think Oregon is proving that
and I think we're sleeping on them. It's weird to say that about the
sixth NANC team in the country withthe Heisman Trophy favorite right now, but
it feels like we're sleeping on Oregon. Yeah, I kind of do.

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I mean, because of all theone loss teams, I think the one
that we're at least I'm most intriguedby is Alabama just absolutely full head of
steam now looking like they could couldthey I mean, could they end up
taking down Georgia. But I'm justI'm just using that as an example of
how I think highly we're thinking ofBama and Bama's kind of stealing the spotlight

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because now we're having thoughts of that, you know, and big things like
that. Yeah, so I thinkit's possible. I don't know if it'll
happen because Georgia is playing at itprobably an even higher level. Carson Carson
Beck, Carson Beck has is isthere and and Bauer's coming back seamlessly into
that offense was huge, And yeah, it always just felt like Georgia Georgia

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was gonna be great. It's justwhen could Carson Beck catch up, if
he ever could catch up. AndI don't know about if you have seen
that as well, but I feellike he's he's caught up to the rest
of the team and that's that's awell oiled machine. Again, that's good.
Last last week was very impressive.I watched the majority of that ole
Miss game and it was funny.I think I saw somebody tweet like,
Okay, Georgia spotted ole Miss andnow the the train's gonna run down the

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tracks. I like, immediately livebet Georgia. I think at like six
and a half, uh the secondOld Miss score because I've seen this movie
before, especially with Plane Kiffin.But look, I think, what's the
scenario that Alabama gets in because ifthey're if they're eight, they have to
beat they have to be Georgia.Right, That's that's assumed, But like,

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what's the what's the path here?Like realistically, because you're clearing out
one of Ohio State or Michigan,you're clearing out a pack twelve team.
So that leaves Big ten champion Packtwelve champion Florida State. Does it come
down to Alabama versus Georgia. Doesit come down to Alabama versus Georgia versus
Texas, Because honestly, I wouldtake Alabama over Texas in a heartbeat because

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if they beat the number one teamin the country in the biggest game of
the season outside of Ohissa Michigan,this is probably the second biggest game in
terms of importance Alabama is in overTexas with that. That's what I think,
because I know that this conversation hasbeen brought up before on the Daily

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Ticket with Seawan and I, andI think it was it might have been
be Brian Coyle that was saying,you know, they do take a look
at head to head wins, butthat win against Georgia is like that weighs
so heavy on a resume like that, like that is so that's such an
eye opening win. When if Alabamais able to be Georgia in the SEC
Championship game, that that to me, would would leap frog them over Texas.

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Texas doesn't have Texas is Alabama.You know, Texas, that's their
win, and I don't know ifthere's any win remaining for them to do
that. While Alabama has this primeopportunity to knock off what looks to be
the consensus number one team in thecountry. That would be so impressive,
not only in the way it lookson the schedule everything. It would be

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so impressive that I just don't knowhow that doesn't get them into the playoff.
A win over Georgia in December isfar more impressive than a winner Alabama
in September. Yeah, and thequicker people wrap their heads around that.
It's very easy to figure out,like if we get to that scenario,
which I don't think we will.I don't think Texas is winning the Big

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twelve. I think that it's theBig twelve. Something is gonna go awry.
If the Pac twelve is gonna beperfect, the Big twelve is gonna
have chaos, something somewhere is gonnahappen. But if we do get to
that point where it's Big ten,Pac twelve, Florida State, I think

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Bama's biggest competition is Georgia to getinto the playoffs. And that's where it
gets really fascinating because Georgia best teamall season. Do you excuse them for
one loss? Are they still oneof the four best teams in the country?
And does Alabama win over Georgia warrantthem to go from eight to four

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or seven to four, depending onyou know where they are before Conference Championship
Week. I think that's the that'sthe playoff KAO scenario that you want to
have in the back of your mind, is it if Alabama beats Georgia,
can Alabama go over Georgia in theplayoff ranking? I think that's the chaos
scenario. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think with I'll just put that

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scenario up because it'll be one lostGeorgia, one loss Alabama, maybe a
one loss of Oregon, which wouldbeat Washington, which would be one loss.
Michigan could be undefeated because one ofthose losses would come either a high
Steed or Michigan or undefeated whatever.But it looks like Florida State is going
to be undefeated, right we areheading to a collision course. I mean,

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are they guaranteed to be in I'mjust going to ask, yes,
yes, if they're undefeated, they'reguaranteed to be. Yes. Absolutely.
I just wanted to ask because again, we were getting into territory where Georgia
has one loss but it's to Alabama, and Alabama would have one loss and
beat a Texas, but Alabama's onewin would look really good, you know,
So you're getting into this like threeway tysonario of these one loss teams

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including possibly an Oregon team and aone loss Big Ten team, and so
you're getting into a lot of oneloss teams. The one lost Big Ten
team is not gonna matter. Okay, that's fine, that's fine. One
lost Big Ten team could not matter. That I could agree with that because
eight of them as well. Ithink you're right, and I'm I'm not

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saying it's wrong that Florida State wouldget in, it's just that it would
be. Is that even a conversationbecause Florida State's schedule is in at nearly
as daunting as just say what Alabamaswas or Oregon or Texas. Maybe I
don't know, Texas are but ateam for going undefeated, right, Okay,

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well, yes, that's that's whatI would think as well. Here
here's the here's the super chaos scenario. This will be the last one we
throw out. So you have theBig Ten champion, whether it be Ohio
State or Michigan. You know,pick team. I think it's a Michigan,
but whoever it is Big Ten championin Florida State are locked in.
Alabama beats Georgia, Oregon beats Washington. Do both SEC teams get in over

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Oregon? You know, it's gonnahappen, isn't it. You can take
the case is it's gonna happen,isn't it? In that If that's scenario
pops up, it's gonna happen.Because we've seen the PAC twelve is the
the the odd man out every timein this I mean, if it were
to be different, this would bethe year that a team finally, like

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the in the in the PAC twelve, gets that benefit of the doubt or
gets the you know, the thestamp of approval because of the strength of
schedule from the committee that they haven'tgotten before. But it's that's not gonna
happen. It would be something thathasn't happened before. And now we're expecting
the committee all of a sudden tojust go, oh, yeah, we're
gonna change it this year. Wethink it's different because in Georgia, Georgia

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is still the best team in thecountry. Yes they are. So if
if the SEC Championship game is saya twenty eight to twenty four type game,
it's very close until the end,and the last possession wins it,
Nolabama wins, then you can makea case, well, Georgia's only loss
is in the last possession to Alabama. Oregon already has a loss against the

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top five team, and then it'sgonna cancel it. That's gonna cancel out
if they beat Washington. That that'syour chaos scenario. I don't think Texas
has to say in this, Ireally don't. I feel like Alabama is
going to jump them at some point. If Alabama wins and if Texas and
if Georgia beats Bama, this isall moot and Texas doesn't get in and

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done to the Pack twelve champion.But I just I see that why we're
doing this. We have to braceourselves, I think for it because it's
it's gonna be that. I thinkthat's the reality people need to start bracing
for with the playoffs now that ifFlorida State's better than Washington, who cares
who's number four in the second weekof November. I think the real discussion

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is what the future holds is Texasis not getting in. Texas fans just
have to brace themselves for frustration andwhat and what like the Fiesta Bowl or
Cotton Bowl, whatever you're not gettingin and Pack twelve fans need to start
being a little a little wary ofthe Crimson tide. I think if you're
a PAC twelve fan, especially ofWashington Oregon, you're the biggest Georgia fan

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for the next three weeks. Iwould feel I would actually feel legitimately upset
for the PAC twelve because they haveprovided us the fun of college football this
year. Is that fair to say? Am? I We've had fun in
other area, but in a yearwhere Penn State, Ohio State and Penn
State Michigan was an absolute dud,the PAC twelve has given us. PAC

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twelve is getting us. To me, I think the best game of the
season Washington Oregon. That's very Andthey gave us Colorado fun earlier in the
year and we had USC was funat times, Oregon fun to bet on,
you know, Washington State earlier andthere was fun. But now we're
getting to the big boys, andyou know, Washington Oregon was to me

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the best game of the year,and I think it is. And it's
just every week it's it's it's justinteresting to watch these teams because week in
and week out, you can maybesay, oh, well, it's the
Pac twelve and they're cannibalizing each otherbecause they're not that good. I just
I think these teams are all actuallyreally good, to the point where UCLA
isn't the worst college football team.I don't think they're that bad. They're

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about to fire their coach because theyhad to go through the gauntlet of the
pack twelve. Arizona is good.Like this conference top to bottom has been
awesome. To me, it's beenit's been phenomenal, and I think it's
rewarded. But in this an areayou're laying out, which could be very
possible, they don't get rewarded witha playoff spot. And I don't know
how how much I can argue againstagainst that, just because of the love

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the SEC gets. And look,if it's Alabama getting over them, then
I can't I can't say that's bad. I can't say that's wrong because I
think Alabama is one of the bestteams in the country. Well, it
wouldn't be Alabama, it would beGeorgia. It be Georgia, right,
it'd be george Yeah, yeah,And Georgia I think is a better team
than Oregon. Georgia's at take no. So if you want the four teams

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in the playoff, that's what yougets. Get a better team than in
Florida State. That's where we wouldget Well, it's a shame they can't
get over Florida State. But FloridaState is undefeated. I probably have them
level honestly, right, I thinksee, I think Oregon beats Washington,
but you're right to the defeat.A part of that Trump's whatever or however
good we think Oregon is. Youstill have to reward a power conference team

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for going undefeated and winning their conference. Yes, sorry, I saw something
on Twitter that come out. Iget distracted by Twitter a lot, Joe,
did you notice that it happens ona daily ticket happens here. I
just can't. I gotta close it. I'm terminally online and I gotta get

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off. All right, So let'sgo, because we just laid out a
bunch of college football playoffs area.So if that isn't confusing enough, Welcome
to the Heisman Trophy race. I'ma Heisman voter, so I won't say
favorites things, but I will sayit's fascinating this race right now. It's
I think you can the three thingsyou kind of look for in a Heisman

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Trophy candidate is you're looking for thesignature wins you're looking for the stats,
and you're kind of looking for justthat that Heisman specific Heisman play Heisman moment.
I don't know if we have quarterbacksor players. I'm not even gonna
say quarterbacks because Marmon Harrison is init. That could all you at least

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categorize him as one or two ofthose things. But it's not the complete
total package like we've gotten previously.So it's kind of up in the air
right now. But is what interestsyou most about this Heisman race so far?
I don't care about any of that. Did you watch Jaydan Danielsvince Florida?
I did watch Jane Daniels. He'sthe best player in the country.
He's the best player in the country, but shitty win the Heisman Trophy.

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That's the exercise he's got to putup. He's got to put up a
lot, a lot of numbers againstTexas A and M. That the problem.
The problem going against Jayden Daniels ishe has to play He's playing in
Georgia State and Texas A and M, and he doesn't have an SEC championship
game, so he's at a matchupdisadvantage compared to bo Nicks. And Michael

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Pennix, who not only is thatit going to be a college football playoff
elimination game in the Pactal Championship gameif we get it, because Oregon State
is going to have a major sayin the next two weeks, that that
might be for the Heisman Trophy becauseMarvin Harrison Junior realistically only has one game
left to impress Heisman voters, andthat's the Michigan game. Because everyone knows

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what the result of the Big TenChampionship is going to be, whether it's
Ohio State or Michigan against Iowa.We know it's going to be an in
overwhelming victory, so nothing is goingto surprise you. So I think at
that point it comes down to whatdoes Marvin Harson Junior do against Michigan and
how does the PAC twelve race endup. Look, when I watched these

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guys play, Jaydon Daniels is themost exciting, most explosive, most dynamic,
you name it. I mean thatjust sitting back and watching that Florida
game, you just at the marvelat the athletic ability and everything he was
able to do for his team.And there's there's precedent for a three loss

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team to produce a highs and winnerthat that I think throwout. I was
about to throw out, how manydid nine have before? And we've seen
three of those in the two thousands, Tim Tebow, Robert Griffin, and
Lamar Jackson was the last one intwenty sixteen, all of whom have similar
skill sets to Jaden Datims. Right, they're getting it for similar reasons because

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they their stats are so overwhelmingly good, but they they also had that because
of the addition of the running game. For that is, if the highest
try is the most valuable player incollege football, Jade Daniels is the most
valuable player to his respective team.Yeah, because Oregon can still win games

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with their defense. Washington's been supporteda little bit by their running game,
but they've won certain games without MichaelPennix being phenomenal and Ohio State, like,
you can make a case that theirdefense has been their most important element
of the team all season because ofhow they've won close games. Now Marvin
Harrison has four touchdowns against Michigan.We're having a completely different conversation, But

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to this point, Marvin Harrison Junior'sdone it, did enough against Penn State
and he's putting up numbers against everybodyelse. We all know he's the best
wide receiver in the country. Butin terms of just I'm going by the
look. Jayden Daniels had the lookof a Heisman winner last week, and

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I know Bo Nicks had a greatagainst USC and that's why he's the Heihsman
favorite. And the Pac twelve Championshipis most likely going to decide that if
it's Washington, Oregon. But youcan't ignore Jayden Daniels. And I think
because there's an open endedness to theHeisman conversation this year. I mean,
look, it is he's gonna haveto put up ridiculous numbers against A and

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M to remind everybody that he's inthe conversation because his best performance can't come
a month out month removed from theHeisman voting. Yeah, and again,
I'm not going to say which wayI am leaning. I'm gonna keep this
just very open ended, but Ithink it is it is splitting into two
ways. It is just is itmost valuable player to his team and stats
and things like that, or isit this team's success and winning have to

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do with it as well, whichLSU doesn't LSU so that the small difference
from like a Jayden Daniels to LamarJackson. Lamar Jackson be the number two
team in the country that year atthe time in Florida's state. Now they
weren't the number two team in thecountry by the end of it, but
they had that signature win. Hehad a great game against Clemson, who
was really good that year, andthey barely lost that game. So like

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there were signature moments, signature games, and they won a lot of games.
Jane Daniels doesn't have necessarily that.He does have a great win against
Missouri, which is good, butit's not bo Nix's. Bon Nicks clearly
has the team's success side of it, and Jane Daniels clearly has the individual
stat number side of it. Andit's just which one do you do?
You kind of take most And againI'm not leaning any certain direction. I'm

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not going to spill that out here, but that's it's just the two train
of thoughts, and I guarantee youit's going to split Heisman voters pretty It's
going to split him almost down themiddle, I think, to be really
close. The counter to that is, yes, LSUS three losses, but
in those losses, Jade Daniels threehundred and four passing yards against Florida State,
four hundred and fourteen passing yards,four touchdowns, nine to nine mush

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yards and a touchdowns. That's fiveof total offense against the MISS and then
against Alabama has close to four hundredyards of total offense and the only reason
he doesn't play the remainder of thatgame is because he was in concussion protocol.
I mean, because they they actuallyESPN do. This is a pretty
good job of giving you the splitsagainst ranked teams. So let me get

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those up real quick. But yeah, you're right about Jade Daniels in terms
of this, like it's Jayden Danielsis not the reason why LSU lost those
three games. It's because they havea piss four defense. So if you
look at if you look at LSUas a whole, yeah, they're a
three loss team, but they mightbe a top ten team because of Jayden

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Daniels. Here the numbers against theAP top twenty five and this is the
USA ranked teams. These were allranked teams at the time, so they're
both the same thing. But Jaydenand Daniels in those games against top twenty
five teams, twelve hundred yards,sixty seven percent complete percentage, ten touchdowns,
two interceptions, four hundred and fiftysix yards on fifty six carries,

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which is eight point one yards percarry, and three touchdowns. It's pretty
good. Yeah, pretty good numbers. I know who I know who would
have my vote? If well,you can say are you you're You can
say already said aidant voter, andthen tell me, geez show. I

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mean, it's pretty clear who Ipick. I think it's pretty clear you're
picking. Yes, it's Jane Daniels. Nice. It's just how do you
think that is going to split thevote, because I think there's going to
be in case everything we just playedout there with with Jane Daniels, with
the stats against top twenty five teams, just the eye test, just how

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explosive of a player he is,and him being the the SEC's leading candidate
that matters. It's a lot ofregional voting that goes that goes along with
this. I can probably assure youthat voters that picked Jane Daniels from the
southern region of the United States haven'tseen all of Bonix's games, haven't seen
all of Michael Pennix's games, andif either of them or both of them

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struggling the pack top championship game orin the next two weeks before we get
to that juncture, it's it's gonnabe tough to justify a vote against Jayden
Daniels. So yeah, I thinkthat's it's gonna be open ended, and
I like that it's not gonna bea runaway type situation, and it will

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make for a fascinating build up tothe high That's what I look at it
as. I think it's going tobe a really fascinating build up to the
high point. Just all the differentkind of ways to think of what truly
is most important when handing out thattrophy. It's gonna be fascinating. All
right, let's move on to doyou want to go anything else for a
week eleven? I think pretty muchwhen we're talking about the playoff and obviously

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the Heisman Trophy, we went overmost things indirectly about Week eleven, but
anything in particular you want to mentiongame wise can really happened. Big picture,
I think Missouri is really good,so I that that win to me
carries so much weight for for teamslike Georgia that well, it got justified

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by them leaping Louisville in the playoffrankings. Yes it did, Yes,
it did. Like they're they're basicallyguaranteed to play in a New Year six
game, which is exactly where theyneed to be. Yeah, it's really
impressive and also maybe that that needsto be talked about more and as an
impressive win for Jane Daniels because Missourilooks like one of the one of the
what top three or four teams inthe SEC top three, top three,

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right right behind Georgia and BEMA.Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
And also it also shows if youget your head coaching higher right and you
recruit well, you can make amove up to the hierarchy pretty fast.
And that's what Missoo has done.Yeah, missou has done a great job
with that. All right, let'sgo over to week number twelve. Let's
go over some of the big gamesof the week, and just scrolling through,

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we have a decent pack twelve onebetween Arizona, Utah, Georgia Tennessee.
Georgia on the road taking on Tennessee. So another top twenty five matchup
for Georgia to bolster their resume,But I think one of the biggest ones
it's just that can Washington continue tostay undefeated in the Pac twelve. They'll
likely need to if they want tomake the College Football Playoff, and they

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have a really tough, tough game. They're underdogs here against Oregon State,
so let's talk about that one.Can Oregon State, Let's not pull off
the upset. Can Oregon State beatand end up end up covering that number
against Washington. So I think here'sthe way it's gonna go. If Washington
wins this game, Washington is gonnaride their offense in Michael Pennix and DJ

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Wing dj Oui under La is goingto put up some numbers for Oregon State
because we've seen that happen with multipleWashington games. But if Oregon State wins
this game, this is like twentyseven four type game and their defense runs
it. So I think if it'sone of those games, for me,

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I'm not betting it because it's sohard to get an angle on this and
the game being in Corvallis prime timeis so massive for Oregon State. But
if you're betting Oregon State, Iwould bet the under. If you're betting
Washington, I would bet the over. I feel like that's kind of how
that both teams game scripts usually go. Oregon State's gonna win their game with
defense, probably put up twenty fourtwenty seven points with DJU and then with

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Washington. We've seen that games theefficiency, the efficiency hasn't really been there.
They have to hit the big playagainst the Oregon State and if they
miss on the opportunities like that,yeah, Oregon State can win that one
twenty seven to twenty four or somethinglike that. I think that absolutely could
be on the table. So it'sgonna be hard to bet, obviously,

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because Washington's very good. Yeah,I heck, I'm looking at Oregon State
laying the two and a half andit's getting very interesting for me. That's
what That's exactly what this game isgonna do you. It's gonna make you
overthink where you think this line is. I just have a lot of I
just have a lot of bets.I prefer that a lot of the usually

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does when it's a when it's ateam that's not as highly ranked, when
the higher ranked team is on theroad and they're an underdog and nobody goes,
why are they an underdog that doesn'tseem right. They're a high ranked
team, so it always that it'salways a tricky one. But I think
for me, Oregon State definitely isa very good chance. All right,
let's get into some bedding. We'redoing this on Wednesday, so we have

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time for the Thursday and Friday games. Anything Thursday, Friday Pittsburgh Boston College
on a beautiful Thursday, and thenFriday to start the weekend. Kick the
weekend off utsa South Florida underrated AmericanAthletic Conference matchup. I know you probably
don't care. Underrated, very notso a very not appealing PAC twelve matchup

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anymore between Washington State and Colorado,and he plays on those games. First
of all, Boston College is anunderdog and they're the wrong team is favored
in that game. Nice and BostonCollege. Look, they took a whooping
from Virginia Tech last week at home, but now they're backup level pegging with
Pittsburgh. A Pittsburgh team that's hadsome weird quarterback change. It's you know,

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Jerkovic ended up reportedly going to tightend for a little bit. I
think Boston College knows who they are. They have a clear identity and they
can win a low scoring battle,and Thomas Castillanos has become one of my
favorite players to bet on. AllBoston College does is just line up and
let the let the quarterback run,and it's worked a lot. I think
pitt because I don't believe they canbecome all eligible. I think this is

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kind of just you know, waituntil the end of the season. BC's
got a little bit more to playfor. I'll take BC and then look,
don't hate on the Pack twelve here. Colorado Washington State is going to
be ugly, but I think you'regoing to see a lot of I mean,
two good quarterbacks that I like.This is this is a frustration a

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game that frustration gets taken out forboth offenses. The harsh reality of the
Pac twelve this year has hit bothof these teams. Colorado probably a little
more than Washington State. Washington Statejust lost to cal I mean it's and
I believe they haven't won in likeover a month. Like this is a
game that both teams have to circle. Now they're both four and six,

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so they're both circling it because theyhave to win because if they win this
week, next week they're Bowl eligible. It's a big motivating factor for a
lot of programs, especially of Coloradoand Dion's first year and Wazoo, the
program with a lot of pride thatwould love to be Bowl eligible and showcase
themselves in the postseason with the wholething that's going on with the Pac twelve

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right now. So I think they'regonna see a lot of points in this
game. I think the over overunder sixty four. I'll gladly take the
over in this game. I don'tthink there's gonna be a lot of defense.
Both teams have proven that, andCameron Warden and Sadur Sanders should put
on a show. This is wellworth staying up for late on Friday night.
It Yeah, that's that's the reasonwhy I think it's it's a show.
It's two good quarterbacks and two verygood passing offenses that are that's gonna

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be some fireworks actually, and twobad defenses that we're finding out as well.
Yeah, this this is your perfectPack twelve after dark game. Yes
it is not many of those left. Joe got to take them all.
We got him, got to takethem all. We got them. It's
sad. How's the sad. Areyou to see it go? It's almost
it's almost gone. Not as asI thought i'd be. WHOA wow,

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nice to hear that from you.You were you were Pack twelve after dark?
What happened? Yeah, But thesethese programs are going to go extinct,
and I think the the energy weget from the Pac twelve is gonna
get ship is going to shifted intothe Big twelve. That's fair. All
right, let's move over into Sunday. I don't have anything for Thursday or
Friday. Uh, the uts UTSASouth Florida game, that's the one I

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would probably lean over as well.It's sixty seven and a half. You'd
say, Say's offense just continues tobe very good, and South Florida's offense
it's its best part, but itcan kind of kind of disappear at times.
So I'm a little bit hesitant.But with the way that those two
offens been playing, both two runningquarterbacks and good quarterbacks as well, USF

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has found a pretty good, prettygood freshman quarterback in Byron Brown, So
I think those two offenses can putup some points. So I like the
over sixty seven and a half there. My first one was Saturday. I
don't care that Michigan just had agame against Penn State. They have Ohio
State coming up next. Sorry Maryland. That you have to be in the

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in the way for Michigan to bulldozeyou. But Michigan's going to bull doze
you. As a principal, I'mstaying away from Michigan and Ohio State this
week. This is it's the twobigger, biggest look ahead spots on the
board. Yes, Michigan and OhioStates should cover the spread and beat Maryland.

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And Maryland can't beat these teams.They can't. But this feels I
don't know, like twenty eight tentype game that Michigan just sleep walks through.
I could be wrong. I'm notgonna bet it, man, they
gotta do it for coach. Thatis the If you're gonna bet Michigan,

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that's the way to do it.Be like out they're playing that. I
mean, that's how I bet themagainst Penn State and ended up being right.
So, which, by the way, you haven't got given me credit
for. But it's okay. Inever want to give you credit. I
mean, nobody, nobody at thegame who gives me credit. No,
definitely not me, and you're theonly one who would. So I'm gonna

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do. I'm gonna I have two. I'm just gonna give two out right
away. I'm just not gonna thinkabout it. It's better when I don't
think about my college football bets.West Virginia I'm gonna take is the favorite
against Cincinnati. Cincinnati stinks horrible offense. West Virginia back at home. I
think there's a really good spot forthem. Also, North Texas, so
they have lost the last four games, but they have gone through the gauntlet

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of the American Athletic Conference. Theyplayed Tulane, Memphis, Utsa, and
SMU. All of those teams aretrying to get a spot in the American
Athletic Conference Championship. Tulsa not oneof those teams. I think this is
where North Texas offense kind of takesover. The North Texas is three and
seven, like Tulsa, this isa very different three and seven though,

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again the last four losses, thelast four games, they were three and
three before this stretch. They're threeand seven only because they have taken on
the best teams in the American andthey have played those games very well.
In all four of those matchups.I think North Texas offense is too much
for Tulsa. Tulsa's just Tulsa isa very Temple esque kind of football team.
So I just don't I don't believein them at all. I think
North Texas is getting a bit ofa discounted line here because of what's happened

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to them recently. The entire slate, now go ahead, Ye all right,
I love when you do this.It's great. Penn State minus twenty
and a half against Rutgers. Iknew that was coming. Look, it's
a system that James Franklin outside ofMichigan and Ohio State. You bet on

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them in the Indiana game, Ithink was a little bit fluky, and
Franklin is the system. Joe,and Rutgers can't for the ball. They
can't. It's bad. They verymuch cannot throw the ball. If you
watch that game against Iowa. BecauseI'm a big ten sicco, I watched
Rutgers Iowa and they could not movethe ball. And Penn State's front seven

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can slow down Wimsen and the Nungui. It's cool that Rutgers got Bowl eligible
because they're getting the butts kicked likewe all expected them to Penn State within
the three touchdowns. Absolutely at home. A lot of frustration being taken out
on the State University of New Jerseythis weekend. SMU Memphis huge, huge,
huge game in the AAC. There'sthree undefeated teams in conference play,

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along with Tulane, who hasn't beenplaying really well of late. They've been
getting by SMU Memphis over sixty sixand a half. I'm ready for a
lot of points in this game.Memphis defense has not been playing well,
by the way, very weird endto that Memphis Charlotte game. Was on
the over. In that game,overhit within like three quarters. But Memphis
is defense isn't playing good, theiroffense is humming a little bit, and

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SMU is up there. I thinkthey might end up getting the group of
five berth in the year six.I feel like that's kind of where we're
looking at with them instead of twolane. So I'm on that. Indiana
minus four and a half against MichiganState and he had has shown some life
in the last few weeks. Stilla bad team, but Michigan State is
even worse. They're trying to getto the finish line. They got to

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hire a new coach. All thatJazz Indiana Illinois ended up being one of
the better games of the week,and Indiana has found something at quarterback.
I'll take them at home minus fourand a half. It's gross, I
know, but Michigan State just reallyisn't good and like I said, they're
not really fighting for anything. Libertyminus twenty seven and a half against UMass
Liberty, Yeah, they're doing well. Could they sneak in and get that

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G five berth in the new yearsix? I don't know if they can
because they're in Conference USA and thatconference is so weak, but not.
If they can, they they wouldbe a fascinating team to match up against
in it and which, by theway, Jamie Chadwell will not be there
next year. No, he's gettinghired somewhere, so uh, twenty seven

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and a half Liberty, he'd begreat. Mississippi State Actually, now that
they think about it, Jacksonville Stateminus State in half is great. To
see him in Mississippi State. That'sa good call. Get get like the
air raid type offense back there,make them fun again. It's unfortunate what
happened, Missus. Like you knewit was gonna be bad and oh,
of course, yeah, it's unfortunate, but I think it's great story if

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he gets there. Yeah, Ilike that. Oh or hire Dan mullenback,
do that that too. Jacksonville State, mind state and f against Louisiana
Tech. Louisiana Tech is just bad. Some of their recent results if you
haven't watched them, thirty five,twenty eight, thirty one to twenty three,
twenty seven to twenty four, fiftysix, thirty and forty two to

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twenty seven all losses. They havea really bad defense. I think Jacksonville
State has done pretty well and therein their transition year up to the FBS.
I'll take them at home. I'mgoing Utah over Arizona's taking the money
line. It just comes down toexperience in this one. Arizona's playing some
great football. But I think interms of a team being ready for a
championship style game, which this is, I think Utah wins this game.

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It's gonna be very close, defensiveminded, but I think Utah with their
experience, can win a game likethis. I'm on you. With West
Virginia, Cincinnati has been absolutely atrocious. I hope that the new teams from
the AAC and BYU in the Bigtwelve. Do better next year when everything's
kind of realigned. But it hasn'tlooked great for any of those four teams

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so far this year. And WestVirginia has been playing some decent football,
So I'll take them at home witha touchdown. I'm daring myself here,
Wake Forest Notre Dame over forty sixand a half. Notre Dame has put
up a lot of points on somereally bad teams. Sam Hartman against his
former program in South Bend, andthis is a believed senior day because they're

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playing Stanford at the end of theseason, which, by the way,
the last PAC twelve network game footballgame ever is Notre Dame Stanford. Didn't
think you'd be saying that. Idid not think i'd be saying that they
shoved that game on the Pack twelvenetwork because neither team is desirable right now.
But I'll take over forty six anda half in that game. North
Carolina plus seven at Clemson. Ithink Clemson's still a little bit of a

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mirage and Drake may is the betterquarterback. I know UNC's defense not great,
but I feel like Carolina can potentiallygo in there and win that game.
Yeah, I think we're we soldour Clemson stock. Now we're buying
back in. I think it's timeto sell you what I'm buying in on.
Oh okay, keep going No,no, go ahead, Uh,

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because you were talking about that,you know, time to sell. Uh.
I don't think we should be sellingand you I think we should be
buying into USC. Still. Ibought it into them last week. It
worked. I'm buying into them againthis week. I don't think seven points
high enough. You see LA's offense. I know USC's defense is bad,
but u C LA's offense can't scoreright now. And yes, they will
score more against USC than they didin the last couple of weeks. But

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still it's it's not gonna be ableto keep up with what USC's offense is.
So I think it's so good timeto buy in on USC's offense.
By the way, I kind ofrelated to that. If I was Texas
A and M I would give ChipKelly a phone call. Hmm, that's
tasty. Oh what happened? Hello? But if I was texasaying them,

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I would because she has done thatbad at he is not pretty good.
And you think we're premature because Iwho knows if he's going to be fired.
The report is that he will befired after the USC game, but
there were other reports to say hewas just on the hot seat, so
it's still I think it's a clearinghouse move to have a fresh start for

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the Big ten. Fair enough,fair enough, what that feels like?
Yep? But Chip, could Chipbring Dante more with him to Texas A
and M and be a top tenteam next year? Absolutely could oh a
top ten team? Hmmmmmmm. Maybemaybe talent because what's the two thing?
Texas A and M has struggled withoffensive scheme and quarterback and you get both

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of those when you get Chip Kelly. And Chip Kelly has had a lot
of success with a program that hasa huge donor base with a lot of
money behind it at Oregon. Yeah. I don't know, it's not gonna
happen. I don't think it's gonnahappen. But if I don't know,
if it does, like to circleback to this moment and say Chip Kelly
to Texas A and M. Ithink, yeah, if that is the
suggestion, I do not I donot hate that. I think it'll be

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fun. Back to the picks.Speaking of Chip Kelly's former team, I'm
taking Arizona State plus twenty three anda half at home against Oregon. I
think this is a look ahead spotfor Oregon ahead of the Civil War.
Arizona State's defense plays pretty pretty good. We saw them against Washington. I
think they put in a battle againstbon Nicks. I think this is a

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game that, yeah, probably Oregonwins by maybe like two touchdowns, but
I think Arizona State, because ofthe situation Oregon faces, Arizona State is
not going to back down from thisgame. I think Arizona State their defense
keeps them in this within the threetouchdowns in the field goal. We were
so so right on Mike Gundy lastweek, so let's be so right on

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Mike Gundy again. Oklahoma State minusseven. It was so so so typical
of Gundhy to lose that game inthe way he did against UCF last week,
which, by the way, Idon't know if you watched any of
it, but they it rained inOrlando for a majority of that game.
Oklahoma State didn't even have like tentsor anything to like. Their players were
just like soaked in the South.Has no chance in that game No,

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absolutely not. I bet the under. I bet like I was on sports
here, there and everywhere that'satured withMike Curnam, like Oklahoma State, you
know the very short line. Theycan stay in that game. They've been
really good. And I told him, like, this is the game that
Gundy loses. This is this isabsolutely the game he had no shot at
winning that game, which means winning, which means Oklahoma State out of the

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spotlight playing Houston, absolutely going todestroy Houston. College football can feel so
unpredictable times and then also the mostpredictable sport in all of sports. Coaches
will tell you who they are again, like there were there were four guys
last week James who won't my lessonwith like James frank Glad I never learned

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my lesson, James Franklin, Lanekiff and Mark Steve's Mike Gundy. They've
all told you who they are repeatedly, and they all did exactly what they
do in the same spots they werein last week. Franklin lost the big
game, Kiffen lost to a topten team Stoops. His team Kentucky couldn't
hang with Bama. They've never hungwith the top team ever and Gundhy the

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letdown was inevitable. Let me runthrough the rest of these real quick.
Stanford plus six and a half.I've been betting them as a dog all
season. I think that's a prettylevel game against cal So I'll stick with
them and keep riding that. Speakingof Kentucky taking them minus to a South
Carolina, this is the game theywin. They can't beat anybody, anybody
above them, but they they're kindof like Penn State in a way where

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they beat the teams beneath them inthe standings, except Penn State is a
better program. Here's my upset specialof the week. Ooh, Iowa State
plus seven and a half against Texas. I think Iowa State wins this game,
Okay Texas. Texas has yet tofall in to their trap they usually

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there's usually one of these games.They've lost the last two times they've played
in Ames, and I always state. Look, I know Matt Campbell has
lost an immense amount of shine inthe past few years, but there's still
It is probably not enough, right, but there's still a six and four

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team. They've won four of theirlast five. It's a night game in
Ames like this has the feel ofa game where Texas is just totally caught
off. I've seen this happen somany times before. Again, Sark kind
of tells you who he is to. And then last one, Georgia Tech

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minds six and a half in Syracuse. Syracuse is dead. This deal Babers
just finally get the acts and theythey do something new up there. Not
like Syracuse football matters anymore, butGeorgia Tech should handle that well. I
think one of the more impressive storiesthis season in the a SEC. Georgia
Tech. Yeah, they've been prettygood. I haven't really thought about that,

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but yes, yeah, in termsof where they have been, I
mean since since they got rid ofthe triple option, that haven't been good.
Yeah, five and five, fourand three in the ACC wins against
wake Forest Miami North Carolina. Yeah. Absolutely. And how about Haines king

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leaguing the way he has fourteen receptionsbut still twenty four touchdowns, twenty four
hundred yards not bad. He canhe can throw for like two point fifty
and three against Syracuse. Syracuse isbad. Yeah, Yeahcuse Syracuse is just
perpetually bad at this point. Soyeah, that's that's the Saturday card plus

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the BC money line and the ColoradoWazoo over them. Also, I know
we're not putting this out probably afterWednesday, but I'm on Ohio. I'll
tweet that out at eleven against CentralMichigan, Ohio as one of the better
defenses in the country. Still hasto stay alive for the Macwest in the

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Miami Ohio as the inside track andRed maxtion pretty well on Tuesday night one
to zero to one. Didn't losea bet, So that's a plus with
Eastern Michigan and Bowling Green, althoughit would have been sick if Bowling Green
one is a one outright? Isit ten point dog? But you know
they covered? So is that itfor you for your bets? Joe Tansey,

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Yeah, I think that's a fifteenon Saturday three mid week. Yeah,
that sounds about eighteen. Sounds aboutright, She's eighteen, which which,
by the way, can I goon a small small rate real quick?
Absolutely? So I feel like sowatching college football college basketball is the
same way on a Saturday. Itfeels like election night when you see your

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results come in and you're like,well, am I polling in the right
direction to have a winning Saturday?Like what results do I need to go.
Like that's how my brain operates,know if anybody else's does, but
that's how my brain operates on aSaturday. Is okay, we got four
in the noonslate. I have itall planned out, Like I kid you
know. I went to my wifelast week and I was like, look,
I know you're worried about Michigan PennState, but I haven't proba have

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a perfect college football Saturday plan becauseI got a game at one, I
got a game at two, Igot a game at three, even at
like the five thirty Pac twelve game. Like I schedule it out and I'm
like, Okay, we're good,and we just need like two winning blocks
of games and a winning record somehow, some way. It feels like every
week I do this, I endup at five hundred. I finished eight

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and eight last week, and I'mlike that was a war and it and
to get to eight and eight,I needed the Oregon USC under which cleared
pretty easily. But it feels likeno matter how many bets you have college
football Saturday, it feels like electionwhere you need to have like certain certain
games go your way, like certainstates have to go your way to indicate

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a y. That's how it feelson my end on a college football Saturday,
I would love nothing less. Imean, I'm up. Last night's
games put us at ninety eighty oneand three on the season, so staying
over five hundred pretty easily. Isis fun making profit every Saturday and then
pissing it all away on the NFL. But that's why I'm the college football

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guy. Seeah, I'm the opposite. I just somehow get all these college
football bets wrong, and then Iget all my NFL ones right, and
so I'm at least happy by theend of the weekend. But yeah,
it's always not good going into it, all right, that is it.
By the way, I've seen twotweets already this week of Kellen Moore's Boise
State teams, and man, Iloved those college football squads. I loved

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those teams. Should he just takethat Boise State job and rid himself of
the NFL. He'd be very wellsuited for the NFL, because I think
he's done a great job in theNFL. But yeah, man, Kellen
More could sling it back in theday, could absolutely sling it. Gosh,
those teams are so good. Somuch fun to watch. All right.

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That is it for the College FootballPreview Week number twelve. That was
Joe Tanzi, mister eighteen leg parlay. Joe Tansey again of parlay, Do
you have parlay those just for likefive cents? I actually do for like
five cents, but I do it. I do it more. I actually
I actually do it to like keepall my bets in one spot so I
can just go down win loss,win loss win loss. Yes, that

(54:29):
it's more of like an EIGHTYHD thingthan a winning an eighteen like parlay thing
for five cents, But yeah,I do do that. That's great.
That is Joe Tanzy at Jay Tanzynwady. My name is John Janson at
j Jansson thirty four. That isit for the College Football Preview Pod week
twelve. We'll be back with morenext week for week number thirteen. We
are getting so close to the endof the year, it's crazy. We'll

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be back next week here on theCollege Football Preview pot