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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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We come on what we call the Big Range Preview
here on Fox Sports The Gambler bruddas Jeff Canis O'Bryant
Coyle Beef as we affectionately call him around these parts.
Two more weeks, two more weeks of a regular season
college football. It always flies by, and at this point
in the season, like we always have, you know, in
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past years, it's been four teams in this in this
iteration of the playoffs, twelve teams. We're having a very
very healthy debate, some it's nonsensical debate about what tea
teams should get into the playoff. And if you go
by the betting odds and the betting odds, only the
Tennessee volunteers might get the short end of the stick.
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But a lot can happen in two weeks. A lot
can happen in two weeks. There's two games on the
schedule this week, Indiana, Ohio State and Army Notre Dame
that have significant playoff implications, one for Indiana's sake and
the other one I think for Notre Dame as well.
So it's gonna be very fascinating to see how those
two games play out. But let's start with this the playoff.
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The rankings are out, it's to nobody's surprise the Big
twelve is now really screwed, with Boise State taking over
the number four spot in the projected bracket. And then
we have Tennessee and it is mishbash of two lost
teams in the SEC. So I'll first ask you that
the SEC that order of four teams BAMA, Georgia, OLMSS, Tennessee,
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is it the right order?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I think it is right now.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I think recency bias definitely plays, you know, a role
in this scenario. Like when you look at ole Miss,
the last thing that you remember from ole Miss is
walking off the field victorious against Georgia. When you look
at Tennessee, the last thing you remember at Tennessee walking
off the field a two touchdown loser to Georgia.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So I think that kind of it is taken into
account there.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
But then it also goes you can play the card
of all, right, well, ole Miss has objectively two worst losses.
I mean, well, Arkansas LSU at this point kind of
is a wash. But the Kentucky loss is a lot worse,
you know, for Tennessee, I think than the Georgia loss.
But then when you look at Alabama, like, why are
they all the way up at seven? I believe right
now when they have a loss to Vanderbilt on their
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schedule and then a loss at Tennessee, like you could say,
all right, well Tennessee beat Alabama, Tennessee should be in
over them.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
But it's a lot of where you go back to
the right.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
When the first rankings come out, everything's going to play
itself out pretty much like we're still even. We have
two weeks left, and we're already having the conversation of
all right, some team's gonna get screwed.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
One of these teams can screw themselves over the next
two weeks and push themselves.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Right now, there's still ball to be played, and I'm
really interested to see as well, once we get to
the conference title games what that brings to the table,
Like if there is a two loss team that does
that third loss dingdam that kiffln was.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Talking about earlier this week.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So some a lot of ball to be played over
these next two weeks, and everything's going to iron itself out,
I think, But I do think there's a good chance
that it gets down to like Tennessee, Ole Mess and
like Indiana. You can only take two out of those
three for the at large. That's kind of where I
see it as of right now.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
So then I guess the point that we're all trying
to figure out is what if it doesn't sort itself out?
And look, that's Look, that's a line that I've used many,
many times over the last few years, is that college
football has this weird way of just sorting itself out.
Somebody usually falls. It's college football. There's something weird is
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bound to happen over these next two weeks. Now. I
don't see it happening with the Miss. I don't see
it happening with Tennessee. But that's kind of the glory
of this sport is what if Florida beats all.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Miss What if the bracket? I got the bracket, sure,
but what if.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Like what if Vanderbilt's last stand is against Tennessee at home?
What if those two things?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
What if?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Again it's unlikely, but what if Georgia Tech? What if?
What if that happens? So like, it's all very like
there's a lot of what ifs right with this entire situation,
and there's a bunch of rivalry games baked in that
maybe in previous years we didn't really think to consider right,
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because you have Tennessee Vanderbilt typically a one sided game,
Georgia Georgia Tech good old fashioned hate, typically a one
sided game. And then the Egg Bowl, which is just
it to go on a quick rant and we'll do
this next week. The Egg Bowl being black Friday at
three thirty pm is the biggest crime to humanity we've
ever witness. I mean, let's be honest with ourselves. Thursday night,
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Thanksgiving night, all I want to do is have a
nice alternative to the NFL game. And my two drunk
cousins from Mississippi are beating the pulp out of each other,
and it's the most The egg Bowl is the dumbest
game in the world. It is up there with one
of just the dumbest rivalries in a good way in
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college football, where you never know what exactly is going
to happen. I mean that the what is it?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
The was it Elijah Moore who did the peeing celebration?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, the Odell p on the dog type thing, and.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
That turned into what I think that the dominoes of
like x amount of college football jobs being like, it's
like a sliding doors moment for a bunch of college
football jobs because of how that game finished. But to
put that at Friday at three thirty, I mean, come on, guys.
I know Realignment is taking a lot of things from us,
but give me that on thanks Giving night on one
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of the ESPN networks. It's it's just it's meant for
a primetime game and ran. But to get back to
everything with this, we're expecting Indiana to lose, and then
it becomes the whole conversation with Indiana's schedule, the scheduled conversation, Like,
let's frankly call it what it is. It's bullshit because
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it we're essentially taking Indiana because they're not part of
the who's who of college football.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's a it's a helmet shack right right.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
If you line up all the helmets, which one doesn't
belong it's Indiana. You can circle that right away. But
what I think we're doing here is we're just an
ESPN is the perfect example of that, because you watched
five minutes of the Ranking Show last night, and they're
they're pulling arguments out of left field that you know,
Joey Galloway's out here saying that Curtis work shouldn't play
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against Ohio State. What the hell does that even do,
because then that means Ohio State beats Indiana by like
twenty one points, and it kicks Indiana right right on
out of the playoff cause they can't afford a loss
like that. I think we can all agree to that.
And then you have the comparison of what the UCLA
games like meant for common opponents. Well, if you actually
watch the Penn State UCLA game, Penn State dominates the
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entire game until UCLA scores a garbage touchdown right at
the end of the game. And if you want to
do common opponents, I think Washington's the other one, well,
Penn State completely dominates that one. So you have a
very small factor right in Penn State over Indiana. But
if you really look at Penn State schedule, it's not
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great either. But this is all comes back to one thing,
and it's conference ree alignment. All of these arguments we're
having right now about Indiana's week schedule, Penn State's week schedule,
all mys can be thrown into the fire as well.
Even though they've played LSU and Georgia. Look at the
rest of that schedule. It's not great. But the reason
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we do all this, and it's also the reason why
Oregon is skating right into the Big Ten championship after
beating Ohio State, is because we have eighteen teams in
these conferences. You can't play everybody, and hell, you might
not even play anybody for three or four years, depending
on how the schedule breaks for you. So this is
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a product of conference realignment and it's just kind of
the new reality. So yeah, there are going to be
teams like Indiana every year now in the Big Ten,
in the SEC where they just catch lightning in a bottle.
They're gonna end up being ten to eleven and zero.
We're gonna sit here complain about their schedule and they're oh,
they're in the playoff. Now. We've had instances like this before.
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This happens plenty of times every year in college football,
and I think BYU is the latest example of that
team runs the table, gets lucky a little bit, and
then finally falls off cliff at the end. But when
you look at Indiana's case, they're number five in the
country and now we're having a legit conversation about their schedule.
This is going to happen in the twelve team playoff
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because if this is four teams, it takes care of itself. Right,
Ohio State beats Indiana and boom, we don't talk about
the Hoosiers. They go to like the Gator Bowl or
whatever the Citrus Bowl is, and they have a great season,
but we don't talk about them in the perspective of
the fourteen playoffs. So I think that's the one factor.
And you know, tell me if I'm wrong here. But
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because realignment and the schedules have had thinned everything out
and the matchups can get a little diluted, this is
a product of that. And it's not just Indiana, it's
almost it's Penn State, it's Texas. Of course, you're not
playing a ton of people because you stretch these conferences
so thin that somebody has got to play somebody, and
it's very rare that you end up with a schedule
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like a Georgia or even a Florida. They're not in
the conversation. They've played a lot of rag teams where
yet there's gonna be that's going to be more of
the exception to the rule than the entire trend.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
It's really funny though, because, like if Indiana had been
in this situation last year, or you took the schedule
that they have in front of them of Ohio State
this week, they had Michigan and they also had Washington
on their schedule. So you had the two teams in
the National title game last year and an Ohio State
team that was eleven and a zero going into the
Michigan game. That's three top five, top ten teams on
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your schedule. Indiana just got them on a bad year.
Like you could look at Georgia's schedule and Georgia has
the number one strength of schedule, But if you had
Indiana playing the Washington, Michigan, Ohio State from last year,
you could rival that right with the Georgia schedule from
this year. I think, to be honest, the toughest part
with Georgia is their three toughest games were all on
the road, I think, and I think that's kind of
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the thing that used against them. You could make an
argument whether Tennessee was one of their three toughest games
or not. But it's just like you were kind of saying,
with the conference tree alignment, it's sometimes just going to.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Be luck of the draw.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Now, they didn't do any favors themselves scheduling Charlotte, Western
Illinois and FIU in the non con but at the
same time, they've gone out there and they've dominated each
and every team they've played. Michigan is really the only
team that's given them a ballgame the entire season. And
I just think the most kind of annoying thing is
that every single video I've seen, every podcast I've listened to,
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every article I've read, it's like, well, Indiana is going
to go and get blown out by Ohio State and
everything else will figured out itself out from there. Just
let them go and play the game this week before
you write them off, because I think they're a team
that has kind of that it factor to them, and
who knows, maybe it's a tight game throughout and Ohio
State just has too much talent in sixty minutes and
they pull away over the last quarter. That could very
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well happen, but at least let them go and play
the game. They're ten to zero for a reason, and
they've been winning by double digits each and every week
easily for a reason. They're a pretty damn good football team.
Seems like the coach knows what he's doing a little
bit as well. Just let things figure itself out and
revisit this conversation at three thirty or four on Saturday
afternoon before burying Indiana right now.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
So I agree with you, but we have to make predictions.
I agree, and.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Nine percent of people are just completely written you know.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I agree with I completely agree with you on that.
So the hypothetical is the spread's thirteen points. The odds
makers are obviously not giving Indiana a chance in hell
either to go in the Columbus and even be competitive.
So if that's the case, and you look at this
game to thirteen point spread, what does Indiana have to
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do in a losing effort to be safely considered in
the playoff Because we're sitting here and we expect them,
with the loss, regardless of what happens, to drop into
this pool of two loss teams Alabama, Georgia, Olemis and Tennessee.
And if we expect all four of those teams to
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win out at least in the regular season, we're comparing
them with Indiana, a one loss Big ten team who,
according to people who think they know everything, hasn't played anybody.
So if you look at this, this whole picture, now,
what does Indiana have to do? Obviously winning would be huge,
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and then then you could have the conversation about Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I think Indiana.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I think if Indiana wins this game, I think Indiana
has the argument to not only leap Ohio State, but
be the number one team in the country in the
playoff frankings next week.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I think there's a legitimate argument there for that, even
over Oregon.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Oh maybe, but I think the Boys. I think the Boys.
You win for Oregon is aging so well.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, I think you carry a little bit more weight.
But going to Columbus and winning when Oregon's win was
in Eugene, I think.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
There could certainly be an argument.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
You could certainly put them at number two. Would I
would be number two? Yeah? So can they do it?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I think that there's certainly a chance. You know, I,
if I'm a betting man, sure give me the plus thirteen.
I think the major difference in this one in Ohio
State Center just tore his acl That adds another kind
of wrinkle to this, But if you look at the
one week point of Ohio States roster, I think you
can say the offensive line. Indiana's defensive line has had
a really good season. They lead the Big Ten in
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sacks and tackles for loss. I think that excuse me
kind of disruption upfront could be the major difference maker.
Does Will Howard, you know, step up and make a
few big plays like he did towards the end in
the Ohio State game, or does he look like the
quarterback kind of in the first half that through the
pick six was missing a few erratic throws.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Indiana's a team too as well.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I know, coming off of buye Signetty's gonna have them ready,
and I don't think it's going to be a fearless team.
I'm more or so on the side of this is
going to be a ballgame down to the wire than
Ohio State kind of dominating from start to finish. Maybe
Ohio State is up seven points and they get a
late touchdown run to seal the deal.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
But I think Indiana for sure can make this a game.
And I still think that the odds kind of reflect that.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Even if they lose this game, if they keep it close,
they're going to be in the playoffs in there at
minus four fifty.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I don't see it dropping that much if they keep
this one close.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
But I do think if you're in the boat of
Indiana finishes eleven and one, this is a close loss,
I would definitely take them plus the thirteen rather than
like look at them to make the playoff there at
minus four to fifty, because as long as they make
this a game, and if they don't mess up next
week against Purdue, they go eleven and one, I think
it's going to be really hard to keep them out.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
They certainly won't be slipping up against Purdue. I mean,
their groundskeepers can't even do the end zones right Indiana. So,
and this is important to note with the odds, because
the odds are usually baking the remaining schedule and everything
kind of into account here. So they're not just this
isn't just a we're looking at undefeated Indiana. They're looking
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at what would one loss Indiana do to get into
the to the playoffs. So you're right, it is telling
that at minus four to fifty, Indiana is sitting pretty comfortably. Meanwhile,
this group of teams beneath the top ten and odds
to DraftKings Sportsbook to make the playoff. Tennessee is there
at minus one thirty.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Five YEP, significant drop off.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Right, whereas Ole missus minus five hundred, Georgia is minus
twenty five hundred. I think they're pretty safe at this
point in the game. So if you're Tennessee, and I
was tweeting this last night, if you're Tennessee, you're either
rooting for Ohio State to beat the breaks off of Indiana,
because then we can we can come out here and
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kind of say the similar thing to maybe not as
as to the extend as BYU, but we can say, oh,
Indiana a little bit fraudulent, and people will say that
that's just how this vicious cycle works.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
If Indiana gets right off the field like it's from
start to finish, not a game. I think in that
scenario you definitely have to football. As we're saying, let
the game happen, and then we talk about whether it
should be Indiana or Tennessee or I think All miss
should be looped in that conversation. I'm sure we'll touch
on that, But two games I'm definitely looking at as
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potential trap spots Penn State at Minnesota, will Miss at Florida.
Like those either of those teams lose, we have a
more chaos on our hands through Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
In the conversation as well.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I think that's the point that everybody's making is well,
if you're Tennessee, if you're Indiana, even as one lost team,
you're rooting like hell for Army or USC in the
next two weeks to beat Notre Dame because they don't
have a conference championship. They're in if they win out,
and they're the one kind of X factor that we're
putting in. It's crazy because they have the worst loss
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of anybody across the board against Northern Illinois, but yet
here they are it kind of protected by their record.
And you can say the same thing about some of
these other teams. But what I'm also interested in is
the ACC and the Big twelve now right, because it's
very clear they're one bit leagues. The Big two well,
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although exciting, doesn't really rate in the eyes of the
rankings makers, and you can see that because Colorado very exciting.
Probably I would have to argue one of the top
ten teams in the country. Their rank sixteenth that they
have to win out. They have to win the Big
Twelve championship game to even remotely have a sniff at this,
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which is is kind of a shame because I look
at the College Football Playoff and yes, this is run
by the Big ten in the SEC, and it always
will be from this point on. But Colorado has the
best individual player in the country and Travis Hunter. They
have whether you like Shidara Sanders or not, he's a
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top ten draft prospect. You have the most engaging coaching
personality out there. And the team's pretty damn good. They've
improved on their weaknesses from last year and they can't
they can't even sniff a move up into the top fifteen,
and they've been playing really good ball over the last
few weeks. So that right there tells you the Big
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Twelve is a one big league and there's a chance
Boise State might not have to play in the quarterfinals,
and then they get right into the quarters. So what
do we make of the Big Twelve? This kind of
goes into this week's games, DYU. It's hard to use
the frog word, but kind of feels that way the
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way people are talking about them, And now they're I
believe a three point dog at Arizona State this week,
and they're plus three thirty now to make the playoff, which, oh,
by the way, Arizona State is only plus three eighty.
The next two they're in right, and then you have Colorado.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I still think they're the best team in the Big twelve.
The odds suggests that they're minus one twenty to make
to make the playoff, but.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Only a three point favorite at Kansas this week.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I've a foreign team, Kansas team that just beat BYU,
a Kansas team that was incredibly competitive with Kansas State,
a Kansas team that beat Iowa State. So what do
we make of the Big twelve? What are the Lions
telling us here? Is it? Look, I'm gonna blindly bet Colorado.
I think they've been incredibly strong. And look, Kansas's strong
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suit is the quarterback play, and they've been playing really
good defense. But some of these Big twelve teams have
been found out BYU, Iowa State, even Kansas State to
an extent, I would be more inclined. And because BYU
is the underdog, it's not much of a surprise here,
but I'd be more inclined to bet Colorado and Arizona
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State in these two spots because Arizona State, for me,
is the most underrated team in the entire country, and
they've come out of really kind of out of nowhere.
Cam Skataboo one of the most electric running backs in
the country. Kenny Dillingham has done a phenomenal job. And
think of where ASU was after herm Edwards left. It
was quite a big mess. And the fact that he's
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come in there and turned things around and are there
are two wins away from a conference championship game is
really insane and it's a credit to the coaching job
he's done. I think they beat BYU. I think Colorado
beats Kansas. I don't think you can read into lines
as much as you want, but I think that's the
way you kind of have to lean on those games.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I'm the opposite. I'm going with it.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I love it, I love it, and I'm going with
BYU Colorado over this four game win streak. And I
think you said best. I think they are, like top
to bottom, the best team in the Big Twelve. But
I also don't think there's some bulletproof team like I
think we see it with the projected spread between Ohio
State BYU right now in the Big Twelve or the
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twelve Verse five game in the first round of College
Football playoff twenty one and a half points, I think
would be pretty similar, maybe like eighteen and a half
nineteen and a half if that was Colorado in place
of BYU. I don't think there's some bullet roof team
and I don't think being the champ or the best
team in the Big Twelve it is necessarily a high
priority kind of crown to wear. Like. I still think
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there's a lot of exploitable things on that team. And
when you look at Kansas, they've been playing pretty well
as of recently, have won three of four as you mentioned.
Their only lost in that stretch was a two point
rivalry game loss, and they go and knockoff and undefeated
BYU team last week. They've been playing well after a
really slow start to the year, and I think Colorado
could be due for a slip up.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
So I do like Kansas in.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
That one, and I'm gonna go with BYU because I
think Arizona State kind of in the same spot where
they're a good team and a team that I feel
like i've watched. I think they're either eight and two
right now. I want to say I've watched seven or
eight Arizona State games this year. I've watched a weird
amount of them, and like, because it all goes back
to that Thursday night game in like September between Texas State.
Ever since then, I've kept like a close eye randomly
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on both those teams. And great story. You said it
with the sanctions and whatnot, but Dillingham basically said, like
this was a job that he got hired to get
fired pretty much, or for them to turn it around
this quick has been a really cool story right up
there with kind of Indiana and even look at Colorado
what they've done. But BYU is a team that's played
in close games all year and last week was the
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first time they lost it.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And I'm not sure if you saw it, but it
was a pretty funky loss. There was a pooch punt.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
By Jalen Daniels. Yeah, it hits the BYU guy, and
that was kind of the turning point in that one.
So a few literal bounces go a couple of different ways,
and BYU is probably walking out of there with the wins.
So they're a team that's playing in close games all year.
I'm gonna take them on the road in the upset there,
and I'm gonna take Kansas at home against Colorado. And
if those two scenarios happen, I'm not sure what the
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scenarios would be for next week for who to make
the big twelfth title game, but that would be full
blown all in chaos.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I think we're due for a little bit of chaos
for sure. I just here's here's my issue with BYU.
They played in these close games, right and there's no
dynamic pull away ability not a word, but you kind
of know what I mean here with Kansas and Utah.
And look, I know Kansas is significantly improved, and I
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believe they have do they have to win out to
get into a bowl game? Yeah? Four in starts right now,
so there's a little extra motivation. You can probably sell
me a little bit more on Kansas. I just I
haven't been really impressed with BYU. And I think Arizona
State the way they can control the ball, and they
went in and bullet k State, they really did. And
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I think BYU is trending more downward than we think.
And yeah, look, you gotta be able to pull yourself
out of that mistake, and to me, like it felt
like once that mistake happened, that the pooch punt you're
talking about, because Kansas scored right away, it felt like
BYU didn't have a response. And that's my concern going
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forward is do they have the response? Is that built in?
I don't know if it is.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
So.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I think with Arizona State, like you said, there are
a few teams every year that you watch so much
of in college basketball and college football and you kind
of become attached and you think you have a feel
for what they do. Arizona State is that team for
me as well. I think they've progressed a lot over
the year, and I just think they have the difference
maker in Scatago, and I think that does make the
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difference in that game. As much as you could try
and sell me on BYU, I'd have a much easier
time being sold on Kansas pulling off an upset because
of what they've played in the last three weeks. But man,
I think it's just a Eyu's on that slippery slope
and I think they've they've gotten down. There's like an
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avalanche coming with them.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
And the result will surprise me in either of those matchups.
If whatever team wins, I'm not going to be walking
out of there shocked at all.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I can see him going any other way.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
It's like the Big Twelve is kind of just like
flip a coin basically and hope for the best in
some of these you know, two and a half three
points or three points prime matchups.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Some of these spreads are so close.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
But yeah, the we talked about it in the summer
it was gonna be the Conference of chaos, and I
don't think any of us said at the end the
final four is probably coming down to Colorado BYU Arizona State,
and I guess I was State. I think it is
the fourth team still kind of mathematically in the mix,
but it's not the greatest conference. I think they'll be
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a quick one and done in the playoff. But but
it's been a fun conference to keep up with this
year with some pretty great stories.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Can I give you the most chaotic result possible. Let's
get it, Oklahoma State beats Colorado next week.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I have Oklahoma State this week spoiled one of my picks.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I'm like pray and like, give me one Big Twelve Winnee's.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Gundy's got one of them in him. I hate that.
I'd like, look, I got off you stay like six
times this year, right exactly like home the state always
They're usually not this bad, and I think they probably
should have. They probably should have refurbished the roster a
little bit better. The problem with them is traditionally Gundhy
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does get one of these where he is the ultimate
chaos maker. They can't stop a damn thing. That's the problem.
Like I think he is shot, although he's played a
little bit better over the last few weeks. But they
hung with TCU for just a little bit, hung with Baylor,
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and then everything just comes apart in the second half.
And which is why the Texas Tech Oklahoma State over
sixty seven is very much circled bold and underlined everything
because they can't stop anybody. They haven't held an opponent
under thirty eight points since the Utah game, and that's
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not saying much because Utah's offense hasn't been good. I
think Texas Tech Oklahoma State that I mean, that's it's
a lot of points to swallow in the Big twelve,
but I think that's a pretty much a no brainer.
With the way they can't. But I wouldn't be surprised
if Oklahoma State is that one team that just pops
up out a note like, we're looking at all these
rivalry games and who can who can spring the upset
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Thanksgiving weekend. I know we're looking ahead to that, but
we always do this Thanksgiving weekend. Oh well, what if
Georgia Tech, what if Vanderbilt? What if you know, any
of these other teams that are kind of little brother
in their respective rivalries, what if they do this? Typically
it doesn't happen. Usually the big brother is big brother
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and these rivalries. But there's gotta be I think there's
one really big upset still brewing somewhere out there. Maybe two.
Oklahoma State over Colorado would be that super super big one.
I wouldn't bet it. But if you come to me
next Friday and say, Oklahoma State played Colorado pretty close
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and Colorado just gave up, I wouldn't be totally totally
stunned at that. But no, it's in bold, but it's
a noon kickoff weird. Yeah, it's one of those weird ones.
So maybe they maybe they hang around. But again, that's
kind of a bit of a stretch for that game.
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I want to hit on Army and Notre Dame because
this is this is now becoming and potentially fascinating discussion.
Army is a fourteen and a half point dog. It's
a primetime game at Yankee Stadium against Notre Dame. Notre
Dame has been boat racing everybody, but they haven't played
anybody in the last few weeks. But now we're running
into this situation where we say Tennessee and Indiana they
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want Army to beat Notre Dame? Do they though? Is
this the upset they want? Because if Army beats Notre Dame,
Army is going up in the ranks. They're shooting up
and all of a sudden, Boise State's got a little
bit of a sweat going on. Is that the upset
that they want? Would they rather just put all their
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chips into USC And I believe US is gonna have
Bowl eligibility on the line in the next two weeks,
potentially Lincoln Riley's job new quarterback in there in Mayava.
Maybe that's the point we circle for an upset that
at least these teams want. But can Army do it?
Is kind of the question. I'm kind of roundaboutly asking
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you here.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I don't think that they can. I think I think
Army will. I mean obviously, obviously, excuse me. We'll see
in a few weeks against Navy.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
They're not the same against Lean as well.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, they're They're the not the same triple off triple
option offenses of the past like that. There's more different
kind of looks and incorporated into these offenses now, So
you can't say, all right, well they shut down Navy's offense,
They're definitely gonna shut down Army. But Notre Dame has
just been on an absolute rule I got it right here.
Over this eight game winning streak, they've outscored their opponents
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three hundred and forty three.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
To eighty five.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
And I think Notre Dame knows too, Marcus Freeman knows,
like we have the worst loss of anyone in the
country in the mix for the playoffs. We have to
do everything we can to pretty much kind of ramp
up our style points like leave the lasting image of
your season that every game since the Northern Only game.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You basically beat the other team's head in. And Marcus
Freeman best coach in the country against the spread since
taking over, I think he is twenty two, twenty three,
eleven and two against the spread sixty seven point seven
percent of the time he covers since he became the
head coach at Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
So he's a guy that said James Franklin three, answer
the question. I think he's I think over that the match. Yeah,
I think over that stretch. It's climbing and Franklin in
there as well. But he knows that he has to
run these scores up, and I think he has the.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Ability to do that.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
One thing I would just say, with the caution a
potential close game, and it's why I liked Army North
Texas Under a couple of weeks ago. North Texas they
wanted to play high thirties forties and just air it
out and make it attract meet. Army went back to
old school. Army had that one nineteen play drive and
really just kept the ball on the ground and out
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of the.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
North Texas offense hands.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
If they're able to do that and have these slow,
methodical drives make it as ugly as possible, anything is
possible in those scenarios. But Notre Dame really didn't blink
our bat and I at Navy Army similar enough. I
think that sounds like a pretty square analogy in that scenario.
But Notre Dame's been rolling and I think they continue
to do that.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
In this one.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Is Army even the best what group of five team
in their conference?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Your Green Wave?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, I think I think two Lane is the much
better team and the bigger threat the Boise, But I
think the I think the climb has gotten I think
the climb happened too late for Tulane to get in there.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, it's a shame that Tulane, like Oklahoma, wasn't like
this week. So I think there's a scenario that Tulane
might have even been favored in that game.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah. No, I actually think that would actually be a
really really strong case, especially where Ora Okahoma is.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, I think I think you could even have like
a if you had like a Louisiana state playoff this year,
it would actually be pretty fun. Yeah, because you have
Because the Rage and Cagun's are playing pretty well as well.
The sun Belt is all sorts of chaotic because there's
a chance that I think any one of like six
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teams can still get into the Sun Belt Championship game,
which is gonna make like Marshall JMU next week actually
is like a huge, huge game in the in the
Sun Belt. Real quick, Let's get through a few others.
Let's talk. Is Florida real quick? Almost ten and a
half point favorite over Unders fifty five and a half
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billion apri still has a job? How do we even
kind of contextualize what Florida is doing? They have they
have to win one game in the next two weeks
to be Bowl eligible, and I think we assume that's
gonna happen next week against FSU. But can they can
they can they play sport this week?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I think they can.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I'm in the camp of as of right now, I
think ole Miss is probably the second best team in
the country. I'm really high on them in a way
that they've been looking in recent weeks coming into form.
I think you can make an argument, and it was
talked about all off season that they might have the
best roster in all of college football. And I think
they've really started to kind of come into form over
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these recent past few weeks. So it's not gonna surprise
me if they go in there and take care of business.
But Florida has been playing really well. DJ Lagway is awesome.
He's the truth, and I think the guys are just
playing really hard for Napier. I mean, that's an LSU
team that was that's in full quip mode. I think
right now in Brian Kelly, you look at Florida kind
of the opposite way. It seems like they're playing for
their coach. So when it surprise me at all if
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they kept that one close, Ole Miss has a lot
to play for. Still, are they going to go into
this one tight? You said that the Egg Bowl next week,
but that one will be maybe almost a three touchdown favorite.
I think in that game, yeah, yeah, But ole Miss
kind of in the scenario of Notre Dame as well,
don't leave the committee with the option of like, oh, well,
they weren't really playing that well over the past couple
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of weeks. Run it up and with the style points.
So if you're making me take a bet on that one,
I'm not going to bet that game. But I would
take ole Miss minus ten and a half. I think
Florida can keep it close, but ole Miss kind of
imposes their will over the second half.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I would actually take the under fifty five and a half. There.
Ole Miss's defense has been phenomenal over the last few weeks.
If the statement win does happen in the like of
like a forty seven to three, I don't think it'd
be that big, but something similar. I think that's where
it ends up being, where it's all miss wins big,
but they also so cover and the game is kind
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of out of question pretty early on in that game.
A few others, I just want to kind of touch
on real quick. Penn State eleven point favorite at Minnesota.
I don't think we have to worry about Penn State.
The middle to the lower class of the the Big
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Ten is not great, and Minnesota has already got Bowl
eligibility wrapped up. I think that's that's an important thing
to note over these next two weeks. Bowl eligibility and
what it means to not just the Power Conference teams,
but the G five teams as well. It's a narrative
that is one hundred. But Minnesota's got that wrapped up.
They already They lost to Rutgers last week, so the
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juice is kind of is kind of gone there. Their
rivalry game next week with Wisconsin is kind of where
everything is. I don't think Minnesota can do this right.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Now Franklin takes care of the inferior opponent's twenty three
thirteen and one against the spread as an away favorite
to the matchups. So I will say, we just talked
about Ole Miss and Florida, but Penn State and Minnesota.
It's like, if college football wants to give us some chaos,
these are the two kind of matchups I'm looking for,
because like it's a scenario where you know, if all
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things shake right, Minnesota makes that game as ugly as possible,
who knows, you get a bad kick in there or
something that could be a thirteen to ten Minnesota game.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I'm not saying that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I'm gonna bet Penn State in this one, But Minnesota
and Florida are the two teams I'm looking at that
have the role to potentially play the biggest spoiler in.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
College football this weekend.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
If college football is the college football that we know
and love, somebody's gonna go down this week that we
weren't expecting to add a whole nother loop into the
conversation going into rivalry.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
But I'll lay it with with James Franklin and Penn State.
With that, with those data and the trends behind them.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
If yeah, if they're chaos agents, they are the two
to watch out for now. I don't think it'll it'll happen,
but they are the two chaos agents. Like you said,
bail eligibility, big thing, the one, the one that circles
right one stands out right away to me is U
c l A plus the four and a half against USC.
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They need to win out and then that goes into
our situation of well, USC has got something to play
for against Notre Dame that you can spin into a
narrative there. There'll be plenty of others. I'll look into
a lot of them, especially at the G five level,
but Florida again is a team that could be desperate.
I don't think any of the four win teams are
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really really in situations that have our attention. I think
next week for sure. Though. The the bailigibility is something
we can absolutely take advantage of from a betting standpoint.
But I wish if you're if you were betting, you
kind of wish Minnesota had five wins because then you
could be like, they're they're putting all the chips on
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the table there. But I don't think we can, we
can really convince ours that that is a thing real quick.
I do want to hit some G five lines because
there's some really, really bad teams in the Group of five,
and I've been betting against them pretty much the entire
month of November. The one thing I'll look at in
the Sun Belt I have Texas State minus twenty against
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Georgia State. No reason Georgia State should have been favored
last week against Arkansas State.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
That Georgia State team beat Vandy.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, that's insane. They're two and eight and they're they're
not They're not particularly good. Another team that I think
might be the worst team in the FBS A Southern
miss They've been getting the break speed off of them
pretty regularly over these last few weeks. South Alabama is
a twenty point favorite against them. A they need to
win for a boiligibility because they played they're five and five,
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but they're also in the mix for the Sun Belt
title game and they played Texas State next week, so
that's a game that they have to win anyway against
Texas State. But at bare minimum, they have to win
this game to get into a bowl. And then are
we trust in Missouri? This is back to the Power Conference.
But seven and a half points against Mississippi State, that's it.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
I thought they looked pretty solid last week against South Carolina,
like that was kind of the best wave looked in
recent weeks.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
And South Carolina has been surgeon too.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
You can make an argument over the last month that
they're one of the best teams in the country and
Missouri took him to the wire. They should have won
that game, and it took some last second heroics there
by South Carolina. But I think it's a scenario where
I would look to bet them, But also you could
kind of look at that game as a win out
of the sales type game and a last ditch effort
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maybe there for Missisippi State to get a conference man.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I think that's the Egg Bowl next week. I think
that's I think that's where it is. They'll put all there,
for lack of a better term to pun intended here,
eggs into the Egg Bowl. I think that's where it is.
Arrivi Week is one of my favorite weeks because you
get football spread out out Friday Saturday. Unfortunately we don't
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have the Thursday night game we do, but it's Memphis
and Tulane not the egg Bowl, but I'm really looking
forward to breaking down that next week with you and
hopefully Mark Henry Junior is back with us, because that
has the potential to be a little bit chaotic, and
hopefully we do have one or two chaos agents floating
around this week that then make next week all sorts
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of fun as well. But Verian Beef Coyle, I am
Joe Tansey. Thank you everybody for tuning in once again,
and good luck on all of your bets on Saturday spreads,
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