June 13, 2025 • 15 mins
Grand Forks Herald Sports Editor Tom Miller, has been tracking UND's journey with the House Settlement and delivers the latest details with Tim and Paul.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Seven thirty seven on a Friday morning, on Friday of
the thirteenth, as we link up with Tom Miller, the
sports editor of the Grand Forks Herald.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Morning, Tom, Good morning, gentlemen. Good to chat with you here.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good to chat with you as well, Tom. And this
is kind of the weird area of sports for us. However,
there's a couple of things we can at least dive
into here today. The first is since we last talked,
I think it was last Friday evening, a week to
the day that the house settlement actually happened. And then
(00:39):
from if people aren't aware, then many school administrators were
at a national conference where they all met and were
listening and trying to ask questions about, hey, can we
get a little more information of what exactly the rules
or the parameters are. And I think if you've been
on top of this story as well, the latest in
(01:02):
regards to that, because you've written about und maybe changing
its making it a change in its outlook basically whether
to opt in or out from its original outlook. But
that's because it not so much about the revenue sharing piece.
It's more about roster sizes and those types of things,
and that may change whether or not they opt in,
(01:22):
but they also need more information. So there's many sides
continuing with this story.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, one unred percent. You know, once once I've kind
of heard, you know, some of the guardrails to the
house settlement and how there was going to be a
grandfather and in effect of roster sizes where a university
like North Dakota wasn't going to immediately have to act
you know, upwards to maybe thirty kids if you start
(01:51):
balancing out Title nine. That was a hold up. And
you know, the the undi stance from the jump was, hey,
in year one, we don't have enough information. There's not
enough positive to come from this. We're gonna sit out
year one. Well, once once the final settlement came down,
(02:11):
they talked about grandfather and robster sizes. Then then it
became a you know something where at the Herald was
kind of thinking, okay, well if that was the reasoning
before we got to circle back and and you know,
see what U and D has to say. You know,
maybe there's a different reason, you know or whatever. So
reached out to you and D and Bill shaves. Bill
(02:34):
was nice enough to get back to me right right
immediately before he boarded a plane in Orlando to come
back right and talk to me a little bit about
how they're really basically unless they're something unforeseen pops up
here this month that that you and D will likely,
just as the other Dakota schools likely, I imagine, will
(02:57):
opt in in year one now, and you and D
has until June thirtieth to hit the launch button.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Officially, yeah, because I believe that it was going to
be June fifteenth. But even though the House settlement had
come down the pipeline, and you know, maybe for schools
like un D, n DSUSDSU, it wasn't so much about
the revenue sharing piece because they're never gonna get over
the cap, you know, like that like other schools may
(03:23):
threaten it. Their question is, okay, how does the grandfathering
and the rosters work? Essentially, like how does this all
come together? Their questions were more nuanced probably to that.
And then in regards to that, do you see kind
of similar perspectives from the I twenty nine Dakota schools
Because I you know, as much as they look out
(03:44):
for themselves and they have to, they also probably want
to at least maybe be unified in some aspects and
maybe try to be similar to one another in their
approach to this new era of college sports.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, it's my understanding that all the Code of schools
are in a similar voat here and looking at implementing
sooner rather than later, you know, and the devil be
in the details.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I feel like there's you know, as we spoke before
about how opting in and opting out in some regards
was about optics and not substance. I'll be very curious
now to see this substance. You know, if all four
Dakota schools are opting in, that's great. How close to
one hundred and five football scholarships are you going to offer?
(04:30):
Is North Kota going to offer one more than they
are right now? You know what if North Kota State
offers ten more, in Montana State going to try to
go fifteen more than they're offering now. So I think
that's going to be the really interesting piece now is okay,
let's move beyond opting in. What what does revenue sharing mean?
And how much revenue is there going to be to share?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, that's a great question because it could be zero,
or it could be twenty point five million, or it
could be somewhere in between. It could be one hundred
thousand dollars, could be a million dollars, could be five
million dollars. Everybody's revenue to share it could be way
different than the next person's.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And let's remember too, they're like, you know, as we've
talked about this, there could be some schools that opt
in to save money, right, you know, because you're gonna
have to make some slices on the Olympic sports side
of things and balance them in Title nine. And when
we say revenue sharing again, yeah, the big schools are
sharing a twenty million, but who knows what they're going
(05:30):
to be sharing at this level. And that's what's going
to be sorted out, and that's going to be super interesting.
And I don't know if we're going to truly know,
you know, will will that be public record? Will that
be an open record? I'm not sure that that's gonna
be interesting to me.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
I've blocked out Tim here a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Sorry, Tim, go ahead if you anything in regards to
this crazy conversation. I just I will add in regards
to this, there's a couple of stories and maybe you
have maybe you've tracked on some of them. Maybe you
haven't if you think that this revenue isn't is sharing
maybe scary for schools of our size or even smaller
(06:11):
and what it could mean. It's even getting the attention
of places like Michigan. I told Tim the story earlier
this week where the University of Michigan's making maybe some
in house athletic department cuts reduction of staff. I think
Kansas has done the same in regards to dealing with
the whole piece of and slicing up the pie. So
(06:33):
they're you know, there's there people that do things within
that department are maybe being phased out because they have
to share the revenue elsewhere, and so those people may
be looking for not just the athletes.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
This is affecting departments, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Absolutely, because you're going to see people looking to save
money in all sorts of different kinds of ways. Because
you know, one thing I noticed University Nebraska looks like
they're gonna try to host concerts at their football field.
Are you know, everybody's looking for interesting ways to to
add to revenue.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
In this new setup of budgets and sports like track
and field, like you know those sports that you that
a lot of universities were kind of adding all these
walk on kids and and you know, and then you
start talking about enrollment, you know, who's willing who's willing
to cut certain things because you're also going to start
(07:28):
cutting some paying customers that are very vital to your
enrollment in your school at large.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, that's a that's a good point too, because yeah,
these the many of these student athletes that may not
have a place eventually, even if it's grandfathered for now.
For for many of them, they've been painful tuition and
board and all that stuff. They've been paying customers and
students and and what do you know that will have
an effect to bottom lines as well. So, uh, it's
(07:57):
only just begun. The last thing I'll point out to
on a different point of this, because there's some sort
of oversight in NIL beyond the NCAA. Now, it's like
the c SC or whatever it is, the College Sport Commission,
where they they go through and say if an NIL
deal is good or bad, if it's over six hundred
(08:18):
dollars or more, they are the ones that give the
thumbs up or the thumbs down. I just read something
in the Athletic that came out the other day that said, okay,
now with that whole idea, Now is the return of
the beg man coming back just like the old days,
just what we just have been doing for years and
years because many athletes and many boosters won't want to
(08:40):
go through the CSC, so they'll just say, here's your
McDonald's brown bag of money, and they'll just do it
the old fashioned way.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's what's left to be determined too, right Like, sure,
now you've posted some speed limits signs. Are you going
to put me? Are you going to put the patrolmen
out on the roads? You know? I think the yeah,
I think the enforcement piece has everybody curious. I have
a hard time believing that. You know, they talk about
(09:08):
these front loaded nil deals before revenue sharing you know,
walked into place, you know, at the highest level, if
you're an arch manning of the world, how far back
are we going to reel that back in? You know,
I feel like some extent, you know, the toothpaste is
out of the tube here. Uh, you know, it's it's
(09:29):
it's maybe a fun theory to think that revenue sharing
is gonna reel some of that in, But I think
a lot of realists have their doubts.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, okay, don't right, Tim, take us in a different direction.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I was just going to ask though, but the whatever
you call that group talking about the nils, who are
they to make saying in eyes getting too much or
he's not getting enough for I mean, who gave them
that kind of power? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Who's who's set in the market? And you know is
is that are the figures that are thrown out there?
How accurate are they? And are they inflated because an
agent wants them to be inflated? I think, you know,
some of that is some natural business stuff that is
outside my realm of expertise. But you know, I I
just have a hard time believing that we're gonna you know,
(10:26):
normalize I don't know if normalized is a good word,
but if we're gonna reel these contracts back in, you know,
that goes back to the bag man that Paul's talking about.
You know, Uh, I don't know, and I don't I
don't think there's gonna be a lot of good faith
efforts to uh to make sure that NIL deals are
(10:47):
you know, honest agreement on the up.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Hey, Okay, on another note here, Tom, you and we
talk about non revenue sports track and field. You Indie
track and field two All Americans, the first team All
American and hammer thrower Kenneck Korea. Interesting in South Dakota
native who made it to und where her parents said
background at South Dakota State and here she is. She's
(11:12):
an All American in the hammer throw at the NCAA outdoors.
And then Jade and Keeler, the Canadian distance runner. You know,
talk about U and D having an unbelievable week at
least from a standpoint of having an unbelievable national championships,
so that the two individuals they send there getting All
(11:32):
American status. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, absolutely, Having two All Americans like that is you know,
pretty rare for North Dakota here in the D one era.
And I thought it was interesting. In the hammer throw,
Grand Forks is Shelby Frank, who's now a Texas Tech
after transferring from the University of Minnesota, took second to
the hammer throw.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yes, yes, two Grand.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Forks connected kids in the top eight of the nationals
that uh in Oregon there, that's that's pretty impressive. And
then Frank will throw, She'll throw the discus on.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Saturday here and and she probably will have a great
chance in that because I think if anything she might
be that might be her specialty as the discus. Actually, yeah,
so you know, actually the niece of Mitch Wigness. We
should say that most people will.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Know it's important, very important.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Okay, Tim, I'm gonna give you the last anything you're
gonna direct Tom towards the close up of conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
No, I'm just tell me about the Legion baseball teams.
What are they? What can we expect from? Uh? And
there is a Blues team, right.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yes, there is a Blues team. A stop box score
the other day we ran in the in the heralds.
So the Blues are coached by Grant Larson. And then, uh,
the Royals here look like they're off to a tough start.
They've had some injury problems. Matt dash is one of
their better pitchers, and he he's got some arm troubles.
That's gonna allow him to the only bat this summer,
(13:01):
I believe. So they've they're working through some things. They
did get Braden Brevick back, a graduated senior, a kid
who's you know, kind of taking advantage of that nineteen
year old rule to come back and play and then
East Grand Forks is just kind of getting underway to
play Thompson the other night. They should have a nice
(13:24):
team because you you combine the Green Wave and Sacred
Heart and those two high school baseball teams had a
successful year and both had both had a nice ace
on each staff. So you you get the Ham's kid
from East Grand Forks and the Ericson kid from Sacred Heart.
I think that would probably make a good one too,
although not all the Sacred Heart kids are are playing
(13:45):
East Grand Forks because some of them are Grand Forks kids.
Catcher David Larsen as it catches for the Royals, so
you run into some of that. But I still think
it should be a It should be a really nice
team on the East Side this year. They're they're back.
They don't have a ton of home stuff early in
the year here, but I believe they're they're at home
against Fergus balls here earlier this week. Coming up.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Uh, just so to your own personal thing, was legion
ball one of your favorite things growing up when you
when you played.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah yeah, I mean number one. It was the only
sport that I was even semi relevant at h So
that that made it great. But I mean, what, uh,
what's better than going to the park and you know,
turning on some music and shagging some fly balls with
your buddies. Yeah, that's that that's the dream, you know. Uh,
I think some kids don't quite realize that's the dream
(14:32):
until you know you're you're forty and old like me.
But uh, you know, those those are the days.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, I think what we hear in the background there, uh,
the summer Friday morning with a buzzing, buzzing household already,
now that those are the days.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Basically, those are the days.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They started at five thirty four, this is mid morning,
and okay.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Well, hopefully turn in early enough then, Tom, Hey, Tom,
We're gonna follow all the upcoming stories in future editions
digitally at the Grand Forks Herald dot com and inside
their digital edition. Appreciate you and your team following everything.
We'll continue to follow racing with the coverage of tonight's
action at the River City Speedway.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Tom, thanks for joining us this morning. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, sounds great. Take care guys.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
All right, There goes Tom Miller, sports editor of the
Grand Forks Herald, up early with his crew
Seven thirty seven on a Friday morning, on Friday of
the thirteenth, as we link up with Tom Miller, the
sports editor of the Grand Forks Herald.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Morning, Tom, Good morning, gentlemen. Good to chat with you here.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good to chat with you as well, Tom. And this
is kind of the weird area of sports for us. However,
there's a couple of things we can at least dive
into here today. The first is since we last talked,
I think it was last Friday evening, a week to
the day that the house settlement actually happened. And then
(00:39):
from if people aren't aware, then many school administrators were
at a national conference where they all met and were
listening and trying to ask questions about, hey, can we
get a little more information of what exactly the rules
or the parameters are. And I think if you've been
on top of this story as well, the latest in
(01:02):
regards to that, because you've written about und maybe changing
its making it a change in its outlook basically whether
to opt in or out from its original outlook. But
that's because it not so much about the revenue sharing piece.
It's more about roster sizes and those types of things,
and that may change whether or not they opt in,
(01:22):
but they also need more information. So there's many sides
continuing with this story.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, one unred percent. You know, once once I've kind
of heard, you know, some of the guardrails to the
house settlement and how there was going to be a
grandfather and in effect of roster sizes where a university
like North Dakota wasn't going to immediately have to act
you know, upwards to maybe thirty kids if you start
(01:51):
balancing out Title nine. That was a hold up. And
you know, the the undi stance from the jump was, hey,
in year one, we don't have enough information. There's not
enough positive to come from this. We're gonna sit out
year one. Well, once once the final settlement came down,
(02:11):
they talked about grandfather and robster sizes. Then then it
became a you know something where at the Herald was
kind of thinking, okay, well if that was the reasoning
before we got to circle back and and you know,
see what U and D has to say. You know,
maybe there's a different reason, you know or whatever. So
reached out to you and D and Bill shaves. Bill
(02:34):
was nice enough to get back to me right right
immediately before he boarded a plane in Orlando to come
back right and talk to me a little bit about
how they're really basically unless they're something unforeseen pops up
here this month that that you and D will likely,
just as the other Dakota schools likely, I imagine, will
(02:57):
opt in in year one now, and you and D
has until June thirtieth to hit the launch button.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Officially, yeah, because I believe that it was going to
be June fifteenth. But even though the House settlement had
come down the pipeline, and you know, maybe for schools
like un D, n DSUSDSU, it wasn't so much about
the revenue sharing piece because they're never gonna get over
the cap, you know, like that like other schools may
(03:23):
threaten it. Their question is, okay, how does the grandfathering
and the rosters work? Essentially, like how does this all
come together? Their questions were more nuanced probably to that.
And then in regards to that, do you see kind
of similar perspectives from the I twenty nine Dakota schools
Because I you know, as much as they look out
(03:44):
for themselves and they have to, they also probably want
to at least maybe be unified in some aspects and
maybe try to be similar to one another in their
approach to this new era of college sports.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, it's my understanding that all the Code of schools
are in a similar voat here and looking at implementing
sooner rather than later, you know, and the devil be
in the details.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I feel like there's you know, as we spoke before
about how opting in and opting out in some regards
was about optics and not substance. I'll be very curious
now to see this substance. You know, if all four
Dakota schools are opting in, that's great. How close to
one hundred and five football scholarships are you going to offer?
(04:30):
Is North Kota going to offer one more than they
are right now? You know what if North Kota State
offers ten more, in Montana State going to try to
go fifteen more than they're offering now. So I think
that's going to be the really interesting piece now is okay,
let's move beyond opting in. What what does revenue sharing mean?
And how much revenue is there going to be to share?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, that's a great question because it could be zero,
or it could be twenty point five million, or it
could be somewhere in between. It could be one hundred
thousand dollars, could be a million dollars, could be five
million dollars. Everybody's revenue to share it could be way
different than the next person's.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And let's remember too, they're like, you know, as we've
talked about this, there could be some schools that opt
in to save money, right, you know, because you're gonna
have to make some slices on the Olympic sports side
of things and balance them in Title nine. And when
we say revenue sharing again, yeah, the big schools are
sharing a twenty million, but who knows what they're going
(05:30):
to be sharing at this level. And that's what's going
to be sorted out, and that's going to be super interesting.
And I don't know if we're going to truly know,
you know, will will that be public record? Will that
be an open record? I'm not sure that that's gonna
be interesting to me.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
I've blocked out Tim here a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Sorry, Tim, go ahead if you anything in regards to
this crazy conversation. I just I will add in regards
to this, there's a couple of stories and maybe you
have maybe you've tracked on some of them. Maybe you
haven't if you think that this revenue isn't is sharing
maybe scary for schools of our size or even smaller
(06:11):
and what it could mean. It's even getting the attention
of places like Michigan. I told Tim the story earlier
this week where the University of Michigan's making maybe some
in house athletic department cuts reduction of staff. I think
Kansas has done the same in regards to dealing with
the whole piece of and slicing up the pie. So
(06:33):
they're you know, there's there people that do things within
that department are maybe being phased out because they have
to share the revenue elsewhere, and so those people may
be looking for not just the athletes.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
This is affecting departments, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Absolutely, because you're going to see people looking to save
money in all sorts of different kinds of ways. Because
you know, one thing I noticed University Nebraska looks like
they're gonna try to host concerts at their football field.
Are you know, everybody's looking for interesting ways to to
add to revenue.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
In this new setup of budgets and sports like track
and field, like you know those sports that you that
a lot of universities were kind of adding all these
walk on kids and and you know, and then you
start talking about enrollment, you know, who's willing who's willing
to cut certain things because you're also going to start
(07:28):
cutting some paying customers that are very vital to your
enrollment in your school at large.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, that's a that's a good point too, because yeah,
these the many of these student athletes that may not
have a place eventually, even if it's grandfathered for now.
For for many of them, they've been painful tuition and
board and all that stuff. They've been paying customers and
students and and what do you know that will have
an effect to bottom lines as well. So, uh, it's
(07:57):
only just begun. The last thing I'll point out to
on a different point of this, because there's some sort
of oversight in NIL beyond the NCAA. Now, it's like
the c SC or whatever it is, the College Sport Commission,
where they they go through and say if an NIL
deal is good or bad, if it's over six hundred
(08:18):
dollars or more, they are the ones that give the
thumbs up or the thumbs down. I just read something
in the Athletic that came out the other day that said, okay,
now with that whole idea, Now is the return of
the beg man coming back just like the old days,
just what we just have been doing for years and
years because many athletes and many boosters won't want to
(08:40):
go through the CSC, so they'll just say, here's your
McDonald's brown bag of money, and they'll just do it
the old fashioned way.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's what's left to be determined too, right Like, sure,
now you've posted some speed limits signs. Are you going
to put me? Are you going to put the patrolmen
out on the roads? You know? I think the yeah,
I think the enforcement piece has everybody curious. I have
a hard time believing that. You know, they talk about
(09:08):
these front loaded nil deals before revenue sharing you know,
walked into place, you know, at the highest level, if
you're an arch manning of the world, how far back
are we going to reel that back in? You know,
I feel like some extent, you know, the toothpaste is
out of the tube here. Uh, you know, it's it's
(09:29):
it's maybe a fun theory to think that revenue sharing
is gonna reel some of that in, But I think
a lot of realists have their doubts.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, okay, don't right, Tim, take us in a different direction.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I was just going to ask though, but the whatever
you call that group talking about the nils, who are
they to make saying in eyes getting too much or
he's not getting enough for I mean, who gave them
that kind of power? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Who's who's set in the market? And you know is
is that are the figures that are thrown out there?
How accurate are they? And are they inflated because an
agent wants them to be inflated? I think, you know,
some of that is some natural business stuff that is
outside my realm of expertise. But you know, I I
just have a hard time believing that we're gonna you know,
(10:26):
normalize I don't know if normalized is a good word,
but if we're gonna reel these contracts back in, you know,
that goes back to the bag man that Paul's talking about.
You know, Uh, I don't know, and I don't I
don't think there's gonna be a lot of good faith
efforts to uh to make sure that NIL deals are
(10:47):
you know, honest agreement on the up.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Hey, Okay, on another note here, Tom, you and we
talk about non revenue sports track and field. You Indie
track and field two All Americans, the first team All
American and hammer thrower Kenneck Korea. Interesting in South Dakota
native who made it to und where her parents said
background at South Dakota State and here she is. She's
(11:12):
an All American in the hammer throw at the NCAA outdoors.
And then Jade and Keeler, the Canadian distance runner. You know,
talk about U and D having an unbelievable week at
least from a standpoint of having an unbelievable national championships,
so that the two individuals they send there getting All
(11:32):
American status. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, absolutely, Having two All Americans like that is you know,
pretty rare for North Dakota here in the D one era.
And I thought it was interesting. In the hammer throw,
Grand Forks is Shelby Frank, who's now a Texas Tech
after transferring from the University of Minnesota, took second to
the hammer throw.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yes, yes, two Grand.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Forks connected kids in the top eight of the nationals
that uh in Oregon there, that's that's pretty impressive. And
then Frank will throw, She'll throw the discus on.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Saturday here and and she probably will have a great
chance in that because I think if anything she might
be that might be her specialty as the discus. Actually, yeah,
so you know, actually the niece of Mitch Wigness. We
should say that most people will.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Know it's important, very important.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Okay, Tim, I'm gonna give you the last anything you're
gonna direct Tom towards the close up of conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
No, I'm just tell me about the Legion baseball teams.
What are they? What can we expect from? Uh? And
there is a Blues team, right.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yes, there is a Blues team. A stop box score
the other day we ran in the in the heralds.
So the Blues are coached by Grant Larson. And then, uh,
the Royals here look like they're off to a tough start.
They've had some injury problems. Matt dash is one of
their better pitchers, and he he's got some arm troubles.
That's gonna allow him to the only bat this summer,
(13:01):
I believe. So they've they're working through some things. They
did get Braden Brevick back, a graduated senior, a kid
who's you know, kind of taking advantage of that nineteen
year old rule to come back and play and then
East Grand Forks is just kind of getting underway to
play Thompson the other night. They should have a nice
(13:24):
team because you you combine the Green Wave and Sacred
Heart and those two high school baseball teams had a
successful year and both had both had a nice ace
on each staff. So you you get the Ham's kid
from East Grand Forks and the Ericson kid from Sacred Heart.
I think that would probably make a good one too,
although not all the Sacred Heart kids are are playing
(13:45):
East Grand Forks because some of them are Grand Forks kids.
Catcher David Larsen as it catches for the Royals, so
you run into some of that. But I still think
it should be a It should be a really nice
team on the East Side this year. They're they're back.
They don't have a ton of home stuff early in
the year here, but I believe they're they're at home
against Fergus balls here earlier this week. Coming up.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Uh, just so to your own personal thing, was legion
ball one of your favorite things growing up when you
when you played.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah yeah, I mean number one. It was the only
sport that I was even semi relevant at h So
that that made it great. But I mean, what, uh,
what's better than going to the park and you know,
turning on some music and shagging some fly balls with
your buddies. Yeah, that's that that's the dream, you know. Uh,
I think some kids don't quite realize that's the dream
(14:32):
until you know you're you're forty and old like me.
But uh, you know, those those are the days.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, I think what we hear in the background there, uh,
the summer Friday morning with a buzzing, buzzing household already,
now that those are the days.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Basically, those are the days.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They started at five thirty four, this is mid morning,
and okay.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Well, hopefully turn in early enough then, Tom, Hey, Tom,
We're gonna follow all the upcoming stories in future editions
digitally at the Grand Forks Herald dot com and inside
their digital edition. Appreciate you and your team following everything.
We'll continue to follow racing with the coverage of tonight's
action at the River City Speedway.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Tom, thanks for joining us this morning. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, sounds great. Take care guys.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
All right, There goes Tom Miller, sports editor of the
Grand Forks Herald, up early with his crew
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