May 23, 2025 • 16 mins
UND Football Color Analyst Mike Berg talks how the number of how many high school football players, being recruited right out of high school, continues to decrease in today's college sports environment... and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Morning. Here we are again, Here we are again.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yes, what do you think of your Dodgers getting swept
by the Angels.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm glad they had a lead in the West. I
watched only one of them. It's probably a little frustrating,
but no reason to panic because the end of the
day there's still the Dodgers and the other team is
still the Angels.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Wow, that's a shot. You don't take many, but that
is definitely one of the few that I've heard you take, however,
disguised and passively at the Crosstown Angels, that I've ever heard.
That's pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I did see the one. Was it when the Dodgers
were scored nineteen runs? And I can't remember who they
were playing, but they had a position player pitch and
he struck out.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh John, I think it was the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Was it the A's Yeah, I think so, yeah, And
he well he's struck out on Tani. But then he
wanted to keep the ball.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Sure, Well, wouldn't you, absolutely absolutely, But I you know,
baseball wise, I'm most excited about our twins. They bought that.
I mean, I know, well, they're ahead in this rain
shortened game, but they went on quite a run there
to get themselves well over five hundred and back in
the race.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Hey have a I have a question. The twins obviously awesome.
Somebody asked me this the other day, and I didn't
really know what to say, because I guess I'll have
to go up to coach Minton ask this one, because
I get it. It's a I had not even thought
in these terms. So somebody asked me. They said, well,
I've been following on social media on the Twitter or
(01:53):
x or whatever and seeing this guy committed or this
young person committed incoming. So these guys are still high
school junior is going to be seniors or whatever. Many
of them are committeing and verballying and stuff like that.
And somebody said, you know, it used to be you know,
your incoming recruiting class would be twenty or twenty twenty four,
(02:16):
twenty five, twenty six. Guys are more teams now because
of the portal going to have recruiting class that you
announced there in December or whatever it is on that
recruiting signing day. Is that going to continue to get
smaller and smaller for teams like you, indeed, to leave
more room for portal type players and I said, I
(02:37):
don't that's a good question. I don't know what the
answer is there.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You know, I personally I don't have any inside information,
but it seems to me, well, the way things are
going now, you first of all, you need to recruit
your own players at the end of every season, right
and you don't know how many you're going to be
able to retain. And so that is a change. A
(03:03):
commitment right now from a high school junior who has
yet to play his senior year. There's nothing firm about that.
It's you have a verbal commitment from both sides. We'd
like to have you, okay, I'm coming to you, guys.
And then they go out and have a great senior year,
and all of a sudden, some FBS school is recruiting
(03:26):
them and offering them all of a sudden, that commitment
is a little less valid. So curious, Yeah, that's curious.
Obviously they make schools make more offers than they have
scholarships available, right, pretty well known they make more offers.
If everybody accepted the offer, they'd have to tell some
(03:49):
oh my bad, we didn't mean it, never mind, because
it couldn't They couldn't provide all those scholarships. At the
same time, everybody who makes a commitment isn't necessarily firm either,
So it's a whole new world out there, Paul.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
So yeah, the question is, you know, I think they're
looking at it from the math perspective, which I completely get.
You know, like, if you have twenty five incoming that
have never played college football before, and that now puts
your roster at a certain limit basically, and that doesn't
give you a lot of room to play with the
portal because in December, you sign twenty six guys or
(04:24):
twenty seventy, and you expect them all to be here
in August, because now they're signed, they're on the dotted
line at that point. Now, as you mentioned, you re
recruit your own roster that you currently have. They're in
January and February. But now with the numbers, you're saying, boy,
we only have room for one portal. That so I
get what that that person was saying, And you know
(04:46):
what I was looking at it. I was like, boy,
you make a point, because I that's an interesting game
now that coaching staffs have to play.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I understood. And you look at your immediate needs and
you go into the portal and get commitments from guys
in the portal. That cuts down your freshmen obviously. Uh.
And you have your your roster limit right now at
you India. I think it's one oh five, yeah, five
or one oh six. So you need a commitment first
(05:17):
from the guys that are currently on the roster. And
at the end of spring practice, some of the guys
that were that we watched in the spring game the
Spring Showcase aren't going to be there in August and
they had to let them go because they are bringing
in X number of freshmen. So yeah, I think it's
a it's a constant shuffling. Yeah. Yeah, and the portal
(05:40):
has thrown another wrench into it because you need to
make room for these guys because they're going to bring
you immediate help. You don't expect incoming freshmen to play.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, And I was going to is that is that
basically hurting high school seniors in their signing days. There's
less opportunities then basically for them to sign.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yes. Yes, the portal didn't do high school as any favor.
All of a sudden, kids that would have been recruited
understanding that they were going to sit for a year.
Maybe two are getting bypassed and a portal kid comes in,
and even kids on the roster are getting kept down
on the depth chart or not brought back because all
(06:21):
of a sudden they bring a portal kid in and
he transfers from you know, you name your FBS school.
He's supposedly better because he came from FBS, even though
there's a reason he's leaving that school. Is he not
able to play there? If he's playing at the other place,
he's not leaving. Yeah, he's leaving to play. Well, something
(06:42):
has to give if he's coming to your place to play,
and then who was going to play isn't going to
And there are fewer opportunities for high school kids, I believe.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, Tim, go ahead, Yeah that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Would you, Mike, in the way the sports world is now,
would you want to be coaching in college?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You know? I think they're all kind of learning as
they go how it has changed. I've asked that very
question to a guy that we all know is Roger Thomas. Yeah,
we've talked about it, and Rogers said, no, I wouldn't
touch it. Yeah, you know, I mean, if you if
you have been there and you're now retired and out
(07:25):
of it. It was tough enough in your day. Well,
now you look at it, and you know, how do
you how do you compete? When you recruit a kid,
you do all the diligent work to offer him, You
expect him to come in and all of a sudden,
somebody on a different level starts throwing big amounts of
(07:46):
money at him. Do you blame the kid for taking
the money? Do you blame that school for it? Used
to be there used to be kind of a gentleman's agreement.
If a kid commits to so and so school, the
rest of us are going to leave him alone. Well,
if he committed to that school, I don't think that
exists anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, forget about the incoming. It's more about you recruit
that guy and that kid, and you spend all that time,
and then he spends two to three years with you,
and now he's just becoming perhaps an all conference player,
and that's when the big school comes in, and that's
when it hurts even worse, it's less. I mean, it
hurts when it's an incoming freshman, there's no doubt about it.
(08:26):
But that's a lot. As you mentioned, not too many
freshmen are expected to play It's about the sweat and
equity that you put into him to build him for
the first two or three years. Now he's a second
team All Conference. Now he's a first team All Conference
as an emerging junior, and all of a sudden, boom,
big ten sec.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, I'll tell you something else we probably don't think
about coaches, do If you had a kid on your
team and you knew he was going to be there,
you might be ready to get on him a little
bit harder if he's not doing his job. All of
a sudden, you say to yourself, wait a second, I
(09:03):
start chewing this kid, I start making life difficult for
this kid because he's not doing what's expected, He's going
to leave. So do I now back off?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Or am I just as you know? Am I just
as structure? Do I have just a hive expectations? Am
I not afraid of getting into his face? Whether it's
a practice or meetings or some disciplinary thing. Do we
overlook some things so that he doesn't leave? Because if
I make him mad, if I upset him, he's going
to leave. And geez, I don't want to be a
(09:35):
nut spot. If I'm a coach and I've got a
kid that's not meeting our expectations. I want to put
my butt, my foot firmly up his butt. And I
think some coaches are aware if they do that, that
guy's out and guy's gone, and somebody will recruit him,
somebody will want him. Yeah, yeah, you would hope you
(09:55):
do it different.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You would hope you do your due diligence and get
him in the first place, that he wouldn't be that guy, right.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
But can I go back again to why is he
in the portal? Did his previous coach say enough for
this guy, we don't want him around our appy, he's leaving.
How do you know that I will?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I will share right with you that I have heard
this phrased a lot around the college basketball world that I,
you know, spend twenty four hours a day with basically
for a certain segment of the year, and over the
last five to six years, I've heard the phrase from
the student athlete that's there at the time. I'm not
(10:40):
naming names, but it's more than one. It's in fact several.
I want to be coached hard. That's why I came here.
I want to be coached hard. And when they start
getting coached hard, guess what they're doing. They're out, they
are checking out. You can see in their eyes they're
complaining and winding to their friends. Why is he being
so tough on me? And stuff like that. So when
(11:01):
they actually do get coach hard, they say one thing.
They want to be coached hard. They've been telling that
during their recruitment. They tell that to me when I'm
asking them questions. I'm so excited, I'm going to be
coach really tough here, get the best out of me.
And then when it happens, guess what. Looking for the
out immediately. It's incredible to me.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Very very common story. And I think you hit the
nail on the head there with I want to be
coached hard. That sounds good man. I am a warrior.
Let's go to work.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh wait a second, see that does that mean I'm
going to have to earn my spot or car Well,
I don't know if I want to be coach that hard.
And honestly, we were talking football. It's a lot harder
to determine if a kid's a football player. You have
one hundred and some guys in basketball. It's right there
on the court. You can see it. There's a dozen
(11:52):
guys or fifteen guys, there's nowhere to hide. Football, you
can kind of work your way to the back of
the line and hang around and nobody really knows except
the coaches looking at the film. But in basketball, man,
there's nowhere to hide, and only so many are getting
on the court.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, it's been shocking to me how many times I've
been told that phrase or something similar to it, that
that happens, and I just I kind of just chuckle
now anytime I hear that, because I'm like, Okay, I
guess we'll see because when it actually happens, and I'm
not talking, nobody's calling your mom anything or but they're
calling about out you about doing your job and what
(12:33):
you've been coached to do through the summer and things
like that. They're asking you like, hey, we need you
to dial in now. And if that's getting coached hard,
then you know, I guess, and you're having a problem
with that. It's crazy to me, but I've seen it
way too many times. One last thing, coach and I
kind of hogged this conversation. Sorry, Tim Jack Michaels, who
(12:56):
we work with, who is our colleague and friend. You know,
he was off on a road trip so often his
mother Marge is listening to our football broadcast, to Red
Hawk's broadcast. Mother Marge of Jack Michaels passed away. Over
the last several days, I've reached out via text messager.
Jack had a brief conversation that way. I know there's
a lot of things where our thoughts are with Jack
(13:18):
and the passing of his mother, who is near and
dear to him, who is a bedrock of their family
for so many years, their biggest proponents of him and
his siblings. So thoughts to Jack Michaels basically with the
passing of his mom.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Well, we've been I've been in touch with Jack a
couple of times, and then we will touch base again
on this. But the story of him, if you if
you've listened to him call baseball and you know his
home run call, yes, sure you know, track down Marge.
That has real significance. And it's a sad deal that
(13:54):
his mom passed. He was ninety two years old, I believe,
and his dad passed a very short time ago as
well well. Right, and and Jack has never been shy
about talking how special, about how special his family was,
his parents, and you know, his siblings, and so yeah,
it's very very sad to see a family guy like that.
And he spent many hours driving through the night from
(14:18):
eastern North Dakota to Williston to spend time with you know,
his folks. And then after his dad passed, So tough
time for Jack. But you know, it's get into your nineties,
it's probably a blessing that you're still around. So well, yeah,
I mean he had had you know, I mean he
went to Hawaii. He took his mom to Hawaii a
couple of years ago to see one of his daughters,
(14:41):
one of his twin daughters. And then so he had
spent a lot of good time, had a lot of
good experiences with his mom before and after his dad passed.
So tough because he has such a good friend too,
We care so much about him.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt about that. Really, well said anything
else him.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Nope, that's good. It ended on that note in their
best to Jack. Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
And you mentioned how many times he would drive out
to Williston and then have a game coming up and
he'd be a thirty six hour trip for carrot cake with.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Mom and basically, you know, we'd get in at two
in the morning. Yeah, and you know, I'm going down
Gateway to go home and go to bed. He's going
the other way on Highway to Williston. Yeah you kidding me? Yeah, Yeah,
that's that's the way he's been. And yeah, he's been
a road warrior. But you know, for his family, for
(15:36):
all of us, you know, we feel that way about
our families. But yeah, very very tough to see it happen,
and that he was on the road in Wisconsin when
she passed to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah, no doubt all our thoughts with him. Thanks coach,
have a good week ahead.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, Okay, guys, thanks.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, there we go. Mike Berg, color analysts of North
to Go to Football on the Fighting Hawks Radio Network,
along with Jack Michaels and myself and others making up
the crew, are a big thanks for him jumping in
with us here on this Tuesday morning
Morning. Here we are again, Here we are again.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yes, what do you think of your Dodgers getting swept
by the Angels.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm glad they had a lead in the West. I
watched only one of them. It's probably a little frustrating,
but no reason to panic because the end of the
day there's still the Dodgers and the other team is
still the Angels.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Wow, that's a shot. You don't take many, but that
is definitely one of the few that I've heard you take, however,
disguised and passively at the Crosstown Angels, that I've ever heard.
That's pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I did see the one. Was it when the Dodgers
were scored nineteen runs? And I can't remember who they
were playing, but they had a position player pitch and
he struck out.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh John, I think it was the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Was it the A's Yeah, I think so, yeah, And
he well he's struck out on Tani. But then he
wanted to keep the ball.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Sure, Well, wouldn't you, absolutely absolutely, But I you know,
baseball wise, I'm most excited about our twins. They bought that.
I mean, I know, well, they're ahead in this rain
shortened game, but they went on quite a run there
to get themselves well over five hundred and back in
the race.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Hey have a I have a question. The twins obviously awesome.
Somebody asked me this the other day, and I didn't
really know what to say, because I guess I'll have
to go up to coach Minton ask this one, because
I get it. It's a I had not even thought
in these terms. So somebody asked me. They said, well,
I've been following on social media on the Twitter or
(01:53):
x or whatever and seeing this guy committed or this
young person committed incoming. So these guys are still high
school junior is going to be seniors or whatever. Many
of them are committeing and verballying and stuff like that.
And somebody said, you know, it used to be you know,
your incoming recruiting class would be twenty or twenty twenty four,
(02:16):
twenty five, twenty six. Guys are more teams now because
of the portal going to have recruiting class that you
announced there in December or whatever it is on that
recruiting signing day. Is that going to continue to get
smaller and smaller for teams like you, indeed, to leave
more room for portal type players and I said, I
(02:37):
don't that's a good question. I don't know what the
answer is there.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You know, I personally I don't have any inside information,
but it seems to me, well, the way things are
going now, you first of all, you need to recruit
your own players at the end of every season, right
and you don't know how many you're going to be
able to retain. And so that is a change. A
(03:03):
commitment right now from a high school junior who has
yet to play his senior year. There's nothing firm about that.
It's you have a verbal commitment from both sides. We'd
like to have you, okay, I'm coming to you, guys.
And then they go out and have a great senior year,
and all of a sudden, some FBS school is recruiting
(03:26):
them and offering them all of a sudden, that commitment
is a little less valid. So curious, Yeah, that's curious.
Obviously they make schools make more offers than they have
scholarships available, right, pretty well known they make more offers.
If everybody accepted the offer, they'd have to tell some
(03:49):
oh my bad, we didn't mean it, never mind, because
it couldn't They couldn't provide all those scholarships. At the
same time, everybody who makes a commitment isn't necessarily firm either,
So it's a whole new world out there, Paul.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
So yeah, the question is, you know, I think they're
looking at it from the math perspective, which I completely get.
You know, like, if you have twenty five incoming that
have never played college football before, and that now puts
your roster at a certain limit basically, and that doesn't
give you a lot of room to play with the
portal because in December, you sign twenty six guys or
(04:24):
twenty seventy, and you expect them all to be here
in August, because now they're signed, they're on the dotted
line at that point. Now, as you mentioned, you re
recruit your own roster that you currently have. They're in
January and February. But now with the numbers, you're saying, boy,
we only have room for one portal. That so I
get what that that person was saying, And you know
(04:46):
what I was looking at it. I was like, boy,
you make a point, because I that's an interesting game
now that coaching staffs have to play.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I understood. And you look at your immediate needs and
you go into the portal and get commitments from guys
in the portal. That cuts down your freshmen obviously. Uh.
And you have your your roster limit right now at
you India. I think it's one oh five, yeah, five
or one oh six. So you need a commitment first
(05:17):
from the guys that are currently on the roster. And
at the end of spring practice, some of the guys
that were that we watched in the spring game the
Spring Showcase aren't going to be there in August and
they had to let them go because they are bringing
in X number of freshmen. So yeah, I think it's
a it's a constant shuffling. Yeah. Yeah, and the portal
(05:40):
has thrown another wrench into it because you need to
make room for these guys because they're going to bring
you immediate help. You don't expect incoming freshmen to play.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, And I was going to is that is that
basically hurting high school seniors in their signing days. There's
less opportunities then basically for them to sign.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yes. Yes, the portal didn't do high school as any favor.
All of a sudden, kids that would have been recruited
understanding that they were going to sit for a year.
Maybe two are getting bypassed and a portal kid comes in,
and even kids on the roster are getting kept down
on the depth chart or not brought back because all
(06:21):
of a sudden they bring a portal kid in and
he transfers from you know, you name your FBS school.
He's supposedly better because he came from FBS, even though
there's a reason he's leaving that school. Is he not
able to play there? If he's playing at the other place,
he's not leaving. Yeah, he's leaving to play. Well, something
(06:42):
has to give if he's coming to your place to play,
and then who was going to play isn't going to
And there are fewer opportunities for high school kids, I believe.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, Tim, go ahead, Yeah that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Would you, Mike, in the way the sports world is now,
would you want to be coaching in college?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You know? I think they're all kind of learning as
they go how it has changed. I've asked that very
question to a guy that we all know is Roger Thomas. Yeah,
we've talked about it, and Rogers said, no, I wouldn't
touch it. Yeah, you know, I mean, if you if
you have been there and you're now retired and out
(07:25):
of it. It was tough enough in your day. Well,
now you look at it, and you know, how do
you how do you compete? When you recruit a kid,
you do all the diligent work to offer him, You
expect him to come in and all of a sudden,
somebody on a different level starts throwing big amounts of
(07:46):
money at him. Do you blame the kid for taking
the money? Do you blame that school for it? Used
to be there used to be kind of a gentleman's agreement.
If a kid commits to so and so school, the
rest of us are going to leave him alone. Well,
if he committed to that school, I don't think that
exists anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, forget about the incoming. It's more about you recruit
that guy and that kid, and you spend all that time,
and then he spends two to three years with you,
and now he's just becoming perhaps an all conference player,
and that's when the big school comes in, and that's
when it hurts even worse, it's less. I mean, it
hurts when it's an incoming freshman, there's no doubt about it.
(08:26):
But that's a lot. As you mentioned, not too many
freshmen are expected to play It's about the sweat and
equity that you put into him to build him for
the first two or three years. Now he's a second
team All Conference. Now he's a first team All Conference
as an emerging junior, and all of a sudden, boom,
big ten sec.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, I'll tell you something else we probably don't think
about coaches, do If you had a kid on your
team and you knew he was going to be there,
you might be ready to get on him a little
bit harder if he's not doing his job. All of
a sudden, you say to yourself, wait a second, I
(09:03):
start chewing this kid, I start making life difficult for
this kid because he's not doing what's expected, He's going
to leave. So do I now back off?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Or am I just as you know? Am I just
as structure? Do I have just a hive expectations? Am
I not afraid of getting into his face? Whether it's
a practice or meetings or some disciplinary thing. Do we
overlook some things so that he doesn't leave? Because if
I make him mad, if I upset him, he's going
to leave. And geez, I don't want to be a
(09:35):
nut spot. If I'm a coach and I've got a
kid that's not meeting our expectations. I want to put
my butt, my foot firmly up his butt. And I
think some coaches are aware if they do that, that
guy's out and guy's gone, and somebody will recruit him,
somebody will want him. Yeah, yeah, you would hope you
(09:55):
do it different.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You would hope you do your due diligence and get
him in the first place, that he wouldn't be that guy, right.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
But can I go back again to why is he
in the portal? Did his previous coach say enough for
this guy, we don't want him around our appy, he's leaving.
How do you know that I will?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I will share right with you that I have heard
this phrased a lot around the college basketball world that I,
you know, spend twenty four hours a day with basically
for a certain segment of the year, and over the
last five to six years, I've heard the phrase from
the student athlete that's there at the time. I'm not
(10:40):
naming names, but it's more than one. It's in fact several.
I want to be coached hard. That's why I came here.
I want to be coached hard. And when they start
getting coached hard, guess what they're doing. They're out, they
are checking out. You can see in their eyes they're
complaining and winding to their friends. Why is he being
so tough on me? And stuff like that. So when
(11:01):
they actually do get coach hard, they say one thing.
They want to be coached hard. They've been telling that
during their recruitment. They tell that to me when I'm
asking them questions. I'm so excited, I'm going to be
coach really tough here, get the best out of me.
And then when it happens, guess what. Looking for the
out immediately. It's incredible to me.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Very very common story. And I think you hit the
nail on the head there with I want to be
coached hard. That sounds good man. I am a warrior.
Let's go to work.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh wait a second, see that does that mean I'm
going to have to earn my spot or car Well,
I don't know if I want to be coach that hard.
And honestly, we were talking football. It's a lot harder
to determine if a kid's a football player. You have
one hundred and some guys in basketball. It's right there
on the court. You can see it. There's a dozen
(11:52):
guys or fifteen guys, there's nowhere to hide. Football, you
can kind of work your way to the back of
the line and hang around and nobody really knows except
the coaches looking at the film. But in basketball, man,
there's nowhere to hide, and only so many are getting
on the court.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, it's been shocking to me how many times I've
been told that phrase or something similar to it, that
that happens, and I just I kind of just chuckle
now anytime I hear that, because I'm like, Okay, I
guess we'll see because when it actually happens, and I'm
not talking, nobody's calling your mom anything or but they're
calling about out you about doing your job and what
(12:33):
you've been coached to do through the summer and things
like that. They're asking you like, hey, we need you
to dial in now. And if that's getting coached hard,
then you know, I guess, and you're having a problem
with that. It's crazy to me, but I've seen it
way too many times. One last thing, coach and I
kind of hogged this conversation. Sorry, Tim Jack Michaels, who
(12:56):
we work with, who is our colleague and friend. You know,
he was off on a road trip so often his
mother Marge is listening to our football broadcast, to Red
Hawk's broadcast. Mother Marge of Jack Michaels passed away. Over
the last several days, I've reached out via text messager.
Jack had a brief conversation that way. I know there's
a lot of things where our thoughts are with Jack
(13:18):
and the passing of his mother, who is near and
dear to him, who is a bedrock of their family
for so many years, their biggest proponents of him and
his siblings. So thoughts to Jack Michaels basically with the
passing of his mom.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Well, we've been I've been in touch with Jack a
couple of times, and then we will touch base again
on this. But the story of him, if you if
you've listened to him call baseball and you know his
home run call, yes, sure you know, track down Marge.
That has real significance. And it's a sad deal that
(13:54):
his mom passed. He was ninety two years old, I believe,
and his dad passed a very short time ago as
well well. Right, and and Jack has never been shy
about talking how special, about how special his family was,
his parents, and you know, his siblings, and so yeah,
it's very very sad to see a family guy like that.
And he spent many hours driving through the night from
(14:18):
eastern North Dakota to Williston to spend time with you know,
his folks. And then after his dad passed, So tough
time for Jack. But you know, it's get into your nineties,
it's probably a blessing that you're still around. So well, yeah,
I mean he had had you know, I mean he
went to Hawaii. He took his mom to Hawaii a
couple of years ago to see one of his daughters,
(14:41):
one of his twin daughters. And then so he had
spent a lot of good time, had a lot of
good experiences with his mom before and after his dad passed.
So tough because he has such a good friend too,
We care so much about him.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt about that. Really, well said anything
else him.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Nope, that's good. It ended on that note in their
best to Jack. Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
And you mentioned how many times he would drive out
to Williston and then have a game coming up and
he'd be a thirty six hour trip for carrot cake with.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Mom and basically, you know, we'd get in at two
in the morning. Yeah, and you know, I'm going down
Gateway to go home and go to bed. He's going
the other way on Highway to Williston. Yeah you kidding me? Yeah, Yeah,
that's that's the way he's been. And yeah, he's been
a road warrior. But you know, for his family, for
(15:36):
all of us, you know, we feel that way about
our families. But yeah, very very tough to see it happen,
and that he was on the road in Wisconsin when
she passed to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah, no doubt all our thoughts with him. Thanks coach,
have a good week ahead.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, Okay, guys, thanks.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, there we go. Mike Berg, color analysts of North
to Go to Football on the Fighting Hawks Radio Network,
along with Jack Michaels and myself and others making up
the crew, are a big thanks for him jumping in
with us here on this Tuesday morning
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